1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Piece of the planet. I go by the name of Charlot, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: men to God and Uncle Sharlot Lenard, whatever you want 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: to call me. Santa Claus isn't real, but I am 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: and I gotta get for you. It's a brand new 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network. With the holidays here, 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club is gonna take a little break, but 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: we've got something for you. Okay. Check out this new 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: podcast from my loved ones, my leader activists, Tamica Mallory 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: and the good brother King my son the general host 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: the Street Politicians podcast, a show that takes an uninhibited 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: look at social and civil rights issues, pop culture, and politics. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out Street Politicians podcast on the 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Black Effect wherever you get your podcasts. That's what's going on. 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: And I'm Tamika Danalory. Welcome to Street Politicians, to the 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: place where the streets and politics there is so much happening. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: It's so good to always get back here every single week. 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: When to thank you all for following us and being 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: with us every week to hear about what's happening in 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: the streets, in politics, in our world, in society. I've 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: been saying over and over again that if Black people 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: don't tell our stories for us by us. Other people 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: will determine the narratives that our children here, and we 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: can't allow that to happen. You know, as a black woman, 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: I tell you this election cycle, as we have been 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: talking about every week, really it's like a decompressing people 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: actually need, That's what I'm saying. Well, you know, some 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: days I feel good. In other days I don't because 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but I just want you to know 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: that we acknowledge the work that you black queens have 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: been put in yeah, and you know, and you all 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: we want to just celebrate you. You know, I noticed 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: because I know that black women don't under attack, you 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I want to be the 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: one to say as I sit next to black queens 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: that I know fights for our people wholeheardly every day. 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I just want you to know that I see you 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: and I'm here for you. Do you do mice you? 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: You really do pour into the Black women around you. 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: When I think about the work that we did, everything 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: from Brianna Taylor her family, to all of our comrades 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: that have been with us on the road, the Leslie 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: Redman's of NAACP Wisconsin to Tiffany Lofting, nab ACP Youth 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: in College Director. I mean, I don't even want to 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: get myself in trouble. Lnita Baker, the amazing attorney for 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's family, and the list goes on and on 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: of black women who are around us that you support 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: and you do a lot of great things. But I'm 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: just gonna tell you that, not just black women, but 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I think black people in general need a detox and 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: some therapy, like some real counseling after this election, because 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: not only do we go through the stress and strain 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: of that if the administration at the time continues to 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: be in office, we already know what that means, but 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that a new administration was going to 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: change anything either. So it's like the stress of what 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: do we choose? Which way do we go? So we 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: had to deal with all of that, and then we 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: had to deal with knowing that whatever happens is on 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: our backs as black women. Of course black men second place, 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: we have to continue to say that, but you know, 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: with eighty percent of black men also well more than 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: that showing up at the polls, and so it's just 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot, and I feel like I've been called out 64 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: my name, I've been accused, I've been threatened and all 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: of that, and it feels really heavy to be a 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: black woman who is carrying the load was so much, 67 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, for our community. And the thing that I 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: think I struggle with, which is my thought of the 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: day today, is whether or not we should be going 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: to social media or any other form that is public 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: right around people, where people can see and hear it, 72 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: to talk to black men about how we feel. It's 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: almost like perhaps we should be keeping our pain just 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: in our homes or keeping it quiet. So I guess 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: a simple way of asking the question and the thought 76 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: of the day, it should we be airing out our 77 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: dirty laundry in terms of the relationship between black men 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: and black women. If you don't discuss it, it continues. 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: But if we do discuss it, it gives other people 80 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: an opportunity to use our vulnerabilities and our weaknesses against us. 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: And we know that that happened in this election cycle. 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: We know that marketing campaigns are created based upon people 83 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: watching the division in our communities and they use it 84 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: and they and they they what's the word? They expand 85 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: upon it or they that's not the word I'm looking for. 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: They exploit it, They exploit it for their interests. So 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: it's like, do we talk about it or do we 88 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: keep it to ourselves? Well, I think I think it's 89 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a very slippery slope. You know, 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: I think as a black man, for me, when I'm 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: talking about my own issues, you know, I want I 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: want to be held accountable. You know, I'm not calling 93 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: out black women and say your black woman, you're not 94 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: doing this, and that I think that's dangerous. I think 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: that showed a division between black women and black man. 96 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: I think if like you've always said, y'all need to 97 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: go with and deal with, y'all don't tell black women 98 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: who we need to do, or white people don't tell 99 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: us who we need to do. You need to go 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: talk to your cousins and uncles. And I think I 101 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: started it started to resonate with me, like the thing, 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: the toxicity that we're dealing with in our communities. It 103 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: is black men things that we're dealing with and that 104 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: we're not addressing, that we continue to play out and 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: that's not changing within our communities, within the way we 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: deal with our women and the way we did with 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: each other. It's something that we gotta be held accountable 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta utilize all forums that have 109 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: this conversation. It's easy to do it behind doors, but 110 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: when you publicly take responsibility for something that's going wrong 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: and saying you're as black men, you know, I don't 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: think we're doing all we can, and the brothers get mad, like, 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: don't say that you give an enemy. No, I'm older myself. 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you, I'm saying we. I'm telling you 115 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: that even though I feel that I'm doing good, but 116 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not the majority. I don't represent 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: the majority. Was going on. I'm hearing black women talk 118 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: about how they feel around most black men. They're not 119 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: They don't feel safety, they don't feel like they always protected. 120 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: That's a problem for me, you know what I'm saying. 121 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Even if every black woman around me is like, now, 122 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: you make us feel safe, but it's other people. I'm 123 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: not gonna say, well, I'm good. Don't put that on me. No, 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: because I'm a reflection. I don't see people want to 125 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: win with the team, but they don't want to lose 126 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: with the team. You know, people want to say, well, 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: don't tell me I had thirty five. And again, you 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, even though we lost thirty five, 129 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: and when you win the championship and you only had 130 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: two points, you'd be like, I don't care. We won 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a championship, so they gotta be we when we went 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: in and we're losing. So that's what I say as 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: me For me, as black men, my duty is when 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: I see that we're lacking in something or I feel 135 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: like we can be doing better in something, to call 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: it out, to being held accountable, to say, hey, we 137 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: can be doing better, not saying that we all. We're 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: not all. There's no mono if we're not all doing anything, 139 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: but if we if we want to say black men, 140 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: this is black men are strong or black men are 141 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: strong and put ourselves in that category. Didn't say what 142 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: black men are doing something wrong too? Yeah, I think 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: that there is this this is challenge that we deal 144 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: with where a lot of black men and maybe black 145 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: women as well, when we talk about protecting black women, 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: we think about it from the perspective of I'm good 147 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: to my wife or my husband, or my brother or sister, 148 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: or people that are in my immediate circle, or people 149 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: may say you're not good to your white husband or 150 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, people again in your immediate circle. But I 151 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: don't think that that's what we mean when we say 152 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: protect black women. That's this episode of Street Politicians is 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: called Protect Black Women, and we're kind of unpacking what 154 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: that means. Yes, we should be good to all of us, 155 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: should be good to everyone, but we're human, and in 156 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: relationships and other situations families, you have challenges, you have debate, 157 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: you have circumstances. But what we're talking about is as 158 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: a community, as a whole, how do we really make 159 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: ensure that we are not inflicting more damage and harm 160 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: systemically on our people too? Yeah? Individually absolutely, But for 161 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: me it's like if I see young boys sitting by 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: watching while a girl is being beat up and either 163 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: by their friend or by someone else, and they're not 164 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: intervening enough to say, hey, you know this is not right, 165 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: because this is what I hear, This is what I hear, 166 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: especially when I'm watching these videos on social media and 167 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: you see a girl and she's being attacked by you know, 168 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: by a black man or by any man, Well, what 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: does she do to cause that? On herself. That's what 170 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean. That's like, it's a it's a it's a 171 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: twisted systemic mindset that if the black woman is being harmed, 172 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: she caused it somehow. That's very different from me saying, well, 173 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, my mother and I don't get along, you know, 174 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: like my son and I have our challenges at time. Yes, 175 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: those are relationship things that have to be solved, but 176 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about how we as a community really wrap 177 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: our arms around black women. And perhaps both things go 178 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: hand in hand. That you can't treat your community well 179 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: if you don't have good relationships with your own family members. 180 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: But it feels like we're in a place where people 181 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: people remove themselves from being a part of the weed 182 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: because their personal life is together. So and then it's 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: like when you're saying it, they're like, oh, I protect 184 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: black women. You know, I fight for mine. It's not 185 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: you fighting for yours, it's us fighting for one another. 186 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: And black women have continuously shown up for black men, 187 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: and I think I think for me. You know, this 188 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: whole Megda Stallion and Tory Lanes thing right really put 189 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: it in a different perspective. You know. I was always like, 190 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: we need to protect black women and we need to 191 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: stand up, you know. Yeah, but you and I had 192 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: a number because I was one of the people that 193 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: felt like, don't say me because it's not me. And 194 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: then I started to realize it's a collective. We all. 195 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: We can't say black people. This is black people that 196 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to separate ourselves when it's not conducive every time, 197 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: you know, So I started to acknowledge it. I give 198 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: you a little props for just a little bit, but 199 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: not too much, not too much corner. I got a 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: little crazy crazy, like she really did. But the reality 201 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: is when I watch the situation, will make the stallion 202 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: and seeing how many people would just come out of 203 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: nowhere saying that be is lying, she's a liar, He 204 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: didn't do this to her. And it just was like why, 205 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: like why, why would you just assume that a woman 206 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: who got bullet fragments in her foot and done that 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: he didn't shoot. Why would you think that she would 208 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: just create a whole story? What what about your reality 209 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: or your upbringing or your understanding of a black woman. 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: What has she done prior to this to make you 211 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: just instantly call her liar? Well, it's because so much 212 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: of how we are viewed as black women is based 213 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: upon and I think it's on both sides. The few 214 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: who are liars who lie on black man who you know, 215 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: say that he beat me when he didn't. You know, 216 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: she's a she's a tramp, she's a this, you know whatever, 217 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: all of those things, the negativity. I think that there 218 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: are some that have had those interactions and and even 219 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: have had mothers that were not really good to them, 220 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: or mothers that they just hate for whatever reason, and 221 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: therefore they translate that onto the whole. But what we 222 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: know is that nine times out of ten, no I 223 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: don't even know of a man, period, but I'm just 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: gonna say nine times out of ten, Black women or 225 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: women in general, are not gonna just say somebody shot them, 226 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: that did shoot. You might say he hit me and 227 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: he didn't, or he choked me, or he you know whatever, 228 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: those things. We can go back and forth. But he 229 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: shot me and he didn't shoot me, like it doesn't 230 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: even you shot and you shot well no, no, no, 231 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: they said she wasn't really even shot. Got a doctor, 232 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: She paid the doctor. You don't know, why why would 233 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: she paid the doctor? Why would she pay the doctor? 234 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Put the bullet frames in her foot, all that stuff, 235 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: so she can lie on that and then people Then 236 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: there was a guy who had no face, know nothing, 237 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and he said he was the security and he was there. 238 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: He told a whole story about it, and people actually 239 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: believe what he said. They don't know who it was. 240 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: They made up a whole story, said her best friend 241 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: says she was there. That never happened. It's just it's 242 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: just so much stuff. Man, I don't think it really. 243 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: It disheartened me. It just it really shows us. It 244 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: is disheart to name it is. It was disheartening. It 245 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: is disheartening for me. So it's really, you know, protecting 246 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: black women is the order of the day, and we 247 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: have to keep talking about it. And I know people 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: probably tired it, but they feel like we always but 249 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: if we continue to exactly if we don't, if nothing changes, 250 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: nothing changes, and talk about it. But somehow or another, 251 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: we still got to figure out when it's the right moment. 252 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, that's a fact. And speaking of Mega Stallion, 253 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: first of all, she had me in that incredible, incredible 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: performance on Saturday Night Live, which I didn't even know 255 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: when someone text me and told me about it. Attorney 256 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: Linita Baker. I was like, oh, that's big, as if 257 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: it was about someone else, because I just couldn't even 258 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: wrap my head around you know how powerful that moment 259 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: was for her to include my voice in her performance 260 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: and shout out to Kevin Laws who is our board 261 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: member until freedom and making that happen, and you know, 262 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: mag like anytime right like coming up, listen. You know, 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't I believe that. You know, you have a 264 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: lot going on. We just want you to know that 265 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: anything you need from us, you know, you can utilize 266 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: our platform if you need us individually as unique whatever man, 267 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: we want to protect black women. I believe you. I 268 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: don't believe you made up no story about somebody shooting you. 269 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I know, I see the 270 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: trolls and I just wondered to myself, what is this 271 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: woman dealing with? How does she feel after she was 272 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: shot and she has to explain and have to defend 273 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: herself about somebody hurting hers. So, you know, I just 274 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: want you to know that we are with you and 275 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: you politicians, and you know I've had dinner with meg Um. 276 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, unless she's completely like a psychopath who was 277 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: able to change personalities right before your eyes. I personally 278 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: do not believe that the young woman that I sat 279 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: and talked to and spent time with just made up 280 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: a story about who shot. That's just me. But that's 281 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: not what we're here for to deliberate a legal matter. 282 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: It ain't even legal. It's ethical for me. Like the 283 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: legal part is whether he go to jail or whether 284 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: they say he did it. The ethic part is me 285 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: knowing that a man harmed a woman and trying to 286 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: lie in act like he did. That's just ethics for me, 287 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: and every other man should hold that man accountable. Like, 288 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: don't let no nigga around you sit around doing no 289 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: sucker shit and you ain't checking. Okay, well, don't letting 290 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: no black man, no brother, green anything sit around you. 291 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: You're still say no colored people, no colored people sit 292 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: around you and doing supper ship to women and getting 293 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: away with it. Man, if you condone suching ship that 294 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: you are suffer to, yeah, for real. That brings us 295 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: to one of my brothers brother that I think is 296 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: a dope comedian slash actor. You know, he put out 297 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: this dope video about black women. He didn't talking about 298 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: how he loves black women. And it touched our souls. 299 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: So we was like, we gotta bring him up here, 300 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: especially when we're talking about this topic. And that is 301 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: none other than my brother Afion Crockett. So he's going 302 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: to be with us in a minute to join us 303 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and expound on this topic about protecting black women and 304 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: loving black women and what it means to him. Yeah, 305 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: And in our activist segments today, speaking of protecting black women, 306 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be hearing from a young lady who we 307 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: affectionately called kJ. You all saw her in the viral 308 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: video where she is standing before the Board of Police 309 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Commissioners in Kansas City. Uh, and she's really speaking truth 310 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to power in the raw it's way. She said she 311 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: ain't nice, which we get into ain't nice. She says 312 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: that she's she ain't nice, which we will get into 313 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: and talk to her about because that was that's a 314 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: ball though. She's like, I didn't come here to be 315 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: politically direct. That's not what I came to do, and 316 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: that's just what it has to be at this time. 317 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: A young black woman, Caasia Brooks, who was an activist 318 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, So we're gonna be talking to her 319 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: as well. So before we go to the next segment 320 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: and have our special guests joint. We're gonna take a 321 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: quick break for our sponsors. But before you ask this question, 322 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: don't let my presence affect you, all right, What question is, 323 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: what'd you date a black girl? I like black girls 324 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: to an extent. The next time, let's say that the 325 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: skin tone. Yeah, okay, we're kind of black guys, either 326 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: my complexion or lighter. I'm doca. So you want to 327 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: talk to me? No, wow? I remember when you thought 328 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I was crazy when I used to tell you that, 329 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, darker skinned girls, even at my complexion, are 330 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: just not as desirable, if you will, to some men. 331 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: And and and what's painful is that sometimes it's black men. 332 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: A lot of times it's black men who sort of 333 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: look at us and say that the darker we are, 334 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: as you saw in the video, We're mean we are, 335 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, just not as cute and attractive to our 336 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: own men. So it's really the sentiment is really painful 337 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: to hear. And I think that the young woman in 338 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: this video knew the answers already. That's why she went 339 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: out to do this experiment, because she could probably feel herself. Yeah, 340 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean I get it, and I've learned a lot lately. 341 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: I think growing up for me, I don't think I 342 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: think there was a stigma like, oh you wanted to 343 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: get the poor Rikan girl or light skin girl used 344 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: to say it, But I don't think people was like 345 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: they just didn't like dark skin girls. Like now I'm 346 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: hearing that I'm just not attracted to dark skin girls. 347 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: You hadn't actually dark skinned dudes this Midnight Black talking 348 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: about they don't want no dark skinned girls. So it's like, 349 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's a it's a product of slavery, 350 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's trauma. It's a thing that 351 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: we've been taught that darker we are, that the less 352 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: we are that, you know. So I think, yeah, we're 353 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: actually feeding into it. You don't remember it, but and 354 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe our next guests can talk about 355 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: it a little a little bit. But even in school days, right, 356 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: there was clearly in that movie that we love, right, 357 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: everybody's on school days. But if you think about the 358 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: colorism issues in that movie and the split between the 359 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: lighter skinned girls who would look at as being cool, 360 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: and that was t Sha Campbell and Jasmine Guy and 361 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: then you had the darker skinned girls who were so 362 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: who they called You're just a jiggaboo and no, the jiggaboos, 363 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: I think the lighting girls. You know, the jiggaboos was 364 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: the dark skin and the one of these was the 365 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: light skin. Oh oh, okay, right, you just don't want 366 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: to be you want to be white, okay, exactly. So 367 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: see you remember that. Remember that was Spike Lee's whole thing. 368 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: I grew up around in a multi culture in front 369 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: of Bronx. It was so multi cultural, and a lot 370 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: of my family members with dark skin, you know, or 371 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: a light skin or brown skin. The first girl that 372 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: I ever was attracted to in elementary school was really 373 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: dark skinned. So you know, for me, I don't I 374 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: don't think I really paid that much attention. A lot 375 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: of my dudes actually liked the same girl that I 376 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: was attracted too. She was like the prettiest dark skin 377 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: chick that you ever see in the same So I 378 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: understand now, I see that it's happening now, So we're 379 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna bring my brother, you know, comedian actor extraordinaire, you know, 380 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: one of the funniest guys that I know. You know, 381 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: every time I see him play a role or do 382 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: some type of characters like this hilarious man. He put 383 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: out this video just talking about how much he loves 384 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: black women. So we're gonna bring if on Crockett on 385 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: here to have this conversation with us. What's up, King, 386 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Fuck? King and Queen? How 387 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: y'all going on? Thanks for joining. Look, I'm honored when 388 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: when your names came across my email and my publicists, 389 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, feel feel different requests or whatever. I was like, immediately, 390 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: those my people right there, let's go. I can't imagine 391 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: what this country would be like without black women. I 392 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: mean they've been on the front line. They set the stage, 393 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: they cried to tears, they fought the fights of everything 394 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: that was right. You're our mothers, our sisters, our wives 395 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: and daughters. Black woman. I loved Black Room. I loved 396 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: so much. So what made you do the video? I 397 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: mean we needed it. Let me just tell you it 398 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: was really appreciated. I know I needed to hear, um, 399 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: black men's actually the little black boy who I saw 400 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: in the video. I needed to hear that you all 401 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: love black women and we know it. Of course we 402 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: know black men love us, but if you let the 403 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: media tell it. There's such a stigma and there's so 404 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: much division between us, and so it's great that you 405 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: use media to dispel the myth. Yeah. I mean, look, 406 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: that's a long conversation, but I mean, let's start it 407 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: for me. I just it's just so blatant how we 408 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: are depicted in the news, the media and movies and TV. 409 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: And you know, it's always slaved this and oppressed version 410 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: of that. And I'm as an artist, I'm tired of it. Right, 411 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: but in our society. Right, there was a video by 412 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: my Black is Beautiful years ago of all these beautiful 413 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: black women saying I love you black man, and it 414 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: was amazing. I was watching that Journe I felt love. 415 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's that's amazing to hear. And 416 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I was like, oh, 417 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: they gotta have a male version of this too, right, 418 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: And about a year when by and I never saw 419 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: the video, So I was like, yo, I just felt compelled. 420 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: I have a lot of black friends. They got sisters, 421 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I know how these sisters feel that 422 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: black men overlooked them. So I was like, let me 423 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: get all the black men together that I know. So 424 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: that we can actually voice it. Because it's one thing 425 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: to think it and to be in your own bubble 426 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: and to just know what you know, but to verbalize 427 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: something as powerful as saying I love you black woman, 428 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: you just never know how far that can go. Yeah, 429 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Man. I was having an argument, but 430 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: a guy like you said that there are stigmas, and 431 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: there is a lot of people who don't even understand 432 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the reality we're dealing with. You know, there's a lot 433 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: of black men who are blind to the fact that 434 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: what they believe is loving a black women, or the 435 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: way that they loving a black woman is not sometimes 436 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: not the way that they want to be loved, you know, 437 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: And we gotta so having those conversations too. So while 438 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: seeing you put out this video just empowered me. It 439 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: made me feel like, you know, they're all other brothers 440 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: who understand the need to make our sisters and you know, 441 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: our mothers and our women, just black women in general 442 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: just feel loved. Man. So I think it was really timely. 443 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: I remember one day my song was arguing with the 444 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: guy they were debating, and the guy started to say 445 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: what And the whole point was Mice was saying, we 446 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: need to protect black women. We've got to do better. 447 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: And you know, there were so many men who came 448 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: at him like, you know, we do protect our women. 449 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: But the conversation with this one particular person boiled down 450 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: to him believing that if he beats his woman, right, 451 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: but then he fights someone else who made disrespect her, 452 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: he is protecting her. And it was so difficult to 453 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: get him to understand. And of course for us, it's 454 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: like he just must be some idiot. We don't got 455 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: to deal with it. But again, his page was full 456 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: of men who actually supported that stuff. You know, it 457 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 1: was like it was it was almost like trendy at 458 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, we got a lot of work to do. Yeah, 459 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: as as a community, like it's really it's really a 460 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: lost mindset to love black women and for black people 461 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: to love ourselves. And again, I can point to all 462 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: the reasons why we are conditioned to not love ourselves 463 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: and how I mean even down to the George Floyd 464 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: tape and every other tape that we've seen black people 465 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: getting murdered. Right, that is a clear message, that is 466 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: a clear statement that they want to send to us. 467 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: This is how we view you, this is how you 468 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: should view yourself and so you shouldn't care when y'all 469 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: killing each other, and when you know a young black 470 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: dude that is hitting a young black woman in a 471 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: face with a skateboard, like you shouldn't care, and that 472 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: that's the stuff that bothers me is knowing how long 473 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: of a conversation that is to try to get the 474 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: hope is to get our men, first of all, to 475 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: understand that concept. We had to love and protect all 476 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: black women in a real way, not in just you know, 477 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: four weeks and hashtag about it. Right. And when you 478 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: when you said George Floyd, what it brought up for 479 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: me immediately is hearing him call for his black mother, right, 480 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: Like everybody knows that the black woman gives life, not 481 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: that all women don't, but we're talking about black people 482 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: right now. So the black woman gives life, and that 483 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: we carry everybody struggles on our back. We carry everybody struggles. Right. 484 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: We're just thinking about this election. We were talking about 485 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: that earlier, that ninety plus percent of black women continue 486 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: to show up and save the country and also be 487 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: major supporters of the Democratic Party. Whether we are being 488 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: treated fairly and given the resources and attention that we 489 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: deserve or not, but we keep doing it over and 490 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: over again. And you were saying, well, black men also, Yeah, 491 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You know, we want to we 492 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: want to give credit. You know, black women definitely saved 493 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: the day everything, but we came in second place this time. 494 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We definitely came in second place. 495 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, how do how do we 496 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: find this balance I felt and where we hold ourselves 497 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: accountable right for what we understand is wrong because I 498 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: put myself in it, even though I feel like I'm 499 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: one of the biggest protectors and lovers of black women ever, 500 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: I say we need to do better, and then there's 501 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: this pushback from black men that I'm feeding into a 502 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: narrative that we're not already doing it. And then I'm 503 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: trying to explain to them that I'm having conversations with 504 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: black women who don't feel loved, who don't feel like 505 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: we're protecting them. So how do how do we How 506 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: do you think it is that we balance between not 507 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: feeding into a narrative but still holding ourselves accountable. Man, 508 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: It's about ownership, you know what I mean. It's not 509 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: enough for me and mice to love our black women 510 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and protect and have this mindset. We have to say 511 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: we we as black men, as the whole, we're all 512 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: responsible because we haven't been perfect, you know what I mean, 513 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: Like I've never beat on a woman, but that doesn't 514 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: mean that I haven't gotten into an argument and caught 515 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: crazy or you know, gotten mad and whatever. That thing is, right, 516 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: So we have to first own that we all got 517 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: to do it, and we got to start having real conversations, 518 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: if it's forums, if it's if it's meetings of post COVID. 519 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: Black men got to stop being sold in the ah man, 520 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: don't tell me what to do. We already doing that, 521 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: like nah, but you might be doing it, but we 522 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: collectively are not doing it. So we gotta take our 523 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: ego aside and be like no, no, no, yeah, I 524 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: take care of my lady. But you know, the community 525 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: of black men have failed the black woman. Well we 526 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: have to. And and by the way, they are young 527 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: black boys who are coming up behind you. Or I 528 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: have a young son who's twenty one years old, and 529 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: sometimes the challenges that we go through, you can see 530 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: that he has gotten too comfortable. You know, learn from 531 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: society that it's okay to like go off when you 532 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: want to on your black mother. And he and I 533 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: have had many conversations about respecting your mother. But he 534 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: is not alone. This is a sort of a trend 535 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: among many of my black women friends where they're talking 536 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: about the relationships with their son. And of course, my 537 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: son loves me to death or to life, but it 538 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: is something that needs to be dealt with now. The 539 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: next time we talk, we got to deal with how 540 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris being on the presidential ticket impacted the amount 541 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: of black men who voted for Trump and against the 542 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. That's another conversation, but we may not have 543 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: time to talk about that today. Yeah. I mean, look, 544 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Joe was a wild boy, but he's smart enough to 545 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: know when to pick the right running mate, and Kamala 546 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: was perfect, and that positions her to potentially be the 547 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: first president. We already had our first black president, of course, 548 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: and Barack and it also helped that Barrock was on 549 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: the running trail with them, on the promotional trail, the 550 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: campaign trail. But yeah, Kamala is gonna be She was 551 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: the perfect person to increase that support of black voters 552 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: and black women. Again, we love you black women, you 553 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: got we ain't got no choice with the love black women. 554 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I just want to know, you know, when we talk 555 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: about this subject and I get so much back and forth, 556 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: like I've done probably I did um Nick Cannon show 557 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: when we was talking about black women and how we 558 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: need to protect black women, and I was just owning 559 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: up for things that I might have done wrong. And 560 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: it was so many people just beating me up, like 561 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: black man a y'all nobody want to hear this, and 562 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: black women done this and black women ain't perfect. You know. 563 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: We talked about Meg the Stallion and Tory and he 564 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: like she gotta be lying and Tory didn't do nothing 565 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: a hug that beast TC And it's like, are we 566 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: dealing with a trauma? Is there is? Where do you 567 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: think this anger is coming from? That that you see 568 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: this especially shows up in this generation, Like where do 569 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: you think this anger is coming from? From black man? 570 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, victim shaming comes from, first of all, lack 571 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: of ownership. And you're right, as trauma, you know, no 572 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: man who's hurt, who's been hurt, wants to admit that 573 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: there's you know, there's some healing to be done. So 574 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: that's Another thing is black man, we don't know that 575 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: we need to heal, nor do we have the confidence 576 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: and the security to go heal and go sit with 577 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: a therapist and really correct your traumas and heal your traumas, 578 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: because there's always gonna be that conversation. There's always gonna 579 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: be that backlash every time one of us says we 580 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: love black women. All they're gonna be able to do 581 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: is point the finger and be like, yeah, but all 582 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: the black women I knew did this to me, and 583 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: and they they aggressive, and they this, and they that. 584 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, But that all comes from 585 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: a pain place. So of all you remember and all 586 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: you know is the times that a black woman did 587 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: something to hurt you, as opposed to being a man 588 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: and manning up and healing yourself and seeking that that forgiveness. Also, 589 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: all you're gonna do is keep pointing fingers, and when 590 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: your finger point it's gonna make you not look at 591 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: all the crazy stuff you did to the black woman. 592 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: So I think that's where that feedback come from. It's 593 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: trauma and it's lack of ownership. Ownership is a is 594 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: a very important concept that a lot of us don't practice. 595 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. Well, you know, we can 596 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: have this conversation old day. We probably need to do 597 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: like a roundtable with just black men and black women 598 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: and just talk talk through these subjects and just get 599 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: everybody's perspective and understands. But once again, man, thank you 600 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: for being here. Thank you for you know, grace and 601 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: our presidents and street politicians with your knowledge. When we 602 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: see that video, we like, we definitely got to bring 603 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: a fian on here, man, And I want to thank 604 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: you personally for always supporting me, you know, for always 605 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: being there, always give a showing me love on my 606 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: page and everything. So continue to do the work, brother man. 607 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: It's only a few of us out here that really, 608 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, that aren't afraid to take accountability, aren't afraid 609 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: to speak truth to power and you know, and deal 610 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: with whatever comes with that. So once again we want 611 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: to say thank you for being here. Thanks so much 612 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: for joining us on street politicians. You know, this is 613 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: an endeavor for us that we really want to see 614 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: grow and provide voice for what's happening in the streets 615 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: and in politics within our communities. So it was so 616 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: great to have you as one of our first guests. Well, 617 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: let me say this to both of y'all. I appreciate 618 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: y'all being front lines. Hands down, y'all are both front lines. 619 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Y'all are putting yourselves not you know, you're not pulling 620 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: other people and putting them in the front. You too, 621 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: are putting yourselves on the front line. You're getting arrested 622 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: and saluting my brother trade the truth, that's my brother. 623 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all putting yourselves on the front line for 624 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: the cause, for the people, and God bless y'all. May 625 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: y'all stay protected because I know y'all are going back 626 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: out there whenever something else happens, um, because we all 627 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: have a position to fight in this in this battle. 628 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: But you guys are have determined that you guys are 629 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna be frontline and put your hands to the plow. 630 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: So I salute y'all. We need y'all and my song 631 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: you wanted the greatest mcs man. I just want to 632 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: shout your your bar came up your pocket, your rhythm. Subscribe, 633 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: he's a scribe, he's ascribed. You know, she looked the 634 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: black woman. Look, this is what they're talking about. Y'all 635 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: can't give a black man she knows. She knows what 636 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: I do, but I appreciate you. If you're on for 637 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: the Love Man, thank you continue to do the work. 638 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate your love and we look forward to seeing you. 639 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: So before we go to the next segment and have 640 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: our special guests joint, we're gonna take a quick break 641 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: for our sponsors, so a street politicians, activists have a 642 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: home with us. We want to make sure that on 643 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: every episode we catch up with activists and organizers around 644 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: the country who are doing great work on the ground 645 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: and make sure that we give them an opportunity to 646 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: tell their stories and to ensure that the narratives around 647 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: what is happening comes directly from people who are engaged 648 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: and who are actively working to make change. And so 649 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: this young sister who we affectionately call kJ you all 650 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: know her as key Asia Brooks. We saw her at 651 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: a police council meeting or a police commissioner meeting where 652 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: the board members who actually control the Kansas City Police 653 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: Department where they were meeting and the public was able 654 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: to make statements. And she went before this council of 655 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: individuals and really spoke truth to power. But he was 656 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: on a point she was she said, I'm not nice, right, 657 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: She started out like that, I'm not nice, and I 658 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: don't seek to be respectable. So I'm not here begging 659 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: anything of soulless white folks and self preserving black folks. 660 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: You get one life, and you all in this room 661 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: have chosen profits over people and not pathetic. So let's 662 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: have kJ to come and let's talk to her and 663 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: learn a little bit about why she made that riveting speech. 664 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even call it a speech. She just basically 665 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: told it like it was like it is directly right, 666 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: directly to the to the people who needed to hear it. Well, Hi, kJ, 667 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: ting me on here, how are you? I'm nice today? 668 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: Y'all you're nice today? That's good. Who was your motivation 669 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: behind what you said? Um? I woke up that morning 670 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: just feeling really motivated, feeling really angry. I heard the 671 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: gospel song don't Forget to Remember, so that just kind 672 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: of got me excited. I'm like, they forgot to remember 673 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: where they paychecks came from. So I wrote that speech 674 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: as I was sitting in the crowd, partially directed at 675 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: a lot of the people who came who weren't really 676 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: speaking their truth. They were seeing what they thought would 677 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: sound the best. So I wrote that partially and direct 678 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: to the people who came with us, and partially indirect 679 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: to the police board who we barely get a chance 680 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: to see here in Kansas City. My main motivation was 681 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: just and I won't say anger, but you know, just 682 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: y'all gonna get had you been engaged in your local 683 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: community and fighting against police brutality prior to this day, 684 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: like I've been in every facet of activism. I've been 685 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: with the young protesters, I've been with the like kind 686 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: of middle aged concerned parent activists, and then I've been 687 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: with the older civil rights leaders. Tell us about what's 688 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: been happening to you since the day when you spoke 689 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: at the council meeting or the commissioners meeting. I left 690 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: the friends Halloween party and I was just sitting in 691 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: my apartment complex parking lot at like eleven o'clock at night, 692 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: like I normally do to like decompress, and I saw 693 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: their cards just coming through, and how my apartment complex 694 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: is that up You really wouldn't need to come back 695 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: there unless you were living there. They've been kind of 696 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 1: just trailing around, and my security sees them all the time, 697 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: but now that I draw national attention to them, they're 698 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: definitely angry, and I could see that manifesting itself in 699 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: various ways. You're not you're not alone. So we've experienced 700 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: the same type of intimidation. It's a playbook that they use. 701 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: But you also have to protect yourself. I'm glad to 702 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: hear you have security. You need to be safe, and 703 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I guess the question would be what can people do 704 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: to help. I do have a cash op for security. 705 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm paying security, which I'm paying taxes on at KCPD. 706 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: You with great power comes great responsibility. So I want 707 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: to be able to dive into this work without having 708 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: to worry about whether or not you know, someone on 709 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: the street could get me or someone in an organization. Right, 710 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: what is the organization and what is it that you 711 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: specialize in? What is you know? What is it that 712 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: you're you're expertiseing. Yeah, I have an organization that's co 713 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: founded by my comrade um Maria. Now it's called the 714 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: Chingana Collective. Chinona is a Spanish word for badass women, 715 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: so it could apply to anyone in any race. But 716 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: we're made up of black Latins and indigenous women. UM, 717 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: so we just work together. But you know, I'm black. 718 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: I want to work on black issues, but you know 719 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: I want to be there to support my sisters. Okay, 720 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: so what is your cash? You want to definitely make 721 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: sure that people are supporting you and make sure that 722 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: you are secure, and make sure that your grassroots organizations 723 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: even you drive and you continue to do your work. 724 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: Ka Gabriel, it's my first name and my little name. 725 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: It is on my Instagram at kgj k jg dot 726 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: b r ks UM. It's a link in there. There's 727 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: been a few fake pages popping up, but if you 728 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: just go to my instagram, like, yeah, well thanks for 729 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: being nice to us today. Yes, we appreciate you, even 730 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: though we love the stipiary but it's good to see 731 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: that smile. And we're glad that you have security and 732 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: people protected you. So whatever we can do, you know 733 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: you got us on your side. Yeah, you call us 734 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: anytime and be safe. Okay, take care of yourself so 735 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: much good, be good to you. Take care. kJ is funny, 736 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: like I mean, and I know she's not trying to 737 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: be funny, but she's funny and I like her. UM, 738 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: and I think we need to do all we can 739 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: to support her and make sure you know, yes, I 740 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: go to her cash app for support her. I went 741 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: to her I DM tell the other day and sold 742 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: her that I wanted to It was just a cold DM. 743 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know her, but I said, you know, I 744 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: want to give you some cash App. I want to 745 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: deposits in your cash app. You know how we all 746 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: ways try to pay forward whatever has been donated to us. 747 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: We always try to give others that we know are 748 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: out here that don't have the same access and platform 749 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: um some of the resources that we're able to pull together. 750 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: And so I sent her that message and she responded, 751 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: of course she gave me that cash act because that's 752 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: what I asked for, and you know, she's about her business. 753 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: But she also said she wanted to have more conversations 754 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: about the national work, and I think her voice is needed. 755 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 1: There's so many out here who are not speaking truth 756 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: to power. I don't know what the hell they are doing, 757 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: and I just want to continue to help and support 758 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: the young sister. And that brings me like this is 759 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: this really bothers? Why do people think that people who 760 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: do work on the front lines, who are activists supposed 761 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: to be poor, oh man, But well, what do you 762 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: think that we're supposed to run around here fight risk 763 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: our freedom and we're not supposed to have will pay 764 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: a nice shoes who are not supposed to be able 765 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: to pay our rent. Why do y'all want the people 766 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: that's willing to risk their lives on these front lines 767 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: to have nothing. People tell me you're you're selling a 768 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: book online, You're trying to capitalize on the movement. You're 769 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: a poverty pimp because you're selling a book, Well, I 770 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: think or you're selling a hat, so you're a poverty pimp. Well. 771 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: I believe that people should have as much as they 772 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: can get. Of course, I'm you know, I believe in 773 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Bernie saying this theory that people only need but so 774 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: much money. But I do think that whether you're an 775 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: activist or whatever, you are, a school teacher, you know, 776 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: a dancer, whatever you are, I think people should live 777 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: comfortably and that not only should we be able to 778 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: be supported by the community and people who we entertain, 779 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: people who we fight for, people who we work with. 780 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: That's one part of it. But I also think that 781 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: this country should ensure that people are not living in 782 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: poverty just because of this code or the color of 783 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: the skin. So I totally don't support that theory. I'm 784 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: aware of me a cute boot. I'm gonna have me 785 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: a nice bag, and I'm gonna make sure that I 786 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: have a home and that my family is stable. That's 787 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: something that I'm going to do, and I will work 788 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: for mine. It's not like I'm sitting at home expecting 789 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: people to give. But I also I also understand that 790 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: the media has created this narrative and it's been used 791 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: to to try to to try to, you know, pretty 792 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: much challenge the leadership of black people in this movement. 793 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's been used as an opportunity to deflect 794 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: from the real issues and to try to destroy the 795 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: character of an individual who is trying to do work 796 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: so that we don't have to talk about the issues 797 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: of social justice. And I think that what happens is 798 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: because the mere as Malcolm X says, it's a powerful 799 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: tool and it's dangerous, right. It is so ingrained in 800 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: your mind that you start to question the black leader 801 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: who's doing whatever work locally, and but then you are 802 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: willing to give your money to something like the Red Cross, 803 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: who really also takes people's money, and most of the 804 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 1: money that goes into the Red Cross is going towards 805 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: the salaries of those people who work for the company, 806 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: the leadership, or the organization, and not nearly as much 807 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 1: of the individual dollars are going to the ground to 808 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: deal with relief. I mean, we know in New Orleans 809 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: still to this day, the city, the town has not 810 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: been properly rebuilt. Yet the Red Cross received probably you know, 811 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: I know it was millions, but it could have been 812 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: even more than millions of dollars during Hurricane Katrina. But 813 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: yet somebody like Traded Truth, who is our family, He's 814 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: out there doing the work every single day on the ground, 815 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: doing real relief work, going into the hood, buying trucks 816 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: and other things, Hurricane Tornado, doing it all. And they'll 817 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: ask why we just I just think, you know, we 818 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: gotta do better. Man, Like, why are we questioning people 819 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: that's willing to risk the lives for us people? Why 820 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: why do you want to see people that you know 821 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: come for when you come from that doing work, real work. 822 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: Why do you have a problem with seeing them having 823 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: some level of success, being able to survive, being able 824 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: to have something nice, or just not being broken, not 825 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: living day to day like that mentality to me is 826 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: so warm, But it's an enslaved mentality. It's a war, 827 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: and it was it was done to us on purpose 828 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: because the entire theory um or at least one that 829 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: I think has been extremely beneficial to our oppressors, has 830 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: been to use chaos and also to divide us based 831 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: upon jealousy, based upon some having and others not having. 832 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: So it's like, what do you call a deprivation? Like 833 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: all of these things have been used against us, and 834 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: it worked because it's ingrained in our psyche that we 835 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: start to want to know why or what kind of 836 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: car do you drive, rather than having a conversation about 837 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: the issue that I'm bringing to your attention. But you know, 838 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: I think you have to and I've learned from some 839 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: of my mentors and leaders that you just have to 840 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: keep going and not really stop to focus too much 841 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: of your attention on that sometimes, like I was questioned 842 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago about how much money we make 843 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: and you know, do how is all of this happening? 844 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: And of course then they started asking me it was 845 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be about me, and the next thing I know, 846 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: it became well, how come my son doesn't tell us 847 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: where he's making Listen, the president of the United States 848 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't show his taxes. And when they finally found in 849 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: which they had to crack the code over four years, 850 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: and when they finally was able to find some information 851 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: seven So did you fight him? Yeah? Did you, Kim? 852 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: Was you on that five million more people were not 853 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: out of voted for him? Actually, five million more people 854 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: did go out and voting. The numbers went up in many, 855 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: many situations that you know tells us a lot about 856 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: this country a lot. Yeah. Well, listen, once again, we 857 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: don't always agree. We're not gonna always be wrong, We're 858 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: not always gonna be wrong, and we're not always be right, 859 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: but we can guarantee you that we will always be 860 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: authentic street politicians. P