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Speaker 1: Welcome to a week five edition Between the Horns. My

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Speaker 1: name is JB. Long and if you're watching us live

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Speaker 1: on our social and digital channels, good morning. Hope you're

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Speaker 1: having a great week. If you're catching us on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: drive safely, enjoy your workout, your walk, whatever you might

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Speaker 1: be doing. Alongside team reporter Serena Morales, who's been on

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Speaker 1: mute for a couple of minutes as the emergency service

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Speaker 1: vehicles go by. Everything. Okay there, Serena, We're good now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: she's back on Wonderful and my RAMS radio partners are

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Speaker 1: here as well. Super Bowl champion DeMarco farr is battling

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Speaker 1: through homeschooling. Yes, sir, doing my best. JB. And Maurice Jones, Drew,

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Speaker 1: how's your comeback big going? Are you ready for some

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Speaker 1: red zone carries yet? Close? I would say two or

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Speaker 1: three weeks away. But it's ice bath time today, so

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Speaker 1: we're recovering the recovery process. Report Well, the c. J.

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Speaker 1: Anderson game plan is still locked in under key for

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Speaker 1: whenever you're ready to pull the trigger on that, Serena.

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Speaker 1: Week five is upon us the three and one Rams.

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Speaker 1: They're heading back to the East Coast for the third

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Speaker 1: time in four weeks to face one and three Washington.

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Speaker 1: But before we dive into that one, let's take a

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Speaker 1: look back at the rams seventeen to nine victory over

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Speaker 1: the Giants and so Fi Stadium. Yeah, it wasn't pretty,

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Speaker 1: but a win is a win, right, guys, We're never

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Speaker 1: going to complain about those. So really the key is

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Speaker 1: what did we learn right? The defense kind of needs to,

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Speaker 1: you know, they continue to step up, I should say,

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Speaker 1: held the New York Giants the three field goals, sack

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Speaker 1: to find a rhythm two hundred and forty total yards.

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Speaker 1: That was their lowest since Week twelve against the Ravens

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Speaker 1: last year. Mgdal, I'll start with you ice bath guy.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this offense find rhythm here?

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Speaker 1: Do they all just need to take ice baths? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I think we didn't give the Giants Front seven enough credit.

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Speaker 1: I mean DeMarcus Lawrence and company. They did a great

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Speaker 1: job of forcing the Rams to be one dimensional, which

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Speaker 1: allowed them to run certain coverages. When you're playing Jared Golf,

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Speaker 1: to take off and run. You could play two man

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Speaker 1: and all two man is is two safeties covering deep.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else is shadowing underneath the receiver and it makes

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Speaker 1: it tougher throws. And so once they stopped the run

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Speaker 1: and they kind of got away from the play action

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Speaker 1: pass a little bit, it made them one dimensional. And

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Speaker 1: credit to the Giants front seven for doing that, and

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Speaker 1: credit to those dbs as we were talking JB. They

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Speaker 1: were they were sticking to those receivers. It wasn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of space. And when they did give space, we

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Speaker 1: saw Cooper Cup catch that pass and you know, take

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Speaker 1: it to the house. So the Giants defense needs more credit.

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Speaker 1: They played really well. And as DeMarco has said during

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Speaker 1: the broadcast, when you're a fourteen point underdog or a

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Speaker 1: double digit underdog, you're gonna come out and play with

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Speaker 1: a little pizzas, a little fire, like your hair is

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Speaker 1: on fire. So that's what we saw. The Rams did

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Speaker 1: so're in a deep pensively, Sometimes you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: win games anyway. You're gonna have to win the ugly game.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to show that you can win the

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Speaker 1: game that's not the prettiest, and the Rams did that,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, U g l I. You ain't got an alibi.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to win ugly. I agree with Maurice.

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Speaker 1: I think New York's defense is better than we gave

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Speaker 1: they're not immune to the turnover. At Malaish, Gerald Everett

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Speaker 1: can't find the rhythm. So that's something you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to learn um overcoming adversity in game, how to get

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Speaker 1: But just like we said, win an ugly seventeen points,

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Speaker 1: But the thing that sticks out to me that we

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Speaker 1: to work through. In twenty twenty, Tarina Albisa sinct Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: beat San Francisco at Levi's. And that's my partying thought.

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Speaker 1: On Week four, right like where would you rather be?

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Speaker 1: it wasn't an oil painting for Sean mcvah and Jerry

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Speaker 1: Goff and the Rams, but they never trailed their three

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Speaker 1: on offense, defense and special teams at the same time yet.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great place to be at the

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Speaker 1: quarter poll Boom JP said it best. We're gonna move

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Speaker 1: on Washington. They made some news yesterday benching their second

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Speaker 1: year quarterback, Queen Haskins for Kyle Allen. Is anyone surprised

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Speaker 1: NFL and total QBR twenty seventh in completion, started eleven

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Speaker 1: Allen did play under Ron Rivera at Carolina. Your thoughts tomorrow, Well,

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Speaker 1: let me let me jump in before Maurice does, because

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Speaker 1: I've already seen what you wrote on Twitter. Um, this

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Speaker 1: to me no surprise. Um, he wasn't very good this year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they weren't very good with him. I think the one

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Speaker 1: that would have gotten anybody the hook, any young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The hook is versus Baltimore. You're you're in scoring territory.

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Speaker 1: I've been through this. I wanted Tony Banks to be

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Speaker 1: But it was the same mistakes over and over again.

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Speaker 1: think four games wasn't up. I think the offense was

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Speaker 1: very limited. I think if you're Ron Rivera, you didn't

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna lose the rest of your team if

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Speaker 1: what it is, Um, I think Kyle Allen is more mobile.

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Speaker 1: this guy, I can give you a spark, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was the right time to make a move.

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Speaker 1: So obviously you know what I said on Twitter, right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: My thing on Twitter was, um, how can you evaluate

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line has been passed mate, Like you said

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Speaker 1: in that Baltimore Ravens game. Yeah, you're right, but there's

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Speaker 1: also other times where that line, which is letting guys

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Speaker 1: evaluate a young quarterback after eleven games? Now, this is

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Speaker 1: my problem. Daniel Jones is by far worse than him,

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Speaker 1: is this, Yes, you didn't inherit or yes you didn't

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Speaker 1: give him, because we've already seen him play eight games

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Speaker 1: And you have to give these young quarterbacks time. Now

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Speaker 1: you'll never know. And now because you cut him after

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Speaker 1: You cannot do that. So wherever happens from here in DeMarco,

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Speaker 1: you know this, as we all know. Once you cut

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Speaker 1: cannot put him back in. It's done. So he will

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Speaker 1: trade him and he's gonna have to start his career over.

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Speaker 1: But then, if Kyle Allen's not the guy, or Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith isn't the guy, who's you know again, I'm still

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Speaker 1: concerned about his legs. Even though the doctors cleared him,

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Speaker 1: I'm still concerned about his leg If they're not the guy.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, Ron Rivera do. You have five years to

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Speaker 1: go find a quarterback in the draft or a free

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Speaker 1: with all that being said, I hope that Kyle Allen's successful,

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Speaker 1: but the number in the stats say he's gonna be,

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Speaker 1: the division in the NFL that got a preseason this year? Zero, none,

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Speaker 1: you what, Washington is a half a game out of

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Speaker 1: continue to step up and make plays. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go rapid fire. Next, we roll through a few different

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Speaker 1: topics leading into this game against Washington, and let's start

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Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh going back to face one of the

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Speaker 1: franchises that helped raise him as an NFL coach. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, big deal or no deal? As he

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Speaker 1: goes back to the Beltway? Big deal? Big deal? Big deal?

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Speaker 1: Why he hasn't beating him? Well, yeah, that big deal,

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Speaker 1: a big deal. And you're and you're going back to DC.

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Speaker 1: That's the other part. You have a lot of friends there.

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Speaker 1: You have fau family and friends or whatever it may

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Speaker 1: be there coming and talk to him. And on his

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Speaker 1: phone he made significant amount of them. Aren't there anymore?

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Speaker 1: He's like, I mean, you can stay coach coming back.

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Speaker 1: This was you know, an offensive guy that left, you know,

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Speaker 1: so there will be no red carpet for him. There's

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Speaker 1: no billboards welcome back. Sean McVay going back to Marco.

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Speaker 1: Remember remember this, They let him out of the building

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Speaker 1: and then the Rams had all this success. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Washington football team is like, why don't we let

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Speaker 1: you go? We said, let Bruton go, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that going on. And then I mean,

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Speaker 1: you him living that can community, you got friends there,

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Speaker 1: they it's gonna be a big deal. But for him,

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Speaker 1: it's just I'm going back to a place so I

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Speaker 1: used to work. You know. It's just like going back,

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Speaker 1: like you going back to Westwood. It's cool. That's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. When I sit back in, that's a deal

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Speaker 1: the carpet. If they don't, we got a problem. Dan.

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Speaker 1: There's another here's another big deal serena word out of

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Speaker 1: Washington football team practice today. Chase Young is back in uniform.

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Speaker 1: Should be good to go arm the edge against Andrew Whitworth,

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Speaker 1: who has not allowed a QB hit through four games.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that matchup and what it means for

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Speaker 1: the Rams chances of success. Yeah, I mean, JB. I

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Speaker 1: mean you probably know this right, Like that was that

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Speaker 1: was the big significant person we were looking for in

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Speaker 1: the as far as like who's practicing and who's not.

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Speaker 1: Chase Young is such a significant playmaker when it comes

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Speaker 1: to that D line. So having him back, I think

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Speaker 1: the old line really needs to step up their game

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Speaker 1: a little bit, especially from what we saw protecting Jared

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Speaker 1: against the Giants de far Yeah. You know what I

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Speaker 1: think is every bit is good at as Bosa was

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Speaker 1: a couple two seasons ago good. Yeah, and every bit

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Speaker 1: as good as Alden Smith was a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago when he was in San Francisco. The guy as

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Speaker 1: a monster. And this is this is terrible news. Number one,

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Speaker 1: I mean number one, I mean, I think Havenstein is

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Speaker 1: gonna have his hand school with Carrigan. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. And obvious passing downs. That guy

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Speaker 1: is good. He's he's got more sacks than Dexter, mainly

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Speaker 1: for the Washington football team. That's gonna be deadly. And

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Speaker 1: if you get Chase Young, you know two bookends. You

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Speaker 1: better get the ball out quick or you better run

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Speaker 1: the football effectively and keep them out of obvious passing

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Speaker 1: downs because they will get home. So yeah, that's just

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Speaker 1: that's about the worst news I've ever heard, or at

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Speaker 1: least this morning. Yeah, that's a difference. That's a difference

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Speaker 1: for me. Is they got to Wentz eight times he

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Speaker 1: holds on the football. They got to Kyler he holds

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Speaker 1: on the football than Baker Mayfield. He's not exactly a

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Speaker 1: quick trigger either. Said Jerry Goff. I think would be

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Speaker 1: wilster to not be in the adition that those quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: have been in against this Washington defense. Get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're doing fantasy picks to close things out. Um,

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Speaker 1: before we get to everyone's pick before week five, let's recap. JB.

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Speaker 1: You pick the Rams defense last week five sacks, one interception,

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Speaker 1: nine points allowed. Yep, show him. I had Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: with five receptions, sixty nine yards and a touchdown. All right, Um, defart,

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Speaker 1: who do you got for this week's fantasy kick? Uh?

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Speaker 1: This is hard and Maury you were or are? You?

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Speaker 1: Guys are all fantasy people, so help me out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean I want to see the run game, but no,

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Speaker 1: Washington's tough, especially at home. Um. I want to say

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff being efficient getting the ball out, but maybe

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Speaker 1: that's through more of a running game situation. But you're

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Speaker 1: gonna split carries there, so I might go with the

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Speaker 1: Rams defense. Um. I think this could be another field

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Speaker 1: goal game. I think Kyle Allen is you know, I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be a replacement for what they had.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be a lot better

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Speaker 1: than what they were, So I think the Rams have

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Speaker 1: found something on the outside, especially if Tera Lewis can

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Speaker 1: come back and add a little bit more. Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: was kind of quiet last week, so you know how

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Speaker 1: Aaron does the next week when he was going before,

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Speaker 1: You know, he just ruins things. So I want to

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Speaker 1: take the Rams defense or golf? Who do you think

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Speaker 1: I should take defense? I'll take defense. Then I'll take

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Speaker 1: the Rams defense for me. It's it's funny because Robert

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Speaker 1: Woods like it's like every other game for him, So

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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be his game where he

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Speaker 1: shows up. So I'm gonna take Robert Woods. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are down because I mean, again, the Washington

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Speaker 1: football team of defense, they do a really good job,

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Speaker 1: but Robert Woods is always there when you need him,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna be a Robert Woods

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Speaker 1: or a Ka Bobby Trees type of game going Tyler Higbee,

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Speaker 1: Washington had surrendered five touchdowns to tight ends through four games.

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Speaker 1: Goddard went for a hundred against him. I think Tyler Higby,

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Speaker 1: who has been quiet since the hat trick at Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: gets right in the Fantasy column this week. I can

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Speaker 1: tell by your face when you're hold mountain to some cars.

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Speaker 1: See you all just come out with the stat at

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Speaker 1: the end. See I know your face now I can't

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Speaker 1: call him on Twitter. That's right. He gives all of

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Speaker 1: his emotions away. I kind of wanted to go with

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Speaker 1: a tight End, but I'm actually going with Hendo. I'm

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Speaker 1: going with Darrell Henderson. I looked it up. Washington's defense

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Speaker 1: is allowing an average of one hundred and fifty four

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Speaker 1: rushing yards in the past three weeks, so I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams need to bounce back. I see Hendo having

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Speaker 1: a game in one hundred and fourteen against the Bills

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Speaker 1: twenty two against the Giants, so I'm kind of like,

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Speaker 1: let's see a comeback game for him now that he's

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Speaker 1: got an extra piece of support with cam Akers coming back.

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Speaker 1: But that's it. That's a rap for our Week five

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Speaker 1: edition between the Horns Defar Maurice Jones, Drew J. Blong.

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Speaker 1: I'm Serena Morales ten am Pacific time on Sunday for

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Speaker 1: the Rams at the Washington Football Team. See you next

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Speaker 1: week more The Brother to m