WEBVTT - Episode 63: Wonder Woman 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.120 Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to another edition of Notificent. I 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.360 am one half of your host, Danny Fernandez, sitting across 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.880 from me as always is. If you want anyway, how 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.360 are you doing, Danny? If any day that we're together 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.440 is a good day? Oh, I like the sound of that. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.920 That is very true. I feel the energy it is 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:35.360 pumping through me. I'm ready to attack. This is actually 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.120 kind of a big app you know, because I mean, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.760 this is the first one we've done in a while 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:45.960 that one of us has been a hyper huge Well 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.800 that's why I kind of pushed it off, because well, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:54.520 it's such a big it's such a big topic, and um, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.840 it covers a lot. And when you're you know, considered 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.600 someone that knows a lot about it, you there's a 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:06.360 lot of pressure. Even though she is my o G superhero, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.000 best of all time, the Goat, the one and only. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:15.080 But before we get into her, we have an expert here, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.720 uh Tamara Brooks, who's a writer of all things. Thanks 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.320 for joining us, Thank you for having me. It's going 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.840 pretty well. You're always my wonder Woman. Like we've been 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.760 on Wonder Woman panels together at like Comic Con l 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:34.200 a comic con. Wonder constant ego comic con. You're You're 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.800 always my go to for You're just such a wealth 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.080 of knowledge. I appreciate that greatly. She is my favorite. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.840 She is my guiding light in life. She is part 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.440 like no joke. Like without the Linda Carter Wonder Woman series, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.240 I don't know what kind of person I'd be because 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.600 I probably have been drunk with power from being so 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.360 tall as a kid. Um. But I was watching her 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.120 show and it's like, well, but she's tall. She uses 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.440 her powers to help people, and I should help people 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.160 that everyone in your family is also super nerdy, Like 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.000 I went to lunch with your family at comic was 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:12.240 it a comic wonder Yeah, her family loves me, by 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.480 the way, your mom has adopted me. But like your family, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.240 I think we argued like everybody was there, and it 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.600 was literally arguing about representation and comics like who is 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.639 the best like Batman or who? Like it was all 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.040 of the It was so funny at the table. Yeah, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.600 it's And it's funny because my mom, who never was 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.000 like a nerd nerd when we were kids, but like 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.320 always kind of watch stuff with us, and she was 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.840 a nerd about certain things, like she loved Dynasty, and 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.520 she loved Dallas, and she loved like certain TV shows 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.160 were like her jam but like you know, it wasn't 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.079 like the same you know thing like she like really 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.000 like soaps and all that kind of stuff. Um, but 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.560 she is, uh, she's a teacher. She was one of 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.880 the um uh first Uh she's at the forefront of 0:02:54.919 --> 0:03:00.160 antibios education in California and probably everywhere. So like that 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.560 was like I am partially the way I am because 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.840 of her, you know, genetics and all that stuff, and 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.600 because she's always been about you know, representation and uh, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.799 you know, teaching kids how to just see each other 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.560 as people and stuff like that. So um yeah, yeah, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.160 she's And so it's funny now because she will watch 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.120 all these Marvel movies and all DC movies or whatever, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.960 but it'll take about like a year for her to 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.400 see them because she waits until they're on like TBS 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.320 and so so like it'll be like a year and 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.000 a half ago will go by, and then my mom 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.480 will call me one day and she's like, I just 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.640 saw Batman the Superman, and you know, she just just 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.520 start talking about her opinions about it. It's actually pretty great, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.760 Like oh no, we already went. We are. But it's 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.960 adorable because it's like, you know, a grenade of reactions, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.600 you know, like she just throw it and you had 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.240 wait for like a real long time before Mom's goes off. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.560 So um so yeah, And so sometimes she'll call me 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.760 and have questions about stuff, like she has very definitive 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.400 opinions about um, all the things that she watches. She 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.920 very much likes Henry Calvil. She thinks Ben Affleck was 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.680 a good Batman, but did not like the movie at all. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.040 She did not think it was well written. So that's 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.320 what my mom says, she shouldn't start her own YouTube channel. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.880 I know, I keep thinking about doing like a short 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.680 thing with my mom and just being like five minute 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:21.440 mom interviews or that's hilarious. So we normally start our 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.560 podcast with what people are seeking out about? What are 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.400 you seeking out about? This week? It's two different things 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.200 on very different sides of the spectrum. So one is 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:36.839 the Cartoon Network series Summer Camp Island. It is the cutest, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.880 most adorable thing I've ever seen in my life, but 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.159 also not like Saccarin too much in a way, but 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:46.360 like it's about these like kids who are actually animals, 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.760 but they're people, you know, at this at the summer 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.919 camp that's on the island that turns out to be magical. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.760 So the camp counselors are witches, and the trees talk, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.120 and there's a moon that says stuff, and there's like 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.080 Yettie and all that stuff, and then um, the main 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.480 character's pajamas have a little face and it's his friend, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.680 and it's just so cute but also just like really 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.080 enjoyable and it's very soothing because of the world's on fire. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.919 So that's one thing. The other thing old murder mystery 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.000 shows I have been watching really, yes, I've been watching 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.480 a lot of Matlock Murder, she wrote, and heart to 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:24.520 Heart because I am also a insomniac, so so I'm 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.599 like it's three in the morning when I'm oh, look murder, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:32.039 she wrote, Let's get a cracking heart to heart Hello. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.919 So that's and it's also, you know, as a writer, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.000 looking at the way that stories evolve is really interesting. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.760 And I like mysteries a lot, but I don't tend 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.080 to write them, so it's like kind of looking at 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.000 that process is also really interesting to me. And then 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.919 seeing like a bunch of guest stars from back in 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:50.760 the day. That's also, yeah, that's true. What about you, Danny? 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.800 When are you into? When are you nerd out about? 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.839 Right now? You know, there's two things that will throw 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.600 in there. Um. One is Glow season three is drop 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.920 their trailer. They're coming out really excited about that. I 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.920 pretty much binge it the second that it drops. That's 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.719 what I do. Uh. The second is, I guess I 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.520 haven't talked about Ship's Creek, which is like for everyone 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.960 that watches it is like duh. But there's still so 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.839 many people that haven't seen it yet. And I see 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.839 people tweet like, why did no one tell me about 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:24.400 this show? Um? It is amazing. In fact, Dan Levy, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.159 who is Eugene Levy's son and they play father and 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.640 son in the series, just won an MTV Award this 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.160 past weekend, and he started at MTV he was a host, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.280 so that's pretty cool that it's come full circle for him. Um, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.320 such a great show. Catherine O'Hara probably like my favorite 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.120 that I've ever seen her. She's Oh my gosh, it's 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.320 like all of her roles like just combined. She gets 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.480 to play a kind of washed up actress in this 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.760 and so she gets to combine like every role that 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.280 you've probably seen her in and her accents are crazy 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.560 and she's just she's so funny. Um. But it's perfect 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:05.039 ensemble cast, Like the writing is so quick, so funny. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.120 I can't say enough about it. I've watched like the 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.800 first several seasons multiple times and now they're on um 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.640 I think season five or six. But yeah, seeing every episode, 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.600 it is amazing. Um. Can I add one thing because 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.920 I forgot about it to the amazing world of Gumball. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.520 Also never show that like surprisingly nobody talks about. But 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:31.120 it's like the trippiest, most awesome, Like they'll have like 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.480 crazy like existential episodes and uh, you know, they had 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.240 a thing where like they they change animation style. So 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.120 there's an episode with their mom fighting a childhood friend 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.880 that turned into anime at the end, Like it was 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:46.960 just it's a great show, guys, It's a great show. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.760 Check out show what about you, Iffie? You know, as always, 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.880 I'm ginking about some video game or another. And the 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.440 two video games I'm geeking out about now is the 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.960 first one is Death Guarden Blood Harvest, which is made 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.720 by Bad Behavior, the same folks who made uh Dead 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.960 by Daylight, which is if you don't know Dead by Daylight, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.440 it's a horror game where it's a team of five 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.720 survivors versus one monsters. And what's cool is they've done 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.040 like collapse with actual horror I p so leather faces 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.240 in the game. You have uh the saw pig in 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:26.120 the game and other different things and you have abilities. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.720 So they went and it's kind of the same format, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.720 but instead of being horror, it's more action and it 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.080 takes place in this dysatopian future where in order to 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.960 make it into the enclave, which is where all the 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.920 cream of the crop people, you fight your way through 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.800 the slums and you have to survive in the death 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.840 garden the blood hardest and you collect blood uh sacrifice 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.360 it and then eventually it'll open the door. But there 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.400 are hunters there. There's one main hunter who is hunting 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.920 you down. So there's uh about five players who are 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.240 scavengers trying to survive. You don't have any type of 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.880 lethal weapons or abilities. All your abilities or mobility hiding based. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.800 One of the characters I like to use, H has 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.760 active CAMO that drops an a O E area of 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.520 effect on the ground that makes you invisible and can 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.880 run away, and you just have to try and collect 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.280 things while this machine gun bad guy is just chasing 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:29.240 you around. It's essentially just crazy tag. It's deadly tag. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.040 And the other game is Judgment, which is made by 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.360 the same developers of the Yakuza series, except this one 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.240 is a detective game, where like you are a private 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.000 investigator and you take on missions, but like they can 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.520 be as simple as find out if someone's wife is 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.679 cheating on them, and as you know, goes deeper than that. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.160 And I'll probably just be playing that NonStop because it's fun. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.440 I haven't played any of the other Yakuza game, so 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.360 this seems like a fun place to start. But that's 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.920 what I've been thinking about. Well, I think it's time 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.280 that we hop into our our Woman of the Hour, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.840 the Woman wonder, the woman, the myth, the legend, wondrous 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.920 and a woman. Yeah, she's um super dope. She is 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.040 one of the first superheroes just period, especially the ones 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.880 that still exists and right now. Um. She She and 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.280 Captain America debut in the same year, so about ten 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.360 aouts of parts. So she was and um also interesting 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.240 because their colors are the same. Yeah, and the same 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.440 pretty similar and the American flag essentially. Yeah, and it's 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.920 interesting because they kind of both did come from a 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:44.000 place of challenging society at the moment, because you know, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.559 Captain America is very much hate punch Nazi. Yeah so, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.240 and then she also punches Nazis because that's also a 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.160 thing that you're supposed to do. But like, um, you know, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:11:00.920 Captain America was very much about, um, you know, kind 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.440 of like an immigrant ideal, like rising up for your 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:08.760 country kind of situation. And Wonder Woman is a feminist ideal, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.520 which when you say feminism, you don't think nineteen forties, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.360 but hey, that stuff existed then yeah. Yeah, do you 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.360 want to talk about her creator? Yes? So her creator 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:24.400 who there's a movie about him and this this whole situation. Um, 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.280 did you like it? I didn't end up seeing it 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.760 yet because I'm behind on everything. Um, but I like 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.400 the cast and it looked cool, so I'm definitely it's 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.439 on my list. I'm like, I have fourteen episodes of 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.319 Superdult Girl. Everything's been on fire, Like I'm so behind 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:45.160 on everything, but um, yeah, so. William Molton Marston UH 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.439 is also known for um developing the polygraph and also 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.760 the basically the blood pressure uh you know the system. Yeah, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.559 he created the systolic blood pressure tests, which was one 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.640 component that they used for a polygraph. Yeah, so you 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.679 know the same thing that tells you make sure that 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.079 you don't like blow your lid because you're too stressed. Also, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.120 thanks to the guy who created Wonder would well, it's 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:12.600 interesting connection because she has a lasso of truth and 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.160 that was like a truth telling machine. So it's definitely 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.080 like his I believe he developed a polygraph first, which 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.720 is how that and that also kind of in developing 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.200 the polygraph, he found out that during his tests that 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.880 women responded much differently under pressure and better under the 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.720 pressures of the tests, and so that was kind of 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.400 that kind of tied into his you know, he's married 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.280 to a very strong woman. They was, you know, she's 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.199 really awesome. She was actually very paramount. And actually the 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.160 creation of Wonder wound because when he said, hey, I 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:44.800 want to create this character that does this that that 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.319 she's like great, make it a woman. Um, so he 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:52.640 already has these ideals of you know, women are really dope, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.240 we should maybe listen to them and maybe they should 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.160 run more stuff and uh you know, you know, and 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.600 and the fact that he wanted to it a character 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:05.320 that girls could look up to and be good with 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.559 being feminine and not just being you know, like a 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.320 masculine version. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we've I think we talked 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.280 about this on a panel that we were on that 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.240 they that their strength and femininity. I think a lot 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.199 of times they think that they have to give them 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.520 male traits. And there's something about Wonder Woman being like 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.400 the thing that I liked in her um in the 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.600 movie was that she when she walked by a baby 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.560 and it was like it's a baby, you know, like 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.560 it was such a They still kept that element of 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.600 her um. But yeah, So speaking of Elizabeth Marston, she 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.560 was a psychologist and an attorney and professor Marston who 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.880 created Wonder Woman, you know, essentially with her or inspired 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:53.640 by her and their life partner Olive Burne, who is 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.920 important because they were in a polyamorous relationship. I was 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.559 just reading up on this. Yeah, yeah, you should watch 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.960 the movie. Um so, and I will say that there's 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.359 an interesting thing about that where that was that's a 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.880 conclusion that was made that's never been verified, that's true 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.720 that Yeah. Yeah, so I just want to say that 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.800 because it's really interesting and I think we really really 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.440 want to believe it and it actually makes a lot 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.160 of sense. But a lot of respect for the family, 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.680 I would like to at least bring up the fact 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.520 that we don't know if that's a hunter, I understand. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.200 I also think at that time there's no way you 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.000 could be a queer woman openly, right, your family probably 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:35.400 so she so um and alive. At least this is rumored. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.200 I guess. Then we'll say that all have had female lovers. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.880 And that is another reason why I mean, to us, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.800 wonder woman is queer, she's seen as a queer character. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.720 That is always an interesting thing with you know, blanks, 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.400 things like these not being confirmed by the family, because 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.080 this is like, uh, you know, I want to talk 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.200 to the friends then, because because like a lot of 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.840 sectually with especially when it comes to queer and stuff 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.040 like this, it's always like, well, were you not confirming it? 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.560 It's like, are you not confirming it because you didn't 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.880 see it happen or because you don't want it to 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.480 be part of their legacy because you think it's a 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.120 bad thing. But and you know, and and it's in 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.240 society from a society perspective, They probably felt like they 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.960 couldn't say anything like yeah, because to be honest, the 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.960 latter is essentially worse because then you would think, okay, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.120 maybe there there was a Well then then now we're like, all, like, 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.160 what did this happen? Either way, they seem to have 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.920 had a dope unit and it was absolutely and it worked. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.000 And I think that everybody wants it to be true 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:43.000 now because we because not even because the salaciousness of it, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.160 but because that's just super dope. That's like just it's 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.400 a really positive way that it's not women competing with 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.960 each other, or at least maybe in the beginning they 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.280 kind of were, and then they ended up, you know, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.720 not you know, realizing that they work better as a team. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:03.160 And yeah, so let's hop into Diana Prince. So let's 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.440 just do the nitty gritty and we'll just say that. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.040 Wonder Woman is a superhero appearing in the American comic 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.280 books published by d C Comics. The character is a 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.680 founding member of the Justice League, and the character first 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:18.280 appeared in All Star Comics number eight in October ninety one, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.320 with her first feature being in Sensation Comics number one 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.560 in January nine two, and you were you had like 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:30.080 a dope ut fact when we drop a little knowledge. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.960 I got. So I got to go on the DC 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.480 Archives tour, which is amazing. Um, I wanted to stay 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.640 in there forever. Uh. And I found out that basically 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.960 the All Star Comics UH story was a condensed version 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.160 of like that's part of the reason why there's so 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.560 much like text on all the boxes and stuff, because 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.800 they only had like five D eight pages in there. Um, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.240 and they wanted to basically have a trailer before her 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.520 comic came out for real in January. So um, that 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.320 was a that was a nice little yeah that I 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.080 didn't Yeah, did you get to see it? And I got? 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.760 I got, I got who hold it in a special 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.520 case obviously what I said. So you posted a picture 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.120 of the DC Archives and my first thought was like, 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.240 these are sex toys because it was a whip. It 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.960 was like that looked like something else and there was 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.760 like but it's so funny because relating back to Professor Marston, 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.560 he was that he was into S and M and 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.040 they and it was interesting that they had like that. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.520 This was actually brought up that people were accusing him 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.720 of having bondage, spanking, homosexuality like in his comics, which 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.840 again this was in the forties, so it's like to me, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.560 it's super dope and like slid that in there. But anyway, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:45.399 it definitely some of those the original DC archive like stuff. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.320 I'm like, yeah, I could I see what they were 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.399 doing well. And also I think that it seems like 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.919 it's really like out of ordinary for that kind of 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.639 slacious stuff to be in the books. But if you 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.200 actually look at the comics from back then, like the 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.000 third Easy mean, they've got crazy stuff going on. There's 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.879 a lot of like female vigilantes that like merk dudes 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.800 left and right, and like like we had water up, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.680 but we had water propaganda. But also these men were 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.119 reading these during like that we're going to war, you 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:18.920 know what I mean. They were like so in the 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.600 same way that early pornography, you know, like they had 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.320 some of those maga the pin up and she looks 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.359 like you know, to some extent. Although he definitely kept her, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.879 she was definitely sexualized later. I think her early stages 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.520 were not as much and you can and those and 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.200 also her that skirt in that first episode that first 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.000 issue is not actually skirts cots. You can actually clearly. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.320 Isn't that funny? Yeah, they're just flowing breathe. Um, we 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.399 have I know this is gonna this is gonna be 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.000 a three hour there's so much. Uh so. She her 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.560 official title is Princess Diana of themis Cia also known 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.560 as Paradise Island. Um. That's what I told it forever 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.600 because my first comic was of her, was her original 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:09.600 run from Marston and they called it Parents. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.000 and that's also why. And she's a daughter of Hippolita. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.920 That is also why. I'm a hardcore old school O 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.280 g that she came from Clay because that was her 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:23.320 original that has been changed a couple of times. I 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.800 don't know what you're talking about. We have to ika. 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:31.040 Yes she is uh, this is from Wikipedia. She has 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.720 no father, which is what I guess you and I 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.440 subscribe to UM. But she was created by Zeus. There 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:44.159 are there are issues where Hippolita and I believe Athena 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.800 are fighting over Zeus. I think that's as a Rillo's 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.560 run and I dated that because we went from essentially 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.160 we went from women being like this island of women 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.160 were all together. We're like, you know, we're not each 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.720 other's competition to these two women fighting over a dudes. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.040 And on top of that, they made it so that 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.399 a bunch of the other Amazons would make fun of 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.920 her and call her clay, which I was also is 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.040 dumb and awful and like, I just hate everything pretty 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.760 much that they did, except for Cliff Chang's art. Like, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.280 I just don't know what you're saying. Brian as Arello 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:25.480 went and did this, like, you know, almost stereotypical representation 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.600 of woman, the same Brian as Arello who made Cage. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.960 I actually like Cage. I like as much as as 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:38.280 much as most people hate it, right, I think, um, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.680 I think Jeff was saying how much he didn't like 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.440 it either. Was that the first time because I don't 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.200 want I mean, I don't want anyone to write it. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.440 Is that the first time that they had that, that 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.000 they had the two of them fighting over as far 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.560 as I know, as far as I know, so like, yeah, 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.560 so the origin kind of so she gets made out 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.760 of clay, which is, by the way, Greek origin myths. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.880 So I don't understand why making her chick hercules makes 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.879 anymore Greek mythology, but whatever, So she starts out being 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:11.200 made by Clay given life. Yeah, so Robert Canninger when 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.440 he took over in the I believe was the early sixties, 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.560 he expanded on her myth so that that's where all 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.200 the gods giving her various gifts came from. So that's 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.800 the you know, as beautiful as aphro diety. And then 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:25.879 that's where that came from. That was the period that 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:27.359 that came from. So that was the beginning of the 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:32.840 Silver Age and so um, then she got depowered because 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.200 the Amazons had to leave this dimension. That's when she 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.840 became a spy. And then she got her powers back 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:43.399 in the early seventies. If you're wearing all white outfit 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.959 with a gun in like a mad dress's And then 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:47.879 at one point she was well she started out as 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:54.240 a secretary, but technically and Justice League well secretary, but 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.919 that was to like hide her amongst the normi people. Yes, 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.080 yeah that that, yeah, as opposed to then being despite 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.960 being the most powerful person there being the Justice League secretary. 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.600 Shout out to the Comics Code everybody for messing up 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.080 a whole lot of women's comics during that time. Yeah 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.240 a lot. Yeah, So we are going to break down 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.000 the rest of her origin as well as her transition 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:30.760 throughout the comics right after this and we're back. If 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.080