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Speaker 1: and we still hear about him all the time. Okay.

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Speaker 1: In that vein, let me introduce to you our guest today.

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Speaker 1: It's Nate Eaton, and I believe I can say not

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Speaker 1: only my colleague, but now my friend, Nate, thank you

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Speaker 1: Nate eating is the news director at East Idaho News

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Speaker 1: dot com. You can find him on Facebook Nate Eaton

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Speaker 1: dash Reporter. That's your Facebook handle, right, Nate Eaton dash Reporter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Instagram at in dot Eaton Nate. Okay, I've got a

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Speaker 1: it Mom Laurie Valo. But first, there's a certain spring

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Speaker 1: and back on Lorie Valo. That's something I can tell

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Speaker 1: you about trials. Why she's so happy in court? Is

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Speaker 1: it because she's seeing day Bell. Well, they did appear

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Speaker 1: And one thing that stuck out to me, Nancy, is

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Speaker 1: or just call it mom, please? You're hurting my ears.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. He had a smile on, she had on

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Speaker 1: will not be sequestered. When it comes to the penalty phase.

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Speaker 1: When they're found guilty, then they have to decide on

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Speaker 1: the penalty. The jury will be sequestered during that. Another question,

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Speaker 1: they judge ruled on a day bill trial postponement. Who

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Speaker 1: wanted a postponement or Chad side the Chad side. Who's

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Speaker 1: wanted that postponement? And how did the judge rule X nay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the judge that I can't be because the cases are

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Speaker 1: tried together, and I can't push Laurie's case any further

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Speaker 1: without a severance. That's right. If he postpone owned day Bells,

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Speaker 1: hers would have to be postponed. Also if they're going

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Speaker 1: to be tried together, and we can't postpone hers because

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Speaker 1: of the speedy trial demand, therefore they both have to

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Speaker 1: go forward. What was his grounds for requesting a delay

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Speaker 1: the DNA evidence. Yeah, and it's interesting you think about this.

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Speaker 1: As I said, we're three years into it and he's

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Speaker 1: still getting evidence turned over, and from what I have heard,

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Speaker 1: the evidence of stuff, electronic evidence is just they said

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Speaker 1: last week, I believe that they had a two thousand

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Speaker 1: pages of documents. Hey, you know what, if you don't

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Speaker 1: want to deal with two thousand pages of new documents

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Speaker 1: against you, don't commit triple murder. There I put it

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Speaker 1: out there. Remember that, Nate Eton, don't commit triple murder

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Speaker 1: if you don't want two thousand documents a brand new

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Speaker 1: evidence thrown at you four or five weeks before trial.

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Speaker 1: They can both sit there and simmer and stew and

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Speaker 1: think about what they've done. Wait, Calma Laurie Valen's not

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Speaker 1: thinking about what she's done. She's busy making you pink

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Speaker 1: lip gloss for her next sport appearance. Okay, Nate Eden,

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Speaker 1: run with the wind Man. Thank you for joining us. Well,

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Speaker 1: stay on it