WEBVTT - Crazy Ants and Electricity

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff to blow your mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, are you welcome to stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>blow your mind? My name is Robert Land and Joe McCormick. Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a reading from our holy book The Daily Mail. Shelly, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do headline June crazy ants that feast on electronics

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<v Speaker 1>and are invading the US cannot be killed with normal insecticide.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I love I love everything about that headline

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<v Speaker 1>because it just implies that these ants are coming to

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<v Speaker 1>eat your precious xbox and there's nothing you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to penetrate its exo skeleton. It's just gonna laugh at you.

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<v Speaker 1>They feast on electronics, They're crazy, cannot be killed, cannot

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<v Speaker 1>as capitalized. Um, they've got the little subheads here. Since

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<v Speaker 1>it was first spotted in Houston in two thousand two,

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<v Speaker 1>it's spread to some twenty one counties in Texas, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>counties in Florida, and a few locations in Mississippi and Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>The omnivorous and attacks and kills other species, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as monopolizing food sources to the detriment of the entire ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 1>It also attacks electrical wiring causing millions of dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of damage. So it's just an unstoppable force. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>an invasion. I'm imagining those ants from Indiana Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Did you watch there?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't watch it? No, you know that the buzz

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't all that great, so I just never got around

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Robert, I get mad when people haven't watched

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<v Speaker 1>the same bad movies I have. You've got to go

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<v Speaker 1>subject yourself to this. Have you heard about the gopher? No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a gopher like in Caddyshack Gopher. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a c g I gopher in it. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>also c g I ants marching through the forest and

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<v Speaker 1>attacking people. M I should probably check it out at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. No, don't waste your time. It's the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is Cape Blanchet, who's the best part

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<v Speaker 1>of everything she does. But there are crazy ants. They're

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<v Speaker 1>essentially crazy ants or their giant crazy ants. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. No, I think it's actually not a

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<v Speaker 1>very good point of comparison once we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>details on crazy ants. But man, so I I put

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<v Speaker 1>this up here because I hate the Daily Mail. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say I hate things, but uh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of hate the way their their headlines work.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also can't resist that they just go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, cannot be killed and feast on electronics. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course we are talking about a real organism here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one that's not quite as outlandish as this. Uh, these

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<v Speaker 1>headlines and subheads make it sound. No, And while the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of feasting on electronics is not quite exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as far off as you might imagine based

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<v Speaker 1>on I don't know, you know, whatever you found out

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<v Speaker 1>when you clicked on that Daily Mail article about the

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<v Speaker 1>Longness monster washing up on the beach, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also have to point out that I have I

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<v Speaker 1>have heard versions of this where people think that the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy ants eat electricity, which is also not true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like their RoboCop they need to charge up at not right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're seeking out your electronics so that they can they

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<v Speaker 1>can they just jagg onto that that that precious juice.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever see that mid career West Craven movie Shocker? No,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is one that that you've been telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about for years. Yeah, it's so it's West Craven at

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<v Speaker 1>at the height of his I don't care, and he

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<v Speaker 1>makes a movie with the Oh what's a Mitch Pelegie,

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<v Speaker 1>the boss from the X Files. Yeah, he plays like

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer who gets sent to the electric chair, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he turns into an electricity killer who like can

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<v Speaker 1>fly through TVs, and he can go through power lines,

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<v Speaker 1>and he when he gets hurt, he can heal himself

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<v Speaker 1>by sticking his fingers in an electrical He's basically the

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<v Speaker 1>electricity gremlin from Gremlins to the New Batch. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen Grimlin's too. How many people hate me? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, So let's explain. Are a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotes about what the deal with this crazy aunt is

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<v Speaker 1>and why people say it feasts on electricity, even if

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<v Speaker 1>that's not exactly true. So there is a New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times story on crazy ants by the writer John Muallam,

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<v Speaker 1>and it tells stories of people with crazy ant nightmares

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<v Speaker 1>in their homes, specifically with the ants attacking their electronics.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's one story about a man named Mike who

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<v Speaker 1>had his house infested to an unbelievable degree. Quote one day,

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<v Speaker 1>his air conditioning stopped working. A musty smell seeped from

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<v Speaker 1>the vents in his living room floor, so he powered

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<v Speaker 1>up his shop back to clear them. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>he was done, he had sucked out five gallons of ants.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon he and his wife were waking up to find

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<v Speaker 1>vast frantic networks of ants zipping around the kitchen floor

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<v Speaker 1>in all directions. When the picture on their fifty inch

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<v Speaker 1>box television started flickering, Mike took off the back panel

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<v Speaker 1>and found the guts throbbing with ants. Oh that's that's lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that just sounds like like Tales from the

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<v Speaker 1>Dark Side episode. Yeah, you can't, well there, what's in

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<v Speaker 1>the Tales from the Crypt movie? There's a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>gets flooded with It's not ants. I think it's cockroaches,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? Oh, are you thinking about Stephen King's creep show?

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<v Speaker 1>Not Tales from the Crypt creep show? But you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Tales from the Crypt. I'm sure it has an

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<v Speaker 1>insect horror episode that I'm forgetting. Yeah. Another story from

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<v Speaker 1>that New York Times article, there's a man named strom Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of strom Duke quote, one evening his iron

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<v Speaker 1>stopped working, Then sparks shot from the appliance, and a

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<v Speaker 1>tide of crazy ants came rushing out. Other Dukes lived

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<v Speaker 1>in neighboring houses, and they all had similar stories. The

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<v Speaker 1>ants had caused six dollars of electrical damage to one

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<v Speaker 1>woman's car, infiltrated the glass break detector of one house's

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<v Speaker 1>alarm system, causing the alarm to blare, and just the

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<v Speaker 1>previous night, shut off the water at Strom's brother Melvin's

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<v Speaker 1>house by disabling the pressure switch on his well. It

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<v Speaker 1>really sounds like it could be a horror movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine all these essentially the movie Squirm, except instead

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<v Speaker 1>of screaming earthworms, you have ants just streaming out of

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<v Speaker 1>telephones in various household gadgets. Yeah, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>dig too deep, if somebody just says it, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it could be plausible. Right. The answer eating electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep finding them inside the TV, inside the iron,

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<v Speaker 1>inside the sensor, the air conditioner, compressor, the gas pump.

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<v Speaker 1>They're everywhere the wires are, So why why wouldn't we

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<v Speaker 1>assume they're eating electricity? Yeah? I mean, the mere idea

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<v Speaker 1>of ants being drowned electricity isn't that crazy? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>eating electronics? Yes, that's nuts. But organisms are inherently bioelectric,

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<v Speaker 1>even in the know the mighty electric eel. It's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>compared to lightning or the lethal volts coiled inside your

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<v Speaker 1>household electric outlets, but it's there. It's it's really not

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<v Speaker 1>that grandiose to think of it as as a sparkle

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<v Speaker 1>of life. Even so. Yeah, just the mere connection between

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<v Speaker 1>electricity organisms, uh, you know, one can easily buy into that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can easily imagine they're trying to power up right,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least that Yeah, there's maybe some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic field being omitted, and that field tends to draw

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<v Speaker 1>in insects of a certain sort. It makes me think of, um, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever see that ants circling the iPhone viral video?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever did, know, Well, allow me

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<v Speaker 1>to show you something. Oh wow, So it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>phone looks like it's receiving a call, and ants are

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<v Speaker 1>just circling around it like uh, like they're they're intending

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<v Speaker 1>to invade it where they was sieging it, corralling it

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<v Speaker 1>even yea. As I look at this video now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got almost five million views. It obviously was a viral

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<v Speaker 1>hit and It was published by something on YouTube called

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<v Speaker 1>Viral Video Lab. I'm pretty sure it's fake. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the Snopes thing on it. The Snopes article is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we haven't proven it's real. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>prove a video like that is fake. But a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who have been analyzing it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their Reddit threads on it and stuff, and people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you look at certain parts of it,

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<v Speaker 1>it really looks like the ants are blurry kind of

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<v Speaker 1>animations that have been edited into the to the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet again, it doesn't seem impossible that a phone

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<v Speaker 1>which puts out an electromagnetic field could cause something like

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<v Speaker 1>ants to circle around it. I mean, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>certain animals like birds use a certain amount of magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>kind of path finding to orient themselves for migration. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that there are electromagnetically sensitive animals that live in

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<v Speaker 1>the water. Sharks and rays have a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic sensitivity. So you kind of might assume, even though

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<v Speaker 1>this video turns out to be fake, that there could

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<v Speaker 1>be things like that there's some kind of field being

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<v Speaker 1>put out that sucks in all the insects around it.

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<v Speaker 1>But with crazy ants. Uh, that does not appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be the case. But the answer, that answer is still

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<v Speaker 1>quite fascinating, right it is. So there is more than

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<v Speaker 1>one kind of crazy ant. Actually, the kind we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about is Nylandria Fulva, commonly known as the Raspberry crazy

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<v Speaker 1>aunt Raspberry without a P because it's named after a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Raspberry r A S B E r r Y,

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<v Speaker 1>or also known as the Tawny crazy ant. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>can mostly call it Nylanderia Fulva or something, because who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to say raspberry or tawny when you're talking about ants?

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<v Speaker 1>They sound delicious, though, Yeah, this is it a flavor

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<v Speaker 1>of ants? Yeah? I think so. It's kind of I'm

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<v Speaker 1>imagining ice cream cone crawling and crazy ants. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there are ice cream cones like that. Another point

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<v Speaker 1>of comparison I should make is that when reading about

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<v Speaker 1>how these ants pile up, you know they're these massive

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<v Speaker 1>volumes of ants. The guy talked about sucking five gallons

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<v Speaker 1>of ants out of his air conditioner with a vacuum cleaner.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who have really bad infestations of Nyland Area

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<v Speaker 1>Fulva in Texas and stuff say that the ants will

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like pile up head against the sides of

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<v Speaker 1>their house like snow drifts, and if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're looking at, it can look like huge piles

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee grounds or something, suggesting there could be a flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the zombies and war Zy right where

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<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of piling up against the wall. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a kind of interesting thing, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that ants can behave a little bit like the zombies

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<v Speaker 1>in the World War Z movie if you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, zombies are getting over a barrier by just

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<v Speaker 1>like piling their bodies up against it and eventually forming

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<v Speaker 1>a staircase made out of other zombies to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the wall. Yeah, they're really just playing

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<v Speaker 1>ant like behavior in that in that in that film,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm instantly reminded of cases that we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in the past of uh, you know, I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>fire ants in particular forming a raft, Yes, exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll make a raft for themselves when it floods,

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<v Speaker 1>a raft made out of ants for ants to survive

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<v Speaker 1>a flood. I want to see zombies do that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the zombies have done that in a in a film

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<v Speaker 1>or a TV show I just haven't seen it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a reminder of the bizarre, deep, almost kind

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<v Speaker 1>of group intelligence that you see in use social insects

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<v Speaker 1>like ants and bees. But anyway, as we were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more than one kind of crazy ant. Crazy ants

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<v Speaker 1>are native to South America, specifically northern Argentina and southern Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>so picture kind of middle Middle region in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were first discovered in Texas by an exterminator

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<v Speaker 1>named Tom Raspberry in two thousand two, and since then

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<v Speaker 1>they've been spreading throughout the Gulf Coast. They're now in

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana and Florida and Mississippi. And people thought in those

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<v Speaker 1>regions that the red fire ant was pretty bad. They

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a troubling invasive species. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>ant has actually been replacing the red fire ant for

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<v Speaker 1>many years there Now it's also displacing other arthropods like

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<v Speaker 1>spiders and centipedes, which can destabilize the food chain because

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<v Speaker 1>larger predators like birds need to be able to eat

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<v Speaker 1>things like spiders and centipedes. They're not so keen on

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy ants. All right, hold that thought. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and when we come back, we

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<v Speaker 1>will jump back into the swarm of crazy ants. Than alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. So we mentioned that the crazy ants are

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<v Speaker 1>of the genus Nyland area. Um, you might wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>do they get the name crazy ants? Is it because

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<v Speaker 1>they're crazy because they want to get into your TV?

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't really seem like how a name would come about.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently they get this name from just descriptions of their

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<v Speaker 1>foraging behavior. And if you've never seen what this looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go to YouTube and you should look up

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<v Speaker 1>videos of crazy ants foraging because it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to describe. It's this frantic, erratic, extremely fast movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh to me, crazy ants moving around in a swarm.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost looks like a swarm of gnats zipping around

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, except the movement is confined to a

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<v Speaker 1>flat surface on the ground. Yeah, if you're used to

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<v Speaker 1>sing and you know ants embarking on journeys generally like

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<v Speaker 1>a path from one place to another, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>this and it just looks like they're just a scramble.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just a mess. Yeah, it's just a mindless swarm. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's a different kind of foraging strategy based

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<v Speaker 1>on different mathematics. Right, when you've got a single line

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<v Speaker 1>between two things, you're maximizing efficiency there, Like the ants

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<v Speaker 1>are not expending any more energy than they need to

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<v Speaker 1>to get from one place to another in order to

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<v Speaker 1>transport goods and seek out new stuff and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you see these these ants moving around, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a very different idea. It's almost as if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going for a different type of investment bet payoff matrix,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're betting more on random movement leading to possible

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<v Speaker 1>discoveries of things leading to potential payoffs in in a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like cloud type movement. Yeah, they're just scouring

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<v Speaker 1>the terrain to see what they can find. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to an interview with a U. T. Austin researcher

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<v Speaker 1>named Dr Edward Lebrun, who is an expert on crazy

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<v Speaker 1>antswer who studies invasive ants in general and um, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things you're saying is that they're very successful

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<v Speaker 1>invasive species because they share traits with other successful invasive ants,

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<v Speaker 1>one of which is that the crazy ants are what

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<v Speaker 1>he calls super colonial, meaning you've got no divisions between

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<v Speaker 1>colonies of the same species. So some other ants might

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<v Speaker 1>set up a colony here and then a colony over

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighbor's yard. And if the ants of those

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<v Speaker 1>two colonies come into contact with another, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>fight it out right, like rival kingdoms exactly. They're in

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<v Speaker 1>competition for the same resources. It's like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>and your neighbor fighting over I don't know what you

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<v Speaker 1>would fight over with your neighbor. You found treasure, yeah,

0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.080
<v Speaker 1>buried treasure right on the property line, and you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting my sword, that's my treasure. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>ants don't necessarily behave that way. Crazy ants from different

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<v Speaker 1>colonies apparently treat one another with deference in respect. They

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<v Speaker 1>come across members of another colony, and they treat them

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<v Speaker 1>basically as if they were members of the same colony. So,

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<v Speaker 1>con specifics, members of the same crazy aunt species don't

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<v Speaker 1>tend to antagonize one another. They team up. And from

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<v Speaker 1>that New York Times article I mentioned earlier by Mullum Lebroun,

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<v Speaker 1>the researchers says that he believes there's a single super

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<v Speaker 1>colony of crazy ants that occupies quote as many as

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand, two hundred acres in Iowa Colony, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a place in Texas strangely enough, uh, and is spreading

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred meters a year in all directions. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>just this one giant organism because in many ways a

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<v Speaker 1>colony of ants or a colony of any youth social

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<v Speaker 1>insects kind of does behave like a single organism split

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<v Speaker 1>across multiple bodies. Wow. So yeah, this is they're essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the the the Tyrannids from Warhammer forty thousand. There just

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<v Speaker 1>this invading superorganism. Well you've mentioned the Tyrannids before, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to tell me a little more about him, Robert. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an army of xenomorph inspired sort of biohr is

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<v Speaker 1>also very inspired by the the alien antagonists from Starship Troopers,

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<v Speaker 1>so that kind of adversary and the ideas that they

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<v Speaker 1>just come and they just lay waste two entire planets.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny you should mention Starship Troopers because

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about the World War Z kinda

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<v Speaker 1>and aunt. What what World War Z zombies and ants

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<v Speaker 1>have in common is that they'll make mega structures out

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<v Speaker 1>of their own bodies to climb over things and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The bugs in Starship Troopers do the same thing. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. They did in the film version. Yeah. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they do in the book. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've read the book, but I don't I don't recall. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's time we've got to address this question.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do the crazy ants keep invading electronics? Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you find them in the TV and the iron in

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<v Speaker 1>the detector and the all that stuff. Well, part of

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<v Speaker 1>the answer, of course, is based on the way they

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<v Speaker 1>hunt for food and resources. They are simply going to

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<v Speaker 1>come across electronics, right, I mean, they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>find them because that's they're They're just scouring everywhere. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna scour your home and they're going to run across

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<v Speaker 1>your various electronic gadgets. Yeah, you're exactly right. I Mean

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that comes through in the stories

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<v Speaker 1>about crazy and infestations is that that they they become

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<v Speaker 1>so pervasive in everywhere. You know, if you've got an

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<v Speaker 1>infestation in your house, they're gonna be all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they will be scouting out all kinds of things.

0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And this actually leads to one thing that Edward Lebrun

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<v Speaker 1>said that I thought was pretty interesting. He didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>these words, but he said essentially that there's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be some selection bias in the characterization of them, mainly

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<v Speaker 1>invading electronics. And his exact quote was quote, when your

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<v Speaker 1>power goes out, you want to know why you find

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of ants. That's a good reason to get

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<v Speaker 1>your video camera. Which is a very good point about

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we tend to notice things, right, We

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<v Speaker 1>tend to notice something when it's an unusual problem. You're

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<v Speaker 1>much less likely to get the camera out if it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not turning off something that you might be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to use. That's right. And then of course the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that that that they wind up in your electronics,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why it becomes a problem has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do with not so much the certainly not the

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<v Speaker 1>electronic components there, but just the case itself. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>if they end up in your computer tower for your

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<v Speaker 1>your PC, it's not because there's a you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an active battery in there or anything, right, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the tower itself is an ideal container for

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<v Speaker 1>the ants exactly. So crazy ants are different than many

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<v Speaker 1>other types of ants. If you've got a group of

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<v Speaker 1>red fire ants, Solenopsis invicta, which they've got a great

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<v Speaker 1>Latin name, Solenopsis in victa. They're gonna build a colony, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna dig, and they're gonna build a mound, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna dig tunnels in the mound. Their their ecosystem engineers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about in the City Evolution episode.

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<v Speaker 1>They build their own ecosystem and then they guard it

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<v Speaker 1>to the death. Crazy ants are different. They don't dig

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<v Speaker 1>very much. They dig a little bit and not much.

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<v Speaker 1>They prefer to nest in existing cavities they come across

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<v Speaker 1>in the environment. So the insides of boxes containing electronics

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be an eye deal type of enclosed protected

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<v Speaker 1>space that's perfect for them to climb into and form

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<v Speaker 1>a nest inside. Yeah, enclosed spaces with with space in

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<v Speaker 1>there and a limited numbers of of entrances and exits, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and very small entrances and exits, so predators, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be hard for them to get in there. When was

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<v Speaker 1>the last time an ant eater got inside your TV? Rightly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's true, it's it's it's it's pretty safe from

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<v Speaker 1>less than five times. It's got to be. But also

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron and other experts have pointed out another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you might tend to find tons of ants and the

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<v Speaker 1>guts of your TV, or tons of crazy ants pouring

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<v Speaker 1>out of a compressor box or something. Lebron says that

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<v Speaker 1>when the crazy ants get agitated, they released something known

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<v Speaker 1>as an alarm pheromone. Now we know that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the communication between ants who share a colony is

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<v Speaker 1>pheromone base. They release chemical signals that are distributed through

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<v Speaker 1>the air that can essentially smell messages from one another,

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<v Speaker 1>and the alarm pheromone is a chemical that has a

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<v Speaker 1>smell that alerts conspecific ants to danger or trouble. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine that this could work several different ways

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<v Speaker 1>in the wild. Right, one way an animal might use

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<v Speaker 1>an alarm pheromone would be to say, Hey, I'm in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something dangerous here, you better stay away. But not

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<v Speaker 1>so with the crazy ants. You know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of pheromone based behavior you often see this

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<v Speaker 1>pop up in monster movies, is a way to outsmart

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<v Speaker 1>or defeat the adversary. Blade too comes to mind. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the end up like mimicking the pheromones of the reaper

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<v Speaker 1>vampires and you know, directing where they swarm. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's rarely explored as that the prime motivator.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a monster movie out there where the whole

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<v Speaker 1>crazy interspecies conflict comes down to a misunderstanding over alarm pheromone?

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<v Speaker 1>May be interesting. I've never heard of that, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could easily see how, especially given what I'm about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>that that things could get mixed up and go bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So another what Lebron says is, actually, it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way that I just mentioned. It's not that they put

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<v Speaker 1>out an alarm pheromone that says I'm in danger, stay away.

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<v Speaker 1>When you put crazy ants in a vial, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>they get very agitated, and they get mad, they release

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<v Speaker 1>their alarm pheromone. And if you take a vial of

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<v Speaker 1>these really angry agitated ants and you put it next

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<v Speaker 1>to a trail of other crazy ants, instead of avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>the vial, the ants are going to swarm all over it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're actually attracted to the alarm pheromone. And this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes sense for ants because being used social insects,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how they defend nests. Like if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a nest and something's in the nest. Attacking the nest,

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to do is bring all of your

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<v Speaker 1>family members in to fight the attacker off. So basically

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>they're there. Their whole way about doing things is if

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<v Speaker 1>you mess with one crazy ant, you're messing with all

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy ants, right, I mean, one crazy ant doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand much of a chance right there. They're they're very small.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy antswer tiny, especially compared to some other AUNT competitors

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<v Speaker 1>of theirs, which are bigger and have powerful venom glands

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<v Speaker 1>and stingers and stuff. Crazy an'ts are little things. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course the problem here is someone with an invaded xbox.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're not intentionally messing with the crazy ants. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to eat crazy ants. They're not They're not

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<v Speaker 1>they're not trying to do the uh, the colony's harm.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens if, if, if a if a single

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<v Speaker 1>crazy ant comes to harm within your xbox. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. So it has been hypothesized by Lebron and

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<v Speaker 1>others that what may be going on here is you've

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<v Speaker 1>got an electronic device, or an electrical power box or

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<v Speaker 1>something crazy ant comes in, maybe multiple crazy ants come in,

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<v Speaker 1>either one ant or a group of ants touching one

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<v Speaker 1>another create a short circuit. They touched the wrong contact points,

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<v Speaker 1>they close a circuit and get electrocuted or burned because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what they're doing. They don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>circuits work. No, they're like Indiana Jones's buddy wandering through

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<v Speaker 1>the temple. They don't know there are traps here. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't know to stay out of the light, so that

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<v Speaker 1>so they they just get burned or get electrocuted. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when there's trauma, they release the alarm pheromone, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course this draws in more ants, and maybe more

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>ants get electrocuted or burned or something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they release more alarm pheromone, and it draws in even

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<v Speaker 1>more ants, until you've just got a TV sagging with ants.

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<v Speaker 1>And this again, this could work wonderfully. And say a

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<v Speaker 1>zombie movie, what if the whole reason the zombies are

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<v Speaker 1>attacking the the house all odd night of the Living

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<v Speaker 1>Dead is because one zombie happened to, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>burn up in a toaster. I feel like there's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good monster movie that already has a

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<v Speaker 1>treatment of this. It must exist. I can't call anything

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<v Speaker 1>to mind right now. Yeah, like I say, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like you see the pheromone angle used as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant scientific, you know, tactic against the monsters, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's rarely the uh, the the actual cause of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the encounter. Now, if you don't already live within

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<v Speaker 1>range of Nylondaria fulva, I'm sure you're wondering when can

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<v Speaker 1>I get them in my EXAs well. The fortunate thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that they don't tend to travel very far on

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<v Speaker 1>their own because they don't have wing dispersal, so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, fly off new queens to set up

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>new colonies far away. They move very slowly. I've seen

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it characterized as on average about two hundred meters per

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>year is about as far as they go unless somebody

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>moves them. And you can imagine how somebody might move

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>them by accident if they tend to inhabit cavities. So

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 1>say one of these things gets inside your car or

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 1>gets inside your TV and you move houses, or gets

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>inside something else, and that is how these things can

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>be transported to new places. Now, there are some questions

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that haven't been fully answered yet about what's the up

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>upwards northern end of their possible range. How how far

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 1>north could they go before, for example, of freezes hard

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>freezes in the winter would prevent them from surviving. And

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>we don't fully know the answers tell those questions yet.

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>But once we answer those questions, then of course who

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>knows if climate change is gonna affect that over the

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>coming decades anyway, So right, there's gonna that's changing the

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>playing field for so many different organisms. Yeah, so what

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>ultimately is at steak here with the crazy ants? I mean,

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>it truly goes beyond just the the average, the the

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the odds shorted out xbox right right. Well, the the

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>damage is mainly not too human electronics. It's mainly going

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to be too ecosystems. Because they can out compete native insects.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They can destroy beehives and other ant colonies. Um, I've

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>read that they can even sometimes they're so thick, they swarm,

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>so thick that they can smother and suffocate ground dwelling birds.

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>It's horrible to picture, but yeah, they just get into

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>the nasal cavities of chickens and other ground dwelling birds

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>and asphyxiate them. U they can get in the eyes

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of live stock. It's really gross as far as damage goes,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually have read that there was at least one

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>time when they shut down a chemical plant by getting

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>into electronics. So we've been saying, okay, here are these

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>these more reasonable explanations. Is not that they eat electricity,

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>it's that there's this pheromone and here's what happens to

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>get them inside your electronics. I should note that in

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that New York Times story I mentioned earlier, Dr David Oi,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>an entomologist with the U. S Department of Agriculture. He

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>according to him, he said, you know, we can't rule

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>out the possibility that the ants are in some way

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>actually attracted to electromagnetic fields and get in there. For

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>that reason, that just hasn't been you know, we haven't

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>demonstrated that, but you can't rule it out as an

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>influencing factor. So who knows. Maybe they are, maybe they

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>are shocker material. But anyway, as as far as their

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>effect on humans goes, I mean, I think a lot

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of it is actually more psychological than material damage. When

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you read about people who live in the places where

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>they're dealing with infestations of these ants, they they they

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>hate them, They're they are freaking out. I mean, I'm

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>sure not everybody is like that, but there there are

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>some people who are really distressed. I can't at a

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>voluminous the antsw are I can't imagine anyone not freaking

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>out like we. We don't really want our homes to

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>be um habitats for anything besides ourselves and our sanctioned pets. Nobody,

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to see ants in their house. That is

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 1>always a problem. You know that John Muellam article in

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>The Times, It takes a dark turn when he quotes uh.

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>He quotes the American psychologist James Hillman and says that

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Hillman argued, an endless swarm of bugs flattens your perception

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>of yourself as precious and meaningful. It instantly reduces your

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>individual consciousness to a merely numerical or statistical level. Well,

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't say that's exactly how I think about it.

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>When I encounter ants in the house. Usually I'm I

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>think more, Oh, well, we left something out, the ants

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>came in and are trying to eat it, and now

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I've got to set out some of these grotesque traps

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to try and kill them. Everyone loses, the ants lose,

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I lose. Nobody wants this situation. You know, I I

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>don't like killing bugs and wildlife, but when I've had

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>aunt infestations in my house, I've noticed that, like I

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just turned into a cold hearted murderer. I'm just like, yeah,

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kill you all it. It does something to

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>my brain. Well, they're they're just they're out of place.

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 1>They're not supposed to be here. That's not what the

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>house is for. I feel like I should learn to

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 1>be a better person. It's it's easy to do that

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>when you were out and about and encounter the ants

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>in the yard, But it's just in the house that

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>changes everything. Now, one of the things that a lot

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of the conversation on crazy ants has centered on has

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>actually been like bureaucratic, scientific and government response to them.

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of that New York Times article I mentioned.

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>While it's got some great anecdotes and stuff in it,

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the article is actually focused on the

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>scientific community and the government's alleged slowness to identify the

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>species and respond to its spread in a way that

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>might not be fair. Right. Yeah. I found an interesting

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>response to this particular New York Times article by a

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>research scientist, Alex Wilde and he offered this critique. He said, quote,

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this is not accurate. Scientists did not, in fact, quote

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>swarm into debate unquote. The slow response to identifying in

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>fullva was exactly the opposite. The trouble is that figuring

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>out the origin and invasive ants isn't anyone's job, at

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>least not in the United States. What happened was that

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a few ants scientists, in their spare time from whatever

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>their official duties were, have occasionally offered an opinion about

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>these new invaders. And he goes on to summarize further

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and said, and he says, I don't see the point

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of singling out the egghead scientists for being slow to

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>identify Nylanderia fulva when the real trouble is bigger and structural.

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Americans simply don't value basic research enough to support a

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>system that rapidly pinpoints emerging pest problems. If we want

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to quickly identify new pests, we need to salary thousands

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>of positions for taxonomists where afpid response to emerging threats

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is part of the job. I think that's a good

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>point to make. I mean, uh, maybe we should have

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>made it more clear that one of the things in

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the article is that you get this idea that these

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>like exterminators and people have to be the ones to

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>step in and really push forward on identifying the species

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>because the scientists are dropping the ball. It really basically

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the horror movie just writes itself again because you can

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>imagine the poor exterminate. Yea, the exterminator character dies in

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the opening scene. Then the scientist comes in and it

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>is all and trying to interpret it but ultimately can't

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>get a handle on the monsters, and the monsters eat him.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But the reality is rather different. There's no crack team

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>of egghead scientists to show up to deal with with

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>with different outbreaks of ants. Yeah, and especially with the

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>world we live in right now. I mean we live

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in a world that is number one globally connected through

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>commerce and travel, so things can get back and forth

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>between places really easy. And number two, we live in

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>an era of changing climate where it's going to be

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>we're always going to be altering ecosystems and changing the

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>types of life forms they can support. We're getting into

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>an invasive species. What would you call it the dead zone?

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Not the dead zone, a life zone. Actually that's the opposite.

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>A zone that is just rife for infestations of all types. Now,

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to be careful not to overly demonize invasive species,

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>because you can sometimes see people get into this mindset

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, this species from South America or something.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>They're just these horrible pests. It's not that the animals

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>themselves are horrible. I mean, they didn't do anything wrong.

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>They're just trying to live. The problem is they're suddenly

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>living in an ecosystem that was not prepared for them,

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're they're disrupting that ecosystem and causing rapid change

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>within it. Yeah, we're the ones who disrupted the balance.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>So you can't. You can't getting mad at the weights

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're the one who switched them around on the scales. Yeah.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>That being said, you you can try to exterminate the

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>weights in this case of the ants. All Right, we're

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna take one more break, and when we come back,

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss the ant on ant action, the ant war

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>between the fire ants and the crazy ants. Alright, we're back.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>It's fire ants versus crazy ants. How does this epic

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>war go down? Robert, You've got to tell me. Is

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>there a fire ant or any kind of ant Mexican

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>wrestler or Japanese wrestler. Oh, well, there are some. There

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>are some sort of uh, there are some ant based

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>wrestlers out of believe it's with Chakara, which is a

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>US independent pro wrestling group, and they have a whole

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>slew of ants. There's like fire ant soldier AUNT and

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>they're all mass wrestlers. Yeah, how did I guess this?

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>It just it it rights itself. You would just assume

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>there would be AUNT wrestlers, and there are. I bet

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>they're a good tag team, right, because answer great team players,

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe. So. I'm not a I'm not a big

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Chakara viewer, but my understanding is they have uh they're

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like like tag team and six man tag team specialist. Yes, well,

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>let's imagine that the team they're going up against is

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>a team of fire ants. You've got a team of

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>crazy ants, crazy ant wrestlers going up against fire ant wrestlers.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna win this battle? Turns out the crazy ants,

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the crazy ants are gonna win even though the crazy

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>ants they're small, Uh that they don't have this powerful

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>scary sting like the fire ants do. Like you get

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>some fire ants on you sting you. That is a

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a bad day, and it's gonna be some bad

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>days like that. That hurts. Uh. The crazy ants, while

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>they can be incredibly irritating if you've got an infestation

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>in your home, their bite has been described as barely noticeable.

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not too painful to humans. Yeah, by humans,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>always important to know when we're dealing with miniscule species.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But then again, it speaks to the power of the

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>fire ant that we're all aware of what a fire

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>ant can do, so much so that we all know

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>what it means when EO. Wilson j M's his hand

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>into the fire ant nest and you see them just

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>joyfully beaming with the ant pain. But anyway, Yeah, you've

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 1>got these competitors red fire ants or Solenopsis invicta and

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the crazy ants or Nylon diarya fulva. And when they

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>come together, the crazy ants apparently win. So how do

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the crazy ants generally protect themselves? Well, there's a good

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>article by Dina Fine marin inteen called the Rise of

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the Crazy Ants and Scientific American UH, and it profiles

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>some good research in science from by Lebron, Jones and

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert about chemical warfare between crazy ants and fire ants,

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>And so one of the first things you would observe

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>is that if you've got equal numbers of fire ants

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and crazy ants that show up, they've got equally matched

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>tag teams, and they show up to fight, the crazy

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>ants win about ninety three percent of the time. That's

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a really good record. Yeah, that is that they are.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>They are the victors by far. Does any wrestler win

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>of the time stone cold? Um? Well, I I don't know,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, some some have phenomenally high, you know, win

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>win records. You know. It's just it depends who's the

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>top character in a promotion, I guess, and that would

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>definitely be the crazy ant here, probably because they would

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>be the most popular. Fans love the crazy ant. Yeah.

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just these in vivo matchups. Uh, there's

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>colony snatching. Sometimes crazy ant colonies are found inside fire

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>ant mounds that still have some fire ants in them alive,

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>meaning that these nests were not abandoned by fire ants

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and then ex appropriated by crazy ants. They were actively

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>invaded while the fire ants were still there and the

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>crazy ants took over. So the way the crazy ants

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>are able to do this is that they can secrete

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>substances from their glands, one of which is formic acid

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that was already shown to be a weapon that could

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>be sprayed at attackers. There's a study in Toxicon in

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>teen by gian Chin. It all called Defensive Chemicals of

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Tawny crazy Ants Nyland Area Fulva. Actually it's got a

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>long title. I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>basically it says that Nyland Area Fulva they produce formic

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>acid in their poison glands and then two keytones and

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>alkanes in their dufes glands, all of which are used

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>as toxic weapons against fire ants. So they've got these

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>poisons they use. The DeFord Land compounds are used more

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>as contact poisons. They're more potent if you like dab

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>some on the enemy, whereas the formic acid has a

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>higher fumigation toxicity, so that's like gassing your enemy. So

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>they have both melee and ranged weapons at their disposal. Basically,

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it is true, and in a high enough concentration, formic

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>acid can even be an inhalation hazard to humans, causing

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>like lung edema, you know, fluid in the lungs. But

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>fortunately you don't have to worry about ants producing it

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>in a high enough concentration that's going to hurt you,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but they could hurt other ants. I was a little

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>bit interested in formic acid because I was reading about

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it and I found you know, okay, so it seems

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like this has been known about for a while and

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it's actually been used in in in some human industry. Well,

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I found an extract of a letter about the discovery

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of formic acid in ants in the seventeenth century that

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>was written by a guy named John Ray to the

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 1>publisher of Philosophical Transactions in sixteen seventy. It was called

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>concerning some uncommon observations and experiments made with acid juice

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to be found in ants juice spelled ju y c e.

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>And I gotta be honest. The main reason I wanted

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to explore this is because I learned a new word.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a note quote concerning the juice of piss myres

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>piss myers. What's a pismire? Well, I did not know

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>this word before. Piss Myers means ants, and yes, it

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>is pronounced piss mere, and it comes from the route

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you're wondering about right now, named after the supposed smell

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of ant hills at the time. So my is meant

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>ants an ant hill smell like urine. That was the idea. Huh,

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know that I've ever really stopped

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and smelled the ant hills. Maybe I should. I'm not

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>enjoying life enough. Apparently, now it makes sense where the

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>phrase piss aunt comes from. Yeah, okay, it means piss.

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Myers always ant. I always thought it was just the

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>random combination of two things, like, oh that that guy's

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>really a poop duck. You know, there's nothing, there's not

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>necessarily connection there, but you you put two things together

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like an insult. What's you know? So

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I assume piss aunt was the same thing. No, but

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>apparently this is not vulgar phrase at all. This is

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>seventeenth century scientific journal stuff. There you go. But anyway,

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>A Ray considers the the author of this letter, he's

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>been writing about this experiment he read about where somebody

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>would drop chickory leaves among an ant hill and it

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>would cause the chickery leaves to change color, indicating some

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of chemical reaction. And he's wondering what's going on there,

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and he discovers that the juice of Pissmire's is an acid,

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>causing similar effects to oil of vitriol, which means sulfuric acid.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And in the end of his letter he writes, quote, Indeed,

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it seems strange that nature should prepare and separate in

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the body of this insect without and sensible heat, and

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that in good quantity, considering the bulk of the animal

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a liquor. The same for kind with those acid spirits

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>which are by art extracted out of some mimeralds, not

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>without great force of fire. So I like that he's marveling, Like,

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, how is it that ants can produce this

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>powerful poison? But we can't do make anything that's powerful

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>without some kind of serious alchemy. But another interesting little

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 1>hidbit I came across is that formic acid is used

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>by humans and things. Of course, it's used as an

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 1>antibacterial preservative for things like livestock feed. But I've also

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>read some stories just in recent months about how formic

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>acid could be used as a liquid hydrogen carrier for

0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>fuel cell technology. So what if the electronics of future

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>are powered by fuel cells containing the same defensive poisons

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>used by Pissmires that shored out an invade current day

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>electronics in the Gulf States. Oh my goodness. Yeah, you're

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>imagining a future in which the uh, the engine itself

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>is a is a colony of some sort of crazy ants.

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I like it. It's like back to the future, except

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of the the garbage disposal that powers the futuristic

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to lorient, it's just he needs to dock has to

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>find another crazy ant colony to shovin there. I think

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 1>they really sad thing is that they're not like milking

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>ants to get the formic acid. I think they. I

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 1>think they make it in an industrial process, but how

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>how disappointing. Man, I can still dream. But who knows,

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe we could change all that if somebody invents

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a really efficient ant milking machine. Anyway, Anyway, anyway, getting

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>back to the role of the formic acid in the

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>ants defense. So we know they can use it as

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>an offensive weapon against enemies like the at the red

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>fire ant. But this Lebron paper from what it found

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>was really interesting. So they found that when crazy ants

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>get into battles with red fire ants, they do this

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>really weird series of behaviors. The crazy ant encounters red

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 1>fire ant, then the crazy ant rears up on its

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hind and middle legs. Then it does this unbelievable body

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>contortion where it curls its body all the way around

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to touch its mandibles to the tip of its abdomen.

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Then it starts doing something that looks like self grooming,

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>rubbing a secretion around on its body. So what's going

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on there? Well, researchers experimented by placing a tiny dab

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of nail polish on the crazy ants glandular opening on

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the abdomen, and this would block the opening and prevent

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it from secreting whatever it normally secretes, and so this

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>was the test group. They also placed a small dab

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of nail polish on the sides of the abdomen of

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>control group. This dab would not block any secretions. And

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>then of course you've got ant fight, right, crazy ants

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>versus fire ants. So in the control group that just

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>had the just had the nail polish on the sides

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and they could still secrete from the abdomen. The control

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>group survived fire ant attacks almost a hundred percent of

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the time the crazy ants were just killing it. But

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>in the experimental group, roughly half of the crazy ants

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>were killed by fire ants, and among the ones that

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>survived it may have been because the nail polish didn't

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>completely cover the opening, so some secretions got through. So

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>apparently the formic acid is not just a weapon, it

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:40.479
<v Speaker 1>is a defensive body shield as well, protecting the ant

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 1>from the venomous attacks of its competitors. And so also

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>from the labrun study, the researchers tested whether the formic

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>acid would protect another ant species from the venom of

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the fire ant, and they found yep. Among a third

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>ant species, those given a placebo were killed by fire

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>ants about eighty percent of the time, while those treated

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>with the crazy ants formic acid secretions almost all of

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>them survived. So how does the formic acid produce this

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>sort of body shield that protects the ant. We don't

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>really know yet the secrets of ant warfare. There's always

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>more to discover, you know. It makes me think about, um,

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 1>how two different kinds of animals they live in a

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 1>in a different arena of competition. And now, obviously fighting

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>between ants will involve some kind of like mechanical action

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and shearing, pressure and pushing and all the kind of

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff we imagine when we're fighting. But when we imagine

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>big mammals fighting, it's all like force. You're delivering energy

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to one another. You're biting and twisting and cutting and stuff,

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and and that's how animals like us fight And because

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of that, I think a lot of our fighting perception

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is based on things like movement and distance. You know,

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to see like how far something is from

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>us and how asked it's moving. And when you're on

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the scale of an ant, the theater of perception and

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>conflict is so much more chemical. It's all about what

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>chemicals are present in the immediate area, what pheromones are

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>telling you about what's going on around you, what pheromones

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you can put out that will do, you know and like?

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And because you're so small and the conflict itself is

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 1>so largely venomous and chemical in nature. Yeah, But then

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, you are they. You know, we

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>want to think about the individual ant, but you have

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>such a use social organization here with an aunt colony

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that it's uh, it's far from a one from one

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for one you you'd have to think of yourself as

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the colony really, I think to get anywhere close to

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>imagining what it is to be ant, Yeah, that's a

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>good point to remind us. It's like it might actually,

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>if you could understand the mind of an ant, to

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever extent there is such a thing as the mind

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of an ant, it might not make sense to be

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the mind of an individual aunt. It might maybe there

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>really is no such thing as an individual aunt. I mean,

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, there is the object of a single aunt body,

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't really that's not really a biological unit

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>as much as the colony is the unit. Yeah, Like,

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we fall into traps two of our our language I've

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I've read before regarding bees. Another famous youth social insect,

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of course, is that we we we know the Queen

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Bee is not an actual queen, and yet just by

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>referring to her as such, by approaching bees with with

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>human models in our mind, we think of her as

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 1>being some sort of an authority figure. We can't. It's

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>so easy to fall into that trap when really she

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>is another cog in the machine. Yeah, I propose we

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>replaced the phrase queen be with gene b. It's the

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>b who's the vehicle for genes for the next generation. Yeah,

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I like that we should push through that gene b

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 1>gene b. But not like not like the name is gene.

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Well maybe it's j E A and it's you know,

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the feminine gene that will work. That'll work all right,

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.520
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