WEBVTT - Greatest Teams to Never Win It All with Rob Haze 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.680 Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.800 All right, welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.440 your host, c J. Tolodano, and I'm joined by our 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.800 other host, Vic and Gaily, my wife and co host. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.200 How are you doing. I'm doing well well. So we're 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:27.880 we're recording this on the eve of Sunday Game seven 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.760 of Dodgers Braves and I totally forgot our guest has 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.240 many credits, but we've been selling. I just celebrated a 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.199 little bit of a Lakers victory with him a few 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.640 days ago over a podcast, and now we're about to 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.040 have him on writer for Sherman's Showcase. He's done all 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.040 the late night shows. What else you've written for the sps? Oh? Yeah, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:54.640 you guys run on the SPS together, different experiences, more gossip. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:56.440 Maybe we can get some of those stories out. But 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:02.240 ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Rob Hayes. Wow is own 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:07.840 hype man? Love that Rob? Did you imagine that you 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.279 would be in this position over the last few weeks 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.840 where you be potentially watching I mean you watch the Lakers, 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.640 your favorite NBA team, wining and potentially seeing your your 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.920 braves go on the World Series. No, I I had 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.800 no clue that. Yeah, I don't think I never imagined 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:29.520 in the NBA Final October. So yeah, it really is thrown. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.759 It's thrown me off. Everything like sports is I found 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.160 out is like my biological clock and like ship is 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.880 funky in my brain right now because of it all. Yeah, 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.640 well you feel like you're gonna be pregnant if like 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.960 you gotta get pregnant by a certain time because the 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.080 sports I mean yea, like when the athletes, they're like, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.680 well every every like football player gets married in the 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.520 same month because it's like the one month that they 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.040 are able to love that yea. But yeah, and so 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.280 that's how c J meals. But he has no on court, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.560 on field requirements. I'm like coming down from this week 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.600 from like the Lakers championship, even though like they they 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.320 just I just saw a video of them in Vegas. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.200 Did you see this video, Rob, No. I remember the 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.040 Cavs video in Vegas, so I figured they probably went 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.760 to Vegas, but I didn't see the video. Vegas seems 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.640 like the place in the country most willing to turn 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.880 up and least willing to mask up, you know, So 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.200 like I think you can to go to Florida. It's like, guys, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.200 what are you doing? But to go to Vegas right now? 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.920 You're like, okay, yeah, I guess if you already have 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.360 COVID and you want a party and you've been locked 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.440 away for four months, that's where you would go to party. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.320 I think the thought processes is so high outside, Like 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.840 if I get it in and I walk outside and 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.600 kill it, like go just boil it off. It is 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.040 hard to tell, Like, how do you tell a team 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.680 that just maybe won one of the hard this NBA 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:07.400 titles that COVID it's still anywhere. I'm sure there's precautions. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.800 Did they okay, sure, did they invite everybody? Well? I 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.440 just saw an influencer at the party, and I want 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.680 I mean again, my priorities are out of whack because 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.400 I was like, how come, how do how do I 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.200 get that in? How do I get to that level 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.280 where I get to go? Because this dude, I mean, yeah, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.239 I'm not gonna name names, but it's just like really 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.240 he gets to stand next to the trophy and get 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:32.359 a selfie at the day club party for the Lakers. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:38.360 But but yeah, but also I saw yeah, I'm not no, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.400 I mean if, like I said, if you send it 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.240 to your mom who lived in Vegas, and she was like, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.280 this is not good. They should not be here. I 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.760 felt like it was necessary in twice sixth thing because 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.000 they probably won so many people money the we wearing 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.000 in the pandemic. But I remember my father being so 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.720 mad at them for not going right back to Cleveland, 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.960 and he was like, they owe it to the people 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.720 of Cleveland. They might have been waiting up all night 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:10.240 they stopped like yo, but they leave the bubble and 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.480 go to Vegas. Is crazy to be like the safest 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:19.240 situation possible and just go where people all right, from 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.479 all of the country go that don't care about man's insane. Yeah. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.120 I mean if they, if any of them do get it, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.160 it's like, yeah, it shows that's very real. Like they 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.240 were in the safer spot and now they there there 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.240 and they got it. But how how have you been 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.360 celebrating this week? Rob would have been some of the ways. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.520 I know we were talking about merch, but I'm curious 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.560 how you've been celebrating the Lakers. One, Um, I got 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.520 my hat in the mail yesterday. But I've just been 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.919 you know, I've been calling my friends who were Lebron 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.880 fans that were mad they who went to Los Angeles. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.800 I mean, you know, talking to my fellow Laker fans, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.120 my Laker fan friends that were van Lebron came to 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:02.039 the team because I always is appreciated Lebron. I always 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.800 loved the Lakers. So it's just like a perfect marriage 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.800 to me. But everybody didn't feel like that. So yeah, no, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:13.400 I I've really been having a great sports week up 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.839 until Georgia losing yesterday. That kind of hurt because Georgia 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.760 was undefeated. The Lakers won the championship, the Raiders beat 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:28.240 the Chiefs. I'm all over the place. That's yeah, that's 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.920 like the Raiders Chiefs. One is really, why why is 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:37.440 it that you are a brave span where you're from Atlanta, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:42.320 but then your football and basketball team are non Atlanta. Okay, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:48.000 So we lived in Orlando from when I was one 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:54.400 until I was like seven. So when Shack moved to 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.040 l a Is the same time we moved back to Atlanta. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.640 One of Atlanta moved x Atlanta. So in my head, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.919 me being a kid, I'm thinking, all right, who knows, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.000 we might keep moving, So I'm just donning like my 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.200 fanship is just gonna go with Shaq. I always wanted 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.240 to be an actor, always wanted to be an entertainment 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.440 even that young. So I was like, Yo, I'm I'm 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.479 gonna be out there anyway, I might as well be 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.320 a wow. Even at seven, you were like, I'll see you, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:30.440 I'll see you someday. Oh. I was like themselves at 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.359 the game. That's where I'm getting. That's where I'm supposed 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.640 to be, you know. Jack Nicholson me like, yeah, That's 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.279 how I always thought. So I've always been a Laker fan. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.760 My father has always been. He's from my family's from Louisville, Kentucky. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:53.520 My father didn't grow up with a NFL franchise, so 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.719 him and all his friends just picked teams. One of 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.920 his friends of Cowboys fans, one of his friends of 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:04.480 Brown's fan. He's a Raiders fan. And when I was 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.640 in middle school, he had a job where he was 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:13.080 like working on the road during the week and then 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.080 we would really only see him on the weekend. So 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:21.680 the last thing I wanted to do was speaker about football, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.680 and that's like one of the days we had together. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.640 So then I became a Raiders fan. Became a Raiders 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.400 span in oh one, we had two seasons where we 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.920 were good and then the rest is been like, Oh, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.840 this is what being a Raiders span is really like. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.440 So yeah, so what what location for the Raiders do 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.960 you prefer? And how do you what do you think 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.160 about this this current one? The black Holes, I was 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.760 gonna have a special place in my heart because I 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.320 was able to take my dad there for his birthday. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.520 So I'm always gonna like, uh, you know, um my 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.760 father passed, So I always like like think of the 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.680 black Hole as like you know, like that's got of 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:13.960 like special memory and stuff. But being uh East Coast 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.600 Raiders fan, they only got to see them, like you 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.720 know when they came to Atlanta for preseason or you know, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.120 the one occasional game or we drove up to Tennessee 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.880 to see them, and like, uh, it really doesn't matter. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.800 So I'm cool with, you know, going to Vegas and 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.120 in supporting the Vegas Raiders. Yeah, I feel bad for 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.880 the die hard. I mean, when you think of Raiders fans, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.200 it's like that's one of the most loyal fan bases, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:47.880 and you see Raiders fans everywhere truly, but the Oakland 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.080 and like all of that I mean, and some of 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.719 the season's Last Chance you gave me like a new 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.960 appreciation of it. But I do really it just sucks. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.079 I wash Vegas and gotten I think the Vegas Nights. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.840 It's like, let's start there and and maybe that's enough 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.400 for them. And they have a w NBA team, But 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.520 you were saying they're the owner is actually like doing 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.000 a great job. I've turned around on Mark Davis. I 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.600 you look at him and you go, this cannot be good, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.880 and then everything he does you're like, you know, like 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.600 he didn't they have the new stadium. Obviously he didn't 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.800 go to the home opener because he was like, if 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.040 fans can't be here, then I don't think I should 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:32.000 be here, which like, oh, that that's really nice for 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.920 a billionaire to say. That's like not he's been really 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:41.920 strict about masks. He seems like a good guy despite 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.440 his hair cut only very surface and that's on me 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.120 for being a jerk, but yeah, his Haircuse. I mean, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.720 when you say NFL owner and you're not, like, I 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.679 bet he's a good guy, it's like it's not a 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.920 crew of like awesome human beings. It's just not that's 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.960 on them. That's not really on our of um stereotyping 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.520 of them. They could be better. Yeah, I mean I 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.840 feel like the Beatles are beloved and they had the 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:16.600 same haircut, and you know it's albums, all those number 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.839 one and then someone tries to bring the Beatles style 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.959 back and then it's like, oh, look it's crazy man. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.760 When you know, really, come on, that's a whole generation 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:30.959 grew up on the Beatles. Paul changed his haircut. Their 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.240 hair was thicker. You know, he's got really a thin 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:39.199 he's got a thin, whispy blonde bang, and they had 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:43.360 a really nice, thick, dark bang. I mean, you tell 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:48.160 me to to extreme redheads running that organization is is 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.959 pretty intense. Oh, Grooden looks wild too. I mean I 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.600 remember the first iteration. When he was with the Raiders, 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:59.679 they would put Chucky up on because he does you know, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.800 he's he's funny. C J knows that. I love when 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.199 fan when Frank Kelly Indo plays fat John Grooden love it. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.040 But he doesn't call it fat. He doesn't call it 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.360 fat John groud No, no one does. It's not nice. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:18.440 It's not nice for me to say that. Ye are 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.880 his facial expressions but that's not his face, you know. Yeah, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.800 when did you go on Frank Kelly Indo's notes and 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.559 it's like him all his characters is like John g 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:36.120 John Man. He's just an honest man. He doesn't want 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.280 to listen. I would say John Madden. John Madden is 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.120 one of his best ones because it's like, you guys 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.760 are comfortable, your faces are the same size. That that's 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.680 a that's but he does someone he was doing like 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.559 Kevin Spacey and it's like, dog you that's not possible 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.560 for you. I can't, I can't. It was pre it 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.600 was pretty, It was pretty. Yeah. Somebody asked me recently 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.960 to like what kind of sports stand up do you tell? 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.760 And I was like, what are you talking about? And 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.320 They're like, you're like a sports comedian, right, and I'm 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.040 like no, I mean yeah, like I wear just just 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.160 the clothes I wear. I just wear like sneakers and 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.560 NBA stuff. That's good that they've never seen your acts. Yeah, no, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.320 I mean, likecent of people will follow me on Twitter 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.520 with social media. I've never seen my It does seem 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.600 like you would have two entire albums dedicated to nineties 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.360 bulls at this point. Yeah. Yeah, like punch him in 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.640 the face. I punched Steve Kerr in the fact, I 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.200 don't know what you're doing to me. I have some 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.400 sports jokes, but you gotta muscle to crowd into it. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.200 Like you could never ask the crowd a sports question, right, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.040 You just have to pretend like they know exactly what 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.960 you need. Like it's almost like, you know, you could 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.840 just gotta assume. Like I had a joke about Gordon 0:12:55.960 --> 0:13:00.520 Hayward when he got injured and the hashtag pray for 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.240 Gordon Hayward, because I thought that was that was a 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.280 bit late, you know, like like you know, like like 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:12.920 prey prepares right right now, we're prying up for Gordon Hayward, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.120 you know. And I just was like, if you know, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.200 if I made as much as Gordon Hayward, like it 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.960 wouldn't matter, like just you have my whole Like I 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.319 was like going to had cap my whole leg I 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.120 would just be they had an injury. They had an 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.240 injury timetable for him within hours, they said, like sixt 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.280 eight months. There was no timetable for the other hashtags 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.640 out there. You know. I love the brotherhood of people 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.160 who have had bones completely pop out of their body. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.040 And then they're like, like Gordon Hayward was tweeting at 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.440 DOC last week, like let me know if you need anything, 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.160 Like they've got like a food train just for people 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.360 whose legs have snapped in half. It's like, listen, I 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.320 talked to Paul George. It's like, okay, he talked to 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.839 Paul George. I talked to Gordon. Okay, he talked to 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.800 in Heyward. I talked to that one n C double 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:12.480 A player Like there's like, yeah, that's my college basketball team. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.880 Did you watch that live? Yeah? It was on Easter Sunday. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.280 My whole family we were all watching the game and 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.800 my cousin kept rewinding No. It was like, oh no, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.880 y'all missed it. Like we're good. We're good because they 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.680 showed it. What yeah, that we have TV showed it once. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.200 It was not as effective. So yeah, yeah, there is 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.400 some there's some n c A photographers who got some 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.160 high ras photos that I have seen. I remember just 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.800 being on sneaker message boards that then you know, other 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:49.160 sections would become sports message boards and no, you can't 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.120 rely on those people to censor. And so it was 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.240 like I was scrolling trying to find you know, through 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.920 the like the Adida's uniform thread and then all of 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.640 a sudden that started coming up because it was Louisville. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.400 But all right, well, should take a break. Let's take 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:04.720 a break, and then we're gonna come right back and 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.680 we're gonna go on with her top one of the game. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:15.200 And I went to the exciting that's nice, and then 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.120 and then the scandal happened in that chimps gott you raised, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.280 We're sorry we went on breaks as Rob, I cut 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.480 Rob offic we take a break now, okay, okay, wait, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:40.280 we're gone. Now we're back. All right, now we're back. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.280 Now we're going to get into the topic and Megan 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.320 and Rob please help me out. So I was trying 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.520 to figure out the most concise clear away to say 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.680 what this goat topic is the greatest team to never 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.480 win it? All right, but it's like it's like iterations 0:15:55.520 --> 0:16:01.400 of teams. Well, I was doing it as like, um, seasons, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.320 what do you think it is? Rob? I was I 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:09.400 was wondering what the criteria was because you can't say it. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:14.720 And you know, there's there's some franchises and then there 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.440 are like teams. I was looking at it as teams 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.800 and you know, so they some of their parts have 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:29.080 went on to win championships. These franchises have won championship, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.960 but these the particular makeup of you know, the core 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.080 people that I'm talking about, didn't we like For me, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.640 I like to cross reference with lists, and so obviously 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.160 the that Warriors team that was up three one on 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.920 the calves is on some lists as one of the 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.720 greatest teams. Not at all. But I'm like, you guys 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.080 have enough, you know, like you're not going on my list. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.440 You yeah, there were people you want a championship multiple one, 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.520 so like you're not gonna be on my list. But 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.800 if there's people that are like they did him, then 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.960 that so I did it? Um, rob, do you feel 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.879 comfortable going first? So you pick your number three? Okay, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.679 I give my my full three. Just give us your 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:18.680 bronze medalist. Okay, bronze medalists. Oh man, that is uh 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:25.040 Irani because my bronze is the oh four United States 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:33.320 Olympic scene. Yeah. No, I mean just you know, I 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.320 feel like Larry Brown didn't want Lebron to be a problem. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.159 Could have probably unlocked some things in Lebron earlier, but 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.920 it didn't want to deal with lebron in the playoffs. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.480 Alan Iverson was you know, angry at Larry Brown, and 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.879 you know they lost the first game they played in 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.359 Puerto Rico. You know they I mean, bronze medal. You 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.080 had lebron On, you had Carmelo, you had two done. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:07.399 Can you have rich Jefferson Marberry? Like they had a 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:12.120 squad but you know, and no, it wasn't the best 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.120 built basketball team, but it was too talented and too 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.240 many people to win on do too many great things 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:24.800 for them, and that when that's a great pick because 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.080 a lot of times I think that the US has 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.600 been lucky. But you get all this talent onto one 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.679 team and then you don't have the time that you 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.560 have if you are a team within a league, and 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.320 so it's like, oh yeah, it doesn't translate. It can't 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.159 just be all the best guys. There has to be 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.920 some amount of like cohesion and chemistry and and patients 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.840 or whatever are the recipe. And so yeah, Olympic World 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:57.480 Championship wasn't what was the tournament that they played and 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.880 it was like the international best and they that like 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:07.000 they've had some embarrassing yeah, yeah, you know too. Yeah, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:13.840 that was an embarrassment man, but you know, still being 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.080 arrogant like the United States is. We're like, just throw 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.080 Lebrin in there, We'll be fine, you know. But I 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.399 mean yeah, with a lot of these guys, I mean, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:27.440 Lebron was what coming off as rookie season and so yeah, 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.320 these guys they're playing basketball year round. And we talked 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.960 about like players being like like, do you think Lebron's 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:38.359 gonna play in this upcoming Olympics. Yeah, well, you know what, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.880 I wouldn't be surprised if he did. But it is like, truly, man, 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.040 the tolls that some of these guys take. But also 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.320 to that crew was just like, yeah, we're gonna go 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.080 in and stomp on these guys. And they lost to 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:56.440 Spain and somebody maybe I forget, I want to say Argentina. 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:01.000 One though, was was Carlos Arroyo on a team that 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:06.959 they lost to that was I know, like Louis Scolas 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:18.880 coming out, um somebody, oh oh uh, that wasn't coming 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.520 out for a lot of like what would become international legends. 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.679 M hm. I remember those summertime, going over my friend 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.480 David's house and we watched the games that like one 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.960 o'clock in the afternoon and it was like like Mellow 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.000 and Lebron and them, they didn't even know the international rule, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.080 like you know, like they didn't even know like, oh, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.760 you could just golden the balls smaller all that stuff 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.840 that can't have any shooters. Yeah, I should go back 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.920 and rewatch some of those games. That is just funny 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.040 to look. I mean, just to see like Lebron and 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.560 Iverson and all those guys on the same team as crazy. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.280 That's not because I always watched, not even the game, 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.240 but like the my favorite, one of my favorite clips 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.480 is of like Dwight Howard, Deron Williams and Lebrono those 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:12.440 guys at the bus stop Wendy's remember that. I don't 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:13.879 know why. I don't know why I brought that up. 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.080 That's the greatest team to win it all, all right, Megan, 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.040 your okay? So my third pick is the my most 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.399 recent of all the teams, and it's the two thousand 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:28.200 seventeen Dodgers team because they lost in seven games to 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:32.480 the Astros and then it was revealed that that was 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.800 the Astros team that was cheating the entire season and 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.480 for sure the postseason. So they did with like it's 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.800 like they went to seven games and they weren't cheating, 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.760 and they were cheating, so they were the better team. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:49.800 They should have won. It didn't. Yes, yeah, I mean 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.320 that's and it was close, and they're pissed. They're really, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.000 I mean, and that's why it's like, oh my god, 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:55.800 the braves are so cute. Even when I see your hat, 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.440 I'm like, oh, I think of Chipper Jones. I love them. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.560 I don't fully understand this mix up thing, but I 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.920 like watching them do it. Everybody seems great, but I 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.520 just feel like this Dodgers team that now has new 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.960 parts on it, it's still enough of those seventeen guys. 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:16.680 That's like, you guys really really really deserve that title, 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.040 and so I hope you get one outright that that 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.199 isn't you know, kind of because they were saying like, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.479 we don't want to take like even if MLB is like, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.680 you guys didn't win anymore, it's not going to feel 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.679 like we won because they did actually win, but they 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.680 cheated to win. Oh it's nasty, So that is I mean, 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.520 so what was the punishment? There is like zero punishment. 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.399 The head coach is gone and then the GM is gone. 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.639 But it wasn't something and I think the players have 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.360 been honest about this. It was not, you know how 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.800 bounty Gate. That was definitely Greg Williams. And this was 0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:00.159 not the Astros manager. This was a player kind have 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:05.840 created and and some of assistants created scam or scheme 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.240 or whatever they want to say, and then the coach 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.120 kind of had to pay the ultimate price even though 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.240 he wasn't the man behind at all. So that's why 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.040 it's I think that's why we're still as mad about 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.120 it because it doesn't Yeah, the Astros got to play 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.320 this entire season with no fans, so they never went 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.720 anywhere where people were hostile towards them, even though they're 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.879 the biggest fucking scammers of the last fifty years and 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.840 sports that, like, you know, the flate gate is nothing 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.359 compared to this, Like it bounty Really, I know that 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.240 that's like fucked up because it hurt people, but it's 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:45.919 like this really ended up kind of dictating the entire 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:50.720 outcome of a whole season. Yeah, I was gonna ask, 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:55.720 how do you feel about cheating like overall, because like 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.840 I don't like by gate to play gate. I don't 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.439 like this Astros thing. I didn't have a problem with 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:09.640 the Saints. Yeah, because that's not cheating. That's just like, hey, 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:14.000 we're doing something that's that's outsore outside of like the 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:20.280 realm of what is considered good sportsmanship. Perhaps, Yeah, like 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.760 hey we we got a bounty, we got you know, 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.600 money in the pot. Yeah, because the way they played. 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.720 I was like when I was watching those Saints games, 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.840 I was like, yeah, if I was playing an old quarterback, 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.959 that's what I would do if I you know, Bret 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:40.760 Harby was like years old, wonder he had all greight hair. 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.720 It was like, yeah, just go make him one of 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.639 her time. Yeah. I think when Bounty Gate, when that 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.199 like story broke, I think there were a lot of 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.240 former players that were like some version of this, like 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.240 this is a lot of money and this is like 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.400