1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Charles w Chuck Bryant, Jerry's here, and the three of 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: us when you put us together, smell like cotton candy. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Little known fact about Stuff you should Know. 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: You know what? I gave my daughter cotton candy, first 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: time she's ever had it, candy floss, just a couple 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: of weeks ago at the zoo. I was like, you 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: never had cotton candy. I was like, give me some 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: of that. I want to see. I haven't had it 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: in so long. And boy, it's just that the nostalgic 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: blast of that stuff melting on your tongue. Did not 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: enjoy it. 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: I was like, Jesus, oh really, no, it's a gross 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: web flavor. Was it like regular cotton candy flavor? Do 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: they try to? Okay, the blue is the same as 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: the pink. I don't like where this is going. 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: We had a cotton candy machine as a kid growing up, 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: A little do it at home deal. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: What yeah, okay, money bags? 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah no, trust me, this is like a five ninety 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: nine years item. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure did you have the Snoopy Snowcome machine too. 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: No. See, we couldn't afford that because I had a 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: name brand. I think you and I were both very 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: famous for having very unbranded childhoods. 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: It's true, but we didn't have any kind of cotton 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: candy machine. 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were generic family kids. 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: So what about your cotton candy machine and your kid? 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: Did you overdo it? Is that what you're saying? 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just wanted to throw that in there. 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: I wanted to show off. 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I told Ruby that I had one when I was 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: a kid. She's like, really, yeah, And I said, yeah. 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: It was gross and it only made white candy. 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Oh so it didn't taste at all. 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: No, just spin this. The taste doesn't come from the 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: food coloring. 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that that's true. Should we talk about 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: smell of vision? Yeah, okay, I forgot. We hadn't even 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: mentioned it yet. We're talking about smellovision, which is exactly 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: what it sounds like. It was a really neat, interesting 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: gimmick that was tried in the beginning the advent of 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties. Most people say where they tried to 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: accompany motion pictures with smells in the exact same way 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: that they accompany motion pictures with sounds. That's right, Like 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: you put sound in moving pictures together. It's just so intuitive, 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: and it's come so far that the world that we 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: live in, you can't really imagine it. Otherwise, even if 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: you've seen the artist, it's still tough to imagine. Right. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: They were trying to do that but with sense, and 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: this is the first attempt, and unfortunately it was not 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: a very successful attempt, which is why we don't have 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: smell a vision today. 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: That's right. Dave old Pell helps us out with this, 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: and this is kind of a fun surprise. One of 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: our old house Stuff Works writers. Patrick didn't work in 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the office with this, but he was one of our 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: longtime freelancers. Patrick Kaiger wrote a book like eighteenish years 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: ago called Poplarica Colon a popular history of the fads, Mavericks, 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: inventions and lore that shaped modern America. Yeah, and I 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: think did such a good job with the smellvision section 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: that La Times writer Martin J. Smith again like seventeen 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: or eighteen years ago, wrote an article about smellvision and 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: used Patrick's book a lot. So we also relied on 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: this stuff, and it was I want to check out 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: that book. It sounds cool. 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very good article or chapter I guess 70 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: that they excerpted in. It's basically the definitive story of 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: smell avision because it's such a it's such a narrow story. 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: There's a few characters, and it happened in like this 73 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: really narrow time frame. It's just it has a story. 74 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: It's one of those those topics. It just has its 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: own story, you know. 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And we'll get into the story story. But 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the first movie that they used it on that we'll 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: touch on later, was called Scent of Mystery, And you know, 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: you get the idea. They would pipe in like you know, 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: someone was smoking a pipe, they would pipe in the 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: smell of tobacco smoke. Or if someone was like in 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: a basement, they would pipe in some kind of dusty basement. 83 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: He smell mellow cadavers. 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: Usually it was something hopefully kind of nice, like there 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: was a peach orchard in a scene, and they piped 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: in peach smells and things like that. But like you said, 87 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: it was not a big hit at all. Yeah, I 88 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: think Time did you mention that that Time named it 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: one of the worst fifty inventions. 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And This is along with DDT, Agent Orange and 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: the baby cage. So that was that's really saying something. 92 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: What else recently was on that list? 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Our live show? No, yeah, our live show the topic 94 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: of our lives shows on the ideas of the century. 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: I thought you meant our live show was one of 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the worst inventions in the last fifteenth or the last 97 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: hundred years. That was a good joke. 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: It was a good joke, unintentional but still pretty good. 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, our secret topic for the live show 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: that you're exactly right. 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just gave away that if you go look 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: at that list of one hundred worse ideas of the 103 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: century from time, you will stumble across our topic, but 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: you may not know that that's it. 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's not somemellvision. No, so then 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: you narrowed it down a bit. 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, now you've got ninety nine other chances. 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: So a company coming up with a signature scent is 109 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: a big thing these days, Like we don't want to 110 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: underestimate scent as a as a sense because it's very powerful. Yeah, 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: there are very famous signature scents of like hotels and 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: stores and stuff like that. But as far as using 113 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: odor to tie it to entertainment. They were doing this 114 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: in stage plays at least in the eighteen hundreds, and 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: I would bet before that even. 116 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Sure, apparently they like theater owners would would basically do 117 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: what they could to kind of make the whole scene 118 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: that you were seeing being portrayed just that much more 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: realistic by incorporating smell along with sites and sounds. Right, 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: they didn't want you to touch the actors and you 121 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: weren't allowed to lick the actors. So those were the 122 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: three that they were allowed to work with. Yeah, and 123 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: it's it's understandable why because I mean, if you think 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: about it, like you were saying, like scent is a 125 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: very powerful sense that if you could tap into that correctly, 126 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: you could really blow someone's mind with a stage production 127 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: and eventually a movie. And that was the basis of 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: this whole thing. In retrospect, it was gimmicky, it's silly, 129 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: it's mid century. Yeah, it has a name like Smell 130 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: a Vision, But if you really dig down into the story, 131 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: you find like this is a really earnest, genuine project 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: that was meant to just completely transform filmmaking for the better. 133 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean said earlier, they thought it was going 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: to be the next revolution, like adding sound, which is 135 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of funny, like, this isn't something that appeals to me, 136 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: even though we'll get to four D later on and 137 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: talk about that. But the first movie theater to try 138 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: anything like this in the United States was in Forest City, Pennsylvania. 139 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: It was called the Family Theater and it was owned 140 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: by Roxy Rothafel. 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: And ironically, it was a pornography theater, right. 142 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: That was it. 143 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: It is gullible day for you. 144 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: That was the last episode, and I'm still gullible. 145 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 2: Can you imagine a Triple X theater called the Family Theater? 146 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: That was the joke I was thinking from Roxy, like 147 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: triple X. I gotcha, and I totally missed it. I'm 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: off my game. 149 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: Hey, it's okay man. As a matter of fact, I'll 150 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: just retract that whole thing. 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: No, I get it. That's a great name for a theater, Chuck, 152 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: the Family Theater now showing deep throat exactly all right. 153 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: So the Family Theater was owned by Roxy Rothefel, and 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: Roxy is someone we talked about in our Rocketes episode 155 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: because this person would go on to open up the 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Radio City Music Hall and the Rockets were originally called 157 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the roxy Ettes, but in nineteen o eight he owned 158 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: the Family Theater and got a newsreel in nineteen sixteen 159 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: about the Rose Bowl Parade and said, Hey, I'm going 160 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: to pump the smell of rose oil into this theater 161 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: and fan it in there. And that was sort of 162 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: the first little attempt at something like this. 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, I think that was kind of 164 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: one of the things when they added like interior ventilation systems, 165 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Like people figured out you can not only move air 166 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: around the theater pretty quickly, you can move sense around 167 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: the theater. So in very short order, other theaters started 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: trying the same thing. There was a theater in Boston 169 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty nine, there was a Detroit theater in 170 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: nineteen forty three, and it just kind of sporadically was 171 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: attempted at. But it wasn't until a guy named Hans 172 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Lob That's what I'm going with, who was Swiss, who 173 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: was an inventor and an osmologist, which is somebody who 174 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: studies the science of smells. And it wasn't until he 175 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: came along with somebody said I'm making this work. I'm 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: going to make this happen and really like dedicated himself 177 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: to it. 178 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. He had made his name removing smells. I'm not 179 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: sure what chemicals he used. 180 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: I was looking all over for it. 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: Well, these days a use stuff like ozone, which. 182 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: Is not good at all. 183 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you, man, someone stole our car like. 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: Three years ago. 185 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I remember that and basically just joy road and wrecked 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: it for a few days and it smelled like smoked 187 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: three thousand cigarettes in the span of three days. Yeah, 188 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: and we got that thing back and that's all the 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: entrance company. I was like, man, I don't care what 190 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: you do, We're not taking this car back. There's no 191 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: way it's ever going to smell the same again, right, 192 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: And they said, oh, we use an ozone treatment and 193 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: it didn't smell like cigarette smoke, but it smelled funky 194 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: after that, and we fought tooth and nail with him. 195 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, we can't drive around like this. 196 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: Ozone has its own smell, and it's also super reactive 197 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: and you don't want to breathe it in. Luckily has 198 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: a very short like lifespan, but it's you don't want 199 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: to be around ozone. 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: Basically, No, that car is not in our family anymore. 201 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: By the way, it had bad energy after that, so 202 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: we didn't want any part of it. 203 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, that's pretty understandable. I can totally see that. Yeah, so, yeah, 204 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: I guess he was doing ozone too. That was what 205 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: I came up with with that. 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was using chemicals to remove odors, 207 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: and then he said, hey, I could reverse this whole 208 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: thing and add odors into movie theaters and debuted that 209 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: idea at the thirty nine to forty World's Fair in 210 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: New York with his partner Robert Barthis, and they had 211 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: a thirty five minute fild called a film called My 212 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: Dream or Mine Troum I guess it was in German, 213 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: and they had thirty two different chemical odors that they 214 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: pumped out during this thirty five minute film. Yeah, that's 215 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: almost a smell a minute. Yeah, And he called it scentovision, 216 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: which is much nicer than smellovision for sure. I mean 217 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: they're both kind of goofy. 218 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: Apparently it generally worked too. The New York Times, which 219 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: would become one of the biggest critics I guess of smellovision, 220 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: later on, endorsed it. This was back in the Yeah, 221 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine, nineteen forty years before it actually was 222 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: attempted in a feature film, but they said that they 223 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: called it a smellie instead of a talkie, and they 224 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: said that, you know, some of it worked. I think 225 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: bacon didn't work very well, but incense worked really well. 226 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: It was very convincing, and I guess they had the 227 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: timing down and all that. But the projecttionist was actually 228 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: running not just the film but also the scent emissions 229 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: as well. 230 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: He was chief wafter Yeah, all right, maybe we should 231 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: take a break. Oh, okay, and we'll come back talk 232 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: about more smells right after this. All right, So how 233 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: did you pronounce the name lob or lobby? 234 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: Lob Lob. 235 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Had a semi successful debut at the Scent Division, but 236 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: no one jumped on this, saying it was about ten 237 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: years before anyone really cared to do any more exploration 238 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: because of a funny thing that happened over the course 239 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: of World War Two. Before the war, movies were a 240 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: very big deal. After the war, movies were still a 241 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: big deal, but TV had come along by that point, right, 242 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: and sort of like the you know, theater owners now 243 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: being worried about people just streaming everything at home. They 244 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: were worried that people are just going to watch TV now, 245 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: so they wanted to up the ante in the in 246 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: viewing in person experience in the theater and smell a 247 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: vision was one of those first ideas. 248 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they did another one. I can't remember. I think 249 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: the movie was called The Chiller, but the producer installed 250 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 2: electric shocks into the movie theater seats from the patrons. 251 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: I can't remember what he called it. It was like 252 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 2: that age where they needed to do something that he 253 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: just couldn't possibly do at home. And Michael Todd is 254 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: he actually wasn't the guy who really was like, Okay, 255 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: we're going to make this work. Michael Todd Junior was 256 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: the guy who ended up making it work. But his father, 257 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: Michael Todd Sr. Who I saw this random bit of 258 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: trivia a website called in seventy millimeter dot com which 259 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: is about the movie biz. Yeah, and he the author 260 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: said that Michael Todd Senior, he was born Evram Hirsch Goldbogan. 261 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: He was Polish and he adopted his son's name. So 262 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: Michael Todd Junior came before Michael Todd Senior. Isn't that interesting? 263 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: That is super interesting and very strange, But. 264 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: The outside of it is. Michael Todd was a producer. 265 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: He was at first a vaudeville producer, then a Broadway producer, 266 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: and he eventually became a film producer. 267 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: That's right, And he was he's best known if you've 268 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: ever seen Todd AO. At the end of the film, 269 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: he kind of helped pioneer the seventy millimeter format. Yeah, 270 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: and and cinerama scope. It's a it's a widescreen format. 271 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: It's it's probably a whole episode or short stuff on itself. 272 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: But Todd AO as a company is still around, I 273 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: think in some capacity. But a very sort of invent 274 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: to enterprising guy basically. And like you said, he came 275 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: knocking around Hollywood eventually after his Broadway run, and they 276 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: right out of the gate had a very very big 277 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: hit with a movie called Around the World in Eighty Days. Yeah, 278 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: and almost used this movie as the big debut for Smellvision, 279 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: but decided not to feel like kind of at the 280 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: last minute. 281 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and very wisely too, because so Michael Todd Junior 282 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: and senior, this is their first film production and they 283 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: won the Oscar for Best Picture for that year nineteen 284 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: fifty seven. It beat out Giant with Rock Hudson, James Dean, 285 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: and Liz Taylor. Michael Todd was seated next to Liz 286 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: Taylor because they'd just gotten married a couple months before. 287 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: When his movie beat Hers for the Best Picture, they 288 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: also beat Ten Commandments, So it was like a big 289 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: deal that these essentially outsiders had just walked in, produced 290 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: such a great movie and won Best Oscar. He didn't 291 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: live very long after that. He died in a plane crash, 292 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: I think the next year, in nineteen fifty eight. Yeah, 293 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: but his son just carried on the mantle. They were 294 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: like actual collaborators, so there was just no question whether 295 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: Michael Todd Junior was going to continue on. But I 296 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: get the impression that Junior was more into the idea 297 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: of Smell a Vision than Senior was, because it wasn't 298 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: until after Senior died that Junior said I'm gonna make 299 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: this happen. 300 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: That's right. So he got in touch with Loub and said, 301 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: let's do this one movie. Let's give it a shot. 302 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be called Scent of Mystery. We're gonna have 303 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: all sorts of you know, something that kind of bugs me. 304 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a big three D guy. It bugs me 305 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: when they do shots that you can tell, like when 306 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: you see the two D version, it's like they did 307 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: that thing coming at the screen clearly, just as a 308 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: sort of like a three D gimmick. 309 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Like Friday the Thirteenth Part three did that a lot. 310 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even modern three D movies do it 311 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot. I feel like they'll, you know, have a 312 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: couple of shots there where it's like something is flying 313 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: right at the camera and you're just in two D. 314 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, you know they did that just for 315 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: the three D. 316 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have to say in that movie, they did 317 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: a good job with it, like Kevin Bacon's playing with 318 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: the yo yo and the shots from underneath and the 319 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: yoyo is coming like right at you. 320 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Wait, he was in the first one, wouldn't he. 321 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: He was in the third one. He's dude, he's the 322 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: guy who does the I think he's the guy doing 323 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: the handstand who gets like cut in half from the 324 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: bottom up by Jason with a machete. 325 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I thought he's in the first one. 326 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm almost positive he's hand saying. 327 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: Guy, handstand guy. 328 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: Uh huh? 329 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: Is that his credit? 330 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 331 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: That'd be pretty great. 332 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, he could have been in the 333 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: first one, two's in everything of course. 334 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: Oh well you don't. You're not in multiple ones unless 335 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: you're Jason because you get packed. 336 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: Up, right Jason or Corey Feldman? 337 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: Right? Was he the one of us? 338 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: He was in like five or six I think. 339 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I only saw a couple of those. Uh. Anyway, 340 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: that's what they did with Scent of Mystery is they 341 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: added all kinds of little gags in there to sort 342 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: of take place to time out with the smells, which, 343 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, you can't blame them. If they're trying to 344 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: debut this new thing, they wanted to, you know, really 345 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: incorporate it, and they did in a big way. 346 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they like they It was the first motion picture 347 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: written to have smells associated with it. As we'll see 348 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: later on, there was a picture that was kind of 349 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: retroactively retrofitted with smells, but this one was like, we're 350 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: going to have this smell come out at this part 351 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: in the script, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, like we said, like, 352 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: Lobe was a lob. I don't even remember how we 353 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: sat his name anymore. He was a consummate inventor. He 354 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: was fairly genius from what I could tell. And he 355 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: had invented what he called the smell brain, which is 356 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: like the center es central component of the smell of vision. Well, 357 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: and we should say I think you said he'd called 358 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: it centavision originally. 359 00:18:59,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 360 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: One of the stipulations of his contract with Michael Todd Jr. 361 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: Was that they were going to change it to smellovision, right, 362 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: big diff Yeah, And apparently Michael Todd Junior was asked like, 363 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: why didn't you change it to something more dignified, and 364 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: he said, I don't understand how you can be dignified 365 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: about a process that introduces smells into a theater. 366 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what you could call it. That 367 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: isn't kind of cheeky. 368 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: I think sentavision still worked. Yeah, I think it was great. 369 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: But anyway, this smell brain was like the central component 370 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: of the entire smell of vision process. I guess. 371 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And this is one of those things that you 372 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: and I both I think, get kind of knocked out 373 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: about mechanical solutions to things, and this was that exactly. 374 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: It was a big box and had all these chemical 375 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: vials with these scents in them, and that was attached 376 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: to a belt that was attached to a motor, and 377 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: it simply would as the movie plays, it's timed to 378 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: queue up these these smells in sense and it would 379 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: basically load up into place. The belt would rotate on 380 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: que and then a needle is inserted into the vial 381 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: and spits it into a fan that pipes it through. 382 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: Uh. 383 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: And this was sort of the key, I think. And yes, 384 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: we'll get into more of this later, but it piped 385 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: it into ideally would pipe it into vince that would 386 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: not just go through the air conditioning or heating system 387 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: or whatever, but under each seat, like miles and miles 388 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: of this tubing. 389 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And that was, like you said, that's 390 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: the key. Apparently it worked really really well. Michael Todd 391 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: Junior gave Lobe a loub that's what we've been saying, 392 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: and how distracting. He gave him an entire theater in 393 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: Chicago to basically set up like a proof of concept, 394 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: and it worked very well. I think he started working 395 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: on it in nineteen fifty seven, nineteen fifty eight. There's 396 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: real there's a discrepancy between when this whole thing miradors. 397 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: We'll see either nineteen fifty nine or nineteen sixty. But 398 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: before they could get it out to market in I 399 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: think New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, they somebody beat 400 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: them to it, right, Yeah, a guy named Walter Reader Junior. 401 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had Aroma Rama. Again, pretty cheeky. 402 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: I think it's better than smell Avision. Yeah, I mean 403 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: they're both. 404 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, smell Division really fit that mid century age, you. 405 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: Know, sure, so does Aroma Rama. 406 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think back then they both kind of went 407 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: over pretty well. 408 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: They're the kind of words with tail fins, you know 409 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: what I mean. 410 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. This was in New York at the 411 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Demil Theater, and this is the one that you reference. 412 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: He didn't actually make a movie from scratch to work 413 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: with Aroma Rama. He bought the rights to a documentary 414 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: called Behind the Great Wall. It was sort of a 415 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: travel documentary about China, and he used his Aroma Rama 416 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: in that way, and people did not like it. Critically. 417 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: They they said it was a stunt. I think The 418 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: New York Times said the smells were elusive, oppressive, or 419 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: perfunctory and banal. 420 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: This is not good. The same reviewer went on to 421 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: say that that that the treatment in between smells that 422 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: was meant to clear the air had its own sticky, 423 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: sweet smell. That quote tends to become upsetting before the 424 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: film has run its full two hours. And then when 425 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: the reviewer left the theater, they happily filled their lungs 426 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: with that lovely fume laden New York go zone. It 427 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: has never smelled so good. So that's not really the 428 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: review you're going for when you're releasing the first smell 429 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: Avision or Aroma rama picture. 430 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and on the bad reviews of that, they 431 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: even mentioned the upcoming scentse of Mystery HU, which is 432 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: definitely not what you want when you're following up someone 433 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: who had had jumped the line ahead of you. 434 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Right, they got a terrible review, like they got a 435 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: terrible review by proxy. 436 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, exactly, so. 437 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: You want to take a break and come back and 438 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: we'll tell everybody about just exactly what happened when Sente 439 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: Mystery premiered. 440 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Cliffhanger, let's do it. 441 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: All, right, Chuck. So we're here. It's either nineteen fifty nine, 442 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: it's nineteen sixty, and it's time for the Cente Mystery 443 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: to premiere, and Michael Todd Junior's been talking it up. 444 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: He has a famous quote where he said that he 445 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: hopes people find it sensational. Here's that kind of guy. Yeah, 446 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: and the film itself was apparently fairly well received. I 447 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: was directed by a guy named Jack Cardiff who is 448 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: a cinematographer. I think he was a cinematograph for black 449 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: Narcissists if I'm not mistaken, and won an Oscar for it. 450 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: But he said he signed on to this one because 451 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: he said the script was very well written and really 452 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: dramatized the smells, which is man, that's a press to 453 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: her quote if I've ever heard one. Right there, I 454 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: think he probably should have just said, like I needed 455 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: the money. Can we all disagree on that being okay? 456 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: But he directed it, and again it was a pretty 457 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: cute little film. Daniel Melliott beloved actor who was Indiana Jones' 458 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: mentor and the first couple I believe remember what. 459 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: Was his name talking about Marcus. 460 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: Yes, he played He was the lead in Scent of Mystery, 461 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: Oh Crazy, Yeah, and Peter Laurie was his sidekick cab driver. 462 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: And the whole thing is set in Spain. It has 463 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: its own travel log kind of quality to it as well. 464 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 2: So the first two Smelly Pictures were essentially travel logs, 465 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: one in China, one in Spain, but the second one 466 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: had like a kind of a mystery plots to with 467 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: impostors and all that, and those with gags that you 468 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: were talking about, Like they really had a lot to 469 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: do with the movie, like the the twist or the 470 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: way the solution to the mystery that Daniel Elliott figures 471 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: out is based on a smell. He could tell that 472 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: the woman he's talking to is claiming to be someone 473 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: else is an imposter because she's wearing the different perfume 474 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: and the audience is smelling that kind of stuff. 475 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Or that's kind of fun. 476 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, another guy's rooted out as one of the evildoers 477 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: because of the smell of the pipe tobacco that he's smoking. 478 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: Like there's a lot, you know, some of it was gratuitous, 479 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: Like they did that whole thing like you were talking 480 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: about where they pull fresh bread out of the oven, right, 481 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: and I saw that they just shove it into the 482 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: camera and the camera just stays there for a little 483 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: while so you could get the fresh bread smell. But 484 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: the they really kind of went to great lengths to 485 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: make it so that the smells had some They weren't 486 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: all just gratuitous. They really did have something to do 487 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: with the plot. 488 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of that plot centric stuff could 489 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: be kind of fun back then. Still don't know if 490 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: i'd be into it today, But again, we'll get the 491 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: four D coming up. The New York Times again was 492 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: not too kind, had some pretty bad things to say. 493 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: Patrons sit there snipping and snuffling like a lot of 494 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: bird dogs, trying hard to catch the scent. And you know, 495 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: it was just a big flop basically overall. And this 496 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: is something I couldn't verify, but Hans Laub's daughter Carmen 497 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: claimed that Michael Todd Junior cheaped out on the ultimate 498 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: conversion into the other theaters by not taking it to 499 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: each seat, which was, like we said, really, one of 500 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: the keys is to make sure it's got to be 501 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: timed just right, Like you can't have the scent piping 502 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: in from an air duck twenty feet over your head 503 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: that you smell in two minutes when scene is already 504 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: long gone. And the real key was having it under 505 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: each seat. And she claims that they didn't do that, 506 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: and that's one of the big reasons why it failed. 507 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: I saw kind of like indirect references that kind of 508 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: support that claim that the first premiers flopped. But then 509 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: they did some technical adjustments and they got it all 510 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: figured out. So I'm wondering if they went in and 511 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: did the tube band because they saw that they had 512 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: really screwed up by trying to save a few bucks. 513 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: The problem is the New York Times had already reviewed it. 514 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: It was I mean, because it was a gimmick. People 515 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: like to see gimmicks fail or I should say this, 516 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: if a gimmick fails, people tend to find that satisfactory. 517 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: If it's successful, awesome, it becomes legendary and we'd be 518 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: having a completely different episode right now. But if a 519 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: gimmick fails, people love jumping on it. Henny Youngman famously 520 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: had a pretty great one liner. He said that he 521 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: didn't understand the movie because he had a cold. I 522 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: thought it was a great one liner. Apparently I'm alone here. Yeah, 523 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: was all right, but it it just got smeared because 524 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: people like smearing other people who try new things. Yeah, 525 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: so it had a very very small window to be 526 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: successful or not. Oh, it wasn't successful in that small window, 527 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: and so that was it. It was a flop. And 528 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: then that was it for Smellovision. And not only was 529 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: that it for Smellovision, Chuck, that was it for Hans 530 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: Lob and Michael Todd Jr. As well. 531 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, they canceled. They were going to expand to one 532 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: hundred theaters. They canceled that order. Carmen Helnslob's daughter said that, 533 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, he basically died penniless. For worse than penniless, 534 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: he died with debts. Even he did invent something that 535 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: again didn't bring him riches, but sort of the beta 536 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: version of what you would call a glade plug in 537 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: or something today. Yeah, that was called best Air. But 538 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: that didn't work, even though it was pretty ahead of 539 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: its time. 540 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Michael Todd Junior went off. He didn't 541 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: produce anything else. Apparently there were two other scripts that 542 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: he trademarked. One was called Bumpkins Holiday, and the description 543 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: I saw was that it's it was just a man 544 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: riding a bus and that there was no dialogue of 545 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: any kind. Wow, Like, what would that have been? 546 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: Like? 547 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: I would love to see somebody make that movie, because 548 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: how would you even attempt to make that interesting? You know? 549 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: And maybe he was just like with that title, I 550 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: got to snap this thing up. 551 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: Right, so that never got made. The other one was 552 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: called Creature from the Bronx. That never got made either, 553 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: so he never produced another movie again. I don't know 554 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: if he died broke pennyless and with debts. I think 555 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: kid some incomes still from right, I'm saying like Hans Low, 556 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: But I'm saying I don't think Michael Todd Junior did 557 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: oh and his career petered out, I think, is how 558 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: I saw it described. 559 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's sad. A couple of films have gone 560 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: on to do something like this later on. John Waders 561 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: was very famous for his nineteen eighty one film Polyester 562 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: in Theaters coming with a little scratch and sniff card 563 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: that you would use, very very funny and kitchy. Obviously 564 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: John Waters is going to do something fun like that. 565 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: But what sense were they well. 566 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Fart was a very famous dirty 567 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: shoes skunk. It wasn't you know, Peaches and Lilac right exactly. 568 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: And then the Rugrats Go Wild movie, as in homage 569 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: is what they called it, did the same thing in 570 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and three with their film, And then there 571 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: have been more modern stabs at this in the way 572 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: of four D. 573 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, I think we said at the outset helped 574 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: us out with us and he mentions the first four 575 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: D movie theater ever created was called the Censorium. It 576 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: was located at six Flags power Plant Amusement Park in Baltimore, 577 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: which I think now is like called power Plant Live 578 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: or something like that. 579 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: That sounds about right. 580 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: It was like Buckhead in the nineties, jammed into like 581 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: one call building from what I can tell. But back 582 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four they opened the Censorium and Dave 583 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: said he went there and like the seats moved and rumboled, 584 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: and they hit him with popcorn smells and stuff like 585 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: that sprayed with water to simulate rain, I believe, And it, 586 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: just like with smell Avision with Hans Loeb and his 587 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: attempt at the World's Fair, is basically proof of concept 588 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: of the World's Fair. Nobody did much with it after that. 589 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: Six Flights closed in nineteen ninety until twenty years later 590 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: when South Korean company came up with the forty X 591 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: and that's still around today. 592 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the next wave. I have not 593 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: tried it out yet, Like you said. At premiered in 594 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine in South Korea. There are twenty 595 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: one effects, so it's not just it's like kind of 596 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: what Dave experience. It's got Your seats are moving and 597 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: rubbling and rocking back and forth. Seatbacks can like punch you. 598 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: They'll be fog or cold or hot air, and plenty 599 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: of smells. And there are close to eight hundred of 600 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: these theaters opening. I'm sorry operating in the world today. 601 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: I have not gone. I want to try it out. 602 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. I just want to see what it's like. 603 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: I can assure you I probably won't like it, right, 604 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: But I will say that this podcast that I guess 605 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: is on is really great. I've mentioned it here before, 606 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: called Too Scary, Didn't watch. It's these three girlfriends who 607 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: one of them loves horror movies, the other two hate them, 608 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: but they want to know what happens. So she watches 609 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: in them and recaps them and it's a really fun show. 610 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: And Sammy Smart is one of the co hosts, who 611 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: is a great name. Yeah, Sammy's great, and she watches 612 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: these movies. The horror movie She's one of the watches 613 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: him and she went to four d X for the 614 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Top Gun movie, and she said she had a blast it. 615 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: Really yeah, Samy, someone who like who's judgment and opinion 616 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: I value. So just based on that alone, I'll give 617 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: it a shot. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 618 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: try out forty X. 619 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: So that my source, which is a Quartz article called 620 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: I watched Batman versus Superman at a forty theater so 621 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: you don't have to by Adam Epstein, all right, it's 622 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: basically the opposite. He was saying that, like there's a 623 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: part where some character gets shot in the back and 624 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: his seat punched him in the back for some reason. 625 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: He said his hair was just kind of wet for 626 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: some reason. All the well, I'm just saying, like like 627 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: getting punched, Like why would you want to simulate that? 628 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: You know? 629 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: Oh well, I think that's the whole deal. 630 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: His his point was this, this is the upshot, as 631 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: as he would have probably said it to you or me. 632 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: It did the opposite of pulling him into the movie. 633 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: They were reminded of exactly of where he was at 634 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: every single moment and now interested him from getting into 635 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: the movie itself. Okay, yeah, he yeah, he didn't really 636 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: like it at all, And from what I've seen, basically 637 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: every review is similar to that, except for apparently Sammy's 638 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: Smart's review. 639 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think Sammy, I don't think shit was a 640 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: full throated endorsement. I think it was like she'd said, 641 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: I had a really good time at this movie and 642 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: this experience I gotcha cool, which is different sometimes than 643 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: saying like this is awesome in the next way you. 644 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: Know, right, I'm with you, But it's hanging on hanging 645 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 2: in there. 646 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: It is. And there's a you can get this in 647 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: your home now. There's a company from Spain called Ola 648 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: Rama that will sell you. It's a sort of a 649 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: two foot but it looks like about one foot box 650 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: kind of looks like a box fan, right, and you 651 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: can load up to twenty smells I think for the 652 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: basic fifty five hundred dollars package, and it does the 653 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: same thing. It syncs up with your movies through software, 654 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: and I think you can go all the way up 655 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: to like twenty grand if you want a forty smell version, 656 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: and you can put it in your home theater. 657 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of the I Smell peripheral. Remember 658 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: we talked about the old Apple peripheral that never took off. 659 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: That's what it was, plugged into your computer and did 660 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. 661 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got about that. I have one more things. 662 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: You'll allow me, oh please. So they went back and 663 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: they kind of I don't think they'd made any edits whatsoever. 664 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: They just retitled the send of Mystery into Holiday in Spain, 665 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: it's not called sent a Mystery anymore. And they took 666 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: away the smelly parts. But because they'd written the script 667 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: around smells I saw A Daily Telegraph reviewer said it 668 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: took on a baffling, almost surreal quality in some parts, 669 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: like where the bread is pulled out of the oven 670 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: and then just kept in the middle of the screen 671 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: for all interesting. 672 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: It became like an art film. 673 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it just it didn't make sense anymore. I 674 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: thought that was a great description of it. I want 675 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: to see it now. 676 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: Maybe I should watch it. 677 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got anything else? 678 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: Maybe we should watch it together and we should just 679 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: provide each other with surprising smells. 680 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's a great idea, you know. Yeah, that's a 681 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: fantastic ed let's give it. 682 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: Ah, it don't sync up, you know, like the bread 683 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: comes out of the oven and that's when I do 684 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: like motor oil or something. 685 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: He just tells me with old used motor oil. Yeah, 686 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, that smells terrible. It would be fun, let's see. Yeah, 687 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: I think we are already asked you if you got anything else. 688 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: Right, I got nothing? 689 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: Okay, So since Chuck said he's got nothing, that means 690 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: time for a listener mail. 691 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this one just a very nice thank you. Hey, guys, 692 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: been listening to the show for about ten years now. 693 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: I want to express my gratitude. I've always enjoyed your 694 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: down to earth, humorous, clever, and intentional approach to the podcast. 695 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: I love learning about the stories, events and concepts I've 696 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: never heard of. We're hearing a more detail look at it. 697 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: I never would have thought to explot further. I realize 698 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: that your podcast has been with me through several milestones 699 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: and difficult life events, grad schools, starting my career, grief, 700 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: and now through my first year sobriety. 701 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 702 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: I work as a music therapist in a pretty high 703 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: strung environment, so I always appreciate how the show helps 704 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: me to take my mind off things. I quite literally 705 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: can't fall asleep without listening to a stuff you Should 706 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: Know episode old or new. And that's not because it's boring, Guys. 707 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: I often use listening the car and on walks as well, 708 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: but something about the show helps to bring a sense 709 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: of openness and appreciation for life that helps calm my mind. 710 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: So thank you to Josh and Chuck in the SYSK crew. 711 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: And that is from Emily. 712 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: Thanks Emily. Yes, we take that as high praise that 713 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: we help people fall asleep. I agree. 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