WEBVTT - The GREAT Travis Hunter Debate! Fred Smoot's Top 10 DBs | Ticket to the Draft | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 On today's episode of Take of the Draft podcast, Fred 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.119 smoot is our special guest. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.760 At list top Cup of Special List. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.720 That's right, we're talking safeties, cornerbacks, all the dbs. Fred 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:12.680 gives you what he's looking for when he's watching film. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.560 We talked Travis Hunter wide receiver dB and then number 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.520 Fred's number one defensive back might surprise you. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.680 It all starts right now. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:28.200 Welcome Innute Tick of the Draft Podcast. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.520 I'm Logan Paulson here with just the guy Jason, and 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.040 today is a special day because we have the mouth 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.760 of the South, Fred smoot and we're here talking defensive backs. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.159 Before we get into that, make sure you leave a 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.800 comment makes you like him, subscribe. Those comments really help 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.120 us kind of dictate future content. Let us know what 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.920 you like, let us know what you don't like. But 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.040 now that that housekeeping is taken care of. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.880 Fred Smootie, Now he got comedy this time of year. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.360 What do I tell you when I get it to 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.200 my zine? All right, when I get into this this 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.880 draft process, when the computer store what to work and 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.600 still have to compute, I go by smoothy mcshae moody. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:08.760 I want to write that down smoothie mix shade. I 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.960 thought was uh Fred Kuiper. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.840 And you know, the one thing about Kayper is he's 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.880 just like the local weather man. Uh he's wrong most 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:21.240 of the time, and nobody seems to care. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.639 So, uh, Jason, you got anything you want to say? 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.080 What I wanted to say is that Fred is our 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.440 favorite guest on this show because you and him get 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.959 into it about who is the real draft guru for 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.360 a command center, right, Fred definitely thinks it's him. Logan, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.720 You're like, it's clearly men that if anybody listened to 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.640 our podcast last year, we did an episode that we're 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.200 going to do another one this year, but last year's 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.679 it was called Guaranteed Ballers, and each one of you 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.760 drafted six guys that you were like, they're going to 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.760 guarantee ball out this upcoming year. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.720 Well, guess what. The year's over. We saw how they did. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.440 I think not. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.600 Here's what you guys put up on the line, do 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.080 you reader, I don't remember. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.520 Okay, nope, nope. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.840 One of you had to get on a knee and 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:12.079 say to the other you are the true draft guru 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.959 and I personally am nothing and nothing. That's what you 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.120 had to do. So here's what's going to happen. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.320 Guys, I think interrupt, but I think two of my 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:22.280 guys got hurt last year. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.600 They got nothing to do, all right, So here's what 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.000 we're gonna I've already talked to producers of our other shows, 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.040 and this feels like something needs to be. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.359 Yes. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.520 So one our Command Center, the one right before the draft. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.560 Reveal the results right before right. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.720 It will be on that show. The commandser at least 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.040 releases right before the drift April or something or another. Right, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.760 we will reveal it live on Command Center, and we 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:57.400 will have either Fred or Logan getting down on one 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:02.040 knee bring and they're saying you, so, I'm not going 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.720 to tell you the results yet. I find out why. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.800 So everybody needs a tune into that, and we're gonna 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.919 do that. We're going to do this again too. Fred 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.120 you already said he'll come back on for one of 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.320 our next pots. We'll do guarantee draft ballers for the 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.840 next year, and we'll have to find another penalty for 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.400 getting that wrong this time. But I already know the results. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.400 I'm super exer I'm telling you, I'm so excited. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.200 It's okay, So let's get it. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.320 I'm gonna get out of here because I don't know 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.480 anything at all, being just a guy about DB's and 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.840 we have one of the best to ever put on 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.360 the Burgundy and gold at dB here with us, Fred Smoot. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.320 So he's going to break it down with you, Logan 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.520 the draft guru, Right. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.880 No, at least for the time being super conflict. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.040 Myself the draft guru. He's the draft professor. Gotcha, Yeah, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.280 draft that's a great take it away. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.120 Okay, so let's see, let's get into defensive backs and 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.920 so let's just super high level friend. Yeah, what are 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.040 some things We're going to talk about some definitions here 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.800 in a second, but let's start trades. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.880 You're looking for a DV just super high light rights. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.560 First of all, I'm looking for high football IQ. Everybody 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.160 wants to go first into the athletic ability. You wouldn't 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.280 You wouldn't be here if you want athlete, all right, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.159 I'm looking for a high IQ. That means can I 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.560 play all coverages? Can I make my plays within the coverage? 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.520 And can I manipulate players to do what I want 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:26.080 them to do? 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:26.560 Right? 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.400 So I'm looking for guys that then played a lot 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.360 of downs a lot of snaps. Hopefully guys thatn't line 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.200 up left right inside outside show me some versatility. So 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.799 I'm also looking for length. I love length, and sometimes 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.000 length come in different ways. Sometimes you can get a 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.279 fivelem dude with a six three wingspan, and that length 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.719 proves itself through un length and reach. I just think 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.200 this get out of trouble ability right there. It gives 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.440 you the ability when you do make a bad decision, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:55.880 It helps you get out. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.239 Of trouble having that length. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.719 And to me, it stops the number one route that 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.280 people like to go, and it's to go route. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:03.599 You've got long ums. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.680 It kind of prohibits people from running go routes on you. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.560 So I also love lint. I also love. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.120 Quick twitch and sticky people. And the quick twitch is 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.600 the ability to go from zero to one hundred. It's 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.039 like driving a corvette. You want to know what the 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.920 corvette does in the ten to twenty and thirty seconds, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.720 all right, And I want guy that can move in 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.840 a box, so that means quicker than fat sometime, because 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.800 I think your plays are going to be made in 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.520 a box than it is in a hundred year a 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:32.560 field most of the time. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.680 Yeah, So let's talk about a couple things. Let's double 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.720 click on it real quick. So, like the high football 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.440 like Q one, I think is really really interesting because 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.600 it's something that's incredibly important for corner, probably more so 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.920 than maybe linebacker maybe is more important, but it's incredibly 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.000 important for defensive back. On when you're watching film, how 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.920 do you determine whether someone's got good football? Like, I 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:53.720 know you mentioned that line up in multiple spots. I 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.200 think that's a good way. Is there anything else you're 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:55.560 looking for? 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:55.880 Well? 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.960 To see them play route combinations? Anticipation. That's telling me. One, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.479 you study because you don't jump routes that you haven't 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.160 studied like two. This telling me you taking what you 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.120 studied on film and you're taking it to the field. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.600 So not only are your study of but you trust 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.480 what you study and you also trust what you see. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.080 If you line up through yours outside the numbers and 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.080 the slot guys right there out in the numbers, he's 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.120 gonna take me outside. Once I see the slot guy 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.440 go out, I mean go outside, I'm going inside regardless. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.240 Yeah, this is the route combination. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.720 It's so interesting looking at your description of you're listening 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.599 to your description of what you're looking for. Then looking 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.599 at your list, and I'm like, all the guys on 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.360 your list really fit your vision, fits your ranking at 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.360 a high level. So I really can't wait to talk 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.400 about that. So let's talk about a couple term like definition, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.440 clarification things. So for me with a DV, let's just 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.160 get out of the way. I also look for length. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.279 I look for kind of awareness. I look for like 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.840 a competitive toughness. I probably value that more than you. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.840 I would say, no, no, I love a competitor. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.320 Like the one thing about being a competitive what it 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.080 does is it's telling me, no matter what happens in 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.000 this game, good bad in between, you're gonna keep competing 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.440 and you have to be that way because you're gonna 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.160 get burned in the NFL. So competitor goes very high 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.359 on my list cause this mentality that's part of the 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.440 coneback's mentality. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:11.880 I got to have that, but go I got to 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:12.560 have a dog. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:12.960 Yeah. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.840 And I also look and I also and we friend 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.160 and I have talked about this before, and this is 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.000 one area where we I don't think we differ on 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.480 but I probably value it more than you. Is I 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.160 need to see like a physical courage I need to 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.240 see a guy who's willing to tackle put his face 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.400 in there. Just that to me, because like, ultimately, football 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.040 is a physical game. Yeah, and you got to show 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:29.600 me you can do it. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:30.400 So that's one thing. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.760 That's one thing that I, again, I value pretty heavily. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.640 So those are some things that I'm looking at. I 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.000 agree with Fred. The situational awareness stuff is so important 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.239 for corner. Yeah, you just got to be smart down. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.960 It's where we on the field, fifty yard line. It's 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.160 time for them to throw go routes. Just knowing that 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.040 the small stuff that you should know automatically. If it's 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.720 three by one and I'm on the back side, I'm 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:52.720 probably gonna get attacked. 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.360 Like just understanding the game awareness. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:55.440 Yeah, no one. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.040 So Okay, that's kind of high level stuff and I 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.000 think that's all really good. And there's something all subjective 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.680 about all these things and that's why the drafts so hard. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.560 But let's talk about these terms. Are you're familiar? 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.240 So one of the terms that I hear thrown around 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.960 a lot, and Fred mentioned it with the short area 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.080 quickness stuff, which is also very important, is the clicking 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:11.760 closed stuff. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.440 You hear that term all the time. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.320 You're listening to any draft analyst talk about TV there 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.880 like he's got great clicking clothes, Yes, Fred, Yes, what 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:19.600 is that? 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.280 That's seeing it and going getting it? 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.560 Like, if you want me to put it in lameish terms, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.800 he closes to the ball and he takes the air 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.480 out of it. He understands angles. I see most people 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.960 they can see something, but they take the wrong angle 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.679 to go make the play like they having the ability 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.440 to close is one thing is being quick. Two things 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.320 is believing what you see. Three things is going getting it. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.520 And this has got to be tenth of a second. Now, 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.160 this is not a two second thing. Like you have 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.400 to close this gap very quickly, and some guys are 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.560 better at it than other guys. This is what I 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.480 love about a guy like Will Johnson in this group, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.199 you're talking about clicking and closing. This guy right here, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.319 and that's why I got him as the best he 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.240 be in his class. I know they gonna shine a 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.200 lot of people, but I'm sorry he is. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.640 And we're definitely going to talk about that more in detail. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.439 And you know, again who's my number one and where 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.000 the rest of the list falls. But I also think 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.600 clicking clothes to me is like when I see that, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.679 there's that there's the recognition, there's the mental element of it, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.880 but there's also the physical element where you see the footwork. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.840 Is the footwork tight? Are they getting kind of off balance? 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.800 Another guy really high on this list for both of us, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:24.719 that is a little bit all over the place with 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.679 the footwork, right, Can that get cleaned up? Because at 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.560 the NFL level, those missteps, those. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.000 Gotta be like you gotta be very feeline like in 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.360 the feelane always laying on his feet. And one thing 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.760 about it is the quick twitch and it are you 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.480 taking a t step? 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:42.480 Like? What how are you getting there? 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:43.160 Are you balance? 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.400 As a defensive beat coach, I can clean up you, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.599 I can make you a technician, but I got to 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:49.520 have something to work with. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:49.840 Sure. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.960 I think that's a great that's a great differentiator there, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.760 all right. The other one that if people say all 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.880 the time is he's sticky in coverage. Now this can 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.400 me in my opinion, be a bad thing. It can 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:00.959 be a good thing. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.160 Now that's a different between me and sticky and handsy. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.920 Yes, yes, they are two different things. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:11.160 Sticky mean you're never floating, You're never too far away 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.680 from your guy. No matter what route he runs, Like 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.720 if he's running that post, I'm right here on his 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.000 back hip he's running that dig route. Because we got 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.320 a couple of guys in this draft that they play 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.200 over and under routs better than any corners I've seen 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.480 in a couple of years, Like listens Reveale Junior does 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:28.800 that at a high level. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.560 So we're gonna talk about I'm chopping. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:34.960 They got me going because the more and more I 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.240 started to study this group, I was like, my god, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.679 it's something literally game changes. Then I start to write down, Mike, 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.520 who I'm comparing them to, because I think everybody got 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.079 a little bit of somebody we have seen already. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:47.719 And I just I looked at it. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.520 I like, I can't keep writing these bowlers, Like why 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.880 am I keep saying Pro Bowl? 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.079 And then I said, maybe in this group is a 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.680 group that has these type guys. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.960 No, I think that's that's one hundred percent right. So sticky, proximity, handsy. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.520 The thing about all these college and bess are all 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.120 a little bit handsy. And so what I remember that 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.360 is there's no illegal contact downfield. Yeah, right, so they 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.240 tend to be a little bit more pully, a little 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.680 bit more gravvy. There's a guy that is very high 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.600 on my list that I almost didn't put there because 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.160 he's so handsy. But I think that's something like I'm 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:20.920 hoping that that they can get cleaned up at the 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:21.400 next level. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.719 Yeah, and that's where the coaching comes in. That's where 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.880 the coaching comes in at and the veterance that's on 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.120 the team, because you learn a lot from the veterans. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.320 Like everybody won't have a treasure trove of knowledge like 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.080 I had with Dion sanders Dale Green and Champ Bailey. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.040 I basically walked into DBU. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:41.080 Yeah all right. And then the last one, which I 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.839 think is very important but not as important as people 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.640 think it is, is closing speed. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.960 Well, you only need closing speed when you're getting yourself 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.679 in trouble, when you're technically not there early. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.480 Like they always say, either dB, you're gonna win early? 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:56.480 Are you gonna win late? 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.240 You only need to strove closing speed when you when 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.120 you then lost. All right, closing speed comes when you 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.360 recognize when recognition kicks in and I got to go 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.520 get this out route like he go to different between college. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.400 You could be you could be just better than somebody 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.600 where I can break up this slant route, and then 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.680 in the league you learn I have to tackle this 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.839 slant route right, So it's a different because of the 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.200 aptalytic ability of the guys on the other side. So 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.079 these are the small thing that you learn from closing speed. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.840 Closing speed is the ability to get out of trouble. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.160 Yeah, I like it, and they think about it like 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.920 closing to make the tackle or closing on a slant 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:36.680 or you're in off coverage and you got to rally 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.360 to a hitch like that's kind of what we're talking about. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.240 So now I think the moment we've all been waiting 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.079 for is this top ten quarterbacks list, And so we're 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.200 gonna do is We're gonna stop start at ten, go 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:47.720 to one. We've got a couple of names that are 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.360 floating around that are a little bit different, so we're excited. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.120 I guess, Fred, why don't you give me your ten 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.280 to ten to eight and then I'll give you my 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:57.280 ten day we can talk about it. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.440 We're going to start with Trey Amos from O Me reason. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.240 You know, I don't like too much from Old Miseries, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.120 but they do JJ Pergeze, they big Dtac, I do 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.640 like him, but uh, trade is first of all, competitor, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.000 I'm gonna say that. And we talked about being a competitor. Two, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.479 he's played against high notch competition. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:17.960 He's been in a bunch of different schools. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:19.960 Yeah, he's traveled. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:24.320 He understands like when I look at some DB's and 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.679 it's a couple of DB's on my list that if 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.160 you look at them mathematically and chrammatically and how they 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.719 test it, they not test the best. But what they 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.600 do is they what I call a jack of all trades. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.880 They're not grated no one thing, but they're good at 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.719 a lot. And Trey ain't is epitomizes that my flaws 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:47.160 are minimal, but my great things are minimal, if you 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:47.679 know what I mean. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.120 Dude, I kind of feel the same way. So he's 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:51.880 just off my list. So he would have been like 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.440 eleven or twelve for me. And we'll talk about some 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.320 other guys that just didn't quite make it, but he's 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.280 one of them. And he's the guy that I felt 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:03.080 like was was line, like he was like, you know, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.960 he was in the right position. I felt like some 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.480 of his clicking clothes stuff was a little bit sluggish, right, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:08.040 a little bit. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.520 A little bit off balance, right, I didn't feel nothing. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.560 You can clean up though, yes, And. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:13.520 That's why I would defer to you. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.200 Like, that's why I'm watching him, like he's a little 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.080 off bounds, he's a little bit sluggish. His immediate reaction 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.960 isn't there. Yeah, he tracks the ball really well. Yeah, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.040 he sees the ball well. The other thing that bugged 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.600 me about him is like, there wasn't this urgency to 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:26.120 the football. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.040 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.680 He's kind of like a hidden confidence. I get there. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.240 When I get there, I totally understand. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.440 But also he showed me why receiver traits and that's 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.480 what I'd like to see in my BBS because you 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.640 got two type of cornerbacks. You got your cornerbacks that 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.800 used to play running back and you got your cornerbacks 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.040 that used to play wide receiver. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.960 I tend to go with the why receive. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.680 A group because now you think like a wide receiver 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.040 aka Mikey Sanders Steele. I'm a guy that used to 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.240 play wide receiving, so now I'm going to do at 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.000 the cornerback. Was this year's play a more physical brand 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.320 of why I receive? And think about him as a 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.000 a NI Son ultimate. I'm telling you I can put 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.160 two hundred thousand miles on it in dependable. Look for 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.120 him to get drafted to a play a parental playoff 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.680 team like a Pittsburgh stealer, and then he becomes a 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.120 ten year of Pittsburgh stealer. He's that type of guy. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.920 Will he ever make it to All pro status? I'm 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.400 not saying that, but could he be a Pro Bowl 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.400 of one or two years on the team that's winning. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:27.520 I think he could. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.120 Yeah, And I think you know, he's a big guy. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.080 He's about six one. He's like I think he's six 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.920 and three quarters. If I found got long arm, he 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.200 was one of the bigger guys. Ran a four four 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.280 at the COMBA. He's got some juice, man. And again 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.880 like this is not to me. There was just that 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.920 that that lack of urgency always makes me a little 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:45.600 bit nervous. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.160 Who's your ninth guy? 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.240 Fro Exavier Wise now notre dame. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.880 Listen, safety for safety. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.120 For another dame? 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.760 Do you pity me of what we just talked about? 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.520 Good at everything, great at nothing but ball. I Q 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.760 through the roof, I see it through his plane. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.760 He's a fun he's so I'm really glad you put 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.440 him on here. He's a really fun player. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.560 To I've been saying when I watched him, he jumps 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.560 off the screen and when I watched DB's, especially when 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.160 it's safety. Do I ever see you just fly into 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.600 the screen? Do I see you do that on downhill runs? 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.840 Do I see you do that on slint routes? Do 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.040 I see you do that on tight ends? This anticipation, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:28.400 this physicality, that understanding my assignment. This is an assignment based, dude, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.200 This is a coach's dream. Listen, when a coach get 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.800 a guy like Exavier, watch you say here, go to playbook, 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.800 can't wait to see you at practice themorrow, and you 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.600 worry about nothing because you know the interlactor is there 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.720 and you know professionalism. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.080 This is what this guy's about. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.120 So I don't disagree that anything you said. The one. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.280 He's a he's a heck of a ball player, man 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.080 like he gets he's around the football, always balls out, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.560 he's recovering fumbles, he gets interceptions. He's a tough he's 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.000 a he's a very sound, competent tackler, all the things 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.320 you want to see. I think he's better near the 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.200 line of scrimmage in the post. The one thing I 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.119 have on him, the one thing that really kind of 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.119 made me nervous. I think he's a subpar athlete, and 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.040 subpar athletes in the NFL at dB specifically, yeah, tend 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.560