1 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Bally Bett, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts, 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Listen are alive on a Monday. This should of Cleveland 7 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the great Z. 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: We are in the precipice of Gibbe's Christmas. 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: There's no doubt Gibbet's favorite weakness is yeah, I think, 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: and in fact, he likes it so much. It would 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: be like as if a kid who was really juice 12 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: for Christmas and sane was like, you know what, We're 13 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: actually gonna do this on the twenty third to help 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: to heckle therrestia that are starting it on the twenty fifth. 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm doing this on the twenty third. I can't wait anymore. 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: Gibbe is already there or any I don't know. I 17 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: think he's there all right. 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: He left Saturday. 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably left Saturday. 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right over there, just to get loaded in. 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Just to get yeah, get the whole experience going. Yeah, 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's such a it's so classic. 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: It's classic Gibbet for those who know him and love 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: him like we do, it is Yeah, he's he's so excited. 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: I think that one of the things that has been 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: hysterical to me and the lead up to this is, 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: you know, we know Shador's not throwing. I'm sure cam 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: Ward's not gonna throw. Yeah, And my Dad's like, if 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: somebody won't throw at the Combine, I'm not drafting him. 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: And then I just reminded my father that last year, 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: last year, Caleb Jaden Drake May didn't throw. I said, 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: you know, Burrow didn't throw. Kyle, No, no top picks 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: have thrown in years. I was here. I was here 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: that you had that when you started that story. Yeah. Years, 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, Dad, what are you talking about? He's like, okay, 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: all right. 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Fine, who's the last number one type bake through right? 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Was he the pretty sure bake did throw? Kyler did not? 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: I look that up, So we didn't Burrow. 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't predetermined the bake year that he was going one, Like, 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: he wasn't even really a thought of him going one 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: probably until the combine. No, most don't though, and hello, 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: there's there's it's not worth the squeeze for them. 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: So there's been a lot stuff going around. And I 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: can't wait to talk to Dane because Dane is not 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: a Chador fan, and when he's not throwing, he's like, hey, 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to Somebody said something about it, he 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: doesn't want to throw next to his peers, and Dane, 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: I think, said something like facts like, I mean, he 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: cam word clearly has a stronger arm than him on tape. 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: But the notion that he can't throw the football and 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: would be embarrassed to throw the ball like is nuts. 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, he's going to throw it at 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: a pro day, so people are still gonna see him 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: throw the ball. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I 56 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 3: don't get There's it's interesting what's going on. It's really 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: interesting what's kind of going on with this whole quarterback 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: discussion and situation and whatnot. We're gonna have some fun 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: thing or things thing or not of things later on 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: in the show. But I think for the Browns, as 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: I've said all along, this is my opinion. 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: Me. 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: My opinion is that those two quarterbacks are certainly both 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: worthy of the second pick in the draft. There's a 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: lot of talk that the Titans and where That's one 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: of the things I'm so excited to go there for 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: because this one was like, we need to find out, okay, 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: what are the Titans doing? And typically coming out of 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: the combine, we'll have a pretty good idea if I'm 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm of the opinion. Again, this is just me, this 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: is Nathan's girl. I'm of the opinion. And by the way, 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: I like all the people who like, dude, you just 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: watch what like two YouTube highlights? No, I didn't do that. 74 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: Would you know about anything? I'm like, well, okay, okay, 75 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: all right, what do you you list? I'm not saying 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: I have all the answers at all at all. It 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: is an inexiety science. The best people in the world 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. But you're looking for certain 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: things that you can identify on tape that you believe 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: would translate to the next level. And I had an 81 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: opportunity to have watched film with many, many, many, many 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: coaches and gms, and there was many, many moons ago, 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: but we're over a decade now. I did quarterback scouting 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: for a GM, so again, not one I will tell 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: you that I was going through some of my old 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen draft notes, and there is a thing of 87 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: something about your jo that reminds you of somebody who 88 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: I absolutely loved in that draft and who I think 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: is His career is a little bit of a what 90 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: if to me, and I'm sure to say. 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: It, don't say it, and I bet I can guess. 92 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Teddy, Yeah, of course Theodore. So I think he 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: has a better arm than than Theodore, who I loved 94 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: and I thought was in terms of this kind of 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: an offense where you're talking about a guy that you 96 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: need to be able to see it, diagnose it, deliver 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: the football, throw with anticipation, throw it on time, to 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: be accurate, all those things. Teddy certainly could do that. 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people forget Teddy Bridgewater's 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: career has looked at, you know, rather unfavorably, I guess, 101 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: in the sense that you know, he never became like 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl type of a quarterback. But I don't 103 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: know how many people remember that Teddy Bridgewater, first of all, 104 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 3: has been able to stay in the league for ten 105 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: years and in twenty fifteen he was a Pro Bowler. 106 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: He went eleven and five took them to the playoffs, 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: and I don't know how. And then I'll go one 108 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: step further. I don't know how many people remember this, 109 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure the answer is zero h or 110 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: very few. In that playoff game against the Legion of Boom, 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: this is peak Legion of Boom twenty fifteen, playing outdoors. 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: They're outdoors in Minnesota in insanely frigid temperatures. Yep, the 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: numbers are not going to pop like they're not eye popping. 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: But he went seventeen to twenty four, seventy one percent, 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty six yards. If you understand the conditions, 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: those are incredibly impressive. But what was more impressive about 117 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: it was in that game they ended up losing the game. 118 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to see if I can. I don't remember 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: exactly the score. Let's see. If I pull it this way, 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: I'll get it. So they lose that game in the 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: frigid temperatures ten to nine, and I don't know if 122 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: people remember, but the game ended when the Minnesota Vikings 123 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: had the ball, Teddy Bridgewater had to throw them down 124 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: the field, which he did against the Again, this is 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: peak Legion of Boom. We're talking Sherman, Thomas, Bam, Bam Cam, 126 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: all of it. So he leads them down on a 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: last second on a game winning drive. They get down 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: to I want to say the thirty or it's like 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: a thirty yard field goal and Blair Walsh missed it. Yeah, 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: So the last time that he was on a field 131 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: as a starter in his second year in the playoffs, 132 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: he led a game win which should have been a 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: game with drab Blaiirwash. It was maybe like a twenty 134 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: something or thirty yards, remember, and it derailed Blair Walsh's 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: career like it did ye. Blair Walsh had been really 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: really good and then that was good night Irene on 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: him lost his It was a twenty seven yard field goal. 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: So they come out with a minute forty two against 139 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: the Legion of Boom. He gets a pass interference, a 140 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: completion of Kyle Rudolph for twenty four yards, couple ap 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: runs and that completion of Kyle Rudolph got him down 142 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: pretty good into the territory, down to the Seattle eighteen 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: and then Boom twenty seven yard field goal which he misses. 144 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: Which twenty seven yard field goal, folks, if you're doing 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: the math means they were at the nine yard line. 146 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: So he gets them into what should have a sure win. 147 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: They miss it, and then he suffers at the beginning 148 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: of twenty and sixteen in camp I think it was. 149 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: It was Campe the most stopped practice. 150 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: People were crying, vomiting. Yes, the one of the most 151 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: horrific injuries that have ever been suffered by a player. 152 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: And Kevin's fancy even refuses to talk about this day. 153 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: And so he he never gets to kind of continue 154 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: that momentum because of a freak injury. So he misses 155 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: the entirety of twenty sixteen. He basically misses the entirety 156 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: of twenty seventeen. He's not a starter again until twenty 157 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: nineteen in New Orleans, where he goes five and oh 158 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: that season. The point is Teddy Bridgewater was on an 159 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: ascent as a quarterback. You know, he's got a career 160 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,359 Speaker 3: rating of ninety point five, he's got sixty six percent completions, 161 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: he's got a career. He was on the ascent and 162 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: he was coming off. He was a pro bowler in 163 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: twenty and fifteen. So to me, when somebody says that, 164 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's an insult. 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: Shouldn't be. 166 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: There's a lot to like about Teddy Bridgewater's game, And 167 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: how about the fact the guy coached high school football 168 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: this year? Goff gets hurt, he comes in for one play, 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: one play and completes a pass on a third down 170 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: to pick up a first down for the Lions in 171 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four after being a high school football coach 172 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: for the for. 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: The year he was at Miami Northwestern I think. 174 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: Right, which was where he and Amari Cooper played. Yeah, 175 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: so that's I think he's got more maybe gifts than 176 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: Teddy had. But there's a lot in terms of the 177 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: cerebral approach to his game that are very similar. And 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 3: I think, you know, just tying it back again is 179 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: something we can ask you know, Kevin about at the combine. 180 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: I know Kevin like Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, so it feels 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: like that is somebody that would fit. So there are 182 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: these narratives now and as you get closer you never know, 183 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: but that you know there are still people like Bucky Brooks, 184 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: for example, and others who have Chadors their number one quarterback, 185 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: but most people have cam as a number one quarterback. 186 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: And I've been of the opinion that cam Word is 187 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: the more talented piece of clay just in terms of 188 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: the physical attributes and gifts, but that I really like 189 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: Chador for our offense. If there is a scenario in 190 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: which and it sounds like a lot of people believe 191 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: at this point that Tennessee is not taking a quarterback. 192 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: It does, yeah, which is surprising to me. 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: Shocking to me too. But that's the reason that I 194 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: feel like there might be some merit to that is 195 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: that you wouldn't necessarily want that out there unless you 196 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: wanted it out there because you want people that want 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: a quarterback to come up and jump the Browns. 198 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 199 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: So again, Nathan ziggera me. I like both these guys, 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: and I'd be happy with either one of them. A two. 201 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: I would think that there that maybe Kevin sees some 202 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: of that in in Chador in the event that the 203 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: Browns are all in on cam Ward and just say like, Okay, 204 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: that's it, that's the guy that that we have to get. 205 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm seeing what it takes to get three thirds. I'm 206 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: seeing what it takes to get number one, because I remember 207 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen Tennessee had the number one pick. We 208 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 3: were number two, everybody was like, oh, they had just 209 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: drafted Mariota. We wanted golf. We're gonna get golf. I know, 210 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: we wanted golf. And then all of a sudden the 211 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: Rams jump up, and then that sets off a bunch 212 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: of different trades that end up with the Browns taking 213 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, Corey Coleman in that draft. If that is 214 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: the case, I don't. I don't believe that it is 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: the case. But if it were the case that the 216 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: Browns were like, it's cam Ord or nothing at quarterback, 217 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: then go then go up there, olda that make sure 218 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: you have that pick, yes, make sure you need that pick. 219 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: And then now there's a Matt Stafford stuff out there 220 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: bo which is interesting. So I don't know how we 221 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: do it. 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: We couldn't do it, Pete, I know that I don't 223 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: see any scenario where we could do it financially. I 224 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: don't know that I see no scenario how we could. 225 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: Obviously you would be interested. First of all, let's all right, 226 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: so those of you don't know that the Los Angeles 227 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Rams have granted Matthew Stafford's camp permission to speak with 228 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: other teams to gauge the value that he has around 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: the league. He is thirty seven years old. I for 230 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: the life of me, cannot understand why he or the 231 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: Rams would want to part ways for any reason other 232 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: than he feels like he needs to be compensated more 233 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: greatly for the work that he does, and that the 234 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: Rams are unwilling to do so to compensate a thirty 235 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: seven year old anymore. So it has to come down 236 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: to money. It can't come down to play. It cannot 237 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: come down to situation. Because they played Philly as tough 238 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: as anybody, yep, in the postseason. They're not that far off. 239 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: They landed both of their defensive players they drafted in 240 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: last year's draft. They have a nice young defense. They 241 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: got weapons in Nakua good good Back. They got kind 242 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: of everything to good Backs really, so like they're close. 243 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: So if he out, that tells me that's a financial decision, 244 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: in which case he's probably gonna want fifty million dollars 245 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: a year. So if you trade for him, you have 246 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: to have the ammunition to trade for him, and then 247 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: you have to be able to pay him fifty million 248 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: dollars a year on a new contract. So who can 249 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: do that? 250 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, you could do it 251 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: in the sense that you could create a contract with 252 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: him that has a very low early number, has a 253 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: high cash number, you'd trade for him, sign him to 254 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: an extension, and you'd be able to kind of defer 255 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: the big payments for a couple of years. But my 256 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: thought on that is, I don't know if the Browns 257 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: would be able to do that without also restructuring Deshaun's contract, 258 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: and so then you're gonna get to a point in 259 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: a few years where I don't know what you would 260 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: be able to do. Now from the Rams standpoint, this 261 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: is per over the cap. If they trade him with 262 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: a pre pre June first, it's a forty five million 263 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: dead cap hit this year and a twenty two million 264 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: dollars dead cap next year. They would save four million 265 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: against the cap this year and thirty one million against 266 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: the cap the following year. If they traded him post 267 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: June first, it's twenty two point six million dead cap 268 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: for the Rams in twenty five and twenty six, with 269 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: twenty seven millions of savings this year thirty one million 270 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: of savings in the next season. Because the team that 271 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: would take him would would take that on again, I 272 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: don't see that happening at all. I don't they get 273 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: the same savings obviously if they cut him post June. 274 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: First of I don't see why they would cut him 275 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: and carry forty forty. I just don't see it happening. 276 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: So this is a it's a strange one in the 277 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: sense that I don't see it going. But now there's 278 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: a lot of thought that they're gonna trade Stafford. And 279 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: then I saw something today it says they want to 280 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: trade Stafford, and then they want to go make a 281 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: run at Sam Darnold because he's younger. 282 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: He's younger, I guess, but I don't. I mean, that's 283 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: just a crazy that would seem to me. I mean, 284 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: they would know him. They obviously know Darnald as well 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: as anybody. He's younger, They know exactly what he can 286 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: and can't do. And he's very good this year. He's 287 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: very good, very very good. Yeah, this is it's all 288 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: seemed strange to me. I was trying to think of 289 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: like the landing spots for Stafford that made any sense. 290 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: And obviously, like he is going to have say in 291 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: where he goes. He's not just going to go anywhere. 292 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: You can't just send him to the highest bidder. So 293 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: then you start to say, okay, well what are spots? 294 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people think giants. We 295 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: get linked there a lot. We went over the challenges 296 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: of that. Pittsburgh obviously makes a ton of sense. I 297 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: have no idea what their cap situation is, and I 298 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: don't want him there, but it feels like that would 299 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: And then obviously the Raiders have no real path at quarterback, 300 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: and they would have the they'd have the tight end. 301 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: It's Vegas, it's tax free, Like there's a lot to 302 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: like about that. Even though the roster is a mess 303 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: and the divisions a little bit of a mess, Where 304 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: does it make sense for him? Who is a team that? 305 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to go. I keep trying to 306 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: get back to like the NFC South and AFC South 307 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: because I think those two divisions are the most immediately winnable. 308 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: You brought up the Colts last week as one made 309 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: some sense. Maybe Tennessee makes sense, but they don't really 310 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: have any weapons. Yeah, and he's in that's Nashville. 311 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're Tennessee number one, you could go 312 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: take trade for Stafford. Okay, trade, I would trade out 313 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: of one at that point and move down, and you're 314 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: hoping to move down to two, three or six are 315 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: the likely spots that you go pick up something else 316 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: and then you can take at two, three or six. 317 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: My guess is you'll have the opportunity to take one 318 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: of Hunter or McMillan if you wanted to, and then 319 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now you've got Calvernley one side, 320 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: Hunter McMillan the other. Tony Pollard ran the ball very 321 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: effectively for them last year. They got a Quan Quote, 322 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: they got Westbrook, a Kine. They've got some decent, decent 323 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: guys that they. 324 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: So that's another one. That's another spot, is there? I 325 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: like your vote of Indy in the NFC South. The 326 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: only one that made any sense to me was Atlanta. 327 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: But then are you do you sit Panis out for 328 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: two years? 329 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: What about New Orleans? New Orleans? You like? You bring 330 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: him in. You're getting back a lave, You're getting back 331 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: Rashid Shahid. You've got Kamara, Yeah, Jawan Johnson at tight end. 332 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: It's a division that's winnable. He'd be in a dome. 333 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: I also think, yeah, I also think can I envision 334 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: Stafford and his wife in that market? 335 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: In that vision and l in New Orleans. 336 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I could obviously Atlanta, New Orleans, Nashville makes 337 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: a ton of sense. That would fit Indy less so, 338 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh less so, yes, US less so US less so 339 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: Giants seems like it would be less maybe though you 340 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: never know. But yeah, that's so that's the job. But 341 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that is. We'll just do this here. 342 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: That's what the combine is now really all about. It's 343 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: really the business of the NFL. It's less about what's 344 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: gonna happen this weekend with these guys throwing and running 345 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: in cone drills and all this nonsense. The tape's the tape. 346 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: Ninety percent of the evaluation is the tape. This is 347 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: about medicals. It's about one more chance to talk to 348 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: these guys. But what the combine really is is the 349 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: NFL coming together and conversations taking place that otherwise wouldn't. 350 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: Conversations past you know, ten o'clock at night at hotel 351 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: bars and the various establishments around downtown Indianapolis that get 352 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: conversation going that say, oh, I didn't know he was available. 353 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: That's really what the combine's about. 354 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's about meetings and talking and scuttle butt 355 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 3: and all of those things. And yeah, for the players 356 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: is meeting with the teams and you know, yes that 357 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: you want to see what you're hoping at. The combine 358 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: is and I think Andrew Berry said is for war 359 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: is you know, kind of confirmation that okay, we see 360 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: him run this way on tape. Is that what the 361 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: numbers say is you know, are the medicals do they 362 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: all check out? So yeah, that's kind of that's where 363 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: we are on the combine and the value. And I 364 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: think for us having the second pick in a draft 365 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: that you know, we believe as two quarterbacks in it, 366 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: that you know, what happens above us is very very important. Yeah, 367 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: because it's a big domino piece. And I again, I 368 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: think that if we're in the you know, one quarterback market, 369 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: if we think it's a one quarterback draft, then go 370 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: get that guy. If we do think it's a two 371 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: quarterback draft, then we're in the We're in the We're 372 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: in a great spot, doesn't matter. I also think that 373 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: there is a world out there in which we mentioned 374 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: Sam Donald earlier, and we'll again we'll talk about it 375 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: later in the show, but there is a little bit 376 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: of more talk about this than I thought would be 377 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 3: possible that the Vikings might just roll with Sam Darnold, 378 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: bring him back and trade McCarthy. Now that's the case, 379 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: certainly I would be interested in that. All that guy 380 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: does is win. Yeah, I mean that guy is a winner. 381 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: And I mean when you say win, you mean every 382 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: level he's ever played, he's won the biggest championship there 383 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: is to win. 384 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, that would be and in a in 385 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: a draft that it feels like they're a Shaduer and 386 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: Cam and then a decent little drop off, he would 387 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: jump right in the middle of that. Now he comes 388 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: with some baggage. He was hurt last year obviously in 389 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: camp and then re injured or they had to do 390 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: a second surgery midway through last season, So there's there 391 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: is some health issues there that you would want to 392 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: have some you get the physical and get those things 393 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: sorted out. But yeah, those are the type of conversations 394 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: you're certainly going to get. You'll get a better feel 395 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: for where the league sits on these high level matters. 396 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: I mean, this Stafford thing being kind of thrown in 397 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: the middle of this is a is a major story. 398 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: The week before the combine that this thing has been 399 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: kind of put out there and how available is he? 400 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: What would it take to get him? Who's actually interested, 401 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: who would give him an extension? Those type of things 402 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: are going to be part of it, you know, a team. 403 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: What about Miami for him? 404 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: I think that would be great for him if I 405 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: was him. Yeah, absolutely, And. 406 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Then I wonder like, could would TUA go back the 407 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: other way with the Rams have an interest in that? 408 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. So this is kind of a this 409 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: is a quick AI summary of what's going on. So 410 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: it says Stafford is now it's center of intense contract negotiations. 411 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: He wants an annual salary more than fifty I mean, 412 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: how many years do you think that he believes he 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: has left? Three? 414 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: Probably two or three? 415 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, interest of teams like the Brown Steelers, Giants, Raiders, 416 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: des by his willingness, negotiated a lower salary to say 417 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: what the RAMS situation is evolved, They're exploring trade options. 418 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: Sparked widespread discussion on his market value to by conte 419 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: his with whether it's performance justify such a high salary. 420 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: With the caliph on the rise, decisions could significant shape 421 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: the leagu's quarterback landscape. Yes, exactly. Miami to me was 422 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: the one always that when we talked about this, whenever 423 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: we've kind of talked about him, or even honestly with 424 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: DeShawn when it was in the mix and we thought 425 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: that we were not you know, in the mix. There 426 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: the old Salmon analogy that that Miami was one that 427 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 3: made the most sense all along. Yes, you know, yeah, 428 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: all along. And you know it's wild to think that, 429 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: you know, if Miami and that draft had gotten up 430 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: one spot and they had Herbert there with those guys 431 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: his size, it just feels like that would have been 432 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: so good. Yeah, but we'll see. I'm curious, I'm I'm 433 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: curious how this all plays out. But yeah, that would 434 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: be a great spot for him. I think that, you know, 435 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: Rogers or Darnold would make a lot of sense if 436 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: they did go that direction. I am kind of interested 437 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: in hearing, you know, is any of this real? You know, 438 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: we can I guarantee you and I if we bump 439 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: into like Quazy on the side and are like, oh, yeah, 440 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: are you guys even thinking about this? 441 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: He would tell us Yeah, there's no question. 442 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I guess my guess is they're not. 443 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: I guess is they're not thinking about it, but if 444 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: it would be an interesting thing. Now if you're the Browns, 445 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: let's just walk through it from just our perspective, since 446 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: we've got two hours here before we actually get there, 447 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: and maybe get some answers some of these queries. I 448 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: don't think you give up the number two pick for him. 449 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: No, because otherwise Yeah, No, I don't think so either, 450 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: because you need that to build the rest. 451 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: Of this first and that's a more that's a better 452 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: asset than was used on him coming out of college healthy. Yeah, 453 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: and now it's a year later and we don't know. 454 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously imagine he was healthy if you're making 455 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: this kind of a trade for him. But you know, 456 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's a package that you could put 457 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: together that would have, you know, maybe this year's two, yeah, 458 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: or three this year and a one next year. Yeah, 459 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: you know, something like that. It would be an interesting 460 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: situation to see what you're doing now. This really the 461 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: truth is thirty three this year is it's not it 462 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: is not a first round pick, but it's it's pretty 463 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: arn close, and it would give a team the ability 464 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: to pretty easily get into the first round and get 465 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: a fifth year option on that pick. 466 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So I. 467 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: Think there are there are a lot of There are 468 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: a lot of possibilities out there. The easiest thing, right 469 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: that requires nothing from you in terms of giving up 470 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 3: any assets at all. Let's do draft a quarterback at 471 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: two or to move up from two to one. Like 472 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: I do think there's a world in which if you're 473 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: the Titans and you go from one to that, maybe 474 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: we could do that for a third for what if 475 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: they're not taking the guy who like they still if 476 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: there's another quarterback, team could make a trade out. 477 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: At two, Yes they could. Yeah, Like the. 478 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: Browns the year that they were in two when the 479 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: quarterback got you served went from two to eight, eight 480 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: to sixteen, and that got them all the picks in 481 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: seventeen when the Browns drafted in that first round Miles 482 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: Jabril Peppers and David Njoku and you know, obviously going 483 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: back in that draft and playing you know, fake draft 484 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: GM you had it, there are a lot of ways 485 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: that draft could have gone that could have completely turned 486 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: this franchise around. 487 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think the moral of the story of 488 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: the draft is if you find something you like, go 489 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: get it. Yeah, and especially at the quarterback position. If 490 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: you find something, absolutely go get it. But you're going 491 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of this relatively quickly over 492 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: there in terms of who's available and what teams are leaning. 493 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: It's honest. I was trying to describe this to the boys. 494 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: They were asking me a little bit about, you know, 495 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: what the combine's like, and I kind of struggled to 496 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: explain it. But and the more I thought about it, 497 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: if you've been to like a big concert or comedy 498 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: show in the last few years, you know how like 499 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: they take your phones and they put them in a 500 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: sealed container so you can't have access to them, so 501 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: you can't video stuff if it's gonna go on Netflix 502 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. That's kind of what happens at the combine. 503 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Except and then combine that with like a bunch of 504 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: little kids who can't keep secrets, so it's like little 505 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: kids who can't keep secrets. And then also none of 506 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: the really big stuff gets out of the bubble. Everything 507 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: kind of stays contained in Indie. I mean, very little 508 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: of the nefarious stuff gets out at all. Like it's 509 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: all quiet on that front, Like it's everybody takes care 510 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: of each other. It's crazy that none of those that 511 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: no one has ever I mean, when's the last time 512 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: you had anything like Dui or any of that stuff 513 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: that never happens, Like it's so. 514 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 3: Well, the good news is you get to walk everywhere. 515 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: You can, which course or bird one of the two. 516 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, so like that part of it is pretty wild. 517 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: And then it's just the worst game of you can't 518 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: keep a secret that you'll ever see. And it's also 519 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: really fun like who could forget Gettleman standing up there 520 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: and say come get. 521 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: Him yep when they caught that at the at during 522 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: the workouts with the Yeah dorse, no, absolutely. 523 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: You know, So that part's fun. 524 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: Like we knew coming out of the combine that Daniel 525 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: Jones is going to be a giant. 526 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: Just as we knew that Justin Herbert was a charger 527 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: and Tua was a dolphin and Kyler Murray was five 528 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: to ten. 529 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: Yep, and going one to the to the Cardinals. Just 530 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: taking Josh Roseen. 531 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: That's probably the biggest one of when you when you landed, 532 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: when you drove into Indy, the entire league thought Cliff 533 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Kingsbury was hired to make the most out of Josh 534 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: Rosen within fifteen minutes, it was abundantly clear that Kyler 535 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: Murray was going number one overall. Yep, that that's about 536 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: how long it took. Yeah, so those are. 537 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: The Once you saw Steve Kaime dress as though he 538 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: were Cliff Kingsbury and not quite the same different paces 539 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: dress that way, it was Ye're like, okay, this is 540 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: what we know how this is going. 541 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: We have some house cleaning here in order. We have 542 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: reportedly parted ways of safety one Thornhill. Mike Garafalo, the 543 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: Browns releasing veteran safety Wan Thornhill, the team in Thornhill's 544 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: camp spoke in recent days the decision has been made 545 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: to part ways now given Thornhill a few weeks before 546 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: free agency defined his next home. Thornhill had one year 547 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: and seven million left on his deal. Unfortunately, availability, right was. 548 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: What God availability and unfortunately production. I mean, this was 549 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: a guy that many people thought was in that free 550 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: agency class, like the best center field free agency to 551 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: play the single high system that we did, and that 552 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: he was going to come here and be great. I mean, 553 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: this was Juan Thornhill. In his four years in Kansas City, 554 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: and his four years in Kansas City averaged two picks, 555 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: five passes defense. He had at least one interception every 556 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: year he was coming off of. In twenty twenty two, 557 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: he was coming off of his best year that year, 558 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: three picks, nine passes defense, the first sack of his career, 559 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: career high, seventy one tackles, career high four tackles for 560 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: a loss, comes to Cleveland and in twenty two games, 561 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: no interceptions, one tackle for a loss, four passes defense, 562 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: which is it's just stunning, and yet the calf bothered 563 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: him in twenty three. Injured again Week one this year, 564 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: was limited to eleven games. His first four years in league, 565 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: he played sixteen back when you could only play sixteen sixteen, sixteen, 566 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: seventeen sixteen, So he'd missed one game in the first 567 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: four seasons. He misses twelve in two seasons with the Browns. 568 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: It's unfortunately, I really liked one and it just never 569 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: worked out the way that you want. Now, the Browns 570 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: are very lucky they signed Ronnie Hickman as an undrafted 571 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: free agent. He'll be in the last year of that 572 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 3: UDFA contract this season, but I would expect he's going 573 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: to be, you know, the favorite to start at safety 574 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: for you this year. And that's another position now with 575 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: not only Thornhill, the release of Rodney McLoud. I know 576 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: they like the Anthony bell A lot, but you're gonna 577 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: need some people in there and probably some veteran savvy 578 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: in there to go with Delpit and those two younger players. 579 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so while it was expected, it's just it's 580 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: one more thing. This is a big you know, like 581 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: when you when you buy build a house or when 582 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: you do like a huge remodel and you have like 583 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: a punch list. Yeah, with like the builder, the contract, 584 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: you're and you're like you walk around, You're like, all right, 585 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: we got to do this. This This like Andrew Berry's 586 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: punch list is long. 587 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: It is it is, and it happens so long punchless. 588 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: It happened quickly. One thing to note about the Thornhill deal, 589 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: and my guess is he will be cut with a 590 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: post June first designation. 591 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 592 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: That would save the Browns three point four million dollars 593 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: on the cap this year and seven million dollars on 594 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: the cap in twenty twenty six, but he would take 595 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: on He will have dead money though, because of the 596 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: way that they structured his contract with the void years 597 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: at the end when they initially signed him to keep 598 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: the initial kind of cap numbers very low, as cap 599 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: numbers for the first two years were two million and 600 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: three million. Yeah, it goes to five million and then 601 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: nine million this year. That's how you get to the 602 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: twenty one total. So he'll carry even if you cut 603 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: him post June first, two point two of dead million 604 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, and then one 605 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: million in twenty eight, So not significant. But if they 606 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: were to cut him before June first, then he's carrying 607 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: sixteen million of dead money over the next three years 608 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: without really any cap relief. So he will absolutely be designated. 609 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: A post June first cut would be my guest. 610 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: All right, this from Mary Kay Joel Botonio is leaning 611 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: a certain way on retirement or not, but it is 612 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: not ready to share anything yet, so Joel knows. So 613 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: who knows what that means. I don't know what that 614 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: means to me. To me, I read that. 615 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: Like this, he's I think he's coming back, And. 616 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: Then what hops Hops didn't say he's coming back, but 617 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: he said the longer you go. 618 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: Without it that he's likely coming back. Well, the other 619 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: reason I would say that is because I know that 620 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: the Browns began the succession planning for this with the 621 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: drafting of Zack Xinner, but he struggled as a rookie 622 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: coming off that broken leagu He really did. Now, there's 623 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: not nothing to say he can't make a big leap 624 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: here in year two with a new offensive line coach, 625 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: which I think the Browns think is going to be 626 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: a major upgrade at that position following the departure of 627 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: Bill Callahan two years ago. Now, but I think that 628 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: Joel understands the league enough that he would want to 629 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: if he were retiring, and he still may, but this 630 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: is just my would be my assessment of it. If 631 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: he were retiring, that he would want to give the 632 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: Browns the most ability to prepare for that as they 633 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: head to the Combine this week and then begin free 634 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: agent discussions. You know that will be free and she's 635 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: two weeks. Yeah, so I would think that they would 636 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: want to He would give them the benefit of saying, Okay, 637 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: you guys, actually the succession plan is going to It 638 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: has to happen, and it has to happen now. 639 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. 640 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm trying to be optimistic, but it feels that feels. 641 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and he could also see I mean like 642 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: he also might be curious, what are we what's going 643 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: on at quarterback? Like you know, I mean, that's a 644 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: big part of all of this is it is, well, 645 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: let's see what you're doing here, Like I can we 646 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: get somebody in here who gives you a little bit 647 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: of sense of hope in having some success next season. 648 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: That's I'm sure he wants to see that too. I'm 649 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: sure he doesn't want to sign up for another three 650 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: and fourteen no, so you know, and I think they 651 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: want to see the proof of the pudding on that. 652 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: I do think he understands that getting the right rookie 653 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: quarterback is the best thing obviously for this organization. You know, Yes, 654 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: you can have a nice one year band aid. By 655 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: the way, shout out real quick to Alex van Pelt, 656 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: who just is now with the Rams, well no longer 657 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: with the Patriots. He's now the Rams senior offensive assistant 658 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: following the coaching changes in New England that saw Josh 659 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: McDaniels returns the offensive coordina there. But he signs with 660 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: the Rams staff, so obviously he's for him quite good, yes, indeed, 661 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: But back we're saying, yeah, like this is it's a 662 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: delicate balance, right, does does Kirk Cousins make Miles or 663 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: Buttonio happier or does the opportunity to get somebody who 664 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: impacts a franchise like CJ. Stroud and Jaden Daniels. To me, 665 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: it would have to be the latter. Yeah, because it's 666 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: been proven that number one rookie quarterbacks can come in 667 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: and play well more quickly now than perhaps in years past. 668 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: Number one and number two. That's the only way that 669 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: this can be sustained. 670 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: Yes, that's it, which gets us to what we're going 671 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: into next. Daniel Yafusi from ESPN with five things that 672 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: can get the Browns back in the playoffs in twenty 673 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: twenty five. We'll see if his list matches ours. 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Five things that can get the Browns 683 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 2: back in the playoffs in twenty twenty five from ESPN's 684 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: Daniel oya FUSSI look one through five min as we'll 685 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: be quarterback play. Yes, I mean the rest of it. 686 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 3: Is, but it's good. I like, I like the list 687 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: that he's put together here. 688 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: But the one is this is the old second is eighth. 689 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like one through five or this, and then 690 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: you can go, you know, six through ten, one through 691 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: six or this and then sixth, seven through ten. 692 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: So he has stable quarterback play. One. Yeah, I don't 693 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: know that stable is good enough. I think it needs 694 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: to be a little bit more than that. In the AFC, 695 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: it needs to be excellent. You need a positive quarterback 696 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: play plus quarterback plays the top half. 697 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: Of the league at a minimum. 698 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you drinking there? One of those miss things? 699 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: Roar organic. Look at the complete hydration Georgia Peach vitamin 700 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: enhanced beverage only ten calories, twenty calories per bottle. It's 701 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: a big bottle and get some juice. It's very good 702 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: and it's good. Uh. Electrolytes vitamins, one percent of vitamin C, B, 703 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: five B six B twelve antioxidants. 704 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: Look at that. Yeah, and then I'm usually pretty well 705 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: versed on the special drinks. 706 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: This is a miss Ka special comes in this flavor, 707 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 3: this Georgia peach. And then we've had a mango clementine, 708 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: which is nice, although I do find sometimes that mango 709 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: flavoring has a little dirt to it. 710 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: Of course you have the same tape, YEA, I think 711 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: it's I don't think it's you want to give me flavorings. 712 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm not for a mango flavoring. 713 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: No, and I said it, or that, I'm like, why 714 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: isn't this is clementine. I'd be thrilled with just clementine. 715 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you need. Yeah, I don't need It's 716 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: all you need. 717 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 4: All right. 718 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: So he's got stable quarterback play. Let's upgrade that to 719 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: plus quarterback play. Would you have special teams resurgences too? 720 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: No? 721 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: I would not either. I can I understand why it's 722 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: on here. 723 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 3: That means, listen, if you're actually a good football team, 724 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: you need your special teams to be neutral. This to 725 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 3: me says that we're not a good football team. If 726 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 3: you think that a special team's resurgence is going to 727 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: do that much. Right now, You could make the case 728 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: that when we went to the playoffs it was in 729 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: large part because our special teams was good two years 730 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: ago and you had you know, de Hot performing very 731 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: very well. But last year you still had some one 732 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: of the best punting, you did not have great coverage units, 733 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: you still did block a kick that led to a touchdown. 734 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: You know, we've blocked kicks in each of the last 735 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: two years that have been led directly to scores. So 736 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: I just don't think that is that much of a 737 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 3: difference maker. The truth is, that's a big difference maker 738 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: if you're a team that's going to get bounced early 739 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeah right, Yeah, like we got there 740 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: because we're so good at special teams. Okay, well, that's 741 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: not taking us where we need to go. 742 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 2: In fact, I would have his number three as number two, 743 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: but I would just he has number three another productive 744 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 2: wide receiver. I would just say another weapon. 745 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: So I go sable quarterback play number two. Weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons. 746 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 2: More weapons, yep. 747 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 3: Number three for me would be j Oka gets the 748 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: green light to play football again. Yeah, yeah, which is 749 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 3: a it's the most non talked about massive story around 750 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 3: this team, and I'm I don't know I if that's 751 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: by design or there just really aren't updates or or 752 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: what it is. And I'm not saying talked about by us. 753 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 3: I'm just saying period, Like, we're talking about a guy 754 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 3: that was on his way to being I think a 755 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: first team All Pro again, or a first team All 756 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: Pro for the first time, but a Pro Bowler again 757 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 3: in one of the most dominant, game changing, playmaking off 758 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 3: ball linebackers in the National Football League. 759 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there, you know, it's I think it's one 760 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 2: of those things where there just isn't anything to say 761 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: about it and you won't know until you know, but 762 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 2: you're right, it is something that is was not talked 763 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: about a lot as the season went on, and then 764 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: since it's been over, you're just kind of waiting to 765 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: hear if there's the word. And then you know, that's 766 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: another that's a personal decision. J Okay is going to 767 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: have to make two bigley on that side of things. 768 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a that's a big one. There. He 769 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 2: has Martin Everson Junior returning to his twenty twenty three 770 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: form as number four on this list, and then a 771 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: healthy Dewan Jones to anchor left tackle is five. 772 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 3: So I would put after JK Dwan Jones at left tackle, 773 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: solidifying that spot. I would put that at four, and 774 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: then the MJ one. I'm gonna say MJ and single 775 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 3: him out. What I am going to say is that 776 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: the back end of the defense outside of Denzel Ward 777 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 3: needs to make more plays, you know, MJ. Two years 778 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 3: ago at four picks, Greg had two, including a pick six. 779 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: We really haven't gotten it from the free safety position 780 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 3: at all, but Hickman at least had a pick six 781 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: two years agod Anthony Bell had a couple of picks 782 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 3: two years ago. I think the thing to me that 783 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 3: is the most stunning, one of the most stunning things 784 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: about the twenty twenty four Cleveland Browns is the fact 785 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: that for a great part of the season, Jokay, even 786 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 3: while being injured, that Jokay was leading your team in interceptions. 787 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah for a while. I'm pretty sure. I'm gonna pull 788 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 3: it up right now, but I'm pretty sure. As a team, Yeah, 789 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 3: the Browns picked off four passes as a team last year, 790 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: two by Denzel, one by jok one by Greg Newsom. 791 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: This defense needs to be more effective on the back end, 792 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: So not a single interception from the safeties. You did 793 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 3: have some force fumbles from other guys in the secondary 794 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: that you know lead to turnovers. Denzel had one, mj 795 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: Emerson had one, and some fumble recovery sing of that. 796 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 3: But I'm talking about play making. We had four interceptions 797 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 3: as a team last season, and when you think about 798 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 3: the fact that we threw nineteen, that's that's not good enough. Now, 799 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, we had stop thrown picks, by 800 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: the way, twenty twenty three we threw twenty three interceptions. 801 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 3: But as a defense, at least we did a better 802 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 3: job there. As a defense, we had six, eight, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. 803 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 3: We had eighteen picks in twenty twenty three. We had 804 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: four in twenty twenty four. From more than one a 805 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: game to one less than every four games, less than 806 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 3: one every four games. 807 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's great. I didn't realize it was that. 808 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: I didn't realize if fell off a cliff like that, 809 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: I knew they were off a cliff, not like that. 810 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 3: So we went from being even leading the league in 811 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 3: picks with twenty three. The year before we were only 812 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 3: like negative net five on interceptions, whereas this year we 813 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: were negative net fifteen. We average basically throwing an interception 814 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: without getting one back, and by the way, could have 815 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 3: been a lot worse. 816 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 4: Could have been a lot worse. 817 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 3: There's drop picks out there, but basically every game we 818 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 3: started off knowing we're gonna throw a pick and we're 819 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: not gonna get one back. 820 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: Yep. Tough way to win. Of the things, you know, 821 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: if sin we're having that got into this Joka conversation 822 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: we touched on and then the Joel Buttonio conversation from earlier. 823 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 2: Do you think, as we sit on February twenty fourth, 824 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: Kevin and ab know the status of those two inquiries. 825 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any way to be definitive 826 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: on the Jokay one. But that's what I was talking 827 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: about earlier. I do think that they have an idea of, Yes, 828 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: what what decision Joeltonio is gonna make? Yes, I do 829 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 3: think so, and I think they should. I mean, I think, look, 830 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: he may truly be unsure, yeah, but I do believe 831 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: that he doesn't know nobody owes anybody anything in this 832 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: it's such a tough business at times. But I do 833 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 3: think Joel understanding, you know, and wanting the best for 834 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 3: this organization would be giving them you know, Hey, this 835 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 3: is what I'm I haven't made a final decision, but 836 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: this is what I'm thinking of doing. I mean that 837 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 3: seems very reasonable to me. 838 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, this is the combine 839 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: and then it's free agency. 840 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 841 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: You got to know kind of what your your needs 842 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: are and what holes you need to fill before all 843 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 2: of this gets going. So hopefully those conversations are are 844 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: known for our guys before we head off on Combine 845 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: Week this week. One of the folks who's going to 846 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: be central in the decisions being made over the course 847 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: of this next off season is our assistant general manager 848 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: and VP of player Personnel. He is Glenn Cook. He 849 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: will go one on one with Andrew Siciliano coming up next. 850 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Runs Daily on e ESP and Cleveland. 851 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official sports 852 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP 853 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. 854 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 2: Add more fun to your fanom with the bally Beat 855 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: sports Book app. Downloads today and get fifty bucks at 856 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: bonus bets you place your first bet of ten or 857 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: more bally Bet, official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 858 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 2: Browns and now Brown's Assistant GM Vice President of Player 859 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 2: Personnel Glenn Cook, one on one with the play by 860 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 2: play voice of your Cleveland Browns, Andrew Siciliano. 861 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 5: All right, so this is cool. We had Andrew Barry, 862 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 5: we had Bubba van Trone. We now have the Browns 863 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 5: Assistant GM, the VP of Player Personnel, Glenn Cook. 864 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 4: How's mobile. 865 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 6: It's I mean, as you can see, it's it's sunny. 866 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 4: You know. 867 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 6: I wish, I wish our fans in Cleveland could be 868 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 6: down here and join us a little bit. Given given 869 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 6: out cold, it might be up there. So it's good 870 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 6: to be here. 871 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 5: They had eight inches of snow here last week. 872 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but we got we got the good 873 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 6: side of the weather man. You know, it's six c 874 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 6: degree weather today, so it's been good. 875 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: It's a chamber of commerce day. 876 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 5: As Jim Naggy, the director of the RecA Seier Bowl 877 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 5: likes to say, who's down here on the field. You 878 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 5: were sitting with the Browns Brain Trust Scouting Trust kind 879 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 5: of right near the fifty yard. 880 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,959 Speaker 4: Line with a great view. 881 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 5: How do you watch a Senior Bowl practice Because you've 882 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 5: seen most of these guys and take you've seen a 883 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: lot of them in person as well during the season. 884 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean this is it gives us another opportunity 885 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 6: and other exposure to some of the top you know 886 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 6: for this group sa year. You know football players in 887 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 6: college this year, and so we get a chance to 888 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 6: see how they compete. Man, it's all about ever when 889 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 6: I add do is and infuse the team with toughness, competitiveness, 890 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 6: guys who love ball. So look, they did it for 891 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 6: three four years in college. So you know you take 892 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 6: this with you knows its own taking in its own lens. 893 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 6: But it is good to see them come down against 894 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 6: some of the other top college football players and put 895 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,959 Speaker 6: in work for a couple of days. So it's been fun. 896 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 6: It's been fun to see them get after some guys 897 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 6: are making plays. You're here the ouz and ah. So 898 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 6: that's been good. 899 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 5: I think the point that Bronze fans need to get 900 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 5: through their head is the number two overall pick may 901 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 5: not be here, but you had a dozen picks right, 902 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 5: the thirty third pick could be there. There's so much 903 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 5: talent on this field. One hundred and ten players were 904 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 5: taken out of the Senior Bowl last year. And whether 905 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 5: it's jern Ford or whether it's Jawan Jones, whether it's 906 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 5: Jamari Thrash or Mike Hall, you build your roster at 907 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 5: a game like this with any of those guys in 908 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 5: the past. Was there a moment at the Senior Bowl 909 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 5: where like, all right, this verifies what we scouted during 910 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 5: the year. 911 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 4: Check. 912 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 6: I think one of the things you do want to 913 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 6: see is guys make plays, you know. I think if 914 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 6: you were to ask me, what's a consistent thing across 915 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 6: some of the guys who perform well at the Senior 916 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 6: Bowl and guys who go into the NFL and do well, 917 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 6: they show up here and they make plays, you know, 918 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 6: And like I said, you're going up against some of 919 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 6: the best of the best, and so if you can 920 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 6: do it on this platform, that's a good sign and 921 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 6: maybe a signal that you're going to be pretty solid NFL. 922 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 6: So Williams, I think we you know, specifically maybe using 923 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 6: one as an example, although he practiced one day, I mean, 924 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 6: the talent stood out and his ability to pass block 925 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 6: the one on one the competitiveness like that that stood out. 926 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: So we're just looking for that. 927 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 6: We're trying to take as many nuggets, you know, morsels 928 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 6: from from these few days, not only on the field honestly, 929 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 6: but getting a chance to hear these guys share their stories, 930 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 6: you know, talk a little bit about their family and 931 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 6: their upbringing and kind of what got them to this 932 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 6: moment and piece it all together to again add not 933 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 6: only really talented players, but guys who fit the culture. 934 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 5: I think to Wan is a perfect example. On Tuesday 935 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 5: two years ago. He stood right there and he blocked 936 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 5: out the sun. I mean, he destroyed everybody on his 937 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 5: one on one drills and then he was like yeah, 938 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 5: I'm good, Yeah, and just kind of watch. But he 939 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 5: made his improvement or he made his mark rather it. 940 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 5: I think it's also fascinating like a guy like Mike 941 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 5: greenon for Marshall today knocked the tackle on his rear. 942 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not about that. 943 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 5: It's about how that offensive lineman then backs it up 944 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 5: on the net or comes back on the next rep. 945 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 4: It comes back on the next rep, right percent. 946 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 6: I mean, speaking of the one I wants today like 947 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 6: those is we're getting after it, and look we don't 948 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 6: look at it so microscopically where it's like, oh, you 949 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 6: lost the one rep, you can't play, But is that right? 950 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 6: Like did he get up, you know, did he take 951 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 6: the coaching? Did he understand where he went wrong? And 952 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 6: then that next rep? 953 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: What did he do? 954 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 4: You know? 955 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 6: Like Connley got up in the instance on the next 956 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 6: time and did a good job. So it's really just 957 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 6: about getting the full evaluation. This is the next phase, 958 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 6: right like we had the whole season. Our scouts did 959 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 6: a great job to kind of set us up for 960 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 6: this situation that we're in right now. 961 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 4: And I was talking about Josh Connelly, the Oregon tackle. 962 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 5: He's a dude, right, He's a dude in the conversation 963 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 5: on day one or day two, and Mike Green is 964 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 5: as well. From Marshall, let's talk about it if we 965 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 5: could the quarterbacks from thirty five thousand feet. Jim Naggy 966 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 5: made some waves the head of the Senior Bowl on 967 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 5: Monday when he said, and none of these guys, not 968 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 5: just the guys in this game, but none of these 969 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 5: guys in this class would maybe be in the top 970 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,919 Speaker 5: six last year. The quarterbacks you're seeing here today, whether 971 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 5: it's Jalen Milroll or Dylan Gabriel who was whipping the 972 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 5: ball yesterday, or Jackson Dart. What do you think of 973 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 5: this group here in MOBI? 974 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 6: Like I said, you know, these guys have played three 975 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 6: or four years in college, you know, have led their 976 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 6: teams to a lot of success. Like there's something to 977 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 6: be said about that. So this is another step in 978 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 6: trying to understand both who they are on the field, 979 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 6: you know, the the level of talent they may or 980 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 6: may not have, and then just also getting to dig 981 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 6: into who the person is. Right, So you just want 982 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 6: to piece it all together again. You don't want to 983 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 6: take too much from just one piece of information. So 984 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 6: it's been good to just get the exposure, right. We 985 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 6: got to go back, We got to do the work. 986 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 6: We got to make sure we really dive in, and 987 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 6: we got two months to figure out and understand what 988 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 6: eleven guys, at least at this moment, that's what we got. 989 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 6: Eleven picks. What eleven guys are gonna make our team? 990 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 4: What we want to do. 991 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 5: You were in Dallas to the east west, Yeah, Shrineble 992 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 5: you think of that quarter got back? 993 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 6: It was good man, So the names there, it was good, 994 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 6: you know, like there's a lot of excitement around you know, 995 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 6: one individual. But it was good to see, you know, 996 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 6: all those guys compete and make plays out there, you know, 997 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 6: like I think, you know, a lot can be made 998 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 6: of just the Senior Bowl, but the East West, Like 999 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 6: there's there's always talent to be found across the board. 1000 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 6: For us, again, it's just focusing on, you know, what's 1001 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 6: important to us, you know, making sure we identify and 1002 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,919 Speaker 6: target the right people and the right guys and enjoy. 1003 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: So I thought it was good. 1004 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 6: You know, we went down for three days and then 1005 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 6: came right over on Monday, so we can get a 1006 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 6: chance to sit down with the guys on Monday night. 1007 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 4: So it was good. 1008 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 5: I am wearing a Syracuse sat because the sun is 1009 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 5: beating dad. I got sunburned yesterday. So big fan of 1010 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 5: the Syracuse running back with Clint Allen made a nice 1011 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 5: catch down there on the ceiling line he did at 1012 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 5: the near the end of practice. So I'm just going 1013 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 5: to assume you're big cam Work and well to see 1014 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 5: that you're Miami guy. Did you enjoy watching cam Ward 1015 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 5: and your canes this year? 1016 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 6: I did, okay, you know, it was fun, like the 1017 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 6: kids is a super competitor. He showed up in big moments 1018 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,479 Speaker 6: for us. He let our team so a lot of wins. 1019 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 6: So just speaking as hell, I love it, you know, 1020 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 6: and I love it, and we want to continue that 1021 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 6: type of success at the school. So for him to 1022 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 6: go there, I mean, do what he did in one 1023 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 6: year like that was great to see, you know, like 1024 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 6: that was really awesome to see it. I continue, I 1025 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 6: wanted to continue to have success. That's he's a part 1026 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 6: of the family. 1027 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 5: Now I will say this as well, just tie it 1028 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 5: into the whole concept of competition here. He could have 1029 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 5: gone to the draft last yeary he chose after hearing 1030 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 5: what his NFL draft right might be, to go to Miami. 1031 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 5: Lifted up that program as well, and certainly did himself 1032 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 5: a solid made himself some money. So you have to 1033 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 5: like an ascending player right that said I'm going to 1034 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 5: bet on myself. 1035 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 4: I mean you see that across the season. 1036 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 6: Sometimes guys realize, hey, I didn't put what I wanted 1037 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 6: to put on film, and they define that as whatever 1038 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 6: they wanted to be. And so you know, it's it's 1039 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 6: pretty easy or easier sometimes to say, oh, I'm just 1040 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 6: going to go to the league I can develop better 1041 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 6: in the NFL. But when a guy says, hey, I'm 1042 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 6: going to take take a chance on myself, I feel 1043 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 6: like I'm better. I feel like I can do better. 1044 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 6: And they stay in college, which which is an individual choice, 1045 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 6: and perform. You know, I'm happy for them and in 1046 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 6: any of those instances. So whether that's him or some 1047 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 6: of the other guys who did the same thing at 1048 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 6: other other schools across the country. 1049 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 4: It's it's it's cool. 1050 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 5: It's cool if I could drop something of the suggestion 1051 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 5: box now as we as we wrap this up, because 1052 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,479 Speaker 5: I'm worried. The Syracuse had cal mc court's nice just saying, 1053 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 5: you know, he spun the ball this year Land appreciate it, 1054 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 5: not appreciately Mobile and uh, it's gonna be a fun 1055 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 5: couple of months show up. 1056 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,439 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Good stuff from Andrew and 1057 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: Glenn in that conversation. A lot of big decisions going 1058 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,959 Speaker 2: to be made here in the next couple of months. 1059 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 2: Second hour of the program coming up Nextshells to Cleveland 1060 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 2: Browns Daily is presented by bally Bett, official sports betting 1061 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: partner Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESPN. 1062 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official 1063 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty 1064 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: ESP and Cleveland. 1065 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: Morgan Wallen is bringing his I'm the Problem Tour to 1066 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 2: Huntington bank Field on August fifteenth and sixteenth. 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The co chairman of 1074 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 2: the NFL's Competition Committee, Rich McKay admitted on Sunday that 1075 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 2: the new kickoff rule will likely undergo a few tweaks 1076 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: this offseason. Most likely would see the touchback move from 1077 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 2: the thirty yard line to the thirty five, which would 1078 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 2: discourage the kicking team from simply booting the ball out 1079 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: of the end zone on a kickoff. McKay also said 1080 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 2: that the NFL could consider moving the football five yards 1081 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: back for the actual kickoff, which you mean kickers we 1082 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 2: setting the ball up at their own thirty instead of 1083 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: the thirty five yard line. Is this is this all necessary? 1084 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 3: Necessary? 1085 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: No? 1086 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 3: If their goal is to try and create more kicker 1087 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 3: then I don't know if necessary is the white word, 1088 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,919 Speaker 3: but that's what that's what they're doing. So it's event 1089 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 3: what are you going to get a touch back? And 1090 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 3: you get at the fifty? I mean, where's it going 1091 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 3: to stop? Thirty five is significant? 1092 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: Just hand the ball to the to the returner and 1093 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: just started at the whistle. Forget the kick. Just give 1094 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 2: it to the returner at the five and then be 1095 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 2: like three two one lift off and then go right 1096 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 2: and then then you'll get something. Yeah, it feels like 1097 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of effort to kind of 1098 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 2: reverse engineer a play that I think we can. You 1099 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 2: and I talked about this last year when they were 1100 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 2: first going to change it, and you know, one of 1101 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 2: the things we said was there are a few things 1102 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 2: in the NFL that is electrifying for a stadium. As 1103 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 2: a kick return touchdown, you just rarely see them. Kick 1104 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 2: and putt return touchdowns are so rare, and when they 1105 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 2: see them, you take the roof off the place. So 1106 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: I understand why they want some of that back. I guess, 1107 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 2: I guess to any means necessary to make sure you 1108 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 2: do it. It's kind of the thinking must be of 1109 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 2: the competition committee. 1110 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 3: I like it in the sense that I like the 1111 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 3: so I think that you know, teams are gonna think 1112 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 3: about it. I think, but that's gone from the twenty 1113 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 3: to the thirty five. Yeah, that's like you started the twenty, 1114 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 3: hit a nice slant, you pick up fifteen, your drives 1115 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 3: off to a great start. Now you're at the thirty 1116 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 3: five and you're thinking, oh baby, Yeah. I mean, I'm 1117 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 3: not a math major, but with the way kickers are now, 1118 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 3: it used to be if you got thirty yards on 1119 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 3: a drive, you were at the fifty. You're not in 1120 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 3: scoring range. You start the thirty five, you pick up 1121 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 3: fifty yards and get to the other team's thirty five. 1122 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 3: You're kicking a field goal. 1123 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's you know, if you. 1124 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 3: Could get good at it and covering it, it's a 1125 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 3: big weapon. 1126 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 2: Do you were you surprised at how little the new 1127 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 2: rules did to change this sport. I thought we'd see 1128 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 2: more innovation out of it, but maybe there just wasn't 1129 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 2: anything to innovate. 1130 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 3: Maybe not, but we did see a few kick returns 1131 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 3: taking the house. Yeah, so you know that's good. It 1132 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 3: had almost been kind of out of the game completely, 1133 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 3: so it was better. And I think this is they're 1134 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 3: trying to there's a more more more. So Yeah, I 1135 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,280 Speaker 3: think that's okay. 1136 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. A couple other things around the league. The Jaguars 1137 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 2: have hired James Gladstone as their new general manager. He's 1138 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: a former director of scouting and strategy of the Los 1139 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 2: Angeles Rams. Man they want William Cohen Badman. 1140 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 3: Young and this guy is a given credit as being 1141 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 3: very good and influential on those Rams drafts that have 1142 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 3: been very good. Yeah, it's the young staff there, I mean, 1143 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 3: the operations young and everybody who's in a critical position 1144 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 3: is in their first year ever being in that position. 1145 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's turning over the keys, buddy, Yeah, in a 1146 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 2: big way. The Saints have hired Gibbey's best buddy, Brandon Staley. 1147 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 2: He is their new defensive coordinator for Kellen Moore with 1148 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 2: the Saints former Chargers head coach. Wasn't he on Kyle's 1149 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 2: staff last year in some capacity? 1150 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 3: I think so after he was tired. 1151 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 2: I like an advisor in San francisc I. 1152 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 3: Think you have that right now. The thing that's interesting 1153 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 3: is that Kellen Moore was on his staff, that he 1154 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 3: is on Kellen Moore's staff. 1155 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right. This one from about our 1156 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 2: guy DeShawn, Doctor Robert Answer the foot and ankle surgery 1157 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: performed both of Deshaun Watson's achilles surgery. As it said, 1158 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: he will step away from performing surgeries in orthopedic foot 1159 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 2: and ankle practice. I have no context on this is 1160 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: just straight. 1161 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 3: So I read the rundown prior to this show, and 1162 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 3: I came across said I'm like, okay, is that I 1163 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 3: don't even know what I don't even know what to 1164 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 3: make of that. Honestly, you had no idea what to 1165 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 3: make of that. 1166 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 2: Best leave it just there where it is. 1167 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 3: It's not I have I don't have a comment on it. 1168 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 3: I think it just seems odd. Is that fair? It 1169 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 3: seems quite odd? 1170 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean I think I'm seeing he's part of, 1171 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 7: of course, the UAH group being great partners with the 1172 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns, and so just as like a thing here 1173 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 7: in Cleveland, that's he's done it for the best of 1174 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 7: athletes and even everybody else, and he's stepping away from 1175 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 7: that side of the business. 1176 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 4: I think is how to take. 1177 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: But it doesn't have it the way it's written, though, 1178 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 2: it makes it seem like it's in regard to right am. 1179 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 2: I Yeah, you read it, tu Z. 1180 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 3: Yes, that it had to do with the fact, to 1181 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 3: do with Deshaun Sean. Yeah, he did the second one too. 1182 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the best answer I could I could 1183 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: try to give you. 1184 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 3: Good. 1185 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 2: I got you, buddy, all right, I'm trying. Yeah. Eagles 1186 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: linebacker Nolan Smith tore his tricep in the Super Bowl, 1187 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 2: played through in the second half. He has had surgery 1188 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 2: to repair it as expected to be ready for the 1189 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. So there you go around the 1190 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 2: sports world on a Monday. All right. Coming up next, 1191 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: we'll play a little thing or not a thing. 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We're going 1207 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 2: to do it now on the NFC side of things. 1208 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 3: All right, Zee, you ready for this, absolutely, let's do it. 1209 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 2: The Washington Commanders should trade for Cooper Cup. Thing or 1210 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 2: not a thing. 1211 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, get a nice slot receiver there, compliment you know, 1212 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 3: some of the speed on the outside. And obviously Terry 1213 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 3: McLaurin and Cooper Cup's the kind of receiver that is 1214 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 3: the best friend of a quarterback. Now I think he's 1215 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 3: lost a step. It would certainly appear as though he 1216 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,439 Speaker 3: has lost a step, you know, over the years. But yeah, 1217 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 3: if I were them, that would certainly be something that 1218 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 3: I would be interested in in trying to do and 1219 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 3: bring in for my young quarterback Jade and Daniels. 1220 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 2: It's really critical. It is a thing, it's and it's 1221 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: a it's a thing that you hit the lottery. When 1222 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 2: you land Jade and Daniels, you hit it twice. Really, 1223 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 2: you hit it once, and that you have a franchise 1224 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 2: quarterback who will be your franchise quarterback as long as 1225 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 2: you want him to be and is quite that's it, 1226 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 2: full stop, as long as you want him to be. 1227 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 2: These guys don't leave. Nope, they don't leave unless you do. 1228 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Unless you want them to leave. They don't leave of 1229 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: their own accord. You draft guy number one overall, you 1230 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: keep a guy number one overall or number two overcall 1231 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 2: in the case of Jane Daniels. The other second lottery 1232 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: win you have is you have the fact that he 1233 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 2: is now under York. You have a franchise quarterback that 1234 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 2: you have under contract at a low rate. So now 1235 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 2: you need to load up and go for it now 1236 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 2: as big as possible and try to steal a shot 1237 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 2: at a title here in the next three or four years. 1238 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 2: So it's two lottery wins when you land this quarterback. 1239 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 3: Totally because it's a game changer, that's what that's exactly 1240 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 3: what it does for you is that you take that 1241 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 3: away from the crisis list and then it also allows you, 1242 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 3: on a salary controlled situation for the next four seasons 1243 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 3: to try to assemble the best possible roster around him. 1244 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 3: And they've got an ownership group that absolutely will spend 1245 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 3: and so yeah, they're going to be a force for 1246 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 3: a while. 1247 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they will take full advantage of it. All right, 1248 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 2: next one, this one in regard to the Lions, The 1249 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Lions should try for Miles Garrett thing or not a thing. 1250 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're doing DLD, of course it's a thing. 1251 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 3: But we're not doing DLD. We're doing cloan rounds daily. 1252 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 3: I have no interest in trading Miles Garrett at all. 1253 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 3: I think that it's going to end up with Miles 1254 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 3: hopefully getting a new contract and being here for the 1255 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 3: rest of his career as this team addresses the quarterback position, 1256 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 3: like we all want them to win this draft with 1257 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 3: the asset at the number two overall pick. So if 1258 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm a Lion, of course I do. But you know 1259 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 3: that's a team that with their defense as it was constructed, 1260 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 3: and zid Aias played very well for them, and I 1261 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: think he's still got plenty left in the tank. I mean, 1262 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 3: I think it just is probably cheaper for them to 1263 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 3: do that than to, you know, make the trade, give 1264 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 3: up the assets and bring in Miles and pay Miles, 1265 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 3: you know, because in a couple of years you're gonna 1266 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 3: be paying aid In Hutchinson as well. So in that case, 1267 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 3: our looking at Aiden being on a rookie deal as okay, 1268 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 3: that's kind of like having the quarterback on a rookie 1269 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 3: deal where we have somebody that is significantly below their 1270 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 3: market value, but that's not gonna last forever. And so 1271 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 3: the only way that I would see them doing it 1272 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 3: is if they made a trade four Miles and then 1273 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 3: probably I don't know, didn't necessarily extend him because you 1274 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: look at Aiden Hutchinson. Aidan Hutchinson's gonna be an eleven 1275 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 3: million this year coming off of the injury. Then they're 1276 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 3: gonna fifty year option him right into twenty six. But 1277 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,439 Speaker 3: then he's gonna have to get paid, Yeah he is. Yeah, 1278 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, let's see, I don't. 1279 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 2: Think they're We're not trading him anyway. But even if 1280 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: we were, I think the Lions are in such a 1281 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 2: tight spot or about to be in such a tight 1282 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 2: spot salary cap wise, and with all the people they 1283 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 2: have to pay that it doesn't make sense for it 1284 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: to be there. 1285 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 3: So they're currently The Lions are currently fifty one million 1286 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 3: under the cap forty nine million of effective cap space, 1287 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 3: which puts them one too. Here are the top salary 1288 01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 3: cap space teams Patriots, Raiders, Commanders, Bears, Cardinals, Chargers, Vikings, Bengals, Steelers, Lions. 1289 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 2: So they clear in the top half of the league 1290 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 2: with space. 1291 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 3: The bottom of the league is the Saints are forty 1292 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 3: seven million under, the Browns are twenty four million under, 1293 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 3: Bill's ten million under, Seahawks six million, Falcons five million, 1294 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 3: and then the Dolphins, Cowboys, Texans and Chiefs have and 1295 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Buccaneers have very little, and Ravens really have very little money. 1296 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 3: Everybody else has at least twenty two million under the cap. 1297 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 3: But you're talking about a Patriots team and a Raiders team, 1298 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 3: and a Commander's to me the Commanders and Chargers of 1299 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 3: the two teams. The Chargers, oh justin Herbert spending some money, 1300 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 3: and the Vikings have sixty three million, So it really 1301 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 3: isn't that out of the realm of possibility for them 1302 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 3: to make a move and you know, say they wanted 1303 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,959 Speaker 3: to keep Darnold, go that route at quarterback and maybe 1304 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 3: make a move and they be able to get some 1305 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 3: pieces around him. Bengals are sixty two million under the cap, 1306 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 3: It says as well. I mean, they've it would be 1307 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 3: wild to not keep their guys. The question is just 1308 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 3: their cash, you know, that's right? Yah? 1309 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 2: Do they have the cash flow? Speaking of the Vikings, 1310 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 2: they should trade or should rather sign Sam Darnold and 1311 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 2: trade JJ McCarthy for picks, thing or not a thing? 1312 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 3: I say sure because it brings one more young quarterback 1313 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 3: that you know, potentially could be the solution to the 1314 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, you know, into the mix. So that is 1315 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 3: exciting to me that I'm I'm here for that. 1316 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 2: Would that make you don't know, how if the Vikings 1317 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 2: loved McCarthy, Yeah, would they be the spot for Stafford? 1318 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1319 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 2: And then Stafford plays there for two years? I mean'd 1320 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 2: be in the same division as Detroit. Well, I'm sure 1321 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 2: he's not crazy about but like he would be crazy 1322 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 2: about playing in a dome. He would be crazy about 1323 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: probably the familiarity of the division and throwing to Justin 1324 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Jefferson and Jordan Addison. That's a win. So, like, is 1325 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 2: that a situation where the Vikings and the Rams could 1326 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: kind of have their cake and eat it too, where 1327 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 2: Donald ends up going I don't even know if you 1328 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 2: can do sign and trade in the NFL, but like 1329 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Donald ends up going to the Rams, and then JJ 1330 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: sits for another year to get completely healthy year or two, 1331 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 2: and then you go Stafford for like two years. 1332 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another world in which you know, you could 1333 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 3: see Stafford goes there, they trade JJ or maybe they 1334 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 3: sit JJ. To your point, Donald, who knows where he goes? 1335 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 3: And then Rogers goes to the Rams. I mean Alexan 1336 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 3: Pelt pretty tight end with Aaron Rodgers who just signed 1337 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 3: with the Rams. 1338 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I didn't connect that, don I mean 1339 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: that just happened today with Van Pelt, right, So that's. 1340 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 3: That happened today. And then the Giants, Uh, I think 1341 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 3: he's the assistant quarterbacks coach. Let me see a hello 1342 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 3: one second, he is the assistant quarterback coach guy named 1343 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 3: Chad Hall with the Giants. Who is Matthew Stafford's brother 1344 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:55,959 Speaker 3: in law. 1345 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. That was the connection with the with 1346 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 2: Stafford and the Giants. That's right, the brother in law 1347 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 2: part of it, all right. Next one, this one from 1348 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 2: the Falcons. Trade tight end Kyle Pitts, thing or not 1349 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 2: a thing? Why would you do this? 1350 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 3: Just throw to him, just give him the ball. And 1351 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 3: by the way, if you want to trade him, trade 1352 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 3: him here. I feel like you could probably get him 1353 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 3: for not much. That feels, by the way, like somebody 1354 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 3: that the Browns would look at. You think about the pedigree, 1355 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 3: the athleticism. I feel like we'd have to be able 1356 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 3: to use him and all of a sudden, if you're running, 1357 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 3: you know, you talk about weapons. Two tight ends, right, 1358 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 3: like m twelve personnel, good running back hopefully Chubbs back Ford, 1359 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 3: by the way, had a high home run rate. It's 1360 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 3: a great running back draft. So you could have a 1361 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 3: loaded running back room and you have twelve personnel out there, 1362 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, Tillman, Kyle Pitts, Nadjoku and Jerry Judy. I 1363 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 3: mean that seems pretty darn good to me. I don't know. 1364 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 3: I would be that is something that I would be. 1365 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 3: I would be all all for that. Let me see 1366 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 3: about Kyle Pitts and what he's working with here on 1367 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 3: his deal. 1368 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts for the uninitiated, and forget this for him 1369 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 2: coming out of Florida. He's six six six. 1370 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 3: Six two forty and runs like a receiver. 1371 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand why he has why they don't 1372 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 2: throw to him, and it has not gone better for 1373 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 2: him because it seems like he's a dude just waiting 1374 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 2: to erupt. 1375 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 3: Well, the crazy thing is some of the games when 1376 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 3: they actually do target him, he goes bonkers. And then 1377 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,759 Speaker 3: he'll go games where they don't throw in the ball 1378 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 3: at all. Now, it did feel like towards the end 1379 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 3: of the season that Pennix started getting him the ball. 1380 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 3: But you know, this is a guy is rookie year 1381 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 3: he had one thy twenty six yards average fifteen yards 1382 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 3: of catch. He's had over six hundred yards each the 1383 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 3: last two seasons. He's never been below twelve yards of 1384 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 3: twelve point six yards of catch everge thirteen point five 1385 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 3: for his career. Sign me up. He's not much of 1386 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he's much of a blocker. I don't 1387 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 3: know if I'm sure he could be, but I would 1388 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 3: absolutely love that I would love Kyle Pitts coming to 1389 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 3: the Browns. And by the way, you'd get him for 1390 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 3: you probably trade for him and then signed to a 1391 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 3: new deal. So he's on the fifth year option which 1392 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 3: is ten point eight million, so he is not cost 1393 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 3: prohibitive in any way, shape or form. That is something 1394 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 3: I would love to see. Yeah, in I'm a skill 1395 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 3: believer and you're talking about you know somebody who is 1396 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 3: I mean, couldn't be more highly regarded freak athlete. I 1397 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 3: think you would be such a weapon. You have two 1398 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,840 Speaker 3: tight ends. You play him as a big slot. You 1399 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 3: got to I mean, our ability to create mismatches I 1400 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 3: think would be epic. 1401 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, Kevin have a lot of fun with him. 1402 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 3: I think you would too. I wonder if that's anything 1403 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 3: that was even even in the mix. Boy, would I 1404 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 3: like it? I can tell you that much. 1405 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Next one, the Saints don't restructure quarterback Derek Carr's contract. 1406 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just let him roll, like, let him leave 1407 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 3: or let him He's. 1408 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 2: Still under contract though, right for like a couple more years. 1409 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 2: I think I think we looked into this and I 1410 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 2: think that the contract. 1411 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 3: A right Derek Carr. 1412 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 2: There's a lot of news about him in the last day. 1413 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 3: I see now, so twenty twenty five this year, he's 1414 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 3: got a fifty one million dollars cap number on a 1415 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 3: post June first cut would save them thirty million against 1416 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 3: the cap this year, fifty million against the cap next year, 1417 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 3: with a twenty one million dollar dead cap this year, eleven, 1418 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 3: eleven and five the next three years on those void deals. 1419 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 3: So I mean they could cut him and feasibly save money. 1420 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 3: And there they have real cap problems. That's a pretty 1421 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 3: easy way to a post June first designation. Cut him. 1422 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 3: There's no way they're paying him, no way, There's no 1423 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 3: way they're paying him the full fifty one million, absolutely, no. 1424 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 2: Way, no no, and they're I mean, they would be 1425 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 2: a landing spot for Russell Wilson, for it could be 1426 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunity there. That could be Stafford, Darnold Rogers, yep, 1427 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 2: all Danny Dimes, all of them could be in the 1428 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 2: mix there. 1429 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 1430 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 2: This one on the Bucks, they should cut Rashad White. 1431 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 3: The Bucks should cut Rashad Whites and then so they 1432 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 3: would be turning it over to Bucky Irving, who was 1433 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 3: very very good. What did I just let me just 1434 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 3: see what they what the benefit of doing that is, 1435 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 3: try to pull up his cap real quick. 1436 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Rashad White, Yeah, he's twenty six. 1437 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 3: So he's an unrestricted free agent. Next year, they cut 1438 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 3: him and saves him three million dollars against the cap. 1439 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,640 Speaker 3: I'd mentioned earlier that they, you know he's in the 1440 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 3: last year it was rookie deal. I don't know for 1441 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 3: three point five million dollars. I don't see what the 1442 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 3: what the problem is there with Rashad White. He's been 1443 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 3: productive for them last year six hundred and thirteen yards, 1444 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 3: three touchdo downs, four point three yards of carry, cup 1445 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 3: fifty one for three ninety three and six touchdowns, so 1446 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 3: one thousand total yards, nine total touchdowns. Last two years 1447 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,519 Speaker 3: fifteen and thirty nine total yards, nine touchdowns. Last year 1448 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 3: one thousand total yards, nine touchdowns. Now I understand that 1449 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 3: they've got some other good running backs. Bucky Irving was 1450 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 3: actually their leading runner eleven hundred and twenty two yards, 1451 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 3: eight touchdowns, five point four yards of carry, forty seven 1452 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 3: catches three ninety two So Bucky Irving was great. They 1453 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,679 Speaker 3: have another guy that I liked too, like oh Sean 1454 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 3: Tucker averaged six yards of carry fifty carries through in 1455 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 3: eight yards, So they're in a position where they could. 1456 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,719 Speaker 3: But I mean cutting him for three million, I feel 1457 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 3: like there's a team out there in the league that 1458 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,720 Speaker 3: would take on They would you could probably trade him, 1459 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 3: trade seven round pick and should get Rashad White for 1460 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 3: on a three million dollar contract. Like why if I 1461 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 3: were them, I would want to get an asset more 1462 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 3: than three million dollars of space. 1463 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 2: No doubt, No doubt you would. 1464 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're in a good place because they are 1465 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,719 Speaker 3: Irving and they've done a very good job. So Irving 1466 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,719 Speaker 3: was a fourth round pick that they took last year. 1467 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 3: Sean Tucker was I think an undrafted free agent last 1468 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 3: year who was or in twenty twenty three, I'm sorry, 1469 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 3: was an undrafted free agent. So you got two guys 1470 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 3: all your running backs aro on rookie deal's. I don't 1471 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 3: see the reason why. Just covers you in the event 1472 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 3: of an injury. He was a third round pick in 1473 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two last year, was a rookie deal. I 1474 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,879 Speaker 3: don't see the necessarily the need or the great upside 1475 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 3: in doing it. 1476 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 2: No, no, not compared to some of the other stuff 1477 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 2: on this list. And this one final one from the 1478 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 2: Rams and We talked about this a little bit. Trade 1479 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, bring in quarterback Sam Darnold. I would just 1480 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 2: find a way to keep Stafford to me long his 1481 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,679 Speaker 2: love Stafford feels like they were close. They played Philly 1482 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 2: as close as anybody. I wouldn't trade him. I would 1483 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,600 Speaker 2: find a way to Kumbayan and get him some compensation 1484 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 2: close to what he wants and find a happy medium 1485 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 2: there more than anything else. With you, totally yeah, I 1486 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 2: don't see the idea of how that's a win for them. 1487 01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 4: All right. 1488 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 2: We will hit another mock draft after this one from 1489 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Tyler Sullivan of CBS Sports. In advance of heading over 1490 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 2: to Indie for the NFL Scouting Combine, you'll listen to 1491 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily. It's presented by bally Bet, official sports 1492 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 2: betting partner, Cleveland Browns on a fifty ESPN. 1493 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by bally Bett, an official 1494 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty 1495 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland. 1496 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 2: All Right, we've got NFL Scouting Combine coming up. We 1497 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 2: will be there tomorrow over in Indianapolis. Gibbe has been 1498 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 2: there since Thursday of last week. He's he's got his hotels, 1499 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 2: he's locked in. Is the g man with him in tow? 1500 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 3: Yes? And doctor J and doctor J. 1501 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 2: Yes, they're all in the mix. 1502 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 1503 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 2: What are they doing tonight? You think? 1504 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 3: Who knows? My guess is there either gonna go because 1505 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 3: we don't have the Nada thing on the books this year. 1506 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 3: I might guess they'll either go to Nada or they'll 1507 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 3: go to uh Iorias, that Italian place give always he 1508 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 3: loves that Irias. Yeah, yeah, that would be my guess. 1509 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 2: And he's gonna I mean, this is head honcho, like 1510 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 2: he's gonna be showing them the ropes. A couple of 1511 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 2: young pops are gonna be showing the ropes. Yes, yes, yes, 1512 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,600 Speaker 2: the old bull showing the young caves. Yeah, around a 1513 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 2: little bit of that. Oh man. I'd love a camera 1514 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,719 Speaker 2: on them like him, just showing them how it goes. 1515 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 2: That would be just amazing to me, all right. Tyler 1516 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Sullivan of CBS Sports with a mock draft. I don't know, Tyler. 1517 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 2: I think this is probably the first one of his 1518 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 2: mock drafts we have taken a look at, but at 1519 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 2: number two. After the New York Jets traded up to 1520 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,880 Speaker 2: number one to select cam Ward out of Miami. He 1521 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 2: has us taking Michigan defensive tackle Mason Graham out at 1522 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 2: number two overall. 1523 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 3: So I actually read this, So Tyler Sullivan posted the article. 1524 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 3: But this is actually a mock draft where they alternate 1525 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 3: pick So all the odd picks are made by Ryan 1526 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 3: Mike Renner and the even picks are made by Ryan 1527 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 3: Wilson at CBS. So those are two people we are 1528 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 3: quite familiar with. So Renner number one overall has the 1529 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 3: Jets trading up from seven in a big trade to 1530 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 3: come get cam Ward. Okay, so that's their move. Browns 1531 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 3: he has take Mason Graham. Ryan Wilson does that, says 1532 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 3: super twitchy problem. Did you read this already? 1533 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 2: No, I'm not reading on the show. 1534 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 3: Go ahead, super twitchy. He's a problem, so disruptive in 1535 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,600 Speaker 3: the middle of that defense. Feels a lot like the 1536 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson pick for the Detroit lines a few years ago. 1537 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 3: It's a safe pick, layup, go to bed at night 1538 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 3: and feel good. No I don't feel good. No. He 1539 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,759 Speaker 3: may be great and that's awesome, but until I understand 1540 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 3: what the quarterback plan is, I wouldn't feel that good 1541 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 3: about picking second and coming away without a solution there. 1542 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 3: I've said all along, there's leniency in the sense that 1543 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 3: they're around about ways to do it. But that pick, 1544 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 3: you would feel like should lead to the quarterback. And 1545 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 3: if you're a cam Ward only team, then you be 1546 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 3: the team that gets up there and gets cam Ward. 1547 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,639 Speaker 3: If you're not, if you're like other teams that like Shador, 1548 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna read you now. So Shador goes six to 1549 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 3: the Raiders, and I'm gonna read you what Ryan Wilson says. 1550 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 2: This is gonna annoy me. Go ahead. 1551 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 3: The Raiders' dreams continue to come true. Tom Brady's there, 1552 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 3: They have Pete Carroll, who feels like the right energy 1553 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 3: they need in that building to turn things around. The 1554 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 3: only thing left they need is a quarterback. They get Sanders, 1555 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 3: and I think he throws a pretty darn good deep ball. 1556 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 3: So if the Raiders' dreams continue to come true, taking 1557 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders at six, how is he not a good 1558 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 3: pick for the Browns at two? 1559 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 2: How does every one of these we do when everybody says, well, 1560 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 2: you can't take Shadur at number two, and it's usually 1561 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 2: Shadour because usually cam goes number one, which is why 1562 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 2: we're talking about Shador so much, but it's usually Shadu 1563 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 2: or you can't take Shador or two he's not good enough, 1564 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 2: he's not even sure thing, blah blah blah, fill in 1565 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 2: the blank. He never goes outside of the top ten. 1566 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 2: I think we've done one that had him like falling 1567 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 2: into the twenties. But everything else like either goes to 1568 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 2: the Giants at three, he goes, always goes to the 1569 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 2: Raiders at six, always, always, And it's like, it's like 1570 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 2: the dream scenario for the Raiders of the Giants. We 1571 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,879 Speaker 2: just did one last week where was a dream scenario 1572 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 2: for the Giants that shout Or fell to three. Yeah, 1573 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 2: it's like, well, wait a second. So if he's if 1574 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 2: it's a dream scenario that he's the sixth, the third 1575 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 2: pick in the draft and the positional importance of quarterback, 1576 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 2: why in the hell is he not just going two 1577 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 2: to us? Yes, never stand it. 1578 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 1579 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 2: Not this crazy reach. 1580 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 3: It's wild to me. So he has right, cam Woard 1581 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 3: goes one, Mason Graham two, Travis Hunter three to the Giants, 1582 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 3: Will Campbell four to the Patriots, Abdul Carter, And you 1583 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 3: wonder if you know he's thinking that. What Renter says 1584 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 3: is they need more than just a quarterback, so they're 1585 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 3: gonna go with Travis Hunter. Maybe this is a team 1586 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 3: that they think they're gonna get their hands on. Matt Stafford, 1587 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 3: then Will Campbell, the tackle goes to New England at four. Man, 1588 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 3: if I was Drake May, I'd be like, please just 1589 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 3: take McMillan, come on, help me out. Abdul Carter five 1590 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,480 Speaker 3: to the Jags, Chaudor six. McMillan goes seven to the Titans, 1591 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 3: And so the Titans straight down, they get a ball 1592 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 3: for it, and now they've got McMillan and Calvin Ridley 1593 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 3: and says, if you're trained back, that means you're riding 1594 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,240 Speaker 3: with Will Levis, and Levis can throw a pretty ball, 1595 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 3: and now I'll get some big time receivers on the outside. 1596 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 3: A couple other ones that I thought were interesting. Pick 1597 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 3: twelve Ashton genty to the Dallas Cowboys, a team that 1598 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 3: certainly is looking for a running back. Here's one that 1599 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 3: I thought was really interesting. Thirteenth Luther Burden to the 1600 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,560 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins. 1601 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,719 Speaker 2: Another weapon. Would that mean Tyreek? 1602 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 3: Maybe? Well? 1603 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 2: He and Armando one didn't he say that was so hard. 1604 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 3: To Yeah, then they weren't gonna do it. Yeah, I 1605 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 3: don't know that would be interesting. Colts get Tyler Warren, 1606 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 3: which is a big tight end that could go with, 1607 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 3: you know, their bevy of talent. I mean that that 1608 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 3: feels like a place to me. Now, if let's say 1609 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 3: that that is who they get, that would feel like 1610 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 3: to me if you're a veteran quarterback, you have Jonathan Taylor, 1611 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 3: you got Pittman, you got Pierce, you got Downs, you 1612 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 3: got Odeni Mitchell, and you've now got Tyler warnet tight end. 1613 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pretty good skill group for a 1614 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 3: quarterback to work with in Indianapolis. 1615 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna give you some names. It is 1616 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 2: You're right. I'm gonna give you the names of six 1617 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:28,400 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that are either already available or who seem to 1618 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 2: be trending like they will be available via trade or 1619 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:47,799 Speaker 2: free agency. Okay, Stafford Rogers, Okay, car Okay, Jones, Donald Wilson, yes, okay, 1620 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 2: the only other one you probably put fields in there. 1621 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 2: I guess we're putting Arnald in there. You can put 1622 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 2: fields in there. So that's seven. How would you rank 1623 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 2: those seven like if if just in terms of what 1624 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 2: they have left, not the tax of having to acquire, 1625 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 2: like the tax of having to acquire Stafford, makes that 1626 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,879 Speaker 2: conversation a different one than if you just sign Aaron Rodgers. 1627 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so number one just. 1628 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 2: In terms of what they have left, hout the level 1629 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 2: of play that you believe that they will play at 1630 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 2: next year, regardless of the cost to get them. 1631 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,560 Speaker 3: Number one would be Stafford. 1632 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:28,640 Speaker 2: Yep, Rogers, Car, Jones, Donald Wilson. 1633 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 3: Fields, Donald, Rogers, Car would be the top four. Russell 1634 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 3: Wilson would be five, probably depending where Fields could jump 1635 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 3: all the way up to five. Yeah, but then I 1636 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,360 Speaker 3: go Fields Jones, but I think for example, for our offense, 1637 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,360 Speaker 3: Jones would be better than Fields. 1638 01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:02,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I think one that would be Stafford. 1639 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 2: To me is the only one of these that if 1640 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 2: you had him and you had everything else relatively buttressed, 1641 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,519 Speaker 2: Yeah you can, you could say, let's go win it, 1642 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,640 Speaker 2: make a rip at it. Yep, Yeah, let's go make 1643 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:21,960 Speaker 2: a rip. I think Rogers we had with shoes in 1644 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 2: on and he wasn't quite as sold on him being washed, 1645 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 2: so that gave me pause with him. 1646 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 3: I on. 1647 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 2: Second, I mean no, no, no, I agree, yeah, yeah. Third, 1648 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 2: you had Donald second, Yeah. 1649 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 3: Donald Donald played really really well. 1650 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 2: I like him, and I thought, you know this, it's 1651 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 2: he's obviously a very cerebral kid who thrives in the 1652 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 2: type of offenses, for example, that we have. I mean, 1653 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 2: you know, so you understand how the Rams would have 1654 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he was in their operation, so they know 1655 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 2: exactly what he is. Like, I get it, I get 1656 01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 2: the I get all of it. This wasn't necessarily saying 1657 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 2: that you had those wrong between Rogers and Darnold or so, 1658 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 2: just that what was Shoesin said about Rogers was illuminating 1659 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, because I was more of the belief 1660 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 2: of I think he's cooked. But then his comments were 1661 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 2: a little bit different. 1662 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 3: Well, he might it the stubbornness that he has about 1663 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 3: the type of offense that he wants to run might 1664 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 3: make him appear to be more cooked than he maybe 1665 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 3: really is fair. 1666 01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,480 Speaker 2: That's a very fair point. The one I'm curious about. 1667 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 2: The one I'm curious about would be Carr in terms 1668 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 2: of because he's been hurt, it's been a while since 1669 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,639 Speaker 2: he's when is the last time he's played like, I'll 1670 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 2: pull it up right now. I was just curious, when's 1671 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 2: the last time for daily are He played seventeen games 1672 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 2: in New Orleans in twenty twenty three. I mean, like, 1673 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 2: for example, okay, we would die for this. 1674 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 3: Of course, he's much better than people think he is. 1675 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,599 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, two years ago, went first year 1676 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,720 Speaker 2: in New Orleans sixty eight percent, thirty eight seventy eight, 1677 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,439 Speaker 2: twenty five touchdowns, eight picks, a cute A rating of 1678 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:11,639 Speaker 2: ninety seven point seven. 1679 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 3: Right. The thing with Derek Carr is is that Derek 1680 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 3: carr is kind of at this point proven to be 1681 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 3: whether it's I always go back to kind of that 1682 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 3: anti dalton ish where is. 1683 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 2: He better than that? 1684 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 3: No? 1685 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 2: You don't think, no, he's. 1686 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 3: Solid, but you're not. I don't think you're ever thinking 1687 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 3: that you're in danger of of making a deep run 1688 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 3: with him. 1689 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 2: No, not in this AFC. 1690 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 3: I think it best the playoffs once, do you know that? 1691 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1692 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 3: One playoff appearance is that it? That's it. Well, in 1693 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen he got hurt. That's when they were going 1694 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 3: to be the it team. But then the next year 1695 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,760 Speaker 3: he came back and had a down year, and then 1696 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 3: they were went kind of in a spiral. He played 1697 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 3: one playoff game with Las Vegas ten and seven, twenty three, 1698 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 3: went nine and eight last year five and five. I 1699 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 3: mean he's a he's kind of a five hundred quarterback, 1700 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 3: and for his career he's seventy seven and ninety two. 1701 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 3: Just he is solid and has some monster games, but 1702 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 3: also does some some maddening things. 1703 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 2: I think, like I think he was hurt so bad 1704 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 2: by hard knocks. 1705 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:23,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, Like Dalton had four straight ten win seasons. 1706 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 3: When Dalton was humming four straight ten win seasons. We're 1707 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 3: going back to the early twenty teams. You know, forty two, 1708 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 3: ninety three and thirty three touchdowns, like those are solid numbers. 1709 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,600 Speaker 3: I mean he petered off three time Pro bowler, but 1710 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 3: four straight he had. He opened his career with five 1711 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 3: straight seasons of nine wins or more. Yeah, he hasn't 1712 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 3: had a winning season since then, since twenty fifteen. But 1713 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,600 Speaker 3: I always I'm when I say Dalton, I'm more like 1714 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 3: that peak. 1715 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the peak Dalton. Yeah. Yeah. Pittsburgh's got big, a 1716 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,600 Speaker 2: big job ahead of them right now. They have no quarterbacks. 1717 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 2: I mean that's us and them who have to fill 1718 01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 2: quarterback rooms for next year. That's you know, yes, they 1719 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 2: got work to do. 1720 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 3: Here, and a big competition to do. So, I'm part 1721 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 3: of the thing that we talk about how it's difficult 1722 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 3: to do. You know, where are you going to find 1723 01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 3: that quarterback? Oh, let's get you know, that veteran who's 1724 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 3: going to get us to nine and eight? Eight and nine? 1725 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,720 Speaker 3: And now look where they are. Are they going to 1726 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 3: be able to get a quarterback? No, So it's it's 1727 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 3: just very very it's a tough situation. 1728 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 2: I think if I'm them, if I was a team, 1729 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 2: if them us everybody, I don't know that I would ever. 1730 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 2: I'd almost kind of go back to the old Ron 1731 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,599 Speaker 2: wolf like draft one every year. Yep, Like just Draft 1732 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 2: one every year. You know, hopefully maybe one of them hits, 1733 01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,640 Speaker 2: you know, like Wolfe was an expert at it, and 1734 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if they were just ahead of the 1735 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 2: game when it came to the ability to do so. 1736 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,760 Speaker 2: But obviously the forty nine ers are right there with 1737 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 2: Carmon Policy and Dewy Clark and Bill Walsh in that 1738 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,040 Speaker 2: group because they had quarterback after quarterback. I mean, it 1739 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 2: wasn't just Young behind Montana and they acquired a young 1740 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 2: via trade, but like Gerbach was behind him, they had Bono, 1741 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 2: they had other guys who were like NFL starters love 1742 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 2: Love Me Some, Stevie Bono and then and same thing 1743 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 2: with the Packers, I mean they had with Hasselbeck and Brunnell. 1744 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 2: I mean they drafted guys, developed them, and they became 1745 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,640 Speaker 2: assets or they became backups on their roster. Like I 1746 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 2: think some of these teams, if you don't have one 1747 01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 2: of these guys locked in, if you don't have a 1748 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,599 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels with his whole career ahead of him, I'd 1749 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 2: pick one in every draft. I just keep hit chief 1750 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 2: swinging until you hit on one. If you you know 1751 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 2: pretty quick too, you can know it's not that hard 1752 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,320 Speaker 2: anymore to determine if a guy can go or not. 1753 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, no, And there's nothing absolutely wrong taking some 1754 01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 3: of those guys in the Yeah, mid rounds, find that backup, 1755 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 3: find everybody you can, no doubt. 1756 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, it'll be interesting. And so I guess 1757 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,720 Speaker 2: the point of that exercise of bringing all those names 1758 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 2: up to you was there's actually a lot more out 1759 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 2: there than there was a year ago. Yeah, there's a 1760 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,680 Speaker 2: lot of names. I mean, now that Stafford's name is 1761 01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 2: in it, that kind of changes all of it. He's 1762 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,680 Speaker 2: not been released and you're gonna have to trade for him, 1763 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,200 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to sign you an extension. But 1764 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 2: the Rams went to hit a guy who won the 1765 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl a couple years ago and said, hey, if 1766 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 2: you can find a better deal, it's a place you 1767 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 2: want to go. Well, listen, let's see what the market is. 1768 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,200 Speaker 2: That's a pretty big game changer for the NFL heading 1769 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 2: into the combine. 1770 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's why this is going to be an 1771 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 3: intriguing one at the combine. And it's interesting because there 1772 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,479 Speaker 3: isn't a ton of free agency buzz at this combine. 1773 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily a great free agency class. Dane Jeremiah 1774 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 3: was just saying, you know, he thinks a lot of 1775 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,400 Speaker 3: teams are gonna sign people to extensions, you know, at 1776 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 3: the combine because it's not a great free agency class. 1777 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 3: Might as well lock up your know, your people that 1778 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:05,760 Speaker 3: you believe in. Yeah, which is a valid point. And 1779 01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 3: the quarterback dominoes, though, are monstrous. I don't think there's 1780 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 3: if you were to ask me today, if I had to, 1781 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, put a Sprocket, a spacely Sprocket on. You 1782 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 3: know what's I don't think Stafford's going anywhere either, I 1783 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,080 Speaker 3: don't know how much true interest there's going to be 1784 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 3: in Rogers anywhere, very specific places I think for him, yep. 1785 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 3: And then you know, does Russ end up with Pete 1786 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 3: Carroll does? To me, the most interesting one is going 1787 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 3: to end up being Darnald and the Vikings and what 1788 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 3: that looks like. 1789 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a true free agent though, right he is? 1790 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 3: He is. I just think you know, when you're a 1791 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 3: quarterback who's kind of in this you know, reclamation what 1792 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,960 Speaker 3: you'll call it phase, when you get somewhere and it 1793 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 3: works out kind of better than maybe anybody you know, 1794 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,759 Speaker 3: really thought that it might. Yeah, you like to stay there? 1795 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Yes, you know. 1796 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,719 Speaker 3: Bake was like this work, this was great here in Tampa. 1797 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay here. And so they gave him kind 1798 01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,599 Speaker 3: of that mid level money and he's played very very well. 1799 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,760 Speaker 3: I would imagine Darnold would want to stay there. 1800 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean think so too. Yeah, it'll be a big 1801 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,040 Speaker 2: topic this week for sure, so much more to come. 1802 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 2: Listen to Clevel the Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN. 1803 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:29,559 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Beck, an official 1804 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,280 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns on eight to 1805 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: fifty esp and Cleveland. 1806 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,479 Speaker 2: All right, tomorrow, we will join you from Indianapolis. General 1807 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 2: Manager Andrew Berry will join the program live from Indy. 1808 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,760 Speaker 2: We will see the Gibbet. We'll see each other in 1809 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 2: person in Indy. We're back. 1810 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 3: What a treat, What a treat it's gonna be. 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