WEBVTT - A Loose Cannon 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.440 If you thought four hours a day, hundred minutes a 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.240 week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.879 the old Republic a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.760 crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:20.200 pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.080 break three for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:31.400 Maller starts right now in the air everywhere as we 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.879 are back at it. A new weekend is upon us, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.160 and we are glad you have found your way into 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.320 the podcast world. We are not restricted by the Federal 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.360 Communications Commission because this is only available in the podcast format. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.560 A spinoff of the Ben Maller Shaw Heard five nights 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.680 a week syndicated on Fox Sports Radio through My Heart 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.360 all over the United States and a hundred and sixty 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.680 five countries and ships at sea all over the globe. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.800 There because the American Forces Network. But this podcast is 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:08.280 an interview podcast, and we are joined this weekend. Amazingly, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.679 I thought he wasn't gonna be here, but David Gascon 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:19.920 in the house for these own ten sound effects. If 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.800 he makes his way to the Mincros final, I mean, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.000 I got people that are here and near and dear 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.560 to my heart. You've got some fan boys and boot 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.240 liquors and sicko fans on the overnights. So it's a 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:34.840 it's a perfect comment. I have people that respect quality radio. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.880 That's it. That's all that. Nothing more than that, nothing 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.480 more than that. Yeah, they call it fanatics. Maybe if 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.280 you were good, you'd have something. Maybe that I got that. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.920 I got lovers, that's all I got. I'm I'm excited 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.280 about this guest today. We um, well, that really gets 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.120 a friend of the podcast, friend of the part. We 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.880 don't do guests. We have friends of the podcast people 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.680 we like, people we want to talk to. And I 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.440 figured like we we need to get back to our 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.520 roots because now I love Dave Parker and that was 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.680 great and flashback to my childhood with Dave Parker. But 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.200 I love talking radio. You know the business of radio. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.160 I love it. I'm a radio nerd, and I love 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.560 the great people that are on radio that do such 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.400 a great job and having some of them on and 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.080 people we know, and we are excited because not only 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.280 do we get to talk to a colleague at Fox 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.919 Sports Radio on the weekends, but also a guy I've 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.320 known since I was a kid. I started in radio 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.360 and I was nineteen years old and this guy was 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.560 one of the big stars at the at the mighty 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.520 six ninety when I started, and I didn't intern on 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.640 his show. I interned on Lee Hacks on Hambleton's show. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.720 But we're talking about Steve Hartman, the man that has 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:50.680 been the loose cannon of Southern California and syndicated radio 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.359 for forever pretty much, right going back to the late 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.440 eighties early nineties. He's been on on radio and so 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.320 we're gonna we're gonna catch up with Steve, which I'm 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.160 excited about because a lot of stories with Steve, and 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.799 Steve's been on television and radio and done it. Had 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.399 a Hall of Fame crew. He's actually in Uh maybe 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.320 we'll bring this up. Maybe maybe not, but he's in 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.840 the Southern California Jewish Sports Hall of Fame. And it's 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.040 funny because Arnie Spanier he's trying to get into that 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.320 Hall of Fame. He's very upset that he's not in it. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.200 We've had Arnie on the podcast and uh, I'm not 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:27.840 in it either, But Steve's in there. He's a Hall 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.680 of Famer. He had a verified bona fide Hall of 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.760 Famer here. Yeah, he's joining us right now. He's a beast. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.640 I So I worked as an intern for him back 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.600 in the day, back when I was at San Diego Stand. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.640 I think it was like two thousand four, two thousand five, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.280 and and I was one of those loggers. I don't 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.040 know if you you did this back in the day, Ben, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.640 but I had a log tape, and this is when 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.080 they did tape to tape editing. So whenever I was 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.840 given a cassette tape or a VHS tape, i'd had 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.600 to log the time from when like let's just say 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.440 it's Major Baseball, I don the lot of the time 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.720 from when a pitch was thrown to one the pitch 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.880 or the play was over with. So I had logged 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.960 times so when they did their television spots that they'd 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.440 be you know, enough time in there for when they 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.880 had obviously sound on tape. So I was logging all 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.960 the buroll for them. So I knew Steve only from 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.560 Afar because everyone said he was pretty much like the 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.840 class nerd. He was just like in and out, perfectly 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.880 parted hair. It was loud, he was he was just 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:34.479 he was just that guy, and uh, pretty surreal to 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.200 all of a sudden fast forward the clock a decade 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.200 and a half later and I get to be working 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.720 with him. That's pretty cool. And Steve is authentic. You 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.719 know some of these guys in radio and I'm pretty 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.640 quiet off the off the radio, guess and I'm pretty reserved. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:54.840 But Steven, he's he's non stopping and he doesn't look 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.560 like it. That's I know he works every day and 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.120 but it's just his personality. I try to kind of 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.040 wind down and but he he does not. He does 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.480 not believe in winding down. Enough of that, let's welcome 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.040 in the man, the mid the legend fs R colleague. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.640 He's doing morning drive in San Diego. But he is 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.520 the ultimate loose cannon, a man who has seen and 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.200 done everything, Steve Hartman. So, Steve, it's great to have 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.680 you on. We've been trying to get you on the podcast. Actually, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.600 Guesscott hasn't been trying to get anyone on the podcast. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.720 But let me begin with this. Now, you've had many 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.200 great accomplishments. You've covered Super Bowls, all Star games, You've 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.279 interviewed the biggest name in biggest names in sports. So 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.640 where does this appearance on the Fifth Hour podcast rank 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:43.400 in your hierarchy of career accomplishments. Well, this doesn't take 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.240 a lot of thought then, because it is absolutely at 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.240 the top. And let me say for the record, we 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.880 make this perfectly clear for the record. And I say 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:57.440 this in one honestly, and I've said this from the 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.800 first time I've barked Ben Mallor on the radio. Ben 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.560 Mallor is the best at what he does. Now, you 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.039 can qualify it that in any way you want, but 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.719 I believe that Ben Maller is the best at what 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.760 he does. And I just want to state that for 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.320 the record, so twisted anyway you want, you do what 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:22.360 you do better than anyone else. That's it, period, exclamation 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.960 point wow. As a ring endorsement. As you know, Steve, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.600 I started at the station you started. I was just 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.080 a merely know lowly intern at Extra Sports six ninety 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.280 and the Mighty six ninety and I interned for Hacks. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.039 We've had Hacks on the podcast a couple of times. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.720 But I remember i'd get there early because I was 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.919 a radio nerd, Steve, and I would see you in 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.960 check Fordy doing your thing. They're doing the show and 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.960 I love the vibe and that whole thing. And obviously 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.160 I've gotten into the business all these years and been 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.039 in it and whatnot period. But what was it like? 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.920 I want to know before I got there. I saw 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.200 what it was like when I got there a few 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.600 years after the station had launched. But what was it 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.359 like when you guys first went on the year and 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.640 launched that thing? Alright? So ben I, I mean, I 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.920 don't want to go ahole history listen, but we have time. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.040 It's a podcast. So um As you know, back in 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.200 the eighties, I was working as a PR guy for 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.800 the l A Raiders. I had no interest in being 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.720 a broadcaster that I thought about being a broadcaster. You know. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.600 I was working as a PR guy and I got 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.360 frustrated because Al Davis wouldn't give me a raise to 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.120 thirty thousand dollars a year. This is literally why I 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.200 quit the Raiders. As I asked. I wrote a letter 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.160 to Mr Davis saying, you're you're paying me twenty four thousand, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.400 three hundred dollars. I'm doing a cropload of work paying 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.680 me the thirty thousand, he said, thousand, we are five 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.480 and tenders yere, you want me to give you a raise. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.600 That was enough done finished. I took a non sports 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.720 job for four months. I had seen the movie Wall 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.680 Street one too many times and I was convinced I 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.320 was working for Gordon Gecko and I was Bud Fox. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.800 Four months later I quit that job, so I was 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.000 back at ground zero. And as you know then, my 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.480 radio career actually started at this little k Fox radio 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.240 with my mentor but for Willa. But for my whole 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.200 career is due to a man named but for Willo, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.840 the steam Namer, long time newspaper radio guy in Los Angeles. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.040 He took me under his wing when I was twenty 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.560 years old. He said, you're freaking kid. I don't know 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.080 how you retained so much crapp in her head that 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.640 I could use you. So I was working at this 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:30.120 little radio station k Fox when but got contacted by 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.440 a man named John Lynch. And it was amazing to 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.840 me because this John Lynch was in San Diego. He 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.599 had the station six. It was the flagship of the Chargers, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.240 and they had an afternoon radio guy named Lee Hacks 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.400 on Hamilton's. And I've never heard of Hacks. So you know, Ben, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.160 how it is if you don't understand that's from the 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.040 southern California standpoint. There are three distinct markets. There's l A, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.920 they're Sandy, Orange County, and they're San Diego. The well 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.760 events of San Diego sports in l A is no 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.720 different than Buffalo. There is no relevance of San Diego 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.520 sports in Los Angeles. So I've never heard of this 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.560 hacks I guy. So but calls me and he says, look, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.199 listen to this actor. You can hear the signal up 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.560 in LA. So I'm listening the first time I hear HACKSA. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.800 I called back, but he goes, what do you think 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.760 I said? I literally count of twelve things this guy 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.600 made up, completely made up, Like there's he's he's stating 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.360 things on the air that are not true. I mean, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:34.080 absolutely not true. So we went down to do an 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.520 audition show on the weekend, and you can you can 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.760 figure this one out. Then, So we drive down to 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:44.960 San Diego. This is old Pacific Highway Studios and we 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.160 do a Saturday audition show and Budded lined up all 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.760 these guests and I was gonna do like updates that's 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.959 the bed Folo show, right, And none of the guests 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.160 showed up. It was a catastrophe. I mean it was 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.520 the worst radio show ever. I show I had a 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.320 tape of. This show was an absolute bomb. So we're 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.920 driving back to l Igo whether it goes that opportunity 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.960 in San Diego. But they stayed in touch and the 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.640 next thing you know, I get called down to San Diego. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.680 They tell me, look, we don't want but we want you, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.520 and like, what are you talking about? But for a bullshow, 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.120 Well we got this young guy, brad Cess matt Or, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.560 We're gonna put you with him. And I'm like really, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.959 So they hired me and then seven months later Brad 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.320 was out and Chet forty shows up. How much interaction 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.360 do you happen with Chet? Did you have much? Yeah? 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.959 I only met him a few times. It was very nice. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.199 Uh little guy, right, A little guy remember, and uh 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:40.800 you know I I talked to him a bit in 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.280 the newsroom with a high speed sports wire in the 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.520 sports tick, right. But yeah, I didn't talk to him 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.040 too much. There's only a few times I talked to 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.640 him back in those days. But he was great. You 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.760 You and Chet were wonderful. He had all here. I 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.480 don't when he was the money. I'm like, yeah, I 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.240 don't like this novice Right, seven months on the radio, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.360 I'm still trying to figure out if this is anything 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.000 I have any interest in doing, and they stick me 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.040 with you know, Chet forty, and I'm thinking, didn't we 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.360 interview him talking about how he was facing a prison 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.360 sentence for federal tax evasion, like he was going to 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.240 go to prison, And now we're gonna hire this guy 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.120 to be my partner. And I remember John Lynch of 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.400 the gather on ran our station, looked at me and 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.160 he goes, you better make this work. And I'm like, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.120 so my whole career, as short as it was at 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.040 that point, is writing on me trying to figure out 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.320 how to do a radio show with a guy that 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.839 he had even less radio experience than I had. So 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.960 we who are really two guys? And then, you know, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.840 back in those days, like sports talk radio was pretty mild, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.520 wasn't too much noise going on, but early on Chet 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.440 Night just started screaming at each other like he wasn't 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.200 ready for a young guy to challenge anything he had 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.959 to say. I was like, if you say one more 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.640 stupid thing, I swear to him a knock in tomorrow. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.440 I mean, we got so heated on the air. All 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.040 I kept thinking is my radio career is going to 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.600 end before even begins. And then there was an article 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.240 in the Union Tribune Dwan in San Diego did this 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.440 glowing review of our radio show. I'm radios think is 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.400 this guy listening to what I'm listening to? And from 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.400 that point on, and of course we got the name 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.720 of loose Cannons from ax Off, who was getting inundated 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.440 with phone calls on his show, which came on after ours, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:33.400 the people complaining about our show that these guys are 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.600 off their charts, are ripping the chargers and everything else. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.280 And he called us a couple of loose cannons. And 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.520 you know how nickname works, and like, you don't give 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.240 yourself a nickname. So somebody called the facts that had 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.640 said this, and the next caller said, hey, loose cannons, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.960 and that's how it started. I just want like wildfire 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.000 from that point on, so those five years would said, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.319 it's hard to believe. Now it's going to be twenty 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.760 five years since he passed away, coming up here on 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:09.040 May eighteen, the team then, is the anniversary of Chet 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.319 passing away. I can't believe that. I can't believe it's 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.000 been that long and you guys did so well, and 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.679 then you've you've kept the Loose Cannons brand going all 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.080 these years. How many different Loose Cannons? I know you 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.920 did the show after Chet passed away, you changed it up, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.439 and then you went to l A and you did 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.599 the show with Victor Brick and Michael Thompson and Pat O'Brien, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.199 and uh, how many different incarnations have there been of 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.080 the Loose Cannons. Well, let's let's be I I don't 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.360 know if I have any real standing in the history 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.240 of sports talk radio, but I can safely say that 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.559 no one has hosted a show with more co host 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.120 than I have in sports radio history. I mean, I've 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.839 done shows with you who have a Night and on 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.040 his show with in my career, so I guarantee you 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.240 I hold that record without a doubt. But the true 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.520 Loose Cannons after Chet forty was Philly Billy morn Dell. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.480 Then I came up to Los Angeles and Michael Thompson 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.840 and Victor Brick, and then they got rid of it. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.079 When I did the National show with Chris Myers, it 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.760 was Myers apartment. I hated that we went back to 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.760 the Loose Cannons and we brought in Paddle Brian and 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.960 then after I went down to San Diego, they brought 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.320 the Loose Cannon brand back that you're not gonna believe this. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.120 You readed for this, Ben, So I get moved. In December, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.120 the Morning show in San Diego, the Fox affiliate got 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.160 taken out by budget cuts, so sort of like when 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.760 the pandemic began, and was sort of like, uh, you know, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.720 we're gonna flatten the curve for a couple of weeks, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.320 I like Boston San Diego said can you just temporarily 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.080 fill in on the morning show. I'm still on the 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.960 morning show and like partners rich Ornberger and John Shaeffer 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.520 who did the afternoon they're still called the Loose Cannons. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:54.560 What so the lud Cannon so and people are like, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.360 where's horror? How can you have a show called the 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.040 Loose Cannons without Hartmen? But that's that is right now. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.680 The afternoon show and I think thirteen six D in 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.920 San Diego is called The Lewis Cannons with rich Overberger, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.160 John Paper and I'll do on the Morne Show. Oh 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.520 wait wait see see see if I went on I 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.000 went on the podcast. I was I went through the 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.240 thirteen sixty page and I was like, all right, I 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.520 want to see what's going on here and do my 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.400 due diligence. And I saw the Louis Cannon's name, and 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.280 I didn't see your picture, and I thought, well, maybe 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.200 you just didn't want your picture used or something. I 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.000 didn't I didn't realize that you weren't even part of 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.480 that show right now. That's crazy. Yeah, it's it's unbelieving. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.120 People are confused, like and there are people like, have 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.000 you left the stage and I got in there, Oh, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.360 I'm on the mornings. You know how this works, Yeah, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.440 he'll got your audience. Then people people have a certain show, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.520 whether it's the mornings, mid day's, afternoons, late night, whatever 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.240 that they're walking into. They don't necessarily know the entire 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.520 line up at the station. They just know the shows 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.480 that they listened to. And so they're people like you 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.200 know my Twitter at cafase, but too if you let 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.960 the stage, I go, oh, I'm on the morning. I'm 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.280 doing a morning show now for six to nine. So 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.240 it is. It is one of the great revelations though 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.720 Steve and I learned that over the years being in radio, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.040 that you know, you think you're the most important person 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.440 to somebody's life, but really it's just the time you're 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.400 on they happen to be listening. And if you're not 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.000 there there, you know they they might like you, but 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.160 they're not gonna really most people are gonna go out 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.000 of their way, you know that. It's it's like, if 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.040 you're there, it's convenient, they'll listen. If not, sorry, I 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.520 wonder what happened, but I'll move on. Its crazy today today, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.000 literally today on our text line during the morning show, 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.320 I've been doing radio for thirty two years now, NonStop, 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.040 thirty two years, much of this time, seven days a week, right, 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.240 And somebody texted me and goes, I've never heard this 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.760 Steve Harpin guy, but I really like what he has 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:55.400 to say. So yeah, two years somebody today hit in, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.920 let's see in the morning show saying I've never heard 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.600 this Steve Harpin guy before, but I really like what 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.480 he has to say. Um, I think he's got a 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.639 chance to make it. I think Steve Hartman can have 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.200 a long career in a Hall of fame career in radio. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.240 That's what I think, yes, I guess I don't think 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.359 it's great. You always think like everyone's followed your entire 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:17.440 career oligiously. And you know, I've had people Michael Thompson, 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:18.960 believe it or not, came in our show. I have 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.359 Michael every once in a while, and he was upset 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.040 that we were calling the show loose cannons. He goes, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.440 we were the original loose Cannons, and I'm like, actually, weren't. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.160 Michael forty was the original loose Gannon. He got hammered 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.720 on social media. No, you're loose cannon history. Be sure 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.440 to catch live editions of The Ben Miller Show weekdays 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.040 at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.720 Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Be sure to 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.560 catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.320 two aim eastern eleven pm Pacific. Guys, I I know 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.520 a little something of something, but I'm gonna make an 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.080 educated guest here, and I'm gonna say that guy that 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:01.359 made that compliment to Steve was not was not Don 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:09.399 Martin Martin moment, so I have to go third rails. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.360 So Steve like it's not been all like smooth sailing 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:18.159 sun rainbows. You wouldn't Don Martin have had that, You 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.520 guys have gone back in forth in year's rain Well, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.840 let's let's talk about the whole John Martin association. So 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.600 here's what happened, guys. So we were sailing along at 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:32.159 six ninety quite nicely, and they launched eleven fifty. Then 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:38.160 you're obviously very familiar with the eleven fifty back in seven. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:44.159 Yet I'm sorry. In seven they launched Mark. What was 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.119 Marty Mark was going to be the l A counterpart 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.600 at six nine, and this is when JA Corp. Had 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:56.920 acquired uh the from what was called was our original 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:01.360 Stations for Dead anyway, you So this require did car 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.400 eventually get swallowed up by Clear Channel. So the idea 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.480 was they had a guy named Jack Evans, and Jack 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.800 Evans was running the show, and he was saying that 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.680 six ninety would be San Diego and eleven fifty was 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.760 going to be l A. And I remember asking, why 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.520 would they stop listening to six nine in l A 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.159 because we had a huge l A Orange cadey audience. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.920 He goes, they will, Well, I guess what they didn't. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.760 So we get the two thousand and two and it's 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.080 right around the time of the World Series when the 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.159 Angels beat the Giants. I'll never forget this. So I 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.119 had gotten a phone call a couple of months earlier 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.840 from this Robin Berta Lucci, and she was running Camp five, 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.960 but she was sort of overseeing the eleven fifty operation. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.959 There seemed to be transition, you know, like Dave Smith 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.320 had been let go, and you know some of the 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.240 guys you all know from those eleven fifty days. So 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.040 we were assuming as soon as the season was over, 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.359 because their contract with the Dodgers was running out, that 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.160 that would be end of eleven fifty and at six 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.800 Mammy would just hold as we had been before eleven fifty. 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.240 But I get this phone call from this Robin Berta 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.879 Luci and she says, yeah, could you fill in on 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.680 the afternoon show on eleven fifty this week? And I'm 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:19.200 like what. So we had our boss, Bill Pew, who 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.920 happens to be the brother of Dan Patrick. Dan Patrick's 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.159 real name is Dan Pew, by the way, as you 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.359 guys know. So anyway, I go to a Bill pe Are, 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.560 our programming guy at six man Ago I get the 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.840 weirdest phone call from this Robin burta Lucien, she wants 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.320 me to do the afternoon show. This will be line. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.440 I don't want to overstate my importance, but it was 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.360 sort of like the Clippers calling the Lakers saying, can 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.720 we ball Kobe for a game? You know, like you know, 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.480 just good? He could he work for us, and his 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.679 reaction was sort of like what do you think? I'm like, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:49.640 what do you mean? What I think? If you look 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.560 at midday show here? You want me to do the 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.640 afternoon show on that other station will never happened because 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.679 they got into the World Series and everything else. And 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.400 then the day will all remember was the day that 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:07.560 it was Halloween two thousand two. Billy Wendell and I 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.920 just finished doing our midday show and we finished the 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.479