1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: now a guy who could easily shotgun a can of 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Gatorade or beer or six pounds standing rib roast j 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: Peace shiit Rick. The man's not wrong. Welcome into Jaguars 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Happy Our our first Wednesday show of the campaign, and 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: we've got plenty to get to today. Bucky Brooks debut, 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: will get to the offensive installation and a short time 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: frame for this Jaguars offense. What can they get done 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: over the next week and a half. We'll talk about 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the defensive attrition that has happened so far and how 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the Jaguars battle that. And a report this afternoon that 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: a trade is from what imminent of Unike and go 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Way will touch on that, and we'll go around the 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: National Football League. John Osier, Jaguars senior writer with us 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: as always on Wednesday, but we welcome in the newest 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: member of the Jaguars broadcast team from NFL Network and 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: former Jaguar, Bucky Brooks. Bucky, it's great to have you 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: and thanks so much for having me home, and I'm 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: excited to be a part of the team. No doubt, John, 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: You've known Bucky for a long time. Going back to 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: the I guess the mid nineties, right, well, we had 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: two years together. As writers like to say of players 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: they cover, uh covered Buckey nine six, part of ninety 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: seven with the Jags, and then you know, in the 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: last few years as as a lot of us to 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and around the NFL have have gotten 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: a no Bucky again in his work, you know, through 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the NFL, especially leading up to the draft. He's been 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: on a lot this offseason as we geared up for this. Obviously, 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I can tell you JP 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: as a reporter, when I saw that Bucky was doing 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: well as an analyst, it didn't surprise me. He was 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: one of the better guys to talk to in the 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: locker room back then, and he's still one of the 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: better guys to talk to on television in the media now. 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: So Bucky, I'm looking forward to any Buddy, thanks so much. 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for the kind of words we need, some like 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: classic nineties six stories. We've got a whole season to 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: get to some of those, but you know, I'm excited 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: to hear some of those as we move along here. Bucky, 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: for sure, you see his work on NFL Network the 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast with Daniel Jeremiah. Five years in 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the National Football League, including some time here in Jacksonville. 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't long after that, Bucky, you 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: went straight into media work. You were pretty quick into 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: it right after you retires that right, Well, it's got 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: a four abroust seven years. So that kind of gave me, um, 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: I guess uh feel for the business in a way 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: because I was writing so much. But then man in 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, had an opportunity to start writing for 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrate it and away I went. But it's been 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: a very, very enjoyable experience and I'm really loving what 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm about to do. What you got us. Yeah, the 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: scouting part of it is interesting because you put you 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: in Daniel on a podcast together. It's like, Okay, now 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: you guys know exactly what you're looking for, what you're 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to two prospects. The pre 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: draft process is unbelievable with you two guys. But having 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: that scouting background gives you an insight that not a 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: lot of people have. Yes, Younique Man, I feel like 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: I've been blessed and fortunate in my career. It's not 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: only played for a bunch of great hit coaches, but 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: to be around a bunch of great person nail Man 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: from Ron Wolf to some of the other guys that 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I've also been around, Scott mcluen and John Snyder, I 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: feel like I've really learned a lot about the business 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: and the team. Going to process John, it's uh, it 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: is a different view of things than we would have 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: right as a as a writer and a broadcaster. You know, 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: if you haven't been inside those war rooms, it's it's 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: a little different John. To get his point of view, 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: there's no question. And a couple of weeks ago, when 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Bucky was on the Arizone Pie Cast, we talked about 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: that a little bit and I was fascinated to learn 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: how being a scout, which is much different than how 76 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: you see things as a player. I think players often 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: just see things from their own individual position point of view. 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: If you're a wide receiver, that's how you see the world. 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: You're wanting the ball, you're trying to learn the offense. 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: As a scout, you have to step back and look 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: almost down on the game from a higher point of view. 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Not that many media types which Bucky unfortunate for you. You 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: You are a media type. Now, uh not that many 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: in the media have both of those who have seen 85 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: as a player and know how players think, and who 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: have seen it from a scout. So I don't want 87 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: to say it's absolutely he's the only one. But it's 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: a very unique point of view that he comes with. 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeahs unique, But I'm excited. I'm excited to offer up 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: some analysis for the Jacks. Let's do it, man, Well, 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: let's get right into it. Let's start off though with 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: big picture. Look here, guys, it is a strange training 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: camp around the National Football League, no preseason games, you know, 94 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: it's it's difficult to get work in with only fourteen 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: padded practices. Actually eleven of those are full practices. There's 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: a ramp up period even in pads that I think 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: we're still in right now, maybe one or two more 98 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: practices before you can go a full practice in full pads. 99 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: So the time and the opportunity for players that are 100 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: maybe on the roster bubble to show off and shine 101 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: is limited at best this year. Bucky. How much of 102 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: a challenge is evaluation for a coaching staff, for a 103 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: scouting staff, a GM decision makers when there's no action 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: under the lights at all. Yeah, this is really really 105 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: tough because there are certain guys that play well during practices, 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: but there are other guys that shine in game. We'll 107 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: get back with Bucky you at a moment. Well, John, 108 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: this is you know, as we talked about before the 109 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: evaluation process, it comes down to paddent practices. That's difficult. 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: You would think though, that there's a pretty good idea 111 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: of more of the football team, which those those bubble 112 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: guys are going to be the real question mark this year. 113 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Who stays, who goes in the practice squad? Who? You know, 114 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: forty two of the guys, Uh, they're gonna be in 115 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: the team. They have a good idea. I think what's 116 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: interesting about this is the reality is with sixteen practice 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: squad guys, and this is gonna be a year where 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I think you use more than that. You're gonna have 119 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: some floaters as I call them, guys who are on 120 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: and off the practice squad. You know, I get the 121 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: cut down days a big deal in the NFL because 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: you know you're either making the team or not. But 123 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about the numbers, when you get to 124 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: eighty guy is in camp sixteen plus fifty three. All 125 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're at sixty nine guys. I don't 126 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: know that many guys here are actually fighting for jobs. 127 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: I think the teams trying to figure out who do 128 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: went on the practice squad, who do we want to 129 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: sort of have in that minor league if you will, 130 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: to quick call up. So yes, it'll affect some jobs 131 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: at the end. But I almost get the feeling in 132 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: this COVID season that there's gonna be so much opportunity 133 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: because it's some turnover that this all sort of works out, 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: and in the long run, a lot of the guys 135 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: who get cut, I think we're going to be on 136 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 1: active rosters before the end of the season. So maybe 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: it all will sort of work out over the course 138 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: of the next hopefully four months. Bucky Brooks back with us. 139 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Now we lost you, they're glad to have you back, 140 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: of course. So yeah, the the challenge here is trying 141 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: to figure out who is your core part of your 142 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: football team, Who do you want on that practice squad? 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: How do you get them to the practice squad without 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: getting them selected off waivers. Yeah, no, it is a 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: big challenge, and John, you bring up a great point 146 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: about the monor league system and using the practice squad 147 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: like that, because that's where a lot of the draftees 148 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: or the undrafted free agents that normally would have a 149 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: chance to make the team, they may find themselves on 150 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the practice squad. But because the practice squad is so 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: critical this year, the coaches have to continue to develop 152 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: the young players. It has to be a priority for 153 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to make sure they developed the young players 154 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: because you're gonna need them to play around the middle 155 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: of the season when it comes down to a cutdown. 156 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: It's not like the rosters at eighty now, right, um, 157 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: and then you've gotta be at fifty three. Maybe they've 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: added one I can't remember, and then the practice squad 159 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: is sixteen, So there's true like nine to ten actual 160 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: players that won't be around the organization unless you poach 161 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: somebody off another waiver wire, right, Bucky. That's that's kind 162 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: of the big thing. We always think about the huge 163 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: cut down from fifty three, but it seems a much 164 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: front this time around. Yeah, it's much different. And when 165 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: teams decided to become skinny, meaning only bring eight guys 166 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: into camp, you pretty much cut your team almost all 167 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: the way down. As John was refercenting, you have fifty 168 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: guys that can be on the active roster, another six 169 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: team and that practice squad mix. So right now we're 170 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: talking about sevenone guys, eight or nine guys that are 171 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: in play on the bubble. Typically the team kind of 172 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: has a general idea who they want to carry on 173 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: their squad, but they do leave a spot or two 174 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: for a surprise they may emerging camp. All right, let's 175 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: move along. Now. The other part of this thing is 176 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: teams affected by this new field. And you know, I 177 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: get to feeling, guys that a more veteran football team, 178 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: a team that has an established offensive scheme, defensive scheme, uh, 179 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: players who have been around an organization for a long time, 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: will have an advantage in this situation without preseason games, 181 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: where a team like the Jaguars is young with a 182 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, a second year quarterback, a lot of 183 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: young players on the team, they're trying just trying to 184 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: get an offense going bucky. This is I think an 185 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: advantage for a veteran team rather than a team really 186 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: like the Jaguars, it's young and trying to figure things out. Typically, 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I would say it is advantageous for a veteran team 188 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: because they already understand the system. There's a level of 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: chemistry and continuity that already exists with the team. However, 190 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: with a team that you have an offensive coordinator that's 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: new and you have young players, you can maybe catch 192 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: some early opponents by surprise because they haven't seen what 193 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: you're doing because they haven't been any preseason games. That's 194 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: an excellent point in fact, John, you know that the 195 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: next trick, John, is Jake Gruden has to figure out 196 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: what type of offense this is and can those guys 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: pick it up? And uh, it's still He said the 198 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: other day that this team is in diapers, but they've 199 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: got to put those big boy pants on pretty quick here, John, 200 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: and be ready to go week one. That's not going 201 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: on the door quick. Yeah, you better change out the 202 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: diapers fast. And he knows that there's I think it's 203 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: twelve practice in the next thirteen days something like that. 204 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely critical for Jay Gruden to figure out what he's 205 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: got during that. You know, I'll say this, I agree 206 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: with Bucky. Teams with veteran quarterbacks and coordinators who have 207 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: been together, I think have a tremendous advantage right now, 208 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I think I will say I get the Gardner Mansh's young. 209 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: I am glad for the jaguars sake that they at 210 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: least have a veteran coordinator, meaning Jay Gruden has been 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: through this before. And I think Doug Morone to a 212 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: point he didn't anticipate COVID, but he did say when 213 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: he hired Jay Gruden he didn't want a young guy 214 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: this time. He wanted somebody who had been there before. 215 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: He didn't know about COVID. But I think the fact 216 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: that COVID has come along and really cut down the 217 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: learning time absolutely means that Jay Gruden, I think, will 218 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: have a distinct advantage any veteran coordinator over a guy 219 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: who's coming in and also trying to learn how to 220 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: be a coordinator. Jay doesn't have to worry about that. 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: He knows how to do this. Yeah, let's say yes 222 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: to the next point here of go ahead, Bucky No, 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's a really good point. And the trick 224 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: will be how quickly can Jake Gruden adapt to going 225 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to MINSH you and what he has around him? How 226 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: quickly can he cut down a big playbook and make 227 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: it small and digestible for all these young guys to 228 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: be able to play fast. Yeah, what what is this 229 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: offense going to look like? That's the next question, right, 230 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Are they gonna lean on the quarterback, second year guy 231 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: with some young playmakers around him, or are they gonna 232 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: pound the rock with Leonard for that and a contract here? Bucky, 233 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: what's your gut on what this thing is gonna look 234 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: like at the start? You know, my my gut would 235 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: normally say, hey, let's lean on the running back, because 236 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: if you have a veteran running back that you can 237 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: lean on, it makes the game easier for everybody else. 238 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: But when you look at what Jake Gruden does schematically 239 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and how Garner Minshew's plays, it's kind of like a 240 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: marriage made in head. A quick rhythm passer running a 241 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: West Coast offense that gets the ball out to the playmakers. 242 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: You look at the playmakers that are on the outside, 243 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: DJ charg dd Westbrook, Lebiscus, and there are a lot 244 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: of weapons that can make place. And then don't underestimate 245 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the impact of Chris Thompson. Chris Thompson could be a 246 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: critical factor out the backfield as a wide receiver. And oh, 247 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: by the way, Lena Finette also called the ball will 248 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: out the backfield. I think it may still be past 249 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: centric with Lynn Ferns Steel having a heavy workload as 250 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: a runner. It's the great unknown for the Jaguars in 251 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: what is this thing even gonna look like? Nobody knows. 252 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's come back. We know what this defense is donald 253 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: in the past around here, but there's a lot of 254 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: new faces over there, especially over the last couple of weeks. 255 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: We'll here from Timmy Journ again when we come back 256 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: and discuss the report this afternoon that there could be 257 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: a trade upcoming involving a certain defensive end. You can 258 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: be at the bank. Football is back. Of course, the 259 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Jacks are taking every precaution to keep you safe, so 260 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: we can be dove all this fall. For more information 261 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: called six three two, or visit Jaguars dot com and 262 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: lock in your tickets. 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Whatever the team needs, you know, 291 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: if it's you know, they need me to come in 292 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: and you know, be a heavy round guy. You know, Uh, 293 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I can make that happen. I can do that. You know, 294 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: if they need me to get to the quarterback. I 295 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: feel like I got the ability to do both, you 296 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. All I need to really do 297 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: it's just proved to to to everyone that I'm ready 298 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: for that. You know, that's the biggest thing. I gotta 299 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: prove my point here within the next three weeks that 300 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh, I'm ready for the task and I 301 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: think I can do it. Timmy Juragan the defensive tackle 302 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: signed by the Jaguars this week and he joins the 303 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: defensive line room that has a whole lot of new 304 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: faces over that time period. Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy ur 305 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick with Bucky Brooks and John Osier and 306 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: we're discussing the defensive line. This has been a revolving 307 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: door the last few weeks around here, a couple of 308 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: opt outs, some guys put on reserve, are the injured 309 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: reserve list. Uh, some guy has signed. I mean, there's 310 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts here. And then this afternoon 311 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: reports are surfacing that there is a trade that is 312 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: somewhat imminent for the Jaguars of Unique and Gotkway Bucky. 313 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, we've we've heard about this all off season, 314 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: that Unique is franchise tagg He doesn't want to play 315 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: for the Jags. He wants to be moved and not 316 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: play here anymore. But this is the most definitive, at 317 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: least reporting we've seen close to a deal so far. Yeah, 318 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: it seems like it's imminent that he is going to 319 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: leave Jacksonville and was being floated out there maybe a 320 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: second or third round pick and a player coming back. 321 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: And I would say it would be a significant loss 322 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars obviously. He's a sack artist, approven sack 323 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: artist who is disruptive off the edge. He plays with 324 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: a tremendous motor. But they already put some safeguards in place. 325 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: We saw Josh Allen going into his second year, is 326 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: ready to play Caleb and Chase and was drafted in 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the first round, so they're up with a younger, more 328 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: athletic set of bookends. They may not be fully polished 329 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: and ready to go, but they certainly can get it 330 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: done with these young guys on the edges. John, They've 331 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: counted on those draft picks, as Bucky mentioned there, Josh 332 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Allen and Chason. Chason hasn't been on the practice field yet, 333 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem to be. At least the word 334 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: is that that hamstring issue is not too much of 335 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: a big deal. But obviously this will be huge if 336 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: the Jags move forward. It's a big piece of the 337 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: organization the last few years around here. Well, it's huge, 338 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: and there's no way to say that it's going to 339 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: help you on the field this year because taking a 340 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: got way out of the equation takes away not just 341 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: the sack. And I'm on record I've said before, I 342 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: don't know that he's elite in terms of sack guy don't. 343 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's an elite in terms of 344 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: defensive ends, in terms of completeness, but what he's exceptional 345 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: at is when he has a chance at the quarterback, 346 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: making the play and getting the ball out. I don't 347 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: know that you replace that element. Uh, Chason would need 348 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: to step up in a way that most edge rushers 349 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: in their first year dump Josh Allen was an exception 350 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: double digit sax that's rare. I wouldn't expect that out 351 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: of Chason. I think the person that it really puts 352 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: the onus on would be Smooth, meaning he's not really 353 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: a pure sack guy Dwayne Smoot, but he's a guy 354 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: who with effort can give you a lot. I think 355 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: he would play a big role at the big end 356 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: over there. Um, those are the kind of things that 357 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: would have to happen in terms of really having the rotation. 358 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: Defensive line is always rotational. The rotation would have to 359 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: play big. The only good news is I think Josh 360 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Allen is ready to become a guy that is the 361 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: equivalent of two players. He's that good in terms of 362 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: his impact. He can his development this year into a 363 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: year two elite guy, which I think he will be. 364 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: Could make up for the loss of a talent like 365 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: in god Way have a lot to put on Josh Allen. 366 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: But I think Josh Allen's that good. Look, he's a 367 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: dominant player. UH ten and a half sacks right out 368 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: the gate. Pro Bowl caliber player, and you could probably 369 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: say that he kind of kept Hall back a little 370 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: bit in terms of the leadership qualities. Well, now their 371 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: room is his, so he can fully be the guy 372 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: that we saw at Kentucky coming off the edge sparking 373 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the interest. But on the inside, Taven, Brian and Tim 374 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Joern again they have to step up. They have to 375 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: get someone on the inside that can give them an 376 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: inside presence. You can have one outside guy, but someone 377 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: on the inside has to be able to collapse the 378 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: pocket collapse, the pockets stop the run. That's been the 379 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: thing around here offseason. All that combined on the interior here, 380 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go a little more in onto on 381 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: the table Brian here, Bucky obviously a late first round 382 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: picked for this Jags team, at least so far, has 383 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: not had the statistical performances to to really ignite the 384 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: fan base and get everybody fired up. But he's a big, 385 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: strong guy who did it at the end of last season. 386 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: Start to come into his own a little bit, that's 387 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: got to be a good sign for him moving ahead here. Yeah, 388 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: there has to be a good sign. Normally for most 389 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: young players, particularly they were drafted high. We say the 390 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: third year is the critical year. That's when the light 391 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: bulbs should come on. So this is the big year 392 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: that everyone is expecting Brian to be the player that 393 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: he was drafted to be. He's tough, he's physical, he's 394 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: very athletic for his size. He has a really good motor. 395 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: He just hasn't been able to put it together consistently. 396 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: This is the year that we have to see the 397 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: consistency because if he plays at a consistent level, he 398 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: certainly can offset some of the disruption that will be 399 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: lost if you and Gokway is no longer part of 400 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: the team. John how big was the signing of Journeying. 401 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: I know that you know there's been so many changes 402 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: recently that's add him to the list of a new 403 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: face around here. But what are the Jaguars expect from 404 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: Journegon on the interior this defensive line. I think it's 405 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: more than we think it is right now. Well, he's 406 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: got to be a run stuff for first and foremost, 407 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: because that's what they lost and they lost Woods in Gunter. 408 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: If journe again is the guy that has he has 409 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: been most of his career, especially pre injury, and I 410 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: actually think they're okay a defensive tackle. Haven Bryant's got 411 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: to play, maybe not to his absolute potential as a 412 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: first round pick, but he's got to play between what 413 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: that and what he's played. You still have Avery Jones, 414 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: you still have journe again, and you still have Davon 415 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: Hamilton's who they like a nose tackle. The the issue 416 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: with losing the tackles is now all of these guys 417 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: have to max out. There's not a whole lot of depth. 418 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: But journ again, I'll kind of leave this to Bucky. 419 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: He watches more film of these guys than I do. 420 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: My impressions. He can give you a little pass rush, 421 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: but really he has got to help them stop the 422 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: run because the whole thing with the pass rush, I 423 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: get that there's concerned about in go Kway not being there. 424 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: They're probably him last year was never getting pass right. 425 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: It was not being able to stop the run enough 426 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of good pass rushing to do their 427 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: job effectively. So maybe Journegan can help them get to 428 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: that situation where Josh Allen and Jason can make plays. Yeah, John, 429 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. Tim Joern 430 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: again when he was coming out of Florida State. Like 431 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: there were people that thought he was gonna be a 432 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: five star playmaker. He had found his way a little 433 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: bit at the end of his tenure with the bottom 434 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: of Ravens and then with the Philadephia Eagles. But who's 435 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: not to say that the light really can come on 436 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: for him. This is a perfect situation for him to 437 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: go and be that what I call inside penetrating playmaker 438 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: that also stops to run and gets to the quarterback. 439 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: He suddenly has the talent to be able to do something. 440 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: We'll see if the Jaguars can kind of, you know, 441 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: right the ship here on the defensive line, a lot 442 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: of moving parts over the last couple of weeks and 443 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: about twelve padded practices to go until opening day. Let's 444 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: come back in a moment, gentlemen, shall we, and we'll 445 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: get into the offensive side again. 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We appreciate all 477 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: the love that you have showed us during this crisis. 478 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: For over seventy one years, we have been here for 479 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: you through good times and bad, our award winning barbecue 480 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: and our unbelievable staff. Look forward to seeing you soon 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: be safe. I went back and I looked at my 482 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: right up on him, and I was like, man, this 483 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: guy can run every route in the book. You know 484 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: he is a he is an accomplished route runner. And UM, 485 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: he hasn't disappointed. Um he's um. Um, he showed him 486 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: some physicality. UM. But um, you know we we we've 487 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: got to be smartest coaches to put him into position 488 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: where he's gonna best serve or breast. Um give us 489 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: the most that that that he's got to um to guild. 490 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: Ron Middleton, tight ends coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars fromer 491 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: Robin Tiger has a Super Bowl ring with Washington as 492 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: a tied end and now has been around this organization. 493 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: I think he's on his fifth offensive coordinator. That's something else. 494 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our j P Shadrick John Ozier 495 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: for the final segment, He's gonna jump out a little 496 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: early today. Bucky Brooks with us making his Jaguars dot 497 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: Com video debut. He was on the ozone podcast last 498 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: week check the archives on the Official Jaguars podcast network. 499 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: You know he was discussing Tyler Effort there and Bucky 500 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: the route running ability of a guy who was a 501 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: first round pick. So obviously he has some talent, but 502 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: the injury bug has bit Effort throughout his career. Finally, 503 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: last season, he plays a full season, stays healthy. When 504 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: he's healthy and ready to roll. What can this guy 505 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: bring do a j Gruden offense. He's an outstanding steam stretcher. 506 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: He's a guy that can take the top of the defense, 507 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: split the two deep zone, and really create problems between 508 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: the hashes. And because he's a big buddy guy that 509 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: has some wide receiver like skills, I can envision Jay 510 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: Gruden using him very much like he used a Jordan Reed. Remember, 511 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Reed became an All Pro caliber, a Pro Bowl 512 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: caliber tight end under Jay Gruen because he were empty 513 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: formation out and played games with the deployment of the 514 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: tight end Tyler. Iford is athletic enough to do some 515 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: of those things, he could be a huge weapon for 516 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense. And John, I heard you this morning, Bucky. 517 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know John scheduled, because John 518 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: is on about six hundred and twenty five shows a week, 519 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: whether it's here on Tintin XL radio, he is all 520 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: over the place. So I believe John, and correct me 521 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: if I'm mistaken. I heard you this morning on Jaguars 522 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: Drive Time, on this website and on this app discussing 523 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver and that his loss, now a second year player, 524 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: was banged up a lot last year. He has a 525 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: broken bone in his foot. This loss could be even 526 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: more meaningful for the Jaguars than all the defensive line changes. 527 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Was that this morning, Was I right with them? I 528 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: think it was? And J P. Here's where I'm not 529 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: as good as Buck. Bucky does few shows for much money. 530 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I think any shows for little money. So tomorrow long 531 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: Bucky's got to teach me his game, and he doesn't 532 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: want to know my games. But Josh Oliver, I think 533 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: is a huge loss. I wrote this morning for Jaguars 534 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: dot Com and in the quick thoughts that I think 535 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: it could be as big a loss as either defensive tackles, 536 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: simply because Josh Oliver is a guy that they believe 537 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: is on the vert it's hard to say on the verge. 538 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: He even on the field, they believe he's capable of 539 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: being a breakout tight end, a versat tight end who 540 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: can block, who can get down the scene. They think 541 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: he had the potential this year to break out and 542 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: be big time. With him being out, Tyler Eifford, if 543 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: he's healthy, is going to love being in Jacksonville because 544 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna get every opportunity he's gonna get. Jay Gruden 545 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: knows just how to use him and from them and 546 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: from what Middleton says, there will be no lining up 547 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: in the backfield and taking on blockers in goal line 548 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: for Tyler Eiffort. He will be a pass catching tight 549 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: end and if he's healthy, maybe the best one the 550 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Jags have had in a long long time. Yeah, there's 551 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: catching tight end. I absolutely agree. Um, the one thing 552 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: that Jake Bruton typically does from a schematic standpoint, look 553 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: for a lot of empty formations to create mismatches if 554 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: they like the young wife receiver corps, which they should 555 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: with DJ Chark and those guys. Going empty gives Tyler 556 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Efford opportunity to go one on one with linebackers and 557 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: defensive backs, and that has advantaged There's been a history 558 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: around on here the last few years, Bucky of of 559 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: not having a fullback on the roster, so lining up 560 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: the tight end in the back and and doing that 561 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: whole deal, but certainly not the ky. There is a 562 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: fullback on the roster currently, so uh, that's a little 563 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: bit of a change for the offense, at least in 564 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: training camp so far. So let's uh, we've touched on 565 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: tight ends. Let's discuss this offensive line a bit, and 566 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: you know it could be the same starting five to 567 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: start this season that ended last year. Uh, Tony Basselli 568 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: and Pete Prisco are with us on Monday nights, Bucky, 569 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: and we get a lot of insight from Basselli about 570 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line position, especially at left tackle. Of course, 571 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson is in his fourth year contract year. He's 572 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: healthy coming into training camp for the first time in 573 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: a long time. But there's also there might be a 574 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: little competition there. Will Richardson Jr. Has moved over to 575 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: left tackle. He played right tackle in college throughout his 576 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: entire career at NC State. But Cam Robinson seems to 577 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: be the guy, at least early in camp. That's fourth 578 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: year player, he's been around the league. What have you 579 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: seen from Cam in the last few years. There's a 580 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: lot of talk about footwork and things and and where 581 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: could that stand. I mean, robin center, Will Richardson could 582 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: be your left tackle this year. Yeah, it'd be interesting 583 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: because when I look at Cam Robinson, he is what 584 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: we would call the maller brawler type. His his best 585 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: traits are to lock on defensive ends and just kind 586 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: of move them off the ball. He is not necessarily 587 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: what I would call the technician that you want to 588 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: leave on the island down after down and pass protection. 589 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: And so when you're looking at Jake Gruden and what 590 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Jake Rudin wants to do, he has to make a 591 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: decision based on Okay, here's my office in line. They 592 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: played really well going forward, but my quarterback likes to 593 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: get the ball out quick. I think it leads us 594 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: to think they're gonna run the ball where they're gonna 595 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: get the ball out quick, They're gonna try and get 596 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: it to the hands of the playmakers and hope that 597 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: the quick rhythm of the passing game for text the 598 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: offensive line from having a block extended periods against talented players. John, 599 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting this this change for will Richardson. You know, 600 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: he started a couple of games earlier in the year 601 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: left tackle in place with Cam when he would had 602 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: the other leg hurt earlier in the season, and Cam 603 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: came back in Week three, but moving over to left 604 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: tackle that they really praised Richardson's play and in last 605 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: year's work with this football team, John, Yeah, they did. 606 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: I still believe that Richardson's likely role this year. I 607 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: think he'll wind up being the swing tackle and they 608 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: moved in there. Remember they lost a Bay heat, so 609 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: in the off season they were left if Cam starts 610 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: and if Joan Taylor starts, which I would expect, they 611 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: were left with no experience behind those guys. Richardson allowed 612 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: them not to go out and have to go sign 613 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: a swing tackle. So the good news is it was 614 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: a remarkably healthy offensive line last year. Now they've got 615 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: a guy who they can plug in if there's injury. 616 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that Richardson is going to beat out 617 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: a Cam Robinson. If Cam plays to his level. That's 618 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: always been a big thing that he has a level 619 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: that he hasn't reached yet. I don't know how to 620 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: predict that he'll do that or not, because he's probably 621 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: better at that than I am. But I do think 622 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: that Will Richardson could be the left tackle next year 623 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: because we don't know about camp situation at the end 624 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: of this year. Yeah, Bucky, big year for Cam obviously, 625 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: and we're talking about a contract here for a left tackle. 626 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: If he comes out and plays well, whether it's here 627 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: or you know, next year, whether it's here or somewhere else, 628 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna pay this guy a lot of money. That 629 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: left tackle money is is big on the open market, 630 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: even for Cam Robinson. But this is a huge year 631 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: for him to come out and play well. Obviously, Yes, 632 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: a huge year. And if he's motivated by money, you're 633 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: talking about playing well a sixteen million dollar annual pay 634 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: day that he could be looking at. I think the 635 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: big thing for Cam Robinson is just understanding who he 636 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: is and how he plays and making sure that the 637 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and the line coaches and everybody understand what 638 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: they have upfront. When I look at this offensive line, 639 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: this offensive line still can move people off the ball. 640 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: They still have the capacity to run the ball. Well, 641 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: how committed will they be to the running game? That 642 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: could determine what we say about the office line when 643 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: it comes to their performance and production. The arrest for 644 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: the group. Of course, Andrew Norwell left guard veteran player 645 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: in this league. Brandon Lender has has a second contract 646 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: with the Jags, a j Can veteran in the league 647 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: all with the Jaguars, and we mentioned Juwan Taylor and Bucky. 648 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: This is a guy who had fifteen penalties last year. 649 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: I think that led the league in fact. But there 650 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: is still tremendous talent there obviously, just gotta work through 651 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: some of the hiccups as a young player and get 652 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: some things going right. But the future is for Jiwan 653 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: Taylor on the right side, Yes, certainly is bright and 654 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: what we have to understand we gotta train our minds. 655 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: Did not think about the right tackle being different than 656 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: the left tackle. The right tackle now faces tough matchups 657 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: on the outside the killio Max Devon Miller's those guys 658 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: play on that side now, So you have to have 659 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: the footwork to be able to do it. And so 660 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: when when Taylor has been plagued by penalties, it's because 661 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: his technique has been off. Some of that will be 662 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: corrected by being able to work on it. The other 663 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: part will be able to be corrected because he is 664 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: better acclimated to the pace in the rhythm of the game. John, 665 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear from Juwan. I think he's on 666 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: the schedule next week to speak with the media over 667 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: a video conference on Microsoft Teams. His mindset has always 668 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: been great. He's super approachable, obviously, but he's got the 669 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: mental capacity is certainly down to to be a really, 670 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: really good player in this league for a long time. John, 671 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: And you mentioned penalties, and I get they were concerned 672 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: for him last year, but it's king when you talk 673 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: to Jaguars people about who the core of this team 674 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: going forward is. And I'll leave out the rookies because 675 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: you don't know about guys coming in. It's chart, it's 676 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: Alan and it's Juan Taylor. They feel like they've hit 677 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: on those guys. Two of them made the Pro Bowl 678 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: last year and they I've never talked to anybody within 679 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars who doesn't think that Joan Taylor has Pro 680 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: Bowl ability. Every time Doug talked about him last year, 681 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars a head coach, Doug Moron, you know, he would 682 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: talk about the penalties, but he would also say, look, 683 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: I can tell that this guy knows what he's doing. 684 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: He's going to be very very good. Again. I don't 685 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: know how you find out if he's making that jump 686 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: until the season starts. But those three guys are everything 687 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: you want in core players. And to me, those three, 688 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: along with some other guys, those three are the future 689 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: of the Jaguars. To me, Hey, Bucky, do you believe 690 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: in the whole cohesion with an offensive line thing that 691 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: you need some time together and that this group is 692 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: coming back from last year to this year? Is that 693 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: a real thing for you and for scouts that that 694 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: look at this thing, we'll get back with that. Bucky, 695 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: In just a moment, I lost, but I'm back down. Yeah, 696 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: I lost your fore manute, but I'm bad. So look, 697 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: when you talk about the core, I think here's what's 698 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: apparent about the core for the Jacksonville Jaguars and turning 699 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: over newly for trying to re establish this culture. The 700 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: guys that you talk about are tough, hard working and 701 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: competitive and you always want to take chances on those guys. 702 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: And so as Doug Marone and Dave carle Will are 703 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 1: rebuilding this team, they want to get like minded, blue 704 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: collar dudes who really embrace the team concept and want 705 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: to do it the right way. It may not show 706 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: up immediately and the win lost column, but eventually they 707 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: will rebuild it, repaired, and they'll get back to where 708 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: Jacksonville was a few years ago. All right, John, I 709 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: know you've got to run early today. What do you 710 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: have coming up in the next few days on Jaguars 711 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey, yeah, JP, we're on the field six 712 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: days in or I'm just trying to get through it, 713 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: and uh, it will be covering the video conferences and 714 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: after the next six days, it will be a lot 715 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: of what's going on on the field, what people are saying. 716 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: I was going on the field to me these next 717 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: six days and a few practices after that. This is 718 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: training camp. This is the key, and I think we're 719 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna find out a lot about how Doug Moron and 720 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: some of the leaders feel about this team. Yeah, no doubt. 721 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: The next few days are critical. And then that's not 722 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: just here. Bucky gets around the National Football League and 723 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: excited to see what happens in the next week or so. 724 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: John will catch you again next week, Bucky, stay right there. 725 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: We'll be back. We'll go around the National Football League 726 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: when we return. Florida Blue is here to help you 727 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: better understand COVID nineteen, share information to help protect you 728 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: and your family, and make sure you get the care 729 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: and so fort you need during this challenging time. 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Head coach Doug Marone 769 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: miked up training camp practice earlier this week, and the 770 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: full segment will be available very soon on Jaguars dot 771 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: com and on Jacks social media. Check out the guys 772 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: do a great job with the miked up segments. J 773 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: P Shadrick Bucky Brooks Jaguars Happy Hour continues. Bucky is 774 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: great to have you. John Osier a little earlier today. 775 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back with him, uh next week. Of course, 776 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: let's touch before we go around the league. I'm interested 777 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: in like a scouts perspective on all this college football news. 778 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Big Ten, Impact twelve of postponed the season, 779 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: SEC Big twelve and the a CEC are still scheduled, 780 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: but now schools are starting to send kids away again, 781 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: and now Ohio States talking about putting their own schedule together. 782 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: What in the world does that do, not only for 783 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: a scouting staff trying to look at players, but players 784 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: who might have to decide to opt out and go 785 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: to the draft and or or play the spring. That's 786 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: it's a lot of decisions to be made, a lot 787 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: of decisions to be made. Jp first for the players. 788 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: The players that are most effected right now by the 789 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: college situation will be not the top guys, but the 790 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: guys they were developmental types. Just so we understand, the 791 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: last three number one picks when they entered the season, 792 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: they weren't viewed as first rounders, and so they worked 793 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: their way into the conversation not only as first rounders, 794 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: but as guys they were at the top of the charts. 795 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: So we won't do that luxury this year. From a 796 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: scouting standpoint, it makes it very very difficult if you're 797 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: a Dave cold Will and you have kind of stockpiled 798 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: these uh draft hicks so that you can rebuild your 799 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: team with these guys. Now there's more uncertainty about the 800 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: readiness of the players that will be in the one class. 801 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: So how hard do you go in on those guys 802 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: when you may not have been able to see them 803 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: play for twelve to eighteen months. It makes it very 804 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: very tricky for team builders when it comes to the 805 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: one draft and how do you build your team with 806 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: those guys in mind? Nick Saban the other day, head 807 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: coach at Alabama, you might have heard of him. Uh, 808 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: he said that if these conferences moved to a one 809 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 1: spring season, that it could be a j V field. 810 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: Juniors and seniors might say, you know what's Sionara, I'm 811 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: not playing two seasons. I'm getting out of here. Uh. 812 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: That's gotta be tough to play a spring schedule. I mean, 813 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: especially if players are sticking around and having to se 814 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: sasons in one calendar year. That's a huge ask. I 815 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: mean it's a huge ask, but I think it can 816 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: certainly be done. Now the key will be can college 817 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: coaches find a way to come up with practice schedules 818 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: that take care of the players. But if you have 819 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: seen the change that has happened in the National Football 820 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: League when it comes to practice, you don't see as 821 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: many padded practices. You don't see a lot of live tackling. 822 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: It's more about the sports science and getting your guys 823 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: ready to play. If you took that approach with college, 824 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: you certainly can do it. It would take some alterations 825 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 1: when it came to the schedule. When does this springe 826 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: schedule start? When does it in? More importantly, when does 827 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: the fall portion of the schedule start? And when does 828 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,240 Speaker 1: it in. It is not ideal, but it certainly is doable. 829 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: Something to watch for sure. And I think we're well 830 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: over a month until the SEC is scheduled to begin. 831 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: They just put out the schedule the other day, so 832 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: a little time. And as we know these days, a 833 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: lot can happen in a short amount of time, not 834 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: only in sports, but around just life in general. Let's 835 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: go around the National Football League, shall we, and start 836 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: off with Joe Judge of the New York Giants making 837 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: players run in response to mistakes at practice. Kim Jones 838 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: was on the Zoom Call and Judge this week and 839 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: tweeted about the the situation there, and you responded as 840 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: well on Twitter that you know it's uh, you know this. 841 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: Here's the tweet right here, being tough while coaching players. Um, 842 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: they're not gonna sing Kumbaya together and think we're going 843 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: to advance. Well, you've responded to this that he better 844 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: be real about this or they're gonna stiff it out 845 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: pretty quick. Yeah. I mean, look, I played for one 846 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: of the toughest coaches that you can find in Coach Coffin, 847 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: and I think the thing that you have to be 848 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: mindful of is when you take this approach, you have 849 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: to get real investment from the players, and that investment 850 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: comes from the results. Players will tolerate and deal and 851 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: handle the demanding nature of your coaching style if it 852 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: leads to results. However, if you're the meeting players and 853 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: you don't get the results, your players will bail quickly. 854 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: So Joe Judge just needs to make sure that he 855 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: is being himself, that this isn't an act. He's not 856 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: trying to imitate Bill Belichick, but these are his core 857 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 1: values and the things that he believes in in terms 858 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: of what helps a team win games. I would like 859 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: to think that when you played for Tom Coughlin that 860 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: it was not an act. It was that accurate. Uh, 861 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: It definitely was not an act, and it was challenging 862 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: in terms of growing accustomed to it. But the results 863 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: were what The results were won a lot of games 864 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: during that period. But it is hard to sustain it 865 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: if the connectivity is not right between the coaching staff 866 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: and the players. I'm not saying you have to be friendly, 867 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: but there has to be some communication and some effective relationships. 868 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: Let's continue, we go out to the desert DeAndre Hopkins 869 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: and camp for the Cardinals, but he's not participating in 870 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: padded practices. You know. On Pro Football Talk today, Mike 871 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: Florio brought up the idea that this might be a 872 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: situation where he's kind of holding off to the side 873 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: until a deal gets done. Do you think that's the 874 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: case and does he get a number close to Julio 875 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: Jones if he gets the news. I mean, I know 876 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: he would like to get a deal. I know there 877 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: was a point of contention while he was in Houston, 878 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: but man, I don't know if you can fork over 879 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: that kind of money. Um, right now, you haven't even 880 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: seen him in your system. Uh, the Julio Jones money 881 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: is extraordinary. I just don't know. Look, DeAndre Hopkins is 882 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: certainly in that conversation. Man. To give a wide receiver 883 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: that much money, I don't know, but I certainly understand 884 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 1: it because you want to put it around. You want 885 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: to put in a level player around, calla Murray. So 886 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: I expect the Cardinals to evinceently pony up when they 887 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: have to. It's gonna say. I mean, he is one 888 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: of if you your name and receivers right now, he's 889 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: in two three right here. Yeah, Michael Thomas, m Julio Jones, 890 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: whatever flavor ice cream you like, that's who you're going 891 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: to go with. Man, big money, big money. You have 892 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: to call up in the desert to keep him. Start 893 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: running some sprints here soon. Um, let's move to New England, 894 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: where Cam Newton, Brian Hoyer, and Jared Steadham are reportedly 895 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: splitting reps at Patriots camp. Belichick is not named the 896 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: starter publicly, yet this has to be Cam's gig, right, 897 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 1: that's not. They didn't bring him there for nothing. I mean, 898 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: I would think so Cam is far more talented than 899 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: either candidate. We've seen Brian whore you play. It doesn't 900 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: necessarily excite you. Jared Stidham was a fourth round pick. 901 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: We don't know what it can be, but I will 902 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: say this Cam was a number one pick. He was 903 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: an m v P. Unless he just absolutely stinks up 904 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: the joint, I would expect him to be the starting 905 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Patriots. Are you concerned about his health 906 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: at all? Yes, that's what you have to be concerned 907 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: about it because the last two seasons we've seen him 908 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: go out. However, if he he's healthy, he gives the 909 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: pages an opportunity to do some stuff that they haven't 910 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: been able to do for years. And with Bill Belichick 911 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: seeing Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, these mobile playmakers 912 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: have his success, I'm sure he's tempted to put in 913 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: some packages for Cam Newton to allow him to create 914 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: the kind of headaches for others. Yeah, he can certainly 915 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: create headaches. There's no doubt about that. Then. Our final 916 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: thought today around the National Football League, Drew Pearson and 917 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: Tom Flores selected as finalist for the Hall of Fame 918 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: Class of one. Pearson selected as the senior finalist for 919 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: as the senior finalists from the coaching ranks. Pierson of 920 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: course at three time All Pro and All Decade team 921 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: member in the nineteen sevent eighties Super Bowl twelve champion 922 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,720 Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys, UM. And then of course Flora 923 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: has played quarterback for the Raiders in nineteen sixty he 924 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: was their first quarterback and ended up coaching them the 925 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: second winning is coaching Raiders history behind John Madden. Congratulations 926 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: to those guys, Um. You know, you know, obviously Pearson 927 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: had a great career, but for me, the standout moment, 928 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: and at least, you know, I'm a little younger, was 929 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: his troll job on the Philly fans at the draft 930 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: that year from the stage that was incredible. I mean, 931 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: does go Jackie worthy in itself, the way that he 932 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: trolled them at their draft party. Yes, he deserves to 933 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: be in the consideration and in the Hall, and I 934 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: think this is great that he's finally made it past 935 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: the barrier. He's one step closer to getting in. And 936 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: then Tom Flory's certainly deserves to be in the Hall 937 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: of Fame. You talk about his record, his second highest 938 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: playoff winning percentage behind Vince Lombardi. Nobody talks about that. 939 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: You think about a two time super Bowl winner with 940 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: that kind of winner for centage, you would like to 941 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: think that he gets in. All right. There'll be eighteen 942 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: finalists on Super Bowl weekend, including Pierson Flores a senior 943 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: contributor to be named a little bit later, and then 944 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: fifteen modern era finalists. Let's see if we get Basselli 945 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: in there this year to the vote needed. As we 946 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: all know by now, Um, Hey, what do you think, Bucky? 947 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: First show? First show man? I loved it. I'm so excited. 948 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: I promise I'll be better next time. I have a 949 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: little more chemistry and flow. But I loved it. It 950 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: was great, all right, first time out. We've got a 951 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of these to go and we look forward to 952 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: them all. We appreciate your time as always there thanks 953 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: to John Oser, our entire crew for putting these together. 954 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: For everyone involved on JP Shadrick and We'll catch you 955 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.