1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast, AM employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: Episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: loved ones have survived physical doubt and so will we. 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. On our episode today, 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: I want to play a few words from a grandmother 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: recalling her heavenly visit during an nd that she had 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: as a young woman. Also, this past Friday, on our 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: trance medium demonstration with Scott Milligan, someone asked a question 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: about dealing with the pain of grief and the special 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: message that came back from our friend mister Eric and Spirit. Well, 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: it really touched my heart and I wanted to share 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: it with you. But before you hear those, I want 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: you to hear a few words from my friend Lisa Lenuski, 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: longtime listener of the show, whose daughter Amber is in Spirit. 28 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: I've been encouraging Lisa and she just published the book 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: God Winks and Amber Waves, a Mother's Transformative Journey through Grief, 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: love and Purpose. Her book contains signs from her daughter 31 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: God Winks, help through grief, words to communicate with your 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: loved ones, but most especially her journey that I know 33 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: would make a difference with your journey. Here's a few 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: words from a conversation I just had with Lisa. 35 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: So we come from a military family. My husband and 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: I were high school sweethearts. We got married in college 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: and we started off traveling the world with his military career. 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: He was a career officer. It was wonderful, very very 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: normal family. I have two children, my oldest my Amber. 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: The love of my life and my first born. She 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: died in twenty fourteen and sent our very normal family 42 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: in spirals. The story that I put into a book 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: is not so much about Amber, although there's a lot 44 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: about what Amber is doing now, not too much about 45 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: what she did while she was here with me. But 46 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: her death sent me on an incredible search, and the 47 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: universe rewarded every little bit of that search. Things started 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: on the very very first day when we found out 49 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: from the police that our daughter's body had been found. 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: We were at someone else's home at the time. It 51 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: was just my husband and I. We were house sitting, 52 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: pet sitting and standing in the kitchen at the end 53 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: of November. While we are literally I don't know how, 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: we were still on our feet. My husband is looking 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: over my shoulder out the kitchen window, and a red 56 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: tailed hawk came down and sat right on a stone 57 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: wall and just stared in the kitchen window at us. Now, 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: I didn't really understand anything about birds at the time. 59 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: My husband was just absolutely mesmerized, and he was saying, like. 60 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? 61 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: And he takes his phone out of his back pope 62 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: and takes a photo of this, And I am not 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: happy about that. At this moment, I'm looking at him 64 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: like he's lost his marbles. And he said to me, 65 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: do you know how unusual that is? And I said, no, 66 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about He said, I've never seen it. 67 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: He was in his fiftieth time. I've never seen it. 68 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: I've never seen a bird come down a red tail 69 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 4: talk come down like that. Okay, Well it resonated with 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: him and made him feel good for a second. I 71 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: didn't write it down at the time. Obviously I didn't 72 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: know anything about that. But that same day, when we 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 4: were waiting for all of the family to come back 74 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: because they were all on vacation for the holidays and 75 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: were coming back after they got the news, we were 76 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: alone in the house. My husband couldn't lay down, He 77 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 4: just wasn't able to lay into the bed yet, and 78 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: I was the all by myself, and I was awakened 79 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 4: that night by three really distinct and hard knocks that 80 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: were coming from above my head. It actually sounded like 81 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: it was coming from outside of the house, but it 82 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: was really distinct, and it was just three really hard knocks, 83 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 4: and I knew that it was something. I didn't know 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: what it was, but I was like, I've never heard 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 4: this before. This is crazy. So I kind of talked 86 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: to the air, is that you, like, I'd never even 87 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: heard of death knock? Never researched it later on, but 88 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: I never heard it. The following night, I went over 89 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: to my sister's home. The rest of the family had come. 90 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: I needed to kind of get away. I went over 91 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: to my sister's home, where my mom lived at the time, 92 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: and I spent the night with my mom in bed, 93 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: and the exact same thing happened in the middle of 94 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 4: the night, only three knocks. I acknowledged it, and I said, 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: I really think that's you, and that's a little bit 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: intimidating at night like this. I know it's you. You 97 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 4: don't have to do it anymore. And it's never ever 98 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: happened again, no matter where I've been, And it wasn't 99 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: just the knocks. So I don't want to say that 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 4: every little sign or every little thing that happened. It's 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: the feeling that you get when it happens and you 102 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: just know. That's really the only way I can explain it. 103 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: It's just a feeling that you get that I know 104 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: that this is not some random thing that's happening. So 105 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: the first time that I had a phone reading with Suzanne, 106 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: I want to say, I think it was twenty eighteen. 107 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: I was sick at the time. We were just doing 108 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: a zoom meeting just like this, and she was giving 109 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: this evidence. I was in Florida, my husband was in Maine, 110 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: so the three of us kind of zoomed together and 111 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: she was giving us all this evidence and everything was 112 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 4: so very spot on, and she really had the essence 113 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 4: of who my daughter was and who I believe she 114 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: still is because she still has so much of that 115 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: sassy personality. If you tell a mother your daughter was 116 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: really sassy, that either fits or it doesn't. You know, 117 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: if your daughter is a very quiet, little bookworm or 118 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: something like that, that doesn't fit. And you could be funny, 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: but not sassy. Was sassy. And so that word that 120 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: she used, and the way that she described her and 121 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: some of the experiences that she said that she had, 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: all of it was accurate. And we were acquaintances at 123 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: the time. We weren't friends, and she's not looking things 124 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: up about me. But then she started talking about my 125 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 4: daughter's love for frogs, and Amber was a girly girl. 126 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: She was not in the dirt. She was not into frogs, 127 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: and she said, oh my gosh, she has the frogs 128 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: on the bed and the frog's on the shelf. And 129 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, that's not my daughter. And she said, oh, well, 130 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 4: I can't go back on that because I am seeing 131 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: frogs everywhere. I don't know, maybe it's a nickname for 132 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: somebody or whatever. All these great things were coming and 133 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: my crazy mind was thinking, you got that all wrong. 134 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: We ended things after that. The next day she emailed 135 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: me and she said, I'm sorry about yesterday, and I 136 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: want to just give you a little bit of clarify. 137 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: The frog wasn't for you, And she said, occasionally she 138 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: has an interloper who comes into a reading, but it's 139 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: not meant for the person she's sitting with. At the time, 140 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: she didn't give me very much information other than that 141 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: it was a woman who had asked to hear from 142 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: her beloved who had died in a traffic accident, and 143 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: the day of my reading was his first anniversary and 144 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: she had asked to hear from him. And she didn't 145 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: give me any more information about the woman, about anything 146 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: that happened. Nothing. So this was in July, now months 147 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: months later, It's the next year. It's March, and I'm 148 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: online and I'm looking in a newsletter that I received weekly, 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: the Zamat Report, which is also referenced in my book. 150 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: I was looking on there and I saw there was 151 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: a little video on there of a woman who claimed 152 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: to be studying under Susanne Geeseman and her mediumship skills 153 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: were happening really fast for her. And I turned it 154 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: on and I watched it and I listened to her, 155 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, goosebumps from head to toe. 156 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, this is the woman who's 157 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: beloved was in the accident, and I just know it's 158 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: her the way that I know it is. She referred 159 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: to him as Froggy, and she talked about how he 160 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: had died the year before. Now it's almost two years 161 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: and I'm just putting all this together, and I'm thinking, 162 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: do I reach out to this person or is she 163 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: going to think I'm a nut? So that's exactly what 164 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: I did. I found her on social media and I 165 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: just wrote a quick note and said, I am not 166 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: a nut, but I just watched this and I'm just wondering, 167 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: did your fiance die in July of twenty seventeen, and 168 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: she wrote back to me and she's like, are you 169 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: the lady that my froggy came to? She said that 170 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: Suzanne had explained it to her that she had asked 171 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: for known as Scott, she had asked him to please 172 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: come to Suzanne on his first anniversary, just so that 173 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: she'd has some consolation, and he did, but she was 174 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: talking to me at the time, not her, so he came. 175 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: And then shortly after that, Cheryl and I started sharing 176 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 4: all kinds of stories about our loved ones. And I 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: have seen my daughter in video cursing her lips and 178 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 4: throwing me a kiss. I had asked for the wink 179 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: because I did it one time when I was doing 180 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: something with Sonya, and Sonya kept saying, why do you 181 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: want her to blink at you? 182 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: And I said, I don't. 183 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: I want her to wink at me. I keep telling 184 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: her I want her to wink at me, and I 185 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: actually got to see it in video. I got to 186 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: see her winking in video. I got to see her 187 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: kissing in video. I've got to see her looking as 188 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: a toddler. With photos that once I supplied them to Sonia, 189 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: she was just like, oh my gosh, like that's pretty incredible. 190 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: She's only three. Knowing this pictures fantastic area of study. 191 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 4: These lessons are horribly painful, and some of the lessons 192 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: that we're learning through grief, we've never experienced them before, 193 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: and other people are experiencing things that we've never experienced before. 194 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: But I don't believe that there's anything that's been given 195 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 4: to us here that we can't handle. And that's what 196 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: I want to do with the rest of my time 197 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: here is I want to make a difference. And I 198 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 4: feel like I've been doing more in the last ten 199 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: years to make a difference than I did in the 200 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: first fifty plus. And I've lived and I loved, and 201 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: I was a very good and kind person. But these 202 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: lessons that we live after what we think is the 203 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: worst thing that could possibly happen bodily death, the person 204 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: is gone, gone forever. Well, if you believe that the 205 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 4: person is gone forever, you still have to figure out 206 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: how to live without them. So why not just investigate 207 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: a little bit, because one, don't you know that they're 208 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: not gone forever, you're still going to live without them, 209 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: that you're going to live very differently now when Lisa 210 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: talks about seeing Amber. That's through what's called instrumental trans communication. 211 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: You may remember back on episode one hearing the story 212 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: of Sonya Rinaldi and we made that film that's on 213 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: my website called Renaldi. With many of her experiments, Lisa 214 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: is a giver. She has donated five or six years 215 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: working by Sonya Andaldi's side. With all these experiments with parents, 216 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: she's also become a certified grief educator. She's looking for 217 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: stories your godwinks evidence from your loved ones, and she's 218 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: just a fantastic down to earth person. To contact Lisa, 219 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: visit Lisa Lanuski dot com or you can email me 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: Sandra Champlain at Gmail and I can put you in 221 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: touch with Lisa. Well, let's go to the break and 222 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: when we come back, you'll meet a now grandma who 223 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: talks of her near death experience and a surprise visit 224 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: from her grandson in the afterlife. You're listening to Shades 225 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 4: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 226 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 4: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 227 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. Next, we have a story from Jackie. 228 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: It's a powerful account to what happened to her during 229 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: a time she was incredibly vulnerable, and how that experience, 230 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: though initially dismissed by others, planted a seed of knowing 231 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: that completely changed her perspective on life and death. Jackie's 232 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: journey reminds us that sometimes the most profound evidence comes 233 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: not from dramatic lights or tunnels, but from quiet moments 234 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: of peace and recognition. 235 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 5: This was in nineteen eighty six, in April that this 236 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: event happened to me. At that time, I was having 237 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: some physical problems, and I was scheduled to have a 238 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: surgery in the Women's hospital in Lake Charles, Louisiana, where 239 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: I was living at the time. Sometime during the procedure, 240 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: I had this experience happen to me. 241 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Jackie explains that unlike many stories we hear, her experience 242 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: didn't start with bright lights or moving down a tunnel. 243 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: It was simpler, yet just as profound. 244 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 5: I just came to conscious in my mind in this 245 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: big room, and this room was circular, and all around 246 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 5: the walls of this circle were these You could tell 247 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: they were people, they were images, but I could not 248 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: make out anyone's faces. 249 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: They were just images. The only exceptions. 250 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: Were and it was right on my left side there 251 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 5: was my maternal grandmother and I could see her face 252 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: and make out that was her, and standing beside her 253 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 5: was my children's father. 254 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: That's Jackie's ex husband, who had also passed. 255 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: I remember a thought I had, I wonder what he's 256 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: doing here in my whatever this is, but that left 257 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 5: me really quickly. 258 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: I just like, yeah, of course he's here. 259 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: So in this space filled with indistinct figures, Jackie clearly 260 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: recognizes two specific people she knew who had died, her 261 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: grandmother and even her ex husband, but the main focus 262 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: was on someone else. 263 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: The focus of this room, this round room, there was 264 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: this little platform. It was like maybe a few inches high, 265 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: and in the middle this platform was this big wooden 266 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: chair with arms, and in this chair was my dad, 267 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: who had passed away the Christmas before this, so that 268 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 5: would have been Christmas time. 269 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty five. 270 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 5: And I remember that I felt so excited to see him, 271 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 5: and I walked over and I sat down on whatever 272 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 5: this little platform was, and he was sitting in this chair, 273 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 5: and I remember I laid my head down in his lap. 274 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: I just had just the greatest sense of peace. That 275 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: I've ever experienced in my life. 276 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: And the experience wasn't just visual or emotional. It included specific, 277 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: familiar sensory details. 278 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: The only color I could see was this old plaid 279 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: flannel shirt that he had on. There was reds and 280 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: blues and whites. Now, it was one of those things 281 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: like whoever does your law wants to throw it away, 282 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 5: but you insist that they have to keep washing it 283 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 5: so you can wear it. And this was how that 284 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: shirt was. And then there was a smell. There was 285 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 5: a smell of like old spice. I just remember I 286 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: laid my head in his lap and I just said, Dad, 287 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 5: I'm so happy to see you, and I'm so happy 288 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 5: to be here. And he said, I'm happy to see 289 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: you too, honey, and he patted me on the head. 290 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: He said, but you have to know that this is 291 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: not your time and you can't stay. 292 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: You have to go back. 293 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: And I remember that I said something like, oh, but 294 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 5: I'd rather stay here, I says, because this is so wonderful, 295 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: and he said, no, it's just not your time. 296 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: And just like that, the peaceful reunion was over. 297 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember leaving the room. 298 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 5: Then I remembered I could hear these voices of people saying, 299 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 5: miss Lundy, you need to wake up. And when I 300 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: came awake, I said, I. 301 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: Was in the most wonderful place. 302 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 5: And the nurses, of course, looked at me and said, oh, 303 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: miss Lending, that's just the drugs we gave you so 304 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: that the doctor could operate on you. So that happens 305 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 5: to everybody, you have some hallucination or something. 306 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: This is such a common experience, isn't it. Someone has 307 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: the most real, most profound experience of their entire life, 308 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: and the first response they often get is dismissal. It 309 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: really does make people doubt their own experiences. 310 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: So I just let it go. Although it stayed in 311 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: my head for a long time. I may have shared 312 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 5: it with someone I'm not sure, maybe with my sister 313 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 5: somewhere along the line, but I never actually ever heard 314 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 5: of NDEs. I had no knowledge of that until somewhere 315 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: along that line, pre pandemic, I met my friend Rob. 316 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 5: Rob said something about NDEs and I was just fascinated 317 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: because I thought, I wonder if that's what happened to 318 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 5: me sometime over the years. I mentioned that to him 319 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 5: and he said, yes, most definitely. 320 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: But even before she had a name for it. Even 321 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: when the medical staff told her it was just a hallucination, 322 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: the feeling of that experience stayed with Jackie and began 323 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: to change her and give her some unexpected faith. 324 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: I think that when I really accepted and had some 325 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: base understanding of what that was about, that it really 326 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 5: increased my faith because I got into recovery with a 327 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 5: belief that there was a God, but I had no 328 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 5: concept of how I could have any kind of a 329 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: relationship with a God. I always wondered because nobody would 330 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: substantiate that it was real, and so I would sometimes 331 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 5: say it was just a reaction to drugs. 332 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: It was just a hallucination. It wasn't real. 333 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: But even when I couldn't get anyone to confirm that 334 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: it was real, it did change my faith for the better. 335 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 5: Felt absolutely real to me at the time, absolutely real. 336 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: Now I wanted to stay. 337 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: Because it was just the most peaceful place, the most 338 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 5: peaceful event I've ever experienced in my life. There was 339 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: no doubt, there was no fear, there was no sadness, 340 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 5: there was just nothing. It was joy, but it was 341 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: beyond joy, and I think that feeling probably is what 342 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: helped my faith the most is it. That was real 343 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: to me, and I really from that point just said, yes, 344 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: there is something beyond what we put up with and endure. 345 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: And learn in this tough world. 346 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 5: You know that there is a peaceful existence of some sort. 347 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: I started just feeling less fearful. And I was always fearful. 348 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 5: Someday I was going to die and that was it. 349 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 5: There was never ever going to be anything else. But 350 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 5: that experience gave me the aha, there really is something 351 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 5: beautiful beyond this earthly life. 352 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: So Jackie's experience laid a foundation of knowing for her, 353 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: and years later other experiences would build upon that foundation, 354 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: bringing comfort during other times of loss. She had another 355 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: brief dream like visit after her late husband Ron passed 356 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 3: away in two thousand and four, and it was. 357 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: At night also, which made me think was just a dream, 358 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: because it was daytime in the dream and I was 359 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: outside and here comes Ron walking down the street into 360 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 5: my driveway, and the only thing he said to me. 361 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: I don't remember saying anything back to him. He says, 362 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 5: I just came to make sure you were okay. 363 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: That was it. Clearly, this was a short and sweet, 364 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: simple message, but a deeply comforting one for her, and 365 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: then much more recently, in twenty twenty one, he faced 366 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: another heartbreaking loss when her grandson Thomas died at just 367 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: twenty years old from a fentanyl overdose after struggling with addiction. 368 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: This time, the visit was even more profound and brought 369 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: a surprising sense of peace. 370 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 5: After he visited me about ten days after he passed, 371 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 5: I could feel a different kind of gratitude. 372 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: And this was at night. 373 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: I was sleeping and I woke up, and I was 374 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 5: just so overwhelmed with that. I really did feel that, 375 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: beyond a dream, that Thomas had visited me. He was 376 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: just there and he said, Grandma, He said, it is 377 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: so wonderful here. None he was gone, but he wanted 378 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 5: me to know how wonderful it was. 379 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: Hearing that her beloved grandson, Thomas, who had suffered so 380 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: much in his short life, was now in a wonderful 381 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: place brought Jackie an unexpected perspective. 382 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 5: I've had more thinking about Thomas and the experience I 383 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: had in my years with him and his visitation to me, 384 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: instead of thinking why did this happen to happen to him? 385 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: And I never voiced this to my family because I'm 386 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: not quite sure how my son would take this, but 387 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 5: I had this sense of gratitude that he did not 388 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: have to suffer anymore. And beyond that, I had this 389 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: sense of gratitude that his father and his mother and 390 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 5: his little sister no longer had to live a life 391 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 5: that was controlled by Thomas's addiction. I got very grateful 392 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: for that. Because the morning after Thomas died, and I'm 393 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: sitting out on my son's back porch and we're drinking 394 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: our coffee watching the sun come up. I said to him, 395 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: I said, honey, did you get any sleep last night 396 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 5: at all? He says, Mom, it's the strangest thing. He said, 397 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 5: I slept better than I have slept in years. And 398 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 5: I realized this morning when I woke up rested instead 399 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: of exhausted, that I had not slept with my hand 400 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 5: on my phone all night, waiting for the next Thomas trauma. 401 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 5: And he said, and I realized I had not done that. 402 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: He said, today is Thomas's first day of sobriety in heaven. 403 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: And I said, yeah, honey, that's so true. So that 404 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: helped my faith when I could really know that this 405 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: young man that he knew he was okay. I mean, 406 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: my children's father, my grandmother and my father were older. 407 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 5: The fact that they were no longer here and that 408 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: they were in this place was not strange to me 409 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 5: to say, because it's normal because of their age, where 410 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: Thomas was a young man who was twenty years old, 411 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 5: so it was not normal. But I got that piece 412 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 5: with that also and just really help my faith more. 413 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: Jackie's story shows us that these experiences really do build 414 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: on each other. Her Nde comforted her in the later 415 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: visitations from her husband and grandson, helped her faith and 416 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: her peace. And isn't that what this evidence is all 417 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: about for us, finding that inner certainty that love never 418 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: dies and even our deepest suffering can be met with 419 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: understanding and grace from the other side. Will be right 420 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: back with some words on grief and how close our 421 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: loved ones are from a friend in the Afterlife. You're 422 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife and the iHeartRadio and 423 00:25:47,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to 424 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. There are three 425 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: things that keep me really connected to the reality of 426 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: the afterlife. Because I too am a human. I don't 427 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: think We're designed to remember the bigger picture twenty four 428 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: hours a day, seven days a week, that we are 429 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: these immortal, divine souls having a human experience. I think 430 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 3: there is this game called life mostly painful. I understand that, 431 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: but it's an opportunity for our soul to learn and 432 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: to experience. But how do I stay plugged in? Well, 433 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: one of the biggest things is being right here with 434 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: you each and every week doing my investigation, finding a 435 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: new topic or a new story for you, because I'm 436 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: hoping they keep you engaged and open minded about the 437 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: reality of the afterlife and that your loved ones are 438 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: still around. Of course, I hope to entertain you a 439 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: little bit too sometimes. One of the other things I 440 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 3: love is our free Sunday gathering two pm at New 441 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: York time, every single Sunday going into our sixth year. 442 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: Now why this is important to me is it's inspirational 443 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: and empowering. Yes, but there's a medium demonstration in everyone, 444 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: and I'm blown away by the evidence that comes through 445 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: our mediums to people all over the world that there's 446 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: no way they can know. Not general comments or evidence, 447 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: but really specific things that often move me to tears. 448 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: The third thing is. On many Fridays we offer what's 449 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: called in the Arms of Eternity. You can come for 450 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: free send distant healing to the world. But also it's 451 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: a demonstration of trance mediumship, where medium Scott Milligan will 452 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: close his eye and after quite a while, another voice 453 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: comes to speak through him. For six years now, mister Eric, 454 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: who speaks through Scott, never misses a beat, never hesitates, 455 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 3: filled with love and compassion, can answer just about every 456 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: question thrown at him about life, death, and afterlife. People 457 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: type their questions in the Q and A box on Zoom. 458 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm the only one who can see them. Scott's eyes 459 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 3: are closed, and mister Eric not only can often know 460 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: the next question to be asked, but knows the person 461 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 3: who's going to ask it. It really helps me on 462 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: a weekly basis, remember that we're all divine souls having 463 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: a human experience. This question was asked this past week 464 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: and it really hit a place in my heart that 465 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: I knew I had to share it with you. The 466 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 3: question was what advice can you give to people who, 467 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: despite trying their hardest, are still struggling with grief after 468 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: two years. Here's mister Eric, Well. 469 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: Two years is still too short. You'll know, my friend, 470 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 6: the advice I would give you, which may mean nothing 471 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 6: to many, but may have something for you for as 472 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 6: you reminisce of your photographs on your devices as well 473 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 6: as what was gathered through boxes. Remember the happier times, 474 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 6: my friend. But know that when you gaze upon this, 475 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 6: there is an arm around you. There is laughter all 476 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 6: around you, the gasp of breath and the sound of ah. 477 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 6: Do you remember this? It may cause you to weep, 478 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 6: my friends, because you feel the tremendous love, but you 479 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 6: feel it as overwhelming grief. I have often said, and 480 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 6: I may have to remind you all if it was 481 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 6: you who has come to our side of life, and 482 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 6: to you it has only been a brief moment. But 483 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: to those who are left behind, may years have passed 484 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 6: and you see them broken, or you see them stop living. 485 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: What would you say back to them? What would be 486 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 6: your sage that you would give them? You would shout 487 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 6: in their ear, you would wave in their face, you 488 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 6: would embrace them, because that's exactly what your loved one 489 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 6: is doing back to you now. They are trying to 490 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: remind you that only their pain has faded away. If 491 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 6: you are to travel they will travel with you. If 492 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 6: you are to place a drink out for them, they 493 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 6: will sit in your company, even though that the glass 494 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 6: may still remain full. They are experiencing the generosity the 495 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 6: same when you place flowers, they receive that kindness. But 496 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: as you stare upon the etchings on the stone, they 497 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 6: stare into your eyes and say, that is not me. 498 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 6: This is not where I stand or lay. I come 499 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 6: with you live, and through the music that you hear 500 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: that reminds you of us, Through a sense of cologne 501 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 6: and perfume, you sense our presence because it causes memories 502 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 6: to come back. Holding on to the very thing that 503 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 6: brushed hair, It is not them, but it reminds you 504 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 6: of them. If I could lend you of the sight 505 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 6: that I have, you will never question or weep again. 506 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 6: Your room that seems empty to you is full of 507 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 6: people that love you. Try to hold on to that, 508 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 6: my friend. But also, even though we can give you 509 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 6: spiritual counseling, you must also as of someone in your 510 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 6: world that can help you to make sense. And this 511 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 6: is why we always say it is a partnership between 512 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 6: our world and yours. We will look after your loved 513 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 6: one as long as your world looks after each other. 514 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 6: We have held on to our promise to you. Now 515 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 6: allow your world to fulfill that promise. That would be 516 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 6: my advice to you to know that your loved one 517 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 6: stands with you, not with me, even though we look 518 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 6: after them. Our love permeates like perfume. They know they've 519 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 6: never left, but they are just too bright for your 520 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 6: eyes to see at the moment. And that is why, 521 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 6: my friend, when you are in bed, you become aware 522 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 6: in your dreams you stand with them. But then you 523 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 6: are reminded when you wake. Let your life be the 524 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 6: testament that you have known true love. But now live 525 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 6: your life. You have often liked seen the joy in 526 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 6: other people. If you see joy now, then it is 527 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 6: your loved one speaking with you. Live and I will 528 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 6: live with you. Dance, I will dance with you. Sing 529 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 6: and I will sing badly with you. And I will 530 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 6: sit and I will walk, and I will rest with you. 531 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 6: This is a message for all of you. This is 532 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 6: why your world is in deep need to now wake 533 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 6: up and see through the spiritual. 534 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 7: Eyes that our world is the reality, and your world 535 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 7: will join our. 536 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 6: World through the journey of life. I will leave you 537 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 6: now with the blessings of all who gather at this time, 538 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 6: wipe away the tears of sadness, allow the clouds of 539 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 6: confusion to fade, and know that we are tevered to 540 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 6: one another through the ecx of love, through the acts 541 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 6: of kindness. We will never let go. Even know that 542 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 6: sometimes your world chooses to take care and sleep with ease, 543 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 6: and know that our world walks with you. Good day 544 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 6: to you, my friends. 545 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: His words really mean a lot to me, and over 546 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 3: all these years he's become a good friend. I said 547 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 3: that sometimes Eric acts as a medium. Not too long ago, 548 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: our friend Ramona had a question and he answered it 549 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: whatever it was. But he also told her to buy 550 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: a pair of slippers for her feet that had a 551 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: solid non skid coding on the bottom because a friend 552 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: in the spirit world saw her slip and fall. I 553 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 3: thought this was really weird because I asked the question 554 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: on behalf of Ramona and there was no sign anything 555 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: about slippers or her feet or her falling. Ramona left 556 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 3: me a message after the sitting that her sister was 557 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 3: a foot doctor and just the day before she had 558 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: gone out to buy a new pair of slippers because 559 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: she had slipped and fallen wearing her old slippers. She 560 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: almost bought a pair that didn't have the non skid coating, 561 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: but she thought better of herself and this was confirmation 562 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: from somebody in the spirit world, which Ramona believes. It's 563 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: one hundred percent her deceased sister who can see Ramona 564 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: in Germany and talk to Sandra in the United States 565 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: through a trance medium in England. When we get back 566 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: from the break, we'll take a look at being in 567 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: communication with our loved one through the advice of evidential 568 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: medium Dominic Bogue. We'll be right back. You're listening to 569 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Cost to 570 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of 571 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and just a reminder, my 572 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: home base is we Don't Die dot Com. I mentioned 573 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: the Sunday gathering. It's one of the best ways I 574 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: stay connected. The next recording I'm going to play is 575 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: from Scottish medium Dominic Bogue. This past Sunday on our gathering, 576 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: I gave the reading about psychology professor doctor Matt McKay 577 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: and how he communicates with his son and using automatic writing. 578 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: You can go back to episode two to nine to 579 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 3: hear that Dominic is a young medium who has been 580 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: demonstrating since he was a teenager, and I think he's 581 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: one of the best around. So enjoy his thoughts on 582 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: communicating with our own loved ones. 583 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 8: Especially coming up for holidays, Christmas and New Year coming up. 584 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 8: That's one of the most challenges parts of the years, 585 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 8: is when we miss our loved ones just that little 586 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 8: bit more. And a lot of people, especially as a medium, 587 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 8: that's a question I get asked a lot, is how 588 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 8: can I feel my loved ones more? How can I 589 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 8: communicate with them? How is it easy for you as 590 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 8: a medium but difficult for me. I always say to 591 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 8: people as a medium, please do not be under the 592 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 8: illusion that I have the golden telephone to contact my 593 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 8: people in the spirit world a lot easier than what 594 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 8: it is for you. I always say to them, it's 595 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 8: actually easier for me as a medium to communicate with 596 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 8: your loved ones than it is for me. And why 597 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 8: Sandra said it when she was telling us about the Professor, 598 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 8: that one word doubt, Because if I meet someone for 599 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 8: the very first time as a stranger, then the information 600 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 8: that I'm receiving. I trust it's coming from them. Whereas 601 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 8: if I'm wanting to maybe connect with my father and 602 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 8: I may she have a name John, I'm going to 603 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 8: doubt that because it's my dad's name. I know it's 604 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 8: my dad's name. Is it what I know? Is it 605 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 8: just what I want to feel? So then I, damn 606 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 8: it didn't really work, did it? And that kind of sucks, 607 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 8: doesn't it? But here is the thing. Throughout my life 608 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 8: as a medium, I have went to a place of 609 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 8: questioning to actually knowing that there's life after death and 610 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 8: knowing that we can communicate. 611 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 6: With the other world. 612 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 8: And I spent some time just trying to see if 613 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 8: there's other ways that maybe I could have influences from 614 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 8: my people in the sport world without me actually trying. 615 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 8: Something that I did many years ago when I first 616 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 8: started to develop my mediumship is I had written a 617 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 8: letter to my father because I found it easier to 618 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 8: write rather than to maybe sit in the silence, So 619 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 8: it was easier for me to write it. But what 620 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 8: I started to realize when I was writing my letter 621 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 8: to my dad, my words and my feelings started to move, 622 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 8: and it took me to a place that I didn't 623 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 8: intentionally set out to go. So I then started to 624 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 8: believe that was me perhaps becoming a little bit more 625 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 8: aware of my father in the spirit world coming closer 626 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 8: to me. And this is something that I get lots 627 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 8: of my students to do, and I would encourage you 628 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 8: to do that, but I would encourage you to do 629 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 8: it in a way of I guess you could say, 630 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 8: testing the spirit world and also proving to yourself, because 631 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 8: I know you all, I sit there with doubt when 632 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 8: you asked for signs. Did that feather really come from 633 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 8: my loved one? Or is it because the cat has 634 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 8: killed another burden? So you doubt it, And when you 635 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 8: doubt it, then you move away from believing it. So 636 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 8: when you write, what I would encourage you to do 637 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 8: is write your letter and maybe put some questions in it, 638 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 8: and fold it up, maybe put it in your bedside 639 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 8: drawer or in your pocket book or your handbag, and 640 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 8: carry it with you, and before you know it, you 641 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 8: probably will have forgotten your letter. But then you may 642 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 8: begin to become aware of the answers of it. So naturally, 643 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 8: but I says to you, going to help you understand 644 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 8: or figure a way of moving from is it my imagination. 645 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 8: Am I feeling what I want to feel? Is it 646 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 8: coming from me rather than them? And as in medium, 647 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 8: I spent many years trying to figure out how the 648 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 8: spirit world are communicating with me. But one thing I 649 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 8: started to realize is this is crazy. But I receive 650 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 8: a very weird shiver. And this very weird shiver tells 651 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 8: me that I am very connected with the spirit and 652 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 8: it's almost on my right hand side. And that's when 653 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 8: I know any thoughts, any visions, any feelings, any smells 654 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 8: to whatever is in fact not coming from dominic but 655 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 8: coming from the Spirit. As you sit in silence, get 656 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 8: yourself in a place you feel safe and a place 657 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 8: that you could feel maybe quiet, Send that fought out, 658 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 8: send that fort out to the spirit world. Dad, I 659 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 8: am here for you. Come closer to me, allow me 660 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 8: to feel you once again. It's not going to happen overnight, 661 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 8: is it not won Because we're going to need to 662 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 8: ever so gently reprogram how we are starting to look 663 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 8: at the relationship. But I guarantee you, through time, you 664 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 8: will maybe become aware of that gentle touch from the spirit. 665 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 8: Like I said, my crazy, wacky little shiver, but it's 666 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 8: in my face enough that I know one hundred trillion, 667 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 8: billion million percent that I'm connected with spirit. Maybe you 668 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 8: need something like that. Maybe you need to take a 669 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 8: moment to shift your awareness from I to them and 670 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 8: ask them to come close and give you your physical 671 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 8: sign that you know that they're very much with you. 672 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 8: Why would your loved ones not come and be around you? 673 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 8: Why would say not come and want to embrace you 674 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 8: and let you feel them. Sometimes it's just about us 675 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 8: moving out of our way and giving an opportunity for 676 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 8: them to come close. In today's society, life moves very quick. 677 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 8: There's always something to do, and I ask you, do 678 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 8: we really actually dedicate enough time for us to actually 679 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 8: feel that gentle touch with our loved ones. I really 680 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 8: don't think we do. Another thing I would encourage you 681 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 8: to do if you want to try, is start to 682 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 8: write journal all the things that you would want to 683 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 8: say to them that day, that week, and do it 684 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 8: before you go to bed. Maybe take ten minutes before 685 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 8: you turn your light off at night to write a 686 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 8: little conversation to your loved ones and ask them, at 687 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 8: the end of every conversation, please visit me in my 688 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 8: dreams and see if we can continue this conversation gently 689 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 8: given then the permission to come close to you and 690 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 8: your dreams as well. I loved also, like Sandra shared 691 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 8: with us with the Professor, he held his son's card. 692 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 8: He held something that has an emotional and also a 693 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 8: physical connection. Some of you may still have beautiful things 694 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 8: belonging to your loved ones as well, and I encourage 695 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 8: you to hold it, hold whatever it may be, and 696 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 8: talk to it and listen. If anyone says you're crazy 697 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 8: for talking to a hat or a scar, or a 698 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,959 Speaker 8: ren or a piece of jewelry, but you tell them 699 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 8: to come and see me and I'll show them how 700 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 8: crazy it is. But talk to them. Because your loved 701 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 8: ones can hear you. They also can hear and receive 702 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 8: your thoughts as well. So even if it feels like 703 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 8: maybe you're talking to yourself or no one's listening, I 704 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 8: promise you they are listening. Also, going back to the 705 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 8: writing and the conversations, write some of the memories that 706 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 8: you have shared together down and watch and see if 707 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 8: maybe the memory becomes more deeper, or you remember things 708 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 8: from that day or that time that maybe they are 709 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 8: then influencing you with their thoughts of that memory. Also 710 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 8: see if you remember other memories that are attached to that, 711 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 8: and just trust that through their consciousness, through their physical thoughts, 712 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 8: they're reaching yours as well. Many of you are always 713 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 8: looking for signs from your loved ones feather was it 714 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 8: the eleven? The eleven? And sometimes you will find yourself doubting. 715 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 8: Why not try asking your loved ones as you sit, 716 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 8: maybe with a cup of coffee in the morning, Hey, dad, 717 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 8: can you make your sound be a clown this week? 718 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 8: Or hey, rather than the pennies, can you show me 719 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 8: more times? Or can you show me fireworks? Rather than 720 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 8: looking for a needle in a haystack that maybe your 721 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 8: loved ones are trying really hard to show you you're 722 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 8: missing because well maybe you don't know what to look for. 723 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 8: Maybe you gently give them a suggestion of can you 724 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 8: show me this? Or can you show me that? Or 725 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 8: can you remind me of that song? I guess what 726 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 8: I'm really trying to say is there's many ways that 727 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 8: we can attempt to communicate with our loved ones. There 728 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 8: is a library of different ways out there. But I 729 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 8: encourage you for and foremost to find your crazy shiver. 730 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 8: I know our good friends Scott calls it the tingle. 731 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 8: So go out there, take time out for you to 732 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 8: find when your environment or your energy shifts, when your 733 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 8: loved ones are a little bit more closer to you. 734 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 8: But always remember the key is love. The cancer may 735 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 8: have died, or the heart issue may have died, or 736 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 8: the stroke condition may have died. But ladies and gentlemen, 737 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 8: I promise you your loved one did not die. They maybe 738 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 8: just got a special invitation to a big VIP party 739 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 8: that you're just not ready to go to yet. And 740 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 8: one day you will, but for now, let's give them 741 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 8: the permission or the invitation for them sometimes to come 742 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 8: to our party here in our life as well. 743 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, dominic. I always welcome you and invite you 744 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 3: who come to our free Sunday gathering, but I may 745 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 3: not have ever told you. On the Sunday gathering page 746 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 3: at we Don't Die dot com, you can watch past replays. 747 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 3: Our human machinery forgets that we are divine souls having 748 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 3: a human experience, so it's important to stay involved. Read 749 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 3: a good book. You can have a copy of my 750 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: book right there on the front page of my website. 751 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 3: We've got a couple of movies coming out. You'll find 752 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 3: them at the bottom of the page. Come join me 753 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 3: at one of Scott's in the Arms of Eternities, or 754 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: watch one of the replays. I'm here for you, my friend, 755 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 3: and as always, from the bottom of my heart, thank 756 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 3: you for engaging in this conversation and listening to Shades 757 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 758 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 3: AM Paranormal podcast Network. 759 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 760 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 761 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 762 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com.