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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's

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Speaker 1: Loude broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor sat De, Montrey Moore,

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Speaker 1: and Newi Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: It is the Players Loud.

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Speaker 3: I am not Newie Scruggs, and I'll say this again,

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Speaker 3: I am the handsomer.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Hollysoon Force.

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Speaker 3: Newie Scrugs plays a lot of pretend to you by aristocrat.

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Speaker 3: I got Barry Charge, Damonte Moore, I'm gonna call you,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Dixon.

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Speaker 4: I want to Anthony do.

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Speaker 2: Right and on the phone. We have Newly Scrugs and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get right into it. Fellas man.

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Speaker 3: As of about fifteen minutes ago, bombshell news has come down.

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Speaker 3: We thought there was gonna be a chill and easy Friday.

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Speaker 3: We was gonna come here do what we do.

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Speaker 2: He's having a hell up out of here about it

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Speaker 2: during the weekend.

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Speaker 5: And they got the day off out there too as well.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, until Michael Parson said, old contrail on to me,

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Speaker 3: I got a little something for y'all. We've known the

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Speaker 3: back and forth that they've been having Michael with the

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Speaker 3: whole day, and then he dropped the big He dropped

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Speaker 3: this is the big joke of today. He dropped the

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Speaker 3: joke of the day. And Michael Parson has formerly requested

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Speaker 3: a trade from the Dallas Cowboys. He has come to

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Speaker 3: his wits end with this hold out. He has come

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Speaker 3: to his wits end with the shots being taken at him.

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Speaker 3: He has come to his wits end without the ownership

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Speaker 3: contacting his agent, and he said, I'm out, I'm done,

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Speaker 3: I'm finished.

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Speaker 2: I want to be traded.

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Speaker 3: We got Newie Scruggs boots on the ground in Oxnarth, California.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Newie and Newie. Give me your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing? Did you see this coming? Did

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Speaker 3: you foresee this happening?

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Speaker 2: This is some big news coming from franchise player.

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Speaker 6: It's big news. But it's not the first time that

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Speaker 6: you've seen a player frustrated with negotiations with Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 6: The first Dallas Cowboys training camp I ever covered nineteen

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Speaker 6: ninety three and Mitt Smith was not there. Andmm Smith

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Speaker 6: that led the league in rushing and they won the

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl at Jerry Jones adamant about how much he

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Speaker 6: wanted to pay him, and he was trying to pay

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Speaker 6: him under what he paid Jerry Jones. And it was

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Speaker 6: the first two games what happened, Emitt got signed. This

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Speaker 6: is a part of how Jerry does business. Ceed laand

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Speaker 6: went through it last year. Dak Prescott went through it.

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Speaker 6: Zach Martin held.

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Speaker 2: Out just two years ago.

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Speaker 4: He was trying to make sure.

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Speaker 6: He got his money straight. And at the end of

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Speaker 6: the day, the great players Jerry wants, they all signed.

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Speaker 6: All of them signed. I'm here in Los Angeles Kobe

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Speaker 6: Bryant and told Jerry Buss, then trade me. Jerry Buss

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Speaker 6: is like, no, I'm not trading. He finished his career

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Speaker 6: with the Lakers. He won two more championships after the trade.

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson he wanted to out of Baltimore. They resigned him.

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Speaker 6: He won an MVP. It's now just Micah's turn here

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Speaker 6: in the blender. Guys, it's there, Okay, it's gonna happen

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Speaker 6: at some point in time. He's under contract, so they

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Speaker 6: don't have to pay him. They're not going to get

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Speaker 6: rid of him. This is his move. It's going to

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Speaker 6: get a lot of publicity. We're gonna talk about it,

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Speaker 6: but at the end of the day, Jerry Jones is

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Speaker 6: gonna give Micah's money and he'll be a cowboy and

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Speaker 6: then they'll hug and everything else and be just fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now he's one hundred percent correct on this one. Like

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Speaker 7: you said, you know, Jerry hasn't lost a superstar via

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Speaker 7: free agency. Let him walk in who knows how long,

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Speaker 7: And this is this situation is not going to change

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Speaker 7: when it comes to Michael Parsons. He's done everything correct

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Speaker 7: in my opinion as far as this whole negotiation thing

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Speaker 7: is concerned. I mean, he's there throughout all OTA's mini camp.

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Speaker 4: He showed up the camp.

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Speaker 7: He's been that consummate leader you know for this team,

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Speaker 7: whether it's on the field or off the field, doesn't

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Speaker 2: And he's done everything correct.

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Speaker 7: Since he stepped into the the Dallas Cowboys organization. I mean,

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Speaker 7: this is a oka ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on, knew he just hit it on that.

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Speaker 2: This is a pattern, this is the blueprint. This is

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Speaker 3: Cowboys have done for a long time. But if you've noticed,

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Speaker 3: they've taken a little bit more of a frustrating approach

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Speaker 3: this time around when it comes to Micah. Could this

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Speaker 3: be I'm just I'm this is a Reckie speccy. I'm

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Speaker 3: just throwing it out there. Could this be the moment

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Speaker 3: in time where Jerry goes enough? The Ages got me

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Speaker 3: figured out. They know if they just waited out that

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Speaker 3: we're gonna bend over and we're gonna pay them and

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Speaker 3: give them all the things that they want, all the years,

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Speaker 3: all the no trade clauses, all of the guarantees that

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Speaker 2: Could this possibly be the moment where Stephen and Jerry go.

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 7: If they do that, it would probably be, you know,

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Speaker 7: one of the worst decisions and organization has made in

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Speaker 7: NFL history. I mean, I'm this this. If they say

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Speaker 7: is enough, I don't want to. I don't want to,

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Speaker 7: you know, deal with this anymore. We're gonna make him,

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Speaker 7: you know, fulfill the whole contract. This is you're talking

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Speaker 7: about the best player in your organization, on your team,

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Speaker 7: the best one of the top three defensive players, maybe

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Speaker 7: the best depending on who you're talking to in the

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Speaker 7: National Football League. This is a game changer. This is

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Speaker 7: not a guy that just puts up sack numbers. This

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Speaker 7: is a guy that can change the fortunes of your franchise.

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Speaker 4: And so for you to sit there and say, you

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Speaker 4: know what this is, this is it. I'm done.

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Speaker 7: I don't have enough. I paid this guy, paid this guy,

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Speaker 7: paid this guy, you know, and start with Micah as

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Speaker 7: the guy that you know you're gonna chock your hands with.

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Speaker 7: I feel like that would be one of the worst

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Speaker 4: I get it because I might be a little missing informed.

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Speaker 4: But when you said wipe your hands with it, from

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Speaker 4: my understanding, you're saying, maybe the deal is taken so

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Speaker 4: long because Jerry is about to finally do the whole

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Speaker 4: give him every thing that he wants to put the opposite, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure because okay, okay, yeah, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Giving you everything you want like I've done before the.

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Speaker 4: Past, to all your Okay, Well, then in that case,

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Speaker 4: then you're right. I My sentiments are the same with you,

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Speaker 4: because I do feel like you're doing a disservice for

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Speaker 4: it to be the one person that has done everything statistically,

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Speaker 4: they're off the field, he's like he's a voice. And

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Speaker 4: then for him not to be a quarterback and have

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Speaker 4: that person like this is the time for you to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: do what You're not gonna have buyers remorse like the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns had with Deshaun Watson or the narrative that's

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Speaker 4: being painted right now that you have buyer's remarks with

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Speaker 4: Trayvon Dick. If there's anybody that has proven that they're

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Speaker 4: the guy right now, this will be the time for

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Speaker 4: you to say, hey, let me go ahead and do

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Speaker 4: what Jerry does in a big fashion. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: it's above my pray grade, but somebody that actually deserves it.

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Speaker 4: The only other person I could think of in NFL

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Speaker 4: my recent tenure, but I want to say Aaron Donald

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Speaker 4: all those things. So yes, this is the time to

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Speaker 4: and that he earned it. Because that dog is hungry,

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Speaker 4: he's ready to get there, and now that he's displaying

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Speaker 4: his frustration, we're seeing that I'm not mad at him

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Speaker 4: for doing that, because he's been playing chess and not

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Speaker 4: checkers this whole time. But this last move, it was

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a checker's move. So let's hope

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Speaker 4: that Jerry has a checker's reaction. So it's like this happened.

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Speaker 4: This happened, so we could go ahead and be happy

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Speaker 4: about it. But like Nui said, everybody gets paid and

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Speaker 4: everybody is always happy at the end of the deal.

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Speaker 4: We've seen it with De Bryan and the rest of

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Speaker 6: All right, let me throw this in here, guys, let

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Speaker 6: me throw this something Steven Jones has said for you

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Speaker 6: many many years now, deadlines. Think about that deal. When

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Speaker 6: did he get done? Right before they play the first

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Speaker 6: game at the end of the day. They know as

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Speaker 6: you get closer towards the season, Michael wants to play.

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Speaker 6: He's a guy that wants to play, and he's gonna

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Speaker 6: This is when you can put the squeeze and get

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Speaker 6: all this stuff done. They know what they're doing. The

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Speaker 6: franchise is the most valuable in the world. They gonna

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Speaker 6: get it done. This is Michael's party's frustration. He could

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Speaker 6: long and say what they've been saying. Hey man, he

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Speaker 6: had a contract this year for like twenty four million

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Speaker 6: And if you can't just sit out, because it's not

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Speaker 6: like you can sit out and get in the years

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Speaker 6: are cured. You know, he's not gonna go out and

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Speaker 6: a year and not put a statistics. They're playing this game.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it's just gonna get done.

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Speaker 6: And Mugga Letta will get a great deal because you

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Speaker 6: know what all these agents do, and Moga Letter is

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Speaker 6: a great negotiators. Not one age in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 6: It's just gonna have a guy we're talking about is

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Speaker 6: good stuff. Jerry like to everybody talk about the Cowboys. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna get done.

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Speaker 2: That's my people, real quick.

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Speaker 4: Why but why wait?

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Speaker 7: Why put your your franchise at risk for having a

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Speaker 7: slow start by having one of your best players, your gain,

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Speaker 7: your game changer, not be ready when the season starts.

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Speaker 2: Why wait till the last minute.

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Speaker 6: To get the deal with the new for the new

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Speaker 6: but you know they did it last year with CDL.

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Speaker 6: This is just how they do it. Man, It's just

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Speaker 6: I'm with you, but this is just how they do business.

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Speaker 6: And once again, when you got the most valuable franchise

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Speaker 6: in the world, clearly you know what you're doing because

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Speaker 6: you're just making money.

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Speaker 3: Left over, right, And yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes good they doing a Netflix special on you either, right.

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Speaker 8: And I mean, and we've talked about everybody that has

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Speaker 8: but that doesn't mean it's the right way to go

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Speaker 8: about doing business. And at some point in time, you know,

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Speaker 8: like everybody in the in the locker room is supposed

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Speaker 8: to be treated the same, but everybody does not get

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Speaker 8: the same treatment.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And.

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Speaker 8: There was something said a just read it just a

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Speaker 8: and needs to act like he wants to be paid. Well,

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Speaker 3: they don't want everything. They don't want to they got it.

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's checked every box that you can think of when

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Speaker 8: I believe that, you know, and part of negotiations with

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Speaker 5: Him to hold in to begin with.

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Speaker 8: You know, I definitely think that they was probably trying

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Speaker 3: Campers will have a chance to learn technical skills and

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Speaker 3: lessons on teamwork. Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com slash camps

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Speaker 3: to learn more. At the Players Lounge, we pick up

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Speaker 3: the conversation that we had in the first segment. Michael

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Speaker 3: Parson has formally requested the trade for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: He had a long, long.

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Speaker 3: Message, and to summarize some of it, he said, I

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Speaker 3: am tired of going with the back and forth. I

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Speaker 3: negotiated in good faith. I thought I was having a

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Speaker 3: conversation on leadership. A conversation about contracts came about. I

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Speaker 3: thought we were just talking. The jones took that as

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Speaker 3: bible and said that was it. And he said, my

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Speaker 3: agent has tried over and over and over again to

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Speaker 3: get in contact with the Joneses to know avail that

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Speaker 3: they haven't been able.

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Speaker 2: To do anything.

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Speaker 3: He says, as of today, there has not been negotiations

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Speaker 3: with the Joneses and his agent, David malu Guetta. And

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Speaker 3: at this point he has said, and he being Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 3: I want out is would this be the biggest Would

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Speaker 3: this be the biggest trade I don't know, will this

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Speaker 3: be the biggest trade request that we've seen last ten

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Speaker 3: fifteen years when you think about in the National Football.

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Speaker 7: League, I mean, I don't even think anybody goes close

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Speaker 7: to this when you talk about it. I mean, even

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Speaker 7: though he got a racket brain a little bit to

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Speaker 7: think about it.

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Speaker 2: But man, we're talking about a guy that's a.

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Speaker 7: Perennial not pro bowler, but perennial All Pro player, like

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Speaker 7: like similar to like you said, if it was Aaron

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Speaker 7: Donald or something that was just like, nah, I need

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Speaker 7: a trade request like that. That's the type of impact

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Speaker 7: this guy as on this team. And so to me, man,

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Speaker 7: it would be wild to steal something that I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: send this to you, and to steal something that that

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Speaker 7: that Demontre said talking about playing Devil's advocate.

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Speaker 2: Is there is.

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Speaker 3: There any any any goodness that because you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: a king's ransom, right, Anthony, If you trade Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 3: you're going to get a king's ransom, right. I would

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Speaker 3: hope now you might be like Nico and them down

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Speaker 3: there with the Dallas Mavericks and not get what we

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Speaker 3: get for a star player. But this is just we're

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Speaker 3: having a conversation, right, We're having a conversation. This is

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Speaker 3: the lounge, Anthony. Could you see a scenario where if

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Speaker 3: you traded Michael Parsons you could get back a hall

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Speaker 3: that could bring you enough pieces to come back kind

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Speaker 3: of Almo like the Herschel Walker trade back.

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Speaker 4: In the day. I was about to say, give you.

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Speaker 2: Get this team over the eye.

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Speaker 8: I mean, respectfully, that's what you would want, you know

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying, But there's no guarantee in the production

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Speaker 8: that you're gonna get coming back in the building. You

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Speaker 8: already know what you might let go proving, and not

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Speaker 8: at the peak of his career.

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Speaker 2: Yet, twenty six years old, young.

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Speaker 8: He getting better, he learned the new past rush moves.

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Speaker 8: All right, He's not even as strong as he's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: He ain't even his grown man strength yet.

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Speaker 8: So when you look at it from that standpoint, like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you would hope that that ransom would give you that

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Speaker 8: and then some, but there's no guarantee to that. And

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Speaker 8: so you know, when I got what's proven in my hand,

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Speaker 8: I'm not too worried about what I don't know what's

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Speaker 8: in my other hand.

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Speaker 5: All righty know I got with the proof right here.

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Speaker 8: So with that, you know, nah, man, like as much

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Speaker 8: talk as we're doing about it, and I understand he

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Speaker 8: wants to trade, and I can't see them letting that happen.

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Speaker 5: I just can't see it.

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Speaker 4: It ain't gonna happen. It's really not like Jerry don't

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Speaker 4: let his players go. But like you said, for Devil's advocates,

513
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Speaker 4: so we're not like every other show, every other podcast.

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Speaker 4: So we know he wants to get paid. We know

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Speaker 4: he's the cleanest person in history that we're talking about,

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Speaker 4: at least in my opinion as far as checking all

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Speaker 4: the boxes, that deserves that bag. But nobody is above

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Speaker 4: the shield, and I repeat, nobody is above it. So

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Speaker 4: like if you trade him, you can be in a

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Speaker 4: situation where you be like Miami Dawks and they stack

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Speaker 4: up on all them first round picks and then all

522
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Speaker 4: of a sudden you get a long haul in. We've

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Speaker 4: seen it and damaka ensue that was the cornerstone for

524
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Speaker 4: the Lions, and all of a sudden he went down

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Speaker 4: there to Miami and the pick of his career and

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Speaker 4: still was like doing numbers if we're saying that. So

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Speaker 4: there are people that can get traded. You know, obviously

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Speaker 4: Michael's wade cleaner. We don't think it's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: But if you trade him, you don't think that an

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Speaker 4: organization that's stockpiled like the Browns or something that got

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Speaker 4: all these first round picks just sitting in their back pocket.

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Speaker 4: Here you go, that's fur first round pick. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: pay him. As a matter of fact, here, we'll take

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Speaker 4: this right here and give you that. They'll do that

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Speaker 4: for a perennial guy like you said, that's not even

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Speaker 4: in his peak. So if if the business people and

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Speaker 4: them Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and whoever else that the

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Speaker 4: powers may be decided to entertain this trade idea, you

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Speaker 4: will see one of those blockbuster deals where you're like,

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Speaker 4: there's no way a franchise let them go. Nobody ever

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Speaker 4: thought of. The Broncos will let go of von Miller

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Speaker 4: right and his and his prime like that they let

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Speaker 4: the colaborators with Khalil Mack. You go to. You think

544
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Speaker 4: about when DeMarcus where he wasn't in his prime, but

545
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Speaker 4: he was still giving you prime talent right there, and

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Speaker 4: we let him go and he went and got a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl right there. So the right one man's trash

548
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Speaker 4: is another man's treasure.

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Speaker 7: Like they used to say, these other organizations, they would

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Speaker 7: definitely you know Parson was over here. You know four

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Speaker 7: first round is whatever the case may be, they would

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Speaker 7: do that.

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Speaker 4: But my thing is.

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Speaker 7: When you with the cow when you at the Cowboys situation,

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Speaker 7: you got the quarterback, right, you got the quarterback that

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Speaker 7: that you want. You got the quarterback, You got the

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Speaker 7: receiver c lamb all right, you got you got the

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Speaker 7: corners on the back if they come in health, you

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Speaker 7: got the corners. You got the d lineman in Michael

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Speaker 7: Parsons the edge.

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Speaker 4: We just paid somebody those are.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that, man, No, don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to I don't want to go. You

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Speaker 7: got the cornerstone pieces. You got the cornerstone pieces already there.

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Speaker 7: Why give away that cornerstone piece for like you said,

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Speaker 7: some unproving this.

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Speaker 4: They're not. They're not. And we all know that Jerry

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Speaker 4: does it in the Everything he does is in a

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Speaker 4: big fashion sense. It's America's team. When it came time

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Speaker 4: to it, and people was like, old snap, that's about

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Speaker 4: to get traded. Oh, Zach Martin, a guy that is

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Speaker 4: arguably one of the best, and some people are best

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Speaker 4: Cowboys player to ever put on the star had to

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Speaker 4: wait and do that, and people were like, oh, Zach's

575
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Speaker 4: gonna go. People are gonna line up and do that.

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Speaker 4: And what did he do. He came out and gave

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Speaker 4: them iconic deals within their own respect. Now it's up

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Speaker 4: to the player if they decided to say, hey, I

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Speaker 4: want to be team friendly. You got guys like Yan

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Speaker 4: Smith and said he I just want to be here,

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Speaker 4: but I see what's gonna happen later down the line

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Speaker 4: and take those deals. And then you got other guys

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Speaker 4: that said, no, I'm changing the market. Zeke changed the market,

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Speaker 4: Dak changed the market. So right now, Michaeh has put

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Speaker 4: the ball in his court to say whatever I want

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Speaker 4: to do it. And so if he wants to change

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Speaker 4: the market in some form of fashion, Cherry's gonna figure

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Speaker 4: out how to do it. It's just about are we

589
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Speaker 4: gonna give him the dollar amount or are we gonna

590
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Speaker 4: do it this way? But somehow you're going to be

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Speaker 4: the guy. It's just about being the guy in the

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Speaker 4: right way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we all understand he's gonna get paid like that

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Speaker 7: wasn't the question The thing for me is, but when

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Speaker 7: you look at all those deals, the Zeke deal, the

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Speaker 7: Dak deal, all that good stuff, and they waited forever

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Speaker 7: to get the deals done. How those guys come back

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Speaker 7: and start the season. You look at Zeke, Yes, he

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Speaker 7: all said he was running in Cabo, saying that's how

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Speaker 7: he looked when he came back. Eventually it rolling, but

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Speaker 7: it took that much time for him to get rolling.

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Speaker 7: You look at that how the communication, how the points

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Speaker 7: was not as high as you know, we wanted to

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Speaker 7: see from the Cowboys coming out the gate. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I get it, you get the views and all that

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Speaker 7: good stuff.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to the Cowboys organization, it's just I mean,

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Speaker 7: why I would you do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's take our final break. Let's take our final break

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Speaker 2: when we come back.

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Speaker 3: I do want to ask you guys a question about

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Speaker 3: how does this look from the outside end. There's other

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Speaker 3: free agents that may be looking down the line and saying,

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Speaker 3: is Dallas a place that I want to go? Are

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Speaker 3: there are other players on this team that are like,

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Speaker 3: you know, you got guys like Tyler Smith who's coming

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Speaker 3: up with a contract. Is he look at it and saying, man,

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Speaker 3: I I don't want to go through all this next

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Speaker 3: year when I gotta get my money right. So from

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Speaker 3: an outside perspective, we'll kind of break down how does

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Speaker 3: this look for the Cowboys, how they handle their star players?

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Speaker 3: So we got Anthony Dorsett and we're we're talking about

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Speaker 3: this Mica situation. This is the topic of discussion. I

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Speaker 3: had some other things planned as I was driving up

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Speaker 3: here today and then that news hit and it was

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Speaker 3: like all hell broke, lose, don't nothing else matter. And

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Speaker 3: this is a pattern that the Cowboys have had when

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Speaker 3: it comes to playing their star players.

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Speaker 2: But this is played out in front of everybody.

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Speaker 3: These shots that they taken at Micah and that digs

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Speaker 3: and hell. Terrence Steele was sitting at the crib eating

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Speaker 3: the chicken pop pie and they take a shot at him.

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Speaker 3: They backed the bus up on him, and King of

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Speaker 3: got contracts and paying players that probably don't deserve contracts.

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Speaker 3: And then now you're looking at argu the best defensive

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Speaker 3: player in the league, and he has come to a

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Speaker 3: point where he said, I'm done. I washed my hands

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Speaker 3: with this situation. I no longer want to be a

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys because of their inability to treat me how

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Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be treated.

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Speaker 2: That taking shots at me.

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Speaker 3: They won't negotiate with my agent, they try to back

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Speaker 3: me into a corner of these conversations in these rooms

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Speaker 3: at the super Bowl, at all these different events that

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Speaker 3: they had. I want to ask you guys a question,

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Speaker 3: because playing for outside teams and being in this league

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Speaker 3: on the outside peripheral.

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Speaker 2: How does this look?

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Speaker 3: How does this look if you're a guy and you're

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Speaker 3: a pending free agent, this is the year that you're looking.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're saying, man, this is my last year

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Speaker 3: in this deal. Whatever current team I'm on, Maybe I

708
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Speaker 3: am too. Like Micah, a Dallas Cowboys fan, my family

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Speaker 3: is I've always wanted.

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Speaker 2: To giving me this look?

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Speaker 3: Are there they are outside free agents? Are players on.

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Speaker 2: This team I e.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, Deron Bland, Guys who have contracts coming up?

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Speaker 3: Are they looking at this bike the situation and saying,

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Speaker 3: you know what, Doug, I don't want no part of that.

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Speaker 3: That organization. I know the name is dead and the

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Speaker 3: star is dead, but they ain't. They haven't won much

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Speaker 3: in thirty years, and now this is how they're treating

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Speaker 3: their star player, Dematra. You give me the faceh I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna let you rock out first.

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Speaker 4: This is Kermit the Frog. Mean, if you ain't yeh man,

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Speaker 4: that is their business and I'm gonna sip my tea

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day. Like for guys that

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Speaker 4: are in the organization, sure you might feel a little

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Speaker 4: personal because it's like you work with this guy. If

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Speaker 4: it's anybody that deserves it. Sure, but also you're taking

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Speaker 4: a look and saying a step back, like if you're

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Speaker 4: being realistic and if your agent is being realistic for

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Speaker 4: free agents, guys that are listening to me or not

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Speaker 4: or whatever, if it goes viral or not, like know

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Speaker 4: your worth and know your value. But also with that

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Speaker 4: being said, like it's gonna happen. The shield is the shield.

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Speaker 4: Recruiting is recruiting. Let's not get it twisted. This is

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Speaker 4: still America's team. This is still the most valuable team

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Speaker 4: and franchise out of all thirty two teams. People will

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Speaker 4: take less money just to come here so they can

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Speaker 4: hopefully be the star on the field and realize it.

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Speaker 4: As you mentioned earlier, the different brand deals, everything that's

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Speaker 4: come along with it. You think, Micah, like you said

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Speaker 4: Bleacher Report, Micah has cornerstone that corner, like Jerry has

741
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Speaker 4: mentioned it in the past, like he's helped all his guys.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you want to get into, we can help you

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Speaker 4: get there. So they are sitting there saying like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're playing hardball. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: like Nui said, the facts are there. Their guys get

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Speaker 4: paid just like anywhere else, they get paid, and nobody's

747
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Speaker 4: looking at that. You're gonna sit there and be like,

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Speaker 4: not me, I'm gonna do this, and that I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: take less money. I ain't gonna play as hardball. And

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Speaker 4: guess what, when you're a record breaking guy, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: take a lot longer. Everybody doesn't get paid when they

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Speaker 4: want to get paid. Some guys get paid a little

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Speaker 4: bit early in this and that. But guess what. They

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Speaker 4: left some chicken out there, They left some skin on

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Speaker 4: the bones, some meat there. Well, guess what right now, Mike,

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Speaker 4: I already told you he said I'm not taking this

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Speaker 4: and that I'm gonna get paid what I want to.

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Speaker 4: So for him to get paid like that, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: take time. And so for him to get there with

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Speaker 4: those other guys in those free agents, they're gonna sit

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Speaker 4: there and say, well, shoot, they gave him that bag.

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Speaker 4: I know they got the bread over there. Hey, that's

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Speaker 4: America's team. I know I can get this money off

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Speaker 4: the field. So people are still gonna want to play

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Speaker 4: for the start. It doesn't affect it.

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Speaker 8: Just thinking about the names that you mentioned who have

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Speaker 8: all gone through this, and it seems like they were

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Speaker 8: all cowboy draft picks.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, that's one thing all right.

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Speaker 8: So in that they've gone through their first contract with

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Speaker 8: the team and now they're working on their second, know

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Speaker 8: what I mean, it may be their biggest one. Free

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Speaker 8: agents they ain't just chasing cast they chasing championships as well,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And so it depends on

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Speaker 8: what God we're talking about. He Jesse mentioned Cowboys ain't

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Speaker 8: done nothing almost thirty years, you know, but pay some people,

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Speaker 8: but they haven't won any championships. So as a free agent,

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Speaker 8: if I'm looking at the opportunity, and it depends on

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Speaker 8: what I'm chasing, okay, from chasing the bag, not worried

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Speaker 8: about winning the championship or anything else like that, And

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Speaker 8: I'm looking at, say some longevity as far as off

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Speaker 8: the field things. And I know what this platform of

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Speaker 8: the start can do for me. Oh yeah, I'm definitely

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Speaker 8: interested in it. But if I'm chasing the bag and

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Speaker 8: I'm chasing championships, as a free agent, looking at this

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Speaker 8: situation here, like I'm knowing that I may come here

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Speaker 8: from another team and have one deal here likely because

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Speaker 8: that second deal here may be the hardest thing for

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Speaker 8: me to ever get going, and somebody else may be

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Speaker 8: able to pay me equal or close to it with

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Speaker 8: less headache and may be able to get me to

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Speaker 8: a better winning situation as well. So it just like Jesse, Yes,

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Speaker 8: as a free agent, it would honestly depend on what

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Speaker 8: I needed, what I wanted. And then I'm breaking down

795
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Speaker 8: the structure of the team. Is this the championship team?

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Speaker 8: What can we actually do with this team?

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Speaker 4: But you proved, but you proved my points exactly what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that it's all the other outside stuff that

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Speaker 4: proves and has the implication on what the original question was.

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Speaker 4: Does this situation affect free agency? It's not. It's about

801
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Speaker 4: what I said, the money, the brand, this and that,

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Speaker 4: what you said, championships, rings and stuff like that, like

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Speaker 4: Micah's situation.

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Speaker 8: You don't think that a free agent sitting at home

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Speaker 8: watching this is like saying like.

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Speaker 4: Circus. There's certain people, Yeah, but everybody has a circus

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Speaker 4: within theirselves, whether it's with a guy getting paid on time,

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Speaker 4: a guy going to quote unquote a losing organization, and

809
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Speaker 4: this and that. We all know if you're a playmaker,

810
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Speaker 4: you're gonna change it. If you're a bad getter, you're

811
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Speaker 4: gonna go get this bag. Like, yeah, there's gonna be

812
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Speaker 4: some guys that might take it personal. The guys that

813
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Speaker 4: have already made their money and stuff like that. Those vets. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they might say, hey, I don't want to go with

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Speaker 4: the headache, so I'm not going to do that. But

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Speaker 4: those are the guys that made their money, the guys

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Speaker 4: that haven't got their back yet, they're gonna sit there

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Speaker 4: and be like, it's America's team. I'm trying to get it,

819
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Speaker 4: like everybody, what does every player do when we all

820
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Speaker 4: came into the league. We can change an organization. We

821
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Speaker 4: can change that, Like why not us? We're already anomaly

822
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Speaker 4: by getting drafted and doing all these other things. I

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Speaker 4: look at it where I'm betting on myself and saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't do me like that, because I'm gonna come

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Speaker 4: in here and do this or do that.

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Speaker 8: In a different standpoint, I'm just saying free agents, everybody

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Speaker 8: that's a free agent ain't got money.

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Speaker 5: And everybody that's a free agent it may have some

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: So what it boils down to, and what I'm trying

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Speaker 8: to stick to is just a simple fact of like,

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Speaker 8: as I'm sitting at home observing how they're treating their

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Speaker 8: players that they've drafted that they supposed to already be

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Speaker 8: in love with.

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Speaker 5: I ain't part of that draft. They don't have no

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Speaker 5: reason to love me.

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Speaker 8: But for my production, I haven't been in that organization

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Speaker 8: for a number of years.

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Speaker 5: They haven't seen me day in and day out, show.

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Speaker 8: Up, put my leadership to the to the to the

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Speaker 8: point to the front of the everything that's going on,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And so as guys sit

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Speaker 8: back and they watch all this, no, it's it's a

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Speaker 8: turnoff to a lot of dudes.

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Speaker 5: It definitely would be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and perceptions, perceptions, everything is to have

847
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Speaker 4: that half glass mentality, is it full or is it not?

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Speaker 4: Like you said, I think I definitely agree with you

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Speaker 4: as far as saying, there's gonna be some guys that

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Speaker 4: are going to be turned off in that thing. But

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Speaker 4: when it comes to talking to your contracts, those guys

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Speaker 4: are typically the guys that's already made their money. The

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Speaker 4: guys just say, hey, I can go over here and

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Speaker 4: do this and do that before a guy that is

855
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Speaker 4: sitting there talking to x's and those you're agent is

856
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Speaker 4: saying get over there. And not everybody gets heartball like

857
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Speaker 4: this with the cowboys when it comes to contract negotiation. Hell,

858
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Speaker 4: they just paid the tight end. We didn't see it

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Speaker 4: coming like that. Like there have been guys now outside.

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Speaker 8: The tight that was hit their guy, but that doesn't

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Speaker 8: have the amount of production, notoriety, leadership or anything like

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Speaker 8: like Micah has that on this team.

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Speaker 4: That's why I said, And then we.

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Speaker 8: Talked earlier about you guys mentioned everybody else from Dak

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Speaker 8: to Daz to all these dudes who have been in

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Speaker 8: here put their best foot forward and still had to

867
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Speaker 8: go through the whole fight and everything else to just

868
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Speaker 8: get what they deserve, you know what I mean. And

869
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Speaker 8: everybody didn't break the market or set the market. Some

870
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 8: of these dudes got what the market was given. And

871
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Speaker 8: if it's that hard, like I mean, if I'm Jerry negotiating,

872
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 8: I see TJ White out there, I know what I

873
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 8: got in my house right now. You know why let

874
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Speaker 8: somebody else go set the market for you?

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Speaker 4: Of course, I mean business wise you say that, but

876
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: you're also now that's where it's above our pay grade.

877
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: But your pride and egos getting into the way, that's

878
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: where you are. I'm not going to say pride to ego,

879
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 4: but that's where different. Who's gonna stick to their guns

880
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: and say this and that and if I'm Jerry in

881
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: my position and stuff like that, I'm the reason that

882
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: the organization has gotten to where it is being worth

883
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Speaker 4: the amount of money that is worth me paying the

884
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Speaker 4: players like that, I'm gonna stick to my guns because

885
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 4: guess what I'm gonna beat most likely guess what, who's

886
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: gonna be here when you're going who was here before

887
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 4: you got here? Who brought this here? So I'm gonna

888
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: stand on that, just like a player gonna sit there

889
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: and say, hey, I'm standing on my resume like this

890
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: is what I did. And both of them are having

891
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 4: a stale match. But guess what, you got two big

892
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Speaker 4: horses that are round in each other. We don't know

893
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. Who's gonna give first, and that's what

894
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Speaker 4: it is. But we all know that whenever it gives

895
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Speaker 4: and that Levy breaks, it's gonna break. Because the Brins

896
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: trucks is rolling in. There's gonna be some type of

897
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Speaker 4: deal or something that I'm telling you he might not

898
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Speaker 4: have ownership, but he's gonna have some big land out there.

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Speaker 4: And prosper Texas by Universal Studios.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Cowboys will be back at practice tomorrow. They

901
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: had a day off today, and boy talking about dropping

902
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: some news on your day off. He ain't get fired

903
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: the day off, drop some news on your day off.

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Speaker 3: And I thank you guys for allowing me to join

905
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: you today while Newie is in ox Star California. Yeah,

906
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: mister mister noble himself. And uh, I think I may

907
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: be back next week because I think so. I think

908
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: Newie still might be.

909
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: He still don't might be.

910
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, he said he was gonna be there

911
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: until the game. So okay, next week, what Tuesday and Thursday?

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: They'll be back with you guys, Tuesday and Thursday next week. Yes,

914
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Speaker 3: so hopefully we'll have something more productive to talk about. Well,

915
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: we're gonna get into training camp and players and things

916
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: of that nature. But I appreach you God to let

917
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Speaker 3: me hackle you. Uh, Anthonys Demontree.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Barry Church for Newie, Scrugs for Paul, I'm Jesse holly Man.

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Speaker 2: And the soap opera continues.

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Speaker 3: It continues, and we'll see what the hell happens over

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Speaker 3: the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Micah has dropped.

924
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Speaker 3: The big joker. We'll see what the response of the

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Speaker 3: Jones family is. But we'll be here back here on

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Speaker 3: the players Lounge next week. Thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time right there.

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