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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Fantasy Cheat Cheat. Hi

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Speaker 1: Fukus Grant Joey by Michael and Florio and Lakwan Jos.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling on this Thursday, fellas?

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Speaker 2: Good, good good. It's almost a weekend.

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Speaker 1: It is literally There's a lot of things we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into, including Florio's gear. But I do want to

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Speaker 1: start the show with a little bit of personal news.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this opportunity to tell you that this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be my last cheat sheet because I have

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Speaker 1: been elected Pope, so I'm gonna take over. I'm packing

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Speaker 1: my things moving to Vatican City right after we are

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Speaker 1: done here. So but it's gonna go to ride. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate all yourself.

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Speaker 2: It sounds good, sounds good. First split second, I was like, wait,

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Speaker 2: you're not really gonna tell us you're leaving live on air, right,

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Speaker 2: Like we've earned more than that. I got shocked for

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Speaker 2: a second. I was like, no, don't please, don't do this.

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Speaker 1: That that would have been an f up thing to

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Speaker 1: do for sure, that would have been screwed up. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not actually leaving. But yeah, they did announce a

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Speaker 1: new pope. You know, social media is going crazy with it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the pick is in sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, the Cardinals have made a selection. We had

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Speaker 1: some stuff to get into today. We've got some news

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Speaker 1: headlines with some fantasy veteran winners and losers. Awesome. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll take your comments, anything you guys have to say,

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Speaker 1: any questions you guys have, We're certainly here for all

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Speaker 1: that as well. But because this is a show where

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Speaker 1: we also engage in nonsense and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 1: we should probably start with the New York Knickerbockers, who

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Speaker 1: have a two lead in the in their series against

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Speaker 1: We have that mostly because we want to just get

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Speaker 1: this in. We wanted to see that.

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Speaker 2: It's the person tattooed of themselves on their arm that

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Speaker 2: is that is amazing?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: What is that you?

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Speaker 1: Because I was assuming that was like John Stark's or something.

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Speaker 2: I think it's supposed to be me, like an AI

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Speaker 2: version of me with a me tattoo apparently.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I know that was an AI

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Speaker 1: version of you. I just thought you were you had

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Speaker 3: This should definitely be your background on your phone. Man,

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Speaker 3: just downloaded it.

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Speaker 2: Should be probably should ai gave me the crazy eyes.

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Speaker 1: They did give you the crazy eyes. That's that's kind

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Speaker 2: It's kind of scary looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of what Jonathan. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: what I does. I'm distracted looking at some other things here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the next roup two oh and apparently the secret the

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Speaker 1: secret sauces to get down by twenty and then let

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Speaker 1: Michel Bridges pick Jason Tatum's pocket and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's all good.

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Speaker 2: I came out here on Tuesday and said it was

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Speaker 2: the most televised chain graban, Richard Sherman and Michael Crabtree.

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Speaker 2: This is the most televised one since two days ago,

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Speaker 2: or every one of those five pigs, mikel Bridges and look,

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Speaker 2: people are being like, if Boston hits their shot, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna win this series. Okay, great. Josh Hart was the

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Speaker 2: leading scorer last night. He had more points than og

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Speaker 2: Ananobi and Jalen Brunson combined. And the Knicks won. Please

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Speaker 2: stop acting like the Knicks are playing their best ball

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Speaker 2: right now. Last night was one of the worst games

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Speaker 2: I've seen them play, and they somehow won. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's going on. I am I am loving every

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Speaker 1: Though, Oh yeah, I'm sure you are certainly and that

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Speaker 1: now you're great.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm like seeing Knicks fans happy though, Like this

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Speaker 3: isn't like a happy Cowboys fan or a happy Eagles fan,

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Speaker 3: Like this is a happy fan base that you guys

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Speaker 3: deserve this, man, I'm actually happy that you and my

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Speaker 3: friends are happy right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh, because you know Cowboy fans like Cowboys have won

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Speaker 1: championships in my lifetime, I am. I am nearly half

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Speaker 1: a hundred, and I have not lived to see the

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Speaker 1: Knicks win a championship. I'm not won a title in

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Speaker 2: I've really started watching, like I remember like the Patrick

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Speaker 2: Ewing Knicks and stuff, but I really started watching like

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Speaker 2: right after two thousand so since i've been like an

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Speaker 2: Nick fans are there every night, the ticket price has

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I'm cheer for you, mostly because I just

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Speaker 1: don't want Boston sports teams to prosper. So I'm on

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Speaker 1: your appreciate. This is not an NBA Playoffs live stream,

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Speaker 1: No that it would be fun.

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Speaker 2: But the Knicks are the podcasts, the team of this podcast, right,

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Speaker 2: even though you're a Warriors guy.

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Speaker 1: Mark, Yeah, they're They're They're in a different conference, so

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, I'm fine with it. But they were

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Speaker 1: fantasy football talks and NFL football. A couple of news

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Speaker 1: headlines of note before we dive into our face fantasy

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Speaker 1: veteran winners and losers. Here. News that hit yesterday. These

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Speaker 1: Steelers have traded away George Pickens to the aforementioned Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: They got draft picks and stuff in return. The actual

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Speaker 1: a different show, not this one where we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the you know, the actual offense of of it and

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Speaker 1: the the expectations of it. So George Pickens leaves Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: which has to be kind and uncertain quarterback situation to

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Speaker 1: going to be when healthy, it is Dak Prescott. So, Lakwan, you,

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Speaker 1: being the George Pickens whisperer on this show, how far

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Speaker 1: should he move up draft boards?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just made that up.

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Speaker 2: When did that happen?

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Speaker 1: I literally just made that up on the fly. How

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Speaker 1: far should he move up draft boards? Though? Now that

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Speaker 3: So before the trade, like on Sunday, I was doing

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Speaker 3: So like if with this trade and expectations of this

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be a heavy, heavy wide receiver like

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Speaker 3: so I could see him like as a guy, like

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Speaker 3: if you need a solid wide receiver too, you could

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Speaker 3: bank on Dak Prescott healthy to go out there and

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Speaker 3: Dak in his last couple of years, since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: he's been a guy to have just as many thirty

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Speaker 3: plus touchdowns as a Patrick Mahomes, as a Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: Dak is slinging that rock and all we need from

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Speaker 3: George Pickens really it's just a couple of deep balls

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Speaker 3: because when we look at his best season, which was

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Speaker 3: so where Cedee Lamb can still exist as that number

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Speaker 3: everything else. So I'm looking at, you know, George Pickens

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Speaker 1: So I mean that sort of sounds like Florida, Like

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Speaker 1: it's kind of same as it ever was, right, because

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Speaker 1: wasn't he basically just a wide receiver too in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: the outlook doesn't really change, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it stays pretty similar. I The only

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Speaker 2: difference is it's a huge QB upgrade. And the thing

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's last year, and they were actually better than

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Speaker 2: Dak was last season. But I think that was circumstantial.

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Speaker 2: Like I still to believe Dak is a pretty high

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Speaker 2: quality QB in the NFL. He just he now has

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Speaker 2: someone opposite of Ceedee Lamb who can win because last

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Speaker 2: that they used their assets to try to rebuild that

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Speaker 2: a winner here is Ceedee Lamb, because not only does

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Speaker 2: win outside. There's nothing he can't do. But where I

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Speaker 2: believe he's at his very best is in the slot.

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Speaker 2: And last season he got to do that on about

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is no doubt that he needed some help, right,

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Speaker 1: He needed somebody to take attention off of him, and

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Speaker 1: certainly George Pickens is going to be the guy to

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Speaker 1: It's back to Pittsburgh though, right they bring in DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf and I know there was some talk I guess

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Speaker 1: know Florida, you say Pickens going to Dallas helped ceed Lamb,

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf potentially in the sense of the fit was

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Speaker 2: is a better separator, Dickens is a better contested catch guy,

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Speaker 2: but they both are primarily out wide wide receivers who

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Speaker 2: Now there's more volume that is going to go DK's way.

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Speaker 2: Still got to see who the QB is. And I

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Speaker 2: still don't know if the Steelers are done here because

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Speaker 2: even let's say they bring in Aaron Rodgers, like they're

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Speaker 2: Like I think Keenan Allen would slide in perfectly as

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Speaker 2: from a real life standpoint, I'm like, your offense is

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Speaker 3: it's Arthur Smith. This is literally the Falcons offense all

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a run heavy offense. And what

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's interesting to hear you turn a corner

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Speaker 2: Nobody lives.

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Speaker 1: There's just there's nothing exciting about the Steelers offense. And

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Speaker 1: I think I think the argument for DK Metcalf is

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Speaker 3: Even when we did our mock, wide receivers were flying

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Speaker 3: But DK's not one of them, then I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: On Yeah, that's kind of where I am too.

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Speaker 2: So top twenty wide receiver in points per game once

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Speaker 2: like one, he never this is the cheapest he's been

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Speaker 2: the hype was there for him. It's always so boom

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Speaker 2: new BOC and stuff to suck me in. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I for years I was Tyler Lockett over DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if I'm ever going to draft

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Speaker 1: We don't we don't need Aaron Rodgers to I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I'm that way, Like I'm sick of

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Speaker 3: After he signs, that's when we'll react. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I he only makes them marginally better. I think

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Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, he's better than Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: Like at least we can have some touchdowns on the table,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy hasn't started more than eight games

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Speaker 2: You're debating between Aaron Rodgers and the one starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: and now you're you're giving him a wide receiver who's

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Speaker 1: By the way, being better than Mason Rudolph is like

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Speaker 2: Hot takes. They might perform better with Mason.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look how they won more games with that wil

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Speaker 1: Just one more games with Zach Wilson they did with

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Speaker 2: That is true. They made the Steelers made the playoffs

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Speaker 3: To you, true, so true, so but a season long thing.

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Speaker 3: I think it was only five games he played.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he played him in the end. But

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Speaker 2: the playoff game and people were like, see, like.

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Speaker 3: I have the best friend back home who's a Steelers fan,

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Speaker 3: and like he's part of that crowd, Like he's okay

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Speaker 3: with Mason Rudolph, Like he looked me dead in my

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Speaker 2: From Mason Rudolph, I'm like, are you serious right now? Like,

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Speaker 2: to be fair, they made no matter who the QB

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Speaker 2: They're like, we did it with Kenny Pickett, we could

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Speaker 3: I guess man, it's real crazy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Sure, I don't agree, but I'm just saying I

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Speaker 1: So one of the comments from Fantasy's Finest Thing, I

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Speaker 1: need Kirk Cousins traded to the Steelers for the sake

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Speaker 2: Sure, he's your QB eight man.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of Dynasty, we talked about the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: who bad news for Jonathan Brooks. He is on the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I mean, lakwan at this point, if

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Speaker 1: He just can't seem to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 3: I think you were ready to move on after we

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Speaker 2: But it's just one of those sad stories. Man.

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Speaker 3: He never got off the ground. You know, we never

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Speaker 3: the hype coming out of college. But it's just one

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Speaker 3: if you want to play this game, to hold on,

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Speaker 3: like now, we'll wait until he bounces back in twenty six,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven, You're you're gonna be looking in the past.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna swerve off the road, and your dynasty league

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Speaker 3: is gonna look terrible. You're not gonna win any game.

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Speaker 3: So I think now it's the time to strike, To

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Speaker 2: You know, if he gets an opportunity, he may be good.

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Speaker 3: But I just feel as though, like it's it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's unfortunate. Man, he's a kid with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving up. See sell it to Florio. What

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Speaker 2: if I could get him for real, cheat, I'm willing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I guess you know. The upside

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Speaker 1: So if you have the space and it's worth, you know,

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Speaker 1: But is Julian Edelman in this instance? Is he a

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Speaker 2: And I'll look, these are some people who have more

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like he's he's a good player who was

437
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: propped up by one of the best to ever do it.

438
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 2: But no, he's not getting in my fantasy Hall of Fame,

439
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 2: no way.

440
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm looking. I'm looking at it right now too.

441
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 1: Like the run was relatively short and the high the

442
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: highs were not very high, right, I mean his career

443
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: high in yards for a season and seventeen seven touchdowns

444
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: was a career high. He also is one of those

445
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: guys who, if you like me, are against full point PPR.

446
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: He's one of the people who radicalized you against it, right,

447
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean you know, I mean this guy one hundred.

448
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at twenty thirteen one hundred and five, which

449
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: is for one thousand and fifty six yards just slightly

450
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 1: over at sen yards to catch.

451
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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I like to make the debate because I

452
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: think you guys made a gesture before when I said

453
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 3: this that Cooper Cup should be in the Fantasy Football

454
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and in the Hall of Fame in

455
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: general in real life.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is a stronger case than you guys

457
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: have a strong case in Edelman.

458
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 3: I just want to check the temperature because I thought

459
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: we were going to come on here and get crazy,

460
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, Julian Edelman had his moments and had

461
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 3: his highs and wide receiver seven and twenty nineteen. I

462
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: thought we were gonna put him in there, sneak him

463
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: in there.

464
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna draw back, no, you guys.

465
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's got more touchdowns than Edelman, He's

466
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: got more receiving yards than Edelman. He's got a stronger

467
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: case than Edelman for both fantasy. Like I'm not I'm

468
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: not putting him many. I'm not giving him a gold

469
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: jacket yet, but I'm telling you his case is stronger

470
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: than Edelman's, said the Falan Fronder the pod.

471
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: Adam Thielen has like fifteen hundred more career yards than Julian.

472
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: Edelmans I put him in my notes, So I was like,

473
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm a rather have Adam Thielen in there, man, because,

474
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 3: like I think Julian Edeman was a good player at

475
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: the time, Like of course he was propped up by

476
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, but like he's he was like a top

477
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: twenty wide receiver at best, you know what I mean,

478
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: most of his career at these peaks, like I don't.

479
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, you know, it's just like I just

480
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, when I first saw the headline, I'm like, oh,

481
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: I wonder right, because you know, there were moments, there

482
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Speaker 1: are times where it's like, yeah, you wanted Julian Edelman,

483
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: you wanted him in your starting lineup. But I think

484
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: when you step back and you kind of look at it,

485
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, no, no, I don't think.

486
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: He has five hundred more career yards than Tyler Boyd.

487
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: Only thirty six touchdowns in his career, and he wasn't

488
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: really a full time starter until his what's fifth season,

489
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he was kind of, you know,

490
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: a starter.

491
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: For all the hype that his playoff numbers get too.

492
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: He has five career playoff touchdowns.

493
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Speaker 1: He's just had. He just came up big and big

494
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: moments for them. That's what it was.

495
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: He had a three hundred and forty two yard game.

496
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: All the gas came from Boston in the Super Bowl

497
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: from the Patriots.

498
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: Wow, no, wait, that is not.

499
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: Is he the best like among like New England wide receivers, Like, no.

500
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: Randy Moss was. It was short lived, right, yeah, I

501
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: mean like the peak was insane for Randy Moss. But

502
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: he just wasn't there. I mean, he didn't win a

503
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: super Bowl. No, he did not. He did not because uh,

504
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: you know, Eli Manny in the helmet catch stopped him

505
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: from winning a Super Bowl. So yeah, it's.

506
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: All pros, Like, what are we what are we doing for.

507
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: Adam Wes Welker ahead of Edelmund?

508
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Welker, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman or Danny A. Mondola.

509
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: Dude, It's like it's like a Pokemon. Danny Ammidola is

510
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: the starter, then they evolve into Julian Edelman and the

511
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: third evolution is Wes Welker.

512
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, play like a an FMK with

513
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots slot receivers or something like that.

514
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, that's.

515
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: Mister Patriots. It's a claim Randy Moss. That's probably fair. No,

516
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: that's right fair. I mean Randy Moss to me is

517
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: always a Viking. He's a Viking.

518
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: Welker had five seasons with over one thousand yards and

519
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: he had a fifteen hundred yard season. Yeah that's crazy.

520
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So all right, so we are we are

521
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: I think we were all decided that Julian Edelman is

522
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: not a fantasy Hall of Famer.

523
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, Julian Edelman, you were just mine in your own

524
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: business and we kind.

525
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: Of piled up.

526
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it just sort of happened. Anyway, the

527
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: main topic of today show now that we are, you know,

528
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes into it, I was talk about Fantasy

529
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: veteran winners and losers from the dress. You know how this,

530
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: you know how the cheat sheet goes. It's just it's

531
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of chaos, Fantasy veteran winners and losers.

532
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: We each picked one winner, one loser. Lakwan Els your

533
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: your winner because your winner is a guy that I

534
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: did have on my list. He's not the one that

535
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: I ultimately picked, but he was on my list. So yeah,

536
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: who's your winner?

537
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baker Mayfield. Man.

538
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he got all his weapons back plus one.

539
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, well, this offense is still dangerous

540
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: and like when we look at the Bucks offense last season,

541
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: they were top five offense in scoring, so a lot

542
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: of touchdowns are going to be coming from this offense.

543
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: And having a Mecca Abuka as like the most lethal

544
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: debt piece that they can have on this offense. With

545
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: Jalen McMillan, Godwin, Mike Evans, etcetera, etcetera. It's like, if

546
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: any of these guys drop off or if there's injuries,

547
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: you have a guy that's ready to go fresh legs

548
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: that we know can perform and produce. So I think

549
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is set up for the future, at least

550
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: for the duration of his contract there to be one

551
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: of these top fantasy quarterbacks. I understand that Liam Cohen's

552
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: not on the sticks anymore, but when we look at

553
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: what Baker did last year, man.

554
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: Like he's just relentless.

555
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: He like I comp his toughness to Matthew Stafford, like,

556
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: and you look at how Tampa just opened armed and

557
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: kind of like we're just like, yeah, this is our

558
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 3: guy very quickly in the two seasons he's been there,

559
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: Baker set up to be like successful for a very

560
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: long time. So and like in those dynasty leagues, like

561
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm happy I'm looking at Baker Mayfield as like a

562
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: QB one. So it's definitely one of those situations like

563
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: you feel good about Baker on your rosters, and he

564
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: definitely came out of winner post draft.

565
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: It's so funn with the way we talk about Baker

566
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: Bayfield now you know, the Browns could have used the

567
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: guy like that.

568
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: Are even the Panthers the.

569
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Panthers at least, I feel like the Panthers, you know,

570
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: like we're still holding out hope for Bryce.

571
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: Ye listen, I was thinking about that when he came in.

572
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: I was like, if he just waited two more years

573
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: at the time line shifted to where right now we're

574
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: at the spot where we need a guy to rejuvenate

575
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: his career.

576
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: Baker would have been a perfect one man.

577
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always had that TNF game though, against the

578
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: against the Raiders, wear the sweating.

579
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to be I was a

580
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield fan the entire night.

581
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean literally, dude didn't even know where the lunch

582
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: room was and is out here slaying touchdown.

583
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Did even go to the facility? I don't want to

584
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: think like he didn't even Christmas down. I don't want

585
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: to be a hater here, but I don't think I'm

586
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, hmm Okay, it just seems

587
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: like a natural regression. Like he had the highest of

588
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: all qbs last year. His touchdown percentage was higher the

589
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: highest over career average to me forty one touchdowns when

590
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: he never had a thirty touchdown season. Seems like a

591
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: pretty big.

592
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Regression, all right. I think that's I think that's fair.

593
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: I longer thirty more touchdown then I.

594
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Do where were I would say that the argument in

595
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: favor of him, though, is at least the draft price

596
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: isn't ridiculous for Baker Mayfield, So I think I think

597
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: that can sort of counterbalance. I think some of that

598
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. If you do a loser right now, lakwantwu.

599
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh sure tank though, I mean this is real quick.

600
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: I just reel bad for him, Like, man, you got

601
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: Jalen Nole and Jayden Higgins there, and it's like, even

602
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: if he comes back, and like let's just say, these

603
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 3: two rookies are developing very well, not even killing it,

604
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: how do you fit him back in what's being formed

605
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: now in this offense with the Texans? And like this

606
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: injury was gruesome, Like I watched it just before like

607
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: prepping for the show. I'm like, yeah, I don't know

608
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: this guy comes back the same, Like it's gonna be

609
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: one of those situations like he's barely gonna be on

610
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: the field, Like what do we do? So like them

611
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: drafting two wide receivers from the same team from IOSA.

612
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: It kind of looks like they're ready to move the

613
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: chapter and kind of move on now rather than wait

614
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: later to take the band aid off and they miss

615
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: out on some good quality or else.

616
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: The Texans are really trying to sell some merchant, that big,

617
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: huge Ames Iowa market. You know, I just gotta kind

618
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: of brought it right. He just gotta make sure you

619
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: got it. You lock up the Ames. You know, the

620
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: Dodgers have locked up Japan with show Hey, and now

621
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: the Texan is trying to lock up Ames with Higgins.

622
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: And no, I don't even know what Ames is.

623
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: It is the home of.

624
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Iowa State University, where those time all right, Florida, you're

625
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: your winner and your loser.

626
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: My winner is Chase Brown, who was awesome last season.

627
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: And despite being awesome, it was like, are the Bengals

628
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: going to go out and add a running back this offseason?

629
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: And then he survived free agency and you're like, okay,

630
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: But the big thing was always the draft. It was

631
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: such a deep running back class. Could he come out

632
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: as the lead back there? And he did? Like I know,

633
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: they used to pick on on Taj Rooks. They signed

634
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: some j p Ryan Like, none of these to me

635
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: or moves that are like these guys are coming for

636
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: the starting gig. To me, these are our backup options. Guys.

637
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: You could you know, sprinkle in You're you're gonna have

638
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: to use other backs besides Chase Brown. He's not gonna

639
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: be a three hundred and fifty touch guy, but he's

640
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: going to lead plenty and again bigger than anything. I

641
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be on the field for a ton

642
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: of passing downs. So Chase Brown, who finished as an

643
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: RB one last year, uh, is someone I'm really excited about.

644
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: And then oh, I didn't want to pick him. But

645
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift is also a huge winner. But I had

646
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: a list of running backs that I was like, hopeful

647
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: would survive the draft, and on it was Jalen Warren,

648
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: and unfortunately he did not because Arthur Smith drafted in

649
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: his mind, Jon Robinson two point zero as we heard,

650
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: and he's.

651
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: Running a wild not the talent comp the situational man.

652
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: Geez No, But I do agree with you. I think

653
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: that Jalen Warren is locked into the role that he's

654
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: been locked into behind Nauji Harris. And the hope was

655
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: he could eventually free himself of nausey and run wild.

656
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: But now they have Caleb Johnson for the next four years,

657
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: so that that is unfortunately not going to happen for

658
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren and he is what he has been the

659
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: last few years. And RB three that I'll have some

660
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: nice weeks and some single digit weeks that you hate.

661
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: Starting that nice week is probably like twelve points. To

662
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: be honest, I don't.

663
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: Be interested in twelve points at your beak.

664
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it's a Fantasy finals. Who's asked Caleb Johnson,

665
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: he goes Jeon Robinson two point zero. You must have

666
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: missed the earlier part of our show here when Lakwhan

667
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: was trying to make a point about the Steelers offense

668
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: and using analogies for Arthur Smith and saying that Caleb

669
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: Johnson is Bejon tendency, basically saying he's gonna play the

670
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Jon Robinson role, not that he is Bjon Robbins.

671
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: But john was capped like we're sitting here like why

672
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: is he not getting.

673
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: In goal line carrier? I mean this might be you know, a.

674
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: Little different, hopefully for Kaleb Johnson, but that was very

675
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: frustrating to watch and see.

676
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: So does this mean.

677
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: James Warren starts vulturing touchdowns?

678
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: Does this mean Jaalen Warren is going to be the

679
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Algier of the Steelers offense?

680
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: Is that the I can see it happening because Algier

681
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: was catching more passes, running more routes for a period

682
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: of time than Bijon and then that's kind of swipped

683
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: over in the midute of the season. So like it

684
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: was just really just be Sean not getting red zone

685
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: carries or goal line carries. It was crazy. I mean,

686
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter had more than him at one point. It

687
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: was disgusting. Let's not do that again in Pittsburgh, please, Yeah.

688
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: The good thing is Aaron Rodgers is too old to

690
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: do that, and Jaylen Warren is too small, and John

691
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Smith isn't there either. Unfortunately, all right, he should, although

692
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: I will say outside of ul Q, Arthur Smith does

693
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: deserve some credit for that because we bashed him that

694
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: whole year and being like you're using John Smith over

695
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts and then he was proving he kind of

696
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: it didn't come out right.

697
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Where does Arthur Smith goes?

698
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: Jith fan behind LQ.

699
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: So there you go. There it is my my winners

700
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: and losing my winners. Caleb Williams one. He gets Ben Johnson,

701
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: who not only is a great play caller, but apparently

702
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: has a wicked slider. If you saw the first pitch

703
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: that he threw out, the first pitch he threw out

704
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: at the Cubs game, just just filthy movement apparently on

705
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: whatever he was throwing up there. But they also went

706
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: out and they added more pieces. Yes, they lose Keenan Allen,

707
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: who's getting up there in years. They draft uh Luther

708
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Burden in the second round. They draft Colston Loveland in

709
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: the first round. So it is apparent that Ben Johnson

710
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: has plans for them. Maybe they are going to take

711
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Loveland and try to make him a new Sam Laporta.

712
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they try to figure out some things with Burden,

713
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: put him in the slot and let him sort of

714
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: operate where Keenan Allen used to operate. But either way,

715
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean he went on and got a little bit

716
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: of offensive line help too in the so they are

717
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: really trying to build this thing in Chicago around a

718
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: quarterback that they believe can be their guy for years

719
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: to come. So I think Caleb Williams a big winner

720
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: and I think the expectations understandably are going to be

721
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: ratcheted up for him this year staying in the division

722
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: for my losers. It's I was like I was saying.

723
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I was like, is it Christian Watson? Is it Romeo Dobbs?

724
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, por those? Why not both? Here's saying.

725
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: We sat and we griped about the Matthew Golden draft pick, right,

726
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: and look, I guess it works out for Jordan Love

727
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: because he just has another guy to throw to, But

728
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: it does not work out for Watson or Dobbs, who

729
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: were sort of on the fringes to begin with, and

730
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: now they've got a battle even more for targets in

731
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: this offense. You know, Dobbs has been underwhelming. I think

732
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: through his entire career, Watson has just been so inconsistent,

733
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: so hit or miss, that it's just, you know, at

734
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: least for fantasy, it's really impossible to try and count

735
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: on him on a regular basis. And now he's at

736
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: the point where, like, I'm not even sure that he's

737
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: better in best ball, Like he just kind of is

738
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: sort of thing. So yeah, adding Matthew Golden to that

739
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: group does not help either one of those wide receivers,

740
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, you could throw Jayden Reid in there as well. Yeah,

741
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: although I still feel like, I mean, I don't think

742
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Jaden Reid is what we wanted him to be, But

743
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: it also still seems like he's the guy that they're

744
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: actually actively working to get the ball to.

745
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the one with the design plays. But then

746
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, so how does this work with

747
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: Matthew Golden If he's going to be a deep thread

748
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: intermediate threat and can also be a line of scrimmage

749
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: threat as well, So it's like he could do everything

750
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: almost better than Jayden Reid in a sense, he doesn't

751
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: really need to be designed, you know, Like I don't know,

752
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: I mean, the regression this season was crazy, Like I

753
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: was all in on Jayden reed to be like a

754
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: huge wide receiver three flex, but there were times where

755
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: he went on like four or five games weeks of

756
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: just not being even like startuble.

757
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: So it was just I'm kind of out now.

758
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: So it's like you adding another wide receiver in that room,

759
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: a high profile guy, like a guy that's going to

760
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: be able to contribute immediately. I don't see Jaden red

761
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: even being like usable at you know, mostly.

762
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: There is a usable packer wide receiver, Like I don't

763
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: think so as of right now, I'm not sure, but

764
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think this save on Williams

765
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: picking the third round gets overlooked because he's like a

766
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: receiver that you generate touches for.

767
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you already have a guy like that

768
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: and Jayden Reid, so like I agree with the comment

769
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: mister Scamper's winner, Jordan Love loser every other because I

770
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: don't think I want.

771
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: To talk about I mean, is he gonna get more

772
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: involved because he's a yak guy, so I would think

773
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: like he would have to be like somewhat in the

774
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: game plane.

775
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I.

776
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: Don't think I'm drafting any package.

777
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like sure every time you every time

778
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: you get excited about Tucker Kraft, then like here comes

779
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave showing up too, right, so like make your

780
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: life miserable again. Like what I do think is funny.

781
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that during the Aaron Rodgers era,

782
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: they spend a lot of time in a lot of

783
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: draft capital on offensive linemen and they never drafted wide receivers.

784
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: Now with Jordan Love, they're getting all these wide receivers

785
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: that are not getting any.

786
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: O line help, like they can't stop.

787
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: It's okay to balance things out, packers, Like you don't

788
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: have to do all of one thing. It's like it's

789
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: like watching my kid eat all of one thing on

790
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: his plate before moving to the next. It's like, no, man,

791
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: you can take bites of like different things all at

792
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: the same time. Like it's fine. Yeah, I used to do.

793
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: He'll eat all all of the apples, and then he'll

794
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: eat all of the sandwich, and then he'll eat all

795
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: of the Cheetos. Like I'm like, you can you can

796
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: take a bite of each bite each man, Like it's fine,

797
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah for you. A couple other things, uh

798
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: some some chatter in the chat about uh some of

799
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: the the winners and losers, Matt Carmody saying Tracy could

800
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: be a loser with the scatman in New York and

801
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: uh scot Man, Yeah, Fantasy's Finest, also agreeing with that

802
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: that the Scataboo could make life hard for Tyrone Tracy,

803
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: which yeah, I mean I could definitely see that. It's

804
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: just frustrats. I don't know that either one. I don't

805
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: know that either one. Of them is good enough alone

806
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: to be sharing, Like I think, for them to be relevant,

807
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: one of them has to take the lead. But you

808
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: might be right that they probably are gonna split opportunities

809
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be really frustrating. I think for all

810
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: of us.

811
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: If Scott hits the ground running early and like the

812
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: media jumps on it and then the fans jump on it,

813
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: and he.

814
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: Does seem like a guy who could like be a

815
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: fan favorite in New York.

816
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: He's already.

817
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean, look Kyle Brandt on Good Morning Football every

818
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: single day. Scataboo, scataboo, scat for every topic. His name

819
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: was in everything that.

820
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: It's also fun. It's also just fun to say scataboocatboo, scataboo,

821
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: like it sounds like something Adam Sander would say, like

822
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: it was just.

823
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Like it really does. I hope they get him to

824
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: say it, geta boo.

825
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: He can say it in his Adam Sanders voice for sure.

826
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: All Right, we should talk about this this the film festival.

827
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: We need to come up with a we should go

828
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: with a category. I know you said havoc is one

829
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: you you suspected, So I'm I'm thinking maybe we just

830
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: do Netflix Action movies.

831
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that because.

832
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: Like none of them are like, none of them are

833
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: super great and some of them could border on terrible.

834
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Like it just seems like a really interesting mix, like

835
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: and like the way, you know, the way Netflix works,

836
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: once you watch one of them, it's just gonna start

837
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: feeding you all of them in the algorithm. So yeah,

838
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: so maybe we just do Netflix action movies. Gavin suggesting Extraction.

839
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: I think I started Extraction and is that Uh, yes,

840
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: I believe that is uh that is one of the

841
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: hymns Worth Kids, And I think they actually made a

842
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: second one. I think there's a sequel. Oh apparently, as

843
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I do a quick google, there's three of them.

844
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: So I've never heard of anything.

845
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: I think I started like it was like I had

846
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: it on on a Saturday afternoon and I wasn't fully

847
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: paying attention. I'm not sure if I finished it, but.

848
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently.

849
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: There's a third one, and I don't think it has

850
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: been released yet. It's supposed to come out late twenty

851
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: twenty five, but there are two of them currently on Netflix.

852
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: You guys are so much braver than me, are just

853
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: picking random movies watch like I had.

854
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 3: We watched R R r and that was a long

855
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: dope if it doesn't get recommended me, I'm not that

856
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: one was dope.

857
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, like if I just see a random movie

858
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: and if I've never heard of it, I'm like, all right, movie.

859
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how I landed on Extraction other than

860
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: I think I saw a bunch of billboards for it

861
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: or something like that. I was like, you give it

862
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: a shot. So uh, but you haven't saying the extraction

863
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: films are good, So all right, I'm down. Hey, all right,

864
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: I guess we'll start. We'll start with Havoc because that's

865
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: the one that Lakwan suggested. So next Thursday we can

866
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: talk Havoc on this show.

867
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: If anybody's seeing that, you know, the chaos that we're

868
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: talking about, Like there was like at least nine thousand

869
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: rounds of AMMO used in that movie, and then there

870
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: was like twenty three thousand bodies, Like it's just like,

871
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: what the heck is going on?

872
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Does anybody punch a tiger?

873
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: Ooh?

874
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 4: Are now?

875
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: Are somebody punched the tiger or or the horse?

876
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: On the brands for this time next year where we're like,

877
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: all right, we're starting off the film festival with Netflix's

878
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: very owned one hundred man versus one gorilla. Yes, like

879
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: that's what it's gonna be. So we're gonna do game

880
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: shows as a theme.

881
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: I love that they're gonna make.

882
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: It an action movie somehow somewhat. But would you do

883
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: it with protective medieval gear?

884
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: Like I saw something online where they're like, if you

885
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: do it with safety perfec, that's not fair. Go out

886
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: there and fight, it's not fair, like you're trying to

887
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 3: fight the No, because if you're because if you're bringing

888
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: one hundred ninety nine other guys with you, then you know, like, no,

889
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: then you don't.

890
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: Get to have gear Like that's unfair. No, because at

891
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: the old point, one hundred are supposed to beat a

892
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: gorilla and you don't gets to have weapons. That's no fair.

893
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: Armor at least armor, and then you and your ninety

894
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: nine friends to go and take out King Kong or whatever. No.

895
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Stop, I mean we're talking to a man who thinks

896
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: he could be a king, could beat up a king.

897
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I have the lateral speed and the

898
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: surprise at all.

899
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: Right, we need to get a kangaroo expert on and

900
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: have him break this down. Yeah, look, I'm not the

901
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: only one who think they could beat a kangaroo.

902
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: Tyler Booker, the offensive lineman for the Cowboys, he thinks,

903
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: so people think that didn't make him true.

904
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: Okay, but Tyler Booker is six foot five and probably

905
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: three hundred and something pounds. I'm not saying he can win,

906
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: but he's got at least a reason to think he.

907
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: Could for sure. Man. By the way, before we leave.

908
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: I would pay money to see you try.

909
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: With protective gear because I've seen the nails that that's

910
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: the scariest, most frightening thing on a kangaroo. I ain't

911
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: worried about.

912
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Anything, right until he raises up on that tail and

913
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: puts his feet through your chest.

914
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, with those back legs.

915
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: All right, this has really gone off the rails here

916
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: at the end. My last thing, the last thing I'm

917
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna say before we get out of here is Gareth Evans,

918
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: who I believe directed, at least produced Havoc, also is

919
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: the writer of The Raid Redemption.

920
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: So that was going to be the surprise. I didn't

921
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: want to actually think.

922
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: He was the director of the raid. So all right,

923
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: so I'm in. I'm in because the Raid redemptions that

924
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: how we got recommended for you.

925
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: No, I random fredit Friday night and I was like,

926
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: I keep seeing this on the timeline, so I'm gonna

927
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: watch it. Like it was actually off a Blue Sky

928
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: and I watched it. I'm like, I can see why.

929
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: This is like a nostalgic nineties action. We like all

930
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: the elements, like I'm talking slow motion shooting and then

931
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: the overkills and then the crazy.

932
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: We get John wo doves flying somewhere.

933
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: It's it's ashes, fire and bullets casings that if that

934
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: that will.

935
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: Be that cool?

936
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: Before we go Michael Quinzel and the Chad Axe, name

937
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: a player that resembles all of these Netflix.

938
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so that'll be the thing. We'll watch the movie.

939
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: We'll watch the movie, and then we'll come up with

940
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: a player that fits the movie that we could see

941
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: in one of these gas like that. I like that.

942
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: Who's a player that's like, oh yeah, no, he could

943
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: have been in this movie or whatever. So that'll be

944
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: the thing. All right, cool? I like it.

945
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I like it again.

946
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: I got my thanks everybody for checking us out hanging

947
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: out with us here on the cheats. You will be

948
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: back with you of course next Thursday. Rgulary the regular

949
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: Pod on Tuesday as well. I don't know, we're gonna

950
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: talk about maybe the Knicks, who knows. We'll figure. One

951
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: last look at Ai Florida celebrating the next win, the

952
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: next going up to to oh Over the Celtics. Uh.

953
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: In the meantime, enjoy the weekend, everybody. We will talk

954
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: to you again here next week.