1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay, 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: We are joined by Toulci Gabbern Now. She's a former 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: US representative for Hawaii's second congressional district, former presidential candidate, 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Lieutenant colonel in the United States Army Reserve's got a 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: book coming out in April, for Love of Country, Leave 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party Behind. Tolci, Great to have you on 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: the show. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: Hey, good afternoon. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 5: Good to talk to you. Guys. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: We have so much we want to go over to you, 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: but can we start with there seems to be in 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: this audience and I don't know if you'd be familiar 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: with this until we tell you, but a draft Tulsi 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: as a Trump VP option caucus. I mean, there's a 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: lot of people that write in and tell us this 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: is what they want to hear about. Would you consider that? 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 6: I would? 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: Thanks for sharing that with me. By the way, I 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: wasn't aware, but of course I would. My interest and 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: goal has always been trying to find the best place 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 5: that I can serve our country and make a positive impact. 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: We have so many challenges that we're facing right now. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: This election is absolutely critical. And what I'm finding is 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 5: I'm traveling across the country speaking to many of the 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: points that I wrote about in my book about why 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 5: I left the Democratic Party and how today's Democrat elite 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: are doing their very best to destroy our democracy just 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: so that they can hold on to power. And I 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: got to tell you, there's a lot of folks out 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: there who feel politically homeless right now. Some of them 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 5: may still technically be Democrats, but don't feel any connection 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 5: to those in power in the Democratic Party. Some are 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 5: independents and others, and they I'm encouraging them to look 36 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: at what is really happening in this country to reject 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 5: the Democrats. And I hate to say it's just Joe Biden, 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: because as you both know very well, it's not. Someone 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: asked me last night at Seapeckle, do you think they're 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: going to replace Joe Biden. I said, I don't know. 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 5: Maybe they will, but what difference will that really make? 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: Whether it's Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or whoever else 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: they may put forward, they all stand for the same 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: policies that are destroying our democracy and undermining our freedom, 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: undermining the rule of law, doing everything they possibly can 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 5: simply to hold on to power, and that's a threat 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: to us. 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 7: All tall Sie appreciate you coming on. I don't know 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 7: if you've heard the audio. We played it for our 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 7: audience earlier, but the ladies on the View had a 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 7: huge discussion about you and they said, you're a Russian asset. 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 7: Vladimir Putin has got control of you. On paraphrasing. When 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 7: you hear people say that, and it's not just random 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 7: people online, I mean the View is distributed by ABC News. 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 7: It is got crazily to me, a substantial audience of viewers. 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: What do you think. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 7: What is your response when you hear people say, like 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 7: they did on the View, that you're a Russian asset? 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you know they they said all 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: of those things about me when I ran for president 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty, and it wasn't limited to the View, 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 5: as you know, Hillary Clinton was one of the main 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: propagators of that lie. And I actually took the View 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: ladies to task on that, Joy Behart specifically when they 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: invited me on the show, and reminded all of them 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: and their viewers about how much I love our country. 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 5: I'm proud to wear the uniform of the cloth of 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: this country. I'm proud to serve in the Army now 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: for over twenty years, to served in Congress for eight 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: years on the Armed Services and the Foreign Affairs committees, 72 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 5: trusted with some of the most classified information that we have. 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: I'm willing to die for our country. And to my knowledge, 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 5: not a single woman on the View has ever put 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: their lives on the line for our country, or perhaps 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: even thought about it. So when I hear people, and 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 5: they're not the only ones resorting to this, obviously we're 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 5: hearing this now being drummed up again about Donald Trump. 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: What I hear is they have nothing left but to 80 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: play the Russian asset card because they know they can't 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 5: win on the issues. They know they can't win in 82 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: a fair argument or debate or any conversation of substance. 83 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: And this is not just limited to Democrats. There's a 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 5: woman on the View who I saw as she claims 85 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 5: to be a normy Republican, whatever that means, but she 86 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 5: is parroting the very same line that these Democrats and 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton are parroting. And these are the very same 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: people who want to continue to take us into more counterproductive, 89 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 5: unnecessary wars. They're not looking out for the American people, 90 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: they're not looking out for our country, and they don't 91 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 5: care about the Constitution. So I don't think we should 92 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: pay much attention to them. 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: Tulsi. Last time I saw you, we talked a bit 94 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: about the situation in Maui after the horrible wildfire that 95 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: happened there and the tremendous loss of property and life, 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: the bid administration response, and what's happened since then. How 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: can you bring us up to speed on what the 98 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: status is in the aftermath of that tragedy, which was 99 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: only a few months back. 100 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: Yes, the aftermath is still being felt. There are no 101 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 5: homes yet being rebuilt on the land that was destroyed 102 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 5: by the wildfire. And I so appreciate you bringing this 103 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: up back. But because the families who are displaced are 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 5: still homeless, that's the bottom line. Some have them put 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 5: up in hotels or airbnbs, that they are still without 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 5: a place that they can call home. FEMA and the 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: Biden administration, including a lot of the state and county government, 108 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: their response was abysmal from the beginning. I would say, 109 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: probably some of it has improved in the sense that 110 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 5: at least people aren't living in tents, they have a 111 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: hard roof over their heads. But the fact that it's 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: actually been several months August of last year was when 113 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 5: this fire occurred. There is so much more that could 114 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 5: have been done more quickly to help them, rather than 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 5: leaving them in the way that they are still stranded 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: so many months later. Pete boudhaj Edge was just out 117 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 5: there in Hawaii this past week, and so he was 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: asked a lot of questions by people locally about what 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 5: they're doing within the Department of Transportation to help alleviate 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: some of the situations they're facing on that side of 121 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 5: the island. 122 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 4: Unmui. 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: But much like we saw with Biden visiting East Palestine, 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: Ohio more than a year after their just with the 125 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 5: chemical spill that they felt in the aftershocks and the aftermath, 126 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: they are still suffering. You know, I just my heart 127 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: goes out to them because they are not getting anywhere 128 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: near the care and attention and advocacy and frankly emotion 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: that we're hearing from the Biden administration about the war 130 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 5: in Ukraine when and that was one of the first things. 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 5: And I don't remember if I told you Buck when 132 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 5: I saw you, but three days after the fire, when 133 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: I was there on Maui, that was some of the 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: first things that the residents there told me was, Hey, 135 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: I wonder if we changed our name to Ukraine or Kiev, 136 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 5: then maybe somebody would pay attention to us. 137 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 7: Tulsey, you and I have I think we're around the 138 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 7: same age and we have a similar political path where 139 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 7: you were obviously a Democrat congresswoman. I voted Democrat and 140 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 7: past elections. I've talked about this, and one reason I'm 141 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 7: super optimistic is I do think there are enough open 142 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 7: minded people in America to recognize these awful choices that 143 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 7: the Democrats are making now. When you travel the country. 144 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 7: You got a book, I know coming out in April. 145 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 7: Do you meet a lot of people who tell you 146 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 7: that they've had the same political evolution as you have? 147 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 7: Because I do meet a lot of people when I 148 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 7: go around the country. Buck's different. You know, at fifteen 149 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 7: he knew he knew exactly what he thought, and he 150 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 7: stayed consistent growing up in New York City. You know, 151 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 7: he's truly a unicorn in some sense. But you and 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 7: I are a little bit more similar in our political paths. 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 7: I'm curious how much positive feedback and also people telling 154 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 7: you that they have followed you. I think Elon Musk 155 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 7: is a good example maybe of this as well. How 156 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 7: many people do you meet who maybe have had the 157 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 7: same political evolution as the two of us? 158 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: You know, I'm glad you brought that up, because it 159 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 5: is almost every day, Clay. It's it's whether it's people 160 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: I'm meeting in person. I just got off a plane 161 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: and met someone in the airport as I was waiting 162 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: for my luggage, people sending me notes online or dms 163 00:08:54,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: on social media. People who feel more in boldened to 164 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: know that they are not alone in the way that 165 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: they feel, and that you know, in my case, I'm 166 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: using whatever platform I have to bring voice to these 167 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: concerns and frustrations that a lot of them feel and 168 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: have been feeling for quite some time. Some people, maybe 169 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: for generational or family legacy reasons, haven't taken that step 170 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 5: yet to leave the Democratic Party, but in their hearts, 171 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: they can't vote for Joe Biden. They can't vote for 172 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: the people who are causing such harm to our country 173 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 5: in so many respects. You know, I talk to parents 174 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: who aren't politically involved, but they are feeling the hurt 175 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 5: of you know, hey, I've got an eight year old 176 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 5: little girl who's you know, wants to compete in gymnastics. 177 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 5: Am I going to have to worry about her competing 178 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 5: against the boy? Obviously the female athletes who are swimmers. 179 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: I have friends who are surfers at the highest leve 180 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 5: who are afraid to speak out about the fact that 181 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: the World Surf League has said that biological men can 182 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: compete against them in the world championship contests and what 183 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: does that mean for their livelihood and their future. There 184 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 5: are a lot of people who have been silent, who 185 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 5: have been politically disengaged, who are now waking up. And 186 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: that's where our that's where I find hope and opportunity 187 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: in this election, especially given all that at stake, to 188 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 5: really encourage people, if nothing else, make sure you get 189 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: out and cast your informed vote to stop this insanity. 190 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: Just as we're here, we get an email from one 191 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: of our VIPs, Mark, Gentlemen, there's evidence that Trump may 192 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: be giving serious consideration to Tulsi Gabbard for VP. So 193 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: this is an ongoing conversation among our listeners on five 194 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: hundred stations. So Telsey, appreciate you being here with us. 195 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: We love to have you come back and talk more 196 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: about all these issues and also about this twenty twenty 197 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: election cycle and when's the book coming out. 198 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: The book comes out April thirtieth. We are encouraging folks, 199 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 5: if you're interested, pre ordered now. If you have a 200 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 5: friend or maybe a spouse or a son or daughter 201 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 5: who is maybe one of those people we're talking about 202 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 5: who doesn't quite know where they're at in this election, 203 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 5: and if maybe walking this journey themselves, buy the book 204 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: for them. It's available on Amazon dot com right now. 205 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 5: It's called for Love of Country, Leave the Democrat Party behind. 206 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: Tulci Gabbert, everybody, Tulsi, thanks again. 207 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 5: Thank you both. Alloha. 208 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 7: Tons of positivity rolling in for Tulci Gabbert. I'm not 209 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 7: surprised she was really good. I thought one in particular, Sarah, 210 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: one of our VIPs. You can sign up for the vip. 211 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 7: You can watch us for three hours if you want 212 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 7: a video every single day behind the paywall at Clay 213 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 7: and Buck. Sarah says, I've been thrilled for three days 214 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 7: at the prospect of Tulsi as VEEP. After this conversation, 215 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 7: I'm convinced she's awesome. This would be a game game changer. 216 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 7: Name her Trump. Look, I do think her calling out 217 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 7: the ladies of the view Buck and saying, I don't 218 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 7: think any of them have ever risked their life for 219 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 7: the country. So that's a pretty good line when you're saying, oh, 220 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 7: she's a Russian asset. 221 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: Pretty well played. 222 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: We mean joy Behar wasn't for deployed in Ramadi, kicking indoors, 223 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: taking it to the foreign fighters. 224 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 7: Very well played I think by Tulci Gabbertt. I thought 225 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 7: she was really pretty outstanding. And obviously this builds on 226 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 7: the drama that Trump is going to continue to create. 227 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 7: We expect tomorrow, Buck for Trump to win comfortably in 228 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 7: South Carolina. I think at that point it will really 229 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 7: be virtually impossible. Even if Vicky Haley saying I'm going 230 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 7: to stay in till what is it, March fifth? I 231 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 7: think is super Tuesday in like two weeks basically, or 232 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 7: a little bit over a week after Saturday. 233 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: What do you what do you think of the chances 234 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: that she loses by a lot and then within a 235 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: week tries to clear the pathway to hop on the 236 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: Trump train, and the Trumpster says there is no room 237 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: on the train. 238 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: No. 239 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 7: I think look, Trump would take her endorsement. I think 240 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 7: what she's done is cancel out any possibility she's involved 241 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 7: with the Trump administration because of the way that she's handled. 242 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 7: I think Trump would say, look, I appreciate Nikki Haley's endorsement. 243 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 7: He would say nice things. He said nice things about 244 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 7: everybody who's endorsed him. I think that's one of his 245 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 7: I would say really positive traits in general is. 246 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: That he doesn't hold grudges. 247 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 7: A lot of politicians, they spend years marinating on something 248 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 7: mean that somebody said. 249 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: That is not Trump. I think he would accept her endorsement. 250 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact 251 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: with Clay and. 252 00:13:54,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 7: Buck Ryan Gerdusky, who was sharing an interesting poll that 253 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 7: we started off the show discussing the Siena New York 254 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 7: State poll, and Ryan, we bring you on because we 255 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 7: like you to break down the data for us, and 256 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 7: I want to start with the question that I started 257 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 7: the show with today and that was according to that poll, 258 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 7: Donald Trump now leads in New York State among Jewish voters. 259 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 7: I believe the number was fifty three to forty four. 260 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 7: Did that surprise you? Does it have staying power? Have 261 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 7: we seen a shift based on October seventh? How would 262 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 7: you analyze this as it pertains to the Jewish vote 263 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 7: not only in New York but potentially around the country. 264 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 8: So there have been three polls of all the Jewish 265 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 8: votes since October the seventh in about New York State, 266 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 8: all by Sienna and Trump's numbers among Jewish voters in 267 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 8: the subset of the Siena poll went from twenty nine 268 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 8: percent on October fifteenth to fifty four percent in fifty 269 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 8: three percent rather in the latest poll that came out today. 270 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 8: It's a significant shift. It's very, very high, and nationwide, 271 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 8: we don't know the exact number, but he got about 272 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 8: thirty to thirty three percent of the Jewish vote in 273 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 8: twenty twenty nationwide. I'm not exactly sure of New York. 274 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 8: New York, unlike other places with a significant New York 275 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 8: has the largest Jewish population in the country nine percent 276 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 8: of the entire state is Jewish, but it also has 277 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 8: one of the largest Orthodox and Hasidic populations, which tend 278 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 8: to be far more republican, not just by the average 279 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 8: Jewish voter, but far more Republican than the average voter, 280 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: and Orthodox and Hasidic voters, especially on federal issues, both 281 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 8: very very very very republican. So what we could be 282 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 8: seeing in New York and the reason why New York 283 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 8: moves so far right could be because the Pole could 284 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 8: have oversampled Orthodox and Hasidic voters. Or it could be 285 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 8: that just these voters are just moving to the right 286 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 8: over several issues, especially with the growth of anti Semitism 287 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 8: that we've seen from the far left in this country. 288 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: Hey, Ryan, it's Buck. You know the migrant situation in 289 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: New York. We're just talking about the Jewish vote in 290 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: New York. Migrant situation is obviously also getting a lot 291 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: of national attention. There's this video of cops fighting at 292 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: Randalls Island, which is where I used to play high 293 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: school sports. This is a side note that we used 294 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: to have the facilities there for basketball, so I'm not basketball, 295 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: a soccer, football, you know, outdoor sports, and they've now 296 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: turned it into a refugee camp. I mean, there's a 297 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: refugee camp on Randalls Island. NYPD having to fight and 298 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: kick and punch with the migrants who are throwing chairs 299 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: at them and everything else in this three thousand bed facility. 300 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: It felt like the Democrats believe they had it all 301 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: moving in, you know, or they thought they had a 302 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: strategy with this bill that then Republicans in the Senate 303 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: did not go along with. But what are we seeing 304 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: in terms of actual perception and numbers on that one, 305 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 3: because now they're saying Biden may take matters into his 306 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: own hands, and it's like, well, hold on, I thought 307 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: he couldn't do that. 308 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 8: Before, right, I mean, Biden always had the ability to 309 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 8: do something on immigration. This is not like this is 310 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 8: the first president who's ever had a border crisis. We've 311 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 8: had every president recent presidence at a border crisis of 312 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 8: one from the other, and every presence done executive things. 313 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 8: I mean, Joe Biden stood on the stage that he 314 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 8: would give free health care to illegal aliens, he wouldn't 315 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 8: deport them, and he would try to fast track away 316 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 8: for amnesty. So of course they came, and I think 317 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 8: what a lot of misperception from Democrat elected officials was was, well, 318 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 8: how bad could the border crisis be. We've dealt with 319 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 8: border crisis of a million people in the past before, 320 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 8: we've never dealt with a border crisis of seven million people. 321 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 8: In my comment I always make to deal is what 322 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 8: are you going to do when one hundred million people come? 323 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 8: Because if you continue to do what is going on, 324 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 8: one hundred million people will eventually make their way into 325 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 8: the United States of America, be dependent on the state, 326 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 8: overwhelm the systems, and this is will collapse. You have Massachusetts, 327 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 8: the state of Massachusetts just cut a state program dedicated 328 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 8: to funding firefighters for smaller or lower income municipalities in 329 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 8: the state to pay for their migrant crisis. In New 330 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 8: York State, we're looking at sanitation and police force cuts. 331 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 8: Denver's dealing with similar cuts. Chicago will deal with the 332 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 8: same exact thing. They cannot afford this micro crisis at 333 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 8: the level it is, and if Biden wins the second term, 334 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 8: it will I wouldn't be shocked if it doubled, and 335 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 8: it will one bankrupt many many municipalities or see vast, 336 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 8: vast spending cuts about these municipalities. So as far as 337 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 8: it as far as it goes with with Democrats, I mean, 338 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 8: you saw Thomas Wasey in the special election New York 339 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 8: third talk about needing to create, you know, some kind 340 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 8: of plan that'sists that there, and militarize the border and 341 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 8: protect the border. I think Democrats are, especially in swing areas, 342 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 8: are seeing the writing on the wall. There was a 343 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 8: bill to make duys and Social Security for fraud a 344 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 8: deportable offense, and every Democrat in the country in a 345 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 8: moderate to swing district voted in favor of the bill. 346 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 8: It was only Democrats in deep, deep blue districts that 347 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 8: voted against us. But I think the perception is there, 348 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 8: and the perception the Democrats of our week on the 349 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 8: border is going to be very hard to shake with 350 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 8: or without this single bill. 351 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: We're talking to Ryan Gerdueski. 352 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 7: Ryan, I want to go back to that Ciena poll 353 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 7: because the other thing that stood out to me was 354 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 7: Trump wins. I think it was forty seven forty one 355 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 7: something like that among male voters. That is kind of 356 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 7: shocking for I think a lot of people. Trump would 357 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 7: win New York State if only men were voting. But 358 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 7: the gender gap is insane when it comes to women 359 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 7: and their rejection of Trump. Is that the story written 360 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 7: large to you in many ways for twenty twenty four, 361 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 7: and I understand there's a difference Buck and I talked 362 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 7: about it between married women and single women. It's really 363 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 7: single women that are really turning their backs on Trump 364 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 7: in the Republican Party in general. 365 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: But correct me if I'm wrong. 366 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 7: I think if only men voted, Trump would win fifty 367 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 7: states basically, and if only women voted, Biden would win 368 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 7: fifty states. We're setting up for potentially the biggest gender 369 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 7: imbalance maybe that we've ever seen. Do you see that 370 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 7: ameliorating changing somewhat or are we locked and loaded on 371 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 7: one of the biggest gender gaps of all time. 372 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 8: Well, you know, if this is the fact that it's 373 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 8: only men voted with the last Democrat we would have 374 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 8: elected in this country was Lyndon Johnson in nineteen sixty four, that's. 375 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: An amazing stat Repeat that again. 376 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 7: So the only if only men voted, the last Democrat 377 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 7: that would have won was Lyndon Johnson in nineteen sixty four. 378 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 8: Yes, it's the last time the Democrats won the mail vote. Yeah, 379 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 8: it's it's it's it is. It's the nineteenth Amendment. But 380 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 8: that is that is ultimately what changed it. And yeah, 381 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 8: that is I mean the young female vote. And there's 382 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 8: a lot of places, and younger women are more radicalized. 383 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 8: They are more democratic than younger men are, and it's 384 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 8: increasing that. I mean between college, the loss of religion, 385 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 8: and the lack of prospects for marriage, which are the 386 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 8: three things that push women to bot more republican. All 387 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 8: those three things are enabling women to become more radicalized 388 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 8: in progressive beliefs and that I don't know how that 389 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 8: changes or when that changes, but that is what's happening. 390 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 8: And on the flip side, you're seeing younger men becoming 391 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 8: more republican and more conservative in their beliefs as well. 392 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 8: And there's a huge problem in the sense that younger people, 393 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 8: people under these eighteen don't date that often. They delay 394 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 8: adulthood for longer and longer periods of time. They don't 395 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 8: drive as early as as they'll work as early as 396 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 8: older generations do. There's a book Holds Generations by Gene Tweppie, 397 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 8: the author who talks a lot about this, and that's 398 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 8: a huge problem going forward. But it is the great 399 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 8: gender to and I don't know how that happens or 400 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 8: how it fixes. It's just a matter of do married 401 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 8: women sit there and show up in the polls and 402 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 8: do unmarried men show up because unmarried women, the Democratic 403 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 8: Party has become not only their hobby and their political 404 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 8: belief but also their church in many cases. 405 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 7: No, that's so fascinating. And by the way, quickly here 406 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 7: and then Buck wants to dive in. But when you 407 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 7: were saying that, does the data reflect that women become 408 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 7: more conservative when they get married or men become more liberal? 409 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 7: In other words, when we get the marriages here, what 410 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 7: does the data show us? 411 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 8: Usually it's what who has the stronger beliefs in the 412 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 8: in the marriage. I mean, if you marry, if you 413 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 8: are a moderate voter and you marry a very conservative 414 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 8: or liberal person, you will tend to reflect the beliefs 415 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 8: your moderation will will will decrease, and you will have 416 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 8: the beliefs of whoever you marry. It's a lot like religion. 417 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 8: The kids will often follow their religion of a parent 418 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: who is more religious. 419 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: Ryan Gardowski with us and his substack, which you should 420 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: check out, is the National Populace newsletter. Ryan. Thank you, 421 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: you're very straightforward on your assessment of things. One of 422 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: the reason we like having you on. What is Nikki 423 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: Hayley doing. We've got a few days before South Carolina. 424 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: What is the play here? What is the plan? 425 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 8: I mean, look, what does she have to lose by staying? 426 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 8: I always say, she doesn't have a job to go 427 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 8: home to, the kids are grown, the husband's out in 428 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 8: the military, there is nothing. She's always wants run for president. 429 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 8: I mean, so she takes this position where she doesn't 430 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 8: drop out until Trump gets the needed delegates, which is 431 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 8: basically I think what CRUs did last time in sixteen, 432 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 8: and what other people have done in the past, they 433 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 8: just waited out New Gingrish didn't winstate for a long 434 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 8: time before he dropped out. And you know, if something 435 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 8: happens to Trump, something happens with this hell, something happens 436 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 8: with I don't know whatever, and she's the nominee. What 437 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 8: does she have to lose? I mean, so why not 438 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 8: pick up a few delegates. She's already made history in 439 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 8: this election, the first presidential candidate lose to nobody. And 440 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 8: she's also the first woman Republican to ever win a 441 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 8: county in a primary. So I mean, she can hang that, 442 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 8: you know, on her you know, on her crown, and 443 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 8: just stay there because she's got nothing. There's nothing to 444 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 8: do when she goes home she'll go work for Boeming 445 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 8: or something like that. But she's got she does nothing 446 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 8: to lose, not like she's gonna run for her Senate 447 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 8: of South Carolina or something like that. 448 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 7: All right, Ryan, if the election we're sitting almost at 449 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 7: what is it, eight months out? If the election were today, 450 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 7: all right, I'm putting you on this spot. 451 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 8: Obama was not the nominee. 452 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, Michelle, but yeah, okay, you and Buck can take 453 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 7: your tag team royal rubble, you know, close line. 454 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: It's a brilliant analyst of politics for those who don't know. 455 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: What would happen in the election today. 456 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 7: If if tomorrow was election day, what do you think 457 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 7: the results would look like? 458 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 8: You know, I saw I always said that Biden still 459 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 8: had the advantage. I think that the DOJ report is 460 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 8: really just as damaging as it could possibly be. I've 461 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 8: never seen something like that before as far as what, 462 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 8: you know what, It's just at the end of the day, Listen, 463 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 8: the major states that are at play are going to 464 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 8: be it's eight states to decide this entire election. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Arizona, Nevada, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, 465 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 8: and maybe New Hampshire. Who becomes into play. It's very 466 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 8: very few states. Most of those states are ninety to 467 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 8: ninety five percent black white states, of the exception of 468 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 8: Florida and Arizona and Nevada. In North Carolina and Georgia, 469 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 8: I forget those two. Those states will decide this election. 470 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 8: I think that the three big questions that I don't 471 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 8: have the answer to right now. Does RFK get on 472 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 8: the ballot? Number one, because I heard from top Biden 473 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 8: officials that that is one of their biggest biggest concerns, 474 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 8: is that RFK gets ballid access. Number two, Does the 475 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 8: black vote decrease? In twenty sixteen, the black vote was 476 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 8: thirteen percent of the twelve percent of the population a 477 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 8: national population national vote. In twenty twenty it was thirteen percent. 478 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 8: It was like one point three percent higher. That was 479 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 8: the deciding factor in twenty twenty, it was the black vote. Lastly, 480 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 8: if Trump is going to lose the college educated votes, 481 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 8: which are the college educated women vote, do non college 482 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 8: educated white voters, which are the bedrock of the Republican Party, 483 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 8: do they show up in full force? Those are the 484 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 8: three things that will decide this election. Everything else is 485 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 8: really just window dressing as far as just political punditry goes. 486 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 7: But I so you dodged it. Would you say Trump 487 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 7: is a favorite right now? If the election were tomorrow? 488 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 8: For the very first time, I really think that Trump 489 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 8: is becoming the favorite. Yeah, I do, for the first time. 490 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 8: I didn't believe that before him, but I do now. 491 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: I love it. You know, Ryan means it because he 492 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: doesn't want to say it. That's the great thing. He 493 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: doesn't like to get our hopes. See. 494 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: I hate making predictions, but that is for the very 495 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 8: first time. Between the DOJ report and between Biden's just 496 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 8: abysmal numbers and Kamala is just you know, there's just 497 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 8: no safe place to rest your eyes for the Biden campaign. 498 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 8: They're very confident at the same exact time. I just 499 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 8: I don't see how they're going to sit there and 500 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 8: pull this one out unless unless the black vote surges 501 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 8: to wreck high numbers or non college educated white voters 502 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 8: sit on their hands. But I don't think either one 503 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 8: of them are going to happen. 504 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: Ryan Gerdusky, he's awesome. Buck. What's the substack to be 505 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: able to follow him? 506 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: National Populist Newsletter? I am a happy subscriber. I recommend 507 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 3: it to you all. 508 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: Boom, there you go. Thank you, Ryan. We'll talk to 509 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: you again soon. 510 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 8: Thank you. 511 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in 512 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis end buck Sexton. 513 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: We are joined now by Eric Hovedy. He is a 514 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: businessman from Wisconsin, one of our favorite states, of course, 515 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: and he is running for United States Senate on the 516 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: Republican side in a critical race against Tammy Baldwin, the 517 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: incumbent Democrat. Eric. Great to have you on the program, Sir, Welcome. 518 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 4: Good afternoon. Great being on your show, gentlemen. 519 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: Appreciate you making the time. So let's start with this. 520 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: What are you going to do differently for the folks 521 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: of Wisconsin than the representation they've been getting by the 522 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: incumbent Democrat Tammy Baldwin. 523 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: Oh, a whole lot of difference. Look, Tammy Baldwin has 524 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 4: been a career politician, has spent thirty seven years in politics, 525 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: last twenty five in DC. She's never operated in the 526 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: real world, never had a private sector job, never has 527 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 4: had to buy insurance for herself. I've operated multiple different 528 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: companies and created a thousands of good paying jobs, but 529 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: I've had to buy health insurance. I've had to deal 530 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: with all the issues that tie into our economy. And 531 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: as most politicians, they just have no economic competency. They 532 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: don't understand how the economy works, certainly not our modern 533 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: financial economy. So my big number one focus is the economy, 534 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: hammering middle and lower income people and fixingcome people with inflation. 535 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: You know, real wages have declined in this country because 536 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: of the rate of inflation, and we just keep digging 537 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: ourselves deeper and deeper in debt, where we've added more 538 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 4: debt in the last three years, three and a half 539 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 4: years than our first country's first two hundred and thirty years. 540 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: So you know, she's voted for everything with Joe Biden 541 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: ninety five point five percent of the time. 542 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 7: Eric, we're going to get back to some serious questions here. 543 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 7: But I know you live in Madison and you're a 544 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 7: big Wisconsin Badger fan. What in the world has happened 545 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 7: to your basketball team? They've fallen apart. 546 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: It is so frustrating. You know, thankfully they beat Maryland 547 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: last night, but in a close game. But I mean 548 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: to be up consistently in the first half and give 549 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: it away. I'm not quite sure. I mean to me 550 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: the shot selection has been absolutely atrocious. At the end 551 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: of the game, you know that they were with Minnesota 552 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: neck and neck and they had the ball ti game. 553 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: All they needed was a two point shot and they 554 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: have Tucky Hepburn taking a three when you didn't need 555 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: to do that. They were scoring all their points driving 556 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: to the basket. So there's something that's gone wrong with 557 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: this team. Because they were number ten in the country 558 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: and now they're out of the top twenty. 559 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: It's all right. 560 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 7: I had to get that because you're right, they were 561 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 7: a top ten team. They've fallen apart here in the 562 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 7: Big ten season, down in the last couple of weeks. 563 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 7: So Wisconsin, we're going to be up there. We need 564 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 7: to get you on in person. When the Republican National 565 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 7: Convention is going on in Milwaukee. I'm sure you'll be 566 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 7: campaigning like crazy there. What are you hearing from people 567 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 7: on the ground in Wisconsin that is motivating people the 568 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 7: most right now? Is it immigration? Is it the economy? 569 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 7: What are you hearing from Wisconsin voters that they are 570 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 7: most fired up about? As we said eight months from 571 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 7: election day. 572 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 4: I would say the two things you just talked about. 573 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: It's the economy because people are struggling, there's no question 574 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: about it. Biden loves to talk about is jobs jobs. Well, 575 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: if you look at the increase in jobs this year, 576 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: most of it has been second jobs. It's people working 577 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: two jobs and they're having to do that because what 578 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: inflation has done to them. So I think that is 579 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: the biggest issue. Immigration, though, is becoming more and more significant. 580 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: In the state of Wisconsin, they just took we have 581 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: a town called Whitewater, twelve thousand citizens. They just took 582 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: and dropped one thousand people migrants, illegal immigrants into this community. 583 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: Now think of it. Our country is already struggling with 584 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: having enough housing and medical services and care for our 585 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 4: own citizens. Now you take this community of twelve thousand, 586 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: you basically increase the population by eight percent overnight. You know, 587 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: people can't get access to medical care. I don't know 588 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: if you guys saw what happened in Denver where they 589 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: literally put out and noticed that medical system. Residents don't 590 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: go to the emergency room because we're overwhelmed. What are 591 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: you going to do if you break your leg, or 592 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: you're having a stroke, or you're having allergic reaction to something, 593 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: you know, you're just supposed to sit there and die 594 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 4: or suffer. I mean, this is the insanity that what's happened. 595 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: The other issue that is very relevant to a lot 596 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: of people, and it breaks my heart, is, you know, 597 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 4: President Obama ended the war on drugs, what was ten 598 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: twelve years ago, and every year since you just the 599 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: amount of loss of young life to opiates and now fentanyl. 600 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: And look at where all that fentanyl's pouring over from 601 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: the southern border. So you hear that a lot of 602 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: people who have lost loved ones. And then I'd say 603 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: the last issue is crimed. You know, the left has 604 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: given us probably the dumbest idea of the last hundred years, 605 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: and that is deep on the police and ghost soft 606 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: on criminals and crime. I was just in South Milwaukee. 607 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 4: Everybody was talking about it. A woman was saying, my 608 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: car's been broken into four different times. I called the cops. 609 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: One time they said, did you get physically assaulted or hurt? 610 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: And she said no, then why are you bothering us? 611 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it's stunning what's happened to a lot of 612 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: our major cities. 613 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: We're speaking to Eric Hovevey. He's running for a critical, 614 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: critical Senate seat up in Wisconsin in the cycle against 615 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: Tammy Baldwin, the Democrat incumbent and Eric. You have a 616 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: unique perspective I like to bring to the border crisis 617 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: issue because you've been involved in philanthropy building homes for 618 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: people in developing countries around the world. What can you 619 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: tell us about that. 620 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I started the Huby Homes about twenty years 621 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: ago and rescuing street children because if you're abandoned to 622 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: the street, or you lost your parents or whatever it 623 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: may be, and you're living in a third or secon 624 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: in world country, you have been afflicted by everything, not 625 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: just homelessness, a lack of food, all the rest, but 626 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 4: quite often these children are views sexually trafficked and you know, 627 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 4: become blue addicts to suppress their hunger and their emotional pain. 628 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: So we have built homes nine around the world that 629 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: takes children in not only give some food, shelter, clothing, 630 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: but we give them skills, training and you know education. 631 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: But most importantly, we provide them love because the human 632 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: soul thrives on love. Everybody wants to love and be loved, 633 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: and these children have never had loved. So it's Christian base. 634 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: We have three in Central America. One of them explicitly 635 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 4: deals with young children that are sexually trafficked. All of 636 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: them touch that issue. With foreign Africa. One deals with 637 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 4: pulling children out of slavery that are captured or sold 638 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 4: off into on Lake Bolta. There's still a lot of 639 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: slavery in Africa and India and China. So these are 640 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 4: the what the homes do and and you know it's 641 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: providing loving care to those that have leased. 642 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 643 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 7: What can people who want to support your candidacy and 644 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 7: we look forward to meeting you in person in July 645 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 7: up in Milwaukee. But for people out there who want 646 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 7: to help you flip this seat back to Republican control, 647 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 7: how can they help? 648 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: Well, she's one of the three most liberal Democrats there is, 649 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 4: both with Biden ninety five point five percent of the time. 650 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: So go to Eric E, R C HUBD. That's ho 651 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: V isn't Victor D, isn't David E, isn't Edward ericcovdy 652 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 4: dot com. Love everybody's support and guys, thank you so 653 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: much for having me on your show. I hope you 654 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: have wonderful day, and I hope all your listeners have 655 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 4: a fantastic day as well. 656 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 7: We appreciate you if you want to go see Eric's announcement, 657 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: It's up at clayanbuck dot Com. Also links to his 658 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 7: website there. Good luck, sir, We'll talk to you again soon. 659 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 4: Fantastic. Take care. 660 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact 661 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: with Clay and Buck. 662 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 7: Nikki Haley has had a press conference to announce she 663 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 7: will not be dropping out. 664 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: I I mean. 665 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 7: I would think that would be self evident. I don't know. 666 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 7: Phil's fairly desperate as we get closer to Saturday. So 667 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 7: she's gonna lose in South Carolina and then she's gonna 668 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 7: lose basically everywhere on Super Tuesday. And what exactly is 669 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 7: the strategy here? I have absolutely no idea, she says, 670 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 7: I refuse to quit. Well, maybe play some of this 671 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 7: audio for you in a bit. South Carolina will vote 672 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 7: on Saturday, but on Sunday, I will still be running 673 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 7: for president. I'm not going anywhere. I'm campaigning every day 674 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 7: until the last person votes. I just, I mean again, 675 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 7: I give credit to Ron DeSantis and his team because 676 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 7: after Iowa, they put everything they had into Iowa. 677 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: They lost. 678 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 7: They came in second, but they lost and it wasn't 679 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 7: particularly close and they said there is no pathway for 680 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 7: us to be the nominee, and they dropped out. Nicki 681 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 7: Haley put everything she had into New Hampshire and she 682 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 7: lost by eleven or twelve. She's now putting everything she 683 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 7: has again into South Carolina and she's gonna lose, and 684 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 7: she's now saying I'm going to keep fighting afterwards. I 685 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 7: think it's very fair to ask where is her money 686 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 7: coming from and how much of that money is being 687 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 7: spent by people who support Joe Biden to try to 688 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 7: keep Donald Trump from officially having everything locked up. I 689 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 7: think Nicki Haley could have been a viable vice presidential candidate. 690 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 7: I think she should have come to Trump right after 691 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 7: certainly New Hampshire, and said, hey, what about the idea 692 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 7: of a unity ticket. Maybe not vice president, maybe its 693 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 7: secretary of state. Let's go ahead and put this to 694 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 7: bed instead. I think buck she's made a really bad 695 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 7: decision about how she's played this out. 696 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: Here we go, Here's twenty cut, twenty seven, Nikki Haley 697 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: vowing to fight on and saying that this primary will 698 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: continue and we'll discuss what that means play it. 699 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 6: I'm fighting for what I know is right, and I 700 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 6: don't care what the party leaders and political elites want. 701 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 6: I'll keep fighting until the American people closed the door. 702 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 6: That day is not today, and it won't be on Saturday, 703 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 6: not by a long shot. The presidential primaries have barely begun. 704 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 6: Just three states have voted. Three, that's it. After this 705 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 6: weekend we'll be at four. That's not a lot. In 706 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 6: the ten days after South Carolina, another twenty one states 707 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 6: and territories will vote. People have a right to have 708 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 6: their voices heard, and they deserve a real choice, not 709 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 6: a Soviet style election where there's only one candidate and 710 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 6: he gets ninety nine percent of the vote. 711 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 7: If you lose every state. Whoever is advising NICKI Haley, 712 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 7: I think is doing a really poor job of advising her, 713 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 7: unless buck she's interested in running on this no labels 714 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 7: ticket and she's trying to stay alive and she just 715 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 7: wants to completely sabotage Trump. I don't know if there's 716 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 7: any viability to that possibility, but I think it's worth 717 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 7: discussing at this point. 718 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: There's another option, and I will admit that I don't 719 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: know this, and it is it is cynical, but it 720 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: is based in some tendencies that we saw from Nicki 721 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: Haley right after she served as Trump's US Ambassador to 722 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: the United Nation, which I just like to point out. 723 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 3: You know, people were making an argument about Ron DeSantis 724 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: and saying that it was remember this, it was disloyal 725 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 3: for him to run against Trump, and people can make 726 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 3: of that what they will. Ronda Santis was never a 727 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: part of the Trump administration. Nikky Haley was. So I 728 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: think that if that argument applied at all for somebody, 729 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 3: then it should apply in this case even more substantially 730 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 3: more so. And I think my more cynical take on 731 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 3: this is, Look, she's getting big money from a Democrat. 732 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: We already know about that, right, I mean, that's there 733 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: are big money Democrats who are writing checks for the 734 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 3: Nicki Haley campaign. So she's allowing herself to be used 735 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 3: as at least a drain on time, resources and a 736 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 3: focus against Trump at this stage. And it might be 737 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: because she figures there's a big, fat corporate job in 738 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: it for her after this. That's very cynical, I understand. 739 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 3: But she was on the board of Boeing after doing 740 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: a lot of business with Boeing when she was a 741 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 3: governor of South Carolina. That's what got Vivek and her 742 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 3: so fiery with each other on stage. She does not 743 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 3: have another job, she does not have something else lined 744 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: up after this. It's not like she's still the governor 745 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 3: of somewhere, or she's still a senator or whatever. So 746 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: maybe it's this is what corporate America and the donor 747 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 3: class wants. So she stays in this a little bit longer, 748 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 3: and she ends up getting some board seats and some 749 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a gig speaking engagements. 750 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 3: Does that strink anyone as crazy? I don't know. 751 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 7: That's why I wonder if she's going to run as 752 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 7: a third party. If she's really in it for them, 753 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 7: then she's clearly doing that. 754 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 3: By the way, then she is actually just a pawn 755 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 3: of the moneyed elites in this country. 756 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 7: If she's really in it for the money, then she'll 757 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 7: run as a third party and try to keep Trump 758 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 7: from being elected. By the way, here she is saying, 759 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 7: I'm not going to kiss the ring. 760 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 6: Look, I get it. In politics, the herd mentality is 761 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 6: enormously strong. A lot of Republican politicians have surrendered to it. 762 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 6: The pressure on them was way too much. They didn't 763 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 6: want to be left out of the club. Of course, 764 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 6: many of the same politicians who now publicly embrace Trump 765 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 6: privately dreaded. They know what a disaster he's been and 766 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 6: will continue to be for our party. They're just too 767 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 6: afraid to say it out loud. Well, I'm not afraid 768 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 6: to say the hard truth out loud. I feel no 769 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 6: need to kiss the ring. I had no fear of 770 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 6: Trump's retribution. 771 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 7: That sounds to me like somebody who is laying the 772 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 7: groundwork to run as a third party candidate because you 773 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 7: can't win. Why else would you say all of this 774 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 7: I would just just put it out there as a possibility. 775 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 7: What is her game plan? If it's not to run 776 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 7: as a third party, She's definitely got to make money. 777 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 7: She's not independently wealthy. That's really where Vivek I think 778 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 7: hit her pretty solidly was in pointing out how avaricious, 779 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 7: how greedy she had been in her post political career, 780 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 7: how much money she made so quickly. I think it 781 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 7: kind of made some people cringe. 782 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 3: If you're a governor and you're on the board of 783 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: you're not a former general on the board of Boeing. Right, 784 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 3: if if you're which that brings its own problems, don't 785 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 3: get me wrong. Yeah, at least there's some connectivity. You know, 786 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: I know Boeing does more than just make military stuff. 787 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: But you can understand why somebody who had been you know, 788 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: chairman of Scentcom or whatever might end up on the 789 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 3: board at Boeing. And we can have conversations about the 790 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 3: down the downside of the military industrial complex and another 791 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 3: time on this show. But in terms of the governor, 792 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: you're effectively a lobbyist for Boeing at that point, right, 793 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 3: You're somebody who your rolodex and your political connections or 794 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 3: what's being offered up. And you know, I think that 795 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 3: some people, given her foreign policy, started to connect this 796 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: stuff together and feel like there are real issues there. 797 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you could always I think tell with some 798 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: politicians when you hit them on something and they get 799 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 3: truly angry instead of politician indignant. And I think what 800 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 3: we saw with her and Vivek on stage was there 801 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 3: were some some of those things we're hitting home in 802 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 3: a mean she called him scum I think on the stage, 803 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: didn't she Yes, he was looking and said your scum, 804 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 3: which is you know, that's not that's not cool. I 805 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 3: can't can't say that that's something that's acceptable. I don't 806 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 3: even think at least Trump is funny when he when 807 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: he says something nasty to someone, that's not funny. That's 808 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 3: just mean. 809 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 7: So yeah, and by the way, valid criticisms of her. 810 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 7: It's not like he just said. I mean, he said, hey, 811 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 7: your own daughter's on TikTok, it's gonna be kind of 812 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 7: hard to get people to get off TikTok. When she 813 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 7: criticized him for being on TikTok, that seems valid to me. 814 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 7: I mean, I've got kids. If all my kids are 815 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 7: on TikTok and I'm saying we've got to ban the 816 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 7: app and my kids are all on TikTok like campaigning 817 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 7: for me, that would be I think, a very valid 818 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 7: punch