WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Break the Market 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.560 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:14.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:19.480 Loude broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.799 Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor sat De, Montrey Moore, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.960 and Newi Scrugs. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:32.960 It is the Players Loud. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.840 I am not Newie Scruggs, and I'll say this again, 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.840 I am the handsomer. 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.240 Jesse Hollysoon Force. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.760 Newie Scrugs plays a lot of pretend to you by aristocrat. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.800 I got Barry Charge, Damonte Moore, I'm gonna call you, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:51.360 Anthony Dixon. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:59.080 I want to Anthony do. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.880 Right and on the phone. We have Newly Scrugs and 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.920 I'm gonna get right into it. Fellas man. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:12.680 As of about fifteen minutes ago, bombshell news has come down. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.840 We thought there was gonna be a chill and easy Friday. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.520 We was gonna come here do what we do. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.160 He's having a hell up out of here about it 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.480 during the weekend. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:24.960 And they got the day off out there too as well. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.800 So yeah, until Michael Parson said, old contrail on to me, 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.560 I got a little something for y'all. We've known the 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.840 back and forth that they've been having Michael with the 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.039 whole day, and then he dropped the big He dropped 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.959 this is the big joke of today. He dropped the 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:42.679 joke of the day. And Michael Parson has formerly requested 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.840 a trade from the Dallas Cowboys. He has come to 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.480 his wits end with this hold out. He has come 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.160 to his wits end with the shots being taken at him. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.320 He has come to his wits end without the ownership 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.919 contacting his agent, and he said, I'm out, I'm done, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:02.160 I'm finished. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.440 I want to be traded. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.280 We got Newie Scruggs boots on the ground in Oxnarth, California. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.959 We're gonna go to Newie and Newie. Give me your thoughts. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.800 What are you hearing? Did you see this coming? Did 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:13.920 you foresee this happening? 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.280 This is some big news coming from franchise player. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.440 It's big news. But it's not the first time that 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.480 you've seen a player frustrated with negotiations with Jerry Jones. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.240 The first Dallas Cowboys training camp I ever covered nineteen 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.120 ninety three and Mitt Smith was not there. Andmm Smith 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:31.840 that led the league in rushing and they won the 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.480 Super Bowl at Jerry Jones adamant about how much he 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:35.800 wanted to pay him, and he was trying to pay 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.480 him under what he paid Jerry Jones. And it was 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.640 the first two games what happened, Emitt got signed. This 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.239 is a part of how Jerry does business. Ceed laand 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.519 went through it last year. Dak Prescott went through it. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.320 Zach Martin held. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.680 Out just two years ago. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:50.799 He was trying to make sure. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.360 He got his money straight. And at the end of 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.760 the day, the great players Jerry wants, they all signed. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.720 All of them signed. I'm here in Los Angeles Kobe 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.079 Bryant and told Jerry Buss, then trade me. Jerry Buss 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.320 is like, no, I'm not trading. He finished his career 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.840 with the Lakers. He won two more championships after the trade. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.840 Lamar Jackson he wanted to out of Baltimore. They resigned him. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.919 He won an MVP. It's now just Micah's turn here 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.560 in the blender. Guys, it's there, Okay, it's gonna happen 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.359 at some point in time. He's under contract, so they 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.880 don't have to pay him. They're not going to get 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.359 rid of him. This is his move. It's going to 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.239 get a lot of publicity. We're gonna talk about it, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.959 but at the end of the day, Jerry Jones is 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.800 gonna give Micah's money and he'll be a cowboy and 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.560 then they'll hug and everything else and be just fine. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:35.880 Yeah. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.040 Now he's one hundred percent correct on this one. Like 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.400 you said, you know, Jerry hasn't lost a superstar via 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.040 free agency. Let him walk in who knows how long, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.400 And this is this situation is not going to change 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.320 when it comes to Michael Parsons. He's done everything correct 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.080 in my opinion as far as this whole negotiation thing 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.720 is concerned. I mean, he's there throughout all OTA's mini camp. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.040 He showed up the camp. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.040 He's been that consummate leader you know for this team, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.280 whether it's on the field or off the field, doesn't 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.000 get in trouble at any of that stuff. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.000 And he's done everything correct. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.000 Since he stepped into the the Dallas Cowboys organization. I mean, 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.560 this is a oka ahead. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.800 Yeah, what's going on, knew he just hit it on that. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.159 This is a pattern, this is the blueprint. This is 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:19.560 under the. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.680 Cowboys have done for a long time. But if you've noticed, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.880 they've taken a little bit more of a frustrating approach 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.240 this time around when it comes to Micah. Could this 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.240 be I'm just I'm this is a Reckie speccy. I'm 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.760 just throwing it out there. Could this be the moment 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.640 in time where Jerry goes enough? The Ages got me 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.560 figured out. They know if they just waited out that 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.800 we're gonna bend over and we're gonna pay them and 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.359 give them all the things that they want, all the years, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.640 all the no trade clauses, all of the guarantees that 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:52.400 they want. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.240 Could this possibly be the moment where Stephen and Jerry go. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:04:59.440 Man? 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.760 If they do that, it would probably be, you know, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.600 one of the worst decisions and organization has made in 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.120 NFL history. I mean, I'm this this. If they say 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.480 is enough, I don't want to. I don't want to, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.800 you know, deal with this anymore. We're gonna make him, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.960 you know, fulfill the whole contract. This is you're talking 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.800 about the best player in your organization, on your team, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.920 the best one of the top three defensive players, maybe 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.120 the best depending on who you're talking to in the 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.320 National Football League. This is a game changer. This is 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.400 not a guy that just puts up sack numbers. This 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.240 is a guy that can change the fortunes of your franchise. 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.520 And so for you to sit there and say, you 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.320 know what this is, this is it. I'm done. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.240 I don't have enough. I paid this guy, paid this guy, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.520 paid this guy, you know, and start with Micah as 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.000 the guy that you know you're gonna chock your hands with. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:45.800 I feel like that would be one of the worst 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:46.680 decisions ever made. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.240 I get it because I might be a little missing informed. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.039 But when you said wipe your hands with it, from 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.760 my understanding, you're saying, maybe the deal is taken so 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.000 long because Jerry is about to finally do the whole 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.800 give him every thing that he wants to put the opposite, Okay, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.920 I just want to make sure because okay, okay, yeah, no, no. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.400 Giving you everything you want like I've done before the. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.080 Past, to all your Okay, Well, then in that case, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.640 then you're right. I My sentiments are the same with you, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.120 because I do feel like you're doing a disservice for 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.480 it to be the one person that has done everything statistically, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.800 they're off the field, he's like he's a voice. And 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.800 then for him not to be a quarterback and have 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.400 command such a market the way that he does with 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.400 his media, being a president in the community and being 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.760 that person like this is the time for you to say, hey, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.839 do what You're not gonna have buyers remorse like the 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.000 Cleveland Browns had with Deshaun Watson or the narrative that's 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.359 being painted right now that you have buyer's remarks with 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.719 Trayvon Dick. If there's anybody that has proven that they're 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.800 the guy right now, this will be the time for 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.080 you to say, hey, let me go ahead and do 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.640 what Jerry does in a big fashion. And like I said, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.080 it's above my pray grade, but somebody that actually deserves it. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.200 The only other person I could think of in NFL 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.920 history like this, And just maybe I'm biased and doing 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.279 my recent tenure, but I want to say Aaron Donald 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.760 is the only other person that is deserving as far 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.040 as putting up the stats off the field and doing 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.760 all those things. So yes, this is the time to 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.200 break the market by not maybe giving him the bank, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.080 but making do something that's gonna make him feel special 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.080 and that he earned it. Because that dog is hungry, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.680 he's ready to get there, and now that he's displaying 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.480 his frustration, we're seeing that I'm not mad at him 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.440 for doing that, because he's been playing chess and not 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.120 checkers this whole time. But this last move, it was 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.840 a little bit of a checker's move. So let's hope 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.000 that Jerry has a checker's reaction. So it's like this happened. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.960 This happened, so we could go ahead and be happy 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.840 about it. But like Nui said, everybody gets paid and 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.000 everybody is always happy at the end of the deal. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.680 We've seen it with De Bryan and the rest of 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:49.880 the thing. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.320 All right, let me throw this in here, guys, let 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:57.720 me throw this something Steven Jones has said for you 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:02.040 many many years now, deadlines. Think about that deal. When 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.920 did he get done? Right before they play the first 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.000 game at the end of the day. They know as 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.000 you get closer towards the season, Michael wants to play. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.720 He's a guy that wants to play, and he's gonna 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.640 This is when you can put the squeeze and get 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.920 all this stuff done. They know what they're doing. The 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.600 franchise is the most valuable in the world. They gonna 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.120 get it done. This is Michael's party's frustration. He could 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.120 be mad and Jerry can sit up here all day 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.880 long and say what they've been saying. Hey man, he 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:31.920 had a contract this year for like twenty four million 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.880 dollars and gotta go nowhere. You got to play here. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.200 And if you can't just sit out, because it's not 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.080 like you can sit out and get in the years 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.360 are cured. You know, he's not gonna go out and 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:42.880 miss out on this money. He doesn't want to lose 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.920 a year and not put a statistics. They're playing this game. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.080 At the end of the day, it's just gonna get done. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.760 And Mugga Letta will get a great deal because you 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.000 know what all these agents do, and Moga Letter is 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.960 a great negotiators. Not one age in the NFL right now. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.800 It's just gonna have a guy we're talking about is 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.320 good stuff. Jerry like to everybody talk about the Cowboys. YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.160 It's gonna get done. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.760 That's my people, real quick. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.360 Why but why wait? 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.040 Why put your your franchise at risk for having a 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.600 slow start by having one of your best players, your gain, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.360 your game changer, not be ready when the season starts. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.199 Why wait till the last minute. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.800 To get the deal with the new for the new 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.040 defensive coordinator right with a new defensive court. I don't know, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:26.720 but you know they did it last year with CDL. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.080 This is just how they do it. Man, It's just 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.760 I'm with you, but this is just how they do business. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.160 And once again, when you got the most valuable franchise 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.120 in the world, clearly you know what you're doing because 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.120 you're just making money. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.160 Left over, right, And yeah, that's true. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.400 Sometimes good they doing a Netflix special on you either, right. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.839 And I mean, and we've talked about everybody that has 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.719 been in the blender like new he likes to say, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.320 but that doesn't mean it's the right way to go 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.480 about doing business. And at some point in time, you know, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.480 like everybody in the in the locker room is supposed 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.120 to be treated the same, but everybody does not get 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:55.880 the same treatment. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:57.160 Okay, And. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.000 There was something said a just read it just a 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.600 second ago where it said that Stephen Jones said, Mike 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.000 and needs to act like he wants to be paid. Well, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:10.360 what has he done doctor the years playing here, being 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:14.319 at everything from OTA's being at the offseason conditioning program, 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.439 actually holding in a camp as well, you know what 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.319 I mean. So when you look at it, like at 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.920 some point in time, you have to do something a 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.520 little bit different from time to time. Everybody does not 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.280 need to be negotiated the same way. And like we 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.040 noticed Trellis, we fall in love with this game as 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.000 children at an early age. There's no business involved in 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.920 it at all. The Joneses are what they're businessmen by trade. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.680 We're football players, we're athletes by trade. We want to 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.439 get back to what's normal to us. We want to 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.360 be in a comfortable position. Like Church said, why would 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.880 you have this man who is literally at camp but 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:49.880 not participating. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.520 And typically what happens. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.520 When that guy comes back from a holdouts what some 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.400 type of soft tissue type of injury. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.280 Okay, so now what was going on? We're looking at 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.000 the second week. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.600 Of okay, and he's not participated, he's not in these drills. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.760 He's actually not getting getting to tend a chance to play. 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.720 So at this point Michaeh has to also protect his 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.520 best interests as well, and uh and make sure that 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.000 he's really ready to go when that when when, and 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.960 hopefully when that contract is done. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:21.079 And ready to go, you go something all right, Fellas, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.680 I gotta head over here. I'm trying to talk to somebody, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.160 right now over here, knock, start to see where I 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.480 can get done for somebody, get back. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:35.440 To work, but not to be the dead. We all 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.600 agree with it, and I know I'm about to get 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.959 killed by the fans. Be gentle. Everybody that I'm talking 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.959 to one is the player's lounge. We all have a 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:48.199 player's perspective. So yes, we all agree Michael should be 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.000 paid and if there's anybody that should be paid, it 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.439 should be done right now. But also the point of 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.880 players lounge is to give you that other side of it, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.320 that inside school and somebody has the place devil advocate. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.480 And so if I'm the if I'm owning the team, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.240 if I want it to be a GM, like, I'm 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.640 gonna be real with you, I'm gonna have buyers remorse too, 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.800 especially all the guys that I pay. When you think 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.760 of deals like a Ezekiel Elliott deal, when you think 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.680 of a deal like a Trayvon Diggs deal that's going on, like, yeah, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.120 I'm gonna sit there and say, man, hey, did I 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.760 really maximize that deal? Did you deserve that? But in 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.280 the same bread basket, you have guys like Zach Martin, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.520 Tyron Smith, Daz Bryant that earned their contracts and stuff 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.000 like that. So from a business perspective, we know the 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.959 shield is bigger than anything. The shield is always gonna win. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.040 And just like some organizations, I tell you right now, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.320 one they might get mad about it, but I bet 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.640 you the Browns organization is mad about all the money 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.840 that they spend on DeShawn and sitting there doing that. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.680 So when you have situations like that, and overall, speaking 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.640 in the long term of things, people messing up contracts, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.000 it's like, I don't want to do that. But like 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.760 I said, with that being said, anybody that's proven that 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.200 he's done it, it deserves to be Micah. But I 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.160 understand this is a business. Let's not forget that. Like 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.880 we're paying, we're playing a child's game for a king's ransom. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.880 You think that I'm not about to go invest up 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.679 make somebody one hundred million dollar type guy a two 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.280 hundred million dollar type guy, or maybe potentially even we 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.480 know Jerry, when he loves his guys, he loves setting 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.920 the market, he might even give him potential ownership in that. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.120 Mike is a smart guy, Like he's gonna sit there 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.200 and say let me do something. He ain't gonna give him. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:33.240 But I did but touch Jones, But no way with 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.760 him being who he is in the media market, you 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.680 don't think Jerry's gonna sit there and say, hey, I 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.000 own the NFL network, let me give your own TV 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.960 show or some backdoor deal. There's some land, there's something 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.120 like he's going to make it special, and so it's 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.800 just about, hey, how can you do it? And you know, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.480 we all know mister Jones when he's getting ready to 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.840 get right there, he has two or three people saying 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.000 slow down, don't do this, and do that. So my 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.600 question is who's pulling the rings? 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.600 I think on the business side of things, we've come 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.959 such long way, right like when you talk about the 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.360 media part of it, right like Mike is the president 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.360 of bleacher Report. You know what I'm saying, He's the 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:15.520 president of that sector of bleacher Report. It's it's not 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.120 so singular focused where one people one person, or small 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.240 where people control those type of things. Mike is such 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.640 a big name that he's going to be have options 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.840 to do anything with everything. And because he was associated 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.000 with the Star, not not that he has to get 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.920 it from the Star or the people that own the Star. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:40.200 Because of his his greatness, and it being in this uniform. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.640 The phone calls happen, man, the emails get returned, so 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.240 those type of things. It is he trust me. He's 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.360 not at Bleacher Parot by accident. Okay, Bleacher Report says, 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.840 you're tied to that franchise. We're gonna give you the 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:56.040 bag to do that, and forever, forever, forever, we'll keep 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.360 giving you the back. So I mean the business part 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.080 of it, I think a lot of people know. And 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.360 here's also where your representation comes in. We're talking about 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.600 now the Battle of the Forbes, right, We're talking about 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.320 the Forest Battle. We're talking about Jerry Jones and the 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.840 Cowboys being the number one franchise in Forbes evaluation. And 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.800 we're talking about now David malu Getta being the number 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:16.640 one agent and all the. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.480 Sports already a million over and negotiating contracts this year. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.720 So David hasn't figured out like he hasn't figured out, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.200 and he's going to have a plan set up for 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.240 Micah that's going to take whatever he makes now and 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.240 make him a lot of money for a lot of years. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.960 So it's just it's it's we've come to a different 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.680 place now where you don't need the team to set 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.360 you up for greatness. Mike is a big enough entity 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.880 on his own that he's going to get all the 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.400 brand deals that he wants and he needs. And he 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.920 is a person who doesn't come with the checkered pass 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.120 because a lot of times, you know, you don't you 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.680 don't get you don't get the green dollars from the 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.360 white people when you got a checker pass right Scared 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.640 they don't want everything. They don't want to they got it. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.680 They're scared to deal with you or what you may bring. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.160 They're not bringing the back to you fact, you know 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.640 what I'm saying. And Micah doesn't. Michael while he has 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.960 this thing that he says in the media, that's the media, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.720 that's words, he doesn't have anything on his ledger that 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.120 says this is a guy who we can't give one 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.080 hundred million dollars you know, media distribution deal to You. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:18.560 Know what I'm saying. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.640 He's checked every box that you can think of when 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.840 it comes to that. Like when I think of players 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.560 like Michaeh, I can't help but think of Dion when 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.440 he was playing if that makes sense, Like to have 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.560 that magnitude of effect on the media market, go out 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.200 there put the results down there. But the difference between 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.880 him and the Deon Sanders effect, he has a certain 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.040 humbleness about him like that. He's been showing like, hey, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:43.960 I'm the guy. I want to be here. He's saying 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.120 all the right answers. And so for him to be 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.960 in that that that position right now, he's played everything right. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.800 I believe that, you know, and part of negotiations with 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.640 him having when the top agents was for that was 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:57.920 all in negotiation tactic for. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.080 Him to hold in to begin with. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.320 You know, I definitely think that they was probably trying 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.520 to see how much leverage they had up front, how 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.920 soon it could actually get done with him actually being 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.480 in the presence. Okay, hey, go out there, had those conversations. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.359 You know what I'm saying, talk, see where Jerry coming from. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.399 Report back to me, let me know what's cracking, and 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:17.320 everything else like that. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:18.240 But now that we're. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.760 At this place here, okay, and it ain't no budget, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.480 ain't nothing else happening. You know, I keep running my mouth, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.320 I'm saying all the right stuff while I'm running it, though, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.360 but it's no progress being made. So you know, I'm 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.760 like Michaeh, like how much longer do I need that 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.800 It's not even about me saying I want to be 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.840 off the team. How much longer do I have to 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.960 keep sitting here watching and not being able to participate 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.600 and trying to be a part of this team? 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:47.240 You know what I mean? 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.639 So I feel where he's coming from. I understand, but 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.120 I definitely think that him going to camp was part 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.640 of their negotiation tactics as well. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.920 All right, let's take our first break and we'll get 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.679 back to this conversation. If you're just hearing this, Michael 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.360 Parsons has formerly requested the trade from the Dallas Cowboys. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.720 This is the player's lows. We'll continue this discussion on 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:08.119 the other. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:09.720 Side of this break. 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