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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, and welcome.

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Speaker 2: To the latest edition of Justin Who's No Noise. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, John Solomon, reporting to you from the nation's capital.

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Speaker 2: We've got a very special conversation to go, and my

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Speaker 2: staff is going to get my script exactly right.

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Speaker 1: In the second I'm going to tell you all about it.

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Speaker 2: We are going to dive into a single issue today

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Speaker 2: before we do a couple of quick headlines. Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 2: just finished a press conference. You've been watching that on

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Speaker 2: live TV. She testified for a while, said you didn't

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Speaker 2: know anything about Jeffrey I've seen Bill will tell you

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Speaker 2: about it tomorrow. That was basically the gist of her

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Speaker 2: story today, but it was a significant moment. We have

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Speaker 2: all the coverage over justin hws dot com and we'll

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Speaker 2: be doing that all day. But tonight we're going to

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Speaker 2: take a break from the breaking news headlines and do

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Speaker 2: a deep dive on a single subject.

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Speaker 1: You probably never thought about it.

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Speaker 2: It's a metal called tinplate, but you use it every

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Speaker 2: day in your kitchen and at your dinner table. Every

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Speaker 2: time you open a soup can or can of vegetables.

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Speaker 2: That can is most likely made of tinplate, and for

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Speaker 2: decades We made that medal right here in the United States,

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Speaker 2: and today we still make the cans right here in

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Speaker 2: the heartland of the USA, places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: But because of unfair foreign competition and regulation in America,

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Speaker 2: we don't make much of the tinplate anymore. That has

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Speaker 2: left our country at the mercy of foreign suppliers. Now,

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Speaker 2: last year, when President Trump came to office, he tried

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Speaker 2: to write the ship for America steel industry imposed fifty

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Speaker 2: percent tariffs on foreign steel, up from their prior twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent, and that has begun to reinvigorate the once

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Speaker 2: mighty steel machine that was here in the United States.

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Speaker 2: But there's still a short term hiccup. It takes a

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Speaker 2: few years to restart tinplate operations in America. That's something

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Speaker 2: you can turn on overnight, and that hasn't even got started.

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Speaker 2: So those factories making the cans are now paying a

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Speaker 2: whole lot more for their foreign supplies, hundreds of millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars in fact, and that has begun to put

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Speaker 2: pressure on American farmers who are being asked to absorb

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Speaker 2: some of those costs, and consumers. Now, last night I

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Speaker 2: heard from a mom in Florida, who said her grocery

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Speaker 2: bill for Ken Goods has been going up. She's not alone.

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Speaker 2: You heard that. Remember it's a pretty good interview last night.

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Speaker 2: A recent study from the all Poll Family Economic Center

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Speaker 2: at the University of Cincinnati found can tune in the

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Speaker 2: Midwest grocery stores is up about seven point three percent

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Speaker 2: just in September. Can green beans up nine point one

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Speaker 2: percent over the same period in can suit get a

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Speaker 2: look at this twenty two point three percent. That's way

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Speaker 2: above other food prices when you look at the CPI.

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Speaker 1: But not to worry.

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Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett recently told reporters the administration is

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Speaker 2: considering some targeted relief from steel tarrifs and instances where

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Speaker 2: US manufacturing capacity and metal supplies are lagging. And while

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Speaker 2: President Trump will be the ultimate decider on that issue,

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Speaker 2: there are signs of the administration might be considering some

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Speaker 2: short term relief on tinplate. We're going to hear in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes from one of Secretary's best in the

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Speaker 2: top aids if he gets off a plaane, we're trying

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Speaker 2: to get him off a plane in time tonight. We

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Speaker 2: also are going to talk to can makers, farmers, and

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Speaker 2: lawmakers on how America got into this pickle and a

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Speaker 2: unique solution that could help America thread a needle by

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Speaker 2: getting some short term relief on cam prices while building

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Speaker 2: a whole new template manufacturing manufacturing industry in America. That's

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Speaker 2: going to be the ultimate solution now that aims to

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Speaker 2: bring prices down short and long term while creating new

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Speaker 2: American jobs so that terroriffs can be raised back up

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Speaker 2: to fend off any unfair competition coming from overseas. That's

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Speaker 2: what we're going to focus on tonight. It is truly

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Speaker 2: a dinner table, kitchen table issue, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: dive right into right at the beginning the show. Mandi

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Speaker 2: top of the show tonight, we've got two industry representatives,

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Speaker 2: Scott Green, president of Can Manufacturer's Institute and Robert GATT's

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Speaker 2: vice president and general manager at Can Corporation of America.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, welcome, good to have you here. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: James, all right, I don't think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: know they've gone to the grocery store, like, hey, wait,

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Speaker 2: that canopy is a little bit more expensive that canna.

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Speaker 2: Sup a lot more expensive. They had no idea. What's

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Speaker 2: been going on behind the scenes. Start with you, Scott.

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Speaker 2: You have seen this play out. There's pressure on farmers,

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Speaker 2: pressures on consumers. It's gonna get worse, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks John for having us here. And you're

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Speaker 3: making a lot of metal cans in this country. That's

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Speaker 3: because metal cans have a significant impact on our economy,

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Speaker 3: on national security, and on our public health. We make

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five billion metal cans every year

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Speaker 3: in the United States with aby and every minute we're

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Speaker 3: making a quarter million.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: And those metal.

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Speaker 3: Cans, a significant portion of them are steel food cans,

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Speaker 3: and they're filled with food that people depend on, produce,

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Speaker 3: pet food, infant formula. And just like you said, more

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Speaker 3: and more people are going to the grocery store and

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Speaker 3: they're getting sticker shock as the cost of these canned.

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Speaker 4: Foods go up.

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Speaker 3: You heard it, like you said last night, from the

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Speaker 3: so that is because there's that fifty percent tariff fun steel,

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Speaker 3: and the key input to making steel food cans is

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Speaker 3: tinplate steel specialized form of steel. Only one percent of

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Speaker 3: steel goes into packaging. And because there's not nearly enough

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Speaker 3: made here can any fastiors like Robert are forced.

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Speaker 4: To import that.

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Speaker 3: There's that added cost and it has to be absorbed

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Speaker 3: elsewhere along the American steel can value.

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Speaker 2: Chain becomes pretty expensive quickly in that scenario when the

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Speaker 2: tariffs are on them. Robert, when did we started getting

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Speaker 2: out of the business of tin plate. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: That's not right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, first of all, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 5: You know, before I get to that question, let me

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Speaker 5: just tell you a little bit about Can Corporation of America.

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Speaker 5: So it's a it's a company that's vertically integrated.

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Speaker 1: We started in.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen twenty eight growing mushrooms and we started packaging mushrooms

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Speaker 5: in tin cans. In the nineteen sixties. We became vertically

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Speaker 5: plate sector is is Scott had men Is. We used

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Speaker 5: go outside of our borders, you know, allies like Canada,

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Speaker 5: European Union, in other countries as well too to secure

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Speaker 5: this very specialized metal tenplate.

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Speaker 2: What forced so many of the American lines out of business?

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Speaker 2: Was it just the dumping of metal from China places

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Speaker 5: I think there's a combination of different things. A lack

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Speaker 5: of investment within the United States within the ten mill

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'd like to mention is that American can

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Speaker 3: manufacturers they're buying all the domestic ten plate steel they can,

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Speaker 3: everything they got. There's just yes, there's just.

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Speaker 4: Not enough of made here.

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Speaker 3: And that's because steel companies they are taking advantage of

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Speaker 3: what this gift that the Trump Aministrator has given them

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Speaker 3: of the fifty percent tariff, so that they have more

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Speaker 3: opportunity to invest, but they're doing it in higher value products.

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Speaker 3: We have not seen the payoff in tin plate steel,

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Speaker 3: and so in the absence of that payoff. All that's

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Speaker 3: happening is that we're creating added costs that flow through

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Speaker 1: All three get hit.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's first take a look at the

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Speaker 2: can industry. It is a big employer, like twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand jobs, is that right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for twenty eight thousand Americans are making those

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five billion metal cans here that

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Speaker 3: I was talking about across thirty three states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge industry.

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Speaker 2: We know when we go to the shopping store, we

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Speaker 2: know there's a lot of cans.

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Speaker 1: Let's ask I want to ask you about this.

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Speaker 2: The thread the needle strategy for the administration is going

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Speaker 2: to be they don't want to give foreign makers a

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Speaker 2: break long term because otherwise the unfair practices will come.

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Speaker 2: What will be the impetus to get a true tin

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Speaker 1: What is that going to take?

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Speaker 3: So I think what we do know is that this

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Speaker 3: fifty percent tariff is not stimulating investment in domestic tinplate.

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Speaker 4: Haven't seen it?

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Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, when President Frump first put it in there,

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Speaker 3: haven't seen it since the fifty percent. So what we're

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Speaker 3: saying is, let's rethink this approach. Let's modify it so

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Speaker 3: also make sure that our American farmers, our American can

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Speaker 3: manufacturers are winning. And then let's make sure that those

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Speaker 3: shock and really deliver a win to the Trump administration

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Speaker 3: on affordability. And they can do it again, this is

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Speaker 3: a specialized product. Only one percent of steel goes into packaging,

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Speaker 3: so we can modify the approach with tinplate and then

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Speaker 3: keep the tariffs exactly where they are for the ninety

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Speaker 3: nine percent of steel that goes in under other products.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, Robert.

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Speaker 2: When you look at a can about that size, and

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Speaker 2: tomato paste can or vegetable can, how much has it

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Speaker 2: gone up because of the Tariff's just that one can

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Speaker 2: when you buy the time you're going to sell it

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Speaker 2: to the consumer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gone up tremendously.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at store shelf prices, it

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Speaker 5: may not seem much as far as when you talk

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Speaker 5: about sense. Once you boil that down into how much

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Speaker 5: that actual can costs for the for the for the

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Speaker 5: fillers in the processors, it's gone up significantly.

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Speaker 1: It's a real issue.

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Speaker 2: And as long as the terrorists are at this rate,

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Speaker 2: they're going to stay at that level. There's no way

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Speaker 2: that the big cost has to go somewhere, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So what happens to farmers. We're going to hear for

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Speaker 2: some farmers in a little bit, but they're going to

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Speaker 2: be asked to take some of the hit on this, right,

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Speaker 2: and then consumers take the other part of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because there's there's a whole other aspect of this

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Speaker 5: as well too. As prices have gone up related to

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Speaker 5: the processing, and all the way down to the consumer level.

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Speaker 5: As those prices have gone up, now we're starting to

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Speaker 5: see importation of finished filled canned goods coming from many

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Speaker 2: Cheaper for them to ship and here because they're going

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Speaker 2: to make it a lot cheaper, right, absolutely, Wow, And.

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Speaker 2: So let's break down the classic Washington gauntlant because there's

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Speaker 2: All right, what did you guys make And I'll start

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Speaker 2: Where Who are our best friends in template short term?

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Speaker 2: Always works itself out, It always has, at least historically.

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Speaker 2: Who is the toughest actor that we need to be

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Speaker 5: And make a conscious decision on exactly where you're buying

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Speaker 2: That's it, our farmers wanted to grow. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: If there's someone sitting there, he's got off the Sambi

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think well, they can always tell their representative

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Speaker 3: And buy those American made and filled cans. It helps

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Speaker 2: That's a great It's such a great conversation one that

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Speaker 2: It's something that is is maybe our cane when you

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Speaker 2: He represents the great state of Wisconsin, Senator Bron Johnson, Senator.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show that that's what

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Speaker 6: We are.

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Speaker 2: In the state of the Union. President Trump doubled down

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Speaker 2: Every so often a tariff runs into a harsh reality

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Speaker 7: bore some of those costs, some of the steel prices

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Speaker 7: for example, I mean China has just destroyed in many

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Speaker 7: cases by overcapacity of steel steel markets which have kept

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Speaker 7: prices unbelievably low, bankrupting a lot of steel ins just

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Speaker 7: around the world. So they've just again they're communist planning

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Speaker 7: has destroyed kind of free market pricing and free market

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Speaker 7: competition in the steel industry and other industries as well.

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Speaker 7: And that's that's what makes it so incredibly complex when

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Speaker 7: we started talking about trade and people who abuse trade

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Speaker 7: and don't have market economies that rely on on real

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Speaker 7: price signals as opposed to central planning.

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Speaker 6: So it's very difficult to predict.

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Speaker 7: But when it comes to affordability, from my standpoint, I

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Speaker 7: think that the most significant thing the administration is doing

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Speaker 7: is they're addressing energy costs. A lot of people maybe

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Speaker 7: don't realize it, but the cost of energy impacts just

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Speaker 7: about the price of every good you have to transport things.

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Speaker 6: And so President Trump's you know, his folks on.

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Speaker 7: Drill baby drill, you know, freeing up and making a

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Speaker 7: natural gas available. And you know, quite honestly, our new

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Speaker 7: partner in Venezuela with with you know, sourcing oils from Venezuela. Now,

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Speaker 7: I mean all these things will have a very positive

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Speaker 7: impact in terms of restraining prices, which we've already come

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Speaker 7: a long way. I mean, President announced that the last

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Speaker 7: couple months of this year, we're down to almost where

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Speaker 7: he left inflation at one point four We're down to

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Speaker 7: about one point seven percent. The problem the administration has

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Speaker 7: is that across the board, the Biden administration Democrats left

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Speaker 7: such enormous messes. You know, the strife around the world,

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Speaker 7: the wars raging, the open borders, you know, flooding millions

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Speaker 7: of people in here, six hundred and fifty thousand people

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Speaker 7: convicted of crimes at large, fifteen thousand murders, twenty thousand

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Speaker 7: people convicted of sexual assault, and then the hangover forty

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Speaker 7: year inflation. We valued our currency, the value held the

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Speaker 7: start of the pandemic is now worth eighty cents.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't get repaired.

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Speaker 7: What you have to do is restrain the further growth

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Speaker 7: in prices, and some of those commodity prices like gasoline.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I haven't seen in Wisconsin U price is

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Speaker 7: still well over two dollars a gallon, but I mean

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Speaker 7: some places under two dollars a gallon. I mean, that

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Speaker 7: is significant progress, and we'll feel that throughout the economy

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Speaker 7: because gasoline diesel prices, all that impacts the transportation of

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Speaker 7: goods and are the cost That's a great point.

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Speaker 8: And Senator I also wonder if there's an element of

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Speaker 8: this of it all coming out in the wash, because

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Speaker 8: as you talked about, especially under the Biden administration, when

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Speaker 8: gas prices were so high, that was increasing the cost

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Speaker 8: of things. And I understand there's a cost associated with

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Speaker 8: repatriating with onshore reshoring companies to the United States, and

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Speaker 8: so you might have a can of tomato soup that

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Speaker 8: costs maybe ten twelve cents more, but you're also creating

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Speaker 8: more jobs. So there's kind of you know, kind of

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Speaker 8: evens out, doesn't it.

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Speaker 7: Sure, And you go there's transportation costing. You're shipping something

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Speaker 7: from China on a boat. I mean, it's a cheap

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Speaker 7: way of shipping, but still costs money. The other two

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Speaker 7: big impacts in terms of affordability, First of all, deregulation

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Speaker 7: when businesses aren't having to spend a lot of money

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Speaker 7: just complying with duplicative regulation or overregulation.

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Speaker 6: That also trains the costs. And then the tax cuts.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry to hear constituents, one very hard working individual

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Speaker 7: that texts me all the time, just compare, just complete

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Speaker 7: his taxes. I mean, this guy's a hard worker, so

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Speaker 7: obviously he's working overtime. He gets tips driving uber he

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Speaker 7: last year he paid over fifteen hundred dollars taxes. This

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Speaker 7: year he's going to get a four hundred and forty

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Speaker 7: six dollars refund. That's a two thousand dollars swing. And

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Speaker 7: as more people start completing their tax reforms, because we

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Speaker 7: didn't change the withholding tables, and so when people complete

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Speaker 7: their taxes, they're going to find out they don't owe

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Speaker 7: as much or they maybe get a refund this year

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Speaker 7: that that will come as a surprise.

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Speaker 6: I think many many people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 2: I think people are beginning to wake up. I just

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Speaker 2: heard some guy that just got his taxic on AND's like,

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Speaker 2: I got like fifty percent more back this year, and

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Speaker 2: he was like really really impressed by it. I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about a figure that the President used in

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Speaker 2: a State of the Union address, seventy thousand new manufacturing jobs.

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Speaker 2: That's been a challenge to create new jobs in the

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Speaker 2: manufacturing sector. There feels like there's the beginning of a

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Speaker 2: manufacturing renaissance in America. In the Rust Belt in other

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Speaker 2: places around the country that are near supply chains. Tin

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Speaker 2: Cans is one of those places that probably will see

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Speaker 2: growth if we get this sort of balanced out. Right,

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Speaker 2: the steel industry feels like it's making a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a comeback, and then the downstreamers like the canners

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Speaker 2: and others. Is this an opportunity for more jobs when

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Speaker 2: we balance this all out.

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Speaker 6: Well, you realize, I come from a manufacturing background.

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Speaker 7: For the last twenty thirty years, we couldn't hire enough people,

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Speaker 7: partly because we tell all of our kids got to

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Speaker 7: get a frey degree, so they're not even interested in

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Speaker 7: manufacturing jobs. But there are great jobs in manufacturing. There

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Speaker 7: are great jobs and the trades that type of thing.

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Speaker 7: We just need more of our young people to realize that. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: if you want a degree, great, but technical college or

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Speaker 7: just going to workforce is a pretty good way of

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Speaker 7: going as well.

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Speaker 6: It's like an egg culture.

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Speaker 7: You know, one hundred years ago, probably more than half

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Speaker 7: of Americans were involved in farming.

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Speaker 6: Now it's single digits. That's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 7: We've become more productive. Same things happen in manufacturing. We've

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Speaker 7: become more and more productive. As a matter of fact

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Speaker 7: people are concerned about AI might be replaced a lot

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Speaker 7: of white college jobs. So again that's all part of

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Speaker 7: the way an economy becomes more efficient and evolves. Now

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Speaker 7: there's this location is no doubt about it. But we

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Speaker 7: continue to produce a year to year, we produce more goods.

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Speaker 7: We do it with less labor. That's called productivity. That

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Speaker 7: also restrains prices. So again it takes time to realign

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Speaker 7: our economy. But what we really need is to educate

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Speaker 7: our young people. Make sure they have all their options

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Speaker 7: coming out of high school, going to the workforce, technical colleges,

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Speaker 7: four year degrees. My big advice is do not get

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Speaker 7: heavily into student loan debt and make sure you get

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Speaker 7: whatever degree. It's a useful degree, you find employment, you

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Speaker 7: can make a good living off of it, rather than

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Speaker 7: a lot of these degrees that our universities are pushing

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Speaker 7: that employers have no value, so they get one hundred

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Speaker 7: two hundred three hundre thousand dollarsand student loan debt and

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Speaker 7: they never dig themselves out of it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, folks like you and President Trump have done a

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Speaker 8: great job at destigmatizing those trade jobs. Especially President Trump

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Speaker 8: with his construction background, Sara, I want to ask you

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Speaker 8: about I know you're not up for reelection, but as

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Speaker 8: you talk to other folks in Wisconsin, affordability the economy,

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Speaker 8: of course, is going to be number one on folks minds.

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Speaker 8: But President Trump did a great job last night laying

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Speaker 8: out and cataloging his administration's success is over the last

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Speaker 8: thirteen months. For your Republican colleagues on the Senate side,

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Speaker 8: who are fighting for their life, what's the most important

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Speaker 8: thing they need to be talking to voters about.

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Speaker 6: Well, affordability is that issue.

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Speaker 7: But again, understand the realignment that President Trump has completed

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Speaker 7: within the Republican Party.

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Speaker 6: We are now the party of the working men and

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Speaker 6: women of this country.

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Speaker 7: And I'm proud of that fact and the fact that

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Speaker 7: our tax cut, the working family tax cuts, it was

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Speaker 7: targeted at the people who get tips, who get over time,

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Speaker 7: as seniors, that struggle sometimes because of having to adequately

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Speaker 7: save for retirement. So President Trump is focusing like a

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Speaker 7: laser on the people that build this country, the people

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Speaker 7: that work for the benefit of all Americans. So he

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Speaker 7: is focused on that. Plus he's a visionary, he's optimistic.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I thought that was a great speech last night.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't looking forward to almost to our speech, trust me,

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Speaker 7: but that was a really fun time being in that chamber.

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Speaker 7: I did not get bored. I thought President Trump did

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Speaker 7: a great job of just laying bare the cravedness of

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Speaker 7: the Democrats, of their ideology, of the policies and stuff,

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Speaker 7: but celebrating America and American heroes.

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Speaker 6: It was a great evening.

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Speaker 7: But I want a president that is optimistic, that has

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Speaker 7: the vision for not only is this a great country,

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Speaker 7: recognizing it and loving this country, but recognizing we can

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Speaker 7: make it so much greater.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt, sir.

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Speaker 6: Before we let you go real quickly.

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Speaker 2: In the follow to the State of the Union, the

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Speaker 2: Democrats put their fresh face up former Congressman Spamburg and

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Speaker 2: now the governor of Virginia. She gave a whole speech

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Speaker 2: on affordability. But she's the lady that monster raised taxes

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Speaker 2: by historic commounts in Virginia. Are Democrats that disconnected that

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Speaker 2: they don't even know what their own people are doing?

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Speaker 6: Yes? Again, I like most Americans didn't watch it. I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonnatch it.

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Speaker 1: I bet you let democrats run.

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Speaker 6: They're wolves in Sheep's clothing.

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Speaker 7: They try and suck down moderate, but they're basically all

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Speaker 7: a bunch of radical leftists that want open borders, that

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Speaker 7: want more power, more control, more taxes, larger government.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't work.

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Speaker 7: I hope that more and more Americans are wising up

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Speaker 7: and just do not believe Democrats because they will not

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Speaker 7: tell you the truth about who they are and what

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Speaker 7: their policies are going to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the President laid down that gauntlt pretty clicky

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Speaker 2: that there were patriots and hatriots in the room last night.

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Speaker 2: You could tell who they were based on their conduct. Senator,

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Speaker 2: it's always a great honor to have your show. We

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Speaker 2: always love your insights and all the great work you're

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Speaker 2: doing in the Senate. Thanks for joining us every dam Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much, sir.

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Speaker 2: All Right, folks, more on this really important issue of

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Speaker 2: tinplate and tariffs and what the future of our economy olds.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more right after the break.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 8: We are going to stay on this issue of the

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Speaker 8: can crisis in this country because, as you've heard, it

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Speaker 8: affects everybody down from the suppliers and manufacturers of those

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Speaker 8: cans through the supply chain all the way to the farmers.

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Speaker 8: And there's a beautiful little portion of California just north

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Speaker 8: of Fresno, and it is the Central Valley of California,

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Speaker 8: and they produce everything from almonds and citrus and garlic

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Speaker 8: and yes, of course canned goods as well.

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Speaker 4: So we're going to bring in someone who represents.

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Speaker 8: The people from that area of California, in fact, California's

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Speaker 8: fifth congressional district. Tom mclintt, Congressman, thanks so much for being.

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Speaker 9: With us, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, sir.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think of farmers in California and heavens

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Speaker 8: se BETSI. They have enough problems that they are dealing

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Speaker 8: with with water rights and trying to get enough water

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Speaker 8: to irrigate their crops, being taxed out the Yahoo or

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Speaker 8: at the wall out the wazoo right well in Yahoo too.

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Speaker 8: This is not something that they need to be hurting

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Speaker 8: from as well. And yet we are seeing it across

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Speaker 8: the country. We spoke to some other farmers. We've got

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Speaker 8: them coming on tonight. It is really hitting farmers hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, Reagan was right. Government is not the

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Speaker 9: solution of our problems. Government is the problem. And that's

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Speaker 9: true of so much of what we're talking about. That

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Speaker 9: all adds up to affordability. When something is scarce, it

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Speaker 9: becomes expensive. When it's plentiful, it's cheap. What government has

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Speaker 9: done is turned abundance into scarcity in so many different fields.

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Speaker 9: One of them is is obviously water. We live in

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Speaker 9: one of the most water rich regions of the country,

665
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Speaker 9: and we stop building the facilities to store surplus water

666
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Speaker 9: in wet years, so we had plenty in dry years.

667
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Speaker 9: Now most of that water goes out the specific ocean,

668
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Speaker 9: and we're dealing with chronic water crises despite very high

669
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Speaker 9: volumes of precipitation this year, in the last several years

670
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Speaker 9: for that better. And you look at so many of

671
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Speaker 9: the other things you mentioned of tin cans, the regulatory

672
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Speaker 9: costs that government has placed on manufacturing in this country

673
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Speaker 9: is the source of these problems. Is not foreign competition.

674
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Speaker 9: We can compete very effectively against foreign competition. We can't

675
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Speaker 9: compete against our own self inflicted wounds by piling regulations

676
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Speaker 9: upon taxes upon more regulations that make things very scarce

677
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Speaker 9: and therefore very expensive for the manufacturers as well as

678
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Speaker 9: for their customers. You know, about twelve fifteen, almost twenty

679
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Speaker 9: years ago, now. I remember having a conversation with the

680
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Speaker 9: Chinese businessman Los Angeles. We're talking about the explosive growth

681
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Speaker 9: of the Chinese economy and how the American economy at

682
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Speaker 9: the time under Obama was stagnating. And his response was, well,

683
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Speaker 9: you Americans, you have an import export problem. And I said,

684
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Speaker 9: what do you mean by that? He says, well, for

685
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Speaker 9: the last twenty years, you've been importing socialism and exporting capitalism.

686
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Speaker 9: The nice thing about this administration is we're starting to

687
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Speaker 9: import capitalism again. We're reducing the tax and regulatory burdens

688
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Speaker 9: that are crushing American enterprise and American families. And I

689
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Speaker 9: think that the big beautiful bill that we enacted last

690
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Speaker 9: year is now working its way through the economy. We're

691
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Speaker 9: seeing it as real wages starting to rise again, and

692
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Speaker 9: we're seeing inflation abait. We're seeing the labor participation rates

693
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Speaker 9: starting to inch forward again. People are telling us that

694
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Speaker 9: hasn't reached their own lives yet, but I think as

695
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 9: a matter of just a few months before it does,

696
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Speaker 9: as they start filling out their tax forms, as they

697
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Speaker 9: start adjusting and therewithholding, I think the American people are

698
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Speaker 9: going to start breathing a big sigh of relief, and

699
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Speaker 9: we will have that golden era that President Trump promised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's starting to hit.

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Speaker 2: You can that the conversation at the dinner table is

702
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Speaker 2: now definitely turning to, Hey, I just got a better

703
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: tax return or I didn't have to pay tax on tips.

704
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Speaker 2: It's definitely coming. Morgat rates today for the first time

705
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Speaker 2: below six percent since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: That's a big win.

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Speaker 2: I want to turn back to something you said that

708
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Speaker 2: we regulated some of our industries out of competitiveness, and

709
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Speaker 2: we had some of the tin can manufacturers at the

710
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Speaker 2: top of the show. We used to have eighteen lines

711
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Speaker 2: of can can manager tin can manufacturers, our plate manufacturers

712
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Speaker 2: so that the tin can makers could make it, and

713
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Speaker 2: they've gone down to three just since twenty eighteen.

714
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Speaker 1: How do we rebuild an industry like that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, get off their backs, reduce the regulatory burdens that

716
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 9: have been crushing these businesses. I mean, you know, California

717
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Speaker 9: is a prime exam that. I mean, look at what

718
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Speaker 9: we've done to our petroleum industry. Twenty years thirty years ago,

719
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Speaker 9: we were the second largest producer petroleum in the country.

720
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Speaker 9: We had forty refineries, operating throughout the state. We're down

721
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Speaker 9: to seven now, with economists predicting an eight dollars a

722
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Speaker 9: gallon gasoline in California by the summer if this trend continues. Meanwhile,

723
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Speaker 9: price is nationally because of the Trump economic policies are

724
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Speaker 9: coming down. It's no coincidence that the ten most affordable

725
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Speaker 9: states in the country are all Republican strongholds, and the

726
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 9: ten least affordable states in the country are all run

727
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Speaker 9: by the Democrats, and California is the worst.

728
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Speaker 8: Of Speaking of California and heavy regulations, but also natural beauty,

729
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Speaker 8: you've been speaking out about Yosemite and the reservation issues

730
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Speaker 8: that they.

731
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Speaker 4: Have been having.

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Speaker 8: Listen, I know we're barely we're not even into spring yet,

733
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Speaker 8: but people are going to start planning their vacations in. Yosemite,

734
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Speaker 8: of course, is a major, major hot spot target for

735
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Speaker 8: a lot of Americans.

736
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Speaker 4: Talk to us about what happened at Yosemite and what

737
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Speaker 4: prompted it.

738
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Speaker 9: Well, the radical left for years has been trying to

739
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 9: reduce visitation at Yosemite Valley. These are elitists. They believe

740
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Speaker 9: that Yosemite Valley is the prettiest when they're the only

741
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 9: people there and so they've been imposing all sorts of restrictions,

742
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Speaker 9: and one of them was this reservation system, which was

743
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 9: devastating to the gateway communities that I represent that depend

744
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 9: upon tourism for so much of their business. The hassles

745
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 9: that people were encountering and trying to reserve slots to

746
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Speaker 9: get into the People's National Park of Yosemite was keeping

747
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 9: people away. We have a new superintendent there now who

748
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 9: believes that our public lands should be enjoyed by the public,

749
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Speaker 9: a fellow named Raymond Patten. I can't say enough good

750
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 9: things about him. He was instrumental in scrapping the reservation system.

751
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Speaker 9: So you want to come to Yosemite Valley, come uh.

752
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Speaker 9: And at the same time, he's been working over time

753
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Speaker 9: to reduce the congestion that was deliberately created with the

754
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Speaker 9: traffic circulation of patterns as well as the long waits

755
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 9: at the gates. Again, I think it deliberate, deliberate strategy

756
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Speaker 9: to try to keep people away. Well, Yosemite is again

757
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 9: open to the American people, and it was was It

758
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 9: was John Muir's vision. There's a wonderful passage from his

759
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Speaker 9: from his diaries where he's looking down on the valley,

760
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Speaker 9: and he says, the valley is filled with people, yet

761
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Speaker 9: they do not annoy me because they would. They might

762
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Speaker 9: come as tourists, but they leave as evangelists. That process

763
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Speaker 9: is now is being reopened by the by this administration

764
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Speaker 9: and by the new superintendent there. So come one, come all.

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Speaker 9: It is the most beautiful part of the planet and

766
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Speaker 9: everybody should see it at least once in the lifetimes.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go.

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Speaker 2: Secretary best and Treasury Secretary best And said last week

769
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Speaker 2: that he's looking at the possibility of easing maybe some

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Speaker 2: very narrow parts of the steel TIFFs protect the steel industry.

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Speaker 2: But where there's a couple issues like tin plate, where

772
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Speaker 2: we don't have any tin plate in the United States

773
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Speaker 2: that's to almost all be bart And and Boa from

774
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Speaker 2: a foreign source, that we might give some temporary relief

775
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Speaker 2: until we get our tin plate manufacturing back here. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that would have some support in Congress until

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Speaker 2: we get that industry up and roaring again.

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Speaker 9: Well, certainly have my support. Again. Tariffs come with a

779
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 9: state price. Tariffs creates scarcity from abundance. Tariff's raised the

780
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 9: price of whatever product they're being applied to. It's not

781
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Speaker 9: entirely paid by consumers, but it's largely paid by them.

782
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Speaker 9: And the fact of the matter is, every producer is

783
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Speaker 9: also a consumer. Every consumer is also a producer. No

784
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 9: producer has ever been benefited by scarcer resources, no consumer

785
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 9: has ever been benefited by higher prices. That's what tariffs accomplished.

786
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Speaker 9: We see the one hundred and forty thousand steel jobs

787
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 9: that are protected by tariffs. What we don't see is,

788
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 9: clearly are they a five to six million American manufacturing

789
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 9: jobs that depend upon steel for their products and everything

790
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 9: from cans to cars. Past yacht writing almost the two

791
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 9: hundred years ago made this very point. There's a you

792
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 9: have to take into account not only what you see,

793
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 9: but also what you don't see. And what we don't

794
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 9: see is the effect this is having on manufacturing across

795
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 9: the country that uses and depends upon steel in their products.

796
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Speaker 9: The more abundant the steel, the lower the price. The

797
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 9: lower the price, the better for everybody.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, Congressman representing the fifth District of the Great State

799
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Speaker 8: of California, thanks so much for being with us tonight.

800
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 9: Sir, my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

801
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 8: Absolutely all right, Everybody stick around because joining us on

802
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 8: the other side. We've got two farmers, Paul Canning and

803
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 8: Glenn Abbott, who are going to join us to talk

804
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 8: about the ten play steel tear and how they impact

805
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 8: them as farmers.

806
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Speaker 10: I'm Paul Canning and I farm in Montana, work in

807
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Speaker 10: the same ground that my family homesteaded over a century ago.

808
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Speaker 10: Out Here, we grow post crops, beans, peas, lenels, and chickpeas.

809
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 10: I'm sure you've eaten them, but you may not realize

810
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 10: how healthy they are. In fact, they're so high in

811
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 10: protein and fiber that the latest dietary guidelines say we

812
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 10: should be eating a lot more of them. They're truly

813
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 10: an American first crop. They're great for soil health, and

814
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 10: they've been a key economic driver in many small rural

815
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Speaker 10: towns all across America where they get prepared and packaged.

816
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Speaker 11: My name is blenab I'm an owner of a multi

817
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 11: generation family farm located in northwest Indiana. My dad started

818
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 11: this farm in the nineteen cities and we have been

819
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 11: growing ever since, diversifying our operation and raising corn, soybeans,

820
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 11: seed corn, and tomatoes for an American tomato canny company

821
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Speaker 11: called Regular, adding tomato to our farm with a turning.

822
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Speaker 6: Point which created opportunities for generations to come.

823
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Speaker 12: We believe in American manufacturing.

824
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Speaker 6: We believe in putting America first.

825
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Speaker 4: All right, everybody, welcome back.

826
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Speaker 8: While there is still a lot to address, the administration

827
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 8: is making significant progress on its ambitious journey to bring

828
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Speaker 8: the steel industry back home. So let's explore some innovative

829
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 8: strategies that can help pave the way for this endeavor.

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Speaker 8: Joining us now as Paul Canning, a farmer from Montana

831
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Speaker 8: you just saw in that video, and also Glenn Abbott

832
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Speaker 8: in that video, a farmer from Indiana. Paul and Glenn,

833
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 8: thanks so much for being with us.

834
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having us problem. Yeah, I love the.

835
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Speaker 8: Generational stories that you both have. Paul, I'll start with you.

836
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Speaker 8: It takes something for a generational farm to survive, and

837
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Speaker 8: that is innovation.

838
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Speaker 4: Considering the current climate that we are dealing with with.

839
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Speaker 8: Steel, Paul, how has your family had to innovate?

840
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Well, thanks, We've been here for a century, feeding the

842
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 13: American families through depressions and wars and the natural disasters

843
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 13: and everything in between.

844
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Speaker 10: And so one way we've innovated.

845
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Speaker 13: Is incorporating things like post crops, and they've really been

846
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 13: a great economic boom for us recently until the recent

847
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 13: tariffs came along on the steel can. So look, without

848
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 13: that steel can, my crops are useless if they have

849
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Speaker 13: to stay in the field. And that can is the

850
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 13: bridge my farm and the American pantry. And when that

851
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 13: bridge becomes too expensive, then farmers lose, American consumers lose,

852
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 13: and grocery bills get too high. And it's just as

853
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 13: simple as that. And so we look for alternative markets

854
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 13: rather than feeding American families. And obviously we want to

855
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 13: feed American families first.

856
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: Big choice been real quick, I want to ask a

857
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: little bit. I think everybody thinks, all right, well, if

858
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: the tin plate went up and the costs went up

859
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Speaker 2: because the tariff, well that's just going to get passed.

860
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Speaker 1: On to the consumers.

861
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: But those big distributors, they put pressure on the farmer

862
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Speaker 2: to take part of the loss too.

863
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Speaker 1: Don't take.

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Speaker 6: Yep, they sure do.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, the farmer is kind of the end user, and

866
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Speaker 12: therefore we kind of get stuck with the added cost.

867
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Speaker 12: And unfortunately the added cost puts us out of reach

868
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Speaker 12: for a global competition, which we really truly can't be

869
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Speaker 12: in that situation. Sat recently with the owner of red Gold,

870
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Speaker 12: and he described how companies across the seas could put

871
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 12: a crop some of ours into a can and ship

872
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 12: it here cheaper than we can put it in the can,

873
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 12: literally taking markets away. So we've got to find We've

874
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 12: got to find a solution for this. We need to

875
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 12: find it fast, because red Gold, the great American company,

876
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 12: is not going to be able to survive if they

877
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Speaker 12: have to buy cans that are more expensive than our

878
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Speaker 12: competition across the ocean.

879
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Glenn, I want to stand you for a moment.

880
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 8: If you sat before President Trump and said this is

881
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 8: the one thing you can do to help us out,

882
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 8: what would that be.

883
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, I believe the one thing that we could do

884
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 12: is have tariff reform. I'm not against tariff completely. I

885
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 12: think they have a place in this country. I think

886
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 12: they've done some great things in certain industries. But this

887
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 12: is an unintended consequence. They did not intend to put

888
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 12: a company like red Gold, and therefore the farmer who

889
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 12: grows for red gold in a pinch where they can't compete.

890
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 12: And so I think some reform is what's needed. And

891
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 12: if we could get that reform where we could compete,

892
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 12: I think we would deliver to the consumer the best

893
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 12: food in a can that they can have growing right

894
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 12: here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Man, for that, we love that.

896
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: Well, before we let you go right now, what's the

897
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: approximate percentage of growth and costs that these tariffs are

898
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: occuting when you can good price goes up. We've seen

899
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: some studies it looks like anywhere from seven to twenty

900
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: twenty two percent. What are you seeing on your side

901
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: of the equation, Yeah.

902
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 6: Absolutely so.

903
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Speaker 13: What we're seeing at the farm is things like pulse

904
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 13: crops are fifteen year lows right now on prices because

905
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Speaker 13: we're unable to distribute these through these through these cans

906
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 13: that we need, So fifteen year lows, we're half We're

907
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 13: getting half them out for our crop that we got

908
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 13: a year ago. And it just doesn't make sense. You know,

909
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 13: Glenn's absolutely right. President Trump has shown he's bold, he's

910
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 13: bold enough to use tariffs to support America, and he

911
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 13: could make a great, bold move right now that will

912
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 13: really help farmers, help American consumers and drop grocery bills.

913
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 13: It's a total knockout for his agenda.

914
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Speaker 8: It certainly sounds like a Paul Canning and Glenn Abott, thank.

915
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: You so much for what you do to feed our country.

916
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 6: Thanks for having us, absolutely.

917
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: All right, everybody that's going to do it for us tonight.

918
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Speaker 4: We will be back again tomorrow night at six pm Eastern.

919
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Speaker 4: Have a good one. Welcome back, everybody.

920
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Speaker 8: To borrow a line from Boltergeist, We're back, John. Something

921
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 8: that is just as scary actually, and something that we

922
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 8: were talking about with some of our guests tonight.

923
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Speaker 4: They brought up our industry.

924
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 8: Guests at the beginning of the show brought up the

925
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 8: national security crisis and the food security crisis, which you

926
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Speaker 8: typically think about with respect to Americans not having what

927
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Speaker 8: they need to stay nourished. But also they were talking

928
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Speaker 8: about the security of those cans coming over from China,

929
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 8: and goodness knows, we have enough blachulinum toxin in this

930
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 8: country in the form of botox without having to import it.

931
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Speaker 2: In ten cans, in cans or you know, the pesticides

932
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Speaker 2: that are used in countries that aren't the same as

933
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: the quality that we have here. We saw with China

934
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Speaker 2: on some of the marijuana pesticides that are now seeping

935
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: into serious health issues for people. Well, there's just a

936
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: lot of different elements to say, and you know, it's

937
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: a little issue that actually has a big consequence. And

938
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Speaker 2: what I was really first, we got a great education

939
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Speaker 2: for the industry. Yeah, and the farmers who were amazing.

940
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Speaker 2: I mean, who knew that this opened the door for

941
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Speaker 2: cheaper food to come in from overseas. But the optimism

942
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Speaker 2: that Tom mcclintech had, that Ron Johnson had, the administration

943
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Speaker 2: will get this right. We were going to try to

944
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Speaker 2: get the Treasury Secretary's top adviser in this. He gets

945
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: stuck in a plane, but he's texting us now. He's

946
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: going to try to come on next week and we'll

947
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: try to pin him down. But I bet you the

948
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Speaker 2: administration gets this fixed just right, which is.

949
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Speaker 1: Short term relief.

950
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Speaker 2: Build that's in plate industry, get more jobs and country

951
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: and then go back and put the protection in them back.

952
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: And I suspect that we'll go in the meantime. I

953
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: also picked up in both of our political lawmakers interviews

954
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: a real strong optimism that the economy is starting to

955
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: go and snap to you, and we mentioned one of

956
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: the questions, but it deserves being called a little bit more.

957
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: For the first time since twenty twenty two, Margaret trates

958
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: below six percent, that means more than a one and

959
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: a half percent decrease since the height of Joe Biden's

960
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 2: ere spending down bring inflation down. That's one of seven

961
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: or eight factors. I think this summer all hit at once. Yeah,

962
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: and those statistics start to mean something at the dinner table.

963
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Speaker 2: I think we're heading into that moment now.

964
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Speaker 13: Yeah.

965
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Speaker 8: And look, I understand there are a lot of Americans

966
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 8: out there, a lot of our viewers out there have

967
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 8: expressed that that Republicans.

968
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: Leading into the beginning of this year.

969
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 8: In November, in December, a year out from midterms, I

970
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 8: heard from a lot of viewers who said Republicans don't

971
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 8: seem like they have a sense of urgency. They don't

972
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 8: seem worried enough about midterms. And maybe that's why, maybe

973
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 8: because they knew, I mean, we all knew what was

974
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Speaker 8: in well, most of us knew what was in the

975
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Speaker 8: legislation of the one Big, Beautiful Bill.

976
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Speaker 4: And we knew that that stuff would come to fruition.

977
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Speaker 4: But I think you're right.

978
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Speaker 8: I think that a lot of that is going to

979
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 8: start being truly felt. But going back to the can thing,

980
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 8: I think that for me, just as a consumer, you know,

981
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Speaker 8: buying cans for Chili or top Go Super, whatever the case.

982
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 8: You don't think about where these cans come from. It

983
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 8: was news to me until a few days ago when

984
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 8: we started talking about this special that they're not even

985
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 8: ten cans really, I mean, they're still with that ten coding,

986
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 8: and I looked into the science behind that ten coding,

987
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 8: and I.

988
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Speaker 4: Think it was I think maybe it was Robert who

989
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: was talking about this.

990
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 8: He was talking about all the technology that's in it

991
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 8: as not an antibacterial, but basically it resists bacteria and

992
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 8: it's like point zero zero zero eight millimeters thick, so

993
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 8: it's just enough to protect that food from the outside elements.

994
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Speaker 4: And it really is amazing.

995
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Speaker 8: You don't think about all the science that goes into

996
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 8: our ag industry, but it's a remarkable.

997
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: American innovation and American jobs. Twenty three thousand jobs. And

998
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: if the ten plate industry came back instead of having

999
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: three lines, he'd go back to twelve or eighteen lines.

1000
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of jobs. Yeah, that was a fun conversation.

1001
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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: I do think Republicans still should have some emergency. I

1003
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: think on the economic issues, they don't collection security, accountability.

1004
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: We heard from you know, look at what happened to

1005
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Cash Bertel and Susy Whiles, Y'll say when we broke

1006
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: that story, and then at the end of the day,

1007
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: cutting government. Those three things are going to make are

1008
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: the economy better, but it's also going to make the

1009
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: base happier. And I think actually people in Middle America

1010
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: Independence are going to be happier to see that those

1011
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: things get done. That's the urgency. They hit those three things,

1012
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: they're going to have a fine November.

1013
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: It's going to be tougher.

1014
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 8: I think what is in the front view for a

1015
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 8: lot of people right now is to save America active.

1016
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 8: And I think for most Americans because they are so

1017
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 8: busy in their own lives and they have much more

1018
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 8: important things to worry about.

1019
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if they always separate what has happened

1020
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 4: in the House versus what's happening in the Senate.

1021
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 8: So I think for them, you think about an issue

1022
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 8: that has eighty five percent majority overall, you know, eighty

1023
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 8: two percent and then seventy six percent and other racial

1024
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 8: demographics support for the measures in that bill, and a

1025
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 8: lot of people are thinking, why haven't they done this?

1026
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, very few things are that popular.

1027
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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely all right, yeah, okay for real this time,

1028
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 8: this is the end of our show, but we will

1029
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 8: be back. We will be back tomorrow though.

1030
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Speaker 4: Have a great night.