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Speaker 3: I don't even come outside.
Speaker 4: For less for less than this is? This is we
Speaker 4: are here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell them who we are with.
Speaker 3: Oh, President, didn't they look at this credits here? You
Speaker 3: know we're gonna get into the credits.
Speaker 2: I just want to announce my brother in the building,
Speaker 2: Terrence Punch Henderson, the president of t D right now currently.
Speaker 6: Currently appreciate that. Are you feeling, brother man, I'm good money.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I know that, I know Broy Yeah, t D of course.
Speaker 5: Like it's it's.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a thing you know that
Speaker 2: that we're all able to recognize when we're in this business.
Speaker 5: And there's the word is dominance. When when you have.
Speaker 2: A crew or or a label or you know, a
Speaker 2: thing that comes along and just says, look, we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna own the time for a moment. We're gonna
Speaker 2: lock up billboard, We're gonna lock up social media.
Speaker 5: We're gonna lock up branding.
Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna just lock that up for a
Speaker 2: moment and secure a spot amongst the.
Speaker 5: Top of everything.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, because you can call it out the people
Speaker 2: that are at the top of the game. It's not
Speaker 2: a mystery. We know who's in the fucks these peoples
Speaker 2: are right, and you guys keep doing it? Man, what
Speaker 2: what why are you doing this?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 2: Why be so disrespectful that the was that the goal
Speaker 2: to disrespect everybody?
Speaker 7: Absolutely come through and shake this thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but now you know what it's really just about,
Speaker 6: in its essence, is just the passion and love for
Speaker 6: what we're doing, You know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 6: sound like too much of a cliche answer, but it's real,
Speaker 6: Like I think we'll be doing it, most of us
Speaker 6: be doing it free if it wasn't even getting paid.
Speaker 6: So it's that that same passion and love that we
Speaker 6: started with, and people just happen to relate to it.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do it unless you have
Speaker 2: that right because everything else is so fleeting, everything else
Speaker 2: is up and down, and so is what is the nuance?
Speaker 2: What is the deciding factor in you staying in when
Speaker 2: when the desires and the dreams look cloudy and don't
Speaker 2: look like they're adding up to the thing that you
Speaker 2: believed it was going to.
Speaker 6: Be, it's gotta be some love involved, No, absolutely, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. That's what it's all about to me,
Speaker 6: is the It's that exchange of love back and forth,
Speaker 6: like once I learned something, then I can pass it
Speaker 6: to somebody else. And the joy they feel when they
Speaker 6: learn something new, you see it in their face, Like
Speaker 6: that's the the essence when you strip everything down to
Speaker 6: its bare minimum for me, and that's whether it's learning
Speaker 6: the new concept, learning how to write a certain way,
Speaker 6: learning how to vocalize a certain way, like just the learning.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the love for learning that really keep
Speaker 6: me going and motivated.
Speaker 8: So to expound on something you said, just even you're
Speaker 8: saying stripping things down right, right, let's let's let's let's
Speaker 8: let's go back to the beginning and strip down this
Speaker 8: whole inception and the mindset that you guys had with
Speaker 8: starting to label like TD.
Speaker 7: Right, So I start from the beginning. I was.
Speaker 6: I was trying to start my own record company with
Speaker 6: a couple of more partners that I went to school
Speaker 6: with you know what I mean, I learned very quick
Speaker 6: that you need a few dollars to to get that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I was just always constantly studying music, the music industry,
Speaker 6: anything I gotta do with it. The magazine pop up,
Speaker 6: I'm reading the cover to cover, an interview on I'm
Speaker 6: watching it behind the scenes. Come, I'm looking at that
Speaker 6: and uh top, who's my blood relative?
Speaker 5: Oh y'all family? Family?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Okay, actually yeah, uh his mom and my grandmother sisters.
Speaker 5: Wow, makes even more sense now, right.
Speaker 6: So he was just getting started in the music business,
Speaker 6: so he won foot in the street, one foot, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, trying to get things going. So
Speaker 6: he built the studio at his house and Carson. So
Speaker 6: I always pull up, like I have a little lunch
Speaker 6: break or something that worked.
Speaker 5: How far is is Watts to Carson?
Speaker 6: It's, uh, well, Compton is right in between. So it's Watts,
Speaker 6: Compton and Carson if you're traveling straight down Central, so
Speaker 6: it's one city over. But so yeah, I pull up
Speaker 6: on him, and you know, we'll just talk and talk
Speaker 6: and talk and just had these conversations about music and
Speaker 6: about business.
Speaker 7: So at one point he was like, Yo, you just
Speaker 7: come over here and do it with me.
Speaker 6: So I'm like yeah, So that happened, and that's when
Speaker 6: the early days of TD started the form. So we
Speaker 6: have artists coming through and producers coming through making beats.
Speaker 6: So eventually Jay Rock came through maybe a few months
Speaker 6: after that. Kendrick came through a year later. So then
Speaker 6: we got school Boy Q shortly after him.
Speaker 5: So and what year is this?
Speaker 6: This is uh, it's about four, roughly maybe three going
Speaker 6: into four.
Speaker 5: So what look, so.
Speaker 2: What was your your setup in terms like in terms
Speaker 2: of the structure, what was the invitation because you're saying
Speaker 2: you guys were starting a record company, right, and what
Speaker 2: did that necessarily entail to to get the word out,
Speaker 2: to get people thinking that they needed to come through
Speaker 2: and see what you guys were doing.
Speaker 6: I mean, our whole thing was just trying to figure
Speaker 6: out a way to get to these major labels. So
Speaker 6: he was doing stuff like this, snak the top or
Speaker 6: go to the industry book, that thick industry book they
Speaker 6: and in the back it's a glossary like everybody names
Speaker 6: and positions and they offer his phone numbers. So he
Speaker 6: had called a label and fake like he had a
Speaker 6: meeting with the CEO whatever and they end up calling
Speaker 6: him back and build a relationship like that.
Speaker 7: It was that or we go pack down record plants
Speaker 7: you in there, we.
Speaker 5: Go you've lived on.
Speaker 7: Figures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you guys were really like, we're going to
Speaker 2: start a record company, and it's going to just encompass
Speaker 2: everything a record company does, and then we're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna start looking for the pieces to put together to
Speaker 2: make it what it is.
Speaker 5: And then you start naming all the all the artists. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and Jay Rock obviously from your neighborhood.
Speaker 8: So that's that made the most sense in the beginning, right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: it's talented young homie from your neighborhood.
Speaker 5: It's the first thing we're gonna invest in.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: But the thing is, like we was winging it, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean were trying to see what was going to stick. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because again, we didn't have no prior experience in how
Speaker 6: to build a record label. So we're just going off
Speaker 6: of kind of you know, I mean, just pieces that
Speaker 6: we seeing or stuff we're hearing about and just building
Speaker 6: from there. Like even the way Jay Rock came about,
Speaker 6: like it was another guy from our neighborhood that was
Speaker 6: supposed to be coming to the studio that day. So
Speaker 6: Top hit, He'm like, y'all, I'm gonna be over there.
Speaker 6: You're gonna pick y'all up for the studio. So this
Speaker 6: kid got impatient, like I guess he was waiting on
Speaker 6: the ports too long, and Jay Rock was with him.
Speaker 7: So this nigga ended up.
Speaker 5: Leaving Jay Rock stay.
Speaker 7: Jay Rock stayed.
Speaker 6: As soon as he walked out, that's from Top pulled up.
Speaker 6: I was like, where so and so at man, he
Speaker 6: took off. I'm finna go to the studio rolling. Jay
Speaker 6: Rock opped in the car. Another dude opp in the car.
Speaker 6: Once he hear a Jay Rock voice, that.
Speaker 8: Was it's how long did it take y'all to get
Speaker 8: the Warner deal?
Speaker 7: Uh? We got the Warner That was your first was the.
Speaker 5: First one street into the major label system? Right, yep?
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 6: We got that deal off of tops relationships, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like, we didn't build the buzz in
Speaker 6: the street first yet, and then because of the buzz.
Speaker 7: Get the deal.
Speaker 6: So it was all on relationships and they heard rock
Speaker 6: and they like rock, and that was the deal.
Speaker 7: From there, I think that was about oh six maybe so.
Speaker 5: A few years then, yeah, for sure. So had you
Speaker 5: guys had any music out?
Speaker 6: Not really because this but again, this is a funny
Speaker 6: time in the business to transition between all of the
Speaker 6: digital stuff and then the blog era.
Speaker 7: And all of this stuff. So it was like, where
Speaker 7: do you actually put it out?
Speaker 6: We press somem CDs up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: and you know, we get out and go try to
Speaker 6: sell them and hand them out.
Speaker 7: But that was the extent of it at that time.
Speaker 5: So at this point it's just really money going out.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, letric build.
Speaker 8: Crazy, right, I mean, because that's that's the thing, right,
Speaker 8: Like we always talk about it. We pride ourselves on
Speaker 8: being an informative show absolutely, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: and letting people know like what this thing takes and
Speaker 8: how this you know. Obviously we're in a different era
Speaker 8: now where a lot of cast is getting.
Speaker 5: Cracking on their phone.
Speaker 8: Yeah that's far in few, right, people don't And a
Speaker 8: lot of those casts that got cracked on that phone
Speaker 8: was only cracking for a year, six months, eighteen months.
Speaker 8: We're talking about twenty years, twenty plus years inste that
Speaker 8: y'all still doing your thing and at the highest level.
Speaker 8: So that initial three years probably helps sustain what you
Speaker 8: guys are now, oh.
Speaker 6: For sure, because that built all of the chemistry that built.
Speaker 6: That was the learning period, That was the incubation, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, like everything we imagine everything we're
Speaker 6: doing now during that time for like what you said though,
Speaker 6: like money was just going out, like everybody eating off
Speaker 6: the top pocket at this point.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, everybody, the whole team at
Speaker 7: this point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, ain't nobody got no jobs. Ain't nobody everybody
Speaker 6: trying to do this music thing. So that's the dollar
Speaker 6: menu on a jack in the box every day.
Speaker 5: Me and mister split the happy Males. Yeah, right around
Speaker 5: the corner.
Speaker 3: To the mind and caramel Apple.
Speaker 5: I know the menu, will That's exactly what it was
Speaker 5: trying to figure it out.
Speaker 7: So and again the studio is attached to the tops house.
Speaker 6: So, like I said, when the electric bill going crazy,
Speaker 6: like we were running the studio all night.
Speaker 8: That's that's the part I was going to ask you
Speaker 8: about that because you said you put a studio at
Speaker 8: his house.
Speaker 5: Right, So not only.
Speaker 8: Is this like you know this that he has for
Speaker 8: you know, creating this label. It's not like he got
Speaker 8: this somewhere else either, right, y'all going to his house
Speaker 8: every day.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, So.
Speaker 6: It's a door that lead into the house from the studio,
Speaker 6: so things going right to the kitchen too, right yeah,
Speaker 6: and eating up all a couple of noodles and cereal
Speaker 6: and whatever. So it was like really everybody's house at
Speaker 6: this point. He welcomed everybody in. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. But again, that was the that was the
Speaker 6: period that really cemented us in what we was doing
Speaker 6: in our goals.
Speaker 8: And ultimately there was no real success from that first deal.
Speaker 7: No, it was not at all.
Speaker 5: So now you go three years, you get to the deal, but.
Speaker 8: Then you also find out what this music business shit
Speaker 8: it's really about.
Speaker 6: All we learned quick because we thought once Swoon's Rock signed,
Speaker 6: we won.
Speaker 7: It's over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that littlely you know, that's when it starts, right,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, That's when it really you
Speaker 6: really got to get cooking at this point. So we
Speaker 6: were sitting back taking a lot of direction from the
Speaker 6: record company, which never been the thing to do, just
Speaker 6: from a standpoint of we dictate the culture, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, and they helped facilitate what we dictate.
Speaker 6: So we was sitting back and waiting for them to
Speaker 6: do it and tell us what to do and how
Speaker 6: to move and this and that, and we ended up
Speaker 6: just being stagnant for a while. And once we finally
Speaker 6: got some movement, like after we had it's gonna impact
Speaker 6: that radio with the joint, that rock deal with Lil
Speaker 6: Wayne caught all my.
Speaker 7: Life, my life the week before. It was a whole
Speaker 7: regime change at the label.
Speaker 6: Been there, b We all know about those, right, So
Speaker 6: when they come in, they shut down everything that was
Speaker 6: going on before them.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And we're like, yo, we hot just one week a
Speaker 6: week before. Shit, So they, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: shut that down or whatever. So radio backed up. We
Speaker 6: ain't really get no real spins on it like we
Speaker 6: should have or whatever.
Speaker 5: Like this.
Speaker 6: When Wayne was at his peak, it's like eight, you
Speaker 6: got everything you need the boy, we got our you
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So you can imagine how we felt at the time.
Speaker 5: So do you immediately try to get out of the deal.
Speaker 7: Nah. We actually said, you know what, it's a regime change.
Speaker 7: I understand it. This business. Let's try to rock with
Speaker 7: these dudes and see, you know what I mean, Well,
Speaker 7: we can get get out of it. So we ended
Speaker 7: up going through another year of hoops and then pushing
Speaker 7: the gold post back. M hmm, because what I actually
Speaker 7: figured out.
Speaker 6: Was they didn't really want us there, but they didn't
Speaker 6: want to droppers m hm. You know burbank is right
Speaker 6: around the corner. You can drive up the burbank, So
Speaker 6: they didn't want to deal with that headache, so to speak.
Speaker 8: And at that time, I want to say, there was
Speaker 8: no other rap over there was it, you know what
Speaker 8: that time because I mean Warner at that time, in
Speaker 8: my opinion, was known for R and B and like
Speaker 8: Eric was signed there at that time.
Speaker 7: Right at that time, it was us. It was Mike Jones.
Speaker 5: Was Mike Jones.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then uh forty when he had that surgeons.
Speaker 5: Or whatever he did, he had he did have that.
Speaker 5: He did have that dealer at the time.
Speaker 7: And a little scrappy was over there too, So they
Speaker 7: had like that thing going the west.
Speaker 5: And mixed south. Yeah.
Speaker 6: But so they were asked us to do stuff. We'll
Speaker 6: hit that goal and then they'll move it. Say all right,
Speaker 6: now you gotta do this. Then we do that spot
Speaker 6: in the time, right, because they really they was doing
Speaker 6: stuff like when they knew we was coming to the building,
Speaker 6: you know, down their promo room. They had their priorities.
Speaker 6: They hurry up it right at the name at the
Speaker 6: top of the board for a couple post is up here,
Speaker 6: right look j Rock exactly. But we had gotten so
Speaker 6: cool with like the interns and everybody in the building
Speaker 6: what they was doing, their callers, and like, yo, man,
Speaker 6: they just put that stuff up right before y'all can.
Speaker 7: So we like, all, we know what time it is,
Speaker 7: so we went, uh, we end up acting for the
Speaker 7: release and what year is this?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: This is twenty ten.
Speaker 8: It's now twenty ten, right from an initial deal that
Speaker 8: got done in six right, oh yeah, yeah, come on,
Speaker 8: you got to speak on it, bro, because people think
Speaker 8: it just got cracking because we haven't even got into
Speaker 8: scope yet.
Speaker 5: Then got scope. What I'm saying, he ain't got into
Speaker 5: section eighty yet.
Speaker 7: Right, it's insane. What's funny is.
Speaker 6: Rock was shooting the Freshman cover twenty ten Double XL
Speaker 6: Freshman the same day me and Top went to the
Speaker 6: office to ask for the release.
Speaker 7: So we in the office, you know, I mean, we're
Speaker 7: going back and forth, we arguing with these dudes, and what.
Speaker 6: Stuck out to me was one of the head guys,
Speaker 6: was like, you know what, we like you guys. You
Speaker 6: guys are cool. Call us if you ever get a
Speaker 6: Southern artist. And I'm like, that's right. That was my face,
Speaker 6: just like that, like what are you talking about? Southern artist?
Speaker 7: So it let me know then, like how the industry worked.
Speaker 7: So it's hot time. So that's what they wanted to
Speaker 7: focus on, and that.
Speaker 5: Is what they had been making some money off of.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: This is when oj the Juice Man was hot, like
Speaker 6: I said, Mike Jones, and the Houston thing was moving,
Speaker 6: Little John was popping, Atlanta was booming. So it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: you're not looking for talent, you're looking for whatever the
Speaker 6: trend is. So we don't belong here nowhere like all right,
Speaker 6: were out, So we left with everything like all the
Speaker 6: masters and a promo van m.
Speaker 5: Hmm got down you heard him, pat down, left with
Speaker 5: a Warner promo ban promot.
Speaker 7: Leave so wrapped it in j Rocks. Oh man, we outside.
Speaker 7: We took that thing across the country two times.
Speaker 5: Oh, this is great, that's great.
Speaker 2: When when I got when I got out of my deal,
Speaker 2: I don't think I took a promoman with yeah you
Speaker 2: still got the kids right, You got the kids right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Love that thing up put them in there too.
Speaker 7: It's funny. But you know what, though, what we learned
Speaker 7: from that is we can't rely on nobody but us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so looking back at it, it was a blessings
Speaker 6: a teacher, but moment teacher, absolutely absolutely, because now Kendrick
Speaker 6: is bubbling, so we know what to do now.
Speaker 2: So he's bubbling right after you guys walk away from
Speaker 2: that deal, yep, and and what what how is he bubbling?
Speaker 5: What is he on? What did he do?
Speaker 6: This is so now this is the blog era, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So when you send the blogs
Speaker 6: your record, they're doing right up on it Man introduced
Speaker 6: and you letting people know who you are, where you're from,
Speaker 6: and then they'll post a song and people are going
Speaker 6: during comment.
Speaker 7: So that was the thing.
Speaker 6: So all the blogs start showing a lot of love
Speaker 6: at that point. So whenever we blast out a joint,
Speaker 6: everybody will posted everywhere. So we started getting a little
Speaker 6: traction that way. So now's we're going straight to the
Speaker 6: people now, as opposed to waiting on a record company
Speaker 6: to do something.
Speaker 5: And at this point, Kendrick is hype man. He going
Speaker 5: road with him, right he was.
Speaker 7: I mean that's what technically, yes, but I mean not really.
Speaker 8: He's doing his own artist thing. But to put him
Speaker 8: on stages, he's on stage with Rock.
Speaker 7: See, the plan was we want to showcase Kendrick too.
Speaker 6: Okay, you know what I mean, because he building at
Speaker 6: the same time Rock building everything Rock going through.
Speaker 7: He's going through right next to him.
Speaker 6: So if Rock got a show, we have Kendrick do
Speaker 6: two songs in the middle of his set, wild hype
Speaker 6: man until yeah, so he hyped man for rock, Rock
Speaker 6: would go off. He'll do two records Rock come back,
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean. So that's how we
Speaker 6: was running the thing so you can get familiar with him.
Speaker 5: It's very.
Speaker 2: Town yeah right, you know what I'm saying, Very very
Speaker 2: bad boy ish, very like just continuing to use the heat.
Speaker 7: Yes, right on over, absolutely, right on over, Like yeah,
Speaker 7: I love that. No, for sure, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 6: Like we're a team, you know what I'm saying, even
Speaker 6: with rock, like Rock making his album, everybody's involved. Yeah,
Speaker 6: if they got a chorus, idea, let me try this
Speaker 6: hook on your thing, all right, back do it. If
Speaker 6: somebody got a beat they got from somebody, this might
Speaker 6: fit rock for his album to send it to him.
Speaker 7: Like everything was was team oriented.
Speaker 5: Was it a thing?
Speaker 2: Where was it a thing where where it was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what's lined up right now. As you say that,
Speaker 2: rock is lined up right now? So everything is rock.
Speaker 2: Everybody all hands on deck, absolutely on rock time.
Speaker 6: Yep, that was the That was the mindset because this
Speaker 6: was this is the motion we had at the at
Speaker 6: that point.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He had the record deal, he had the most buzzed.
Speaker 6: So if he crack off, that's gonna open the door.
Speaker 5: For everybody else.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And as y'all putting these records out with dot,
Speaker 8: the blocks start taking to them, right, and then y'all
Speaker 8: start working on section eighty.
Speaker 6: Yes, even before that though I'm missing the section, we'll
Speaker 6: start getting a lot of interest. When we went to
Speaker 6: the East Coast and we did a lot of serious
Speaker 6: satellite freestyles, and that this would be like if we
Speaker 6: see old footage, is us and Nipsey up there, so
Speaker 6: it's like he was on the same circuit.
Speaker 7: He'll be leaving the uh.
Speaker 5: You said picked up on my phone.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 7: God, that's crazy. But we're on Sirious like Nipple.
Speaker 6: Be leaving one of the shows, We'll be walking right
Speaker 6: in and it's a few times that we intersected and
Speaker 6: then you know, freestyle together. Once people start seeing us
Speaker 6: doing that, that gained a little notoriety back here, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And that started happening around the
Speaker 6: same time the blog earl was starting, so everything was moving.
Speaker 8: That's back when all media had to come through the
Speaker 8: East coast, right, you had you had to take that
Speaker 8: trip to New York. Like listen, we all remember that time.
Speaker 8: That's been really been in this industry. Like you had
Speaker 8: to do your press run, you had your label meetings,
Speaker 8: you had to go to New York, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 7: And that's when I got a lot of a lot
Speaker 7: of my connections.
Speaker 6: Like when we do the press run with Warner, I
Speaker 6: got Richie Abbitt, he was the publicist there and he
Speaker 6: was so cool, like he was showing me the ropes
Speaker 6: while we were doing the press run. So he's introducing
Speaker 6: me to everybody in every spot too. So now when
Speaker 6: we go and it's not about rock, I can make
Speaker 6: these same phone calls and pull Schoolboy Q through and
Speaker 6: pull Abs sold through. Yeah, I mean before you, I
Speaker 6: mean they started bubbling like they did. I've been talking
Speaker 6: to a cat from Universal and I'm like, Yo, we
Speaker 6: got this kid, Kendrick Lamar you come in this and
Speaker 6: that like, okay, cool, nothing happened.
Speaker 7: Talk to him a few months later, Yo, this kid
Speaker 7: Kendrick is moving. Bro mean I might want to try
Speaker 7: to do something like yeah, I heard his name. I
Speaker 7: keep working all right, So now Kendrick is hot.
Speaker 6: A few months later and I'm like, yo, he's like, man,
Speaker 6: I know you man, y'all coming to New York and
Speaker 6: his time soon said, we ain't got no plans for it,
Speaker 6: but whatever whatever. Doctor Dre said his nigga name on
Speaker 6: the radio on part one on six, same exect called me, Hey,
Speaker 6: we want to fly out out right now.
Speaker 5: Can you get to the right I was like, how many?
Speaker 5: How many tickets y'all need? Book? You say your name,
Speaker 5: say your name? They wait, no, say Bubby Johnson.
Speaker 1: You get to the airport.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: It was funny that that switch because this whole time
Speaker 6: we had been pursuing. Right now it's transition into what
Speaker 6: we pursued.
Speaker 7: A little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, loft the Theaterre.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know, but yeah about that was exactly.
Speaker 5: That's how the ship goes. So here's the question when
Speaker 5: Dre is saying his name is Drake involved at that
Speaker 5: point or he just shouted him We had met him yet,
Speaker 5: we didn't even met him yet. But what made him
Speaker 5: shout him out.
Speaker 7: There's a few different stories. A few different people said
Speaker 7: they told Dre about Kendrick.
Speaker 5: You know him, the one right, yeah, right.
Speaker 6: So however that happened through some of them, people like
Speaker 6: he ended up looking at his stuff and he liked it.
Speaker 6: So he just happened to be doing a uh interview
Speaker 6: with Big Boy, which he don't even do interviews. I
Speaker 6: think he was just starting to was he starting to
Speaker 6: push Cush at that time? I don't remember what he
Speaker 6: was doing, but he was interviewing and they asked him
Speaker 6: about a new artist like this kid from a Compton
Speaker 6: named Kendrick lamar Stock went up instantly.
Speaker 2: The reason I asked that is when you say, Dre,
Speaker 2: I was trying to get Kendrick on the record. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And and myogi was like, no, I'm gonna call I'm
Speaker 2: call top, I'm gonna get it done.
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, cool, this is right before,
Speaker 5: you know, right before the mayhem for sure being pursued.
Speaker 5: It ain't go boom yet, right, it was there, and
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm about to get this.
Speaker 2: Niggas like Tank, it's gonna cost you know, it's gonna
Speaker 2: cost this man, Mike. I think he's worth it. I
Speaker 2: think we give it to him. It's like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him know. And I think maybe a
Speaker 2: couple of days it went by and I was like, so,
Speaker 2: what's the what's the word on Kendrick? Yeah, apparently Dre
Speaker 2: said he not doing no more features.
Speaker 5: What have to do?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: I was Nick Money, ready that song. Ready, I'm about
Speaker 2: to get Kendrick Lamar. And the pursuit has gotten to
Speaker 2: a point to where it's untouchable.
Speaker 5: At this point, you weren't part of the plan.
Speaker 3: Good luck.
Speaker 5: And shut down. It is a wrap. Next time you
Speaker 5: see him, he will be heading the.
Speaker 4: Ring near you.
Speaker 7: So they got a little different.
Speaker 5: I got the ass. So you go do y'all take
Speaker 5: the trip to New York. Oh absolutely, let's take the trip.
Speaker 7: Oh man, we met with everybody too, like they flow.
Speaker 5: Us out and yeah, I've been there, don't get courted.
Speaker 2: One lay won't label flies you out. The other labels
Speaker 2: find out you're there. Listen, how much how much jil
Speaker 2: friscos do.
Speaker 7: You want bro.
Speaker 5: Give me?
Speaker 7: As in Club Red Velvet cheese cake.
Speaker 6: We had a ball, but it's like we just wanted
Speaker 6: to see what you know what I mean, what the
Speaker 6: thing was. Man, it was such a drastic difference from
Speaker 6: us saying, yo, we dope to people saying yo, y'all
Speaker 6: told like it's insane.
Speaker 5: So we met.
Speaker 7: I think we hit everybody. Were the Atlantic, we had
Speaker 7: the Borner, we had Death Jam, did the Universal Meeting,
Speaker 7: all types of stuff. And this was all before we
Speaker 7: even went sat down with Dre.
Speaker 5: Before you sit down with so obviously something told y'all
Speaker 5: to hold off.
Speaker 6: Though Yeah, we wasn't gonna move until we went and
Speaker 6: hollered at him too, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 6: at this point, it ain't no need to rush, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: We've been waiting for this long.
Speaker 6: Let's see what what everybody's talking about. So we end
Speaker 6: up Kendrick ended up going and writing some records for Dre.
Speaker 7: And uh.
Speaker 8: And section eighty is out at this point, Nah, I'm
Speaker 8: working on sections working on it, yeah, because Section eighty
Speaker 8: was still an indie project though correct.
Speaker 6: Yes, but he was signed to Aftermath Interscope too, but
Speaker 6: they were We let him know that, Yo, we're doing
Speaker 6: this like this one's.
Speaker 7: Still on us, you know what I'm saying, And they
Speaker 7: was good with it.
Speaker 6: And that was one of the reasons why we actually
Speaker 6: said yeah to going with Dre because when we had
Speaker 6: a conversation, he was like, Yo, I don't want to
Speaker 6: change nothing about what y'all doing.
Speaker 7: If it's something I can come in and help and enhanced,
Speaker 7: I mean I'll do that. But other than that, y'all
Speaker 7: just keep moving. How y'all moving? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: If y'all need me, I'm here.
Speaker 5: I mean Section eighty project was that through Empire, That's
Speaker 5: what I thought. That's what I thought.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we got their first platinum.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna make sure them
Speaker 5: away your things, you know, I mean trying to help, right, guys,
Speaker 5: just trying to help me Now, that's that's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 8: And then so now you okay, so you get you
Speaker 8: get to deal with Dre. Yeah, y'all shut down Tanks feature.
Speaker 5: We gotta get back.
Speaker 7: To that man, you gotta that might have been capped
Speaker 7: by the way that might have been I ain't ever
Speaker 7: turned down no bread that might have got lost.
Speaker 5: Let's just re we rig back the conversations you should
Speaker 5: have put down.
Speaker 7: I was trying that's funny.
Speaker 5: So you said, you don't know you're going there.
Speaker 8: So from from that point now we're now we're trying
Speaker 8: to get into the first official relief and right well, now.
Speaker 6: You know what, before that, we did a situation with
Speaker 6: Tech nine and Travis Ogwyn that's strange music.
Speaker 5: I remember that. I do remember that because y'all was
Speaker 5: on y'all was on the road with I do remember that,
Speaker 5: and that right there was h That.
Speaker 6: Was a big learning experience too, because I think they
Speaker 6: showed us how how to tour and how to do
Speaker 6: merch because they operation is the best I've ever seen
Speaker 6: the music business.
Speaker 8: I still don't have a TV. I've been tops with
Speaker 8: my friend for a really long time. Every time I
Speaker 8: see it, I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: You know, I got you right on top. I still
Speaker 2: don't got my hoodie. I would have a TD hoodie
Speaker 2: on right now, would have red had on everything.
Speaker 5: Fake time here.
Speaker 7: Everything to put you on a groove chat with the
Speaker 7: merch du come on man.
Speaker 5: T podcast.
Speaker 7: I make sure y'all good.
Speaker 5: So y'all going tour, y'all y'all on the road.
Speaker 8: Right with tech ninety Yeah, and y'all are seeing because
Speaker 8: this is the part that I'm paying attention to.
Speaker 5: All of the schooling. Yeah over time. Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. That was, man, that was so important.
Speaker 6: Again, just watching how these dudes work, even the markets,
Speaker 6: like they do the A markets, the B markets, then
Speaker 6: they go do the C market, so the SE market
Speaker 6: is covering what they were doing in the B market.
Speaker 7: So it's pretty much all money in yes, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So that they they method of.
Speaker 6: Touring was was really a thing that we took to
Speaker 6: heart and put it incorporated in what we do.
Speaker 8: And that's how you really established artists, yeah, road and
Speaker 8: build up real fan bases. Absolutely, most people ain't going
Speaker 8: to Des Moines, especially urban artists. Ye, real talk, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: People even a major city, people skip over Phoenix.
Speaker 8: In the urban space for sure. R and B definitely
Speaker 8: don't go there, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 8: tough and taking I speak to a lot of people
Speaker 8: who are like, yo, when are y'all coming at Like,
Speaker 8: bro't nobody the booking out here? Are the and it's right,
Speaker 8: it's right next door. But then also stopping in presno,
Speaker 8: stopping in Bakersfield, absolutely.
Speaker 7: All the markets, like people into.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because they think that everybody's just gonna go to Oakland?
Speaker 8: Are people gonna go to Sack? Real talk instead of
Speaker 8: saying no, no, no, no, I'm gonna come to where
Speaker 8: you are. Just do the smaller venue sell that out
Speaker 8: and uh for the tour, where do we go? Uha,
Speaker 8: California because Sacramental on the outside of Sacramento.
Speaker 2: Outside on the outside of Sacramento. Because I asked you,
Speaker 2: I was like, it's people's people. Yeah, he's here, Yeah,
Speaker 2: people coming here.
Speaker 5: Yeah Yeah, we're outside the sack that Jink was sold.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, buddy, okay, all right because I've never
Speaker 2: been there, right, But I'm also a guy that's like
Speaker 2: I'll come yeah, Wheatland's yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's right outside the sack. I'll go anywhere.
Speaker 6: And what's crazy is those people will be the most
Speaker 6: turned Oh it was going up what I'm saying, because
Speaker 6: they don't get to see people yea.
Speaker 2: And mostly there are people from the major cities who
Speaker 2: moved there for either better life, get a bigger, bigger
Speaker 2: house out there, it's more quiet. Sometimes your money go bad,
Speaker 2: you gotta get somewhere where it's more affordable.
Speaker 5: Conve been there.
Speaker 2: You gotta go with your better Corona build up there,
Speaker 2: you gotta go with your money. Stretch a little bit, stretching. Listen,
Speaker 2: I was stretching a Rancho cuckoomung and Corona.
Speaker 5: How was the.
Speaker 3: Cracking? They figured me out.
Speaker 5: It's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I remember a show I did and
Speaker 2: in Fresno. Did you say Fresno in this club? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like about three or four hundred. Yeah, remember that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I say, great remark.
Speaker 8: He was like, Nigga's gonna be crazy because from Fresno
Speaker 8: it was exuing there.
Speaker 5: I remember that show like it was yesterday to this
Speaker 5: had just before downstairs. I remember.
Speaker 6: That's how I go, man, Because again, these people don't
Speaker 6: get people that just come there all the time. So
Speaker 6: when you in their town, they want to go and
Speaker 6: have a blast and they party like they ain't never
Speaker 6: seen you before.
Speaker 8: So is that something that as an executive that you
Speaker 8: push to your artist, that you like when you're having
Speaker 8: your conversations about brand building, about bilding out there fan
Speaker 8: bases like listen, it may not be sweet all the time,
Speaker 8: and it may not be the biggest venues or the
Speaker 8: biggest city sometimes, but these are the people that will
Speaker 8: hold you up.
Speaker 7: Oh one thousand percent.
Speaker 6: Remember the first show we deal with Kendrick, it was
Speaker 6: like eight people in there bro no way, literally like
Speaker 6: eight people, not including the twelve we bought still Rocks.
Speaker 6: It was in the Long Beach hm hmm, yeah, so.
Speaker 7: We went there. I mean the stage was about the
Speaker 7: size of this table right there.
Speaker 6: Well, it's whatever, like, let's get to it. And these days,
Speaker 6: if they ever have fun, they gonna tell people. And
Speaker 6: that's how you build it. Like they tell people, and
Speaker 6: they tell people and they bring folks and you got
Speaker 6: a fan base.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's also a lost start.
Speaker 2: It's like with the phone, everybody makes it seem like,
Speaker 2: you know, as soon as you pop about, it's a
Speaker 2: thousand people there. It's the allure because this is the
Speaker 2: other part about that they introduce in my opinion, they
Speaker 2: introduce urban artists to the festival very early. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: festival used to be something that you had to be
Speaker 2: really established to get there. Now you can have one
Speaker 2: record and they'll put you on a festival show, which
Speaker 2: is kind of crazy. Yeah, because back in the day
Speaker 2: they might the DJ might play your song at the
Speaker 2: festival crowd going.
Speaker 5: Now they're actually paying you to show up to do
Speaker 5: that one song, and it's.
Speaker 2: Great for them because they're getting the energy, the selle,
Speaker 2: the whatever of the one record, But they're crippling you
Speaker 2: as a hard ticket selling artist, right.
Speaker 6: But that's the thing though, like when you say with
Speaker 6: festivals to me, if you unknown, that's the opportunity gains
Speaker 6: more fans, of course, but you can't confuse that with
Speaker 6: your hard ticket sales, like you said, because you'll go
Speaker 6: do a show and nobody show up, and you do
Speaker 6: a festival in the whole tenth for that's because it's
Speaker 6: a thousand other artists on this bill and people are
Speaker 6: floating around to see what's what. So if you're there
Speaker 6: and you got one song, rock out kill it and
Speaker 6: try to gain some more fans. So when you do
Speaker 6: your hard ticket show, some people might show up for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just like the idea of you
Speaker 2: hitting that festival stage and then having to come to
Speaker 2: terms with them seven people.
Speaker 5: That they labeled in that venue, like and that is
Speaker 5: a reality.
Speaker 2: I didn't know nothing about No Festival, so I was never,
Speaker 2: you know, programmed to believing that that would be a
Speaker 2: reality for me. Well, the one thing that did kind
Speaker 2: of I had to kind of get used to was
Speaker 2: I have been singing backgrounds with Genuine and live in arenas, right,
Speaker 2: and then they would call me out the sing a
Speaker 2: little solo and screams was crazy.
Speaker 5: Those must be my screen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It was, you know, those the Nigga Virginuine screen.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: But when it was my turn, I was for sure,
Speaker 2: you know, I was prepared to thug it out, and
Speaker 2: thug it out. I had to in a van with
Speaker 2: everybody and the crew and the equipment. Exactly I did.
Speaker 2: I did a dirt floor with with two mics, one
Speaker 2: mic for me and one mic from my background singers,
Speaker 2: and it was both on short chords. And I still
Speaker 2: took my shirt off and I laid on that dirt
Speaker 2: floor and my song absolutely, yes, sir, absolutely, my little
Speaker 2: off fin up got on my knees.
Speaker 5: He was a little male fit. Listen them thirty two
Speaker 5: people in that place, felt me absolutely. I'm sure they'll
Speaker 5: talk about it, right And did you say that? I'm
Speaker 5: just like, that's just the lost art. They just getting
Speaker 5: back to the.
Speaker 6: Streets, you know what it be too though. It's a
Speaker 6: lot of ego involved. So to go out there and
Speaker 6: there's only a few people out there, like that's not
Speaker 6: a comfortable feeling for a lot of people, especially you
Speaker 6: don't have that mindset where I got to turn these
Speaker 6: twenty people up, you know what I mean, because how
Speaker 6: artists are presented again kind of like what you was mentioning,
Speaker 6: they presented to be stars already.
Speaker 7: When that's not it's not at all.
Speaker 5: It's not the case.
Speaker 6: Even like with the artists we got right, Like the
Speaker 6: first four dudes that promova I'm telling you about literally
Speaker 6: followed Game on tour across the country.
Speaker 7: In that promovp. It's fifteen of us in that advanced
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying opening up for for Game
Speaker 7: during his tours l A X tour.
Speaker 2: I made it under that I did get it almost
Speaker 2: can oh. Yeah, yeah, I said, I got I gotta put.
Speaker 7: You on one, that's all. I got one.
Speaker 5: I got one with you and kid and yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: on the way.
Speaker 6: But like so the new artists that come after that,
Speaker 6: they coming into an established situation.
Speaker 7: So now they can hope right in on the tour bus,
Speaker 7: so they don't know the struggle that.
Speaker 8: We went through taking I have that conversation all the time, bro,
Speaker 8: because like I am a and for anybody who's watched
Speaker 8: the podcast, I'll say this, like I'm.
Speaker 2: A reminder of that to people. I'm like, hey, nigga,
Speaker 2: I slept on the floor. Yeah, like yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: you know they ain't gonta sleep on the floor no more.
Speaker 8: But I did say and and there's and there's something
Speaker 8: to to buildings, building up tough skin, to dealing with
Speaker 8: this ship and understanding that Amen, it's gonna get ugly
Speaker 8: sometime in here.
Speaker 5: What are you going to do? Yeah, real talk when
Speaker 5: you're faced with that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my thing is I'm gonna remind you just so
Speaker 6: you understand, and I want you to be grateful for
Speaker 6: the position that you're in.
Speaker 8: You say grateful one time, because that is not a thing, right,
Speaker 8: and especially not a music business.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: People being grateful they feel old, right, Like nobody owes
Speaker 5: you anything.
Speaker 7: That's real talk.
Speaker 5: Going back, I chose to sleep on that floor. Yep.
Speaker 5: I could have stayed my ass in the bay.
Speaker 8: I could have did whatever hustling I was doing back
Speaker 8: home in my comfortable bed. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 8: I'm going out here to make a life for myself.
Speaker 5: So in doing that. There's no furniture in that room exactly,
Speaker 5: but that.
Speaker 2: Room is connected into a house that has a studio
Speaker 2: that at any point of the night I could walk
Speaker 2: my black ass over there and start writing these songs,
Speaker 2: real talk so that I can try to change my life.
Speaker 5: And I am grateful it built that.
Speaker 7: It built so much character, bro you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like I remember we had all start weekend, like we
Speaker 7: all drove down.
Speaker 8: But that's definitely a time we realized you not that
Speaker 8: you're poor, brose so many rich niggas at All Star, man.
Speaker 7: We had that the Flamingo. Ten niggas in one room.
Speaker 5: Sleep Vegas All Star Weekend. Yes, when niggas had a
Speaker 5: side show.
Speaker 7: That year, it was oh man, y'all was we ten
Speaker 7: deep in one room? Yeah, so asleep sitting up in
Speaker 7: the chairs. Somebody's sleeping the bathtub. Like, get in where
Speaker 7: you fit in out there working? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: so a lot of artists don't understand that and haven't
Speaker 7: been through that, and you can kind of see it
Speaker 7: sometimes in their hunger level, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: But I'm reminders though that they're healthy.
Speaker 8: I think the thing that I've seen from the outside,
Speaker 8: and you can speak on this because it's your company.
Speaker 5: I feel like.
Speaker 8: Everybody that I know of that I've seen, they gotta
Speaker 8: earn their ship at tde absolutely, like even when y'all
Speaker 8: do your initial deals, it's like, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 8: give you the opportunity. We're gonna give you a deal,
Speaker 8: We're gonna put some money in your pocket. But this
Speaker 8: is not you're a star today, right, You're not. You're
Speaker 8: not Schoolboy Q today, You're not Jay Rock today, You're
Speaker 8: not Kendrick Abso you.
Speaker 5: Are brand new, right, real talk. So we're gonna we're
Speaker 5: gonna help you get your buzz going.
Speaker 7: Mm.
Speaker 5: Then we're gonna figure out where we're gonna take it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because that's the other thing and it you know,
Speaker 8: and if I'm getting too deep into how y'all do
Speaker 8: y'all business, but.
Speaker 7: No, you good.
Speaker 8: How y'all license deals? More so than it is y'all
Speaker 8: doing labeled partnerships or you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 8: y'all are fully owners of TDE. There is no code
Speaker 8: this with this company that company.
Speaker 7: Nah, it's uh, it's just you know, it's just real partnerships. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Like the cis a deal.
Speaker 7: The first one we did with r c A. It
Speaker 7: was a licensing deal. I think it was like at
Speaker 7: the time, was kind of one of its kind, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It was kind of the transition when people started breaking
Speaker 6: away from giving away everything from Jack exactly.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 7: So you know, we just try to try to push
Speaker 7: the envelope, you know what I mean, try to.
Speaker 6: Try to break new ground, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because like again, the rules of this business are so
Speaker 6: old and we're still living by these same old standards,
Speaker 6: like we're not even in that time period no more.
Speaker 6: So the deals need to be updated and switched around.
Speaker 6: So that's what we try to We try to push
Speaker 6: the envelope on that.
Speaker 2: So when you go from you did the Warner deal,
Speaker 2: now you do the Interscope deal. Now you got the
Speaker 2: shout out from doctor dre.
Speaker 7: He he uh.
Speaker 5: He shuts down my feature text.
Speaker 2: Him when we live like that, When is the moment
Speaker 2: where you guys, as as it labeled as guys who've
Speaker 2: been trying to crack the code, because now you know,
Speaker 2: the deals are one thing.
Speaker 5: Getting a deal done is one thing. But actually.
Speaker 2: Feeling like you're headed towards somewhere really successful and even
Speaker 2: seeing some fruits of that labor is something completely different
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 5: When is that turn for you guys? For me?
Speaker 7: That happened before all of that.
Speaker 6: Actually this happened in twenty ten when we put out
Speaker 6: the Kendrick Lamar LP no EP I'm sorry. So one
Speaker 6: of the songs we did on there a song called Faith.
Speaker 6: I'm on it with Kendrick and BJ.
Speaker 5: You're on yeah, tell them, tell them what you're doing
Speaker 5: on it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, saying bars yeah, bars, yeah, yeah, talking a little
Speaker 7: bit get.
Speaker 5: Us Yeah yeah. They'd be on Twitter. Ye he doesn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah he has on Twitter.
Speaker 3: That's a difference.
Speaker 7: That's funny.
Speaker 6: But now we was doing so that's out and we're
Speaker 6: doing an in store in Carson at a app Soul's
Speaker 6: Grandfather record shop.
Speaker 7: So you know a crowd of people coming.
Speaker 6: This young lady came up to Kendrick and I'm standing
Speaker 6: right there and she was like, Yo, this song stopped
Speaker 6: me from I mean, harming myself. And at that moment,
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, this is bigger than just recording records.
Speaker 6: We're actually affecting people's lives. So I figure we had
Speaker 6: a bigger purpose at that point, and if it infects
Speaker 6: enough people then it'll pay off in other ways as well.
Speaker 7: But that's the goal now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: We want to do something that helps somebody.
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, you guys have established
Speaker 8: yourself at this point as a powerhouse rap label, right,
Speaker 8: even if that's not the you know, the intention, it's
Speaker 8: just what happens.
Speaker 5: It's the music business.
Speaker 8: Everything is about boxes that nobody wants to be in,
Speaker 8: of course, but now you're in that box, your.
Speaker 5: West Coast, gainst the rap, all those things, right, just.
Speaker 3: This is what they do.
Speaker 5: Yep. Then y'all hit a full a full turn.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they said, you know what, We're gonna sign an
Speaker 8: R and B artist that's not from the coast.
Speaker 5: And it's a woman. Yeah, what's the what's the thought
Speaker 5: process into that?
Speaker 7: That's exactly what the thought process was for me personally.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking at what we're doing so we established,
Speaker 6: we got Jay Rock, we got Kendrick Uh, Schoolboy Q
Speaker 6: popping on the radio. Now we got apps, so that's
Speaker 6: everybody's favorite rappers, favorite rapper, Jay Rock, got his joint out.
Speaker 7: We established. Now we're a hip hop rap label.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, cracking.
Speaker 6: So my mindset was like, all right, I want to
Speaker 6: branch out and see if we can become a dominant
Speaker 6: music label.
Speaker 7: And that was my mindset moving with Scissor.
Speaker 8: Because that's not something that is normal either though, right Records,
Speaker 8: Like you said, becoming a music label, Yeah, most hip
Speaker 8: hop labels, in my opinion, they don't really know how
Speaker 8: to make that transition, right because him and I talk
Speaker 8: about this all the time that the radio department is different.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not.
Speaker 8: You're not servicing the same DJs. Truth, they it's a
Speaker 8: whole another game.
Speaker 7: See.
Speaker 6: But one of the advantages, right, What attracted me to
Speaker 6: her was she approached her songs as an MC, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, as opposed to a traditional R
Speaker 6: and B singer or just a singer in general. Like
Speaker 6: she approached it as an MC. Like I'm listening to
Speaker 6: the words and the metaphors and the stuff She's saying,
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I know what this is. I'm familiar
Speaker 6: with this because, like I said, we got four hard hitters,
Speaker 6: So it's just a matter of transition, transitioning that in to.
Speaker 7: What we're doing.
Speaker 6: Where do you find this? How do you think, bro?
Speaker 6: It was all accident. Actually, Kendrick had a show in Brooklyn,
Speaker 6: and I remember this because this was exactly a year
Speaker 6: four Good Kid Mass City dropped, so it was a
Speaker 6: year to the day, October twenty second, twenty eleven. So
Speaker 6: he's doing the show and she's helping out one of
Speaker 6: her friends be on the merch booth, so you know,
Speaker 6: I'm trying to get some merch. They ain't have my size.
Speaker 6: They had all little nigga sizes, So you know, we
Speaker 6: exchanged in for whatever. My guy exchanged info with her
Speaker 6: and she was gonna meet us the next day and
Speaker 6: bring sizes or whatever. So she put up the next
Speaker 6: day with one of her friends and were meeting in
Speaker 6: the hotel lobby. So we's just sitting there, we chopping
Speaker 6: it up, and her friend has these these earphones in
Speaker 6: and she's just kind of like in her own zone,
Speaker 6: just bobbing her head. So I'm getting distracted. When I'm talking, like, yo,
Speaker 6: what are you listening to? And she was like this
Speaker 6: her you ain't know she's saying, like what, so let
Speaker 6: me hear it. So I listened like it was crazy,
Speaker 6: Like her voice caught me right off top. So I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 6: that's crazy. She said she wasn't gonna say nothing. But
Speaker 6: I don't know if that was the setup or what
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask you, like,
Speaker 6: so you.
Speaker 2: Gotta vibe vie with the T shirts and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: try to act like I'm not with you listening to.
Speaker 7: You, right, But apparently this was one of the first
Speaker 7: real songs that.
Speaker 6: She actually recorded, So she had did some stuff before,
Speaker 6: she would mess around on hooks with friends or whatever,
Speaker 6: but like that's her first real record, Like I think.
Speaker 7: This was the second one she did. So from there
Speaker 7: we we kept in contact and you know, she'd send
Speaker 7: me stuff she was working on, and we talked back
Speaker 7: and forth, you know, give advice and this and that.
Speaker 6: So that went on for two years years before I
Speaker 6: mean we actually decided we're going to work together.
Speaker 5: So has she been even shopping stuff to let anything?
Speaker 6: No, No, it was more so just around New York
Speaker 6: around the cool kids in New York at the time,
Speaker 6: and because literally that song I heard was a part
Speaker 6: of her first EP, so that was the first thing
Speaker 6: that she ever put out to the public.
Speaker 7: So I was already kind of on board at that point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean as far as just on some consulting
Speaker 5: with her, helping her exactly.
Speaker 6: So I was in New York one time we met
Speaker 6: up and her manager had just quit. I said she
Speaker 6: didn't want to work with her no more.
Speaker 7: I was fumbled with, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking. She's like,
Speaker 7: you know what you should just is me?
Speaker 5: You know what, You're right, Let's do it because you're
Speaker 5: already believe in it.
Speaker 7: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 6: See, but I didn't want to like push or you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, because she had her things she
Speaker 6: was trying to do, so I'm just respectful of that.
Speaker 6: And when you know, she needed advice or whatever, then
Speaker 6: I lean in. But once that opened up, I was like,
Speaker 6: all right, bat, let's go.
Speaker 5: The moment that made it?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, pushed through, like okay, absolutely, how is the
Speaker 8: conversation with top though, or does he already know about her?
Speaker 7: Nah?
Speaker 6: Now he didn't know about her. It was actually strategic
Speaker 6: about it. I know this dude so well.
Speaker 7: So I went around the camp. First, they had her music, so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you put the hair, you put the headphones up, right,
Speaker 5: who would you listen to?
Speaker 7: So I let Dave hear it first. Dave liked it.
Speaker 5: Because Daved the first person that told me about Sissy.
Speaker 7: Oh really, yeah, that's crazy. So I let him hear
Speaker 7: it first.
Speaker 5: He liked it.
Speaker 7: I let Moosa hear it. Musa liked it. Then I
Speaker 7: went the top. No, I let Kendrick hear it too,
Speaker 7: so everybody loved the music. And then I hit top.
Speaker 6: I'm like, YO, got this new artist I think we
Speaker 6: should mess with. He was like, yeah, anybody heard it yet? Yeah,
Speaker 6: Dave heard it, Musa heard it, Kendrick heard It's like
Speaker 6: all dope. Like, man, you've seen her perform live. Yet
Speaker 6: she got to showing Brooklyn coming up and fly out
Speaker 6: there with Dave. I was ready, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It was like all right, bet, and he heard the
Speaker 6: music and he liked it. So then once we flew
Speaker 6: out there, we surprised her. She didn't know he was coming.
Speaker 6: She did her set or whatever, and it was locked
Speaker 6: in from there. I was like, what twelve years ago.
Speaker 7: It was a learning curve though, bro, because again I'm
Speaker 7: coming working with four dudes. So now it's this woman
Speaker 7: way different. Oh my god. I always tell a story
Speaker 7: with the fellas.
Speaker 6: I can say, Yo, we got an interview in ten minutes,
Speaker 6: get up and wipe their eyes.
Speaker 7: Hot right on camera.
Speaker 5: It's called bro.
Speaker 7: I tried that with her. Hell, we gotta do this
Speaker 7: little MTV thing, like thirty minutes. She lost her whole head.
Speaker 7: It was insane.
Speaker 5: Forty eight to twenty four hour press.
Speaker 2: Now they started at five six in the morning morning.
Speaker 2: It's insane for the day of press that don't start
Speaker 2: too new.
Speaker 7: Right, real talk. So it's like I'm learning like all
Speaker 7: of this stuff on the fly now, making all type
Speaker 7: of mistakes.
Speaker 6: Oh man, you gotta hurry up before a show to
Speaker 6: go by tampons, and.
Speaker 7: That's a whole different thing. I'm talking to hair people now,
Speaker 7: I'm talking to people about skincare.
Speaker 5: You know what bundles are now, Bro, we went out
Speaker 5: of here somewhere.
Speaker 7: My god. Yeah, they make money to what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they want what, Yeah, they want it, And
Speaker 2: it's a different and it's a different expense. It is
Speaker 2: super because dudes, you know again, jeans, T shirt and
Speaker 2: we're good Jay's and a hat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're really feeling good about yourself, thought
Speaker 2: chain on you got you gotta take you out, fed
Speaker 2: up a few a woman that that that fit.
Speaker 5: Bro now everything everything so again.
Speaker 6: So imagine like my mind is just expanding now because
Speaker 6: all of these new things that I got to learn
Speaker 6: in real time.
Speaker 5: Did you ever feel like I'm a fish out of water?
Speaker 8: And I don't know, like like almost am I holding
Speaker 8: her back from from a management standpoint right? Because you
Speaker 8: know I talk about it when I first started managing Tank. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I just asked a lot of questions. I asked a
Speaker 8: whole bunch of questions. I was never the guy to
Speaker 8: act like I just knew something. He'll say that, he'd
Speaker 8: be like, Jay, It'll be like I'm gonna call you
Speaker 8: right back to because I'm gonna go. I just I
Speaker 8: never wanted to be the nigga that was fron Bro.
Speaker 8: I just didn't want to be him. I'm the smartest
Speaker 8: guy in the room all the time.
Speaker 5: Hey man, I don't know this. Hey can you help me?
Speaker 2: But you coming from this this other world into a
Speaker 2: completely different world and with a woman, did you ever feel.
Speaker 5: Like shit, am I in the way of where this
Speaker 5: thing is going? Because I don't know some of this shit?
Speaker 7: Nah, I ain't never felt that way because I know
Speaker 7: what the goal was. The goal was to get her
Speaker 7: to the people.
Speaker 6: Okay, If I can get her to the people, however
Speaker 6: that may be, then I think we're gonna be good.
Speaker 6: So that was always my mindset, even when I didn't
Speaker 6: know something or whatever. Like, I give her a lot
Speaker 6: of credit because she knew a lot of different things
Speaker 6: as far as market and who the market too with
Speaker 6: outlets that she understood absolutely thousand. So with that plus
Speaker 6: I mean my experience already, like I never felt like
Speaker 6: I was a fish out of water.
Speaker 7: Like, yo, we just got to get these people to
Speaker 7: hear you once they hear you with good money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so absolutely my daughter.
Speaker 8: Now, y'all, I want to say that Sizza is the
Speaker 8: only artist that I've ever had to like make that
Speaker 8: phone call for for tickets.
Speaker 5: I can always find out I figure this out.
Speaker 8: Like one of my guys, who was, you know, a
Speaker 8: close guy for me, man, that really be you know,
Speaker 8: making sure I'm straight with my train, my son, just
Speaker 8: some other stuff for me with with with the basketball
Speaker 8: side of it called.
Speaker 5: Me and.
Speaker 8: Y'all ticket was impossible. I possible, Like the only way
Speaker 8: to get a Sissor ticket was to call y'all.
Speaker 5: And I just didn't want to call Tip. I ain't
Speaker 5: gonna lie because not about that. You know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying like this my friend, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: I don't want to be I want to be that
Speaker 8: guy because I know how that is sometimes when guys
Speaker 8: got to call me about ship like that and it's like, fuck,
Speaker 8: this is like super sold out show right, super sold.
Speaker 2: In the market that you don't ask for tickets. It
Speaker 2: was in Atlanta. As a ticket in Atlanta, my nigga
Speaker 2: will get you free bundles, so it will get you
Speaker 2: free bundles, bro straight up.
Speaker 5: And my guy called me and I was like, funk,
Speaker 5: I can't tell him no. Mark is my guy.
Speaker 8: I can't tell him no. Call Top Top, I need you,
Speaker 8: and he was, and it was you know, I was.
Speaker 8: He made it easy because you know that's my guys.
Speaker 8: He's like, I got you.
Speaker 5: But then they get to the concert and the people
Speaker 5: it will cause acting like the name ain't there. So
Speaker 5: what do I gotta do? Top again? Pay grade man.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm calling it's worth four fived man.
Speaker 2: That was as him about we will call, like the asshole.
Speaker 5: Who's having will call for you because we lost we
Speaker 5: don't know what. And you know.
Speaker 8: He took care of before me. He was like, that's good,
Speaker 8: it's good. I got you any make the phone call
Speaker 8: and got to take care for you. But it was
Speaker 8: just like, that's why I hate having to call people
Speaker 8: and ask for that type of ship, because I don't
Speaker 8: want to be calling top calling punch about no damn tickets,
Speaker 8: damn show six.
Speaker 5: It was my daughter. I had to she was losing
Speaker 5: her mind, that's right. And I needed to be dead
Speaker 5: of the year.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I had to be.
Speaker 2: I put in my car and then I was talking
Speaker 2: to cars on the phone. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: just you know, just trying to figure out the sensor thing.
Speaker 2: He said, well, have you talked to our good friend?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I talked to him, you know, but if you want
Speaker 1: to talk to him too, you want to reinforce it right.
Speaker 2: Now, what it was said, get top on the phone, right,
Speaker 2: that's funny. It was a great line because that's really
Speaker 2: a thing. Get top on the phone is a thing
Speaker 2: you might be on TD next.
Speaker 5: Look at you, man. They might be looking at you.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm just checking the temperature right now. T tank man,
Speaker 3: I do so. He not looking, but hopefully I do
Speaker 3: something right now. Catch his eye.
Speaker 1: He ain't looking.
Speaker 5: I know you hear you.
Speaker 7: I know he hear me.
Speaker 2: What you got for my brother? As you ventured off
Speaker 2: into this R and B world twenty thousand a night.
Speaker 2: We know you know a little something about it, and
Speaker 2: the people are interested.
Speaker 5: What they want to know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've gone down the rabbit hole
Speaker 2: to understand this thing that you are part of in
Speaker 2: such a major way.
Speaker 5: If you do, they're asking for you.
Speaker 2: Fu.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your top five, h t far.
Speaker 7: Your top five?
Speaker 1: They want o be singers? What if they want all
Speaker 1: and be song?
Speaker 5: We got to know before you go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go big God be folly for you. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're fun, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 5: We want to know what y'all was listening to in
Speaker 5: that promo Van y'all took Man the punch R and
Speaker 5: B punch. Yeah, your top five R.
Speaker 7: And B singers, Man, top five, no order, right, just for.
Speaker 5: What you feeling? All right?
Speaker 7: You gotta go with h I gotta go Marvin m hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great place to start. I gotta go.
Speaker 6: Uh that nigga, Rob Kelly, Yeah, yeah, we were scared
Speaker 6: of Ye, we're scared of I gotta go with the
Speaker 6: King of R and B Wobbi Browne.
Speaker 5: I see what type of time? Yeah, I see what
Speaker 5: type of time.
Speaker 7: Get a lot of hate, but I gotta go keep sweat.
Speaker 5: We're not letting.
Speaker 7: I said this on Twitter one time.
Speaker 5: I wish they would. Yeah, not the sweat.
Speaker 2: Not the nigga that got his masters in his garage
Speaker 2: signistself before signing this to yourself was even a thing real?
Speaker 7: My last one. Man, gotta go kind of moderate see
Speaker 7: that between uh sure and Christopher mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: I'm listening. Chris Raymond, Chris.
Speaker 7: Chris Raymond. Absolutely, I like that. That's your brow brown
Speaker 7: You do fine.
Speaker 5: You have no argument with me? One.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 5: I like the.
Speaker 7: The crack air R and B. That's Bobby and uh
Speaker 7: Kee sweating Teddy Riley.
Speaker 5: Believe it he was selling dope.
Speaker 3: I love what was it?
Speaker 5: What's the movie? Uh Jackson Jackson? Yeah, that's real. Lauren
Speaker 5: was rm B when he had the skis up there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I know she was excuse right, I'm seeing b man ship.
Speaker 7: You see.
Speaker 2: Her anyway, And he let her answer the phone. Man,
Speaker 2: he let her into the phone when she called. And
Speaker 2: his homie, hey man, he was in love, wasn't though
Speaker 2: he was. He's listening r v ye put you in
Speaker 2: the place. I can't in front, put you in the place.
Speaker 2: And he had that fine thing too that he canceled.
Speaker 5: On it. He was wilding, bro, he was wilding, was
Speaker 5: wild another one?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The top five R and B songs, Bro, that's impossible.
Speaker 5: Come on, whatever possible.
Speaker 7: It's possible R and B songs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what songs? You know where I got
Speaker 5: songs go? This is your world?
Speaker 7: All right? Well love is joined together by the temptations.
Speaker 5: Don't go temptations?
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, all right, y'all know that's all.
Speaker 5: He's a player for real. I expect that. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I ain't said it be easier to take the wet
Speaker 6: from water or to drive from saying if anybody stop
Speaker 6: up from holding hands, And you said that, I said, yeah, see,
Speaker 6: I like metaphors about how you take the wet from water.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's that's that's one of them. I gotta go.
Speaker 7: What's going on? Why I gotta go and make it
Speaker 7: last fever?
Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite songs of all times. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Gotta go with uh Smoky and Quiet Storm Lenny Williams
Speaker 7: because I love you?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, is that fine? That's fine? You got
Speaker 5: through it. Man.
Speaker 8: I just had this conversation with my son, and I said,
Speaker 8: what are you gonna play for? When you need to
Speaker 8: let the song speak to her? To me, that is
Speaker 8: the conversation we gotta have with the youth.
Speaker 5: Like I get out. It's funny games.
Speaker 8: I like the songs y'all be playing, y'all jump around
Speaker 8: to y'all doing the dances too. But you can't always
Speaker 8: speak for yourself, none of us can, even you got
Speaker 8: three lyricists in here.
Speaker 5: We've all written songs. Sometimes though, you need to push
Speaker 5: play because I love you, of course, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I watched TV till the TV went off,
Speaker 5: going nowhere fast. We've reached the climax, what you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? But we're undone. Yeah, yeah, that's how
Speaker 5: you gotta to speak for you talk to you.
Speaker 7: Who's saying that type of stuff now though? That's what
Speaker 7: we're talking.
Speaker 8: About He actually mentioned sizz, which was which was wild
Speaker 8: to me. Right, this is a young teenage young man
Speaker 8: and what ever take his song for her is snooz.
Speaker 8: He loves snoozs He loves snows like broll.
Speaker 5: It's so funny. He loves snooze. And then what's the
Speaker 5: other song? Get mad at me? Man? But my daughter,
Speaker 5: my daughter. My daughter walked by his room and was like, dad,
Speaker 5: he listening to twin What have you been?
Speaker 8: That also kind of was a glaring thing for me
Speaker 8: to say. Damn, where the young fellas? That's giving him?
Speaker 7: Who's Keith sweat?
Speaker 5: Break your piano back out? Let's go ahead.
Speaker 3: I ain't saying no I ain't saying no names. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 5: I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 1: What you need don't say she I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 8: So we've come to that segment. Okay, signed with you know,
Speaker 8: very important part of the show. We tell us a
Speaker 8: story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 5: The only rule to the game you don't say no names.
Speaker 7: Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So as soon as I explained that, she'll start popping
Speaker 2: in here like yeah, I can't tell that, but yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's the only rule.
Speaker 5: You know, you could say, you know where you was
Speaker 5: ad Always in Miami, always in London. I mean, because
Speaker 5: we know you, you've been everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, RB taking place, Yeah, I like that taking place.
Speaker 2: Tell us tell us this story. Man, he gotta be
Speaker 2: R and B related. No no, no, no, no, all right,
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 6: It's gonna sound crazy with no names. There's a bunch
Speaker 6: of people involved. Let y'allull know their names.
Speaker 5: I'm sure.
Speaker 7: All right, So back, So themy just did this song right,
Speaker 7: pissed the gang of people off.
Speaker 6: Everybody was mad at it. So we uh when the
Speaker 6: song came out, he was overseas. Then he came back
Speaker 6: to the States. First place we stopped in was New
Speaker 6: York's and the first thing we do is say, let's
Speaker 6: go to the club because we wanted to check the temperature.
Speaker 5: See what everybody was on.
Speaker 7: LA stuff.
Speaker 3: Got down.
Speaker 6: So we get to the club. So one of the
Speaker 6: homies approached us and talking about this particular record. So
Speaker 6: we're going back and forth. Oh, it's not personal, it's
Speaker 6: just this this and that, it's cool whatever, whatever. It's
Speaker 6: like if we're playing basketball, I'm gonna try to beat you.
Speaker 6: You're trying to beat me. And we were good after, like, yeah.
Speaker 7: Okay, cool a friendly, friendly fade if you will. Another
Speaker 7: one of the homies walk up you a little drunk, said, yeah, y'all, niggas,
Speaker 7: y'all need to let's go back and forth and keep
Speaker 7: it on.
Speaker 5: Wax or whatever or whatever whatever.
Speaker 7: So the two dudes who.
Speaker 6: Approached, they get into a little back and forth, little
Speaker 6: argument with each other.
Speaker 5: With each other, now, okay, because.
Speaker 7: We didn't we didn't know is they ain't gotten an
Speaker 7: argument before we got there, so they was kind of
Speaker 7: continuing it.
Speaker 6: So okay, things settled and we go to the vi P.
Speaker 6: So in this VIP section, it's literally the front roll
Speaker 6: of the Grammys in this one section, and it's four
Speaker 6: of us were in there, like we in there fans
Speaker 6: almost like yo.
Speaker 7: That's so the only that got into it with the
Speaker 7: other one. He's sitting two steps down from me on
Speaker 7: the on the couch, so it's somebody right here. I'm
Speaker 7: right here the rest of us. And then so the
Speaker 7: nig came back to him, the ones who got an
Speaker 7: altercation earlier. He's like yeah, and if you ever say
Speaker 7: what you said to me earlier than God.
Speaker 6: And he grabbed a bottle from the table because it
Speaker 6: got all of the alcohol choice and he said, what
Speaker 6: you're gonna do? Hit me on my head of the bottle.
Speaker 6: He's like, nah, I'm gonna break it on the table
Speaker 6: and cut your throat. So it's like a movie, right, Like, oh,
Speaker 6: so it's right.
Speaker 7: So the nigga standing on the ground reached up and
Speaker 7: tried to grab dude by the neck.
Speaker 6: So dude reached around and fired on him and they
Speaker 6: both fell on the table, knocking all the drinks over.
Speaker 6: So all these celebrities just in this one spot, it's
Speaker 6: a scuffle. Now huge scuffle, so it just sounds weird
Speaker 6: with no names.
Speaker 7: Other nigga came who was best friends with one of
Speaker 7: the super celebrities. I was over there. He came and
Speaker 7: start beating up one of the nigga's house on the ground.
Speaker 7: So it's kind of clearing up, and he grabbed a
Speaker 7: nigga put him close and seeing who it was, and
Speaker 7: this dude was signed to his his homie, but he
Speaker 7: couldn't see what he can see.
Speaker 6: He have his glasses home, so he mopped and looked
Speaker 6: like he felt so bad after the whole.
Speaker 5: Thing he was signed to.
Speaker 6: He was signed to this dude who was going at
Speaker 6: him and his partner. His partner came and jumped in
Speaker 6: because he thought he was.
Speaker 7: They was going at his man. Yeah, so whole scuffle breakdown.
Speaker 7: They get them off the club. A table was back
Speaker 7: set up in like less than sixty seconds, like it
Speaker 7: never happened, Like it never happened. Up with the ratio
Speaker 7: from celebrity the regular person was like seventy thirty maybe,
Speaker 7: so every section was like full of celebrities, I mean
Speaker 7: music people, movie people, whatever. But it's like it's like
Speaker 7: it never existed.
Speaker 5: But they were prepared for that. Oh man, that happened
Speaker 5: in there before.
Speaker 7: That was my That was my favorite, Like night music,
Speaker 7: little dust.
Speaker 2: Up, little dust up, Right, he's the party going. That's
Speaker 2: what a song can do, right, It created a little
Speaker 2: song created, he.
Speaker 5: Created a little dust up.
Speaker 7: Absolutely can't well, apparently they ain't want no problem with y'all.
Speaker 7: Oh no, it was good money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me focus back on I was looking
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: I said it earlier.
Speaker 7: What's funny is the dude the big dudos in the thing.
Speaker 7: So this was over. He looked at me at point
Speaker 7: he was like, look, he like every minute of.
Speaker 5: I've seen some of this. We came here to shake
Speaker 5: the temperature, right, this is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that was fun that well, my brother Punch,
Speaker 2: we appreciate you man, doing great things. Bro, appreciate that
Speaker 2: we are We are fans, supporters, yeah, brothers at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 5: We always here for whatever, man, but please man, keep
Speaker 5: that ship going.
Speaker 7: Absolutely. Also, I want to congratulate y'all. I love what
Speaker 7: y'all doing.
Speaker 6: Like when we ran into you at the spot, like
Speaker 6: y'all talk about the music. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: that's something that's that's really needed. There's a lot of
Speaker 6: BS that goes on that people cover WHI y'all deal
Speaker 6: with the actual musicality of it, and that's like, I mean,
Speaker 6: that's my favorite thing.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I applause off what y'all do. Thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, the information is what's gonna last ultimately absolutely,
Speaker 2: and that's gonna you know, usher in the next generation
Speaker 2: of whatever it is.
Speaker 5: They can't do it without the.
Speaker 2: Information, absolutely, So that's what we're here for, man, So
Speaker 2: we appreciate you doing the what you're doing well. Sir,
Speaker 2: thank you lady, and jim My Money is Tank. I'm
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