1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,440 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm Rashan McDonald host the weekly Money Making Conversation Masterclass show. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: The interviews and information that this show provides off for everyone. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: start living your own. If you want to be a 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: guest on my show, Money Making Conversation Master Class, please 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: visit our website, Moneymakingconversations dot com and click to be 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: a guest button. If you're an entrepreneur, small business owner, 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: got a product, an influencer, motivational speaker, I want you 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: on my show. 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Now, let's get started. 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: A managing attorney at the law firm of Falida Cordog, 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: she is an adoption attorney and foster care advocate. Her 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: firm specializes in adoption law and family law. After witnessing 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: unsettling incidents involving children, she believed that she could best 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: serve the children of Georgia by becoming an attorney. Please 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: welcome to Money Making Conversations Master Class. Attorney Felita Cordog, How. 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: You doing wonderful? Thank you for having me first. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: That's a lot to say. What age were you inspired 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: by this? You know, say that that motivated you to 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: be an attorney? 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 3: I actually at a very young age in my teens. Okay, 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: I kind of took the senior group though I didn't 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: start law school until my early thirties. 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: They congratulations, atleast you followed your dream. This is your dream, 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: right dream? Okay? Why was the delay in pursuing law? 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: Just life, other things happening. I had a child unplanned, 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: but became blessed in my life, got married, became a homemaker, 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: and then after all that, I decided it was time 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: for me to get started doing what I really wanted 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: to do. 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: That's inspirational, don't you believe? 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: I think it is because a lot of. 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: People are sitting at home right now questioning what they 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: want to do with their lives, and they're, like I said, 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: pumping the brakes on. What they should be doing is 37 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: putting their foot on the gas and planning an option 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: to be successful. Before we get into your background and 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: an adoption, law and foster care, being an advocate in 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: those areas, what enabled you to get in the direction, 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: get back on the saddle, in the saddle to pursue 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: this degree in law in your thirties. 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: Well, I, like a lot of people, I have a 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: story and I wanted to turn that story of pain. 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: It became my passion. When I was very young, my 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: brother and I we were really small, and my mom 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: died from domestic violence, so we were pretty much poor. 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: Friend my mom was deceased and my dad gone to prison, 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: and I was very fortunate and very blessed that we 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: didn't have to go into the foster care system because 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: we had family to take care of us. My mother's 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: brother became our legal guardian, he and his wife, and 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: my mother's sister, and my mother parents, my return of 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: grandparents helped raised us. But as I got older, I 55 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: learned that that wasn't the case for everyone. That a 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: lot of children did end up in foster care because 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: they didn't have that family or suitable family to take 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: care of them. And so becoming an adoption attorney and 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: a foster care advocate it was just my way of 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: showing my gratitude to God and to my family. And 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: so I said, well, you know, since everybody isn't able 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: to have that support system, I can do something to 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: help bring awareness to these children that are in foster care. 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking to attorney Felita Corna. 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Yes, what is the difference between adoption and foster care. 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: So of course, adoption is a legal situation where you 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: become the permanent parents of a child. It's permanent as 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: opposed to foster care, which is a temporary situation because 69 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: when a child comes into foster care, the primary goal 70 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: is to reunite that child with his biological affairs. Oh okay, 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: so that's the goal. So it's permits, it's it can 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: turn into permiten, that's not the initial goal, okay, but 73 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: there are sometimes when that that that doesn't happen. 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: So then sure a child is taken out of a 75 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: parent home, maybe prison or physical ailments or drugs, an 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 2: environment that's not safe, right, okay, and move to another 77 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: environment that they feel will give you a better opportunity 78 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: to succeed, right and live a successful way. 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: To live successful lives. And and you know, like you say, 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: the first thing is to ensure their safety, their physical safety, okay, 81 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: and also to uh like you said, make sure that 82 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: there's someone there to provide for their uh safety. You 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: know their educational needs, that you know their physical needs. 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: Make sure that they are taken to the doctors, uh 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: to get check ups and all those kinds of things. So, 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: like I said, it's supposed to be permanent, but of 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: course there are times when a child cannot be reunited 88 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: with that biological family and so and when that happens, 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: then that child who's in foster care becomes eligible for adoption. 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: Right now, when you look at yourself, you know, I 91 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: said you had a support system. 92 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: That enabled you to live a normal life. 93 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: What is the life of a child at an adoption facility. 94 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: So of course that that can vary with a child. 95 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: And let's just talk about the state of Georgia. 96 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so where so where they are so falter care. 97 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: There's a couple of different ways that a child is 98 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: placed in foster care here in Georgia. They can be 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: placed with a foster family, right okay, Okay, So they 100 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: can also be placed. 101 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: Which means that that's a family that already has foster. 102 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: Kids, has the family that already has fus. It could 103 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: be a first time foster okay, it could be a 104 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: first time foster parent. It could be a pair of 105 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 3: foster parent who's been doing this for years. It could 106 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: be a single individual, and it could be a married couple. Okay, okay, 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: So they are placed in that in that like a 108 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: home environment. Like a you know, with a family in 109 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: a single family home, but they can also be placed 110 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: in group homes there you know, no sound yeah, no, 111 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: so they can you know, they can be placed in 112 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: group homes. This this where not all of them are 113 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: placed in the home environment, right, so they can't be 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: placed in group homes as well. 115 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about the whole situation where you 116 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: kind of when you talk about caring for a child 117 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: in that permanent environment versus the temporary environment. I know 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: some friends, I have some friends who have lived successful lives, 119 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: but they are very lots of stereotypes about what after child. 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Looked like or what they could be. 121 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: And you have organizations out there like Big Brothers, Big 122 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 2: Sisters who are set up to be there to mentor 123 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: and provide outlets for kids who maybe with single moms 124 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: or single single parent households or foster care situations. 125 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Where do you come in? 126 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: Okay, So I come in And that's a that's a 127 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: great point which you made about the stereotypes of what 128 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: children uh in foster care like, so let me can 129 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 3: I address that first? 130 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 131 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: So? Yeah, so children come in too. First of all, 132 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: come into foster care system for all types of reasons. 133 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 3: I've worked with children who parents passed away mom mom 134 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 3: died of an illness. A couple of years later, dad 135 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: passed away. Had them where you know, mother passed away, 136 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: grandmother became caretaker, then grandmother passed away. Them come in 137 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: there where the pair went into the prison system. There 138 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: they're going to be there for the next ten, eleven, 139 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: twelve years, and there is no other caretaker to care 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: for them. They and of course some of them are 141 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: some of them are physically abused. Some of them have 142 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: been physically abused. Some of them have not necessarily been abused, 143 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: but they've been elected. Mom is on drugs. She's leaving 144 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: the children four and five days at a time by themselves, 145 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: and then of course that also leads the education of electors. 146 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: Most of the time they're not going into school, and 147 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: so sometimes there's no other family member to take them 148 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: more there's no suitable family member. You might have somebody 149 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: who's willing to take them, might be a wally loving person, 150 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: but you know, they they like to smoke marijuana. They 151 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: can't pass the drugs, and so even though they're women 152 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: to care for these kids, they state is not gonna 153 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: look at them as a suitable and as a suitable 154 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: person to care of them might be so children. So 155 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest myths too, is that all 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: children in foster care have been abused and they all 157 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: have emotional problems of mental help. Can we get rid 158 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: of that stereotype educating like you're doing now, when we 159 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: have people who come in and talk about actually children 160 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: and then you know, and not just me as an 161 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: adoption attorney, people who work in the foster care system, 162 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: case workers, people who have been a foster, foster parent 163 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: or adoptive parents. Uh So that's how we do it. 164 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: We educate, we talk about it, and we let people 165 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: see the face of foster care. 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: Now, this is very emotional. 167 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: This has to be a very emotional role that you've 168 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: taken on, responsibility, you've taken on. How do you handle 169 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: that because it's the first of all, the word foster 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: care and the word adoption doesn't signify happiness. Okay, but 171 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: you trying to get these young kids in a happy environment. 172 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: I guess that's the end game for your emotion. 173 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: Huh right, it's the endgame. It's I look at it 174 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: as it's a job I have to do. It's just 175 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: when when it's just your your calling, you just got 176 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: to do it. And there are some some emotional times 177 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: that I have, like you know, when I have uh finalized, 178 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 3: help finalize an adoption and from especially from foster care. 179 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: I do all types of adoptions. I do private adoptions, 180 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: I do step pair of adoptions, I do grand pair 181 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: of adoptions. Uh uh. The only thing I don't do 182 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: is international adoptions. I don't do. So I do all 183 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: types of adoptions, but I am a foster care advoct 184 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: because I love advocating for children of Falster care to 185 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: help them find the adoption families because we walk at 186 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: the end of the day, we want kids out of 187 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: falster care. Absolutely, we don't want them age out of 188 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: Falster care. 189 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: So that's a whole the matter, Chris, for you before 190 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: we're going to further the are if someone takes on 191 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: a child in foster care, are they given any funds? 192 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah yeah in the state of Georgia, yeah, they 193 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: are given stipends to help take care of those kids 194 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: in foster care. And a lot of the kids in 195 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: falster adoption not not adoption once because once the adoption 196 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: is finalized, you stand in the parent's place of a parent, 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: as if that was your biological child. But while they're 198 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: in foster care, they can they can't get subsidies, and 199 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 3: they and most of the kids also qualify for Medicaid 200 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: while they're in foster care as well. Okay, cool, so 201 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: so but to answer finish your other point about being emotional, 202 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: it can be. No. One of the times that I 203 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: get most emotional is that when I do an adoption 204 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: and there are some falster kids that have come out 205 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: of foster care, they found there forever families. That's beautiful, 206 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: but it may be that they have still have a 207 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: sibling in falster care because usually when children they're part 208 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: of a sibling group. If one is in foster care, 209 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: nine times out of ten, the other siblings are in 210 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: foster care as well. And so it's kind of heartbreaking, 211 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: you know, just happy because you know this child has 212 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: filed or sometimes sibling groups, they found there forever family, 213 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: but they still got a sibling left in foster care. 214 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: So that's the part that really gets to me. 215 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. 216 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: But there are different types of adoption, right, Let's not 217 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: let's just say adoption is adoption. Explain us a different 218 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: type of adoption. First of all, let me tell everybody 219 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: who I'm talking to. I'm talking to a founder and 220 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: artistic excuse me, I'm talking to the Felita Cornogue and 221 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: your firm deals with adoption agencies and an. 222 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: Advocate for foster care. 223 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: Foster care, which means that this has been a passion 224 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: that changed your life because you could have experienced it. 225 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: But you have family members who came to the rescue 226 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: because your mom was a victim of domestic vio which 227 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: means that she was passed away because of that violence, 228 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: and your father went to presson. 229 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: That happened at a. 230 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Very early age, and it is guided you through the 231 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: pathway because of the fact that you had a family, 232 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: a village, I should say, they came to your rescue, 233 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: where if you didn't, you will be having this conversation 234 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: about foster care. 235 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. 236 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: We will be right back with more insights from Money 237 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: Making Conversations Master Class. Welcome back to Money Making Conversation 238 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: Master Class with me Rashaun McDonald. 239 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: So, yeah, like I say, there are adoptions are usually I mean, 240 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: adoptions in itself are usually just happy things. One of 241 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: the it's one of the few times that somebody leaves 242 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: a law office where everybody's happened, because you know, when 243 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: somebody comes to see an attorney's because somebody's done somebody wrong. 244 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: So adoptions are just absolutely beautiful, and like I say, 245 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: they're you know, they're all types of adoption, just you know, 246 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: private adoptions where people, uh, you know, they might be 247 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: adopting some child from adoption agency, or they might have 248 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: a friend. Right now, I'm working on adoption where the 249 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: couple is adopting actually a child, a child of a friend. 250 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: It was unwanted pregnancy, and she did not she didn't want, 251 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: she didn't want. 252 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: It's an unwanted pregnancy. So she's a friend. Now I 253 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: gotta stop right now. Can she come back and certainly 254 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: want the child? 255 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: Not anymore? Because she has In Georgia and it varies 256 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: from state to state, she has surrendered her parental rights. 257 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: The biological father has surrendered surrender his parental rights as well. 258 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 3: So in Georgia you have four days to rescind that surrender. 259 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: And so after the four days it's up. That's pretty 260 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: much it. You can't come back. 261 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: Foster care. 262 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: That seems to be kind of like they don't know 263 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: where they go back to the parents, because they may 264 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: want to go back to their parents, so they have 265 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: that emotion and the environment that they're in doesn't feel permanent. 266 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: Talk about that balance. 267 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know there's I don't care how 268 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: bad the situation is at home. You know, there's just 269 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: saying there's just something about that umbilical cord where that 270 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: child wants to be tied to that biological family. So 271 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: it is a traumatic expirence to be uprooted from that family, 272 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: even if that family is not the best place for 273 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: that child to be. And then also the one of 274 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: the other reasons we want children out of foster care 275 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: to hopefully to be reunited with that Like you say, 276 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: that's not gonna always happen, So we want to get 277 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: children out of foster cares who can't. It can't because 278 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: not only that children can go from foster home to 279 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: foster home. So it's not like, Okay, you're in this 280 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: foster home right now, but you know you're going to 281 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: be in this same home from the whole time that 282 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: you are in the in the what we call the 283 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: custody of the state. And so these children can be 284 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: moved from foster home to foster home and then that 285 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, and so that's like being uprooted each time 286 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: you're rooted. And sometimes issues and mostly it's and it 287 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: has a lot of times it helps. It causes children 288 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: to not be able bond with people because they don't 289 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: want to get you know, attached to this person. Then 290 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to be moved to somewhere else. So the 291 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: child can have these attachment issues as well. So it 292 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: can be a very traumatic experience for a child to 293 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: be in foster care. 294 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: What if you don't want to be a foster parent, 295 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: but you want to support the program, is that is 296 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: that an option? 297 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a great that's a great question because 298 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: being a foster parent is not for everybody, but you 299 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: can still support. One of the ways you can do 300 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: that is like you're doing if you have a radio show, 301 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: a podcast, you have a television show, you can bring awareness. 302 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: You can have people not just adoption attorneys or social 303 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: workers or directors of adoption agents, but you can have 304 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: people who've been adopted. You can have a child, a 305 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: teenage adult. You can have families who who've adopted child 306 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: or families who are foster care parents. So you can 307 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: you can bring awareness like you're doing. Also, you can volunteer. 308 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: Like one of the things that Georgia has, in addition 309 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: to what we know it's Defectsive Department and Family and 310 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: Children Services, Georgia also has private foster care agencies as well. 311 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: And what is that? So that's an agency. You know, 312 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 3: technically the child is still a ward of the state 313 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: because whether it's private foster care of public foster care, 314 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 3: like we know it's defects, but it's just it's an 315 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: agency and they do pretty much the same thing as defects. 316 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: They oversee the children, they help find foster parents for 317 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: these children to go in. It's just that you're not 318 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: dealing with defects per se. You're just just dealing with 319 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: a private agency. But they still have the same responsibilities 320 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: and duties as it's this child was being overseen by 321 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: defacts itself. Okay, So you can volunteer, you know, you 322 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: can donate, give money. A lot of these especially these 323 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: private foster care agency throughout the year, they have like 324 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: different drives, like they might when it starts getting cold, 325 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: they might have a coat drive where they want to 326 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: buy coats for the kids. And so you can donate, 327 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, donate money to these agencies to help them 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: care for the kids. You can also do becoming like 329 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: a COSTA. A CONSTA stands for quarter pointed special Advocates 330 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: in almost every almost every county GOTA, so almost every 331 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: county in Georgia has a COSTA office. And I sit 332 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: on the board of Rockdale Costa Rockdale County CALTA. And 333 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: so what a COSA does is they they're volunteers and 334 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: they actually train. They go through a training program where 335 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: they learn how to advocate for kids in foster care 336 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: in the juvenile court system. So that's one of the 337 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 3: things you can do to work with foster care kids. 338 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: Become a COSSA. So there are so there are ways 339 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: that you can support without becoming a foster parent. 340 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: And how do we get in touch with you? 341 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: Well, first way is always by telephone, okay. So the 342 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: number is AERA CO four zero four two nine eight 343 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: seven three seven three. 344 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Is that your sale or your office? 345 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: That's my office? Okay, that's my office number. And then 346 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 3: also my whips se is I'll spell it out, it's 347 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: w w W Quornock Law. That's c O R N 348 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: O g l A W dot com. So W w 349 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: w qrdnock law dot com. 350 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: It's my well, that's really good to hear. Now now 351 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: this slide back over to adoption. Is it difficult for 352 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: minority kids to get adopted? 353 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: Uh? Not as like it used to be. Okay, that 354 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 3: that was okay, So because you have right now you 355 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: have more uh interracial adoptions for one thing, you you know, 356 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: so it's not that uh you know, if if a 357 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: minority kid is gonna be strictly adopted by a parent 358 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: or parents of their same ethnic group. So that's one 359 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: of the reasons it's not as you know, it's not 360 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: as difficult as it used to be because you are 361 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: having more of these interracial adoptions. 362 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: Okay. So that leads me to my next question. 363 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: Support services for adoptive, adoptive or adoption or foster care 364 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: parents because they're gonna need help, you know, like you said, 365 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: you can say this this house is good, then the 366 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: child get home and taking up more time than you 367 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: expected or not what you expected. 368 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: What are those support services? 369 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, so children of Falster Care there are support services 370 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: for them and the family, and those can include things 371 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: like mental health services if that's needed. They if you're 372 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: the Falter Care they also have what they call respite services, 373 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: and that's where the foster parents might need to take 374 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: some time off and they might it might and it 375 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: might not. It might just be a day to go 376 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: to the spa just to take some time, just to 377 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: get some time to themselves or time to go shopping. 378 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: And so they will have, like other falster care parents 379 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: to look after the falster care children while that parent 380 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 3: takes a day for themselves. So those are things like 381 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: that you know there. Of course, they you can have 382 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: case workers come in and talk to if you know, 383 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: if you're having a problem or something's not quite going 384 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: on with the problem of this is more than what 385 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: you want to you thought it was gonna be, so 386 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: that the state can come in and they can provide 387 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: these wrap around services to you as well. So there 388 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: is a support system there for foster care parents for 389 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: adopt for and that's the same for foster to adopt 390 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: because some children, some people go into become foster care 391 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 3: parents because they know they want to adopt. So some 392 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: of them come in that they just gonna be falster 393 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: care parents, and so some of them go in because 394 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: they know they want adopt and they've chosen to adopt 395 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: from foster care, so those same services are provided to them, 396 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: you know before that adoption is final lot as well, 397 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: so those services are available. And then also if you're 398 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: if you're adopting through an adoption agency, of course they 399 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: provide services. You know, those are things that you're paying for. 400 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: They provide services, and then they can provide post adoption 401 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: services for you as well when you use adoption ations. 402 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: Of the money you pay when you know it's more 403 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: expensive to use adoptionation, so the money you paid come 404 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: for those types of services as well. 405 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Now talk a buy support. 406 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: What qualifies you to say that you could adopt a child? 407 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: Okay? So right, So so with Georgia that right of course, 408 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: of course there are legal requirements right there, age requirements, 409 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 3: so in the state of Georgia, you have to be 410 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: at least twenty one years old. You can be either Okay, 411 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: that's a good thing about Georgia. You can. You can 412 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: if you if you a single person you want to adopt, 413 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: you can adopt. 414 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: But you got to have a scare you care for 415 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: this show. 416 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: So that's what's gonna come in. So so so we'll 417 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: talk about what the basics. The basics are you got 418 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: to be twenty one years older, twenty one years at 419 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: least twenty one years of age. If you're not related 420 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: to the child by blood or marriage, you've got to 421 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: be at least ten years older than a child that 422 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: you're going to adopt. Okay, Okay, Now, if you are married, 423 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: both parties have to do the adoption petition. You can't 424 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: have one spouse adopted child, you know, and the other 425 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: spouse not adopted child if you're married and living together. 426 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: But again, like I said, you don't have to be married, 427 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: you can be single. Now. Of course, with that, you're 428 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: gonna have to go through a vetting system. Just like 429 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: you have to go to a vetting system become a 430 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: foster care parent, you have to go through a vetting system. 431 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: When you're adopted, you're gonna have to do a criminal 432 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: background check. They're gonna check to see if you are 433 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: on a child abuse regis that, they're gonna check to 434 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: see if you're on a sex offender register. They're gonna 435 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: come out and visit your home. So they're gonna do 436 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: what we it's called a home technical terms home the evaluation. 437 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: What most people know it, it's the home study. So 438 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: they're coming out to do the home study. Uh, they're 439 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: gonna look at how you get your income. Are you 440 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: are you able to provide for this? 441 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: Right? 442 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: So you got food right? Right? Hello and so and 443 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: then you're gonna have to uh, you know, you even 444 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: have to show that you're physically able to take care 445 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: of the child. You have to you know, if you 446 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: haven't been to the doctor in a while, you have 447 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: to go get a physical and then the doctor check 448 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: you out. So there is a strenuous vetting process because 449 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 3: you know, the term that we use in Georgia is 450 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: the best interests of the child. So we you know, 451 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: so we're not just gonna, you know, just give anybody 452 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: who comes and raise their hands and say I want 453 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: to adopt. There you know. There, of course, there is 454 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: a betting process because we have to you were, the safety. 455 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: Of children twelve months of the year and every it 456 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: seems like every month has a specialized day they recognized, 457 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: right a cause, Yeah, and November is National Adopt Month? 458 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Yes, why is that significance for you? 459 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So so let's talk about how how this all 460 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: got started. So National Adoption Month actually grew out of 461 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: National Adoption Day and that was instituted by Dave Thomas, 462 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: a lot of us knowing him as the founder of 463 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: Wendy and he was of course he was adopted. And 464 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: then there was some Fanny May and some other institutions 465 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: came together because they wanted to bring awareness to children 466 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: in foster care who needed to be adopted. So that 467 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: so Adoption Day just turned in. That's because that's in 468 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: the month of November, so it's so out of that 469 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 3: grew adoption Month. So and that that's significant for me 470 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: because then I talked about false care adoption all year long, 471 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: but we want to bring a special tension doing Adoption Month, 472 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: and so we try to get a lot of people 473 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: on board to talk about adoption during the month of November. 474 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you asked me, I responded, because again, 475 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: thank you for the education. This show is my main 476 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: conversation master class by entrepreneurship, small business, financial literacyre also 477 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: social and community up there, and that's what this interview 478 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: is about. 479 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: You are an uplifting. 480 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: Person, my friend, attorney for Leader Cornock and on one 481 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: more time, how can we get in touch with you? 482 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: Uh so, my telephone number is Eric code four zero 483 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: four two nine eight seven three seveny three. That is 484 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 3: my office number, the law office of Pelica Cornock and 485 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: so my website address is www. 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