Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, c J. Tolodano, and I'm joined by our
Speaker 1: other host, Vic and Gaily, my wife and co host.
Speaker 1: How are you doing. I'm doing well well. So we're
Speaker 1: we're recording this on the eve of Sunday Game seven
Speaker 1: of Dodgers Braves and I totally forgot our guest has
Speaker 1: many credits, but we've been selling. I just celebrated a
Speaker 1: little bit of a Lakers victory with him a few
Speaker 1: days ago over a podcast, and now we're about to
Speaker 1: have him on writer for Sherman's Showcase. He's done all
Speaker 1: the late night shows. What else you've written for the sps? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys run on the SPS together, different experiences, more gossip.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get some of those stories out. But
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Rob Hayes. Wow is own
Speaker 1: hype man? Love that Rob? Did you imagine that you
Speaker 1: would be in this position over the last few weeks
Speaker 1: where you be potentially watching I mean you watch the Lakers,
Speaker 1: your favorite NBA team, wining and potentially seeing your your
Speaker 1: braves go on the World Series. No, I I had
Speaker 1: no clue that. Yeah, I don't think I never imagined
Speaker 1: in the NBA Final October. So yeah, it really is thrown.
Speaker 1: It's thrown me off. Everything like sports is I found
Speaker 1: out is like my biological clock and like ship is
Speaker 1: funky in my brain right now because of it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you feel like you're gonna be pregnant if like
Speaker 1: you gotta get pregnant by a certain time because the
Speaker 1: sports I mean yea, like when the athletes, they're like,
Speaker 1: well every every like football player gets married in the
Speaker 1: same month because it's like the one month that they
Speaker 1: are able to love that yea. But yeah, and so
Speaker 1: that's how c J meals. But he has no on court,
Speaker 1: on field requirements. I'm like coming down from this week
Speaker 1: from like the Lakers championship, even though like they they
Speaker 1: just I just saw a video of them in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Did you see this video, Rob, No. I remember the
Speaker 1: Cavs video in Vegas, so I figured they probably went
Speaker 1: to Vegas, but I didn't see the video. Vegas seems
Speaker 1: like the place in the country most willing to turn
Speaker 1: up and least willing to mask up, you know, So
Speaker 1: like I think you can to go to Florida. It's like, guys,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? But to go to Vegas right now?
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, yeah, I guess if you already have
Speaker 1: COVID and you want a party and you've been locked
Speaker 1: away for four months, that's where you would go to party.
Speaker 1: I think the thought processes is so high outside, Like
Speaker 1: if I get it in and I walk outside and
Speaker 1: kill it, like go just boil it off. It is
Speaker 1: hard to tell, Like, how do you tell a team
Speaker 1: that just maybe won one of the hard this NBA
Speaker 1: titles that COVID it's still anywhere. I'm sure there's precautions.
Speaker 1: Did they okay, sure, did they invite everybody? Well? I
Speaker 1: just saw an influencer at the party, and I want
Speaker 1: I mean again, my priorities are out of whack because
Speaker 1: I was like, how come, how do how do I
Speaker 1: get that in? How do I get to that level
Speaker 1: where I get to go? Because this dude, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name names, but it's just like really
Speaker 1: he gets to stand next to the trophy and get
Speaker 1: a selfie at the day club party for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but also I saw yeah, I'm not no,
Speaker 1: I mean if, like I said, if you send it
Speaker 1: to your mom who lived in Vegas, and she was like,
Speaker 1: this is not good. They should not be here. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was necessary in twice sixth thing because
Speaker 1: they probably won so many people money the we wearing
Speaker 1: in the pandemic. But I remember my father being so
Speaker 1: mad at them for not going right back to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and he was like, they owe it to the people
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. They might have been waiting up all night
Speaker 1: they stopped like yo, but they leave the bubble and
Speaker 1: go to Vegas. Is crazy to be like the safest
Speaker 1: situation possible and just go where people all right, from
Speaker 1: all of the country go that don't care about man's insane. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean if they, if any of them do get it,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it shows that's very real. Like they
Speaker 1: were in the safer spot and now they there there
Speaker 1: and they got it. But how how have you been
Speaker 1: celebrating this week? Rob would have been some of the ways.
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about merch, but I'm curious
Speaker 1: how you've been celebrating the Lakers. One, Um, I got
Speaker 1: my hat in the mail yesterday. But I've just been
Speaker 1: you know, I've been calling my friends who were Lebron
Speaker 1: fans that were mad they who went to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, talking to my fellow Laker fans,
Speaker 1: my Laker fan friends that were van Lebron came to
Speaker 1: the team because I always is appreciated Lebron. I always
Speaker 1: loved the Lakers. So it's just like a perfect marriage
Speaker 1: to me. But everybody didn't feel like that. So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I I've really been having a great sports week up
Speaker 1: until Georgia losing yesterday. That kind of hurt because Georgia
Speaker 1: was undefeated. The Lakers won the championship, the Raiders beat
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I'm all over the place. That's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like the Raiders Chiefs. One is really, why why is
Speaker 1: it that you are a brave span where you're from Atlanta,
Speaker 1: but then your football and basketball team are non Atlanta. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we lived in Orlando from when I was one
Speaker 1: until I was like seven. So when Shack moved to
Speaker 1: l a Is the same time we moved back to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: One of Atlanta moved x Atlanta. So in my head,
Speaker 1: me being a kid, I'm thinking, all right, who knows,
Speaker 1: we might keep moving, So I'm just donning like my
Speaker 1: fanship is just gonna go with Shaq. I always wanted
Speaker 1: to be an actor, always wanted to be an entertainment
Speaker 1: even that young. So I was like, Yo, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be out there anyway, I might as well be
Speaker 1: a wow. Even at seven, you were like, I'll see you,
Speaker 1: I'll see you someday. Oh. I was like themselves at
Speaker 1: the game. That's where I'm getting. That's where I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be, you know. Jack Nicholson me like, yeah, That's
Speaker 1: how I always thought. So I've always been a Laker fan.
Speaker 1: My father has always been. He's from my family's from Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: My father didn't grow up with a NFL franchise, so
Speaker 1: him and all his friends just picked teams. One of
Speaker 1: his friends of Cowboys fans, one of his friends of
Speaker 1: Brown's fan. He's a Raiders fan. And when I was
Speaker 1: in middle school, he had a job where he was
Speaker 1: like working on the road during the week and then
Speaker 1: we would really only see him on the weekend. So
Speaker 1: the last thing I wanted to do was speaker about football,
Speaker 1: and that's like one of the days we had together.
Speaker 1: So then I became a Raiders fan. Became a Raiders
Speaker 1: span in oh one, we had two seasons where we
Speaker 1: were good and then the rest is been like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is what being a Raiders span is really like.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so what what location for the Raiders do
Speaker 1: you prefer? And how do you what do you think
Speaker 1: about this this current one? The black Holes, I was
Speaker 1: gonna have a special place in my heart because I
Speaker 1: was able to take my dad there for his birthday.
Speaker 1: So I'm always gonna like, uh, you know, um my
Speaker 1: father passed, So I always like like think of the
Speaker 1: black Hole as like you know, like that's got of
Speaker 1: like special memory and stuff. But being uh East Coast
Speaker 1: Raiders fan, they only got to see them, like you
Speaker 1: know when they came to Atlanta for preseason or you know,
Speaker 1: the one occasional game or we drove up to Tennessee
Speaker 1: to see them, and like, uh, it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So I'm cool with, you know, going to Vegas and
Speaker 1: in supporting the Vegas Raiders. Yeah, I feel bad for
Speaker 1: the die hard. I mean, when you think of Raiders fans,
Speaker 1: it's like that's one of the most loyal fan bases,
Speaker 1: and you see Raiders fans everywhere truly, but the Oakland
Speaker 1: and like all of that I mean, and some of
Speaker 1: the season's Last Chance you gave me like a new
Speaker 1: appreciation of it. But I do really it just sucks.
Speaker 1: I wash Vegas and gotten I think the Vegas Nights.
Speaker 1: It's like, let's start there and and maybe that's enough
Speaker 1: for them. And they have a w NBA team, But
Speaker 1: you were saying they're the owner is actually like doing
Speaker 1: a great job. I've turned around on Mark Davis. I
Speaker 1: you look at him and you go, this cannot be good,
Speaker 1: and then everything he does you're like, you know, like
Speaker 1: he didn't they have the new stadium. Obviously he didn't
Speaker 1: go to the home opener because he was like, if
Speaker 1: fans can't be here, then I don't think I should
Speaker 1: be here, which like, oh, that that's really nice for
Speaker 1: a billionaire to say. That's like not he's been really
Speaker 1: strict about masks. He seems like a good guy despite
Speaker 1: his hair cut only very surface and that's on me
Speaker 1: for being a jerk, but yeah, his Haircuse. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you say NFL owner and you're not, like, I
Speaker 1: bet he's a good guy, it's like it's not a
Speaker 1: crew of like awesome human beings. It's just not that's
Speaker 1: on them. That's not really on our of um stereotyping
Speaker 1: of them. They could be better. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like the Beatles are beloved and they had the
Speaker 1: same haircut, and you know it's albums, all those number
Speaker 1: one and then someone tries to bring the Beatles style
Speaker 1: back and then it's like, oh, look it's crazy man.
Speaker 1: When you know, really, come on, that's a whole generation
Speaker 1: grew up on the Beatles. Paul changed his haircut. Their
Speaker 1: hair was thicker. You know, he's got really a thin
Speaker 1: he's got a thin, whispy blonde bang, and they had
Speaker 1: a really nice, thick, dark bang. I mean, you tell
Speaker 1: me to to extreme redheads running that organization is is
Speaker 1: pretty intense. Oh, Grooden looks wild too. I mean I
Speaker 1: remember the first iteration. When he was with the Raiders,
Speaker 1: they would put Chucky up on because he does you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's funny. C J knows that. I love when
Speaker 1: fan when Frank Kelly Indo plays fat John Grooden love it.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't call it fat. He doesn't call it
Speaker 1: fat John groud No, no one does. It's not nice.
Speaker 1: It's not nice for me to say that. Ye are
Speaker 1: his facial expressions but that's not his face, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when did you go on Frank Kelly Indo's notes and
Speaker 1: it's like him all his characters is like John g
Speaker 1: John Man. He's just an honest man. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to listen. I would say John Madden. John Madden is
Speaker 1: one of his best ones because it's like, you guys
Speaker 1: are comfortable, your faces are the same size. That that's
Speaker 1: a that's but he does someone he was doing like
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey and it's like, dog you that's not possible
Speaker 1: for you. I can't, I can't. It was pre it
Speaker 1: was pretty, It was pretty. Yeah. Somebody asked me recently
Speaker 1: to like what kind of sports stand up do you tell?
Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you talking about? And
Speaker 1: They're like, you're like a sports comedian, right, and I'm
Speaker 1: like no, I mean yeah, like I wear just just
Speaker 1: the clothes I wear. I just wear like sneakers and
Speaker 1: NBA stuff. That's good that they've never seen your acts. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, likecent of people will follow me on Twitter
Speaker 1: with social media. I've never seen my It does seem
Speaker 1: like you would have two entire albums dedicated to nineties
Speaker 1: bulls at this point. Yeah. Yeah, like punch him in
Speaker 1: the face. I punched Steve Kerr in the fact, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing to me. I have some
Speaker 1: sports jokes, but you gotta muscle to crowd into it.
Speaker 1: Like you could never ask the crowd a sports question, right,
Speaker 1: You just have to pretend like they know exactly what
Speaker 1: you need. Like it's almost like, you know, you could
Speaker 1: just gotta assume. Like I had a joke about Gordon
Speaker 1: Hayward when he got injured and the hashtag pray for
Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward, because I thought that was that was a
Speaker 1: bit late, you know, like like you know, like like
Speaker 1: prey prepares right right now, we're prying up for Gordon Hayward,
Speaker 1: you know. And I just was like, if you know,
Speaker 1: if I made as much as Gordon Hayward, like it
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter, like just you have my whole Like I
Speaker 1: was like going to had cap my whole leg I
Speaker 1: would just be they had an injury. They had an
Speaker 1: injury timetable for him within hours, they said, like sixt
Speaker 1: eight months. There was no timetable for the other hashtags
Speaker 1: out there. You know. I love the brotherhood of people
Speaker 1: who have had bones completely pop out of their body.
Speaker 1: And then they're like, like Gordon Hayward was tweeting at
Speaker 1: DOC last week, like let me know if you need anything,
Speaker 1: Like they've got like a food train just for people
Speaker 1: whose legs have snapped in half. It's like, listen, I
Speaker 1: talked to Paul George. It's like, okay, he talked to
Speaker 1: Paul George. I talked to Gordon. Okay, he talked to
Speaker 1: in Heyward. I talked to that one n C double
Speaker 1: A player Like there's like, yeah, that's my college basketball team.
Speaker 1: Did you watch that live? Yeah? It was on Easter Sunday.
Speaker 1: My whole family we were all watching the game and
Speaker 1: my cousin kept rewinding No. It was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: y'all missed it. Like we're good. We're good because they
Speaker 1: showed it. What yeah, that we have TV showed it once.
Speaker 1: It was not as effective. So yeah, yeah, there is
Speaker 1: some there's some n c A photographers who got some
Speaker 1: high ras photos that I have seen. I remember just
Speaker 1: being on sneaker message boards that then you know, other
Speaker 1: sections would become sports message boards and no, you can't
Speaker 1: rely on those people to censor. And so it was
Speaker 1: like I was scrolling trying to find you know, through
Speaker 1: the like the Adida's uniform thread and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden that started coming up because it was Louisville.
Speaker 1: But all right, well, should take a break. Let's take
Speaker 1: a break, and then we're gonna come right back and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on with her top one of the game.
Speaker 1: And I went to the exciting that's nice, and then
Speaker 1: and then the scandal happened in that chimps gott you raised,
Speaker 1: We're sorry we went on breaks as Rob, I cut
Speaker 1: Rob offic we take a break now, okay, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: we're gone. Now we're back. All right, now we're back.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to get into the topic and Megan
Speaker 1: and Rob please help me out. So I was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the most concise clear away to say
Speaker 1: what this goat topic is the greatest team to never
Speaker 1: win it? All right, but it's like it's like iterations
Speaker 1: of teams. Well, I was doing it as like, um, seasons,
Speaker 1: what do you think it is? Rob? I was I
Speaker 1: was wondering what the criteria was because you can't say it.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's there's some franchises and then there
Speaker 1: are like teams. I was looking at it as teams
Speaker 1: and you know, so they some of their parts have
Speaker 1: went on to win championships. These franchises have won championship,
Speaker 1: but these the particular makeup of you know, the core
Speaker 1: people that I'm talking about, didn't we like For me,
Speaker 1: I like to cross reference with lists, and so obviously
Speaker 1: the that Warriors team that was up three one on
Speaker 1: the calves is on some lists as one of the
Speaker 1: greatest teams. Not at all. But I'm like, you guys
Speaker 1: have enough, you know, like you're not going on my list.
Speaker 1: You yeah, there were people you want a championship multiple one,
Speaker 1: so like you're not gonna be on my list. But
Speaker 1: if there's people that are like they did him, then
Speaker 1: that so I did it? Um, rob, do you feel
Speaker 1: comfortable going first? So you pick your number three? Okay,
Speaker 1: I give my my full three. Just give us your
Speaker 1: bronze medalist. Okay, bronze medalists. Oh man, that is uh
Speaker 1: Irani because my bronze is the oh four United States
Speaker 1: Olympic scene. Yeah. No, I mean just you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like Larry Brown didn't want Lebron to be a problem.
Speaker 1: Could have probably unlocked some things in Lebron earlier, but
Speaker 1: it didn't want to deal with lebron in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson was you know, angry at Larry Brown, and
Speaker 1: you know they lost the first game they played in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. You know they I mean, bronze medal. You
Speaker 1: had lebron On, you had Carmelo, you had two done.
Speaker 1: Can you have rich Jefferson Marberry? Like they had a
Speaker 1: squad but you know, and no, it wasn't the best
Speaker 1: built basketball team, but it was too talented and too
Speaker 1: many people to win on do too many great things
Speaker 1: for them, and that when that's a great pick because
Speaker 1: a lot of times I think that the US has
Speaker 1: been lucky. But you get all this talent onto one
Speaker 1: team and then you don't have the time that you
Speaker 1: have if you are a team within a league, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, oh yeah, it doesn't translate. It can't
Speaker 1: just be all the best guys. There has to be
Speaker 1: some amount of like cohesion and chemistry and and patients
Speaker 1: or whatever are the recipe. And so yeah, Olympic World
Speaker 1: Championship wasn't what was the tournament that they played and
Speaker 1: it was like the international best and they that like
Speaker 1: they've had some embarrassing yeah, yeah, you know too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was an embarrassment man, but you know, still being
Speaker 1: arrogant like the United States is. We're like, just throw
Speaker 1: Lebrin in there, We'll be fine, you know. But I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, with a lot of these guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: Lebron was what coming off as rookie season and so yeah,
Speaker 1: these guys they're playing basketball year round. And we talked
Speaker 1: about like players being like like, do you think Lebron's
Speaker 1: gonna play in this upcoming Olympics. Yeah, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he did. But it is like, truly, man,
Speaker 1: the tolls that some of these guys take. But also
Speaker 1: to that crew was just like, yeah, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: in and stomp on these guys. And they lost to
Speaker 1: Spain and somebody maybe I forget, I want to say Argentina.
Speaker 1: One though, was was Carlos Arroyo on a team that
Speaker 1: they lost to that was I know, like Louis Scolas
Speaker 1: coming out, um somebody, oh oh uh, that wasn't coming
Speaker 1: out for a lot of like what would become international legends.
Speaker 1: M hm. I remember those summertime, going over my friend
Speaker 1: David's house and we watched the games that like one
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon and it was like like Mellow
Speaker 1: and Lebron and them, they didn't even know the international rule,
Speaker 1: like you know, like they didn't even know like, oh,
Speaker 1: you could just golden the balls smaller all that stuff
Speaker 1: that can't have any shooters. Yeah, I should go back
Speaker 1: and rewatch some of those games. That is just funny
Speaker 1: to look. I mean, just to see like Lebron and
Speaker 1: Iverson and all those guys on the same team as crazy.
Speaker 1: That's not because I always watched, not even the game,
Speaker 1: but like the my favorite, one of my favorite clips
Speaker 1: is of like Dwight Howard, Deron Williams and Lebrono those
Speaker 1: guys at the bus stop Wendy's remember that. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why I brought that up.
Speaker 1: That's the greatest team to win it all, all right, Megan,
Speaker 1: your okay? So my third pick is the my most
Speaker 1: recent of all the teams, and it's the two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen Dodgers team because they lost in seven games to
Speaker 1: the Astros and then it was revealed that that was
Speaker 1: the Astros team that was cheating the entire season and
Speaker 1: for sure the postseason. So they did with like it's
Speaker 1: like they went to seven games and they weren't cheating,
Speaker 1: and they were cheating, so they were the better team.
Speaker 1: They should have won. It didn't. Yes, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's and it was close, and they're pissed. They're really,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's why it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: the braves are so cute. Even when I see your hat,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I think of Chipper Jones. I love them.
Speaker 1: I don't fully understand this mix up thing, but I
Speaker 1: like watching them do it. Everybody seems great, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like this Dodgers team that now has new
Speaker 1: parts on it, it's still enough of those seventeen guys.
Speaker 1: That's like, you guys really really really deserve that title,
Speaker 1: and so I hope you get one outright that that
Speaker 1: isn't you know, kind of because they were saying like,
Speaker 1: we don't want to take like even if MLB is like,
Speaker 1: you guys didn't win anymore, it's not going to feel
Speaker 1: like we won because they did actually win, but they
Speaker 1: cheated to win. Oh it's nasty, So that is I mean,
Speaker 1: so what was the punishment? There is like zero punishment.
Speaker 1: The head coach is gone and then the GM is gone.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't something and I think the players have
Speaker 1: been honest about this. It was not, you know how
Speaker 1: bounty Gate. That was definitely Greg Williams. And this was
Speaker 1: not the Astros manager. This was a player kind have
Speaker 1: created and and some of assistants created scam or scheme
Speaker 1: or whatever they want to say, and then the coach
Speaker 1: kind of had to pay the ultimate price even though
Speaker 1: he wasn't the man behind at all. So that's why
Speaker 1: it's I think that's why we're still as mad about
Speaker 1: it because it doesn't Yeah, the Astros got to play
Speaker 1: this entire season with no fans, so they never went
Speaker 1: anywhere where people were hostile towards them, even though they're
Speaker 1: the biggest fucking scammers of the last fifty years and
Speaker 1: sports that, like, you know, the flate gate is nothing
Speaker 1: compared to this, Like it bounty Really, I know that
Speaker 1: that's like fucked up because it hurt people, but it's
Speaker 1: like this really ended up kind of dictating the entire
Speaker 1: outcome of a whole season. Yeah, I was gonna ask,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about cheating like overall, because like
Speaker 1: I don't like by gate to play gate. I don't
Speaker 1: like this Astros thing. I didn't have a problem with
Speaker 1: the Saints. Yeah, because that's not cheating. That's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're doing something that's that's outsore outside of like the
Speaker 1: realm of what is considered good sportsmanship. Perhaps, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: hey we we got a bounty, we got you know,
Speaker 1: money in the pot. Yeah, because the way they played.
Speaker 1: I was like when I was watching those Saints games,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, if I was playing an old quarterback,
Speaker 1: that's what I would do if I you know, Bret
Speaker 1: Harby was like years old, wonder he had all greight hair.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, just go make him one of
Speaker 1: her time. Yeah. I think when Bounty Gate, when that
Speaker 1: like story broke, I think there were a lot of
Speaker 1: former players that were like some version of this, like
Speaker 1: this is a lot of money and this is like
Speaker 1: this is targeted towards like trying to get guys injured.
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's rich too far, but a variation
Speaker 1: of what's happening had you know, like you see Ohio
Speaker 1: State with the Buckeyes on their helmet, it's like, well
Speaker 1: that's from sacks, Like that's about a sticker is a
Speaker 1: bounty in it of itself. It's a reward for tackling
Speaker 1: a person to the ground. So it's probably connected with
Speaker 1: like the inherent in like obvious danger of the sport
Speaker 1: of football since the invention of it. And so they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's I mean, like, listen, we're trying to
Speaker 1: evolve the game a little bit. And they're like, we're
Speaker 1: that you can't do that. But it's just like I
Speaker 1: bet Downey Gate existed so many other places and it
Speaker 1: just wasn't called out or and the Saints were winners,
Speaker 1: they were a good team, and and Sean Payton had
Speaker 1: a reputation. Greg Williams certainly had a reputation. And it's
Speaker 1: it's similar with spygate. It's like, if the Patriots weren't
Speaker 1: the best team, would they have gotten caught doing that?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Deflating Gate, they whooked the Colts
Speaker 1: ass and then the Colts were like they deflated the
Speaker 1: Balls's like, so they are as kicked. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like still fucked up. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: it changed the outcome of the game that much. But
Speaker 1: but if like say you're like married, or someone is
Speaker 1: your uncle, child, whatever, you're related to someone who's on
Speaker 1: the bucks and they get injured by someone and then
Speaker 1: you find out that that player got fifty dollars for
Speaker 1: injuring your dad. I'd be pissed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will.
Speaker 1: I would ask for a cut, definitely. All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're ready, Yeah, I'm ready. So I just my original
Speaker 1: third pick was going to be the late nineties Jazz,
Speaker 1: but now there's like sort of a tie because I
Speaker 1: also want to throw in the mid nineties Magic. So
Speaker 1: mid nineties Magic in late Jazz, and it's because I mean,
Speaker 1: Jordan's the Bulls were just too much. But those were
Speaker 1: legit teams, and like you guys said, like those were
Speaker 1: pretty like iconic Dose or like I think that Magic
Speaker 1: team had more than just Shack and Penny obviously, Nick Anderson,
Speaker 1: Dennis Scott, all those guys, and so truly the only
Speaker 1: reason they didn't win is because they played the greatest,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest, what we're saying, sports teams of
Speaker 1: all times. So I'm gonna say, yeah, mid nineties Magic
Speaker 1: and late late Jazz, this is a way for you
Speaker 1: to still get the Bulls in there. Do you have
Speaker 1: any non basketball picks? Yes, I do. Next is Bulls. No,
Speaker 1: the Bulls can't be honest we'll talk about I see
Speaker 1: what you and I say. That team they said they
Speaker 1: went to the club after they beat the Bulls in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Championship. There wasn't gonna be anybody in
Speaker 1: the final. Do you think they believe that they celebrated
Speaker 1: after Yeah, they were too heavy. I think that's what
Speaker 1: happened to the and was missing free throws. But that
Speaker 1: is the evidence that is like kind of like what
Speaker 1: happened to the Clippers right now. It's like the young
Speaker 1: the veteran like Braun was telling all the guys in
Speaker 1: the bubble right now, like let's chill out, let's win.
Speaker 1: It's like a marathon, Like even if we party right now,
Speaker 1: like it'll it'll show up in like game two if
Speaker 1: we don't like And that's what Shack and Penny as
Speaker 1: the vets of that magic team going up against a
Speaker 1: team and Clyde and all those guys like that's why.
Speaker 1: So see, I think it's more happened to the Nuggets
Speaker 1: in the bubble because you saw how much they celebrated
Speaker 1: after they beat the Clippers, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are celebrating like you just won the championship,
Speaker 1: which is very understandable. You beat they weren't beating the Lakers,
Speaker 1: arguably the best team left. But but there was no
Speaker 1: you know when like you saw the Heat win games
Speaker 1: and you'd see Jimmy be like, they're still more, There's
Speaker 1: still more, There's still more. No one on the Nuggets
Speaker 1: was saying that they were like they were sorry. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go through two, three one leads that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like Murray was playing out of his mind.
Speaker 1: So I understand that. But I just think Shack companion
Speaker 1: that was just too young and you know, and had
Speaker 1: too much juice. Like there was no vet that could
Speaker 1: tell them they were wrong. There were no vet that
Speaker 1: could be like, now we're not going out tonight because
Speaker 1: no one on the team at one, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they needed a little penny to walk in. And he
Speaker 1: was the guy calling everyone. He was he was the
Speaker 1: devil on the shoulder. He said he was two devils.
Speaker 1: He was in a devil costume on both the penny's
Speaker 1: shoulders and said we're gonna go meet up with Tyra
Speaker 1: at the club. But I was gonna say, the only
Speaker 1: player from those teams that I even actually feel bad
Speaker 1: for nowadays is is John Stockton. Like it would have
Speaker 1: been cool to see him get one, but Malone went
Speaker 1: to that Lakers team and that was a bad idea.
Speaker 1: I think John Stockton is probably upset that he does
Speaker 1: not have a ring, but I think being in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and being like a funny white man
Speaker 1: is like pretty cool too, you know, funny as like
Speaker 1: basketball Isaiah Thomas will give him a ring and then
Speaker 1: he can give Asaiah Thomas gold metal. Yeah that's nice. Ad,
Speaker 1: that's nice. Now it's number two picks, so Rob you
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, My number two pick is the team
Speaker 1: that just affected me because I watched them do so well.
Speaker 1: I was so convinced that they were it and then
Speaker 1: they never got it done. And that's the Donovan McNabb Eagles,
Speaker 1: Like they kept losing in the conference championship and then
Speaker 1: they finally got to the super Bowl and then they
Speaker 1: lost and they were like a minute away from like
Speaker 1: taking it front of Patriots if they just had a
Speaker 1: little bit more time on the clock. Like I wonder
Speaker 1: now that Andy Reid has won and looks like he
Speaker 1: could continue to win if Donovan McNabb is like what
Speaker 1: was that me? Because like when the Colts couldn't get
Speaker 1: it done. It was all like, oh, it's Peyton, it's Peyton,
Speaker 1: It's Hayton. So I hoped Donovan feels like proud, like
Speaker 1: I just really liked him, and I feel bad now
Speaker 1: because Andy has got one and we were all like
Speaker 1: really happy for that to happen. I was happy for
Speaker 1: him because I've seen him lose out of time and
Speaker 1: child family seems really difficult. My introduction and Rush Limbough
Speaker 1: was wrestling by saying that don McNab was overrated because
Speaker 1: he's black, and I remember it like, oh man, they
Speaker 1: just let people be racists on N. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a big chapter on that in the
Speaker 1: ESPN book about um. I think it was Tom Jackson
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna do this anymore. If this
Speaker 1: is what it's going to be, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be here. And they were like, okay, Rush will leave,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, that's the right calls. I wanted.
Speaker 1: I wanted Donovan McNabb to like shut him dead un
Speaker 1: so bad. I wanted him to get a ring, just
Speaker 1: just the show wrest Limbo like you don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about and being in Atlanta and watching what
Speaker 1: the Eagles did to the Falcons in the playoffs, like
Speaker 1: seeing Michael Vick go to Lambeau be the first person
Speaker 1: to win in Lambeau in the playoffs, and then immediately
Speaker 1: the next week watched the Eagles just dismantled the Falcons.
Speaker 1: It was like, Oh, this team, you know, it's going
Speaker 1: They're going to be a dynasty. Like forget one year,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like they just lost last year. There,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen again. That happen again and again
Speaker 1: and again. It was crazy. That's why, man, That's what
Speaker 1: football was always so hard for me to fall when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, because I didn't I would believe
Speaker 1: in a team ago there, unstoppable, and then they would
Speaker 1: losing nex week. Yeah, and it's just like there is
Speaker 1: no adjustments, there is no like all right, it's a
Speaker 1: seven game series. Like part of me him is like
Speaker 1: I wish we could see what that would look like
Speaker 1: if there was like a three game series with a
Speaker 1: football team. But people would be dead people. That's why
Speaker 1: they don't do it. I mean, that's why we can't
Speaker 1: see what it is. That's what they're talking about when
Speaker 1: they're coming back with the bubble. They're like the NBA
Speaker 1: if it's like double elimination riven single game elimination, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I don't know if the I think
Speaker 1: who would win the Suns, the Suns would have won
Speaker 1: championship And yeah, right, okay Donovan, Oh gosh, I wish you.
Speaker 1: He had such a fun cribs to everything. Was that
Speaker 1: Eagles green color. Okay, So my second pick, No one
Speaker 1: is gonna like this, um, but it's just it's part
Speaker 1: of a crusade that I'm starting on my own. Um.
Speaker 1: It's a one woman cause for the Malice at the
Speaker 1: Palace team to get the respect that they deserve. And
Speaker 1: so mine is the two thousand two five Pacers team.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was I mean, guys, it's a listen. We
Speaker 1: got we got run our tests. Jermaine O'Neill, Reggie Miller,
Speaker 1: Dale Davis was still there, Stephen Jackson, like every every piece.
Speaker 1: There are people that say that was the best team
Speaker 1: Reggie ever had around him. Um, and it was his
Speaker 1: final year, so he was at the tail end and
Speaker 1: Jermaine O'Neil was like the young star and the earlier
Speaker 1: Pacers teams they couldn't beat the bulls. I wish they
Speaker 1: could have, but they couldn't. But I think this team
Speaker 1: was wow, just had so many different personalities and things
Speaker 1: going on that if they could have harnessed it, it
Speaker 1: would have happened for them. But I hate crime was
Speaker 1: committed at the Palace, so they grew up run our
Speaker 1: test who was laying there trying to deescalate a situation.
Speaker 1: I think he was a white I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: think when we look back at the Malice of the Palace,
Speaker 1: there is a lot of racial like patriot and undertones
Speaker 1: that are happening. It's a white man who threw a
Speaker 1: beer on a black man in Detroit, and then they
Speaker 1: all threw beers at that. I I just don't know
Speaker 1: if that would have happened if it was like a
Speaker 1: like the entitlement of of white suburban Detroit fans, of
Speaker 1: of of NBA fans that they're they're too close, and
Speaker 1: we see it still being an issue. It's like, don't
Speaker 1: touch them, do not speak to them that way. Like
Speaker 1: that is so fucking crazy the way some of these
Speaker 1: fans behave, And I can't believe that after this incident,
Speaker 1: it's like still not in check. I know the security
Speaker 1: is better, but it's like, what the funk are some
Speaker 1: of you people thinking this is crazy that like Warriors
Speaker 1: minority owner who was like grabbing It's just like that's
Speaker 1: that's bad. That's really bad. And I and I I
Speaker 1: don't think at the time we thought that of the
Speaker 1: malice of the palace, but I feel that way now.
Speaker 1: Who who was your coach? Um? It was it was
Speaker 1: either no, Larry Brown was not It wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 1: Larry Bird. It was Ricardi, Rick Carlile, Rick car Less
Speaker 1: to the starters out. Yeah, Rick Carlyle holds some responsibility
Speaker 1: in like how the end of the game was going.
Speaker 1: He said, have took the starts out, but Detroit fired him.
Speaker 1: He built that Detroit team and took that Detroit team,
Speaker 1: you know, further than they thought they could go. And
Speaker 1: then Larry Brown just swooped in. They fired, you know,
Speaker 1: a successful coach. So he probably was trying to run
Speaker 1: up the score on his old squad. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of like weird was it Ben Wallace's remember? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but whenever Artest is going through And also just that
Speaker 1: I think he had a temper problem, which he then
Speaker 1: you know, went through rehabilitation, but it ultimately it ended
Speaker 1: up giving the Lakers another title because send Meta at
Speaker 1: the time then went to the Lakers and hit some
Speaker 1: clutch shots. You don't agree with that, Rob, You're looking
Speaker 1: at me like that's like I'm going to take some
Speaker 1: sort of consolation and that I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: why we let Trevor Reason to go. I never want
Speaker 1: to ununderstand that. I don't think that. You know, we
Speaker 1: had to get run our tests, but you know, it
Speaker 1: ended up working out, so that's cool. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I don't know why they let Trevor Reason.
Speaker 1: They could pay Trevor Reason. Well, guess what, Trevor is
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up on the Lakers somehow. This offseason
Speaker 1: just gonna be something every every off season it's we
Speaker 1: might get back, or that the Lakers might get back
Speaker 1: Trevor Reason. I think this is the year that he
Speaker 1: might go. Okay, all right, I'm sorry. Reggie Miller could
Speaker 1: have like he could fill up this whole bit. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many like paces teams that were still you know,
Speaker 1: it's since they had like one shot at finals shack
Speaker 1: like I'm sad Jalen doesn't have one, you know, like
Speaker 1: there are there are people I'm sad for. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: d Rose Bulls, I'm sorry that like they were they
Speaker 1: were first in the East. Sorry everybody, this this this Rivals,
Speaker 1: your Tom Thibodeaux greatest coach pick for me, for me
Speaker 1: and d Rose and the Bulls. That was that was
Speaker 1: the defense first. That was when Man de Rose m
Speaker 1: v P two thousand eleven almost beat the super team
Speaker 1: that they didn't almost beat the super Team Heat. They
Speaker 1: lost four too, but I don't know, I think they
Speaker 1: were a great team. And then it went a single
Speaker 1: thing and like that's fine, like the one game one
Speaker 1: against the Heat and that that's good. No, we all
Speaker 1: we just taught. We just got off the whole bubble
Speaker 1: where we said Lebron loses game one. I just think
Speaker 1: it's wild to pick the Bulls at all as an organist,
Speaker 1: as an organization, to be on this. We're talking about
Speaker 1: iterations of teams. We're talking about I felt where it's
Speaker 1: if it's like a well, no, I guess I proved
Speaker 1: myself wrong with my number one pick. So that's fine. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's your pick. That's my pick. Okay, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break and we'll come back with our
Speaker 1: number one picks and we are back. That means I'm
Speaker 1: up first. I have, Um my honorable mentions are all
Speaker 1: of the Colts Peyton Manning teams that did not win. No,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm happy they got one. It's fine. My
Speaker 1: number one pick is the two thousand seven Patriots, and like,
Speaker 1: I know they want enough, so it's kind of like
Speaker 1: I'm a hypocrite for what I just said to see Jay,
Speaker 1: but when you look, they were just gonna win, like it.
Speaker 1: It was the most death I've ever seen a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl pick, especially like see like at the beginning of
Speaker 1: this season, you have no idea who's gonna win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and the Chiefs are when it last year
Speaker 1: and they're still good like and there's still uncertainty, and
Speaker 1: this felt like such a certain thing and then them
Speaker 1: to be upset by a wild card team. It was
Speaker 1: just it felt good, but it was wild and um,
Speaker 1: that's my pick. No. I mean, it's funny because I
Speaker 1: remember not wanting him and watched that Super Bowl. Its
Speaker 1: being like that, but that's like a legendary Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's man, I think it is like when when people
Speaker 1: were like looking back on how I felt about the
Speaker 1: Warriors and watching those finals, It's like, I'm glad I
Speaker 1: watched every single one of those because there is that
Speaker 1: part of them and it's like, oh, if you beat
Speaker 1: this team, that is that is incredible. That like that's
Speaker 1: what made the lebron two thousand sixteen and the finals
Speaker 1: one of the greatest sporting events of all time. It's
Speaker 1: like because just the odds weren't were insane. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but boy, I was excited to see the
Speaker 1: Patriots lose. This is this is like the greatest team
Speaker 1: to lose, like feel good? Why still? But when I
Speaker 1: met uh Michael straighthand I was like, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for beating like out of nowhere. He's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're welcome, because like I hate the Patriots with the
Speaker 1: passion being a Raiders fan, like being like a fan
Speaker 1: of just like humanity, Like the Tough Rule was the
Speaker 1: worst That Tough Rule game. It was snowing and you
Speaker 1: know it shouldn't have happened. The Raiders was supposed to win,
Speaker 1: like Jon Gruden and Jenna left like that, Like like
Speaker 1: the whole NFL would have been different if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for the tough rule. So I feel like the Patriots
Speaker 1: is built on a lot. You can't tell me Michael
Speaker 1: Biggs not better than Tom Brady. That's just like like
Speaker 1: the type of world where I live in. Um So,
Speaker 1: I'm just I just hate the Patriots. I I can't
Speaker 1: give them credit for anything. I would argue to death
Speaker 1: that Joe Montana is better than Tom Brady, Like I'm
Speaker 1: that guy. So like this was this was great that
Speaker 1: it had that blemish on the record. You know, the
Speaker 1: only thing that sucks is I wish Randy Moss got it.
Speaker 1: That's the only part that sucks is that I felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's in the back for Randy Aboss to get a ring.
Speaker 1: But also so he didn't play like he played with
Speaker 1: them when he played with the Raiders, you know, definitely
Speaker 1: did not when it was time for him to run
Speaker 1: on that baseball field, he was not feeling it. How
Speaker 1: would you feel if if Tom and Gronk one one
Speaker 1: with the Bucks. I don't know, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if I hate him as much as I hate the Patriots.
Speaker 1: That's what I love him, But I hate the Patriots.
Speaker 1: So I'm in I'm in a weird just place all together,
Speaker 1: you know. Megan and I had that convo or like, well,
Speaker 1: I still don't know because I Belichick is still with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and so that's that's a symbol and and
Speaker 1: and what I don't like about I would say a
Speaker 1: majority of Patriots fans still exists, you know, like they yeah,
Speaker 1: they seemed like Trump voters, you know, like they seem
Speaker 1: very trumpy to me. So it's like not a fan
Speaker 1: base that I mean, like that's what I like. Love
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They're my like second favorite a FC team,
Speaker 1: I guess all the Bills, but like watching them boo
Speaker 1: the fans, boo the unity in the first game, I
Speaker 1: was like, now, I kind of don't want you guys
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl because your fans are shitty.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I guess a lot of fans are shitty.
Speaker 1: You know. Part of me, I'm I'm rooting for Tom
Speaker 1: Brady just again to like because a lot of because
Speaker 1: one he's played he's what forty two forty two right now,
Speaker 1: and that's insane, and just that he's like his methods
Speaker 1: to can tenure to play, and I want him to win.
Speaker 1: So it does look like it's not that much of
Speaker 1: a Belichick and Patriots thing. It's like a Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is that incredible? And there's part of me like I
Speaker 1: do enjoy watching him play. Um, I really enjoyed watching
Speaker 1: him not know what doubt and it was that was
Speaker 1: really funny, I mean, and then him dragging his team.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the type of messy I've
Speaker 1: been wanting to make fun of this fucking loser for
Speaker 1: but he's been insulated by this Patriots way. And it's like, listen,
Speaker 1: Bruce arians he'll fucking hanging out to dry and he's not.
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't, but he's not gonna shelter you
Speaker 1: the way that that Belichick does. So that's like been
Speaker 1: like him struggling has been enjoyable. I know that's sucked up,
Speaker 1: all right, Uh, continue on. We talked about it earlier
Speaker 1: about partying during you know, before crucial after crucial games.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, and I don't know that much
Speaker 1: about this team. I just got hip to it like
Speaker 1: a few years ago. But the through Buffalo Bills is
Speaker 1: still like it's almost so painful for any person who
Speaker 1: watched sports at all, my parents. Yeah, to know that
Speaker 1: a team went to the super Bowl four times in
Speaker 1: a row and lost every time. And the thing it was,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like there were there were different Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: teams within that. It was like, you know, they partied,
Speaker 1: so they were too young or too mature. Then the
Speaker 1: other team that was focused and they just like look
Speaker 1: like I don't know the yeah, the miss kick, well yeah,
Speaker 1: what was that guy's name? I forget, but that like
Speaker 1: I feel bad for that guy. He seems like like
Speaker 1: a he has like a buckner in him. But I
Speaker 1: don't think my dad has been the same since. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I remember going to rob My parents are
Speaker 1: from outside of Buffalo and so they were They were
Speaker 1: massive Buffalo Bills fans, like loved O J. Growing up.
Speaker 1: We should call my aunt Jane a J after O J.
Speaker 1: We stopped that, um, but like they we remember my
Speaker 1: mom stenciling a Bill's thing on my face and going
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl party and another girl wiping the
Speaker 1: Bill's logo off my face because they were so bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like not traumatic, but like my parents,
Speaker 1: my dad loved the Bills so much and to watch
Speaker 1: them lose the fourth time, he just was like, I
Speaker 1: don't I can't do this anymore. I think you get
Speaker 1: an option. I think you get an option after that.
Speaker 1: And I love Jim Kelly too. I mean he is
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was at the Spece when you were.
Speaker 1: He's at every spec. You're just like it's gut wrenching
Speaker 1: and and his family is really and so like you
Speaker 1: want someone like him to have a ring. And the
Speaker 1: fans those seem like real ass fans. Do they vote
Speaker 1: for Trump probably, but they're like in the cold, they
Speaker 1: they're they'll be like too in fourteen and they're like,
Speaker 1: we fucking love you guys. It's their own show, like
Speaker 1: tailgating show where they each other into tables. They started
Speaker 1: a Buffalo wing Yeah, my dad, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like like, come on, man, without them, my life absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely without Buffalo wings, Buffalo Flavor, Buffalo sauce, come on,
Speaker 1: come on. I went to Anchor Bar where they made
Speaker 1: I was in Buffalo, and I was like, these are good.
Speaker 1: They haven't I have my parents who listened to this podcast.
Speaker 1: They are going to be so excited that you said
Speaker 1: Anchor Bar. They get like when someone says like buffalo
Speaker 1: wings they're like, well, Anchor, but they gotta let everybody know.
Speaker 1: My grandfather had those buffalo wings right before he had
Speaker 1: open heart surgery. He had my mom like sneak them
Speaker 1: into the hospital. Well he was a doctor, he said,
Speaker 1: I prescribed these to myself, and so she went to
Speaker 1: Anchor Bar and got like fried Zucchinian buffalo wings for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're opening it up and sucking it out. You
Speaker 1: might as well. And the Bills are good this year.
Speaker 1: They're one of those teams that haven't like people. No
Speaker 1: one would have any problem with the Bill's winning. One
Speaker 1: like would be like that's like, yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: really I know Josh Allen is on the team, and okay,
Speaker 1: like they're good. They're good. Yeah, they are good. Yeah
Speaker 1: all right, Rob, bring us home with your number one pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: my number one pick. Um, I mean my honorable mention.
Speaker 1: I would say, are the h that Mariners team with
Speaker 1: a ride and King Griffy just because just thinking about
Speaker 1: like what they did after and just you know, um,
Speaker 1: and then the Bills was also of my honorable mention.
Speaker 1: But I figured somebody's gonna build this conversation. My number
Speaker 1: one's gotta be the thunder hardened. Like if they pay
Speaker 1: hard in four million dollars in twenty more than what
Speaker 1: they offered him, they couldn't had three m VP s
Speaker 1: on one team. There would be no step there. They
Speaker 1: were already like an inch from beating the Spurs Inten
Speaker 1: without harding. So it's just like there would be no Kauai,
Speaker 1: there would be no Danny Green. There would be like
Speaker 1: like everything would be different. So many Drake lines wouldn't exist.
Speaker 1: Step Curry wouldn't have the life he has, wouldn't know
Speaker 1: how I eased the Curry feels about how women dressed,
Speaker 1: like so many things that we know in culture today,
Speaker 1: those chef Curry shoes, we wouldn't even think about those,
Speaker 1: Like so many things would be different if that team
Speaker 1: would to stay together, sir to Vodka, you know would yes,
Speaker 1: because their injuries, Durant goes down and Westbrook goes down,
Speaker 1: which it gives Harden the opportunity to be come part
Speaker 1: in your podcast guest Derek Fisher, was you know could
Speaker 1: have been a leader on the I mean those come on,
Speaker 1: I really think those teams was hy. They really had
Speaker 1: a lot of potential and and pardon afterwards, like like
Speaker 1: those first years in Houston was like I never saw
Speaker 1: myself as a starter, like I saw myself as a
Speaker 1: sixth man like Harden would have would have. He was
Speaker 1: secure in that role and that's important. You know, it's
Speaker 1: one thing to place somebody is the six man, something
Speaker 1: else for him to be secure in there. And then
Speaker 1: also party can run too. It could be it could
Speaker 1: have been Westbrook, Harding Durant and the craziest front court,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of what we saw in Durank went
Speaker 1: to the Warriors, and like, those guys aren't done yet,
Speaker 1: so like the legacy of that team continues to grow.
Speaker 1: Could win another one, um, they could all win somewhere,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna tell our kids those three guys
Speaker 1: were all on a team together and they didn't win,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be like what that's like yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna go. But what about that Rockets team when
Speaker 1: Russ and Harden were together? How come they were Like
Speaker 1: That's the thing is like it was something about that
Speaker 1: time too. It was like you said, it was like
Speaker 1: Harden was secure in that role and did not know
Speaker 1: he could be this hardened. So like I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: he knew a little bit of the Spurs team they
Speaker 1: beat in the Western Conference Finals one eleven straight games,
Speaker 1: like they were about to do some like oh one
Speaker 1: Lakers type of stuff like, and then they dropped four
Speaker 1: straight to that that Thunder team, and then um, you
Speaker 1: know they I mean they were going back with the Spurs.
Speaker 1: They would have been rivals with the Heat or the
Speaker 1: Calves or both, you know, I mean, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great pick um. All right, Well, Rob, how
Speaker 1: are you? How are you feeling about the game right now?
Speaker 1: The Braves games that Arlington, Texas? What is what is
Speaker 1: the origin of mix it up? I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know how mix it up got started?
Speaker 1: That's what it's called. Is it? Like we'll just take
Speaker 1: where we're a team with a bunch of different guys
Speaker 1: that are good and no matter what the lineup is,
Speaker 1: we're gonna win that. That's like put this guy in
Speaker 1: shorcare to me? It's like cooking, Like every time I
Speaker 1: see them do it, it's like after a good place.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like they're cooking. They're cooking them
Speaker 1: a little bit like a like a harden or like
Speaker 1: a chef curry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, t could be another
Speaker 1: thing too. All right, well, Rob, where can we where
Speaker 1: can we find? You're writing for Sherman's Showcase right now? Again?
Speaker 1: New season coming out soon, actually, the seasoning coming out.
Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for that if you haven't watched it.
Speaker 1: It's a Hulu. It's on AMC Plus and Pluto TV
Speaker 1: has an i f C channel on there. You might
Speaker 1: catch it on there too if you only got the
Speaker 1: free channels. Um Man, I I appreciate you having me
Speaker 1: on on your podcast. Y'all are like family, you know.
Speaker 1: I love her. I follow her on Instagram, still with
Speaker 1: the saying Montreal play me and c J. We did
Speaker 1: that pilot well, ice Cube, and I really think you
Speaker 1: got through to him. I can't have any association even
Speaker 1: though all week I have been playing. Today was a
Speaker 1: good day because to me that is the Lakers team.
Speaker 1: But then it's like he's not helping every new thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I don't think we could but no,
Speaker 1: but left Co was over here for for Game five
Speaker 1: and I was I thought we were gonna have no
Speaker 1: questions asked. I told him and he was excited to
Speaker 1: see you. Damn Yeah, but check that out. What that
Speaker 1: was called? No questions asked, right, it was called good
Speaker 1: question now glints asked that would have been wou It
Speaker 1: may not have just been a pilot then, you know.
Speaker 1: But our other projects Motherland you can come check out
Speaker 1: if the pandemic is ever over, which you know, Rob
Speaker 1: and I and Megan, we all we all managed to
Speaker 1: work together or be in the same buildings. Um. But
Speaker 1: thank you so much Rob for for being on the show.
Speaker 1: You can find me at at c J Toldano Rob,
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