WEBVTT - Conversations About Ice Cube's Journey 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.520 Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:16.640 load glasses Malone. Now, what know what happened is Quiz 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:21.880 had put out an album. Yep, so it's like this 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.759 doomie you feel me like like we get thirty thousty 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.840 thousand down loads a week or whatever it is. Quiz 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.840 put out an album that makes sense right to make 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.760 sure that we do a podcast. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.160 With Quiz without a doubt. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.120 So it makes sense to me, right. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.360 And then Monday, Wednesday and Friday, the live Lunch album 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.800 was to help digital soapbox. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.160 What are you squinting that? Bro? 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.440 So? No, I'm looking at something. I'm trying to see 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:47.080 something right there? 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.280 You know a computer. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.560 Screen that's two feet in front of your face? 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.559 Did you know we could do this in four K? 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:54.240 We wanted to. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.040 No, I didn't know that's tight though. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.280 I'm gonna see. I'm gonna try to put it up 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.800 on there is your I don't know. Peter's thing might start. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.959 It's cool. The higher the K the older I look, 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:06.280 so let's keep it going. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.800 So it's just mandatory you bring queiers on the pot. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.280 That just makes sense, Like you use your platforms to 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.280 help your people. Like you, you don't really do that 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.279 for your people still, but this is how poor people. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.319 You don't have to do that for my people all 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.920 the time. I always always mentioned people. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.400 Still still on, still on everything, still poor as nigga, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:37.120 help yourself. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:38.880 You pull yourself up by your bootstrap. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.760 No, man, Shoot, I got so much man, you know 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.520 what I'm gonna tell you something. Man, the older you get, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.040 the more you realize, man, that the men get treated 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.960 like the worst ship in the world. Dog, So you 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.600 ain't got if you don't have nothing going on though 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.720 as a man, as a man, if you don't have 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.920 no motherfucker monetary value, dog, you ain't ship. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.440 He still, I've been on you since, like for a 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.000 long time. You've been saying that that you was like 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.360 thirty five, bro, and it was just the truth. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:06.560 Though. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:07.440 It's the truth. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.799 If you if you don't have no money, though, you're 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.160 not worth grain of salt. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.320 I agree. Do you want to be loved broken? 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.000 Man? I think you're supposed to be loved unconditionally? Bro? 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:20.320 Why do you think that? 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.919 Because I just think so, Bro, I love people unconditionally. No, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:24.480 you don't. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.040 If he was broke would you love yourself? Still hold up? 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.040 That's a lot. No, you don't. I do love people unconditionally. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:30.720 No you don't. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.359 Yes I do. I love my kids unconditionally. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:34.120 You don't. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.720 How you figure that? You? How you figure that love 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:37.400 people condition? 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.480 Your old lady was to give you no vagina, you 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:40.280 wouldn't love her? 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:47.880 Yes I would. I'm gonna tell you that's not the. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:48.600 Want that no more. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.480 Remember remember in Merrivath's Children, al Bun used to complain 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.320 having sex with the wife, sex. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.280 With the wife. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.320 You know what, man, I don't think people complain about that. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.760 I used to think that people men have this. I 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.560 think everybody's trying to use each other. Everybody just want 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.000 to use somebody though everybody getting used. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.640 I mean, look, yeah, I saw the video with the 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.120 Little White Man you saw yesterday, and he was talking 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.640 about how people want to be no, no, not you. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.840 He definitely wasn't players. He's not player as you bro. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.600 He was complaining that he felt useless at the time 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.840 and women could make you feel useless. And it's like, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.639 still just be mad because his old lady expect him to. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.480 Do the same thing. He been doing it for thirty years. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.400 What he signed up to do like his job description. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.200 I told Still this, and he got to this argument 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.920 with me. I say, bro, you marry a woman when 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.200 you decide you want to take care of that woman forever. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.080 If that ain't your reason for getting married. If you 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.920 married somebody because you want them to take care of you, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:54.760 you got married for. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.280 The wrong reason. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.640 That's why women celeb wedding and not the man. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.320 Exactly. See the thing a woman dog. You can't expect 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.280 woman to take care of you like a man should expect. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.240 Never expect the woman to take care of him though. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.600 That's just not hardly expect to come back home from 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:10.480 the grocery store. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.480 It's not manly, brother, expect the woman to take care 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.000 of you. You feel what I'm saying. But I think 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.600 men have been getting the short end of the stick 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.719 man for the last hundred two hundred years. Ever since 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.479 they invented the job. No, ever since they started just 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.599 came on a planet, the man got to go hunting, 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.680 he might not come home. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.920 They admitted the job two hundred years ago. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.240 Well yeah, ever since the job got offended the door, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.040 the man been getting the short end of the fucking stick. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.640 I mean, but like, what about you gave a woman 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.320 a job before you, before you knew what the requirements were. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.960 You know what? That might be true, though, you know 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:49.800 what I think? Man? 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.200 Yeah, yet, hold up, still listen. I'll be honest. I 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:56.240 won't even joke. Look, in a perfect world, women will 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.320 just love you no matter what you got. But did 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:01.800 he's in jail for racketeering. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.039 There's a lot of ship that starts with in a 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:05.839 perfect world. 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.520 But yeah, yeah, did he's in jail for racketeering by himself. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.599 Obviously he's his own organization. I even got my dad 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:14.320 to laugh at that. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.440 You know. Can you just picture this man's flight right now? 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.200 Old Dog. Just a couple of months ago, he was 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.160 on a fucking boat, like on the big ass yacht, Dog, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.599 just doing his thing, just eating whatever he wanted to do. Dog. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:28.520 Now he's in the cell. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.039 This is what happened. If you have enough money to 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:35.680 be on a. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:41.839 Boat, stay on the fucking boat, dog. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.000 As soon as and I'm pretty sure he heard rumors 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.000 that he's coming down the pike. I don't know why 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.360 he funk. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.200 Would you get off a boat, That's what I'm saying. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.320 I took that boat. Drink the bomb Brazil Some fucking wear. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.919 And there's never got off and had somebody wire me. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.960 He making all that money, wire me a hundred million, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.120 and i'mnock them back for ten or fifteen years. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.200 You just have your ear at International waters. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.640 Just send people out on on on the tenders to 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.520 go get supplies and come back. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.360 You can even bring bitches back out of the boat. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.119 Who cares the boat? 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.000 I think, Peter, you over there drinking what you're drinking? Man? 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:26.240 Oh, this is the Martinez. I invented it. The vodka 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.800 Martini is the en vogue. You know, drink the jour 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.440 in a lot of cirtcles these days. I'm in Miami. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:39.120 I know vodka martinis. I do Cubans calling dark. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.200 Rum, shaking and poured. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:48.480 It's the Martinez. It's the Martini and Espanol delicious, delicious. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.400 You never had. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.680 I've never had somebody complaining. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.000 No, you you you and Miami. You're talking about chicks 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:58.200 and Long Beach. You tripped me. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.720 Oh they got him down here to well, I know 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:01.719 that's my point. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.120 They got they got more of them that. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.000 We ain't got nothing on it on Miami. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:06.880 No. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.600 But I'm just saying in of l A County, you 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.080 hated Miami. When you're here still we're talking about because. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:14.840 It's expensive as hell. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:15.120 Dog. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.840 They put a service charge on every damn thing. I 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.160 went to a red I went to a donut shop. Bro, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.560 dollars a ten dollars service charge some donuts. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.880 Why you get why are you getting donuts in Miami? 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.480 Because they they had donuts with like the whipped cream. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.720 And you went to see if you go to Miami Beach. 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:46.080 That's where counters off out of the girls and they 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.920 go and they gouged you with the with the autograph 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:49.640 for anything. 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.160 I went to what's the little homely name down there, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.280 the little red looking dude, what's a little rapper name, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.800 Kodak Blake. I went to his shop, Dog. It was 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:58.800 actually pretty funny. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:00.920 Oh, the the clothing store. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.280 Yeah. I asked the dude that was working there, I said, 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.120 does he ever come in here? He said, yeah, he 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:05.600 comes in. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.800 I go to the strip club on the other side 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:08.200 of the wall. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.640 Yeah. You know what's funny about this store, Dog, Bro, 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:13.840 his story smelled like weed. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.520 I'm sure does. That's not that is not surprising to me. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.800 I imagine Kodak Black said he suber. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.760 Now though, Bro, that's good for him. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.080 But he don't work there. I don't have to work there. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.320 He might be he might be. Dog. I hope he was, Dog, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.560 I really hope, because he had sobriety. Dog, because I 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:38.280 think I think drugs are ruining our community right now. Dog. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.160 Not to be not not not being facetious either. Drugs 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.040 are ruining the black community. Dog have been ruining the 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:52.360 black community. Alcohol alcohol. We Yeah, seriously, Dog, he you 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:52.920 were about right. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.480 I'm not saying that as a joke. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.200 I'm saying like to me rhetorically speaking, there's always this 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.200 talk about like the nineteen eighties and crack and shit 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.320 like that. There was an enormous number of vets that 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.840 came back from Vietnam and then and outside of La Heroin, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:13.600 the community got, yes, just ravaged by Heroin for show up. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.040 I remember it when I lived in Cleveland. See, I 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.560 remember we stayed in this apartment building and in the 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.520 back you would see needles just all in the ground here. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.559 One was so big in Cleveland, though, just needles everywhere. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:32.319 Dude, no ceilings, yel my man, Peter bars in the house. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.960 I got my big brother Stell and I got my 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:37.440 little brother quiz Man. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:37.920 Quiz. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.200 What was having y'all clap for quiz man Like y'all 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:45.080 got some class man clapping quiz got a new project out. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:45.760 What's the name of it? 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.320 Quiz project is called Grateful Grateful. Yeah, I remember that. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.040 I'm on the project, So y'all check that out on Spotify. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.640 We was having a dope rap conversation. I'm like, hold 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.960 that for the pot. You don't got to be like 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.000 you know, you don't got to be We could talk 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:08.200 about it with it being, with it having taste's still 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:08.680 start playing. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.679 We got loan to find that. Uh did you hear that? 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.400 Yes? You heard it? Yeah, we heard it. I'm trying 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.400 to do the applause thing. I was trying to see 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.000 if we have the end of the plow. Let me see. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:20.439 I want to get it. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.920 We need a we need a professional soundboard. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.760 Did you hear Did you hear that right there? No? 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.240 Hey, still you sound like a tyler with a new toy. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.599 Did you get this right here? This? 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:38.440 Well, we didn't hear it. I heard that. Yes, I'm doing. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:48.080 Okay, stop it. Yes we heard it. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.320 Years right there. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.520 Yes, you're making it the story I. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.080 Wish I want to I wanted to do the third 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:58.920 Little Horns. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.720 We heard that, we got that, We got on. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.880 Better with you on it. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:07.880 This version of you is so much better than the 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.520 version that's on Gangs the Chronicles. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.760 Well, i've been letting my my personality bleed over a 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.439 little bit. You know, it ain't been on the show. Dog, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.080 I've been over there a while because you've been. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.440 On the Chronicles. Andre turning into a professional hose like 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.200 not Robert Walters. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.240 Bro one more time for Homie. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.400 Y'all hear that, Yes, we heard it, So y'all hear that. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:31.360 Please stop you quiz, please stop. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.560 Just just just mut I'm. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.280 Gon to put that right here, right by me. Dog, 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.559 just hit the button random, she says something funny left. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:51.640 Still, you don't have to make it yourself. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:57.640 After I'm gonna move one actual thing up here on 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.480 the thing. So when I hear it, y'all can't tell. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:05.800 Like, Okay, you have one a really dope conversation. And 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.480 I said, hold it for the pod and we're talking 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.760 about ice cube. And it's funny because me and Still 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:16.360 have had this conversation off air and he was talking 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.840 about cubes kind of what almost looks like three separate careers, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.040 right and he was talking about his third part and 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.520 he's saying he kind of started to get questionable in 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.360 his eyes, when obviously he got to the third period, right, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:36.520 which was we be clubbing the Yay yay put those versions. Yeah, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.640 And I get it because Stretch said the same thing 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.120 to me. But what I've learned being in the music business, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:44.760 and you know, I don't want to come across all 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.600 music businesses. But what I really realized, bro, was what's 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.640 dope for him is right, you start off as n 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.800 W as his writer, like everything is the lines you writing, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.760 right then obviously that's that first era where the Chuck 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.040 d era and he came in and and he was 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.480 writing and saying the hardest stuff. But the reason I 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.480 think that's more a testament to how great of an 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.440 MC is and a hip hop legend and and just 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:16.040 a fantastic artist. His songwriting got crazy, Like think about it, right, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.040 Like initially you said he was like jay. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:18.640 Z before that. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.440 Jay Z never evolved into forgive Me Whole, because I 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.520 know you listen to the podcast, but he never turned 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.520 into the same songwriter ice Cube turn into. Remember, so 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.080 ice Cube started as an MC that needed other people 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.800 to do hooks on hit records to where he got 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.160 so controlled with his songwriting, his record writing ability. Those 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.680 songs are top twenty songs and he's on the chorus. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.240 I love it. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.480 He was just a fake Tupac with and all that 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:58.680 stuff and no, but that's the bugs like them, dude. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.800 I mean, but I know, like the sound, the sound 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.480 was changing, things were shifting, and he found his way 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:05.520 to implement himself. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.200 And songwriting can be a big corny. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.920 I think that if you really think about it, still 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.120 think about some of the greatest records wrote. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:19.200 But I'm a fan of MCS. So that's why, like. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.920 You're gonna critique like Snoop Dogg for. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.720 Yeah, that was hard. It was this was hard. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.239 It was a deviation from his his typical sound. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.400 But Snoop was never like a like a prolific writer 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.200 like ice Cube Boy was, well. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.080 Noime, but they do something different. See, And I think 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.600 when we hear rapper, we think writer. That's something I 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.440 trip off of. That's not really what a rapper means. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.720 It's the connotation, but it's not like I think we 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:53.640 fancied Cube and certain people as writers versus Snoop, who 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.720 is actually just a superb rapper. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:01.320 I think wearate the terms writer and composer. Rapper's gonna 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.880 write their lyrics, but you compose the piece or something 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.360 like something that's. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.360 A little deeper. That's a little deeper. But let's back 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.800 up before we go from there. Q Snoop has always 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.600 been an incredible rapper. Now, if you question how great 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.040 he writes or the things he's writing, that's a different 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.800 conversation because that's where to me, the jay Z's, the 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.640 nas and different people stand out as writers. When you 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.480 hear the things they're writing, you like, oh these things 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.560 to me and to me, not everybody has that talent. Yeah, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.720 So when Q moved away, when Q moved away. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.680 From displaying his talent in that way, that's where like 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.440 it gets a little tricky for me. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.080 Well, I think that's the genius of it, right, because 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.440 if you really think about it, from nineteen eighty eight, Well, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.640 boys in the Livele came out in eighty seven to 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.040 be able to carry a career for eleven years on 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.480 your own pen and then you're writing your hit records 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.080 at the end of that eleven twelve year run, Like, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:58.600 what's crazy? 0:15:58.640 --> 0:15:59.960 It's my favorite Cube album? 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:01.440 Is uh? 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:02.720 The War album? 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:08.240 It's not necessarily America Death Certificate lethough predator. I feel 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.920 like as a songwriter and as an MC, he was 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.200 at his his apex, his greatest by the time he 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.440 became a much better songwriter to go with the M 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.560 sing Now, I agree with you. I think as you 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.000 become because I go through this now, as I become 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.600 a much better record writer, you kind of leave M 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.960 seeing IM seeing. I don't want to say leave it. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.880 That's not the right word. It's not as imperative because 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.480 it's more about the composition of the whole record versus 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.760 where if you j you really don't let me wrong, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.440 because I do think Jay writes some of the singing 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.360 parts for some people, but for the most part he's 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.600 taken like he didn't write Empire State of Mind. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:44.800 He just had the m C. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.640 The verses, They've been a lot of stuff too. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.080 There's certainly. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.040 I don't like. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:58.960 I don't like thet I know, I personally don't like 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.840 when the MC starts leaving the MC part. Well, I 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:03.760 personally don't like that. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:04.600 No, No, I get it. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.360 There's a natural like there's there's a point of diminishing 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:13.200 returns where stuff becomes too lyrics centric to be. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.320 Matt to get mass like audience. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.240 You know, I just understand you know what I'm saying. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.359 You know, you know who that is. That's Bob Dylan. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.240 Like Bob Dylan is regarded as one of the greatest writers, 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.680 but he don't got the best records. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.679 No everybody else who does his songs after him. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.280 You know what, the greatest rutterer of all time though, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.879 And I think that's where as when we talk. So 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.679 that's why I'm saying with Q, so I get it. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.600 I get it from MC because you are like a 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.679 I'm a Pio pair amount MC like you are. That 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.640 is your ship you leave with them seeing But because 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.160 of our business. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.840 Our job is still to make records that the world. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:18:00.240 Yeah, and I think you who started his career very 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.320 much like a top tier MC without a ton of 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.119 like you know, he ain't like us. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.280 We have the benefit of ice, Q jay. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.160 Z, Tupac Star, and we got hundreds of rappers. By 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.399 the time me and you start rapping, there's hundreds of 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.640 guys we could take up. If you were in eighty seven. Shit, 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:23.320 it's melly mail about ten people, Like, how do you 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.040 form a staff like stealing them era? How do you 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.800 form a style just listening to the blow that was his. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:35.840 Name homeboy from like from Condon to Paramount and the 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:36.800 girl you was day. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.240 That at the time, she was like, he's not like 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.920 a Paul Paul. Oh yeah, what's his name? I forgot? 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.280 He was cool though, Yeah, he was cool. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.840 But think about it, if you came inque like like Snoop, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.800 like like Snoop Steal q Day. All them dudes born 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.320 between sixty eight and seventy three, they didn't have no 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.200 rappers to really look up too. They might have had 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.520 seven gods. They probably heard Melly Mail and was blown 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.320 away listening to this Melly Mail That Melley Mail guy 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:06.760 is incredible. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:11.400 Us scar Face before scar Face Mellen's nineteen, I'm saying 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:12.760 before Scarface. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.720 Yeah, they about the same, about the same, I'd be 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.600 willing to bet they was, like I heard. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.320 About the same time. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.840 Yeah, all right, like like like that's the crazy part still, 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.560 Like when you was fifteen in eighty five, who did 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:34.280 you look up to? 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.720 Who was the dopest? And King wasn't not ninety five, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:40.680 You're damn lie. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.680 King was five. See, I'm gonna tell you right up, Wayne. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.000 He wasn't eighty five. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.679 I mean still was fifteen, right around Lionel Richard's first album. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.800 Right Hill, No, you couldn't think, probably about closer to 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.720 the same thing. The Commodore is in the seventies. A 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:58.879 lot of rich he ain't to the eighties. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.720 Still in the seventies and seventies, sixties, baby sixties, bab. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:04.000 No, Okay. 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.120 Big Daddy came to begin his career in nineteen eighty six, 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.240 so I was sixteen, So. 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:10.800