1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Wednesday, November twelfth, and a breaking 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: story on this Wednesday. The story Trump quote knew about 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: the girls, and with that, welcome to this episode of 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. Roabes. That is a direct quote from 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: an email exchange involving Jeffrey Epstein. Some emails were just released, 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: and these might be bombshells. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Ropes, They are bombshells. This is probably the first damning slash, 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: smoking gun connecting Trump to Epstein. Beyond just a friendship. 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: He's always said that his friendship ended before any of 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: this was going on, and once he realized Jeffrey Epstein 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: was being quote unquote a creep to some of his employees, 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: he kicked him out and their friendship ended. So this 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 2: would fly in the face of that. 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: It flies in the face of that because it was 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: very easy for people to get in front of a 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: microphone and say, hey, this didn't happen. I didn't know him, 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: we weren't close, and people can have all kinds of 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: he said, She said, these are emails that go back 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: a decade plus, people talking in private, not ever thinking 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: these are going to get released. This is giving us 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: insight and quite frankly, some truth the way we've never 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: necessarily seen it before in this story, certainly the way 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: it goes with their relationship Epstein and Trump. 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: Look, I know that there are conspiracy theorists out there abound, 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: but there has always been a glaring lack of transparency. 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: And so when President Trump said he was going to 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: actually lift the veil on the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, that 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: he was going to have his people interview Glaine and 29 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: we were going to get to the bottom of things. 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: When we got what we received, what the Trump administration 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: allowed to be released, there was nothing of any consequence, 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: truly or substance that we didn't already know. And to 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: be told, there is nothing else when these girls are 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: saying there's a lot more. When we have Virginia Giuffrey posthumously, 35 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: but even in the decades leading up to her untimely death, 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: was saying there's more to this story. And now we 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: get these emails. 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: And what we're talking about, folks, is three emails. So 39 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: here we are, we're recording this midday before even noon 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday. Emails just dropped from the House 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee. We're talking about three email exchanges, in particular, 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: now I say the House Oversight Committee, but we're talking 43 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: about the Democrats on this House Oversight Committee that have 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: been subpoenaing documents from the Jeffrey Epstein estate. This is 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: a part of that stack of documents. Now, there are 46 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: plenty more documents, but the Democrats decided they only wanted 47 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: to release these in particular. Now, Roobes, you don't even 48 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: have to be cynical on this one. Today, on the 49 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: day there just happened to be ending the longest shutdown 50 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: in government history, the whole narrative might be possibly changing 51 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: in DC correct. 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: I mean, look, the end of the shutdown is certainly 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: good news for federal workers, for people who have air 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: travel over the next few days and weeks and months. 55 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: But certainly this isn't a good thing for Democrats. Most 56 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Democrats are upset. 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: They lost. 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: They have egg on their face. They took this stand 59 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: only to surrender and get nothing in return. So, now, 60 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: if you can shift the narrative, if you can now 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: get everyone not talking about that and instead talking about 62 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: President Trump, this is one hell of a way to 63 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: do it. 64 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Like the House Oversight Committee, the House that ain't been 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: at work in two. 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: Months, some of them have been working feverishly, just not 67 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: on reopening the government, They've been working feverishly to connect 68 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein as they have been Look, 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: we have been doing podcasts on some of what they 70 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: have been releasing, and they've been releasing and clearly trying 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: to connect the dots that what's happening with Gallaine Maxwell 72 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: and the seemingly preferential treatment she's been receiving, and the 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: fact that he hasn't ruled out pardoning her as some 74 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: sort of sweetheart, backdoor deal that's going on. And now 75 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: to have these emails come out, it does make connecting 76 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: those dots seem a little easier. 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: All Right, We're going to give you directly without interpretation 78 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: at least at first, and let you hear what these 79 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: emails are. Now, there are three exchanges. We will read 80 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: them verbatim to you. 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So this first exchange is between Jeffrey Epstein and 82 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: Gallaine Maxwell, and it is dated April second, two thousand 83 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: and eleven. So this is after his sweetheart deal. This 84 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: is after he got off with really a slap on 85 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: the wrist, truly for all that had already been known. 86 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein writes this, I want you to realize that 87 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: that dog that has embarked is Trump a victim. We 88 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: didn't have the name. Victim spent hours at my house 89 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: with him. He has never once been mentioned, police chief, etc. 90 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm seventy five percent there. Glene Maxwell writes back, I 91 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: have been thinking about. 92 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: That some stuff, and they're not exactly clear what there 93 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: are a reference to. Now victim, the name is redacted. 94 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: We're going to get into who. The White House in 95 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: their response says they believe the person being mentioned. They 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: flat out come out and say this victim's name in 97 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: their response. Will read you their full response. But gropes 98 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: how damning is that this victim spent hours at my 99 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: house with Donald Trump? This is dated twenty eleven. 100 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: And saying that Trump has chosen not to talk or 101 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: not to tell on Jeffrey Epstein or say that he 102 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: knew of or had witnessed anything. Why would someone not 103 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: want to say that they could add to the investigation 104 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: or give more information dot dot dot. 105 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: We'll get to the second email exchange here. Now this 106 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: one we're taking him in chronological order here, but this 107 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: was many many years later, in twenty fifteen. 108 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: This is an exchange between author and journalist Michael Wolfe 109 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: and Jeffrey Epstein. It is dated December fifteenth, sixteen and 110 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: sixteenth of twenty fifteen. So Michael Wolfe sends this to 111 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. I hear CNN planning to ask Trump tonight 112 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: about his relationship with you, either on air or in 113 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: scrum afterward. Jeffrey, if we were able to craft an 114 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: answer for him, what do you think it should be? 115 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Michael wolf responds, I think you should let him hang himself. 116 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: If he says he hasn't been on the plane or 117 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: to the house, then that gives you valuable pr and 118 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: political currency. You can hang him in a way that 119 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if it 120 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: really looks like he could win, you could save him 121 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that when asked, 122 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: he'll say, Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten 123 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, 124 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime. Wow, 125 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: that one is frightening. 126 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: It's frightening. It's damning for Michael wolf is it now? 127 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: His name is being thrown around a lot, and he 128 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: is absolutely trending as we speak now. He did give 129 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: a response, at least according to See an End to 130 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: them about it, saying, I don't quite remember the context, 131 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: but I was engaged then in an in depth conversation 132 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: with Epstein about his relationship with Trump, and this seems 133 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: to be part of that conversation. That was his response. 134 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: The wh this ill. 135 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: Is this looks like he was collaborating with, conspiring with, 136 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: advising with and looking to use Trump to gain some 137 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: sort of advantage. 138 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: Is this what that all that city in the world 139 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: really is in politics? He is actually saying to him 140 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: that you you can actually work this thing to your favor. 141 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: You can blackmail the president. You can because of what 142 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, which is what. 143 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: It's what the implication is, you know that he knows, 144 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: and just by him knowing, even if he didn't do 145 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: anything participate in any illegal activity, knowing and not acknowledging it, 146 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: disteing yourself from something that you were in the middle of. 147 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: All of that obviously would be damning as hell to 148 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: President Trump. And look, this is while he is running 149 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: for his first term in office. And to think that 150 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: they were both saying, hey, and if he becomes president, 151 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: that could actually work to our advantage because we could 152 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: have him owing us. 153 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: They want him to deny it. They're saying, if he 154 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: comes out and denies all this stuff in public, you 155 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: are golden because you know it's a lie. 156 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: It generates a debt. That suff generates a debt. That 157 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: is such a frightening phrase that was written. And again 158 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: these are emails that neither Jeffrey Epstein nor Michael Wolfe 159 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: thought would ever see the light of day. 160 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: The last exchange here was dated January thirty first, twenty nineteen, 161 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: So again, many years later, this was between you know what, 162 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: looking at this date twenty nineteen, when did he die? 163 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: He died? Epstein died by suicide in nineteen twenty. He 164 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: died that same year he died in I believe it 165 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: was the summer of twenty nineteen. 166 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: It might have been AUGUSTA yeah, I'm just August. It 167 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: is just coming to mid So this appears to be 168 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: the year that he passed. January thirty first, twenty nineteen 169 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: is when this email exchange is dated. But soign exchange 170 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: is just one way an email the Democrats released from 171 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein to the author Michael Wolfe. You have a 172 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: victim's name redacted, and then it just says Mara Lago. 173 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Then you have something else redacted, and then it continues 174 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: from Jeffrey Epstein to Michael Wolfe saying, Trump said, he 175 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: asked me to resign, never a member. Ever, of course 176 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: he knew about the girls as he asked Gallane to stop. 177 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: That is the most damning of the three. Yes, they're 178 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: all pretty awful, but this one makes me feel physically ill, 179 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: it really does it. Actually, it makes me emotional because 180 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: no one believed these girls. No believe Virginia. And she 181 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: was pointing the finger at Galline. She was pointing the 182 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: finger at Epstein, and to think, and she said, powerful 183 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: people know what he's doing. And he is very much 184 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: making it clear to all of us girls that he 185 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: is so connected with so many powerful people. We can't 186 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: tell anyone, and no one will believe us, and even 187 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: if they did, they won't be able to do anything 188 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: about it because of who his friends are. So to 189 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: see this in writing is really really awful. 190 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: This is years ago. I'm not exactly sure at this point, Romes, 191 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: most people listening have a general idea of this story 192 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: and what it's about, and can hear these emails for 193 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: themselves and can piece it together and already know, ooh, 194 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: that's bad. It doesn't need that much context, and it's 195 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: hard to understand the defense for this or the explanation. 196 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Now you've been looking, right, we've both been trying to 197 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: get as much done on the story as we can. 198 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: Have you seen anywhere you mentioned conspira theories earlier and 199 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: the theorist out of there. There's no one trying to 200 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: say this is fake or these were made up emails? 201 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: Right, No, because no, I haven't seen that anywhere. And 202 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: my point being that some people were acting as though 203 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: some of the girls, some of the other folks who 204 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: were demanding transparency were believing or buying into conspiracy theories, 205 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: when the truth is, I think we know when we're 206 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: not getting all the truth, and I think everybody felt 207 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: uneasy about that fact that we weren't getting the whole truth, 208 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: that it was being suppressed, and so seeing these emails 209 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: one hundred percent confirms that. So anyone who wanted to 210 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: throw conspiracy theorists at the folks who were actually demanding 211 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: or looking for the truth. Here is exhibit A. 212 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: I guess these were our dated literally the decade plus ago, 213 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: exchanges from people in private that never thought these would 214 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: make it to the light of day, who are speaking 215 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: honestly to each other about some pretty awful stuff. Know 216 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: how we can take these as anything other than the 217 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: truth being exchanged from people in private. 218 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I'm not surprised, but I am sickened. 219 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: I what is it? I guess you know, you want 220 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: to kind of believe. You wanna believe that these folks 221 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: weren't involved. You want to, you actually want to. And 222 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: as we never got a hard, concrete evidence in proof 223 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: right of certain things, and even folks were coming out, 224 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: even I Gleam Maxwell, nobody ever said they saw Trump 225 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: do anything wrong. You want to believe, even though you 226 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: know there's a connection, you want to believe to see this. 227 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how this is short of evidence. Not 228 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: that he is a criminal of any kind in any 229 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: of this, Let's make that clear. But there is more 230 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: to President Trump and this relationship and what we know 231 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: about what he knows. And this makes it feel worse. 232 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: It does, But they had an answer for this. Folks, 233 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: stay here, we'll come back. We're going to give you 234 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: the full and lengthy White House response to these new. 235 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: Emails, continuing with this breaking news that is coming out 236 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: of Washington, d C. We are getting three damning emails 237 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: that the White House, I excuse me, that the White 238 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: House is now responding to, but that the House Democrats 239 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: from the House Oversight Committee have released. They have been 240 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: releasing emails, they've been releasing information as they have been 241 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: subpoena ing from the Jeffrey EPs Dean estate, trying to 242 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: get to the truth, trying to find out some answers 243 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: to questions that remain despite all the investigations, despite all 244 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: of the information that we've been given, we kind of 245 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: have all known that there was more, and we were 246 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: told from the White House that they had to redact 247 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: and keep certain files private and wouldn't be releasing them 248 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: because they were protecting victim's identities and so on and 249 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: so forth. Okay, but now these three emails come out 250 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: and they're nothing short of well, they're bombshells. They're jaw dropping. 251 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: To add to the story as well, yes, Democrats released 252 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: three three emails out of twenty thousand pages. So after 253 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats released this, Republicans came back and then did 254 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: the entire document dump, so put all twenty thousand of 255 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: the pages out. I don't know when they planned on 256 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: doing that, but the Democrats did take advantage of a 257 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: moment and plucked out what they wanted to and got 258 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the headlines that they wanted. Now, you can certainly take 259 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: issue with their tactics they're timing, but you cannot deny 260 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: what is actually there. And again I was, I was 261 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: asking you, is anyone trying to say this was, Well, no, 262 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: you can't say that because it's part of a big, old, 263 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: big old file of stuff. They didn't just come out 264 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: of the blue and something random produced. These specifically are 265 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: a part of subpoenaid items from the Epstein estate. They 266 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: gave this to our members of Congress. 267 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: This stuff is legit, yes, and so the White House 268 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: has responded. This came from Carolyn Levitt, correct. This is 269 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: what she said in response to these emails. The Democrats 270 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a 271 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: fake narrative to smear President Trump. The unnamed victim referenced 272 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: in these emails is the late Virginia Giuffrey, who repeatedly 273 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: said President Trump was not involved in any wrongdoing whatsoever 274 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: and couldn't have been friendlier to her in their limited interactions. 275 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: The fact remains that President Trump kicked Jeffrey Epstein out 276 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: of his club decades ago for being a creep to 277 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: his female employees, including Jeufray. These stories are nothing more 278 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: than bad faith efforts to distract from President Trump's historic accomplishments, 279 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: and any American with common sense sees right through this 280 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: hoax and clear distraction from the government. Opening back up again, um. 281 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: Uh okay, I agree with the line as she says, 282 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: these stories are efforts to distract from President's accomplishments. 283 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Sure, of course they are. Believe that, and look, if 284 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: the victim, the unnamed victim, the redacted name, was Virginia Jeufrey, 285 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't take away from what the email is implying 286 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: because Virginia, and from everything I have heard and read, 287 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: there's not one woman, There's not one young girl. At 288 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: the time, no one has said that President Trump took 289 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: part in any illegal behavior or activity with any woman 290 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: or underage girl. So that's never been the accusation. So 291 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: that's also distracting from what the implication is. The implication 292 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: is knowing what was going on and doing nothing about 293 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: it and denying that you knew. It's not that he 294 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: had anything to do specifically with the girls. 295 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Unnamed victim reference in these emails is Virginia Gewfrey. Well, 296 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: there's a line in which an unnamed victim spent hours 297 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: at my house with Trump. That is the line from 298 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein Blank spent hours at my house with him. 299 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: So what is that supposed to me? If they say 300 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: the victim there is Virginia Jeufray. 301 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: And virgin I will tell you. Virginia. Look, just from 302 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: the interview I had with her all those years ago, 303 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: she never once said she spent hours and hours with 304 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: President Trump, So it would that would be strange. She 305 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: would think she. 306 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Could get the victim wrong. Well, I'm saying, is it 307 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: possible with the White Houses? Of course, it's possibly mistaken. 308 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: In or they're just choosing to name this victim because 309 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: she's passed. They can't name someone who's alive that would 310 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: be completely inappropriate. So it may be that they're choosing 311 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: that victim because she can't refute it. 312 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: And she also has an accused never accused. 313 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: She she has not, and she said he was friendly. She 314 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: said that the limited interactions she had with him were pleasant. 315 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: So I don't know. It seems difficult to put those. 316 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: Two things together, and maybe that's a part of the point, 317 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: is NonStop confusion. What actually happened? Who actually knew what? 318 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: So here we go, so you think you hear one thing, 319 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: and then I have no idea how they're going to 320 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: this story is going to unfold. 321 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm also interested. So Michael Wolfe, just for folks who 322 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: don't know, has written four books about the President of 323 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 2: the United States. 324 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: He has been most lettering. 325 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: Adversarial I was just gonna say, towards this administration, and 326 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: is currently has a lawsuit against Malania Trump. So he's 327 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: suing Malania Trump because she threatened to sue him. So 328 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: these are not friendly folks. What I'm curious about is 329 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: if Michael Wolfe had all this information. I don't know 330 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: if he kept these emails, but he's a part of 331 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: these email threads. Why he wouldn't have exposed this, Why 332 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have written about this, Why he wouldn't have 333 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: taken this and talked about it as a journalist as 334 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: an author. That's confusing to me. I know he might 335 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: not have wanted to be closely tied to Epstein or 336 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: in some way pulled into this narrative. But that's also 337 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: confusing to me. 338 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: He is being asked a lot of questions online right 339 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: now this I don't know where this takes us. Now. 340 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: I think the story is one right, if you're on 341 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: this side, do you believe this? You on this side, 342 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: you believe that? And the truth is somewhere in the middle. Probably, 343 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: But we'll follow this when there might be an update 344 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: on this today as there's more fallout. But folks are 345 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: just going to hop in when this news did break. 346 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: But for now, I'm TJ. Holmes along with my partner 347 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Amy Robot. We'll talk to you soon.