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Speaker 1: for us, we have had so much fun doing Hollywood Handbook,

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Speaker 1: called smartness smartness, because we're we've been smart for a while,

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Speaker 2: And it's different amounts of smartness. Oh my god, you're like,

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Speaker 1: Is it the highest level of smartness all the time? No,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's going to be a very small amount of

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's called Gareth frickin river BCP and smartness.

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Speaker 1: And often it is. And and by the way, that

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm loving on smartness. Now that we lead

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Speaker 3: I believe he said the smartness player to never win

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Speaker 1: Of the On what I don't know what you're talking about, we're.

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Speaker 2: And on Smartness, we do a thing. We're only one

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Speaker 1: So we're doing our own thing. It's unique, it's funky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so Rob is here, Rob here.

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Speaker 3: What if what if there were three hosts of smartness?

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Speaker 1: Like? Could I? Could I be the third host?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to jump in on smartness, which

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Speaker 1: The book Book and Speaking of the Smartest player to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love guys like that. Who you tell them

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Speaker 1: The tribe and I have spoken.

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Speaker 1: Rob has it and he's and by the way, Rob

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's really just like one big podcast,

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Speaker 1: it's smartness. Man. We're not doing this like weird Fantasyland bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Now? Would be the Democrats party? Did you want to

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Speaker 3: The rules the trader there's three, there's three people or

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Speaker 1: Brave, very brave to say you didn't know was Donal Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and where and where do they? And it's which ones?

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Speaker 2: They're all women except one guy who's from Love Island.

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Speaker 3: He's a snake wrangling.

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Speaker 2: Okay, seems like it could be that could be a

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Speaker 1: The people you get it now, The people themselves are serpents. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Because what do you do with them if you wrangle them?

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Speaker 1: Once it's wrangled, you hold it up. Yeah, you hold

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just like makes like content. He's I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think they call it aura farming.

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Speaker 1: So obviously there's people who haven't seen every show in

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Speaker 1: Lovely, well intentioned book that has been subjected to so

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Speaker 2: Holding up and shaking it. Just someone should call book protections.

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Speaker 1: And then what walk me through it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, no, it's insane. It's they're in a room but

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you you go you knock on the

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Speaker 1: And then they open the door and then you come in.

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Speaker 2: Literally what I just said.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's excited.

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Speaker 2: Just for this episode. Please turn on my mic. You're

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Speaker 1: You're not on one of these reality shows where you

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Speaker 1: So he basically explains something very clearly then you said,

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Speaker 2: It's smartness all over again. Please turn on artist.

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Speaker 1: Is about connecting to each other and communicating, and do

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Speaker 1: we like to get our shit off, tease each other,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a little bit, a little place, a big

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Speaker 2: They think that gives them a permission to be cruel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, but that was is bush league.

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Speaker 2: You're right, let's I'm not Michael.

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Speaker 1: Rappaport, you know what I mean. I'm not your enemy here,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so chaos. You know what I mean. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the other the other contestants that are at the castle.

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Speaker 1: You need water or something. You need water, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: They remain seated, and then you come into the breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, now he's leaving something out the door

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Speaker 1: almost looks like it's part of the wall. No, I

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Speaker 2: They remain seated, and I'm there. I come in to

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they clap for you, though, because you're not dead.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we're talking like Hayes is here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was so nervous for you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta check this thing out.

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Speaker 1: Does that feel good when somebody says I was so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I would Why do you think it

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Speaker 1: I would go, Yeah, I would rather have people feeling confident.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that vibe.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm, oh it's you.

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Speaker 1: I knew you'd be here. I was nervous for him,

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Speaker 1: point at Hayes, taking on him, bullying him. That's what

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Speaker 2: Do. You understand because we've actually like we we.

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Speaker 1: Have a we've been in the fucking trenches brother, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense when you

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of him history here or a

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Speaker 1: little twenty fours. Those are the days, but the number

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Speaker 2: It so the door I walk in, Now we're all there,

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Speaker 2: and what's next? Then they clap for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well nice, one person is not going to be there,

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Speaker 2: One person is not going to be there. Yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: Suspicious, Well not exactly, Rob.

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Speaker 2: How far did you make it on this show, because

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Speaker 1: How many days? How many days were you in the castle?

443
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: And as far as I understand so far, the show

444
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: is three women and one man from Love Island and

445
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: you somehow in the cast of four ended up in

446
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: twentieth place.

447
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: No, that's just the traders. Then there's the other people.

448
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: There's other people are traders, there's the faithful. But I

449
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: need to know. So I just wanted to do some

450
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: math here. So how many days were you actually in

451
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: the castle? How many breakfasts did we see?

452
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: So I went to one breakfast?

453
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: So where we talking two days?

454
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: Hey, it's I mean it's a little bit longer than that.

455
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: So that day was it? But like, so that's your secret.

456
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: You take one breakfast, but he makes it last and

457
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: you keep saving half of it for tomorrow.

458
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: How about how many days were you thinking? Three days? Four?

459
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: He has like four days? Okay, so like four days,

460
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: like a long How long ago was it? Like back

461
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: in June? So seven months? So four days seven months ago?

462
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: How yeah?

463
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: How long we plan on dining out on this?

464
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going to try to see if I

465
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: can get a full year out of it.

466
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I wish you luck.

467
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: You know, it was a long time I played Survivor.

468
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: I got at least a couple new stories.

469
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: Did they know about the book? Who was they? The traders?

470
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: Did you know Donna Kelsey didn't ask me about it,

471
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: which I'm surprised. Frankly, I thought she would be like

472
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: a little bit more interested in what projects I was

473
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 3: working on.

474
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: But it didn't come up about ziploc bags. Huh mm hmm.

475
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: Was she the one who wasn't there? Is that? Why? No?

476
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: She was? She was there?

477
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay? Then who was the one who wasn't there as

478
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: a woman? Right?

479
00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: So the person that wasn't at breakfast when I was there? Yeah,

480
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: it was a guy. It was the guy wasn't the

481
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: breakfast when I was there?

482
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: Okay, then say that, but not the guy from Love Island?

483
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay?

484
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: And I know it was Ian?

485
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: And what and and what does he like to do?

486
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Play backgammon? He likes games like backgammon? Yeah, okay, it

487
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: was Ian.

488
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: He's an incredible backgammon player and and compared the world,

489
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: he's like top two fifty, he's ranked.

490
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: And so the show is you're there and he's not there,

491
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: accounting you're there, but he's not. He's not And that's

492
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: the show.

493
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: That's the show. And then it was like, oh man,

494
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: where's Ian?

495
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

496
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: Traders must have got him?

497
00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: Oh wow, they they add a new trader sometimes sometimes

498
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: they ask a new trader.

499
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 3: They it's called a recruitment.

500
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: You should know that, and that's bullshit, right, they shouldn't

501
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: be allowed to do that. Yeah, and then you don't

502
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: even know who it is. Could be anybody. Well, let's

503
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: just see the whole season. I know this person is

504
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: a faithful. But then they got recruited. Ye might call

505
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: it the freaking Democratic Party because they are recruiting that

506
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: they can't beat them, join them, that's what they say.

507
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah, for you know your face with the

508
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: decision do you want to join? Do you want to

509
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: become a trader or do you want to just die

510
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: and lead? And also it is a TV show that

511
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: you want to be on more mm hmmmm. They say,

512
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to sleep on this. A lot of

513
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: suspense the commercial. Yeah, and who's and who's like your

514
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: guy there?

515
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: M hmm. Do you have a guy that you are controlling?

516
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm not controlling any guys.

517
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: But it's a game.

518
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: You don't get to pick no, okay, mm hmm doesn't

519
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: sound like a game to me, you know what I mean?

520
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Are you shooting? But also like are you shooting at someone?

521
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: When I ask a question? Sorry, you have all these podcasts.

522
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: When I ask a question, if if the answer is no,

523
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: that's fine, that is fine, if you could then tell

524
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: me what the correct answer is instead of just making

525
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: me guess an infinite number of options over and over

526
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: and you just say no until I land on it.

527
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: I think we get out of here a lot sooner anyway.

528
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: Like, but that's not his goal, Like, I think he

529
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: wants to be on the show until the book comes out.

530
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: He was playing on Beyond Traders the whole.

531
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 2: Time, and this is what days the book come out.

532
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: My follow up, this is act Actually, sorry, I changed

533
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: my mind. This is actually my least favorite guest dynamic.

534
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: This is this one.

535
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: Now I hate this shit. Guy walks in here with

536
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: big penis energy, uh huh and BP and he's supposed

537
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: to be the one playing the game, but now suddenly

538
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm playing it guessing game, guess everything in the world,

539
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: and they, by the way, there is no correct answer,

540
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: and I know that I know this game.

541
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: He keeps moving the answer.

542
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: Every single answer is no. I'm getting clucked. I've played

543
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: this before.

544
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting with a lot of guys played these games before.

545
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: M hm, oh, believe me. It's the game's been the

546
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: game master. This is what we get for inviting on.

547
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: It's like, what is this guy known for? Well, he

548
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: plays these games.

549
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: He's not there. The traders got him. Traders got him.

550
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: Traders got him.

551
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: There's no guy, what do you do?

552
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: You're shooting at someone? There's really it's not a shooting show.

553
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: Then what are then? What are the then? What are

554
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: the shields for?

555
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you have a shield, that means the traders

556
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: can't kill you. At night time there's a lot of also,

557
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: like people getting ready for bed.

558
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: Really it's they should film it.

559
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: It's like a bed and breakfast because there's a lot

560
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: of like everybody's going to bed and a lot of

561
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: everybody going to breakfast.

562
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: Shields are only for nighttime.

563
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Talk about the films filming process when you're in the

564
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: bed and do they get a couple of different versions

565
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: going to bed, scared, going to bed, RESTful, nice, comfy,

566
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: cozy easy? How many different takes of put in your

567
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: head on the pillow are you doing for that? A

568
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: lot a lot.

569
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: There was a lot of like, okay, could you sort

570
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: of like like sort of shimmy and try to get

571
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: comfy like he can't like he can't sleepers are going

572
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: to kill you. We did that a lot, a lot.

573
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: And the bed I think is probably could be like

574
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: one hundred years old.

575
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: Mmmmmmmmmmmmm. You're sleeping in the actual castle. No, you're sleeping

576
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Uh, not allowed to say, that's Scotland magic.

577
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Not allowed to say. Mm hmm, you're not sleeping in

578
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: the castle. Let's fucking ruin this guy right now, because

579
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: this is this is probably my least favorite guest dynamic.

580
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: I think we're holding this like sort of like, Oh,

581
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I've got a secret and I'm going to kind of

582
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: tease you with it, and then the whole show is

583
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: just me frustrating you and your audience.

584
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: The answer to every question is no, except the question

585
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: where the answer is no.

586
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: Then that then the answer becomes, oh, I can't tell

587
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you that I can't disclose mm hmmm signing an NDA.

588
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: You know what that stands for? No, don't asshole, right, Joe?

589
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: So what what if I just go to bed all

590
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: the time?

591
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm, Like you go to bed early.

592
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: You said that shields are for when I for when

593
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: I go to bed.

594
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 3: Right, so you might use like that. It's yeah, nobody's

595
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: ever tried that.

596
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Before to bed all the time, and you're like.

597
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna go get

598
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: forty winks.

599
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: I really would be Yeah, I might throw the traders off.

600
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I like that idea.

601
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: Well it's not allowed, Like they're actually not allowed to

602
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: shoot me because I have my shield?

603
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: Did you get a sense it all wrong? That's sometimes

604
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: on the show. Some of the Traders in this current season, Yeah,

605
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: got a little confused during their confessionals over what their

606
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: POV was supposed to be, and they were almost talking

607
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: as if they were also scared of the Traders, that

608
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: maybe like the secret Trader was working against them, even

609
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: though they are the Traders, so they wasn't a secret Trader.

610
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Maybe they were scared of the secret Trader.

611
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's another Now this is another secret I

612
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: think to play the game. What if you don't know

613
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: what you're doing?

614
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: Mmmm?

615
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's actually a very commoners that seems to

616
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 3: be popular.

617
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: What if you forgot?

618
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think anybody ever forgets. I think that

619
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: they either a lot of people just don't know in the.

620
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: First place, they didn't even hear it.

621
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: They never acquire and lose information yeah, but they do

622
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: sometimes go in without it and refuse to get it. Yes,

623
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna vibe and then what wait, what other meals

624
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: are we eating?

625
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: There's a there's like a lunch and then they put

626
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: like some food out for dinner. Often like there's no

627
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: there's no form of all.

628
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: Three breakfast, Ian's not there, right, lunch.

629
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: Z income to lunch?

630
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: No, okay, dinner, Dinner is.

631
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 3: Just like they're gonna put out a bunch of food and.

632
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: Then it's like it's a.

633
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: We're grazing right and we're talking about who we're gonna

634
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: vote out.

635
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: Never tell you what room to go to.

636
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: No, you get to go with whatever room you want.

637
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of room freedom.

638
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: Favorite room, Oh even better, Top three rooms, Top three rooms. Okay,

639
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: the kitchen kitchen is a lot of snacks with food

640
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: I brought up breakfast. He's never moved on.

641
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, second best room. I'll say, there's a billiard room,

642
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: but it's kind of it's a snooker table, So that

643
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: is that still a billiard room If it's a snooker table, Yes,

644
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: is it a snooker room, it's a billiard room.

645
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: Still a billiard room?

646
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

647
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: Is this billiards. So you're asking, is Billiard's only pool

648
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: or does billiards? Is that an umbrella term that encapsulates

649
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: both snooker and pool?

650
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

651
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Did I throw the question back to you, Rob?

652
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe one of the listeners knows. Yeah,

653
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: I think I know one. So he thinks maybe just

654
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: only one of our listeners. Yeah, out of thirty.

655
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: Well, if that one listener could please reach out, he thinks,

656
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: this is the number of listeners that knows the answer

657
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: to his.

658
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Smartness.

659
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: By the way, please email us at Smartness Smarties at

660
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:24,920
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661
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662
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663
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: we're in the business of doing porno. And please reach

664
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: out and tell us what is billiards and help us

665
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: and we'll forward that email to Rob. He can read

666
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: it on his podcast. Not that he's ever well, we

667
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: have him on fucking fifteen times his Buddy's book Everything,

668
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: and he.

669
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: Never brings us breakfast, lunch and dinner.

670
00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: No shit, huh, breakfast, lunch and dinner. Okay, So that's

671
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: the number two room in the house. Did we have

672
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: the number three.

673
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: To the bar?

674
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: I'd say, bar is number three? Bar? Okay bar mm hmm, okay,

675
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: all right, if you want to put that out there.

676
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Guy's got a family, he's out there having drinks at

677
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: the bar with the traders mm hmm.

678
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: And then you go to bed, Yeah, a bunch of times.

679
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

680
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 3: I wish you a bunch of times. That would be nice.

681
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: But you just said that you do it all different

682
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: in every different possible way. H didn't he say that?

683
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: I asked how many times did they have you, like

684
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of go to bed in different styles? And you said, oh,

685
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: they do that a lot. And then and then when

686
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: he said a bunch of times, you were like, the

687
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: fuck is this guy talking about?

688
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: It?

689
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: Almost seems now like you are trying to invent new

690
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: guest dynamics to be our lace favorite.

691
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: And this is an example. I mean, I know you're

692
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: a game strategy guy. You got one listener on your

693
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: side with the like they're the one that knows the familiar.

694
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: I got twenty nine little.

695
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: Guys sharpening their knives friend.

696
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: And they and they each have three knives. Yeah, so

697
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: that's forty knives. Wow.

698
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: M I'm gonna need a lot of shields.

699
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you said no guns.

700
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: No guns.

701
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: Thank god you didn't say can't bring forty knives. So

702
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: you pull back the covers. Yeah, Ian is there. That's

703
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: a part of the game. You look around and you think, like,

704
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: is this part of it? Yeah, it becomes really clear

705
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: that it's not traders did this. M hm. He's not

706
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: there in a sexual way, right, but he's not asleep either,

707
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: but he knows it's not his bed, So like, what

708
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: are you doing here? Yeah? Yeah, at least if it

709
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: were like some kind of a sex thing, you'd be like, okay, well,

710
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: at least I know what this is.

711
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: I know exactly what is being requested of me, and

712
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: I can confidently sort of engage in the conversation, either

713
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: accepting or denying. You know, there's this dynamic now this

714
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: it's like.

715
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: This is my bed, he says, I know. Okay.

716
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: So I'm so far removed from even knowing how to

717
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: engage with it. You know, when I see Ian there

718
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: and he's not asleep, and he doesn't he's not any

719
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: in jammies.

720
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Is he nude? I think so?

721
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus Christ. So this is my new favorite

722
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: guest dynamics when everything becomes sexual for you. Just like

723
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: we said, it wasn't sexual.

724
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: Clearly, he's just in his like this big normal soft clothes,

725
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: not pajamas.

726
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Big honkin socks. Mm hmm.

727
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

728
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: So there's maybe there's been some cases of like mistaken identity.

729
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm in the wrong room.

730
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: See this is maybe this is what they do to you.

731
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: This is what they do. This is the traders.

732
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: What he's doing to me, or what Ian's in your

733
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: bed and you go, I'm in the wrong room. I

734
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: must be because why is he in I was trying

735
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: to think of a funny shirt for Ian to have

736
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: on that says like front.

737
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: Gammon or something that says, what front gammon, Front gammon,

738
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: that's really good. Front gammon is good. Can I pitch

739
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: on our email address while or while we're doing in

740
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: porn dot org if that's available, dot asm huh poorno

741
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: dot asm. You're gonna you're gonna have a what says

742
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a straight porno gasm? I is Ian

743
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: is there and he's got you thinking, now it's not

744
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: even your room. He's gaslighting you.

745
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, wonder now I know where you learned it? It

746
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: was for me and.

747
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh and now suddenly it's breakfast again. I've been.

748
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: This guy was suffered at the hands of gas lighting.

749
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: It's the only thing he knows anymore.

750
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

751
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: That's the environment that you were in. And then you

752
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: go on, how are you supposed to know how to

753
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: behave when you go on a nice podcast like Smartness,

754
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: You didn't get there thirty listeners.

755
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: Getting. Not getting any sleep four days in a row

756
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: last year can actually make you really sick.

757
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Literally drives you insane. I'm talking to a psychopath right now,

758
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: and you cannot be held responsible for anything you say

759
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: or do on the podcast. That four days of no

760
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: sleep is what has created all of these toxic guests dynamics.

761
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to sleep because then somebody's in your

762
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: bed and you don't even know why.

763
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I wasn't that actual mm hmmm.

764
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: I know why it was hard to sleep? Why because

765
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: somebody was in your bed?

766
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

767
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

768
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: So who else?

769
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? What else is going on? Who else was there?

770
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

771
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Who are we putting on blast? I'll tell you was there?

772
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: Who else was where? You know? Who was there? Heyes?

773
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Former guest of our show mister Ronald Funches.

774
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mm hmm, ron there some housewives?

775
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: Who else, Kristen Kish Who are we putting on blast?

776
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: We need some kind of big sound bite. We need

777
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: something out of the show. We got nothing. We got

778
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: no fucking clips. You have given us nothing so far.

779
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: We have nothing, nothing for social media. We need you

780
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: dragging someone's ass. I need you to say something extremely

781
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: controversial and damaging about one of the other people in

782
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: the Trader's house.

783
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: Hmmm you know Stephen Kaletti. Yeah, guess mm hmm. He

784
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: also was in my bed.

785
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

786
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: And he wasn't supposed to be there. Oh no, this

787
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: place is.

788
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: And are they like, are we the Sardini's? Are we like?

789
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: Are we stacked? Are they are we like he's jumping

790
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: on the bed? Are stacking pancakes?

791
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: Or are we sardined out?

792
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

793
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Sardine sardine. Yeah. You think when they put Stephen Colletti

794
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: on screen and they put one Tree Hill as his credit,

795
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: do you think that was a little bit of a stretch?

796
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: Hm hmm.

797
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Are we thinking maybe Stephen Colletti's good at the beach?

798
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: I think you get you must get to say what

799
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: they put on the bottom of the screen.

800
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Would you say, must have picked that this podcast probably

801
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: Jesus God smart smartness guests, Rob the smartness guest.

802
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Then I'm associated with this guy in

803
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: four days four days out on his ass up and

804
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: down Main Street?

805
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: Is happy meal? Ask kicked.

806
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: By three women in a love Island?

807
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: Guy? Can I ask a question?

808
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: So?

809
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: I haven't seen every show in the freaking world, but

810
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: I did see Ron Funcheless is putting up it's the show, right,

811
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: and he's in it, but he's green screened in it.

812
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Did you see this? Yeah?

813
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had made his own his own edit.

814
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: But isn't he is he? Is it him green screening

815
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 2: himself over himself saying it again?

816
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: We can do that?

817
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Hmm.

818
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I got an idea for this episode before it

819
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: gets released then and then he can just I'm gonna

820
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: get my ship off one way or another. I'll tell

821
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: you what.

822
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say my piece. Actually, I'm gonna say a

823
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: whole damn pizza.

824
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: So is that allowed you?

825
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: I think he just did.

826
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: I think he just does it. Brother.

827
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: That's how he That's how he got gets to where

828
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: he is.

829
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: He just does stuff. Screen screens, screen screen yourself into

830
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: the show.

831
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: You didn't get it, you didn't go home twentieth put

832
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: myself back.

833
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, screen screen yourself. You just eat breakfast? Can you

834
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: do you have a screen screen you equipment? But I

835
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: have like uh TikTok.

836
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: I feel like he could just like put my dog

837
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: just like floating.

838
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: You're pointing at yourself.

839
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a mistake Ron's being is very obvious

840
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: because he's like saying consequential things when he does it,

841
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: when he puts himself in there. What you could do

842
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: is you're just there, your next comes in, your eavesdropping

843
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: or something, just you screen screen yourself just listening outside

844
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: the door, or you know, just like reaching in and

845
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: stealing a little bite of you know, whatever they're cooking

846
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, salmon. Yeah, I like that.

847
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: I think that would be a good cutaway of me

848
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: just like acting like I'm like next door. Like Rob

849
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: heard that, he's listening.

850
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: I must have heard them. Now now he knows who

851
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: the trader. Now he knows, you know, But then he's

852
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: not m m, he's not in some other parts of

853
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the episode.

854
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: So do they have you like copping cuping your ear

855
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: against different stuff? It's like the different versions of that.

856
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: You're scared of what what you heard.

857
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: Or they didn't have you do that, but oh yeah, yeah,

858
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: that's why I think this could be like really original

859
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: if we added into the show.

860
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess regret. If you could go back and

861
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: do it over again, what would you change? Hmmm.

862
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: I feel like I would have gone and said to

863
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: people either about Donna Kelsey, Yeah.

864
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: It's not all about Yeah, this was like four days.

865
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: Like if you could do it all, we've all moved.

866
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: If you could do it all over again.

867
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: I would have I would have stopped nine to eleven.

868
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: If you had been on that plane, would have gone

869
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: down a little different huh mm hmmm, yeah, m hmm.

870
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: It did bring up saw something instead, something.

871
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: Even temporarily mm hmm. You know yeah, and so something

872
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: way worse could have happened. So great.

873
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that's actually my fear. Yeah yeah, sort of a

874
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: butterfly thing. Yeah, like a Marquis pod. Yeah, maybe it

875
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: should be. Maybe even if you had the whole life

876
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: to go back through, it should just be that you

877
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: warned people about don A Kelsey.

878
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm actually sort of gravitating.

879
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm warming to that now. I'm going you know, all

880
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: the stuff you did, maybe just like, let's put them

881
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: back in the trader and that's where you can't do

882
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: this much damage.

883
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: And now I'm thinking you did understand the assignment. That's

884
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: what you're It should be called. I understand these.

885
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Speaker 1: I understood these. That's a good book name.

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Speaker 2: I understand it, I understand understand it.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, this has been smartness. And we always sign

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Speaker 1: off the same way on this show, which is with

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Speaker 1: Rob C's thought of the week.

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Speaker 2: We might as well price in Rob at this point.

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Speaker 1: You know, sure, sure.

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Speaker 3: If you have a chance to go back and do

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Speaker 3: anything over again.

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Speaker 1: Bye,