1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, February twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're not 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: planning to throw either. It's me and your man, MG 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: Marcus Great, joined by Michael F. Floyo and Laqwan Jones. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Happy leap Day, fellas. Do you guys have any plans 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you get one extra twenty four hour period this year? 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Do you have anything special you plan to do with it? Nope, 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: that sounds like a no at all. I forgot it happened. Yeah, 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I you know, I was just like I I didn't 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: even think about it. So I was I was driving 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: It's when I went to go drop my kid off 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: at school. When I'm driving home and I'm like listening 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: to the radio and like they're talking about like, oh yeah, 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: a lot of people are getting married today, Like the 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: county courthouse is going to be fool people getting married 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: because it's funny get married. I was like, one, I 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: never really thought about that, but also like people actually 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: plan something for today, Like I was just like, it's 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: just Thursday. In my wow, I was ready to. 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Like pay the bills, you know, first of the month, right, 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: we get a day off of that. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rinz do, that's pretty much. You know, it's got 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: it like I'm gonna do this show and then I 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe work out. Like I have no 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: idea what I'm gonna do, No I do anyway, we're 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: any talking obviously the Combine is going on now in Indianapolis, 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, I'm sitting here and we were 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: talking before the show, and our own Daniel Jeremiah moved 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: the sticks on Twitter. Is he's out tweeting measurements. I 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: mean it was as I was saying, it's the super 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Bowl for hand size Twitter. Everybody's getting fired up about 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: hand measurements and that sort of thing. And we're gonna 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: have large men running forty yards in spandex very soon. 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: So that's the thing that we'll be paying attention to 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend. But we will talk about the Combine. 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: We'll do some hype trainer, smoke screen, a little bit 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: of what we know. It's kind of things we are 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: looking for at the Combine. I think once this is 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: all done, we can sort of dive into some guys individually. 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna reach out to our pow Bucky Brooks and 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: see if he wants to come on and kind of 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: give us a rundown of what he saw, who he likes, 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: who he thinks maybe we should avoid a little bit, though. 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: We'll try to get him on in the coming weeks 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: after that. But let's get start with a little bit 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: of news, A couple of headlines of notes since we 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: last spoke to you. The Cincinnati Bengals plan to use 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: the franchise tag on T. Higgins. I don't know that 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: it's a major surprise. I mean, I thought we were 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: maybe hoping he would get to test the waters and 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: see if he could find a new spot, But it 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: appears that his new spot will be his old spot 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: back in Cincinnati. I went over to Underdog and looked 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: at his ADP. It is currently wide receiver twenty eight. 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: He has sandwiched between Cooper Cup and Amari Cooper Florio. 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Are you cool with that right now? I'm cool with 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: T Higgins going there. I'm not cool with those other 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: names though, like me either. 59 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: What does a Marii Cooper have to do? Man Last year, 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: in a season where his starting quarterback played six games 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: and then he had three other quarterbacks throwing him the ball, 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: he averaged more points per game than like Chris Olave, 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith, Calvin Ridley, who I'm sure are all going 64 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: ahead of him in these drafts. So as Cooper Cup, like, 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: I understand last year was kind of a down year, 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: but he could still finish as a top five fantasy 67 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: wide receiver I think. And if you want to say, well, 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: he has Phoka Nakua now to deal with, Higgins has 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: To deal with. Who is going to be a target vacuum? 71 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: So I'm okay with I feel like any of these 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: three names actually could go a few spots higher and 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: I'd have no issue with it at all. But yeah, 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: to me, the bigger takeaway was like why, especially Amari 75 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Cooper man, Like, what does he have to do to 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: get some respect? 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I am, yeah, I'm kind of with you, Like disrespect 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: it is, and I'm looking so I'm looking at it 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: right now. Right So, Mariy Cooper's wide receiver twenty nine. 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is right behind him at thirty, Jayden Reid's 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: at thirty one, Drake London is at twenty six, Keenan 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Allen at twenty five. I mean that's a lot to 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: take in right there. What is going on. I'm I 84 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't mean for this to become a wide receiver ADP discussion, 85 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: but now that I'm here, I'm scrolling through some of these. 86 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: I mean, Marvin Harrison Junior is at eleven. Nico Collins 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: is wide receiver nine right now, which I tie. I've 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: seen a lot of buzz for Nico Collins, a lot 89 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: of people excited about him. You know, our friend and 90 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver whisper Matt Harmon is out saying that he 91 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: thinks Nico Collins has wide receiver one potential and maybe 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver nine feels like a reach for him right 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: now because he's great. 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are living off the 95 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: hype of him finally breaking out because I'm one of 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: those people. But I'm even saying wide receiver nine is 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: tab bit right now. It might get humbled tunes when 98 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: we get closer. 99 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I know Tank Dell 100 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: got hurt sort of later in the year, but he 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: still exists. Malik Neighbors is wide receiver twenty three. Some 102 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: weak Neighbors right now going five spots ahead oft Te Higgins, 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: six spots ahead of Amari Cooper. Wow. I hear silence. 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot though, Like I feel like, you know, 105 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: oh man, we're getting really excited about these rookies, and 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, Mike had already on the 107 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: disrespect for Marik Cooper and for Cooper Cup. But T Higgins, Man, 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: it looks like it's a spot right now where it 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: looks safe because it's still the unknown. So I like 110 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: a lot of the names that we're naming that I 111 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: would take before T Higgins, But it's just like a 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: lot still needs to happen. 113 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Still a little bit early. Yeah, I mean I think 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, Floria that I think I think 115 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: T Higgins at Wide Receiver twenty eight feels okay. Cooper 116 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: and Cooper and Cup, Cooper Cup, I feel a little bit. 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit. I'd like to tell you 118 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I was planned, but it wasn't. But those guys feel 119 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: a little bit low where they are right now. I mean, look, 120 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Drake London at twenty six. You guys know I love 121 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: Drake London, right but you can have a quarterback right now. 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I saw a lot of buzz about 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: maybe Justin Fields is going to get traded to Atlanta, 124 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: but as of this moment, his quarterback is still Desmond Ritter. 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah that right there, So you know, I don't know 126 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: that I take him ahead of cup or Cooper at 127 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: this point. And yeah, I think a lot of it is. 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: We're we're so early in the process that people want 129 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: a flag plant and stuff and be like, like I 130 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: could pull up eighty my drafts from February when I 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: was all over. 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to be first on a guy. 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: But like even like DK Metcalf going where he's going, Like, 134 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: no disrespect to him, But in a game less Amari 135 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: Cooper scored more Fantasy points, He's picked up more yards, 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: he averaged over a point more per game, so like. 137 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a clear one too. Yeah. Yeah, I think 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: some of it is muscle memory. 139 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: I know that's something you talk a lot about, Marcus, 140 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: like we're just so accustomed to pulling this guy up 141 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the board. 142 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the other part. 143 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Is everyone just kind of wants to be first. That's 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: why ADP now is fun. But until after the draft. 145 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot of it, especially free agency, a 146 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: lot of it is guessing. 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we always get there are a couple 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: of course correction times. I think for ADP, I think 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: after free agency, as you mentioned, is one. After the 150 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: draft is another one. And I think the biggest course 151 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: correction we get is honestly, like, yeah, mid July early August, 152 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: when you get a lot more casual players jumping in 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: people who aren't who aren't sickos like us who are 154 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: up to their neck in this all year long, right, 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: who look, maybe those maybe some of those folks have 156 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: kind of heard the name Malik Neighbors, maybe they've sort 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: of heard the name Rome Odoonz, but they don't know 158 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: them where. It's like, I know Amari Cooper, I've had 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper on my fantasy team before. I'm drafting Amari 160 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Cooper over this kid from the University of Washington that 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't really know anything about. Like, I feel like 162 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: that is the other big course correction where some of 163 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: these names that maybe US nerds are really really high 164 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: on in February sort of get pulled down an ADP 165 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: because a lot more casual people just aren't willing to 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: take that shot on them early, Like, could we put 167 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: a Mari Cooper in that tier? Now? 168 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: The Mike Evans and Keen Allen's where their ADP is 169 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: like disrespectfully low, and they show up in the season 170 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: in the top twelve, Top fifteen conversation. 171 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: I am making a note to myself right now as 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: we talk about this, to write something about just a 173 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: list of wide receivers that I think we take for granted, 174 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: right And I think Amari Cooper's one. Mike Evans is one. 175 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Mike Evans is one, Keenan Allen is one. He's a dog. 176 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: You know, for years, I thought Tyler Lockett was one. 177 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: Lockett was last year, but before that, Tyler Lockett, Tyler 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Lockett was on that list of guys. It was just like, 179 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm not drafted Tyler Lockett, and then he gives you, like, 180 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, ninety catches and eleven hundred yards and like 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: six or eight touchdowns. Yeah, him and Robert Woods were 182 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: in that pocket. Bobby Trees. Bobby Trees was there for 183 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: a while for sure, for sure. But there are guys 184 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: that are just like I think we take them for granted, 185 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and I think Amari Cooper is definitely falling into that 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: category right now. In that vein. 187 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: I also feel like there's a lot of wide receivers 188 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: that we not us three in particular, but as a 189 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: fantasy community over hype, like because the two like chrysal 190 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: Lave comes to mind, Like we know that he on 191 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: a different team could be amazing, But he's a wide 192 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: receiver too, as long as Derek Cars his quarterback. London 193 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: is another one, and these rookies, everyone wants to be like, well, 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: if things break right for this guy, he could be 195 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: a wide receiver one. 196 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: But things are not going to break right for all 197 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: of them, all right, So let's let's let's just play 198 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: hypotheticals here, right, Let's say the Saints to you know what, 199 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: we've seen enough of Derek Carr, let's go with Jamis. 200 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: Let's go where we go? Where are we going to 201 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Chris o'lave. Then if it's Jamis and I'm not saying 202 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: this is gonna you know, this is not gonna put 203 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: the Saints into the playoffs, Like they're not gonna become 204 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: some kind of contender with Jamis at quarterback. But for 205 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: our own selfish, greedy fantasy purposes, what does this do 206 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: to Chris o'lave for you? Top ten? Top ten Locke? 207 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, he's gonna get a chunk of his 208 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: fantasy points on the long ball because we know Whinsington 209 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: still air it out. And after having a conversation with 210 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: him in New Orleans, by the way, I told him 211 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: straight to his face, I was like, one thing I 212 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: do know about you still got that long ball. 213 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: His face lit up. 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: He was like, oh, yeah, you know, I still got that. 215 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, we need you on the field because 216 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: we need Chris olave to have these points and I 217 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: think that's where most of his points will come from. 218 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I feel like you and Jamis would have been BFFs. 219 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: After that. 220 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was fanning out, but I had 221 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: to calm down and keep it professional. 222 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: So speaking of what you, we're gonna talk to you 223 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: because you were in New Orleans last week for the 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: HBCU Legacy Ball. I want to get your thoughts on 225 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: that in just a little bit. But yeah, that Tonty 226 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: man Jamie. The quarterback situation makes all the difference. I 227 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: think for Chris o'lave there in New Orleans, we know 228 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: the talent, it's just is there a guy that can 229 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: get him the ball consistently. Other bit of news, nothing 230 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: has actually happened yet with any of the running backs. 231 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: With Saquon Barkley in particular. But the Giant's sort of 232 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: musing that now that we've got the new salary cap 233 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: numbers and they are higher than I think a lot 234 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: of people anticipated that maybe they could use the franchise 235 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: tag on Saquon a second time. What it sounds like 236 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: this is news to you. Yeah, they might. You know, look, 237 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: they haven't said anything definitively one way or another, but 238 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, the idea came up and they thought, you know, 239 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: maybe this is not a crazy idea. So I think 240 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: for Saquon it sort of stinks, and that this is 241 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: your chance to maybe test the free agent market, see 242 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: what's out there, see what's going to happen. I thought 243 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: about the idea of Saquon to the Chargers, which seemed 244 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: really really interesting potentially, you know, I think somebody else, 245 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: I'll try to another team that somebody brought up that 246 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm blanktags right now, the Texans. That's it. That could 247 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: be really really interesting for Saquon. But uh, I mean, LQ, 248 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: if he gets tagged, is he better off staying with 249 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: the Giants? He's been comfortable there, he's had some decent 250 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: amount of success there. Is he better sticking there than 251 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: trying to learn a new offense in a new city. 252 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I feel really weird about this 253 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: situation because if Saquon leaves, then who's left there on 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: that Giants offense to get anything going? If you're gonna 255 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: stick with Daniel Jones with this contract, I mean, they 256 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: don't have really big name premiere players like we have 257 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: the Wandel Robinsons and you know the rest of the 258 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: guys that we want to do good. And Darren Waller 259 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: needs to stay healthy. But I think the right decision 260 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: here is to tag him again, as bad as that sounds, 261 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: just to have some building blocks to go into this draft, 262 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: to basically hit this draft and hid in areas that 263 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: you've been lacking for the last couple of years. But 264 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: if they tag him again, it's it's eleven point nine 265 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: million for that tag that that's pretty pricey for a 266 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: guy you're still unsure what about. 267 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't're unsure about Saquon. I think it's just the 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: idea of paying running backs at all. 269 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: That they're unsure health. He needs to stay healthy. That's 270 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: also the factor in that as well. 271 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: That's fair, but you also look at this this is 272 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: not a great running back draft class. No, the the 273 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: the guy that is the top running back in this 274 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: class is a guy coming off an a cl tair 275 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: right who may not be ready for the the start 276 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: of the season. And just that, that to me says 277 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: a lot about where we are in terms of this 278 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: running back draft classic. Nobody's really excited about this group 279 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: right now. That's a hard place to be. And I 280 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: think if you are, look, if you're the Giants, if 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: you're anybody you know, why would we wait until day late, 282 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: day too early, day three to try and take a 283 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: running back to fill this gap. We could just, you know, 284 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: even even at a slightly elevated price, bring back the 285 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: guy that we know and have had some familiarity with 286 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: and get them ready. 287 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: But my thinking though is like, because I agree, I 288 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: think for fantasy purposes, there's better landing spots than the 289 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: Giants or take one Barkley. But yeah, he's kind of 290 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: like the old school running back in his sense where 291 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: he is the identity of his football team and has 292 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: been since they use the number two draft pick on 293 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: him back in twenty eighteen. I also believe if because 294 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherd I believe is retiring, so tak one might 295 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: be the longest tenured New York Giant at this point, 296 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: I think what he means to the fan base and 297 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: stuff matters a lot. And then when you start talking money, 298 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: the fact that it's a bad draft class, paired with 299 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: the fact that the cap jumps like unprecedentedly high and 300 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: it is a loaded free agent class, that we could 301 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: see these free agents. 302 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Get larger deals. 303 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: Not look, they're not going to break the bank because 304 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: they're still running backs, but they could get more than 305 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: running backs gotten past years, which makes it kind of 306 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: smart to franchise them. And if you're Saquon at this point, 307 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: with the injuries and the wear and tear and stuff, 308 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: it might just be better for you to stay in 309 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: the environment that you know and where you are such 310 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: a big deal because we've seen, like I know, it's 311 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: a little different, but like think about Ezekiel Elliott or 312 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: or Le'Veon Bell or a lot of these running backs, 313 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: when they change the team that they have made their 314 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: legacy with, they're they're not rewarded the same opportunities in 315 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: the new landing spot. So I think this could be 316 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: a good thing for Sequon and the Giants. 317 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I think in the end 318 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: it probably is the best I would, you know, I 319 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I just maybe because I'm so underwhelmed with 320 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: the Giants offense. I just want Sekuan to go somewhere 321 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: where maybe he can, you know, text them or runs. 322 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Because obviously Damian Pierce last year was not it didn't 323 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: work out the way they wanted it to be. Devin 324 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: Singletary had a decent year, but I don't think. Look, 325 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: I think given the choice, I don't think they want 326 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: him to be their main back. I don't think that's 327 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: what they are looking for. Houston would be interesting. I 328 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: think Saquon with Greg Roman and Justin Herbert and Jim 329 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: Harbaugh in Los Angeles could be interesting. But I think 330 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get in New York with Daniel Jones again. 331 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: Now they need a new quarterback man, Danny dins ain't it. 332 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do, how they're gonna 333 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe this is your chance. Yeah, 334 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think you're gonna do that. 335 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: I think you trade back a couple of spots because 336 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: by the time you get to six, Williams, may And 337 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: and Daniels will all be gone. Six feels too early 338 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: for any of the other guys out there. I'm not 339 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: taking I'm not taking McCarthy, I'm not taking Nicks, I'm 340 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: not taking Pinnix. At six, maybe you trade back a 341 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: couple of spots, you get some assets, and then you 342 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: get the quarterback you want. But at six, I just 343 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I think I do that. You can 344 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: take a wide receiver, take a receiver at six. 345 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: I agree, but I think that long the Giants. Look, 346 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: we all said it last year when they signed that deal, 347 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: we were like, what are you doing, Like, that's a 348 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: lot of money we give to Daniel Jones, But now 349 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: he has a neck injury and a torn acl on 350 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: top of it. So what made him so appealing two 351 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: years ago was his rushing. Yeah, that's gone now. I look, 352 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: they said when they signed that contract with Daniel Jones, 353 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: that said it's gonna put them in football purgatory for 354 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: a while, and maybe that's where they are. 355 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: And then they lost forty to in the first game. Ah, 356 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. That's rough. Obviously the combine going 357 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: on in Indianapolis, but I know there's sort of combine 358 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: of swords happened last week down in Worlans the HBCU 359 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: Legacy Bowl and uh Lakwan and doing doing his actual 360 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: not just goofing around with us here on this show, 361 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: actually a researcher for NFL media. And you got the 362 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: chance to go, I say work. I use that term 363 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 1: advisedly because you were in New Orleans and you were 364 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: hanging out with Steve Wish and Bucky Brooks and Charles 365 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: Davis and I'm sure eating all sorts of good food 366 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and you know, oh my god, the food, howling around 367 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: with Jameis Winston and all that sort of stuff. But 368 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: you got to be down there. I got to see 369 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: this thing firsthand. And I know, you know, I know 370 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: that Bucky sort of wrote a recap. I think Charles 371 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: Davis wrote a recap of it. But for you, from 372 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: what you saw, anybody that really stood out to you 373 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: that past week in New Orleans, Like the headlines were 374 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, man, I mean, Davis Richards, Jeremy Moosa. 375 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: These guys were like the headlines of the entire week, 376 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: just to see them in the combine, see them practice 377 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But there was one guy on 378 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: defense that just kept showing up, I mean, breaking up passes, 379 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: Jabim Morton from Morgan State. Man, Like I got a 380 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: chance to like really rap with him after the third 381 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: day of practice, and I'm like, man, yo, you're explosive. 382 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: Like he's just a simple guy that just knows football. 383 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: And he kind of just like ran the routes for 384 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: a lot of the wide receivers out there when he 385 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: was picking them off and breaking them up. So I 386 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: can really see him Jamie Morton man from Morgan State. 387 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: I can see him end up in the camp somewhere, 388 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, just just absorbing and getting better at his crap. 389 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: But he was one of the defensive backs that just 390 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: kind of popped off for me. 391 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I saw I know, Davis Richard 392 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: was what was a name that popped out a lot, 393 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, I know he got hurt early in that 394 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: game first quarter man years that it doesn't get isn't 395 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: anything serious. So that's sort of some good news there. 396 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: But these are interesting things because as you mentioned, there 397 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: aren't these aren't a lot of names that we're gonna hear, 398 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the first couple of days of the draft, 399 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: if anything, you hear them maybe day three or a 400 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: lot of them signed as free agents. But you know, 401 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: the HBCUs have a long history of putting really quality 402 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: talent into the league, and there's a better than even 403 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: chance that's some of these names that you saw this weekend. Uh. 404 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of them are going to stick 405 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: and a couple of them are going to become playmakers 406 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So yeah, very very cool experience though 407 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: for you. Did you enjoy it down there? 408 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it down there, man. I mean, I gotta say, 409 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: the vibes, the food, the street music, the street art, 410 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: the art out there. 411 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: Is just amazing. 412 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: Man. 413 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: Like I've seen so many like pieces that I didn't 414 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 3: even know you can make pieces out of, Like I've 415 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: seen the army out of. 416 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: Jewelry broken in New Orleans. 417 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I was really mind blown, Like it was crazy. 418 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: Did you think it was dark? It was dark? I 419 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: say that so in the backstory here, Once upon a 420 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: time this past season, Florio and I and several others 421 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: were in the green room before show and Steve Smith 422 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: ju Steve Smith Senior, Steve Smith Sr. Was in there 423 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: talking to us, and he was talking about how he 424 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: feels about certain cities and the aesthetic of which and 425 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: his his review of New Orleans. Was that it was dark. Yeah, 426 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: not like not dark like you know, emotionally, just like 427 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: physically dark, like there wasn't enough lighting in this snok 428 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: like thee tell him like, I'm gonna walk to his 429 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: Walgreens to go get a charger, and I'm like, i 430 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: am not going tonight actually because I'm not enough light 431 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: down that road to go there. So I'm good. Yeah, 432 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: that was that. I will always never I think of 433 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: New Orleans now, I think of Steve Smith Senior, uh 434 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: and him telling me that is dark. That's it. Other 435 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: than that, I enjoyed. I love this here, real Nors. 436 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: I love your city. I have no complaints with your city. 437 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: I've been there many times. I have had a good time. 438 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: I love New Orleans. Take it up with Steve Smith Senior. 439 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. All Right, we're gona take a 440 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: quick break, come back. We're gonna start talking about the 441 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: combine little high trainer smoke screen based on some coaches 442 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: quotes from the past few days. That's coming up next 443 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football podcast. So yes, everybody talks 444 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: about the combine in terms of it being the you know, 445 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: the pejorative term, the underwear Olympics skies and spandex, running, jumping, lifting, 446 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: all that sort of thing. But the other part of 447 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: the combine, which maybe is even more enlightening, are the interviews, 448 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: the press conferences that the coaches and players have. The 449 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: week started with the coaches of the thirty two teams, 450 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: or at least the ones who were there standing in 451 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: front of microphones, doing some interviews, getting quotes, and so 452 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: I pulled some of these because I mean, look, this 453 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: is prime time for coach speak, right, this is when 454 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: everybody has high hopes. Everybody's excited about the year to come. 455 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: We got big plans for all the things we're gonna 456 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: do on the field. So I decided we should play 457 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: a little hype trainer smoke screen on some of these. 458 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: So I pulled four quotes that I saw come across 459 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: my Twitter feed, and I'll get you guys' thoughts on 460 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: how much you are buying into them. So Floya'll start 461 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: with you on this one. Dan Campbell says Jamison Williams quote, 462 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna push to be a full time starter. I know 463 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: that you are. I won't say you're a Jamison Williams stand, 464 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: but you believe in him and you think there's still 465 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to come out and be a playmaker. 466 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: So when you hear that from Dan Amble, hype train 467 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: or smoke screen, hype train all the way. Baby. 468 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: I tweeted this out when I saw Campbell say this, like, 469 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: I will never quit Jamison. As long as Jamison Williams 470 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: has that Jamison Williams speed, it is going to be 471 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: hard for me to quit him, especially like I loved 472 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: him when he was coming out of college through and 473 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: he had a weird draft process because he had the 474 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: twenty ACL and then like, it's been a really weird 475 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: two years for Jamison Williams if you look at it, 476 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: because the first year the ACL injury in college, when 477 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: he comes back in the NFL, they barely let him play. 478 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: At the end of that year, he was just kind 479 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: of running streaks down the field. Then coming into year two, 480 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: we're all excited about him. The gambling suspension and he hurts, 481 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: I believe his hamstring in the preseason, not able to 482 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: practice or rehab with the team. Comes back and he 483 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: was kind of used in a similar way where they 484 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: were just like there was packages for Jamison Williams and 485 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: they were trying to get him the ball either forty 486 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: yards downfield or behind the line. But in the playoffs 487 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: and late in the year, I do believe we started 488 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: to see that change. They had him running like actual routes. 489 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: He was running and comeback routes and stuff like that, 490 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: and he was able. We know he's a weapon with 491 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. He's a weapon downfield. So 492 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: the fact that Dan Campbell, who I do believe is 493 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: the most trustworthy coach in the NFL when he speaks, 494 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: I think we could listen to a pretty high degree. 495 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Paired with the fact that Josh. 496 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: Reynolds is a free agent now and we could see 497 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: Jamison Williams playing more two wide receiver sets. I'm never 498 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: gonna quit him. That being said, it's a very much 499 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: for fantasy. It depends on what the price is like. 500 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: If he's still going as like a fifth sixth round 501 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: pick next year, I'll probably be out, but I don't 502 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: anticipate that. I think we're gonna get a bigger discount 503 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: than we've ever gotten on Jamison Williams and in. 504 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: What could be his first normal NFL offseason and season. 505 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: For the record, he is currently wide receiver forty seven, 506 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: just after Jacoby Myers, just ahead of Josh Downs. Oh, 507 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: all day, all right, yeah, that's free. Well, as I 508 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: am buying that he's going to push to be a 509 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: full time starter, I believe that he's going to try 510 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: really hard to be a full time starter. I do think, 511 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: as you mentioned Josh Reynolds, potentially not being there helps 512 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: things a lot. I just worry are there going to 513 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: be enough targets When you know a'man Ross Saint Brown 514 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: is going to occupy a lot of them. Sam Laporta 515 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: is going to get a lot of them. You still 516 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: have to somehow get the ball to Jamior Gibbs. You know, 517 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: you have to get it to David Montgomery. I just 518 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: wonder will he be anything more than a downfield threat 519 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: or behind the line of scrimmage threat. But I do 520 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: think in terms of like him pushing to be a 521 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: full time starter, absolutely hype train production. Yeah, but at 522 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, but at wide receiver forty seven. I'll take 523 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: the shot. Yeah, take the shot, especially in best ball, 524 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: especially in best ball. Oh absolutely, in best ball twenty percent? 525 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: All right, look on, uh, John Harbaugh says, quote the 526 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: ball is going to get to Rashod Bateman, a lot 527 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: more next year. This sort of dovetails to me in 528 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: terms of the Ravens every single year telling us they 529 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: want to throw the football more. M hmmm, high trader 530 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: smokes Hi, I feel like I know where you're going 531 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: with this high Trader smoke screen. This is a smoke screen. 532 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: A Batman's right in your face. 533 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: Man, There's no way you're gonna full me again, because 534 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: obviously the target shares are already low to begin with. When 535 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: you have Mark Andrews, who have eight flowers I mean Bateman, 536 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: he can be dust on somebody else's bench, not mine. 537 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm kind of over the Wow 538 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: or Shot Bateman project. 539 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: But let me look at their wide receivers, right, I mean, 540 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's for Shot Bateman. I mean, look O'Dell 541 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. Is you're talking about dust? I mean obj 542 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: was was on the side of a milk carton in 543 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: the postseason, Yeah he was. I don't know, I mean, 544 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: who else healthy Mark Andrews, sure is want to get 545 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: the ball? Who else do they throw the football to 546 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis? You do not say, Papa, I 547 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: don't know, sure Flowers. I mean, but like there's not 548 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of places to go with the ball right now. 549 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: There's so many question marks on this Ravens offense, Like 550 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: more than that I actually anticipate. 551 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean JK. 552 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: Dobbins and Gus Oder, which are both free agents, and 553 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: Jk's probably. 554 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: Sadly, yeah, sadly, I think it may be into the 555 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: road for JK. Dobbins. 556 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: You have not seen this breakout that we've been waiting for. 557 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: I just can't just hold on anymore. I literally cannot, 558 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: like my stomach cannot take it right now. 559 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: Wow, the thing is like all of this stuff that 560 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: we said we could have said this past, Like their 561 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: number one target was a rookie wide receiver, Mark Andrews 562 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: got hurt and missed a bunch of time. Uh Odell 563 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: kind of was dust for a lot of this year, 564 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: and yet Rashad Bateman still had fewer yards than Nelson 565 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: Aguilar and Isaiah Likely. 566 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, nasty work. Wow. 567 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna let everyone else who's a believer in 568 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 2: him take him. I have no interest. 569 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Good riddance, all right, all right, so we want to 570 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: smoke screen. I want to believe I'm I'm I'm I'm 571 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: getting my fox molder on man. I want to believe 572 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: has to be like wide receiver sixty something. He got 573 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: to be in the sixties. Let's see where we can 574 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: find ourselves. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling scrolls Now I feel like 575 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: I feel like I scrolled. Oh no, there he is. 576 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman is wide receiver eighty six. Wow, just after 577 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: just after Jonathan Mingo Anti at that point. If you 578 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: want to believe in him, sure, all right. I mean 579 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people getting excited about it. 580 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if thatddy. I want to check back 581 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: in like a week or two and see if that 582 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: ADP has come up out of. 583 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 3: Fuel the machine, just to see the machine explode, because 584 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: that's what's going. 585 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: That's literally what it is. Apparently we are the Rashad 586 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: Bateman hater show of record. That's all I can tell. Uh. 587 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: All right, I set this one up specifically for you. 588 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: Floria Falcons offensive coordinator Zach Robinson said Kyle Pitts will 589 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: be a key part of Atlanta's passing attack. I want 590 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: to throw this sounds because it's like I know that 591 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: you guys both follow the opposite end of the Kyle 592 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Pitts spectrum here, right, like I know that that Florio 593 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: has great love for him. I know that you know 594 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: that Lakwana rather stick himself in the ear with a 595 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: sharp pencil before drafting Kyle Pitts again, dump this out 596 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: of here first to you, Floria. Uh, Zach Robinson say 597 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a key part of the passing attack. 598 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people saying that he's fully healthy, 599 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: that maybe we didn't know the extent of his knee 600 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: injury from a couple of years ago. Uh is it 601 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: full speed ahead? Are you? And you're gonna get a discount? 602 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: I because people are tired of it. Like, are you 603 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: full speed ahead? Still on Kyle Pitts. Yes, in our 604 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: mock draft, I got him in like the eighth round 605 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: or something. Believe our researcher made fun of you for that. 606 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I think she mocked you for that. Oh did she? 607 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I think I think that I think she took a 608 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: shot at you for doing that. Yes, if I recall correctly. Oh, well, 609 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: because Kyle p is gonna be awesome. 610 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: Like like we know Kyle Pitts could play like his 611 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: rookie year. I think proved everything that we wanted to see. 612 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: It's one of the before Sam Laporter. It was the 613 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: best rookie recent rookie tight end season in record UH 614 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: and it was still top five all time in Fantasy 615 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: points scored by a rookie. Then the weirdness happened in 616 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: his sophomore year with Arthur Smith UH and last year 617 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: with John new Smith. But I believe it's a little 618 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: bit of all of it, I think, And look, I 619 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: know this is a second straight offseason. I'm saying it. 620 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: The quarterback play cannot get any worse, right, Like Marcus 621 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: Manrijoda was the worst quarterback this past year. The Falcons 622 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: quarterbacks this two years ago. This past season, they were awful. 623 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: John new Smith is officially gone. We have an offensive 624 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: coordinator that I think we could trust in Zach Robinson, 625 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: because there's a history of success with coordinators who have 626 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: worked under Sean McVay. And then I believe that Kyle 627 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Pitts was more injured than we were let on to believe. 628 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: I remember back to August in training camp when he 629 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: had a big kneeberry Son and was kind of limping, 630 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: and people reports came out that he might not be. 631 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Healthy for the first few weeks of the season, and. 632 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: We all kind of were like, no, he's gonna be 633 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: out there, but he'd never and they were using him 634 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: a little bit downfield less. Just to me, it felt 635 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: like the last two years. And I know people are 636 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: probably sick of me saying this, like it worst case 637 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: scenario for Kyle Pitts. So you I need to see 638 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: a quarterback upgrade, and it depends like it's gonna be 639 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: a big difference if justin fields as the quarterback first, 640 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: say like JJ McCarthy or something like that. But I'm 641 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: still a believer in Kyle Pitts. And like you said, Marcus, 642 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be the cheapest probably he's ever been 643 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: because even as a rookie people were hyping him up 644 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: as a top five tight end. 645 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: He is tightened ten right now between between David Joku 646 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: and Jake Ferguson. 647 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: All right, so Lakwan counterpoint. Listen, is it too late 648 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: to buy a ticket because I'm hyping. I'm hype training 649 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: this up. 650 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Man. 651 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: I am on the Kyle Pitts hype train. Just based 652 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: on some of the points that Florio was hitting on. 653 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: Got Zach Robinson coming from the Rams. I called him 654 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: in Atlanta Rams by the way, because we got all 655 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: the RAMS personnel over there, but Zach Robinson, he wasn't 656 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: calling the plays over there. But it was his job 657 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: to instill the offense and make sure people understood what 658 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: was going on and that it was just going to 659 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: be something you know that Sean McVay just didn't have 660 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: to monitor too much. Like Zach Robinson was the perfect 661 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: guy for this offense last season. Now he's going to 662 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: Atlanta to where he gets to put his little spin 663 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: on the offense. They need to find a quarterback. That's 664 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: my only hesitation. But this morning, this very morning, on 665 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: the underdog Draft, I got Kyle Pitts in the eighth round. 666 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: That is a perfect place to get him right now 667 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: because of people like me last season that was hating 668 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: on him. 669 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: Let's keep the hate going. 670 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: Man, Let's get him in the tenth round, and then 671 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: you just wreak all the benefits because they mean business. 672 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Man. 673 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: I believe everything that they're saying, because the first order 674 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: of business was get the distraction out of the building, and. 675 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: That was John new Smith. 676 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 2: Man. 677 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: John Smith is a great tight end. He's a good 678 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: tight end. That wasn't the guy to bring in to 679 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: try to compete with or put the fire under Kyle 680 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: Pitts's but because John Smith can actually play, so it 681 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: was just like the indication them getting him out of there. 682 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: The first order of business before they even get a quarterback, 683 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: was they get this guy out of here. We need 684 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: him out of here. We need Kyle Pitts to beat 685 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: a focal point in this offense. I am on the 686 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 3: hype train officially for Kyle Pitts. 687 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Now I'm gonna imagine that Lakwan's gonna spend there. 688 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna been the off season just like trashing him, 689 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: just to like bring the adp. You can try to 690 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: catch the timeline here though. Man listen, I'm on it, man, 691 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm all here for it, Man Florid this year tag 692 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: team in it up. Look, I believe right like I 693 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: still believe. I'd never fully believe. I got frustrated. I'm 694 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. I got really frustrated and 695 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: I stopped trying to like hype him midway through the year. 696 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: But I still believe in the talent. I still hopefully, 697 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm believing that the situation is going to be better. 698 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: I will also say that I don't think I'm going 699 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: to have a lot of him, probably because I may 700 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: have drafted a tight end by Ben, I still have 701 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: sort of leaned into the I want to get a 702 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: guy on the earlier side because I just don't want 703 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: that happen. But I'm looking. I'm sitting here looking at 704 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: the tight ends. 705 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: Right. 706 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: Laport is gonna go early. He's number one, Kelsey's at 707 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: two right now, Trey McBride is at three, Andrew's at four. 708 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: So it may be a year that I wait a 709 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: little bit longer. So maybe I'll end up waiting on 710 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: the tight end. Cool. I'm talking. I'm thinking through this 711 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: out loud here, So maybe I'll end up having more 712 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts than maybe I anticipated at this point. You 713 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: could do like I did in the mock. 714 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: Compare him with Dalton Kinkaid in the eighth and ninth round, 715 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: and then you get two upside shots. 716 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Interesting. I like Bessy. That's spicy. I'm always a double 717 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: tap tight end kind of guy. I like that, all right. Last, 718 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: the last one here, this one from Sean Payton. I'll 719 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: send this to Lakwan first. The only thing that slowed 720 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: down Marvin Mims Junior was quote us, which again feels 721 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: like everything that every fantasy analyst said all the year 722 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: last year, like why don't you put this guy on 723 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: the field more? And night Sean McVay or Sean Payton 724 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: basically was like, Hey, maybe we should have put this 725 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: guy on the field more. Are you buying it, high traders, 726 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: smoke screen? Are you buying into this smoke screen? Man? 727 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, because I just don't see it happening immediately. I 728 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: think we're slowly gradually throughout the year going to see 729 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: Marvin Mins get more developed. But right now there's still 730 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: a question at the quarterback position for him as well. 731 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: So it's like the dude runs a four to three. 732 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: He is a deep thread. We saw him have flashes 733 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 3: and you could put him on special teams. 734 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: He can make plays there. Whatever. Just get this dude 735 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: on the field because he can make the plays. 736 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: Man, Like, I honestly don't understand what was holding him 737 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: back from just sprinkling him in in a couple of plays, 738 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: like just have him there just to be a decoy 739 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: or something. But it just wasn't happening. So it's a 740 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 3: smoke screen. I need to see it to believe it. 741 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm buying it. I don't know about you. Florida. I'm 742 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: buying it because I don't know that Courtland Sutton's coming back. 743 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I think they would like to move on from Jerry Judy. 744 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's going to be possible, but 745 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're in love with Jerry Judy. 746 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: Maybe they draft somebody, maybe they try to add somebody 747 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: in free agency. But I think there's gonna be a 748 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: large opening for Marvin Mims to get on the field 749 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: next year and make some plays. I think that's the 750 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: reason I'm buying into it, Mike, not not only because 751 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: I believe Sean Payton. I think he's a master at ubfuscation, 752 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: but I think just I think the roster situation will 753 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: allow itself for Marvin Mims to get on the field 754 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, I think so as well. 755 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 2: And I think back to like Week four, Week five, 756 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: when on Fantasy Live, I was like calling out Sean Payton, 757 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: like you talk about bad coaching jobs, the guy leading 758 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: the league and yards per route, ran can't see the 759 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 2: field on your team that is searching for wide receiver help. 760 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: But I have questions about Marvin Mims game, like can 761 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: he can he be more than just a downfield threat? 762 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: Can can he run a full route tree stuff like that, 763 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: But I it might not matter, like if he's able 764 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: to see the fields as much as we're anticipating, at 765 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: least me and you Marcus, Like one big play a 766 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: week is all he kind of needs. And the thing 767 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: I'm thinking is, like, even if he can't be that 768 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: that true wide receiver one for you use him how 769 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: the Chiefs use mvs right like like Lukwama is saying, 770 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: as a. 771 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: Decoy, you use the MVS. 772 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: Like he's out there so much just because he opens 773 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 2: stuff up short term because you have to worry about 774 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 2: him burning your secondary. So Mims could at least play 775 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 2: that role. And if you throw a couple of long 776 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: balls again to him, like, I don't see why he 777 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: can't be productive. But I think for him to be 778 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: like a weekly every you start a weekly in fantasy option, 779 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: he probably needs to become a little bit of a 780 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: better route runner. 781 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. They also have a similar situation 782 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: where they've got to figure out their quarterback scenario too. 783 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: You know, they they obviously don't want Russ, but they 784 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: also can't figure out how to move on from Russ 785 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: just yet. That's a nasty situation. That's going to be 786 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: an ugly, ugly separation. I don't know how that's going 787 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: to go down, but it's it's apparent that the two 788 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: sides are trying to set up a conscious uncoupling but 789 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: don't really know how to do it. So we'll see. 790 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: But I just think that circumstances are going to force 791 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Mems to be on the field a lot more 792 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: next year. I hope what he does with that, you know, we. 793 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: Can, we can doesn't pull what he did last year 794 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: and bringing a bunch of Saints players. 795 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, I mean something. It was going 796 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: to be a free agent, so you know, you go there, 797 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: you go. You run all those same shenanigans in Denver 798 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill. 799 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 3: Wouldn't be He's gonna go over there be a quarterback 800 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: to wide receiver to tight end the running back. 801 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, first place bugs, bunny, left field bugs, Bunny 802 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: shorts up bucks, Bunny. It's gonna be like that with 803 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Anyway, We'll take one more break come back. 804 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna dive into the combine on the field. Some 805 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: of the things that maybe we are looking out for 806 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: and what we expect from this weekend in Indianapolis. That's 807 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So they are 808 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: all hanging out at Lucas Oil Stadium there in Indianapolis, 809 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: and there are guys that are lifting weights and they 810 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: are running and jumping and doing all sorts of things. 811 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: And what is basically a job interview for the upcoming 812 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. So I kind of dive into some of 813 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: the things we're expecting or looking out for coming up 814 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: this weekend. Here are a couple of things that we 815 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: do know early on. Two of the top quarterback prospects, 816 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels aren't going to throw 817 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: at the combine. That really is surprise. That has kind 818 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: of been the way of things with the high level 819 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks lately. They are waiting for their pro day to 820 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: do some things. For a couple of the top wide 821 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: receiver prospects, Marvin Harrison Junior and Malik Neighbors, they are 822 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: not expected to work out. They are going to be 823 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I believe they're going to go through the 824 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: interview process and all those other things, but not going 825 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: to work out. I mean, I think if you are 826 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: one or both of those guys, you were pretty much 827 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: locked into being a top ten pick. There's probably more 828 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: risk than reward to working out at the combine, so 829 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: those guys are not going to do that. So so 830 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: some have a question. I mean, Floria, what sorts of 831 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: things do you look for from players at the combine? 832 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 2: I think the combine is and I know people listening 833 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: to this probably like I think it's a little overrated. 834 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: I think it's cool to see them out there and 835 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: running and stuff like that, but at the same point 836 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: in time, like to me, I think so much of 837 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 2: what makes the combine special is what happens that we 838 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,959 Speaker 2: don't see on TV, like like talking to the teams. 839 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: And the interview process and all of that. 840 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: It kind of is like the Winter the Football's version 841 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: of the Winter Meetings, where like everyone is in one 842 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: place and so a lot happens because you're talking and 843 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: stuff like that. But I mean, I'm not the kind 844 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: of person that's gonna be sitting there like he ran 845 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: a four or five one and out a four four nine. 846 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: I'm not like no, Like to me that I understand 847 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: if you have models and stuff like that, that works 848 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: and the nextion status uses all of it. To make 849 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 2: like one big grade. I love that tool, so I 850 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: get excited when that happens with the combine. But the 851 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 2: only thing I think that happens largely is players can 852 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: hurt their. 853 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: Value more than anything. 854 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: Like I think back to Elijah Holyfield all the time 855 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: that he was like a running back that was pretty 856 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: highly viewed and then he ran a four to seven 857 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: and he never sniffed the NFL. But for the most part, 858 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 2: like I understand why Caleb and Daniels and Marvin Harrison 859 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: aren't working out because what what do these guys. 860 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: Have to gain right now? Like their tape speaks for itself. 861 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, to that point, Lakwan and Floya touched on 862 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: something that I've been kind of feeling the last couple 863 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: of days. I'm not gonna say that the combine is 864 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: it's not irrelevant, right because there are definitely guys from 865 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: smaller schools that maybe don't get as much of attention, 866 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: or guys that are kind of, you know, fringe draft 867 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: guys who can maybe move up around or two. So 868 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: there's still some value for a lot of players here. 869 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: But in an age now where I mean one, it 870 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: seems like nearly every college football game is on television. 871 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: With social media and all these different platforms, you can 872 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: watch a guy's tape. You can scout pretty much anybody. Look, 873 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: we can see out, I mean, the Threeas can scout 874 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: anybody pretty much from our homes at this point, right right. 875 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, you know, my tape watching skills 876 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: are on the level of you know, Daniel Jeremiah or 877 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: a high level scout or anybody like that, but we 878 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: can watch all these guys. We got to a point 879 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: where the Combine generally has lost a lot of its luster, 880 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: at least it comes to the on field drills. Yeah, 881 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree. 882 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean I kind of watch it just to see 883 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 3: the guys that I go into combine like really excited about. 884 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 3: Just to see where they weigh in, if they gain 885 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 3: some weight, especially for a running back, or if there's 886 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 3: a wide receiver that runs like a four to three 887 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 3: or four to four, whatever the case may be, Like, 888 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 3: oh this guy's quick. You know some of the like 889 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 3: lower level guys that aren't getting talked up enough, Like 890 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 3: I really don't watch the Combine for guys that are 891 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 3: just already you know, top ten picks or like the 892 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 3: solid guys it's the guys that you know, fall under 893 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 3: the radar, Like, for example, Cooper cup I was just 894 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: watching his combine drills, like nobody was really like excited 895 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: about him, and then he's making history, you know, a 896 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: couple of seasons later. Like those are the guys that, 897 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 3: you know, I really look for the guys that aren't 898 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 3: really being talked about enough, and you know, they kind 899 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: of show up and show out and then kind of 900 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 3: rises their fantasy stock and kind of rises their draft 901 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: stock as well. 902 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's for me. The thing at the 903 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Combine is i'd send to sort of wait till after 904 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: the fact and see the guys who maybe had a 905 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: good workout that may I didn't watch or didn't know 906 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: so much about before. And then it's like, look, I 907 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: watched the Combine the same way I watched the Oscars, 908 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: right like, it tells me what I need to go 909 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: back and watch that maybe I missed earlier right here, 910 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: never heard of it. Yeah, it was like, hey man, 911 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: this movie one a whole lot of Wars. I didn't 912 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: see it. Maybe I'll you know, you know, pay the 913 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: four bucks or whatever to stream it or something like that. 914 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, like that's sort of how I look at 915 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: the combine. It's like the guys who have a big 916 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 1: weekend that maybe I didn't pay a lot of attention 917 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: to or hadn't really heard much about. Those are the 918 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: guys I go back and watch. But beyond that, I think, 919 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, and we talked about this a lot, Mike, 920 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: that so much has to do with landing spots for 921 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: these guys. That the athleticism. The athleticism is one thing, 922 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 1: and it's it's great when a dude has a great 923 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: forty time. Look, I remember, I remember when DK Metcalf 924 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: had a bad shuttle run and people were like, oh 925 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: my god, what's this guy gonna do in the NFL, 926 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: Like he needs to go take some yoga classes because 927 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: he's got tight hips or whatever. DK Metcalf has been 928 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: just fine. He's been just fine. 929 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I use it like you do, Marcus. But 930 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: I also think he could be a trap in some 931 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 2: senses because after Marvin Mims last year ran a four 932 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: to three, he's now on everyone's radar and he's getting 933 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: pulled up the board and that didn't work out at 934 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: all for fantasy purposes. So I'm with like, I think 935 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: I agree with both of you like it. I use it. 936 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 2: It's a tool to use and to see who stands 937 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: out and more so to be like, oh maybe I 938 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: overlooked this person and like a couple of years ago, 939 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 2: that's that's how I was. Like, I was pretty high 940 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: on like Khalil Shakir coming out his year or Calvin 941 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: Austin that one didn't work out, but like those are 942 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 2: players that I was like, Okay, I didn't know these 943 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: guys before the combine. 944 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm watching them. I like them. 945 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: But more than that is exactly what you say, like 946 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: landing spot, opportunity, all of that greatly matters way more. 947 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: Two words, Andy Isabella. Yep, Andy Isabella, that's a dig. 948 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: That's it, all right. So I mean, look, all that 949 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: being said, we know that a lot of people still 950 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: get hyped on the combine. A lot of people, as 951 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned Florio, have their models. They can plug in 952 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: the numbers and they can sort of make evaluations. And 953 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: there are a lot of us sikos who are doing drafts, 954 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: doing mox, doing real drafts. A lot of the Dynasty 955 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: folks have already tapped I mean they tapped in pretty 956 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: much once the regular season ended. Yeah, I mean Lakwan, 957 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 1: how much do you expect anybody to move in Dynasty 958 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: ranks post combine? Do you think we're gonna see a 959 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: lot of movement there? 960 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: Probably not see a ton, not a ton of movement 961 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: from guys that you know that we already know about. 962 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 3: But more or less, it's gonna be what it is. 963 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: Like there might be some movement for some guys in Dynasty, 964 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 3: like some of the guys that had question marks, but 965 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 3: more or less, we're gonna get what we got and 966 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 3: then until Draft Day and April, that's when stuff starts 967 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 3: really getting crazy moved around. 968 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably right last thing as both of you guys 969 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: started with you Florio in particular. Yeah, Like I know 970 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily super dialed in or plugged in. Is 971 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: there anybody that maybe you just gotta kind of keep 972 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: an eye on see what they do at the at 973 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: the combine? This week? 974 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: For me, it's it's the wide receivers after the big three, 975 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 2: like we we all know, in whichever order you want 976 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: to put him in, like Harrison Neighbors donsay, seem like 977 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 2: the locked and loaded top three in this class. But 978 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 2: I do think there's a lot of talent after so 979 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 2: like Brian Thomas Junior, Troy Franklin, McConkey. There there's Walker, 980 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 2: There's Coleman, there's Mitchell. There's a like a few slot 981 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 2: guys that I've been looking into a bit that I like. 982 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: So to me, I want to see what these secondary 983 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: receivers do, because I do think there's gonna be a 984 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: ton of wide receivers in the first two rounds this year, 985 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 2: and how those guys could separate themselves and stuff. But 986 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: even more than that, like I look forward to hearing 987 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: what we don't see, Like what like Daniel Jeremiah next 988 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: week is gonna come back and be like, Oh, this 989 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 2: player really impressed teams and this team and other sources 990 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So to me, I think that 991 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: information that comes out of the combine is almost just 992 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,760 Speaker 2: as useful as what these guys are measuring on the field. 993 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody you're looking out for LQ. 994 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was gonna hit on the wide 995 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 3: receivers too. I mean jayvon Baker from UCF, I mean 996 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 3: mal Klye Corley. I mean these are guys that I 997 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 3: hope test well and kind of raises their draft stock 998 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 3: so they can get in a position because I think 999 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 3: these guys could be difference makers on day one if 1000 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 3: they get in a team camp then needs a secondary 1001 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 3: wide receiver. And I really feel like there's a ton 1002 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 3: of teams out there that needs a wide receiver too, 1003 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 3: that can just produce. I mean, like Malachi, this guy's 1004 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 3: a yakyard. I mean he's a slot wide receiver, a 1005 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 3: reliable target, and he makes some really difficult catches. What 1006 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 3: team is not going to be looking for a guy 1007 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 3: like that that can produce on day one? And he's 1008 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 3: like lower in the list of all the big you know, 1009 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 3: top ten, top seven, you know wide receiver prospects everyone 1010 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: talked about. So the underdogs like Javon Baker or even 1011 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy, he's up there somewhat in the top ten 1012 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 3: of guys getting talked about. He's a speeds there. So 1013 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 3: there's a ton of ton of guys that are outside 1014 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 3: the big the big names. I mean, running back wise, 1015 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking at Bucky Irvin. I mean, he's going to 1016 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 3: be like a PPR guy. I just need him to 1017 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 3: put it on a little bit more weight and hopefully 1018 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 3: in the combine he shows up at two hundred two 1019 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 3: of five or whatever. So just he's a guy that 1020 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 3: can really really help out a passing game if they're 1021 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: looking for running back that can keep his head on 1022 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: the swobwl, getting open space and be explosive. 1023 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple of names that I have 1024 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: in mind. Why is JJ McCarthy just because he's become 1025 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting talking point I think at the 1026 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: last week, so he really has been. You know, the 1027 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: buzz early on was that NFL teams liked him a 1028 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: lot more than you know, fans and scouts seem to. 1029 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: So like, this is a chance to go out and 1030 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: sort of perform a little bit. Now. Granted, look, I 1031 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: think in the end it pays to go back to 1032 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: the tape to watch what he did at Michigan, But 1033 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: you know that the charge level against him has been 1034 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: that he didn't necessarily have to do a ton because 1035 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: he had so much talent around him on that Michigan team. 1036 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: So this is a chance to kind of show out 1037 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: a little bit to see what he can do. I 1038 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: think same sort of from Michael Pinnox of a Pinnix 1039 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: sort of has the you know, he's got the age 1040 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: issue working against him, the fact that he spent so 1041 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,959 Speaker 1: many years in college he had a number of injury issues. 1042 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: He can't, unfortunately turn back the clock on some of 1043 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: those things, but I do want to see him perform. 1044 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: I've been part of me being a little bit of 1045 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: a homer here. I want to see Marshawn Lloyd, who 1046 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: was a guy that I mean, obviously I watched a 1047 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: lot of USC football, but he was a guy that 1048 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: I loved that I felt like sometimes they went away 1049 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: from him when they probably should have given him the 1050 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 1: ball more like it felt there were times that Lincoln 1051 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: Riley really was out to try and win Caleb Williams 1052 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: another heisman, or sometimes just put too much on Caleb's 1053 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: plate when maybe they should have gone with Marshaw Lloyd 1054 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he's a talented back who 1055 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: maybe didn't get as many opportunities as he probably should 1056 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: have in the course of that offense. So I just 1057 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: want to see what he tests like. I just want 1058 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: to see how athletic he is. I've seen him, I 1059 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: like him. I just want to see what he does, 1060 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: uh sort of on this stage, because again I think 1061 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: he's talented, but also fight on because I'm a homer, 1062 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: so I think bo Nicks is an interesting one. He's 1063 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: another one too. Yeah, he wasn't. 1064 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 2: Asked to do a whole bunch in college, but he 1065 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 2: has the physical tools. 1066 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: Which is funny. I sort of heard people talk that 1067 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: maybe the Rams go out and draft bow Knicks, but 1068 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: I laugh because the Rams already drafted Stetson Bennett, and 1069 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: bo Nix is sort of Stetson Bennett two point zero, 1070 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: another guy who's like already old and was in college 1071 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 1: for like eleventy years, So why would and like the 1072 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: Rams like, is stetson' Bennet ever gonna He's never gonna play? 1073 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean there's been no update. 1074 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 3: That's the quote from Sean McVay, as like last week, 1075 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 3: there's no update, and then it needs to. 1076 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: Be enough ta He's just often the void somewhere right. 1077 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: Bo Knicks makes so much sense because I don't know 1078 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 2: if you guys remember last August when Matthew Stafford was like, 1079 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: this team is too young. I'm having trouble connecting. 1080 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: Man, I'm not of that. But all jokes aside, I 1081 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: am curious to see to see bow Nicks perform. He's 1082 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: twenty four years old, he just turned He just turned 1083 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: twenty four a couple of days ago. So yeah, take 1084 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: the contract till he's thirty. The clock is ticking. 1085 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 3: Young man still under his mom's insurance, probably. 1086 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: At least for another year. He is another year, so 1087 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: he is absolutely So all right, there you go. That's 1088 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: a sort of our take on the combine. Next week 1089 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: we'll come back and we will sort of try to 1090 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: break down what we saw, what we learned, all that 1091 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, and then one of the fun, good 1092 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: things we can laugh and poke about next week after 1093 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: the combine is over. So that'll do it for this 1094 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 1: edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy, Safe, 1095 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: and Healthy, Do good, and live well. Enjoy your extra day. 1096 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: You're in twenty twenty four, everybody, and we will talk 1097 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: to you next week.