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Speaker 1: Gasoline Alley.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back ron Any and the car Doctor cruising

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Speaker 2: along this hour as we look out across America today

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Speaker 2: down here in Gasoline Alley, mister Ron Ross, Simon k Performance, How.

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Speaker 1: Are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing? Find yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: I tell you I.

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Speaker 2: Can't complain, Ron, I got through the month and here

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Speaker 2: we are at the end and getting closer and closer

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Speaker 2: to firing up Black two and you know, away we go.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what the next couple of week springs. But

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of predicting by Thanksgiving we should hear some

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Speaker 2: loud noise coming.

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Speaker 1: From Waldwick, New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, and it won't just be me complaining. Racing

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Speaker 2: year real quick, little wind up, a little wind down,

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Speaker 2: whichever way you want to look at it. How did

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Speaker 2: you finish, How do you think the season went for you?

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Speaker 1: And what can you do next year to make it better?

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Speaker 3: You know, we really started out with a goal this

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Speaker 3: year to try and get ourselves in the top ten

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Speaker 3: of the points in the northeastern part of the country here,

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Speaker 3: and we managed to accomplish that. Fortunately, we've had a

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Speaker 3: very good finish and we ended up number five in

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Speaker 3: the points in the Northeast and there's only one way

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Speaker 3: to go from there to better for next year. But boy,

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Speaker 3: would really like to knock down the championship.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you want to, if you want

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Speaker 2: to take a lesson from baseball, if you finished halfway

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Speaker 2: to your goal, you're entitled to nine million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I wish it was that easy.

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Speaker 2: That's what Joe Girardi's getting for bringing the Yankees in.

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Speaker 2: You know, two steps shy of.

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Speaker 1: The World Series.

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Speaker 2: So you know what, tell your boss you want you want,

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Speaker 2: tell them you'll take three million, You'll take a third

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't be greedy. That would be fine for

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Speaker 3: doing what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: I just just want to let you know that that's

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Speaker 2: a possibility. You had a car this week in the

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Speaker 2: shop sixty what was it, sixty six sixty the commet

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Speaker 2: with the two fours, so.

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Speaker 3: That as cool as it gets, it was a sixty

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Speaker 3: seven Mercury Cyclone.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was, okay, with a.

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Speaker 3: Four to twenty seven two four four speed set up

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Speaker 3: and a really awesome car.

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Speaker 2: Now was that actory car at the time?

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a factory three ninety car, which

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Speaker 3: is the same series of engine as the four to

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Speaker 3: twenty seven. But it it's just so unusual. See, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how many shows like yourself I've been to

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Speaker 3: over the years. I don't think I've ever seen a

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Speaker 3: sixty seven comment with a four to twenty seven. Was

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Speaker 3: that a.

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Speaker 2: Available factory as a four twenty seven to two four

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Speaker 3: Though I don't know about two four barrel I do

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Speaker 3: know that I think they made only sixteen of them

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Speaker 3: with the original four to twenty seven. The three ninety

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Speaker 3: was the popular upgrade, And I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: exists anymore, but a short camp many.

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Speaker 2: So if we kind of take a flashback to segue

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Speaker 2: into our next moment, if we take a flashback and

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Speaker 2: look at that sixty seven comment and that big block,

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Speaker 2: whether it was the three ninety of the four to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, what do you think that, other than the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's a neat old car, it's a hot rod,

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Speaker 2: it's a muscle car, et cetera, what do you think

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Speaker 2: that has contributed to the industry in society as a whole,

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Speaker 2: anything other than just being loud and noisy.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean, it's the resurgence of the muscle

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Speaker 3: car and the restoration. You know, if any old project

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Speaker 3: you can see by the shows, that really enjoy their

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Speaker 2: Do you think that they, you know, then as now

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Speaker 2: used hot rods and muscle cars as sort of test mules.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had to call around a little bit

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Speaker 2: ago Ian from Brooklyn, our bus driver out there that

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Speaker 2: calls in from time to time, and as he pointed

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Speaker 2: out that a lot of the R and D you know,

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Speaker 2: where the muscle cars of today are where passenger cars

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Speaker 2: are really what the factories learned in the street building

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, and they do test that a lot, and

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Speaker 3: it brings a little bit more to the table than

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Speaker 3: they think everybody realizes. And honestly, I think we touched

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Speaker 3: we also discussed how much safety out of the racing

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Speaker 3: and muscle cars and that came to be in the irregular,

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Speaker 2: And that's a good point because when you just to

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Speaker 2: repeat that. It wasn't that the safety in the passenger

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Speaker 2: car went into the race car. It went from the

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Speaker 2: race car the hot rod to the passenger car.

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Speaker 3: Right, actually went the other way, and it created that,

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Speaker 3: I guess for the guinea pigs.

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Speaker 2: So and you're still not making three million a year

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Speaker 2: now at all, So you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I'm trying to think I had to ask this question.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say it direct. If they banned hot rotting,

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Speaker 2: that's it. No more classic cars from the twenties and earlier,

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Speaker 2: No more muscle cars, no more cars from the forties

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Speaker 2: and fifties. Bring everything to the crusher, get rid of

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Speaker 2: it all in the interest of the planet. What sort

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Speaker 2: of an economic impact does that have on the country.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I think it would have a little bigger economic

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Speaker 3: impact than everybody realizes, because it's not just the performance

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Speaker 3: engine industry that gets affected, but there you have everybody

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Speaker 3: from tire manufacturer's paint supply, the glass upholstery. It really

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Speaker 3: does trickle down. And I guess the hardest part for

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Speaker 3: me to fathom is that being that were you know,

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Speaker 3: less than a fraction of a percent of anything out there.

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Speaker 3: Even if they did get rid of all of that,

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Speaker 3: which of course, would crush all our hearts. I don't

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Speaker 3: in anything. It's such a small deal. I think there's

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Speaker 3: other places to look, but get rid of a lot

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Speaker 3: of jobs.

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Speaker 1: I know that dollar wise.

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Speaker 2: Oh I mean, is the automotive aftermarket, the performance side

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Speaker 2: a billion dollar industry?

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Speaker 3: You know it is. It's hard to believe, but when

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Speaker 3: it is, it's really a lot bigger than we all

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Speaker 3: give it credit for. Now it is a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Now, imagine, as I pointed out in my opening monologue,

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Speaker 2: that you woke up one Sunday and turned on TV

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Speaker 2: instead of listening to the Car Doctor, which I couldn't understand.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That one makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And no more NASCAR, no more NHR, no more racing

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, what.

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Speaker 1: Would it do?

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Speaker 3: It would drive a lot of taxes up in the area,

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Speaker 3: especially where the tracks are located. I mean, I can't imagine,

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Speaker 3: And being a drag racer, I look at NASCAR and say,

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine two hundred and fifty thousand fans coming

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Speaker 3: T shirt, the cup, and all the companies that make those.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you calculate that, but that'd be

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Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this thought and question, sue or false?

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Speaker 2: Can an automotive hot rod? Can a hot rod be

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Speaker 2: built to have power performance and meet emission levels under

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Speaker 2: today's standards.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say true.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, next week we want to maybe we'll talk

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to put her on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Vegas is on the show today, Dipstick is out okay,

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Speaker 2: and Vegas is gonna be here with us next week.

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Speaker 2: So next week we're going to bring back Automotive Jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, And Vegas has been studying real hard. She

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Speaker 2: was kind of badgering me before. At the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the show. She says, I want to do Automotive Jeopardy

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Speaker 2: with Ron Ross. So we're gonna We're gonna give her

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Speaker 2: shot next week at Fame and Fortune, once again and

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Speaker 2: see if she can hustle you the way she hustles

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Speaker 2: the pool players out in Vegas when she's out there

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Speaker 2: playing pool.

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Speaker 3: All right, kitto, no problem, I will study up. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure I'm up to the task. But I know she

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Speaker 3: have my work cut out.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna, we're gonna do it. And she wants to

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Speaker 2: do Automotive Jeopardy Wildcard, which means she's gonna think of

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Speaker 2: and I'll kind of be the monitor in between.

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Speaker 3: Even better, I'm ready. Hopefully some readers, maybe if you

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Speaker 3: can give out the email, send in the question if

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Speaker 3: you're think it's really good, let's get it out there.

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Speaker 1: There you go, let's do that. How about we'll leave

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Speaker 1: it up to the listeners.

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Speaker 2: If anybody out there, send us an email at info

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Speaker 2: at Ari Auto dot com and we'll kind of take

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Speaker 2: some automotive Jeopardy questions from that.

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Speaker 1: Mister Ross, I will talk to.

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Speaker 3: You during the week, sir, Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You too, care Bye, bye, I'm running any of the

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Speaker 2: card doctor. We're back right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back running any in the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: Here, Let's get over to Richard Queens, New York. Hey, Richard,

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Speaker 2: you're not with the card doctor. How can I help you? Sir?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Oh, let's speak to you the question for you.

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Speaker 4: Recently purchased four new tires for my car, and aside

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Speaker 4: from a missing humpcap, when I got back home, I

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Speaker 4: looked in the back and I noticed that the rear

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Speaker 4: rims had no weights on it. And I'm just wondering

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Speaker 4: if it means that they didn't balance, and balancing is

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Speaker 4: supposed to be included in the price. So is that

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Speaker 4: an assumption that's incorrect? Or should I follow up?

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Speaker 1: Is which an assumption is incorrect that it's included in

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Speaker 4: Or the no? No, that that they did the balance?

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Speaker 4: The front has it two front wheels right back on

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Speaker 4: the rim. I don't see anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, did they balance? Did they do high

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Speaker 2: speed balance? So there's weights on the inside and the

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Speaker 2: outside of the room. Did you look on the inside

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Speaker 2: of the room.

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Speaker 4: That's not the one I want to ask you. I

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Speaker 4: have to cycle and look, crawl and Nate look on

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Speaker 4: the inside. There is that hostility?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, I mean the real answer here

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Speaker 2: is I'm kind of surprised that. Listen, let me say

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Speaker 2: it like this. If we did four tires at the

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Speaker 2: shop and the back the both back tires happened to

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Speaker 2: not have any weights on them at all, there'd be

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Speaker 2: a big red flag on the ticket. Just note the

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Speaker 2: customer wheels were balanced, no weights. The rims are perfect,

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Speaker 2: The tires are perfect, all right, because it kind of

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Speaker 2: is unusual to have two rims on an older vehicle

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Speaker 2: eighteen years old, eighteen years old, bouncing around New York

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Speaker 4: Okay, but you noticeable and driving it? Would it be

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Speaker 2: Or is it just you wouldn't necessarily notice it around

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Speaker 2: because most of the vibration, most of the vibrational effects

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Speaker 1: You know, listen, it's a ninety two Dodge Cult. The

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Speaker 2: Car wasn't the greatest when it was new, correct, It's

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Speaker 2: probably has a little bit of vibration in it to

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Speaker 2: use a big word here, the sub microscopic vibration, which

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Speaker 2: is akin to the Volkswagen used in Woody Allen's Bananas

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Speaker 2: is would be the fact that how can I say it,

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Speaker 2: wear out prematurely or start to chopping feather and have

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Speaker 2: other bed characteristic symptoms of incorrect balancing. Bottom line, did

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Speaker 2: you pay for balancing on four tires?

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Speaker 4: Yes, he told me when I perched them at the

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Speaker 2: Okay, then it's time to go back and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: Fred or whatever his name was, I pay for balancing

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Speaker 2: on four tires. I don't think the backs were balanced,

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Speaker 2: done or be can you pull one off and recheck

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Speaker 2: the balance?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I lost the weight along.

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Speaker 2: With the hubcap that fell off from the last time

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Speaker 2: I was here. Now, if you say that to the

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Speaker 2: doesn't care, Richard, and you have to find someplace else

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Speaker 2: these guys are definitely not on the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: Frank in Madison, Connecticut, how are you, Frank?

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Speaker 5: Frank taking my call?

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Speaker 2: You're welcome, sir.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Well, Ron, I've got an old three Cadillac four door

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Speaker 5: sounds like a diesel when it starts up in the morning, okay.

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Speaker 5: And I brought it to the dealer and he said

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Speaker 5: it's cold start knock is due to carbon build up.

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Speaker 5: So he gave me a bulletin from from General Motors

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Speaker 5: and then the service bulletin it says the only the

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Speaker 5: first thing they try to do is they tried some

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Speaker 5: kind of a cleaning job where the correct Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: they say right in the bulletin, this doesn't work. And

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Speaker 5: they said the only true correction for this is to

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Speaker 5: replace all the pistons with high dome pistons. Okay, does

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Speaker 5: that sound reasonable to you?

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Speaker 2: But here's my well, is it high dome pistons or

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Speaker 5: Piston that I'm not sure?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm familiar with this bulletin. Frank, I've heard of this, gad.

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Speaker 1: Your question to me is my.

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Speaker 5: Question is the car's got fifty thousand miles on it, right?

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Speaker 5: We don't put a lot of miles via my life.

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Speaker 5: I don't drive because I'm blind, but my wife dries right,

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Speaker 5: And I love my car, I really do. I waited

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Speaker 5: he's sixty five, to buy this car, and I really

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Speaker 5: like it. But the guarantee is going to be up January, right,

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Speaker 5: So if I have it, I'm not even sure I

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Speaker 5: at it to go there.

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Speaker 1: So let them do their job.

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Speaker 2: Let them bring a factory manager out, let them approve

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Speaker 2: it and get the pistons done. Is that your question?

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Speaker 1: Is it worth?

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Speaker 5: My question to you is should I go ahead? If

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Speaker 5: Or say leave it alone?

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Speaker 2: If you went to the doctor, Frank, yes, and he

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Speaker 2: told you that your cholesterol was a little too high

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Speaker 2: and it might take God forbid two or three years

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Speaker 5: I'd be on a pill in a minute.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you love this car, You enjoy the car,

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Speaker 2: You want to keep it as long as you can. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to have to.

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Speaker 1: Buy a car.

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Speaker 2: If they don't have to if it's not on your dime,

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Speaker 5: Well, we had a little trouble overun because I'm actually

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Speaker 5: from Springfield, Massachusetts, and they closed all the Cadillac dealers, right,

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Speaker 5: so now I got to go about forty miles into

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that that's a problem. My bigger

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Speaker 2: concern is that if it's you know, if it has

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Speaker 2: this is going to come back to bite you, not now,

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Speaker 2: but maybe three years from now. And if you're planning

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Speaker 2: a simple enough thing to me. It's it's it's here's

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Speaker 2: the here's the problem, here's the fix, it's somebody else's nickel.

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Speaker 2: You won't have the car for a couple of days

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Speaker 2: a week, whatever, Right, I get it done. I think

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Speaker 2: it's I think you're foolish not to. I really do.

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Speaker 5: One other thing that does run, and it doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: How often are you doing the oil changes. Well, you

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Speaker 2: know what factory standard and industry standard is a quart

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Speaker 2: It would be formed as carbon. And guess what when

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Speaker 2: they redo the pistons, chances are they're going to clean

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Speaker 2: that service, and you may kill two birds with one stone.

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Speaker 2: Card Doctor's back, don't drive away, hey.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, run on any in the car, doctor.

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Speaker 2: You know, with regards to the banning of rotting that

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Speaker 2: to ban that part of the industry, to eliminate the

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Speaker 2: hot rod, the leisure, the social, the economic impacts so deep,

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Speaker 2: so huge. It makes me think that the politicians are

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Speaker 2: overextending their bounds and either there's something more deeply rooted

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Speaker 2: of the important problems that are facing this country of ours.

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Speaker 2: Homardinny in the cardocket,