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Speaker 2: Aka Tyler, Hey, everybody on the good Jethro Jenkins aka

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Speaker 1: Mike mother mother, mother, my fucking Mike and Mac mother

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Speaker 3: and uh, all right, man, all right, we've been we've

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Speaker 2: Put up a clip. We put up a clip of.

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Speaker 4: I have been enjoying this because it is also fucking ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Our whole shit was was what the fuck are these

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Speaker 3: are the Chiefs colors. Hey, I'm I'm a professional sportswriter

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Speaker 3: a long time. Those are not the Chiefs colors. Never,

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Speaker 3: There's like twenty something other jerseys, the Yankees one has

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Speaker 3: no one has ever said the Chiefs colors are black

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Speaker 4: Bro, you know, I think this is kind of an

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Speaker 4: exercise in how you have to kind of digestiformation, because,

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Speaker 4: like I said, everyone's jumping on that Facebook page from

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Speaker 4: Facebook page? Like this shit popped up yesterday. There's no

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying like this, I had a Native kid

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Speaker 4: if you got the native headdress and you have a

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Speaker 4: that this kid has warned this that headdress like outside

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Speaker 4: that shit. I'm gonna need to see a little more.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, it could be that really could legitimately

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Speaker 2: What was shocking to me was how dumb everybody was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean, Like they don't even

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Speaker 1: know what racism is the definition of racism to them

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Speaker 1: is calling somebody racist. It's not actually being racist.

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Speaker 2: You feel me.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna sue for what you can sue for anything,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you'll fucking win. What are you gonna sue for?

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Speaker 1: I hope he sues the pants off you. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's see how that works out for you, my nigga.

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Speaker 4: They said motherfuckers, motherfuckers in the mention, saying they're gonna

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Speaker 5: If they're gonna go fund us, go to a motherfucking court. Crazy.

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Speaker 5: I was so stupid. I was so shocked by how

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Speaker 1: And also I'm so shocked about how much I didn't

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Speaker 1: my brother hit me up. He was like, Bro, you're

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Speaker 1: viral again. Are you okay? I said, Bro, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The whole state of Indiana was on

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Speaker 1: my ass. This is just Tuesday, my nigga, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Went back to doing my ship. Another dude,

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Speaker 1: don't line hit me up. I told you all about this.

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Speaker 1: Dude hit me up talking about you said you have

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Speaker 3: Mike, well no, no, no, go ahead. I was just looking

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but another dude, don't line hit me up. Y'a

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Speaker 2: I had to mute that. Nigga.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, bro, don't be scary in the club.

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Speaker 2: Bro, you fear me?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you act like niggas shooting in the club.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Relax, It's just a little racism. We black in America.

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything. Were familiar with racism, my nigga,

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Speaker 2: It's okay, we gonna be all right, damn gee.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just what was shocking was just

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Speaker 2: It was crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's here's my question. And first of all, look,

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Speaker 3: let me say this, man. We didn't say the kids

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Speaker 2: Ry.

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Speaker 3: We laughed at the kid, We laughed at the periodn't

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, cool, you don't think it's funny. I disagree.

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Speaker 3: We laughed about it for a minute and we've been

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Speaker 3: about it for four days now. If you don't think

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Speaker 3: it's racist, here's my question to you. I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium, where I've been. It's

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Speaker 3: an awesome place to see a football game. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at their list of prohibited items. It includes headdresses and

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Speaker 3: face paint styled in a way that references or appropriates

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Speaker 3: in with that. Why is that not because it's racist,

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Speaker 3: not because it's appropriating Native American culture, like because it

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Speaker 3: because it would have blocked someone's view. Is that why

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Speaker 3: they don't If they don't allow specifically they put head

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Speaker 3: dresses on their list of prohibited items, give me a

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Speaker 3: fucking break, bro. And again at Tyler's made this point

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Speaker 1: If that's what the people are smoking, the people, the

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Speaker 3: You got some race baiting brother, Yes, we're gonna photoshop

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Speaker 3: We didn't play his name out there, y'all put the

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Speaker 3: Kid, And I can't believe you'd say this about Cody Matthews,

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Speaker 2: Know, like we would never do that, bro.

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Speaker 3: See any one of you at his pee wee football

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like, like we thought it was ridiculous

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Speaker 4: is interesting, gotcha. These motherfuckers are dumb. Dude, They're dumb.

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Speaker 2: You feel me. But I never I never really anyway.

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Speaker 3: We got a couple other funny things to say about it,

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Speaker 2: It's a humor.

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Speaker 3: No one's again. No one said the kid, We didn't

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Speaker 3: and blackface in twenty twenty three, that's crazy. Tyler made

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Speaker 3: And if it bothers you that much, you're the people

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: It's every it's all a joke. It's like everything's funny

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Speaker 2: It's a It's a.

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Speaker 3: Healthier way to live, I promise you than looking for

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Speaker 1: Half the people won't even hear what you said because

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Speaker 1: like I was Jenkins and Jones. He should be sued. Nigga,

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Speaker 1: Bro, just absolutely crazy. I just every time every time

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Speaker 2: You live a life that's isolated from them, and so

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Speaker 2: do you. For that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, and what about that week ass community?

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Speaker 3: No, let's let's discuss that's the next topic. Guy, here

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Speaker 3: is Jenkins and Jones beat the community.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that could happen.

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Speaker 6: That was my first that could happen.

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Speaker 2: That could happen. Go ahead, talk. I'm just gonna say this.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you have, like did y'all see the tweet with

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Speaker 4: you have Elon Musk championing something as being neutral, as

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Speaker 4: being unbiased, that shit is right leaning as fuck. But like,

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Speaker 4: look at that who that motherfucker is following. He claims

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Speaker 2: Shit, bro, he is not middle of the road. He

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Speaker 4: So if if Elon Musk is championing something as being

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Speaker 4: And you know, like I told y'all in the text message,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's an opinion.

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Speaker 4: That's an assumption, right, like that, that's not unbiased fact

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Speaker 2: Thank you for Big Civilian.

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Speaker 2: And that ran up the numbers and he was standing

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Speaker 2: You ain't gonna fight with a ship breakown. I can't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, but but sincerely, because I was I

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Speaker 3: it really did bother me for what?

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Speaker 2: Really what Tyler said?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, no, it did bother me because

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Speaker 2: Way it could be more racist.

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Speaker 3: So it just like it was one of those moments

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Speaker 4: I didn't think and it felt like such. It felt

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Speaker 4: bottom one that he said he voted for. So the

437
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 4: community note that got posted for us said the child

438
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 4: was not in black face. The other half of the

439
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 4: face was painted reddus can be seen from the photo

440
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 4: found at the following tweet. And you know, the whole

441
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 4: Chiefs colors or black shit and then.

442
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 3: Which they're not, which I just again because it was

443
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 3: making me crazy. They're yes, black is not one of

444
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 3: the Chiefs colors?

445
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: Yes, right, And then and then this is the note

446
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 4: that he voted for that didn't get posted. It's that

447
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 4: that child is wearing half black face and half red face.

448
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 4: His whole painted face and indigenous head piece are very

449
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: racially and culturally inappropriate. It can be offensive to black

450
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 4: African American, Native American and indigenous people. Right like, that

451
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 4: was the one that he said he voted on that

452
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 4: didn't get you know, approved, because right like, the note

453
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: says there that could be offensive, right it says that.

454
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: It doesn't say it is offensive, it says it could.

455
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 4: And that is like you know, fact based reporting there

456
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 4: right that, Yes, some people are going to find a

457
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 4: fence with this, but for for the shit they posted

458
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 4: where nah y'all chipping the same races?

459
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: None to see it like that was not on biased

460
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: factor boarding, bro, Were.

461
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 6: Y'all moved emotionally by anything?

462
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: Anybody said? Nothing?

463
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 4: No, not at all, bro, bro, No, I don't give

464
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: about anything that that crowd has moved.

465
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: I was moved that the community note was removed.

466
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 4: That was I was that was moved by how much

467
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 4: people by how much our people rallied around us.

468
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Speaker 1: I'll say that, Yeah, that was. That was fire. That

469
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: was fire as fuck. The only thing that I could say.

470
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad when they put booty holes in our mouths.

471
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: I actually laughed in his booty holes in his mouths,

472
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: and I was I wanted to beat disass, but not

473
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: because I was Max. I laughed at it. I wanted

474
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: to beat disasses. I want people like it to get

475
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: their ass beat, you know what I mean. So like

476
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Speaker 1: that's the only thing I could say. I was moved

477
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: at all by But I actually thought it was funny.

478
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: But dog, that ship was crazy booty holes.

479
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah no, that's why you got to give that up. Yeah, yeah,

480
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 2: I just I just have a couple of quick other points.

481
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Speaker 3: One is and no, you know, this kind of a

482
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: clip would be so unremarkable, it would never go It

483
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: would never get picked up by a conservative meme account

484
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: or whatever. But on the exact same podcast we talked

485
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: about Jim Ersay.

486
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 2: Let me foreground this.

487
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: Sorry, all of our brains the problem with social media

488
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: is all of our brains are conditioned such that if

489
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: you hear something five or ten times, your brain sort

490
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 3: of believes it is true. And that is like what

491
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: a lot of this troll stuff is attempting to hack.

492
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: Is that just like part of the way our cognition works.

493
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: If you were reading this stuff yesterday and going, ge, well,

494
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: he is a kid, you know, or oh maybe he is.

495
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: He does have a grandfather's numk. Just remember, on this

496
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 3: same podcast we talked about Jim Ersay, a white billionaire

497
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: owner of the cult saying he was discriminated against by

498
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: the police for being a white billionaire. And if that

499
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 3: sounds super ludicrous to you, just it's that exact same

500
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: and then use the fact that he had a black

501
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: nanny as his reason why he could.

502
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Speaker 2: Not be racist.

503
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Speaker 3: That is like the root of this for thinking in America, bro.

504
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: It is just like John said, it is people who

505
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: feel that being called racist and then there being no

506
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: consequences that that is racial discrimination. Like and again, we

507
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: weren't suggesting that there should be any consequences. We were

508
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: just saying it's funny and it's racist. Yes, now here's

509
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: the serious conversation. I want to ask you guys about this.

510
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: You know, and I saw on the replies theres people

511
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: saying I'm Native and it's not offensive. That's I'm never

512
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: going to be a white person saying black people should

513
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: be offended by this, Native people should be ever in

514
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: my fucking life cool that it didn't offend you. I

515
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: might have friends, I do have friends who felt that

516
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: the kid wearing blackface is offensive. That's their right to say,

517
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: not even be aggrieved or offended, but to say that's

518
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: racist or it's offensive I've got people in my family

519
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: who are Native, who are offended by people wearing who

520
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: are very offended, who I've even like, who don't think

521
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: that teams like the Chiefs or the Brave should have

522
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: those names. I don't even go that far. I don't

523
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people. I didn't think that

524
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 3: the Washington team should have their football team name.

525
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: Right, that's a.

526
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: Spectrum of things that you can feel that you could

527
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: talk about with your friends and it's not a big

528
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 3: deal or whatever. What I wanted to ask you guys

529
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: about is the argument that's being introduced today on Wednesday

530
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: as we're recording this of what he has a grandparent

531
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: who is Native. Whether it's true or not, Let's assume

532
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: that it's true. You guys know my kids. I'm their dad.

533
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: They're half white. My wife is their mom. They're half

534
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: not white, they are part black, they are part Native.

535
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: You also are aware of how light they are and

536
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: that they look like white kids with a little something right, like,

537
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: they look like multi racial.

538
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Kids, not my own.

539
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: So you know, we've sear and I have talked about

540
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: some of the kids. We talked about with each other.

541
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't I've told the kids, Like, if you're listening

542
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: to rap music, you're leaving out the N word, Like

543
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, you're not saying that

544
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: out loud. If you get older, you have friends, you're

545
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: making your own decisions.

546
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: You're a quarter black, like whatever.

547
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: But right now, when you're in my custody, I'm going

548
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: to make this decision for you to a certain extent.

549
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: And similarly, I would never put them and this is

550
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: not the way that my wife interacts with her native heritage.

551
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: Would never put them in a headdress and send them

552
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: to a football game or something like that. Right, But

553
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: as we move forward as a country, we are an

554
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: increasingly multi racial country, and I don't think that there

555
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: are objectively correct answers to these questions. So I'm curious

556
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: about that. From your guy's perspective, if you see Vinnie

557
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: at fifteen years old and he's saying the N word,

558
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: and you know, because you know him, he has a

559
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: black grandparent, that's still going to not feel one hundred

560
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: percent correct to you. Am I right about that? Or like,

561
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: how do you feel about this? I've got one grandparent,

562
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: and therefore I'm making all the decisions about like whatever else.

563
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm just genuinely curious for your guys thoughts and if

564
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: you want to take my kids out of it, whatever,

565
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: but I'm curious for your thoughts on that that aspect

566
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: of this.

567
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: You know, race is so it's it's something that is

568
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: so foundational to our existence. It's something that's so like

569
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: fake at its coret too right, because it's perception is reality.

570
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 4: Like for instance, I'm just gonna draw some celebrities who

571
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 4: people know, like like j Cole, half black, half white.

572
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: He could say nigga because he's a nigga, right logic,

573
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: Half black, half white. This motherfucker looks like Rick moranis.

574
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel right when he says it, you know

575
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, like I said, perception means so

576
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 4: much in these conversations. Like I said, race is, it's

577
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: so foundational and it's just it's it's so it's I mean,

578
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 4: I want to say complicated, but if it feels like

579
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: complicated kind of overseells how much of bullshit it is

580
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: at its core?

581
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? For me, it's like, how

582
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: are you experiencing this world? You know what I mean?

583
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: Are the cops gonna pull your ass over and treat

584
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: you particular way due to the color of your skin,

585
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

586
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: I think that plays the part in it.

587
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Like j Cole looks like a person that experiences the

588
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: world is black. You know what I'm saying. You probably

589
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: do with the same shit we do logic, didn't, you

590
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's how I kind of

591
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: people like, you know, saw me, she's had any if

592
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: she looked more like rather I have the same conversation

593
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: you were having you have, Mike, you know what I'm saying,

594
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Like you know, but so like that's that's that's how

595
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: That's how I kind of kind of feel about it,

596
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: you know, like how you experience in the world. You know,

597
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: it's just a cop test. Are they are they on

598
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: your side or not? Are they to protect you know

599
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, that's the litmus test. You know,

600
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: how would the cops react to you? That's how I

601
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of feel.

602
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, someone there was some conversation like a

603
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: long time ago, I want to see it was between

604
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. But where they like Clinton

605
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: was like very obsessed with the genetic basis for race.

606
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: That like there's very little like that. There's no genetic

607
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: dissimilarity between a black person and white person tied to

608
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: their race other than sort of like melanin content, right,

609
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: and that was kind of something like Obama pointed out

610
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: as it's like the big joke of it is and

611
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: it's not really a funny joke, but it's funny in

612
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: the same way that putting your kid in black face

613
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 3: and red face and a head dress and sending him

614
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: to a football game is funny.

615
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: Is.

616
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is not a basis, but people using like

617
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: like people identifying as race is not. Like black people

618
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: did not choose to be classified as a different kind

619
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: of person, thus leading to centuries of slavery and segregation

620
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: and discrimination in this country. That was a choice that

621
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: white people made. And so then the like now hundreds

622
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: of years later, a decula whatever to go, Oh, you're

623
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: choosing to you know, you're choosing to say that like

624
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: blackness is the most important thing and that people shouldn't

625
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: wear black face is racist of you. It really is

626
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: like only human beings could come up with something that wicked,

627
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean to like judo throw that

628
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: concept of race.

629
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Speaker 2: H Do y'all got anything else to say about this?

630
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Or we can move on. Uh, see you in court.

631
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 7: I guess okay, I didn't have this on the topic list,

632
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 7: but we have to briefly talk about we were always

633
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 7: for the record, we were always a pro in season

634
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 7: tournament podcast, and boy have we been vindicated over the

635
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 7: last week.

636
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: Like, I don't understand how anyone could have looked at

637
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: the NBA in November and said that anything would not

638
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: have been an improvement. Like even if all this shit

639
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: was was the NBA signaling Tuesdays and Fridays, you could

640
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: watch these games and not feel embarrassed, you know what

641
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: I mean? Like that has been valuable and these dudes

642
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: are hooping their ass up. It was like six straight

643
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: hours of great basketball with the Heat and the Bucks

644
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: and the Warriors and the Kings last night. And I'm

645
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: super excited. We haven't even gotten to the bracket yet.

646
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: The bracket is gonna be great, single elimination tournament.

647
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: Man.

648
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm so excited we have this shit, and

649
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm very excited to get to talk about these games

650
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: all week next week.

651
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: Bro. That Kings and and Warriors game was so good

652
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: last night.

653
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: Bro, Like the fucking fucking Malik Monk, you know, the

654
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: game when it hit that shit felt like some NC

655
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: double a tournament ship right right, that off balance falling

656
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: down to to seal the win shit, And yeah, and

657
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: it's it's it's like, you know, we've always been on

658
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: the side of bro, these games are gonna happen anyway,

659
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: why not why not incentivize them? Why not make them

660
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: count for more? Like you gotta play eighty two regardless,

661
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: so fuck it. Make like you know, six of these

662
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: motherfuckers counts. So so yeah. I mean I love the

663
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: n season tournament. And like I said, I was always

664
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: on the side of telling folks, bro, y'all are gonna

665
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: love it, like because motherfuckers were bitching and complaining about

666
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: the playing and now we love to play in too.

667
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: Bro.

668
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: Just just like I said, there's nothing, there is no

669
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: downside to further incentivizing regular season games.

670
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: I do not see it exactly.

671
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: I saw a Kings fan talking about hanging the championship

672
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: from the Raptors if they were.

673
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: To win one. Hang up, Hey, I love it, bro. Hey,

674
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: go ahead, what did you guys say? I was gonna say,

675
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: celebrate everything.

676
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: You know, that's the model, facts, facts, facts, So I mean,

677
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: you have the fans are tapping into Man, it's made

678
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: it fun.

679
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: I enjoyed.

680
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: All Right, let's talk about Uh, this is a big story.

681
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Were not going to get super into it. But Sports Illustrated,

682
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: which is the reason I wanted to be a sports writer.

683
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: It was a bastion of not just like journalism, but

684
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: just a great writing, of great profile writing period has

685
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: descended into just absolute nothingness, to the extent that there's

686
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: a revelation that they're using AI generated content from false personas.

687
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to make this point. I've been

688
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: a sportswriter for seventeen years. I can't imagine being an

689
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: AI robot and finding out that the card I drew

690
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: with sportswriter. What a fucking bumper of all the industries

691
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: to get pulled into as a robot sportswriting.

692
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Damn.

693
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: All right, y'all want to talk about Young Thugs court case?

694
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: Someone who actually is being seen in court is young

695
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: thug whose lawyer made the argument that thug stands for

696
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: truly humbled under God. Uh. Twitter detectors have also unveiled

697
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: an old young Thug tweet saying that swag stands for

698
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: someone who admires God. I love to see the acrostic

699
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: legal defense. I feel like it's bulletproofs.

700
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, you know we're a big acronym pod,

701
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: so you know, I have been enjoying, you know, the

702
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: the spin that they're putting on this. But I will

703
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: say this though, on a serious note, the whole using

704
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: lyrics in court things.

705
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 6: That's to be hard, bro, Like, you're gonna use that, yeah,

706
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 6: go ahead.

707
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: And and and they you know, pulled up a bar

708
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: where he said he put twenty four ms on his

709
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: head when and that that that lyric was him talking

710
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: about Oozie putting a diamond in his head, right, And

711
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: they said that dad was him putting a bounty on something,

712
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: putting a twenty four million dollar bounty on someone like

713
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: And that's the whole thing here. It goes back to

714
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: the whole ship that you know, with with with the

715
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: with the little cheese kit. It's just like there are

716
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: just things here where where they're just there's just cultural

717
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: blind spots, motherfuckers. And you cannot you know, have those

718
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: blind spots when someone's read them is on the line

719
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: and leverage shit against them that you have no fucking

720
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: idea what you're talking about.

721
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: A doubt Doug has even twenty four million dollars liquid

722
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: to just you know what I'm saying, It's just absurd

723
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: in so many ways. But I mean, if if it's

724
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: you versus the United States with America, do whatever you

725
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: gotta do.

726
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: Man, if that's.

727
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Gonna get you, you know what I mean, we got

728
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: to go to youth church and we've got youth church service.

729
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: You feel me.

730
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: If you got to pull that out, hey, do it man.

731
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, And also who's representing them doing that shit?

732
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: Though?

733
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 6: Honestly, you know what I mean, Like this, how do

734
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 6: y'all feel about the case?

735
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: What do y'all?

736
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm I'm with you that like this was a you know,

737
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: in southern California, the gang identify err tag in terms

738
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: of how people's files with the police are like, once

739
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: you're identified as sort of like a gang member, you

740
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: effectively lose a pretty.

741
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: Good chunk of your civil rights right.

742
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: And it's been documented it, you know, the La County

743
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: Sheriffs and and I'm sure it's been a problem long Beach.

744
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen a big piece on it

745
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: that you know that that obviously is pretty liberally applied

746
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: to basically just like black kids generally. You know, you

747
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: have a friend who has a friend who's in a gang.

748
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: Now the police can search whatever they want, whatever they

749
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: want without thought, right, that kind of stuff exist. I

750
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: think that there's been some reform around it because of

751
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: the like sort of high profile stories about it being misapplied.

752
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: But I don't follow that closely enough to tell you

753
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: what the status of it is. But to me, it

754
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: falls under that same tag of like, this is a

755
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: country where we do have a First Amendment. Some of

756
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: us who've had seven hundred people say we're gonna get

757
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 3: sued or very happy for that First Amendment right now.

758
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: But like the First Amendment allows it, Like the First

759
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Amendment is so powerful that it's the reason you have

760
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: effectively never see anyone sued for lying, like you know

761
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like it like it's so all encompassing

762
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: that yes, it should and does protect you from being

763
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: able to express yourself artistic. That's like one of the

764
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: easy things that it protects you from doing.

765
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: And so I I.

766
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: Hate seeing anything someone wrote in a song. I think

767
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: there was like an old sketch, like a mad TV

768
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: sketch or something where someone was literally like rapping about

769
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: like where they hit a body or something. Right, it's

770
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: like at sixty seventh min Marshall. You know, like you're

771
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: supposed to be able to express yourself artistically without hearing

772
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: those things read by a judge or a lawyer in

773
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: a courtroom. That's like one of the few things I

774
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: think is truly good about their country.

775
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: It's the First Amendment.

776
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, it bothers me on a very deep level.

777
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I actually am like a

778
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: First Amendment. I'm in a you know, I pay my

779
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: yearly dues to like a first you know, First Amendment

780
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: legal firm and stuff like that. I really do believe,

781
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: Like I don't, I don't care how stupid the thing

782
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: you're saying is like, this is a this is America, bro.

783
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: You're supposed to be allowed to be stupid, and we're

784
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: clearly allowing it in lots of other places.

785
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: So why not rat lyrics? Bro? In fact, do you

786
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: pay dues? Was that A that's true?

787
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: Make a make like a five dollars. They don't have

788
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: my credit card, you know what I mean. But when

789
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: they send me the thing, I send it in you

790
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

791
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: Because it's wrap yourself in an American flag and press

792
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: the button.

793
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what I mean.

794
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: But like the the legal cases that people take up

795
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: are like a journalist file the Freedom of Information Act

796
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: request to find out, like you know, whether a judge

797
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: was communicating with someone that they're they're they're presiding over

798
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: a case. And then and then the judge or someone

799
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: sues the journalists for harassment or for defamation or something

800
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: because they're investigating the story. Like a lot of times,

801
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: the people who are doing that work are weird people

802
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: like the journal Like the journalists, that person's often a

803
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: weird guy that not a lot of people like you

804
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean in a small town somewhere in

805
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Mississippi or wherever. And so those people need help from

806
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: those of us who can use social media or whatever,

807
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: you know, to put some kind of like legal backing

808
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: behind them. And I don't know, I really am a

809
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: kind of a crusader on that ship. So I have

810
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 3: a science fact to blow your mind before we get

811
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: to Tyler's Hippity Hawk segment.

812
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: Are you ready? That's all right?

813
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 3: Are you aware that since Pluto was discovered and where

814
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: a Pluto is a planet?

815
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: Podcast? Yes? Do we have that argue we had that discussion. Yes,

816
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: John's undecided. No, I just wanted to argue.

817
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: Okay, my very excellent mother just served us nine pizzas

818
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 4: is going to live forever.

819
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

820
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Okay, Pluto is a planet. Are you aware?

821
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: Do you argue against me saying Pluto was a planet? Though? Huh? Yeah?

822
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: I didn't y'all want that, But it's two to one, bro,

823
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna you know what I mean. This is

824
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 3: America's democracy. Y'all said, is a planet?

825
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: Just leaned in?

826
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, go ahead, Hey, Jenkins and Jones and the

827
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: other one of you both said that it's a it's

828
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: a planet, so you know, are you aware that since

829
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 3: Pluto was discovered, it has only completed like a fifteen

830
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: percent orbit around the Sun it.

831
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: Was discovering like the nineteen thirties or some shit, right.

832
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, wait, wait, it has never done a full

833
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 1: rotation around the Sun.

834
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: Pluto's orbit around the Sun takes the Earth equivalent of

835
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty eight years, because that's how far

836
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: from the Sun it is, and its rotation to be

837
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: what we would consider a day takes the equivalent of

838
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty three hours. But I don't know why.

839
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: That just tripped me out so hard that it's like,

840
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: we consider, even if you're thinking deeply about stuff, there's

841
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: certain things we take for granted, including seasons and a year, etcetera. Right,

842
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: it will We'll all be dead for a long time

843
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: before Pluto completes one orbit to the same spot in

844
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: the universe that it was when human beings found it,

845
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: which happened well before we were alive. Like, I don't

846
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: know that just trips we're really just dust.

847
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I didn't I honestly, Yeah, I never think of, like

848
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: you said, we take it for granted. I never think

849
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: of like Mars, you know what I mean, traveling around

850
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: the Earth slower. I did think about Jupiter the days

851
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: being longer because it's bigger, you know what I mean.

852
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: But I didn't think it was travel around the Earth

853
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: at such a different pace, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

854
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was. Yeah, that's that's that's crazy,

855
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: all right, Bro. That kind of makes me think it's

856
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: not a planet.

857
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It has nothing to do with nothing.

858
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm really on my motherfucking it's.

859
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: A planets settled science on Jacobson Jones And it's a plane.

860
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

861
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 6: It just gives me a feeling. It makes no logical sense.

862
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: Why that would be the thing out there, way out there,

863
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: bro a hundred you know, two hundred years.

864
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: That's crazy, all right.

865
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: I mean it's as little as hell, and it's like

866
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 4: mostly gas, right, so the gravitations.

867
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: It's mostly ice ice, yeah, froz in gas.

868
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: Right, But that's how big the sun is that something

869
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: could be that far away, like they said, they said,

870
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: hold on, there was another stat that that kind of

871
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: blew my mind. So you know, the speed of light

872
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: is obviously quite fast, right, it takes our sun. It

873
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: takes uh five and a half hours for light from the.

874
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Sun to reach Pluto. How far away from the How

875
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: fast it takes like six minutes for us? Right or

876
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: some shit? I mean yeah, something like that. How fast?

877
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 6: And miles per hour? Is the speed of light?

878
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: Like one hundred and forty four millions or some shit?

879
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of shit. I know it's one

880
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 4: forty four is in that motherfucker somewhere?

881
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: I think it is six point seven o six to

882
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: the eighth.

883
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: What about light makes it what what what physical factor six?

884
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: It's it's six hundred and seventy one million miles per hour?

885
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: What physical factors about light make it faster than sound?

886
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: It weighs less?

887
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Is that's that's the only thing. I don't think that's

888
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: the only thing, because as a wave and light as

889
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: a particle, Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, but it does.

890
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: It's that's and you know there's this thing. Have you

891
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: seen this h They've created this like gel that's like

892
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: so dense that you shoot light through it and it

893
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: slows down the speed of light like see the laser

894
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: like move across.

895
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: It or whatever. Anyway, all right, we're in the weeds now.

896
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: But this sound is like under a thousand miles per hour.

897
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 2: Isn't it? Uh, it can't be very fast because human beings. Yeah,

898
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: it's like eight hundred. It's like no, I think it's

899
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: like eight hundred.

900
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: It's seven hundred sixty seven miles per hour.

901
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Right, So it's I mean that's that ain't ship nigga

902
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: like fighter just fighter jet Smack that motherfucker before they

903
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: even get in to the full stride, you know what

904
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying?

905
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean? Right, our airplanes go

906
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: faster than that.

907
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: That's why when you hear an airplane, that's not the airplane,

908
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: that's them breaking the sound bear.

909
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: That's about fighter that fight that bone.

910
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got We've got sonic boom, sonic

911
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: boom or right, Tyler, Tyler rescue us here. We're going

912
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: to close as we do every Thursday with Dragonfly Jones's

913
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: Hippity Hop segment, and we have a very special anniversary

914
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: to celebrate this week.

915
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: So on this week in Hippiie Hop. In nineteen ninety three,

916
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: the rapper then known as Snoop Doggie Dog dropped his

917
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: seminal debut, Doggy Style, Executive produced by Doctor Dre. It

918
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: was the second album ever released by Death Row Records,

919
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: following up on Doctor Dre's The Chronic, which was released

920
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: a year earlier in November of nineteen ninety two. More

921
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 4: than just a sequential continuation of the Chronic, Doggy Style

922
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: was a sonic continuation of The Chronic as well. So

923
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: in order to fully grasp the artistic depth of Doggy Style,

924
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: we have to talk about the Chronic a little as well.

925
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: So let's talk about the Chronic, all right. So I'm

926
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: sure all of us are familiar with Doctor Dre's backstory,

927
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: member and lead producer of NWA. NWA was signed to

928
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: Ruthless Records, a record label with Easy and Jerry Heller

929
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: as the figureheads. Ice Cube was the first to jump

930
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: ship from n WA and the group eventually disbanded. Doctor

931
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: Dre famously fell out with Easy E and Jerry Heller

932
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: and wound up signning with death Throw Records, a fledgling

933
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: startup label that Doctor dra co founded with fellow Compton

934
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: native the infamous Sug Knight. The split was far from amicable, however,

935
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 4: with Jerry Heller going on record saying that during negotiations,

936
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: Shug employed illicit strong arm tactics to get Dre released

937
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: from his deal. Heller told stories of goons showing up

938
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 4: to the Roofless office with baseball bats and lower has

939
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: it that Easy finally signed Drey over to Death Row

940
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: after Drey invited him to the studio to talk, and

941
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: upon his arrival, Easy was jumped by Shug in his

942
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: homies and not allowed to leave until after signing the

943
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: paperwork that relinquished Doctor Drake. Jerry Heller's also gone on

944
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: records saying that after this incident, Easy disclosing that he

945
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: was going to murder Shig Night. Jerry Heller said he

946
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: convinced Easy not to, and he eventually regretted talking Easy

947
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: out of killing him, saying, quote, you know something, I

948
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: should have let him kill it. I would have done

949
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: the world of favor and Easy would have done it

950
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: for sure. But enough about the messy shit.

951
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: Back to the music.

952
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Was hard as shit, you know what I mean. I'm like,

953
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: Easy was about that. I'm surprised he didn't. You know

954
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Make that shit up and go ahead though.

955
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So doctor Dre now he has a new

956
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: start with a new label, and he is also trailblazing

957
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: a new sound which will come to be known as

958
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: g funk gangster funk. So quick, etymology lesson on the

959
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 4: term g funk. It was a spin on the term

960
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 4: p funk, which was the musical Collective of Parliament and Funkadelic,

961
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: which was what the musical Collective of Parliament and Funkadelic

962
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: dubbed themselves. The p Funk Collective consisted of dozens of musicians,

963
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: with their most famous members being George Clinton and Bootsy Collins.

964
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: Parliament Funkadelic were trailblazers as well, as they pioneered a

965
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: new sound themselves that they dubbed psychedelic funk, a fusion

966
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: of psychedelic rock and funk. So for listeners not familiar

967
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 4: with what psychedelic music is, it's basically music created by

968
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: artists when they're on drugs that is going to sound

969
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: even better to the listener if they're high while they

970
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: listen to it as well. So G funk didn't just

971
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: borrow its moniker from p funk, but it borrowed its

972
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: vibe and aesthetic as well. Doctor Dre heavily sampled p

973
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: funk records in its production. He's famously seen warding of

974
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: a Funkadelic shirt in his Dre Da video, and that

975
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: advocacy for getting high that was foundational in p Funk's

976
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: music was foundational the g funk as well. Weed was

977
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: foundational to g funk. Doctor Dre named his album The

978
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: Chronic and homage to him it's news favorite strain of weed.

979
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: And as for the sonic aspects of g funk, it

980
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: was a complete left turn from the more aggressive East

981
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: Coast production that dominated the early nineties at the time.

982
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: G funk production was more mellow, laid back with hypnotic grooves.

983
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: While nineteen ninety two New York was churning out headbangers

984
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: like throw Your Guns in the Air by Onyx and

985
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: Punction Ump Up to Get beat Down by Brand Nubian,

986
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 4: Dre was rolling out smooth, laid back cuts like let

987
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: Me Ride in nothing but a G Thing. As mentioned,

988
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: g Funk leaded heavily on Parliament Funkadelic samples and that

989
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: high pitched dog whistle synthesize of that Dre utilized. We're

990
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: going to be that sounds trademark as well, So now

991
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: we equip with this new sound and this new label. Doctor

992
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: Dre goes on to craft The Chronic, a timeless, mount

993
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: rushmore rap album than my opinion. In spirit, the Chronic

994
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 4: feels more like a compilation than a solo album. There's

995
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 4: only one soul on song on The Chronic that Drey

996
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: appears on by himself, and there are three songs on

997
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: that album that he doesn't rap on at all. The

998
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: Chronic is more of a showcasing of the new talent

999
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: on Death Row Records. It's an album anchored by the

1000
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: production of Doctor Dre. As he introduced us to newcomers

1001
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: such as Nate Dog, Warren g, Lady of Rage, Corrupt,

1002
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: Dazz RBX, and of course, the star of the show,

1003
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: Snoop Doggy Dog. While Snoop was first introduced to us

1004
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: by Doctor Dre on the track Deep Cover, which was

1005
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: featured on the soundtrack of the movie of the same name,

1006
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: the Chronic was Snoop's arrival. He appeared on twelve of

1007
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 4: the Chronic sixteen tracks and completely stole the show. His

1008
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: star is born on that album, and anticipation for his

1009
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: solo album reaches a fever pitch. So about a year

1010
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: later after the Chronics release, Snoop and Death Row Records

1011
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: with Doctor Dre executive producing, released Doggy Style, where Snoop

1012
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: had the spotlight on the Chronic. On Doggy Style, he

1013
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: has the entire stage to himself and does not disappoint.

1014
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: The lead single, What's My Name is a Quinnsenti g

1015
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: funk track sampling a Tomic Dog by George Clinton and

1016
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: Knee Deep by Funkadelic. Doggie Dog World is an unbelievably

1017
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: smooth track showing off the chemistry with him and his

1018
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 4: fellow dog Pound comrades Stads and Corrupt Ain't no fun.

1019
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: It's such a banger that it makes you forget how

1020
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: wildly misogynistic it is. Lottie Dottie, which covers the Slick

1021
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: Rick song of the same name, as one of the

1022
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: rap's greatest covers ever. It was embraced as a classic

1023
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: immediately by rap fans and was a critical and commercial

1024
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: success as well. Doggie Style were going to sell eight

1025
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 4: hundred thousand copies in its first weeks in its first week,

1026
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: which at the time was not only the biggest first

1027
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: week for an album from a debut artist ever, but

1028
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: was also the biggest first week any rap album had

1029
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: ever had up to that point. It is now certified

1030
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: Diamond and is wildly considered by many to be one

1031
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: of the best rap albums ever and perhaps the greatest

1032
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: West Coast rap album of all time. Although Doggi Style

1033
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 4: is an album that stands on the shoulders of the Chronic,

1034
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: it's an album that allowed Snoop to forge his own

1035
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: path as he went on to become the biggest star

1036
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: and biggest household name that rap has ever produced. If

1037
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: Deep Cover with Snoop's Intro and The Chronic with snoops

1038
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: Arrival and then Doggy Style was Snoop's coming out party,

1039
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: so Mike Long Beach Mayor in the building, Like, what

1040
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: was the scene in Long Beach when Snoop man?

1041
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Well, I was ten when Doggie Style came out, so

1042
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: I missed the super great Uh, Like I missed the

1043
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: the getting to be fifteen when that album came out, right,

1044
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that album. I've told you guys

1045
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: when we all grew up, rap was regional. Everything was

1046
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: regional because we didn't have the Internet, because we're nine

1047
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: hundred years old, and so I didn't know, like I've

1048
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: told y'all, like Das Dillinger knew Snoop, So I thought

1049
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: Das Dillinger was as famous as as jay Z until

1050
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: I was like twenty years old. Corrupt, like I thought

1051
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: Daz Dillinger corrupt, jay Z, Biggie and Snoop Dogg and

1052
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: Doctor like I thought those were all like equal people, right,

1053
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: And what I would say what's unique about Snoop and

1054
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: Doggie Style and the whole G funk movement is I've

1055
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: talked about VIP records a few times, but VIP Records

1056
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: across the street, literally across Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard

1057
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: from Long Beach Polly. You could see from football practices

1058
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 3: you could see the famous sign, and Snoop Dogg recorded,

1059
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 3: you know, he recorded videos of his own and videos

1060
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: of the east Side.

1061
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Is where he's.

1062
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: Standing on top of VIP Records. That is like the

1063
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: physical center of east side Long Beach of where that

1064
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: music came out of. And so that's what I remember,

1065
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: is is VIP back in the day, which is now

1066
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 3: a seven to eleven. There's a smaller version of VIP

1067
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: that I took y'all to when you came out here.

1068
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: You know, you can see that sign from everywhere, So

1069
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: it was it was so iconic. And what I remember

1070
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 3: was the whole front of that whole mini shopping center

1071
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: would be painted albums, and so I remember the Doggy

1072
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: Style album stayed up there. And so I remember when

1073
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: I was going to POLLI, when I was going to

1074
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: high school. Four five years later, you still would see

1075
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: it and it was just again like it was just

1076
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: it was so cool because Snoop and there's always been

1077
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: people from Long Beach like this, but Snoop, obviously, I

1078
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: think I agree with you, is.

1079
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: Like what the most iconic person.

1080
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: He just made you feel like Long Beach was the

1081
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: center of the world, and Donkey style made you feel

1082
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: like Long Beach was the center of the world. And again, like,

1083
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: it didn't occur to me that there was that G funk,

1084
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: wasn't I thought that's what rap music was gonna be period,

1085
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: Like I just thought that's what all of rap music

1086
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: had developed into, was G funk. And And what's cool

1087
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: about that is you talk about those specific synthesizers and

1088
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: sounds that was like equipment that was at VIP Records

1089
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: that they just happened to have this equipment for these

1090
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: dudes to experiment on as they were learning how to

1091
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, do this stuff. What's My Name is still

1092
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: my favorite single beat of all time. Like I love

1093
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: I love that just the intro to that song. I

1094
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: don't even need to listen to the rest of the song.

1095
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: But like if I if I'm tired and I have

1096
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: a meeting I have to go to or something, I

1097
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: would listen to the first fifteen seconds of that song.

1098
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1099
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 3: So no, I I you summed all that up, youtfu

1100
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: And I didn't even know some of the some of

1101
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: the history that easy that was. That's hilarious, but yeah,

1102
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: it's it's it's cool Man because it's just so central

1103
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: here and it's remained relevant and it is one of

1104
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: the few things unlike I mean, as great as Corrupt

1105
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: Daz as all those guys are doggy style. Still it

1106
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: was it was cool seeing you know, everyone going off

1107
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: about the thirtieth anniversary because it's such an important album

1108
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: here that it is like that one thing that we

1109
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: felt like was the center of the world that is

1110
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: still the center of the.

1111
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: World, you know what I mean. Snoop is my favorite

1112
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: rapper ever.

1113
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 4: Like I want to say he's in the goat discussion,

1114
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: but he is like my favorite rapper ever. I've never

1115
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: wanted to be a rapper more than I wanted to

1116
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: be Snoop right, Like you know, I like jay Z,

1117
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: I like Big, I didn't want to be those I

1118
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: wanted to be Snoop right like he was. Just it

1119
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: was just like you know, when he first dropped with

1120
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: his debut, it was like he won Rookie of the

1121
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: Year and like MVP that year with that album. Bro,

1122
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: it was like he became like the top guy in

1123
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: the rap game with his debut album, you know what

1124
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 4: I mean. And you know they'll run that that he had,

1125
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: like you know, I do think that, you know, his

1126
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: follow up album was a dud, one of the biggest

1127
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 4: you know, disappointments after a classic ever. But I do

1128
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: think that his hisesography is a bit solid. Like I

1129
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: love the shit he did with No Limit. I love

1130
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: Orange Range. He's probably my second favorite Snoop album behind

1131
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 4: you know, dog Is Style when he liked that with

1132
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: Farrell and Farrell gave him like ten beats for that

1133
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 4: shit my second favorite Soop album ever. So you know,

1134
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: besides him being like my favorite rapper ever, like I said,

1135
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 4: he's he's the biggest star that rap has ever produced

1136
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: for sure. Like he is a household name. Everyone on

1137
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: the planet knows who that dude is, bro.

1138
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: And if you question that, I could tell you how

1139
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: much that how much money that do makes to go

1140
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: DJ one set in China, Bro, everyone on the planet

1141
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 3: knows who that man is. And the other thing I

1142
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: want to emphasize is he did it with his homies, bro,

1143
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Like how cool is that?

1144
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: Like, you know, again, rap, we don't.

1145
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: We Snoop is not we think of him as a

1146
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: solo act, but he really came up with his like

1147
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 3: best friends, Like how cool is that? Snoop Dogg, Warren G,

1148
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: Nate dog like these dudes, you know. I mean, I

1149
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: obviously you could name ten other people that were sort

1150
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: of in a circle. But like, I think that's so

1151
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: cool because it was a it was a community that

1152
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: they came out of, and the community sounded like what

1153
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: living in Long Beach is. Like. It's fun, it's funny,

1154
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: it's easy, it's smooth, you know, and it's musically influenced.

1155
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: Like what I love when I've seen Snoop Dogg live

1156
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: is he plays with a live band. Because Snoop Dogg,

1157
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 3: Nate Tho, those dudes learn music in church. They learn

1158
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: music playing instruments, playing piano, singing in church. You had

1159
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: to know how to go off or run off of

1160
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: someone else. You had to know, oh the pianos speeding up, I'm.

1161
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: Picking it up.

1162
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: It's never a put the track on, I'm gonna do

1163
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: this shit I'm doing and I'm leaving. There's always like

1164
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: a live element of what they're doing. And I think

1165
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: that's part of what's so fun about it.

1166
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: To me, It's just like it's what music is supposed

1167
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: to be. You're right, man, he is.

1168
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: He's famous on a different level. And we would always

1169
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 3: joke when I was growing up, if someone who wasn't

1170
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 3: from Long Beach found out you were from Long Beach,

1171
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: the first question they would always ask is, Oh, do

1172
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: you know Snoop Dogg? Or have you met Snoop Dogg?

1173
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: And what was funny is we would always complain about that,

1174
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: about how stereotypical and dumb that was, but also most

1175
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: people would have to say, yes, I have met Snoop.

1176
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: He would you just pop up.

1177
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: He would just be at the he would just be

1178
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: at the corner store or whatever. You know, he would

1179
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: just be visiting his mom, and so he would pop

1180
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: up like I was. I went on a tour Polly

1181
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: with him one time for a Polly Football spring showcase

1182
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 3: when actually when Antonio Pierce was a coach and he

1183
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: was just saying hi to all his teachers, like his

1184
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: middle school pe teacher came and you know, it was

1185
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: just like and he still knew everybody. He was still

1186
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: like he's he is For a guy as famous as

1187
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: he is, he's remarkably still like down to earth and solid.

1188
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know how famous he was like until I

1189
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: was my freshman year college. I was at the front

1190
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: desk and we were talking about like famous rappers, and

1191
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: I was saying, jay Z is just as famous as

1192
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: as Snoop, and so he was like, bro, no, he's not, like,

1193
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: yes he is. He's like, let's ask people coming into

1194
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: the to the building, you know, if they know who

1195
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: jay Z is, regardless of race, Let's ask everybody.

1196
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: That's so much more.

1197
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Instagram followed right right right, But that was that was

1198
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: That was two thousand and two.

1199
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, hit the street right right

1200
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 4: right right right.

1201
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: Let's add some real humans, you know what I mean.

1202
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: So everybody that came in, regardless of age whatever, everybody

1203
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: knew who Stu was. Maybe three out of ten people

1204
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: knew who JAYZ was. Like everybody knew who I mean.

1205
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: This was two thousand and it was two thousand and two,

1206
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: so like but yeah, man like And one thing about

1207
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: Tyler said about like him him wanting to be Snoop.

1208
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: The only rapper I ever wanted to be was Tupac.

1209
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1210
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: That's everybody around me, all all my cousins and all

1211
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: that thought, you know, my you know cousins like loved him.

1212
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: So I was like, I like that actually is like

1213
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: very representative of both of.

1214
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: You, So I want I want to you feel me.

1215
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: But that's why I was off most wonderful, Right, let's

1216
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: run it back you hear me?

1217
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: But nah, but like but like like Snoop to me,

1218
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: was is the coolest rapper that's ever existed, point blank.

1219
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: So I see why he's your favorite rapper. Like he

1220
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: was cool. He was the coolest in the time of rap,

1221
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: was still cool. I feel like nineties was the coolest

1222
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: era rap and he was the coolest person during that

1223
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: time period.

1224
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: So it makes sense.

1225
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, like I didn't know how famous he

1226
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: was until that moment. But yeah, that when that when

1227
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: that album hit, Like I wasn't I think Tennessee at

1228
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: the time, and no matter who you were, we was

1229
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: all you know what I'm saying, we always tapped it

1230
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: with that. That's the first album I got and had

1231
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: to hide from my people, Like you know what I'm saying.

1232
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: They had to tune it up. I was like, yo, bro,

1233
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: I need this, but.

1234
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: I've told that story, but I can't right right buying

1235
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: me that album, like you had to put it. I

1236
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: had to put it under you know, like an offspring album,

1237
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1238
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: I put it. I got it. I was.

1239
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: I was, I was downstairs in the basement and I

1240
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: still put it under my mattress. Bro and I would

1241
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: listen to it on my headphones through my boombox. I

1242
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: remember that I would pokes put put my headphones in

1243
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: my boombox, listen to it.

1244
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: Bro.

1245
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: But my mom, she was like, I could get away

1246
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: with much, so like I couldn't just hide it in

1247
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: the album. I would come home and like my backpack

1248
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: could be wide open. She wouldn't even try to put

1249
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: the stuff back here. She was like, I want you

1250
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: to know you can't get away with none round here.

1251
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: And she and it was, I get it, Bro, I was,

1252
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: I was on some but anyway, yeah, yeah, man.

1253
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: Snoop was Snoop Special.

1254
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: And I'll say something unique about Snoop is that he

1255
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 4: was like the first gangster rapper that I saw like clowning,

1256
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: like cracking jokes, right, Like I'm not at all saying

1257
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: humor wasn't president rap like you had, you know, acts

1258
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: like Dayla Soul, Who are you know?

1259
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: Humorous? You had like you know Will Smith and all

1260
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: and Fresh Prince.

1261
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: You know, they cracked jokes, but you didn't see gangsters

1262
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: cracking jokes like that Little D's nuts skit.

1263
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Ten year old me thought that was the most.

1264
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: Hilarious shit ever dog, you know what I'm saying, So

1265
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: so that I think that's another legacy of stupid is

1266
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: he kind of you know, he helped ship Phil fill

1267
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: out a bit more right, Like he showed the multi

1268
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: dimensional shiit of of of these rappers.

1269
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: He showed that, you know, yeah, crips cracked jokes too.

1270
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I guarantee you any room

1271
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: you're in, if it's a crip in the room, that's

1272
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: the funniest person in the room. Like I almost promise

1273
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: you that. Like that's why whenever you'd watch like TV

1274
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: shows where there was like or you know, like they

1275
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: do it on like like movies where it's like, oh no,

1276
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: that's the gang member, and it was always like the

1277
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: most serious threatening person, It's like, that is not my

1278
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: experience of people.

1279
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: Are the funniest fucking people in the world. Bro.

1280
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: Uh. The only other thing I wanted to point out

1281
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: you made such an interesting point about like the about

1282
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: weed and chronic and like how central that was to

1283
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: like the specifics of this sound is It's it's interesting, Uh,

1284
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: here's my race bit of the week.

1285
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: It's interesting too.

1286
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: It's interesting to consider the difference in how mushrooms and

1287
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: LSD and molly are considered linked to certain music in

1288
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 3: what I feel is like in a very positive way,

1289
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: even though you know those drugs were illegal, but weed

1290
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: it was always like dangerous, you know what I mean?

1291
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: Or it was like negative that it was like linked

1292
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: to uh to to that music. And I you know,

1293
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 3: obviously a pretty big difference between Snoop Dogg and Pink

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Speaker 3: Floyd racially, but but but it's like that that that

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Speaker 3: like I don't know, I hadn't really thought of that

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Speaker 3: until you pointed that out. But that's like, that's very

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Speaker 3: that's very interesting, right. It's like it's known like the

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Speaker 3: Beatles were experimenting with certain psychedelics when they did some

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Speaker 3: of their music, and that's like cool and part of

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Speaker 3: the lore, and like you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't know even like grandmas and grandpa's might be

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Speaker 3: interested in it.

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Speaker 2: But it was very like you're listening to rap.

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Speaker 3: Music and smoking weed is like smoking dope.

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Speaker 2: Dope. It's not weed, bro, You're talking about crack or

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Speaker 2: that hard I.

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Speaker 4: Wait, with none of that bro, but yeah, we weed

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Speaker 4: was for sure a staple of defunk, like G funk

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Speaker 4: is is just it's so California, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like it the defunk sound just feels like California.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: That's why like Regionalism was like the best ship to

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Speaker 4: ever happened to wrap in my opinion, like you know,

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Speaker 4: the hating that came with that with some bullshit, but

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Speaker 4: you know, I love the distinct sent there.

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Speaker 2: Do you think defunk.

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Speaker 6: Is more California than any other genre music?

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, yes, but I'm black as fucking

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Speaker 1: I listen to mostly hip hop, you know what I

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Speaker 1: mean growing up, So like, is is there another genre.

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Speaker 2: Music that'd be more?

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Speaker 3: I think there's ninety Skies up there, yeah, but ninety

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Speaker 3: scot It hasn't lasted as long though. I do think

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Speaker 3: there's like, uh, there's there's like Ska was popping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people I hear like in movies people talk about

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Speaker 1: Sky and they laugh like I didn't know Sky was?

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Speaker 2: Like ever? What what what's it? What's what's like? How big?

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Speaker 2: No doubt was? No doubt fish?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anything horns in it, It's it's got if it's

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Speaker 3: got horns in it.

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Speaker 2: And it's like a beat. It's but it's it's like.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I didn't just wasn't familiar with the John.

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Speaker 3: I think there's also like a style of like sort

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Speaker 3: of a pop punk like beach sound, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. That's that's very distinct to Southern California. To me,

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Speaker 3: we had a lot of punk bands get famous actually

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Speaker 3: the same way the rap acts from Southern California, Long

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Speaker 3: Beach will get famous through Power one oh six. The

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Speaker 3: punk and pop punk bands will get famous through K rock.

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Speaker 3: Those are the two big radio stations here. You are

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Speaker 3: a K rock sticker on your folder, kid, or a

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Speaker 3: Power one of six stick That was my big social

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01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: statement was I had the K rock and the Power

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Speaker 3: one o six sticker.

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Speaker 2: Ballads cultured man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, But I do think G funk is

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: like I think if you were to play if you

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Speaker 3: were to take someone from Russia and play them SKA music,

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Speaker 3: pop punk like Blink Oney two or something, and G funk,

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Speaker 3: they probably identified G funk as Californian most easily. Someone

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Speaker 3: who doesn't know the history of any.

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Speaker 2: Of those three genres.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because Tiler's right, it does it does sound

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01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: like it in the same way it does to me.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I definitely agree, but I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 3: In the same way that all of Long Beach smells

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Speaker 3: like weed, and I didn't know what weed smell was,

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: and so I was much older, because it's just what

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Speaker 3: everything's all.

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Speaker 2: Right, j'all.

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Speaker 3: That's all the time we got. Thanks for listening. As always,

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Speaker 3: we'll be back on Saturday with another special interview episode,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll have another regular episode on Monday. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for listening, thanks for your community notes, and we'll talk

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Speaker 3: to y'all soon. Bye bye bye The Volume