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Speaker 1: But anyways, we're gonna get into the Times later on,
Speaker 1: but before we do that, there is a big debate
Speaker 1: happening on Twitter after this Golden tape trade that the
Speaker 1: Eagles made, and I wanted to get y'all's opinion on
Speaker 1: that versus you know, what was the right move? Should
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have got in Amari Cooper? Should they have
Speaker 1: tried to get a golden tate? Was that the right move?
Speaker 1: Of what does it mean for the Cowboys? I actually
Speaker 1: love the way that Nick described this last night at
Speaker 1: the Happy Hour Show. You remember what you say last night,
Speaker 1: Nick about this um kind of what you're getting, like,
Speaker 1: I mean as far as investment, Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and actually I think I got it really from Dave
Speaker 1: so oh so sure, let's leave Well, well, Dave I
Speaker 1: talked about rad I don't remember. No, Basically, this comes
Speaker 1: down to whether or not you want to buy a player,
Speaker 1: you want to rent a player, and that's what the
Speaker 1: Eagles have done, and that's what I think the Texans
Speaker 1: did with de Marius Thomas. That's what maybe you could
Speaker 1: say the Clinton Dicks with the Redskins. You know, these
Speaker 1: players one year left on their deal. They're getting him
Speaker 1: for this year. We'll see what happens afterwards. This is
Speaker 1: what you were gonna do if you got Earl Thomas.
Speaker 1: You were gonna rent him and then hope to get him.
Speaker 1: So it's not a it's not a practice that's that's unusual.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are getting a guy for down the road.
Speaker 1: This was they get their first round pick next year.
Speaker 1: They're just getting him now. That's the difference. So it's
Speaker 1: really gonna be hard to evaluate it right now because
Speaker 1: if you compare Tate versus cooper as as usual. And
Speaker 1: I don't say this with the stain in my voice
Speaker 1: because I love Twitter more than everybody at this table, probably,
Speaker 1: but combined, yeah, no, I love it, um. But that's
Speaker 1: just the way this thing works now is people people
Speaker 1: are in such a hurry to have to have a
Speaker 1: take or to have an opinion or you know, at
Speaker 1: this you know, it reminds me of the dak Winz
Speaker 1: debate back in twenty sixteen, like people are so eager
Speaker 1: to have something to talk trash about that you know,
Speaker 1: it can't it can't wait and that's I mean, any
Speaker 1: trade requires time to properly evaluate, just like a draft
Speaker 1: class does. The Cowboys clearly draft or traded for Amary Cooper,
Speaker 1: excuse me, because he's young, and he's a guy that
Speaker 1: they think they can build hit their receiver corps around.
Speaker 1: The Eagles think Golden Tate is a guy that can
Speaker 1: help push them to another level for another run at
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they probably don't care if he'll be
Speaker 1: around after this season. If I had to guess, I mean,
Speaker 1: they might try to resign him, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a priority for them, Whereas the Cowboys clearly intend
Speaker 1: on Amari Cooper being a key piece of their offense
Speaker 1: for five to six years um. And so these are
Speaker 1: two totally different trades. It's going to take time to
Speaker 1: know who made the better deal, and that's fine, but
Speaker 1: people don't want to hear that because somebody needs to
Speaker 1: be laughed at, and that's pretty much what fuels most
Speaker 1: of this. Peterson and Wentz will probably well will outlast
Speaker 1: Golden Tate's time in Philly. Peterson and went and Wentz
Speaker 1: and I Cooper will outlast Dak and Garrett here. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is a big statement. That's what I think is
Speaker 1: going to happen. The Garrett part doesn't blow my mind
Speaker 1: so much. But I mean, and I see your logic there,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people probably agree with you,
Speaker 1: but I'm not ready to say that. I mean, you're right,
Speaker 1: it's a little early, but I think it's very okay.
Speaker 1: Can I also throw in what the other thing that
Speaker 1: needs to be that needs to be I think remembered,
Speaker 1: is that if the reports are correct, Philadelphia Eagles were
Speaker 1: also in the market trying to get a trade for
Speaker 1: Mari Cooper. They're supposedly we're willing to give up a
Speaker 1: second round pick for Mari Cooper. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is so much a and I think fans
Speaker 1: are the fans that are making those kind of arguments
Speaker 1: to trying to paint this picture of well, if Eagles
Speaker 1: did the smarter deal. No, the Eagles did the deal
Speaker 1: that was left for them. They wanted Amari Cooper, if
Speaker 1: the reports are correct, just like the Cowboys, and according
Speaker 1: to reports, many other teams there are a lot of
Speaker 1: other teams that were interested in getting him. Now it
Speaker 1: was a less price second round pick. There were some
Speaker 1: other teams though, that were willing to give up first
Speaker 1: round picks. The point is Amari Cooper was, according to
Speaker 1: I think the just looking at the amount of interest
Speaker 1: there was around the league for him, he seems to
Speaker 1: be the player, the wide receiver of all these that
Speaker 1: got traded, the one that was the most valued commodity
Speaker 1: that was available. And so I think that has to
Speaker 1: be factored in if you're going to talk about, well,
Speaker 1: they gave up a three VERD to get that player,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys gave up one to get Cooper, and
Speaker 1: you know, give it a FOD to get Damarius Thomas
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. You have to remember Mark Cooper
Speaker 1: was the prize, I think, the biggest prize I think
Speaker 1: out that was being dangled by teams, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: ended up with him. They had to give up a
Speaker 1: big price for him. We get all that, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was a situation where
Speaker 1: there were plenty of other teams out there that were
Speaker 1: willing to give up ones and twos for Mary Cooper.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's it's you could all mean the
Speaker 1: flip side side, You could argue the Eagles just stayed
Speaker 1: within their budget, like they're like, we're willing to give this,
Speaker 1: not that, whereas the Cowboys were like, all right, we'll
Speaker 1: give the one understanding that this guy's going to be
Speaker 1: here for a long time. And so that's why going
Speaker 1: back to when the Cooper trade was made, and I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is an overpay, but when you factor in what
Speaker 1: you're getting, I think you know and what you have
Speaker 1: and what you have, it's you have to pay to
Speaker 1: get something like Timing is everything too, because what's the
Speaker 1: one thing people are saying that surprises him about Paul Alexander.
Speaker 1: It's not that it happened, it was when, Why do
Speaker 1: it now? Why not do it last week? Do it
Speaker 1: going into your bye week? Timing I think affected everything
Speaker 1: here because the Cowboys went into their by and really
Speaker 1: wanted to have a player that they could kind of
Speaker 1: groom to get ready here for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: On top of the whole future thing, Philadelphia is now
Speaker 1: going into their by and they're probably doing the same
Speaker 1: thing with tape. If Detroit beats Seattle at home, which
Speaker 1: they probably should have, but they're not as good. If
Speaker 1: they beat Seattle at home, it's golden Tate still for sale.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean Detroit has a decision
Speaker 1: to make. They're right there at that division. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they get rid of their best wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, I think Detroit is in a
Speaker 1: little different situation than most of the teams that traded
Speaker 1: away players because I actually think they believe because of
Speaker 1: their second round uh, their second year wide receiver Gala Day,
Speaker 1: I think they feel like, hey, even if we get
Speaker 1: rid of him, they may even have wanted the increased
Speaker 1: role for Gala Day and there and they had a
Speaker 1: situation whereout like, hey, we're okay with letting this guy go.
Speaker 1: We'll get some compensation for him, and at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we fock, we're just as good because
Speaker 1: we still have two truly quality wide receivers on our team.
Speaker 1: I agree, But I don't think they win. I don't
Speaker 1: think they make the trade. If they lose, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if they win, they win.
Speaker 1: If they if they win the game, I'm sorry, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1: So It's just it's just weird how the old timing
Speaker 1: from the Eagles buy, Cowboys buy. But you said it
Speaker 1: best just a few minutes ago, that when when everyone's value,
Speaker 1: you know, evaluating wide receivers. The prize of the group
Speaker 1: was Amari Cooper, and the Cowboys outbid everyone and an
Speaker 1: outpaid everyone to get them right. But they're in a
Speaker 1: different situation because they need this guy. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that. It really seems like NFL teams are changing
Speaker 1: how they feel about making trades, which finally fun for us. No, well,
Speaker 1: not only is it fun, but it's smart. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hate to defend the Eagles, but I love the
Speaker 1: thought process that they're like, well, we'll take this guy
Speaker 1: for eight games, and if it doesn't work out, we'll
Speaker 1: at least get probably a fourth round draft pick for him,
Speaker 1: if not a third. It won't be till twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: but we'll still get something back. Lions are the same way.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, Galladay can step up and do this,
Speaker 1: and in the meantime, we'll get a third round pick
Speaker 1: for it. Cowboys, Okay, we'll give up a first round
Speaker 1: pick with the understanding that this guy functions like a
Speaker 1: first round pick, which for too long it seems like
Speaker 1: NFL teams have just acted like those picks or these
Speaker 1: sacred cows that you just can't part ways with. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true based on how bad most
Speaker 1: teams are at drafting players. So winners and losers of this,
Speaker 1: everyone wants to say who won the trade deadline? Who's
Speaker 1: the winners, who's the losers? What are you thinking if
Speaker 1: you're Dez Bryant. I thought about that on my drive
Speaker 1: end this morning, and I was thinking, either he is
Speaker 1: just basically took himself off the market, or I have
Speaker 1: a whole different opinion of what the NFL thinks of.
Speaker 1: We would rather lose picks and get better, you know,
Speaker 1: probably not better players, but more in shape players, NFL
Speaker 1: ready players, I guess right now than to go get
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. And the thing about that same for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and the thing about that. The thing about that is,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are a little different because they
Speaker 1: got a different kind of player. They got a much
Speaker 1: younger player. When you're talking about de Marius Thomas and
Speaker 1: you're talking about Golden take, these are guys that are
Speaker 1: thirty years old, right. Marius Thomas is literally Dez Bryant
Speaker 1: exactly exact he was taking. So you're talking about guys
Speaker 1: that are right there in the same age brackets. So
Speaker 1: age is not a factor anymore. Experience is not a
Speaker 1: factor anymore. It's more which one do you prefer? I
Speaker 1: want this guy, you want this guy? And are you
Speaker 1: willing up a pick to get this guy versus not
Speaker 1: giving up a pick to sign this guy? And unless again,
Speaker 1: it is a possibility that des was contact, He's Asian,
Speaker 1: was contact and he said I have no interest. Maybe
Speaker 1: that happened. I'm just saying it did. It does seem
Speaker 1: a bit odd that he's still out on the street.
Speaker 1: I have been hesitant to agree with Nick about this
Speaker 1: all season because I love Dez as a player, and
Speaker 1: I know how passionate he is about football. But I
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of choices but to think he
Speaker 1: probably doesn't outright not want to play football. But I'm
Speaker 1: forced to think that, like his value of himself is
Speaker 1: so far out of whack with the league's value of him.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't want to play enough to sign any deal,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, he wants to play
Speaker 1: on his terms, and everybody in the league is like, no,
Speaker 1: not those terms, Yeah no, no, thank you yea. So
Speaker 1: it's it's baffling to me because, yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: have to believe if he was willing to just sign
Speaker 1: a one year Houston probably would have taken I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and so I have no choice but to believe that
Speaker 1: he's the reason why he's not playing right now. It's
Speaker 1: his decision. Yeah, well, I have a different question for
Speaker 1: you guys. And like you said, Nick, there are time
Speaker 1: in as a factor, and there are other factors playing
Speaker 1: into this whole thing. But when you look at right
Speaker 1: now and not worrying about the future, are you know
Speaker 1: anything that would happen in the draft or whatever. If
Speaker 1: I'm the coaches, I'm concerned about what's happening right now
Speaker 1: and if my job is in the line. So when
Speaker 1: you look at these two receivers, as far as Tape
Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper, who would have been the guy that
Speaker 1: would have helped your team the most at this point
Speaker 1: of the season. That's based on what you've seen in
Speaker 1: the past from both of those guys. They're a little
Speaker 1: different types of players. You got a great route running
Speaker 1: player in Golden Tape. You also have no buttons ever,
Speaker 1: really question, I mean, to me, he's about as close
Speaker 1: as Steve Smith as far as body type and attitude,
Speaker 1: And I mean not really. You know, a fan favorite
Speaker 1: if you don't play, if he's not on your team,
Speaker 1: he's pretty hated. Um he had which is okay, cheap
Speaker 1: shot against shan Lee that has not been forgotten. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to be the reason why they
Speaker 1: didn't make the deal or whatever. But again, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if Golden Tate was available when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were really trying to do that. Maybe he was, maybe
Speaker 1: he wasn't. I think he's a better route runner. He
Speaker 1: could help this team for sure, and he would help Dak.
Speaker 1: But I think Cooper is kind of what they need
Speaker 1: more of a guy that stretches the field a little
Speaker 1: bit more. That's I just think to be willing to
Speaker 1: part with a pick like that, And I understand the
Speaker 1: Eagles will probably get a pick back in twenty twenty. Wait,
Speaker 1: I'm taking out the whole pig thing. If you're looking
Speaker 1: at both of the players right now in the season,
Speaker 1: who helps the Cowboys the most? Who would have helped
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the most? I can't. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: you have to weigh those things. You have to. You're
Speaker 1: just like, well, you can have one or the other.
Speaker 1: I mean that, I don't know. That's not the way
Speaker 1: that works well. Draft guy Like, to me, I'm worried
Speaker 1: about the now, the present. Yeah, the can't. The reason
Speaker 1: Cooper makes more senses because he's guaranteed to be here
Speaker 1: for longer. That's and so Golden Tate could be significantly
Speaker 1: better than Cooper, which I don't think he is, but
Speaker 1: he could be significantly better. But I'll still take the
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be here for twenty five games over eight.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, that's math, and I'm not even
Speaker 1: good at math. Well, I will say, I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I think what you're what you're trying to
Speaker 1: get at really is just like, who is a better
Speaker 1: player for the Cowboys right now? You throw him on
Speaker 1: the field, who immediately helps what the Cowboys do be better? Right?
Speaker 1: And and so I look at it from a couple
Speaker 1: I think Nick made some good points there, but I
Speaker 1: think you also, if you want to look at the
Speaker 1: flip side of that, he's also a guy that can
Speaker 1: move the chains for you. So when the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: games where they can't seem to move the ball and
Speaker 1: they can't get anything going, they can't convert third downs,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can move the change for you.
Speaker 1: He's also a guy that is really good in a
Speaker 1: slot and block pretty well. So if you're a running team,
Speaker 1: maybe having that guy out there, you get a little
Speaker 1: bit more than you would say having Cole and slot
Speaker 1: and you're trying to run out there where he is.
Speaker 1: We know how much the Cowboys love to motion guys
Speaker 1: in and then try to run on that same side.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gives you a little bit more there from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of your running game and you're run blocking again.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a matter of the flavor that
Speaker 1: you want, right because I agree wholeheartedly with you, like
Speaker 1: his ability to go down feel would be a value
Speaker 1: for this team as well Cooper. So I think it's
Speaker 1: really kind of what you prefer. Which one do you
Speaker 1: would you like to have, because both of them could,
Speaker 1: I think, add a lot to your team where you
Speaker 1: are right now. And that also just tells you a
Speaker 1: little bit about the receiving corps you currently have. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of different ways you can improve that,
Speaker 1: and both those guys could improve it in different ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, both guys are going to be easily the
Speaker 1: number one receiver immediately on the team just because of
Speaker 1: what you said, what they have. I think if the
Speaker 1: Eagles don't win the super Bowl and they don't resign him,
Speaker 1: I don't think that people will view this as the
Speaker 1: Eagles got a better deal, because if I don't think
Speaker 1: he'll put up stats, I think his stats will go
Speaker 1: down because what Detroit was doing with Stafford and all that.
Speaker 1: I don't think wins is going to just try to
Speaker 1: get him the ball. They can still have Jeffrey that
Speaker 1: they like, They have orts, they have a lot of
Speaker 1: different ways they like to move. He might be a
Speaker 1: really good player for them and might be a missing piece,
Speaker 1: but he'll do it with less catches and less yards
Speaker 1: because of what the way that they're structured. I'm still surprised.
Speaker 1: If you're a fantasy owner, you're probably not happy about
Speaker 1: This is really what I'm trying to say. If you
Speaker 1: have Gold that if you have Gold Tate, but he
Speaker 1: still might be really good for them, but it won't
Speaker 1: be the same eight catches for one hundred and fourteen
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown every game. I honestly think that
Speaker 1: the teams in this division went they went the opposite
Speaker 1: of what I thought. I mean, obvious they know their
Speaker 1: needs better than I do, but I think Washington could
Speaker 1: probably use Golden Tate more than the Eagles at a
Speaker 1: good point, the Eagles could use Haha, Clinton Dicks more
Speaker 1: than Washington. Yeah. Without Rodney McCloud, their secondary has kind
Speaker 1: of fallen apart. The Boys needed both. The Cowboys not
Speaker 1: so much Tad after the Cooper deal, but I mean
Speaker 1: fourth round pick for ha ha Clinton Dix, even if
Speaker 1: he struggled this year and even if he won't resign
Speaker 1: in the off season, I would do that. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's actually that was one trade. That was actually the
Speaker 1: one trade that I was a little bit like, I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. And the reason why is because
Speaker 1: you look at most of the teams that traded away players,
Speaker 1: they're pretty much done for the year. They don't think
Speaker 1: they're going very very far, and so this was a
Speaker 1: way for them to get value in a year for
Speaker 1: next year, in a year where they're not going to
Speaker 1: really do much. Packers are clearly a playoff team in
Speaker 1: my opinion. There you don't think so with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I think they're always a playoff playoff contender. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I think playoff contender and playoff
Speaker 1: team are different things, but okay, let's give up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the point is when you got Aaron Rodgers, if you
Speaker 1: talk to anybody in Green Bay, I'm sure they still
Speaker 1: feel like, right now, we're where we want to be.
Speaker 1: We're fine, we have an opportunity to get to the
Speaker 1: playoffs and then make our way. My point is for
Speaker 1: them to give up a that kind of player says
Speaker 1: to me that they don't think he's into them winning now.
Speaker 1: And that's the part that made me think, well, is
Speaker 1: Washington getting damaged goods to some degree because they're willing
Speaker 1: to give up a team that considers themselves a playoff
Speaker 1: contender is willing to give him up in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. I think it's I think both of
Speaker 1: the guys the Packers traded and we know for a
Speaker 1: fact Tim Montgomery, but haha too is I think they're
Speaker 1: both guys that were just on the outs with the
Speaker 1: organization problem children. I mean, it was not that it
Speaker 1: was a couple of weeks ago that haha was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is probably my last year here, so just get
Speaker 1: rid of it. And if he was, if he was
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, you put up with that. But he's not.
Speaker 1: He's still a pretty good player, but not better to
Speaker 1: not have him in that locker room for the return
Speaker 1: than to worry about all that. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: So ye, also, you listening, I hope this discussion helps
Speaker 1: you form a better idea of what these traits mean
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, saying hopefully if make you feel a
Speaker 1: little bit better about the Amari Cooper trade versus the
Speaker 1: Golden Tate, I feel like, I mean, yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: it's way too early to declare a winner or a loser, Like,
Speaker 1: if that's what you're trying to like, that's my point
Speaker 1: is like people who are trying to do that just
Speaker 1: have an agenda, either pro Cowboys or anti But it's
Speaker 1: stupid to sit here and act like the Cowboys did
Speaker 1: this unbelievably stupid thing or unbelievably smart. Yeah no, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean people who push that agenda are just trying
Speaker 1: to get retweets. In my opinion, Yeah, let's take our
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, all right, this is the second
Speaker 1: segment of the Break, and the Cowboys do have a
Speaker 1: game to play this weekend. They're going to be facing
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans at home, which should mean that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be good if it's at home, right, according to
Speaker 1: what we've seen so far. So Dave, let's start talking
Speaker 1: about the offense and what they have to bring. Stop
Speaker 1: me if this sounds familiar. You got a Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: offense that has sunk a lot of resources into its
Speaker 1: offensive line. But okay, stop, yeah, that does sound familiar.
Speaker 1: Can you let me ruin it? You said, stop if
Speaker 1: it's ruined the effect of the whole thing, Uh, a
Speaker 1: lot of resources into its offensive line is not playing
Speaker 1: like the Jugger, not that it's supposed to be. Uh.
Speaker 1: They have a highly touted young quarterback who has played
Speaker 1: at a Pro Bowl level at one point in his career,
Speaker 1: but kind of looks like he's lacking in confidence, a
Speaker 1: no name receiver corps uh, and a couple of really
Speaker 1: talented running backs who are playing pretty well but could
Speaker 1: be playing better if their offensive line was doing better.
Speaker 1: There's one more really good they have right now. It's true.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Well. Uh. And so as you
Speaker 1: might not, as you might not be surprised to hear,
Speaker 1: the Titans look a lot like the Cowboys, uh, statistically
Speaker 1: and personnel wise, Um, they're thirtieth in offense, like they're
Speaker 1: literally they're not as good running the ball as the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are. Because the Cowboys are still really good and
Speaker 1: Zeke is better than Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry put
Speaker 1: together their thirtieth in yards per game, their thirtieth in
Speaker 1: passing yards, which is one below the Cowboys. I believe.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys moved up to twenty ninth eighteenth
Speaker 1: and rushing offense. In scoring offense, they're scoring fifteen points
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, how bad you have to In other words,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys win just by default because the Cowboys only
Speaker 1: given up what how many they've given up? Seventeen point two.
Speaker 1: This game's at home, Cowboys. Cowboys are gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: And also tam Last words, Tennessee, though it was a
Speaker 1: team you're gonna talk about their wide receivers, Tennessee was
Speaker 1: the team that I believe wanted Cooper for a first
Speaker 1: round pick. Oh, and that's actually that is makes some sense.
Speaker 1: That is, you know, I try to I follow at
Speaker 1: least one beat writer for every team in the league,
Speaker 1: and I like to think I keep a pretty good
Speaker 1: pulse on all of that like Tennessee, their fan base
Speaker 1: and their media are kind of perplexed that why the
Speaker 1: Titans didn't try to improve this receiver corps because you
Speaker 1: got you got Taija Sharpe. Uh you got. Yeah, He's
Speaker 1: a mid round pick from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: He's easily he's been their best receiver at this point
Speaker 1: in the season. Isn't saying a lot which And hey,
Speaker 1: it's not like they haven't tried because Corey Davis believe,
Speaker 1: the number three overall pick out of Western Michigan lost
Speaker 1: this rookie season due to injury. He hasn't been bad.
Speaker 1: He had a really clutch touchdown in overtime against Philly
Speaker 1: to beat them, but hasn't been great. Taywan Taylor, Um,
Speaker 1: there receives a worse than the Cowboys, aren't they. It's
Speaker 1: well not anymore because the Cowboys or something. No, no,
Speaker 1: you know what this reminds me. Has just reminded me
Speaker 1: of other days of of of Jason Tucker and who
Speaker 1: was who was the other guy that whatever? I think
Speaker 1: he's from Texas A and m Commerce or something. Tall
Speaker 1: guy razzle. Yeah, like just your receivers are just guys
Speaker 1: that are just like he has no idea who they are.
Speaker 1: Here's here's a statum that was a little better than
Speaker 1: those guys. The tight The Titans have five passing touchdowns
Speaker 1: this year. Three of them are two wide receivers. One
Speaker 1: is to a tight end and the other one is
Speaker 1: to a safety that came on a fake punt. Like
Speaker 1: they're todown I believe so, yes, it's it's nine. They
Speaker 1: had nine for the year. Total is yeah. No, I
Speaker 1: mean they run, they run the ball, but honest like
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not as good at it as a
Speaker 1: team that looks like this needs to be. And that's
Speaker 1: really where I want to focus this thing is we
Speaker 1: complain about the Cowboys obsession with the tight end position.
Speaker 1: These dudes, I don't know if this is a Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel thing, but like they are obsessed with tight ends.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is Delaney Walkers on ir and
Speaker 1: by the way, he changes this offense appreciably better. He
Speaker 1: is a really good tight end. He is an under
Speaker 1: He is one of the league's most undergo players in
Speaker 1: my opinion. The Titans run twelve personnel thirty four percent
Speaker 1: of the time. That is the second most in the
Speaker 1: the NFL. Wow. They run thirteen personnel ten percent of
Speaker 1: the time, which is the third most. So they have two,
Speaker 1: if not three tight ends on the field half the time.
Speaker 1: What basically the tight ends? Uh, Their tight ends are
Speaker 1: Luke Stocker, John Nu Smith who is a rookie, and
Speaker 1: Anthony first ferk sir, who are you? Yeah? No, literally
Speaker 1: I And the one time, the one touchdown to a
Speaker 1: tight end was Luke Stocker. He caught the would have
Speaker 1: been game tying touchdown in London last week had the
Speaker 1: Titans not opted to go for two. But I guess
Speaker 1: which was a call that I love. But you know
Speaker 1: that right now in Nashville on the weekly show of
Speaker 1: Tighten Up that they're they're saying ten Blake Blake Jarwin
Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz and Rico Gathers, who I think plays basketball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then their guy goes, who are you? And so
Speaker 1: I'm my guy, Garius say, if you don't have a
Speaker 1: show called tighten Up, you need to get a show
Speaker 1: call tightened Upe. I think that should be a weekly
Speaker 1: thing that we do. Here we go show, I mean,
Speaker 1: like Nick, we do do that every week. This is
Speaker 1: a segment. Yeah, we're like, I mean, it'll be birds
Speaker 1: Insider next week, um hot talk talk here, that would
Speaker 1: be good. This is a team that is obsessed with
Speaker 1: like smash miles, big personnel, but like they suck at it.
Speaker 1: They they Dion Lewis is averaging three point yards per
Speaker 1: carre three point eight yards Patriots, Yes, Lewis three point
Speaker 1: eight yards per carry. Derek Derrick Henry, the big Heisman
Speaker 1: winning beast at Alabama three point three yards per carre.
Speaker 1: And this I mean Taylor Luan and run. I mean
Speaker 1: not a slow guys. He he's basically a freight train.
Speaker 1: Like he needs a mile and a half to get
Speaker 1: up to speed. Yeah, like when he gets there, he's
Speaker 1: pretty fast. But just just know this though, I'm guys
Speaker 1: that split time and you're the big back, you your
Speaker 1: your average per caryou is definitely gonna be down because
Speaker 1: on second and on third and one, Dion Lewis might
Speaker 1: have done some things. On third and one, he comes in,
Speaker 1: gets two yards, gets the first down, and that kills
Speaker 1: his average. You know. So if you if you're splitting
Speaker 1: time and you're the short yardist guy, your average is
Speaker 1: always going to be a little down. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. But for you to have
Speaker 1: invested first round picks and Taylor Luan and Jack Conklin
Speaker 1: and bring in a big free agent in Ben Jones,
Speaker 1: And this is I mean, this was this. Oakland, Dallas,
Speaker 1: and Tennessee have been the ballyhood offensive lines in the
Speaker 1: league for the last couple of years. And I mean
Speaker 1: to not average four yards per carry that sucks. Is
Speaker 1: their offensive line intact or they they've had injury issues
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys. They've been I mean nothing like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys where a guy's on IR but Quentin Spain's been
Speaker 1: in and out of the lineup. He didn't play this
Speaker 1: last game. I know that they've moved a couple guys
Speaker 1: around at times, but I mean the big three have
Speaker 1: been there, So I mean the tackles are the strength
Speaker 1: of the line. Yeah, they've allowed twenty two sacks, which
Speaker 1: is one less than Dallas. Yeah, I mean it's it's struggling.
Speaker 1: And I don't I didn't do a deep enough dive.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what exactly it is. But they
Speaker 1: have not been playing up to the level that their
Speaker 1: talent indicates. Um And I think, I mean Mariota deserves
Speaker 1: some blame in that. Like I said he Mariota. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I believe you pronounce it Mariota Mariota. Um, he looks
Speaker 1: like he lacks pocket awareness, lacks com lacks confidence, Like
Speaker 1: he runs himself into sacks and takes his eyes down
Speaker 1: from downfield, just like Dak has done at times this year. Um,
Speaker 1: he locks onto targets. He's thrown some really bad balls
Speaker 1: where like he just knows that's supposed to be my
Speaker 1: read and I'm gonna throw it, and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like that was a good decision. What's the
Speaker 1: record again, They're three and four. They started they lost
Speaker 1: first game in season one, three in a row and
Speaker 1: then they lost. They've lost three in a row. So
Speaker 1: I guess tomorrow streaky. When we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: why they can win this game is when we talk
Speaker 1: about the defense. Their defense. I'm watching their defense right now.
Speaker 1: The numbers are impressive, but and I haven't done a lot,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to get ahead of myself. But
Speaker 1: like they're they're not jumping off the screen at me
Speaker 1: the way like a Jacksonville does or I mean even
Speaker 1: when you watched him on tape heading into that game,
Speaker 1: they still look pretty impressive. Yeah, talking about their offensive
Speaker 1: line again, didn't they give up or did you just
Speaker 1: say that they don't give up eleven sacks? They have? No,
Speaker 1: I've given up twenty two seven but against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, eleven of those game against more against one team. Yeah, which, well,
Speaker 1: but that but that's a big deal though. It absolutely
Speaker 1: it's very It's very similar to the Falcons game from
Speaker 1: last year of like you're gonna give anybody any help? Like, no,
Speaker 1: that was first round pick? Just figured out and which
Speaker 1: game was that? How two weeks ago twenty one? Just
Speaker 1: like you said with the Atlanta game, My question would be,
Speaker 1: is that now affecting future games like the game after that?
Speaker 1: Is that when you were seeing the quarterback be less
Speaker 1: confident and being a little more worried to take his
Speaker 1: eyes down because now he's will get more work not
Speaker 1: to London And yeah, no they don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: they they should have won that game, and yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: They were they were yeah for two, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes that's good, sometimes it's not. But when you're dominating
Speaker 1: the second half like they were the Chargers and had
Speaker 1: the momentum, you probably want to kick it and go
Speaker 1: to overtime there. But you know, if you have a
Speaker 1: sixteen hour flight and facing you, maybe you just want
Speaker 1: to get home. I don't know. No, you want to win,
Speaker 1: you win all that way. You want to know much.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's just easier to say I got him
Speaker 1: two yards away from window right there. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have to flip a coin, I don't have to kick off.
Speaker 1: I don't do all that stuff. I just get to
Speaker 1: And by the way, he may really believe like that
Speaker 1: guy on the other side is better than us wherever
Speaker 1: he gets. If he gets the ball, I'm not certain
Speaker 1: that that we're going to stop him. I love their
Speaker 1: decision go for two. I love it too. I didn't
Speaker 1: like their play call. I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: answer this, um, if you'll be able to remember, but
Speaker 1: I'll try my best. Thank you. UM. There has been
Speaker 1: IF with a few teams where you've described their offense
Speaker 1: pretty similar, like the one you just described today in
Speaker 1: comparing them versus the Cowboys. Out of those, if you
Speaker 1: could remember, how many of them have actually been better
Speaker 1: than the Cowboys, meaning actually what they what they looked
Speaker 1: like going in going in. I thought, I mean, Washington's
Speaker 1: offense is very similar to the Cowboys. Obviously they won.
Speaker 1: Washington's offense looks better than this, though, Um, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think who else I know there's been a couple
Speaker 1: do you guys remember that where when he's breaking down
Speaker 1: their offense, he've kind of described them a similar way
Speaker 1: than the one he just Houston said today. I mean
Speaker 1: Houston didn't have a great running game. They also won. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Houston just because Deshaun Watson is so dynamic and
Speaker 1: with the pre snap movement that they do, it doesn't
Speaker 1: it didn't really look like Dallas to me. We talked
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. A lot of teams what they look
Speaker 1: like right now did not look like this going into
Speaker 1: the game, and they maybe the Cowboys for the springboard
Speaker 1: for Seattle, for Houston, for um um when maybe Washington.
Speaker 1: We'll see, I mean they were kind of on the
Speaker 1: fence anyways, so we'll see. It's a big game for
Speaker 1: them this week against Atlanta. That's that's huge. That's huge
Speaker 1: for them in the division and also just for them
Speaker 1: if they're gonna they're gonna really like take control of
Speaker 1: this thing. Let's say they're gonna have to win those
Speaker 1: kind of games that can kind of creep up one one.
Speaker 1: I'll start taking them seriously if they win that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, um same way. Much like Dak Prescott, Mariota
Speaker 1: is athletic. He's got one hundred and eighty five rushing
Speaker 1: yards on the year. They do use a lot of
Speaker 1: read option stuff more than the Cowboys. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, one hundred and eighty five over
Speaker 1: seven games. He's only averaging thirty yards per game. So
Speaker 1: he's not Michael Vick out there, but he does have
Speaker 1: that threat. I don't I didn't see as much run
Speaker 1: pass option as you would think when you have a
Speaker 1: guy like that. I think he has a ninety yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: I don't know that off the top of my head, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: in his life, Okay, I was gonna say, damn, well,
Speaker 1: it's only been in the league like three years. I
Speaker 1: think it was last year or the year before. I
Speaker 1: mean he had like a ninety one yard touchdown run
Speaker 1: like on a on an RPO. Like you sure you're
Speaker 1: not thinking about Terrelle Pryor. I don't know Terrell Terrelle
Speaker 1: Pryor did that. Gets a little different the Steelers. I
Speaker 1: believe he did it against somebody. Never mind, it might Age,
Speaker 1: It might be Mariota. You just gave up so easily there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't watch JFC football, but I
Speaker 1: really feel like Mariona did have a long run, like
Speaker 1: a ninety yarder. But I don't know. It could have
Speaker 1: been prior. Well, it's time for us to take our
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to fight, really. I know I bashed
Speaker 1: their ability to run. But the things that concern me
Speaker 1: about this Titans offense are, like I said, Mariota's athleticism,
Speaker 1: not just in getting out the pocket, but what he
Speaker 1: can do in a designed situation, whether it's RPO, read option,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Uh. And then Dion
Speaker 1: Lewis and Derrick Henry are good players though, and he
Speaker 1: throws to them a lot. I feel like the best
Speaker 1: thing they do is leak Dion Lewis out of the
Speaker 1: play and throw it to him in the flat, which
Speaker 1: it's baffling to watch, like how many routes are just
Speaker 1: somebody running five yards downfield and then facing the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like it seems like every guy that catches the ball
Speaker 1: from Mariota is turned to him, which is frustrating. I
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys do it with Zeke way too often.
Speaker 1: But Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry both do that a lot.
Speaker 1: They're both threats to catch the ball, and I bet
Speaker 1: you they both will catch several balls. Dean Lewis is
Speaker 1: especially scary because he's powerful and shifty, like he's more
Speaker 1: People think of him as a scap back, and he is,
Speaker 1: but he's more powerful than I think he gets credit for.
Speaker 1: So are those are the three that I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to have to watch? Because like, these
Speaker 1: receivers and tight ends don't do much for me. So okay,
Speaker 1: So is this one of those games where it comes
Speaker 1: down to the defense again. I will get into the
Speaker 1: defense tomorrow, but for both teams. Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have reason to be optimistic that their offense will
Speaker 1: be better, but I need to see that. So and
Speaker 1: and we'll get you. Like you said, we'll get into
Speaker 1: the Titans tomorrow. But I believe they're wait. I have
Speaker 1: it written down. Actually, the cow Boys are third in
Speaker 1: scoring defense and the Cowboys are second. So get ready
Speaker 1: for points. Come on, baby, offensive explosion. We like points.
Speaker 1: You won that I'm first one to twenty wins probably yeah,
Speaker 1: but and they play close games. Said that to finish.
Speaker 1: I mean last time I said that the Cowboys hung
Speaker 1: forty on the Jags. So it is at home, Cowboys
Speaker 1: thirty eight Titans ten. You heard it here first at
Speaker 1: and t Magic. Ten's aggressive. I mean against this defense.
Speaker 1: You're right, Ten's aggressive. But so I mean this it's
Speaker 1: a it's a familiar looking offense. I think I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are it's well within them to keep this
Speaker 1: team below twenty four, if not lower than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, here's a question from Twitter and Dave, thank
Speaker 1: you for that report. It was good Twitter. Yes, and
Speaker 1: I have forgotten that the Cowboys are still with fifty
Speaker 1: two guys on the roster right now. So are they
Speaker 1: planning on added another player in there or what's up
Speaker 1: with the spot? Yeah? They put C J. Goodwin on
Speaker 1: um I R. I don't think they decided to announce that.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. On the bye week they're just like, well,
Speaker 1: the team's not here, so whatever. Um wait, wait, so
Speaker 1: it happened last week. I don't know happen. It happened
Speaker 1: something now because he had surgery on like Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: I think they were waiting to see you know if
Speaker 1: if his prognosis was within the IR time table. I
Speaker 1: probably figured out over the weekend that it wasn't. I
Speaker 1: believe the plan is to bring up a player from
Speaker 1: UM from the practice squad. Who are you bringing? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to go with the defensive back to
Speaker 1: replace that, I guess you could go with Donovan A. Lumba, Um,
Speaker 1: Lance Lenor could be mentioned. You didn't need to do
Speaker 1: a safety. Do you need another safety? Tyree Robinson? Perhaps
Speaker 1: just asking? I mean, that's you've got four You've still
Speaker 1: got four safeties because um, oh man, theon what's the boys?
Speaker 1: A kid somebody I know you're talking about. I can
Speaker 1: picture his face clearly, but I can't remember his name
Speaker 1: right now. Um. I wanted to say Deonte Thompson, but
Speaker 1: that's the wrong side of the Barrys Thompson. That might Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds right. I knew it was Similarson. No, he's
Speaker 1: he's on the he's on the roster. He's one of
Speaker 1: the guys they say he plays. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: dot if if he yeah, Donovan Alumba, that sounds like
Speaker 1: a smart bet to me, or maybe Tyree Robinson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but not a receiver. Forget about Lance Lanor. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just wouldn't get any time like he's being active.
Speaker 1: I assume if he if they brought him up, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if they Yeah, I don't think he I
Speaker 1: mean he might at some point be on the on
Speaker 1: the team and if they decide to part ways with
Speaker 1: someone else. But I mean, let's say they cut Deontay Thompson.
Speaker 1: I believe Thompson on the roster of the whole year.
Speaker 1: He had no well he was cut, but then he
Speaker 1: was on the restaurant. He's yeah, they put him. He
Speaker 1: was active for Caroline. He played, yeah, fourth down, he
Speaker 1: was getting the ball, you know that. That that reminded
Speaker 1: me of the Paul Alexander thing. Again. This just goes
Speaker 1: to show just how much you don't want a guy here.
Speaker 1: I mean, his contracts guaranteed. I mean obviously he's paying.
Speaker 1: You know, coaches are not on the salary cap, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter the same. But like you know,
Speaker 1: he has a guaranteed contract. I mean one year deal
Speaker 1: for sure, and I probably had he probably got more
Speaker 1: than that, actually more than one year. But that just
Speaker 1: that just goes to show just how bad the situation was.
Speaker 1: Is like all right, we're gonna pay you to leave.
Speaker 1: That's basically what would happened. That That just goes, That
Speaker 1: just goes to show just how much they needed a
Speaker 1: change there. You know, my dream in life is to
Speaker 1: get fired from a really expensive job. Not this job.
Speaker 1: It doesn't pay well enough. But like he's not a
Speaker 1: dream because I want to get paid two million dollars
Speaker 1: to go away. Like remember Derek Dooley, he was here
Speaker 1: coaching receivers and Tennessee was paying him like two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month. Just to think you have two
Speaker 1: million dollars skills. No, what did I say? I said
Speaker 1: it might dream. I didn't say it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to get fired from a
Speaker 1: five many media job. You gonna make two million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. If Skip Bayliss can do it, I can.
Speaker 1: I would have thought your dream. And that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: That is a fair point. Hanging from the goal post
Speaker 1: Saturday night, trying to bring it down because you just
Speaker 1: beat Alabama. That would that shock you at all? To goal?
Speaker 1: It would that shock you at all? If Lsu wins
Speaker 1: and you're watching the TV and all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: You see Dave literally on the goal post, like shaking it,
Speaker 1: only because only that would not say. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he would get up there. I got Bryan would lift.
Speaker 1: I got climbing skills, and he's gonna hoist them up.
Speaker 1: I got mad climbing skills. I'm like a little Koala bear.
Speaker 1: Dave's up there, monkey said Koala Bear. Yeah they're well
Speaker 1: because they're tiny and furry like me. He just kind
Speaker 1: of get up there. It's fine. The game, My my flight,
Speaker 1: my flight at home from Baton Rouge is four o'clock
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and if we win, I'm not guaranteeing i'll
Speaker 1: make it. I'll just push it back as long as
Speaker 1: you here from Monday. I got until seven thirty on
Speaker 1: Monday night. It happened. Yeah, anyway, I hope y'all went.
Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic, but it's not gonna stop me from dreaming.
Speaker 1: Are you dressing up for Halloween? I'm dressing up for
Speaker 1: cover four later today? What do you? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be smoking? Jay Cutler, which version of smoking
Speaker 1: on the one that says don't care in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta just tune in, tune in the
Speaker 1: cover four later today. All right, good find out All right, guys,
Speaker 1: Well that's all the time we have for today. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: like we said, we're gonna dive into the Tennessee Defense
Speaker 1: and see what that whole group has screen. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. But thank you very much for tuning in.
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