1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: Let's go. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Let's giants out on the Giants bubbling, give me some 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: join part of the Giants podcast Network, Let's roll. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, The 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: Baldies Breakdown Edition, brought to you by citizens Official Bank 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: of the Giants. I'm coming to you live from the 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: Hackensack and Marine Hill Podcast. Do you Keep Getting Better? 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: Joined by the one and only Brian Boldinger. This is 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: not NFL Films. You're at Baldy. Are you on the 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: West Coast? Where you're at? 12 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 13 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: I did the Rams game yesterday, Rams Colt, So I'm 14 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 4: here at the NFL Network. 15 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: So I'm over here up on the third floor. 16 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 4: Got an office over here, so I was just breaking 17 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: everything down over here today. But yeah, I'm out here 18 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 4: on the West Coast. But I felt like, honestly, John 19 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: that I could feel the energy of MetLife Stadium all 20 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 4: the way here just watching that and seeing the opening 21 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: drive and the whole thing. I mean, it was what 22 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: fans have been craving for a long. 23 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: Time, all right, So let's not bury the bury the 24 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: lead here, and that's Jackson Dart and the way I 25 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: kind of referred to a match to the game yesterday. Baldy, 26 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: he was a playmaker, right whatever he needed to do, 27 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: whether it was running the ball, scrambling, stepping up in 28 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: the pocket and then completing a pass, this little rollout 29 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: where he kind of told Darius Layton come back to 30 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: the ball. He completes that pass. You know, there wasn't 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: a ton of exactly not a ton of you know, 32 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: drop back foot lands, ball out quickly, but that was 33 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: okay as a rookie. 34 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna get better at that. 35 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: But he just made enough plays, especially on big spots 36 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: on third downs, for the Giants to score enough points 37 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: to win this game. 38 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 4: He uh, he plays with a great deal of awareness. 39 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: He didn't turn the ball over John. You know, this 40 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: is a team that had been taking the ball away. 41 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: He didn't give him anything. And the opening drive was 42 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: just perfection. But it was a mix of Okay, he's 43 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: a very good runner. He's not a guy that's just 44 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: like maybe he's too aggressive. Maybe that has to sort 45 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: of change a little bit. But you know, the touchdown 46 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: run and the lead block by Scataboo, and you know, 47 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: to finishing that drive, I just thought, you know, when 48 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: he had to throw the ball over the middle, you know, 49 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: whether it was to Fiel or to neighbors. When he 50 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: was healthy, he stepped up and made those throws. And 51 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 4: he doesn't lack confidence for making those dangerous throws in 52 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: the middle of the field against a very talented defense. 53 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: And look, we talked about on our pregame show with 54 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: Tiki Barber, who does our pregames with this over here, Baldy. 55 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: And look, we tried to be very clear with giant fans, 56 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: this quarterback is not going to come in here, especially 57 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: your rookie and be er savior. Right, You're gonna have 58 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: to support him. And you brought it up on that 59 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: first drive. On that first drive ball he went down and. 60 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: They drove it. You know, I think it was seventy 61 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: five yards on nine plays. 62 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Nine yards. 63 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had two completions for twenty one yards. 64 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Do you know what, cam Scatta, who ran the hell 65 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: out of the football, Jackson Dart ran the hell out 66 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: of the football. 67 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: They gave him the help he needed so he could succeed. 68 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: Not just that, but I felt like he energized not 69 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 4: just the crept, the whole team. I felt the whole 70 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: team was pulling for him. And you know, they hadn't 71 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: had a. 72 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: Lead like that. 73 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: They got the lead, obviously, the defense fed off all 74 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: that all day long. That's a team that has come 75 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: back against Denver. They had come back against you know, 76 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: I mean they'd had comebacks to get to three and 77 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: zero and that never happened. But I felt like he 78 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: he did. You know, he just willed it, you know, 79 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: with his with his scrambling ability, the design and the 80 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:22,279 Speaker 4: mix of designed runs, it's it. It becomes extremely difficult 81 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: to defend teams when your quarterback is. 82 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: A good runner. You have to count for all of it. 83 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: And the Chargers they've got a very good defense, but 84 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: they had trouble accounting for him in his scrambles and 85 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: even like even the shovel passed the theel for the touchdown, 86 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: Like the attention of detail on the fake just to 87 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: draw enough guys out and then to you don't just 88 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: do that. 89 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: You've got to practice that. 90 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: You've got to that's something you got to work at 91 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: to make it look so so like he's been doing 92 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: it a long time, and you know he's hasn't gotten 93 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: a lot of reps. But I thought the attention to 94 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: detail with some of his playfakes in the run game 95 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: were really good. 96 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: And then Baldy the competitiveness and the toughness, right, you know, 97 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: he heard his hamstring in the middle of this game, 98 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: and you know he was holding on the sideline. They 99 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: did not run nearly as much, if any zone read 100 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: in the second half of this game, I think, because 101 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: of that injury. But he still scrammled when he had to, 102 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: He ran when he had to, even though you could 103 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: tell he was not as healthy as he was in 104 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: the first half of this game. 105 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: Well he had you know, he. 106 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: Had the long run that got called back because of 107 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: the penalty. Mean, he's going to get almost one hundred 108 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: yards rushing if that doesn't get called back. But yeah, 109 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean we saw him grab the hamstring, We saw 110 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: Russell go in there, and you know he wasn't happy 111 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: with all of it, but he played through it. 112 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: He played through it, and. 113 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: You know, to to come out with the victory against 114 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: that team the way they were playing, they couldn't have 115 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: done it without his just his overall toughness and body. 116 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: I told the people, and you were texting me last Friday, 117 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: I was in the middle of hosting people with Kickoff 118 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: and I told the people. What you told me over 119 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: text that this Chargers defensive front, specifically their tackles, had 120 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: been playing as well as any group in the lead league. 121 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 3: And you know, the Giants, let's be honest, the interior 122 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: of the offensive line had struggled at points this year. 123 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: All across, all three guys have had their games, and 124 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: they did not play well. I thought they did a 125 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: heck of a job in this game, in both the 126 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: past game and the run game. 127 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look two with Ploto got you know, 128 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: he got, he got his share sacks, and you know, 129 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: he took probably more sacks than anybody and any quarterback 130 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: wants to take. But outside of that, I thought they 131 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: neutralized the guys Tierre Tart. 132 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: And you know, Caldwell, you're called well. 133 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a good group in there, and they 134 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: made some plays on short yardage and you know they 135 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: stuffed them one time, you know, on the fourth down. 136 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: But I thought, overall, I thought they they handled that 137 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: group pretty good. 138 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Upfront. 139 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: Hey, look in Dart, you know he took five sacks, right, 140 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: But I think in five or six weeks, Bald these 141 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: he starts figuring this stuff out Of the two or 142 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: three of those sacks he's not gonna take. 143 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna know to get the ball out. 144 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: You know, he had a couple of those naked boots 145 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: where instead of just dumping it off to Wan Dal, 146 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: he held the ball and he got sacked. 147 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: That's the stuff a rookie quarterback. I think it's going 148 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: to figure out. 149 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: I do too. 150 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a fast learner. And 151 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 4: I think he won this. You know, he wants this position. 152 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: I don't think it's too big. You know, you know, nobody, 153 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: nobody could have predicted this victory yesterday, but it was 154 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: a total team victory and he's a big part of it. 155 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: And going forward now that he's going to get the 156 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: reps and the attention and there he is Texan daybole, 157 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: you know late at night, you know about red. 158 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: Zone offense, Well maybe that worked. 159 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: You know, like he's been tireless to begin with. 160 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: He's done everything right. 161 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: Everybody that been in that buildings like you have Johnson's beginning, 162 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 4: he's he's you know, you got to put the work in, 163 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: and you know he's going to put the work in. 164 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: And you know that it's going to transfer at some point. 165 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. I'm with you one hundred 166 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: percent on that. And you know I mentioned the run game, Baldi. 167 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was only thirty two carries for one hundred 168 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: and seven yards for the running backs in this game. 169 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: But Dabe said it on Monday at his little you 170 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: know Zoom conference call, the volume of runs, yeah can 171 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: help a young quarterback, right. 172 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and motor too, like your Scatabooths. But but Motor 173 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: gave you a couple of good runs, and the number 174 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: of runs are important. You can't just let your quarterback 175 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: drop back against these defenses. The defenses are too talented. 176 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: They've got too many playmakers on the chargers side of 177 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: the ball. Like you've got to bounce it up. You 178 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: got to take some of the pressure off the quarterback. 179 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: And the way you do it is by handing off. 180 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: And we saw the toughness of Scataboo. We saw the 181 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 4: blocking of Scataboo, the pass protection, the overall toughness of 182 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: that position. You can't state it any more clearly than 183 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: what they provided and how they helped the quarterback out yesterday. 184 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: All right, and I we'll get to neighbors at the 185 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: end of the podcast. I want to talk to you 186 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: about that. Anything else on dart or the offense you 187 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: want to hit before we shift over to the defense. 188 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: I just think, look, I mean the fact that he 189 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: didn't turn the ball over and you know, he's running 190 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: through that defense and you know, and he's he's getting 191 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: hit and he's getting sacked, and he didn't put the 192 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: ball on the ground and lose anything. They didn't give 193 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: them any easy possessions, you know. I think that was, 194 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: you know, really important because obviously the defense did their job. 195 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: How to get in here? If you're lined up here, 196 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: you gotta go over the middle with at the score. 197 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: Great, How do we make that happen? 198 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, but citizen does? 199 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: It makes sense of your money with citizens Official Bank 200 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: of Eli Manning, No, I. 201 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Think that's one hundred percent right. 202 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: Want to ask you about the red zone real quick, 203 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: Baldy two to five better, but not where you want 204 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: it to be. In terms of scoring touchdowns, they had 205 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: that tough fall start first and goal at the three 206 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: that put them back at the eight. 207 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: They didn't score a touchdown on that drive. They kick 208 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: a field goal. 209 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: What are some of the things you like to see 210 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: from either what they're doing schematically, play calling, execution. How 211 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: can they get better in the red zone, which you 212 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: know they're going to have to if they want to 213 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: keep winning games. 214 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: Well, I feel like when you get down to the three, 215 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things schematically you can do. 216 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: I saw the Eagles go three for three in the 217 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: red zone yesday. They're all different plays, all different style 218 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 4: of plays, shovel pass, you know, a quad look. I mean, 219 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: there's just things you could do from a formation standpoint 220 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 4: where you're trying to get a numbers advantage and not 221 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: just trying to move a brick wall in front of 222 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: you where everybody's just diving into the gaps and there 223 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: is no room right there. So I do think there's 224 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: things you can do with the quarterback, whether it's pitch options, 225 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: using him in the run game, using him as a 226 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 4: decoy in the run game. I just think there's things 227 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: that you have to really look around the league and 228 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 4: see how some teams are more successful than others than 229 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: just trying to okay, well we're gonna run behind you know, 230 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: John Runyon and you know Andrew Thomas, Like sometimes you 231 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: can have good players, but you've got to find different 232 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: ways to do it. And I think that's that that 233 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: appetite to try to be successful in that area the field, 234 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: especially when you get it. 235 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: You know, after Dexter's interception return, you have to three. 236 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: You've got to you've got to turn around and go 237 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: to it. And you know, I remember asking Kurt Warner 238 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: about red zone offense one time. He goes, you know, 239 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: he goes, Well, you can design all the red zone 240 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: offense you want sometimes, but you know, if you've got 241 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald in acorn bolt and sometimes it's good just 242 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: to throw it up and let them guys go get 243 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: it now, they might not be able to do that 244 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: right now. So you know, I think that there's a 245 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of schematics that you can employ 246 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: here to be more successful than two for five. 247 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: You mentioned Andrew Thomas. It's funny, since he never does 248 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: anything wrong, you tend not to mention him and you 249 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: forget how good he is until you get through the 250 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: tape and you're like, wow, I didn't see one miss 251 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: block on the run game. He didn't give him one 252 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: pressure of the whole game. He was spectacular, just absolutely shut. 253 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: But like Bud Dupree, you didn't even notice him in 254 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: the game because of the job that Andrew Thomas. 255 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: Did, well, that's what you hope that's what you hope for, 256 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: is that your name never gets called. And maybe it's 257 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: somebody like me, you know, just pointed out in some 258 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: breakdowns or something of just about consistent he is. 259 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: That's what you want. 260 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: You want your left tackle to be that consistent that 261 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: you know, no penalties, you know, consistent in pass protection, 262 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: protecting the backside of your. 263 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: Rookie quarterback in the run game, doing what you gotta do. 264 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: And so that's one of those games where you could 265 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: give him a game ball and nobody's ever mentioned his. 266 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Name, absolutely right. Johnson Too. 267 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the official bank 268 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: of the Giants. From game they celebrations to your everyday 269 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: financial needs. Big Blue fans cant get the most out 270 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: of every moment with Citizens. Learn more at citizensbank dot com. 271 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: Slash Giants joined by Brian Baldinger and Baldi. Even though 272 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: Jackson dark's the top story to me, it was the 273 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: Giants defense that won this game. 274 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: They had two takeaways. Giants finished plus two. 275 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: We kind of referenced the plays already did Drew Phillips 276 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: interception and the Dexter Lawrence interception that gave the Giants 277 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: drive starting at the Chargers three yard line. So you 278 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: could take ten points and put them into the Giants 279 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: defense column in this game because they put the Giants 280 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: in position to score those points. And we talked after 281 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: the Dallas game about how we thought the pass rush 282 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: was good, but it failed to take over a game 283 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: when the Cowboys had to throw at the end of 284 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: that contest. Well, I felt like the Giants pass rush 285 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: took over this game when Justin Herbert had to throw 286 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: the ball with the Giants up two scores for a 287 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: decent part of this game. 288 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: They did. 289 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: And look, I mean they lost Joe All early in 290 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 4: the game. I mean that's that's a factor. So and 291 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: they lost the right guard and they lost. I mean, 292 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Justin Herbert had brought that team back 293 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: with a lot of backups in the offensive line in 294 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: the first three weeks of the season and he couldn't 295 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: do it. And they had plenty of they had opportunities 296 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter to win that game. And Burnsey 297 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: and Cavon and Abdul and Dexter, they played so well together. 298 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: The twist stunts that they were running, they were getting home. 299 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 4: They hit they hit Herbert twelve times. He hadn't be 300 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: hit twelve times in a game, and I don't know 301 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: how long. And they affected him, you know, And it 302 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: wasn't about the number of sacks, but they moved them, 303 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: and they moved them, and they hit them, and they 304 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: forced a lot of incompletions and throwaways. And I thought 305 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: it was Dexter's best game, not just because the interception, 306 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: but I thought it was his best game. 307 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: They got what they needed from him with a push 308 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: in the middle. 309 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: The twist stunts have been fantastic, and Burnsey is just 310 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: you know, because Kavon and Abdulla giving them really good rushes. 311 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: They can do a lot of things with them. They 312 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: can drop them into coverage, you know, they can play 313 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: met linebacker, they can spy with them. And so I thought, 314 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: you know, he's been their best defensive player all year. 315 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: He had a tremendous month of September. But now you're 316 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: seeing the contributions of everybody else and Abdul's ability to 317 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: win one on ones, whether it is off twist stunts 318 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: or just one on one. 319 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Right now, you see. 320 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: The talent that he has and how quickly whether it's 321 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: a spin or rip like he's got the movement that 322 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: you need to flush your quarterback. 323 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they use more of those games and 324 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: twist and stunts than we seen him use it in any 325 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: game this year. And that was the game, the play 326 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: that closed the game, Baldy And you know, Jamari Salier 327 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: is a right guard for the Chargers. He understand that 328 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: we saw is concerned with Dexter Lawrence who's lined up 329 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: in front of him, you know, and they run a 330 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: te twist and he's following Dexter Lawrence. Brian Burns is 331 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 3: it's a no hitter. No one even puts a hand 332 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: on him as he runs into the back. And the 333 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: thing about Burns Tubaldi, when he gets near a quarterback, 334 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: he's so long and athletic. You see quarterbacks sometimes avoid pressure. 335 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: Very rarely does Brian Burns fail to finish one of 336 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: those sacks. 337 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he closes. 338 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: He closes so well, and he truly is spider man like, 339 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: he's just arms and legs and he's just out there. 340 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: But when he gets when there's a position. 341 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: Where the quarterback okay is getting ready to throw, and 342 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: he gets a chance to close that gap to get 343 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: that hit to effect the throw like he doesn't miss, 344 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: and it's the best football that he has played in 345 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: his career right now. I mean this is better than 346 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 4: any point in Carolina. He's been a Pro Bowl player, 347 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: but he's playing at a different level right now. And 348 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: it's the other guys around him too, But he's just 349 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: playing like he is really locked in in all phases 350 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: of the game right now. 351 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: He also had the hit right after her had to 352 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: throw that ball that got picked off by Phillips. 353 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: He was pressuring the quarterback on that too. 354 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: And you know, it shows why sacks is not It's 355 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: an important stat because it does dictate, you know, success 356 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: and wins and losses, but it doesn't necessarily indicate how 357 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: effective a player was. You mentioned the quarterback pressures and 358 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: quarterback hits. Am Duel Carter zero sacks, but that dude 359 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: was all over the place. You know, that poor backup 360 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: left tackle on the left side, Declas had to try 361 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: to block him that one speed rush he had Bald 362 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: he just gets around him dips. I'm not even sure 363 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: Decla's got a hand on him on the play. And 364 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: then those other twists and stunts you saw, and look 365 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: they to use him as an off ball linebacker a 366 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: lot last week. They weren't happy about it, but they 367 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: had to because of Darius Mussau's injury. They got him 368 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: back on the edge and around the line of scrimmage 369 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: this week on the line and you saw it. 370 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: You just can't block that guy. 371 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: Well, you know I always say that. You know, if 372 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: you want to win the hundred meter dash, you got 373 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: to have a great takeoff. You gotta have a great start. 374 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: And when he gets a great start, I don't care 375 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: if it's Joe Walt, I don't care who it is 376 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: out there right now, Like he's going to have a 377 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: chance to win out the play that you're talking about 378 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: against Dulous, I mean he didn't. He got him turned 379 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: right away. He didn't get a hand on him, and 380 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: he turned. You know, he turned that corner. And that's 381 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: those type of guys are rare. That's why you have 382 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: to get him at the top of the draft. 383 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 384 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man. 385 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 386 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: you should talk to citizens. 387 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd like to 388 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: learn about a million routine. Yes, I knew I could 389 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: help make sense of your money with citizens. 390 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,479 Speaker 3: No question about it, and go back to the secondary 391 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: play for a second. On that same Burns play we 392 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: talked about to help close the game. That's why you 393 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: have a good pass Rushbaldi, because when you look at 394 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: the whole twenty two, you see Lad McConkie run into 395 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: Deontay Banks and Quentin Johnson has no one within twenty 396 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: five yards of him running a deep over route that 397 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: if that's not a touchdown, he's going to get tackled 398 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: by Howland inside. 399 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: The ten yard line. 400 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 3: And that was literally a game saving sack because if 401 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: Herbert has maybe what a second more, that ball's out 402 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: half a second more and that could be a touchdown 403 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: for Quentin Johnson. 404 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: Well, the offense had completely changed this year because of 405 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: Quinton Johnston's ability to finish those plays. He had a 406 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 4: sixty yard touchdown the second game of the season against 407 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: the Raiders that they couldn't stop. He's been the difference banker. 408 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 4: Now Lad mccackay have some you know, he had a 409 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: couple drops that are a little unconventional for him, but 410 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. You know, they made the drop and 411 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 4: you could see that you know, Herbert had been showing 412 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: tremendous toughness and he'd been really good at extending plays 413 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 4: this year and running. He'd become a much better runner, 414 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: and they took that away from him yesterday. 415 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had that one twenty four yard rush. I 416 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: think it was on a third and nineteen early in 417 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: the game. Something like that went by the way, tip 418 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: your captain, Marion Hampton. He took out two guys on 419 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: the block on that play. Great play and to see 420 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: a running back like him in the same game, Baldy 421 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: basically if a pulse of a debo who was not 422 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: a small man on his back carry him ten yards 423 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: and then a few plays later he's running away from 424 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: defensive backs for a fifty yard touchdown. That dude has 425 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: some traits. I don't know why the Chargers didn't run 426 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: him more. To be totally honest with you, he's going 427 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: to be a heck of a player. 428 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: Well, that was his best game, but he'd been coming 429 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: on and in the receiving game, he catches everything. 430 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: He catches everything. 431 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: He's got great hands and he's unbelievable you know after contact, 432 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: and so you know, the touchdown run, you know, got 433 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: him back in the game. But that was you know, 434 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: that's just a great individual play. I mean, you want 435 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: to get that guy to the ground, buddy. You could 436 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: tell like he's a difficult guy to get to the ground. 437 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's why it was a first round pick. 438 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: And guys don't want to spend first round picks some 439 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: running backs, but some guys are just difference makers, and 440 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: that's who he is. 441 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the play at the end 442 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: of the half, Baldy, because I think this is some 443 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 3: of the Giants will have to clean up. They still 444 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: have allowed too many big plays when you can't afford 445 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: to allow big plays. Deontay Banks gets beat on a 446 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: double move Dame Belton. It looks like cover one to me, 447 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: but it's almost like a split safety look. So I 448 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: think Belton just has deep responsibility on that side, which 449 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: again I don't know the play call, but if that's 450 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: the case, you tell me what you think. Belton's got 451 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: to get over the top on that and he can't 452 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: let that pass get in there. But at the same time, 453 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: in that situation, I don't think Banks can bite on 454 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: that stutter go either, because you know, the Chargers need 455 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: a deep ball and. 456 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: You want to keep everything in front of you at 457 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: that point exactly. 458 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you're not gonna the chance of biting 459 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 4: on that and intercepting it or break, like just keep 460 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: it in front of you, like make the tackle the catch. 461 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: That's what you want to do. You just want to 462 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: tackle the catch at that point. For both of those 463 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: guys to not be able to make that play, that's 464 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 4: that's unfortunate, but that's you got to I mean, you 465 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 4: got to put that play up there today and you 466 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: got to show it to him. You got to make 467 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: sure they understand situational football and where. 468 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: They're at in the game. 469 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, I'm with you. Anything else in the 470 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: defense you want to hit before we touch on neighbors? 471 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: Huh. 472 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: I just thought that, you know, I thought, Shane really, 473 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: you know, really called a good game though, you know, 474 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: against this team that has because the offense had changed 475 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: with the Chargers, they really bounced things up. 476 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: They were bo Schambleucker's offense all year. Last year. 477 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 4: They wanted to just control the line of scrimmage, but 478 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: they had opened it up, especially with getting Keenan Allen 479 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: back and the year that Ladd has and now you know, 480 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: Quinton coming on like that is a dangerous offense. And 481 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: they didn't give up a lot of big pass plays 482 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: in that game. 483 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: And that's that's a. 484 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 4: Credit because that guy, that quarterback can throw it deep 485 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: as well as anybody in this business. 486 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, nice, nice job by the defense, all right. Now, 487 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: of course, Baldy, even when good things happened for the Giants, 488 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: that should be a joyous day Jackson Dart the new 489 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: era begins, first win for him. The Giants lose the 490 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: guy you could argue as their best player, certainly their 491 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: best offensive player in the league, Neighbors. It was confirmed 492 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: today he tore his ACL. He's gonna miss the remainder 493 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: of the season. I don't think you can overstate the 494 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: impact of a loss like this on an offense. What 495 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: are the Giants do now moving forward? You can't replace them? 496 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: How do you survive without them? 497 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, just to play itself. 498 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: I mean I just think, you know, Uh, Jackson saw 499 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: a free play, you know, it's off sides. I think 500 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: he saw it and he just you know, I'll take 501 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 4: the deep shot, you know, and it just came down wrong. 502 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: It's only Baldy can the Giants on a free play, 503 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: a free play, have something bad happened to them, It's amazing. 504 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 4: But what you don't want, though, honestly, John is like, 505 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: here we go, Here we go again, where the giant. 506 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: You can't like, we saw Saquon go down, you know, 507 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: you know, early in the year, a couple of years ago, 508 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: and you can't just we've seen Andrew Thomas, you know 509 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: on an opening kickoff block kick Terra's hamstring, you know, 510 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: like you just can't say, here we go, Like there's 511 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: opportunities now for Wandale for you know, I think there 512 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: was questions why Slaton is even here. We haven't seen 513 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: anything from Jalen Hyatt. Like it's going to give an 514 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: opportunity for other players to step up. Maybe the tight 515 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: ends become a bigger role. We don't really know, but 516 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: somebody's got to fill help fill that void. Nobody's going 517 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: to be elite neighbors. There is no elite neighbors on 518 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: the roster. But it's gonna have to be cobbled together 519 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: by the whole group and the quarterback play and maybe 520 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: the running game gets picked up a little bit, and 521 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: so there's gonna have to do it a different way. 522 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: You can't say, Okay, third down, go to Melitue. I 523 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: don't care what they bracket man, best corner, whatever, like, 524 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: They're gonna have to find other ways to move the football. 525 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: Then just to rely on elite neighbors. 526 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: And it may take all of the roster to do it, 527 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: but that's the coaches got to be better. The opportunities 528 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: that are gonna present themselves to other players, they got 529 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: to take advantage of it. You know, that's the catch 530 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: by Slayton on third down yesterday. It was a big play, 531 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: you know, coming back, and so those guys have to 532 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: step up. 533 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: And look, you mentioned Hyde and Slayton. 534 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: I'll throw a Bull Collins in there, and Undet the 535 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: rookie free agent they kept on the roster. Maybe a 536 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: little Jordan Humphrey gets called up from the practice squad. 537 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: He's been a guy that's had success in this league. 538 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: So you're right, it's gonna be a team effort. How now, Baldy, 539 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: does his loss impact how you're I mean, maybe how 540 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: you're coaching up Jackson Dart is maybe the wrong way 541 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: to put it, but how he has to operate with that? 542 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: That true number one? And does it impact your ability 543 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: now to evaluate him over the next thirteen games. 544 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: I hope not. I hope not. 545 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 4: I mean yes, Like I'm I'm out here watching the 546 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: Rams yesterday and Stafford and Nikua is what you hope 547 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: a quarterback, a great quarterback and receiver, the relationship you 548 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: have where it's third down, I know he's gonna win. 549 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it to him. 550 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 4: And you could do that with Believe, and so the 551 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 4: evaluation is going to be different, but maybe it's in 552 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 4: some ways it's going to speed up the process because 553 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: he's not going to have the reliable thing. He's gonna 554 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: have to go through progressions. He's gonna have to find 555 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: the open guy. Knowing that this guy who wins just 556 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: on the jump balls alone, where you have that ability 557 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: just to throw it up and let him go get 558 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: it the way that he's done for the first twenty 559 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: games of his career, Like you hope that it's going 560 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: to take him and make him go through progressions even 561 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: fatter and be able to find the open guy. And 562 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to his eyes and feet and his 563 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 4: mechanics are gonna have to be better. 564 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: Even better, all right, Baldy, I must admit they have 565 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: not played a national game yet, and they've been on 566 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: i think at the same time as the Giants a 567 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: lot of the games this year, except when the Giants 568 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: played on Sunday night. I have not watched a second 569 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: of New Orleans Saints football this year. So give me 570 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: a little thumbnail on what the Giants are running into 571 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: when they play the Saints next week. 572 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you. 573 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: I mean, they took Buffalo into the fourth quarter yesterday 574 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: like they were tow for toe with Buffalo. All right, 575 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: if you watch him against Arizona, They've got the ball 576 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 4: to Juwan Johnson the tight end in the end zone 577 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 4: to tie the game up, and Baker a Buddha Baker 578 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: makes a play to. 579 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Get the ball out. 580 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: They have been right except for one game where they 581 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: got blown out. The three other games have been highly competitive. 582 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara looks like the Camara that were used to 583 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: seeing like he's back to looking really good. They've got 584 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 4: a a talented offensive line. They got two number one 585 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: picks at the tackle position. They're pretty healthy upfront. Kellimore 586 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: is a great play caller. Yesterday, they played really good 587 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: defense yesterday for the most part. Now, Josh Allen made 588 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: some plays late in the game to kind of open 589 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: it up. But that was a two point game into 590 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter yesterday. Like they I saw him in 591 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: training camp, John and I thought I saw one hundred 592 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: and twenty six play scrimmage. 593 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody bitch or complain. One hundred and 594 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: twenty six played full, full scale scrimmage, two games of 595 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty six plays. They wanted conditioning, they 596 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: wanted tempo and Spencer Rattler who won the job. He's been, 597 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: he's been. 598 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: He's just been a fighter out there, you know, and 599 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: and fight for everything, like they don't give you. 600 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: Anything, all right. 601 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: So it'll be a tough game for the Giants in 602 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: that building where I know the Saints have not won 603 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: a lot of games over the past couple of years, 604 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: but it's a very difficult place to play. And who knows, 605 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: maybe you know, if they're gonna go Tyler shuk at 606 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: some point here or maybe not. We'll see, but if 607 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: they try to get a spark the way with the 608 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: Giants did this week, but it'll be Giants and Saints 609 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: coming up next week. Baldy, anything you're doing, you're up 610 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: to that you want the folks to check out. By 611 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: the way, I've been enjoying your spots on the Move 612 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: the Sticks podcast every Monday with DJ and Bucky. 613 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: Podcast with Bucky and DJ before I came on with you, John, 614 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: So I'll be doing that every Monday. But I'm be 615 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: sending some videos here for Baldy's breakdowns on the defensive 616 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 4: front and on Jackson Dark, so we'll get that out. 617 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: We'll get that up on all the websites for you guys, 618 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: and really I'm just going through each game, trying to 619 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: get through as many of these games today as I can. 620 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: We'll finish up tomorrow. 621 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 3: That's a special Baldi's breakdown the Thisship the Giants on 622 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: the podcast pross to you by Citizens the Official Bank 623 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: of the Giants for Brian Baldinger. 624 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk. Hopefully we'll talk to you next week.