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Speaker 3: It's the Vikings and the Rams. It's one of those
Speaker 3: weird games.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I know they've relocated this game to Arizona because of
Speaker 3: the fires in Los Angeles. The Vikings are favored by
Speaker 3: two and a half, it just doesn't feel like they're
Speaker 3: really favored by two and a half. Feels like no
Speaker 3: one's going to be surprised if the Rams win this game.
Speaker 3: The Vikings are a really good team, and I think
Speaker 3: this almost feels like the line is was predicated on
Speaker 3: how the Vikings played against the Lions, where they got
Speaker 3: roughed up, and then people go, Okay, that's the Sam
Speaker 3: Darnold we thought was going to emerge.
Speaker 2: What's one game?
Speaker 3: And I think that's surprising that it is two and
Speaker 3: a half Now it's on a neutral site in Arizona.
Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that with Ross Tucker and Tony
Speaker 3: Dungee coming up. Still have some openings, the Bears, the Jags,
Speaker 3: the Jets, the Raiders, the Saints, the Patriots. In one
Speaker 3: of the worst kept secrets, hired Mike Rabel. Did they
Speaker 3: do everything they were supposed to do according to the
Speaker 3: letter of the NFL law. We'll talk to Tony Dungee
Speaker 3: about that, and that'll be coming up a little bit later.
Speaker 3: On the Bills roughed up the Broncos. It's one of
Speaker 3: those the Broncos scored and I go, all right, maybe
Speaker 3: we'll have no, we're not going to Then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, it was all Bills all the time.
Speaker 2: The Eagles. I thought the Eagles were like.
Speaker 3: A three touchdown like at least three touchdowns better than
Speaker 3: the Packers the way they played it, just they couldn't
Speaker 3: put them away. And the Commanders last night with Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 3: I can't call him a rookie anymore. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could call him a rookie the way he
Speaker 3: played this year. He's the first rookie since at least
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty to lead his team in both passing yards
Speaker 3: and rushing yards in a playoff win. Like he's starting
Speaker 3: to create a category onto himself. Also, five go ahead
Speaker 3: touchdown passes in the fourth quarter overtime this season. The
Speaker 3: last time you had a quarterback who put up those
Speaker 3: kind of numbers Russell Wilson Junior the third in twenty twelve.
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Speaker 3: and worst of the weekend. Operator Tyler is sitting by.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there was a surprise this weekend.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe how badly the Bills roughed up the Broncos
Speaker 3: in the second half. The Commanders we talked about that
Speaker 3: we weren't going to be surprised if they won. I
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be surprised if the Packers beat the Eagles.
Speaker 3: The Texans over the Chargers. Chargers didn't score touchdowns, couple
Speaker 3: of field goals, and I kept thinking, when you're on
Speaker 3: the road, you can't kick field goals and win. You
Speaker 3: gotta score touchdown. You really have to make that team
Speaker 3: start to rethink what their approach is going to be.
Speaker 3: And they weren't able to do that with the Texans
Speaker 3: as they rough up the Chargers and Justin Herbert deservedly
Speaker 3: so deserves a lot of blame.
Speaker 2: That was a mess.
Speaker 3: And the Ravens handled the Steelers twenty eight to fourteen.
Speaker 3: They never really put them away, but it did feel
Speaker 3: like the Ravens were a better team. I'm just not
Speaker 3: sure if there was a huge surprise where you go, wow,
Speaker 3: I didn't expect that. Now maybe the Commanders. And this
Speaker 3: is how the game ended with the Commanders last night
Speaker 3: from thirty.
Speaker 1: Seven to send Washington to.
Speaker 2: The final eight, Welsington.
Speaker 6: Around.
Speaker 3: Believe them, Mike Jerico with the call, they dink their
Speaker 3: way to the next round. You know, even going back,
Speaker 3: it was such a long You had the Texas Ohio
Speaker 3: State game on Friday night that was a lot closer
Speaker 3: than the scorer would indicate the final score because they're
Speaker 3: going in to tie that game. Jack Sawyer makes an
Speaker 3: unbelievable play on his former roommate Quinn Hewers, and Ohio
Speaker 3: State moves on.
Speaker 2: In Ohio State.
Speaker 3: I think the first line I saw was they were
Speaker 3: favored by nine and a half against Notre Dame. Some
Speaker 3: of the other point spreads for the divisional rounds, you
Speaker 3: got the Texans getting eight and a half against the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: Commanders getting eight and a half against the Lions, and
Speaker 3: the Ravens are getting one and a half against the
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. Un thank you, Polly, thank you, Pony. All Right,
Speaker 3: we'll get to poll questions coming up. Our one poll question, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, I was pretty surprised that the
Speaker 7: Chargers no showed after the first quarter. When that first
Speaker 7: quarter was over, I was like, the Chargers are going
Speaker 7: to steal this one. They're rolling, They're not great, but
Speaker 7: field goals and the Texans I think had four punts
Speaker 7: in a turnover. I if you stopped that game at
Speaker 7: the end of the first quarter, I would have put
Speaker 7: money on the Chargers.
Speaker 2: That's the surprise thing.
Speaker 3: I thought they had a game plan, but they didn't
Speaker 3: score touchdowns, and I thought maybe the Texans got a
Speaker 3: good defense.
Speaker 2: So I thought if CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud and Joe Mixon was wonderful, that if they got
Speaker 3: a couple of touchdowns. Now I put the pressure on
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert, and you saw exactly what
Speaker 3: happened when pressure was applied. That that was like a tourniquet.
Speaker 3: That was bad and Justin Herbert's got to wear this.
Speaker 3: You know, we had the collapse against Jacksonville a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, but they were up twenty seven and
Speaker 3: then this one as well.
Speaker 2: Look there quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it metastasizes when it comes to the postseason, we've
Speaker 3: seen quarterbacks. It just certainly in the Super Bowl, somebody
Speaker 3: will have a bad game and then it becomes a
Speaker 3: terrible game, or somebody's having a good game, it becomes
Speaker 3: a great game. These bigger games, sometimes that happens. It's
Speaker 3: just justin Herbert couldn't get out of his own way.
Speaker 3: There was one interception that wasn't his fault. It was
Speaker 3: his tight end's fault there. But still we put pressure
Speaker 3: on these quarterbacks. We give them too much credit, too
Speaker 3: much blame. And now you have the MVP Bowl coming
Speaker 3: up here. You got Josh Allen and you got Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: I was told Sours said Lamar Jackson's winning the MVP.
Speaker 3: And I said, why do you say that? And he said, well,
Speaker 3: I always look at the all Pro votes, not Pro Bowl,
Speaker 3: but all Pro votes, and Lamar Jackson there was quite
Speaker 3: a bit of separation between him and Josh Allen, but
Speaker 3: they both played great. Lamar is wonderful, But you start
Speaker 3: to look at these running backs. Saquon Barkley, he was great,
Speaker 3: although I think their betters might not be too pleased
Speaker 3: with Saquon Barkley could have scored the touchdown and then
Speaker 3: he slides because I think they were going for that
Speaker 3: was a anytime touch He was the most bet anytime
Speaker 3: touchdown guy this weekend, so.
Speaker 2: You're going he's going to score.
Speaker 3: And then he slid because if they got a first down,
Speaker 3: then the game was over. He said, no game was over.
Speaker 3: I just I slid. All these betters are going, I'm
Speaker 3: going to cap, I'm going to cash in on this
Speaker 3: not the case, but lamar Derrick Henry and we could
Speaker 3: argue what was a bigger offseason move getting Derrick Henry
Speaker 3: or getting Saquon Barkley, and it might be a push.
Speaker 3: I just want to see what happens in the postseason
Speaker 3: because regular season unbelievable numbers. It's when you must get
Speaker 3: those yards? Can you get those yards? And those two
Speaker 3: guys are going to be just as instrumental as their quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: if not more so. And I think that's something that
Speaker 3: you know, we haven't really been factoring it in. Also
Speaker 3: defensive minded coaches, because we get caught up in O'Connell,
Speaker 3: Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan offensive minded coaches. If you look
Speaker 3: at what defensive coaches have done, you know, d you
Speaker 3: started with Dan Campbell, you got Demiko Ryans, you got
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn, you got Sean McDermott. These are defensive minded coaches,
Speaker 3: and I think you got to remember that with the postseason,
Speaker 3: they're running the football and defense is stressed in a
Speaker 3: different way than it has been before. Now you still
Speaker 3: want to play great defense, the question is can you?
Speaker 3: And we've seen that so far. All right, seton setan pole.
Speaker 2: Question today?
Speaker 8: Which quarterback had the worst weekend? Justin Herbert, Jordan Love,
Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Okay, Baker Mayfield had a big fumble with eleven minutes
Speaker 3: to go. He only threw eighteen times. I think it
Speaker 3: was fifteen of eighteen, but that was a huge, huge play.
Speaker 3: Jordan Love three interceptions. But I think that those two
Speaker 3: teams still had chances to win. Justin Herbert Chargers didn't
Speaker 3: have a chance. And this is another thing to factor in.
Speaker 3: And we said this at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 3: Gone are the days where Justin Herbert's going to throw
Speaker 3: for five thousand yards and thirty nine touchdowns. That's not
Speaker 3: Jim Harball's game plan. Harball wants to have a big
Speaker 3: offensive line, run the football, play good defense. Just like
Speaker 3: that happened at Michigan Justin Herbert, and we said this
Speaker 3: will statistically be one of his worst seasons because of that,
Speaker 3: they're not going to be leading with the pass. He
Speaker 3: had four interceptions, three interceptions the entire year regular season
Speaker 3: and then four yesterday. So he did have an incredible
Speaker 3: season taking care of the football, and this was a
Speaker 3: big reason why the Chargers are in the postseason. They
Speaker 3: did not have turnovers, they played great defense, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudd uddon Justin Herbert with four interceptions.
Speaker 3: So I would say that he had by far and
Speaker 3: away the worst game perception wise. I don't think people
Speaker 3: are going to look at Jordan Love and go look
Speaker 3: at what he did against Dallas last year, and I
Speaker 3: think he can still live off that. I think Baker
Speaker 3: had a really really good season. That's back to back
Speaker 3: really good seasons going to the playoffs. And you know,
Speaker 3: Mike Evans had a wonderful season. They were a good team.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't have been surprised if they won, but we
Speaker 3: weren't going to be surprised if the Commanders won.
Speaker 2: But I would say it's.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, then Jordan Love, and then Baker Mayfield Mayfield
Speaker 3: had the fumble, but they could have won that game.
Speaker 3: Any other pole questions that you're thinking about, Seaton for
Speaker 3: the first hour.
Speaker 8: You want to preview of our two's pole question, I
Speaker 8: can give you that.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: Okay, losing NFL team from this weekend, that should feel
Speaker 8: the goodest about their future.
Speaker 3: But you should still feel good the goodest. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think that's grammatically correct. Is that right, Ton?
Speaker 2: The goodest?
Speaker 9: It would be goodest? That is exactly right.
Speaker 2: Okay, got any Bronco gear on today?
Speaker 9: I do not.
Speaker 4: I'm wearing somber gray black t they lost.
Speaker 9: Still waiting to get a possession. Maybe we can get
Speaker 9: a chance to.
Speaker 2: Have the ball.
Speaker 3: I you know what, when they scored the touchdown to start,
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, that little guy is sitting there
Speaker 3: with all his Bronco gears, got his bobbleheads and the
Speaker 3: penants and hats and everything. Your your Bronco color Adidas.
Speaker 2: I was remarkably.
Speaker 9: Reserved, knowing that they were trying to pull me in.
Speaker 4: They're gonna trick where they're gonna come out and some
Speaker 4: BIG's gonna happen here.
Speaker 9: But I didn't buy into it. I didn't. I was
Speaker 9: excited to see that, but I didn't buy it.
Speaker 3: Isn't the weird Do you think the Broncos uniform had anything.
Speaker 2: To do with their subpar play? Yes, without questions, Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 7: Marvin looks so good against the Chiefs on the looks
Speaker 7: wise and on the field.
Speaker 3: Well, when Seton set out a text, a group text,
Speaker 3: and he goes, the Broncos uniforms are but.
Speaker 2: Butt Yeah it was but ugly. Yeah.
Speaker 8: No one has ever won anything major wearing orange pants.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Tennessee fans are like, yeah, well you should see what
Speaker 8: it's ugly.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: Sean's right though. The buttet's ears when they won, their
Speaker 7: pants were pewter. They were not orange.
Speaker 2: They were not orange.
Speaker 8: No one has ever won anything great in orange pewter.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you had a good season, Todd.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 4: I was hoping it would be a little more competitive
Speaker 4: in the second half. Once that field goal point that
Speaker 4: would have tied to ten, I started feeling a little
Speaker 4: bit of that momentum.
Speaker 9: That they could have had that they lost.
Speaker 2: Going into the book, I agree. When that happened, I
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 7: Oh uh oh, yeah, isn't the weirdest thing this year?
Speaker 7: That the Buffalo Bills have become a run first team.
Speaker 7: Forty four carries two hundred and ten yards, and two
Speaker 7: years ago that was the story. Oh they got a
Speaker 7: bunch of decent running backs, they can never establish the run.
Speaker 7: They leave Josh Allen hung out to dry. It's very
Speaker 7: weird how much that's changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're seeing teams run the football now. It's
Speaker 3: just that's part of the game plan. Where it used
Speaker 3: to be can you run the football? It's you, we
Speaker 3: will run the football. And you saw that yet you
Speaker 3: saw that all weekend long.
Speaker 2: But you're right.
Speaker 3: I think they look at Josh Allen is just he's
Speaker 3: another running back there playing quarterback and that ability to
Speaker 3: control the line of scrimmage. Cook is when was Cook drafted?
Speaker 3: Like was he a third or fourth round draft pick?
Speaker 3: But you know they got a couple of running backs
Speaker 3: they run hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauling he was the final pick of the second
Speaker 7: round in twenty twenty two. He makes one point two
Speaker 7: million dollars a season. Yeah, we've talked about this before.
Speaker 7: You wanted to do an MVP based off salary, he
Speaker 7: would be in there this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that should factor in.
Speaker 3: I've said this before when a Rod won MVP in
Speaker 3: baseball and Big Poppy I thought was more of an
Speaker 3: MVP if I factored in he made five million and
Speaker 3: a Rod made I think twenty five million. I got
Speaker 3: to factor that into value. But they don't. All right,
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Speaker 2: What you saw that you liked you didn't like.
Speaker 3: He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports Westwood One, NFL college football
Speaker 3: analyst and hope to the Ross Tunker Football podcast Busy Man.
Speaker 3: He was on the call last night with the Packers
Speaker 3: and the Eagles. Also on the sidelines for the Steelers
Speaker 3: and the Ravens, and he'll be in the booth with
Speaker 3: Kevin Harland for the Texans Chiefs on Saturday in the
Speaker 3: divisional playoff. And get ready to hear this voice very
Speaker 3: often over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Ross Dallas Goddard is a beast.
Speaker 5: The Philadelphia Eagles cannot be stopped.
Speaker 9: Look at what he did to Valentine. That's an embarrassment.
Speaker 9: Ross Tucker.
Speaker 1: Hi, Ron, Hey, Dan, you know what I want.
Speaker 12: I think you at some point this week, maybe Friday,
Speaker 12: you could do a play by play, like do a
Speaker 12: couple plays with Fritzy doing his Kevin Harlan and Paulie
Speaker 12: doing his terrible impression of me. However, Pauly, that like
Speaker 12: that would be I guarantee I will cut the clip I'll.
Speaker 1: Put on social media.
Speaker 12: If you guys do a couple play, do a series
Speaker 12: of it seeing Paulie as Kevin Harlan and me, that'd
Speaker 12: be amazing.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Fritzy, why don't you give us a
Speaker 3: little bit of the Chiefs against the Texans and then
Speaker 3: Paulie will jump in and be the analyst on the call.
Speaker 5: Patrick mahomes back to passing avoids the ruts. He's going
Speaker 5: down the sideline and that's another twelve yards for Patrick
Speaker 5: and another first down for Kansas City.
Speaker 7: I love behoves, behooves can get the ball in the
Speaker 7: pocket like anybody at Kansas City.
Speaker 1: The other thing about Kansas City sauce on ribs. Look
Speaker 1: it up, Google it, legit.
Speaker 2: There you go, Ross, you asked for it, you got
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Where do you want to start here? Do you want
Speaker 3: to start with the Eagles against the Packers or you
Speaker 3: want to go back to the Steelers' loss?
Speaker 1: I actually want to talk about the Steelers.
Speaker 12: I want to start there because you know, Dan, I
Speaker 12: live in central Pennsylvania, right, so where I live now,
Speaker 12: it's like fifty to fifty Eagles fans Steelers. I grew
Speaker 12: up closer to Philly and grew up as an Eagles fan.
Speaker 12: I can't remember watching a Pittsburgh Steelers team get beat
Speaker 12: up physically that badly. You know, everybody focuses, I feel
Speaker 12: like on the quarterback situation, and in fairness, they're in
Speaker 12: a tough spot there, like what's your solution or anybody's
Speaker 12: solution for the Steelers to get a quarterback that can
Speaker 12: compete with Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, like,
Speaker 12: it's hard that they're in a tough spot there, but
Speaker 12: that's that's a separate issue their defense.
Speaker 1: Dan, this is the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward, TJ.
Speaker 12: Watt, You're paying Patrick Queen, you're paying Mink and Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: They have a lot Alex Heismith getting paid.
Speaker 12: They have a lot of resources invested.
Speaker 1: In that unit.
Speaker 12: And for the Ravens to have two hundred and fifty
Speaker 12: yards rushing with six minutes left in the third quarter.
Speaker 12: And by the way, the Ravens have had one Pro
Speaker 12: Bowl receiver in franchise history. He's eight Flowers.
Speaker 1: He was out for the game.
Speaker 12: He was not playing in the game. So they don't
Speaker 12: have by far their best receiver. And you allow the
Speaker 12: Ravens to run you over like that. It had to
Speaker 12: be embarrassing for a Steelers fan to watch. I thought
Speaker 12: that was one of the most notable. Like, if you
Speaker 12: told me best and worst of the weekend, I would
Speaker 12: say worst of the weekend was watching the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 12: get run over, around and through by Derrick Henry and
Speaker 12: the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Well, let's look at what happens in the offseason with
Speaker 3: the Steelers, you have Russell Wilson. I don't think Mike
Speaker 3: Tomlin's going anywhere, So what changes do you see with them?
Speaker 1: I agree about Tomlin.
Speaker 12: He's a good coach, I will say, and we probably
Speaker 12: talked about this last week. There's a gigantic disconnect between
Speaker 12: how people feel about him nationally and how the locals
Speaker 12: feel about him because he hasn't won a playoff game
Speaker 12: in fever. But I would also submit to you and
Speaker 12: how many of those playoff games did he have the
Speaker 12: better quarterback?
Speaker 1: How many of those playoff games? The problem is, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody wants them to get somebody better.
Speaker 12: How are you going to do that? You know, we
Speaker 12: have to live in the real world. They're not going
Speaker 12: to draft somebody. They're not gonna draft high enough. So
Speaker 12: who could the Steelers get that's better. Do they take
Speaker 12: a swing in Aaron Rodgers? Do they go way out
Speaker 12: of character and try to pay a lot of money
Speaker 12: for Sam Darnold? I mean, these other guys, they're just
Speaker 12: not available. To get a top ten guy, it just
Speaker 12: doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: I actually thought.
Speaker 12: Russell Wilson Junior the third played pre darn Well in
Speaker 12: the second half of that game and gave them a
Speaker 12: chance to win. If I'm the Steelers, maybe I have
Speaker 12: somebody else can be with him, but he's probably your
Speaker 12: best option to win a bunch of games next year
Speaker 12: and have a chance to win a playoff game.
Speaker 3: But we make it seem like Mike Tomlin's not involved
Speaker 3: in decisions to get these quarterbacks. Is it just, Hey,
Speaker 3: the front office takes care of this, and we're going
Speaker 3: to get you a quarterback and you'll just make him better.
Speaker 3: I imagine he's involved, given his tenure with his Steelers. He's
Speaker 3: involved in who they're bringing in. So there is culpability
Speaker 3: throughout the Steelers, including Mike Tomlin with them.
Speaker 12: No question, he's definitely involved because I know he's a
Speaker 12: big Russell Wilson fan. I actually thought bringing in both
Speaker 12: Justin Fields and Russell Wilson this offseason was really smart
Speaker 12: to kind of give you two bites at the Apple.
Speaker 12: They exceeded expectations. I think their season win total was
Speaker 12: eight and a half, so they exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1: Obviously they faltered down the stretch.
Speaker 12: There's no question Dan that he's part of taking the quarterback,
Speaker 12: no doubt about it. But how nobody everybody complained about
Speaker 12: the Steelers quarterback situation doesn't have a solution. So you
Speaker 12: want them to try to lose every game for next
Speaker 12: year and then have the number one pick and take
Speaker 12: the quarterback next year. Like they can't trade for somebody
Speaker 12: that's better than what they have. Those guys aren't getting traded.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 12: Maybe they'll be Derek Carr, you know, maybe it's Aaron
Speaker 12: rd I don't know what.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get a top ten guy.
Speaker 12: They're gonna have to do whatever they can to get
Speaker 12: the best guy available.
Speaker 3: You've got the addition of Derrick Henry with Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 3: and I always felt like it seemed like the Ravens
Speaker 3: got one dimensional in the playoffs, maybe you start to
Speaker 3: panic a little bit. They don't have to be one dimensional.
Speaker 3: They can be two dimensional running and then add another
Speaker 3: dimension with the passing of Lamar Jackson and hopefully you
Speaker 3: get Zay Flowers back. But what makes this raven team different?
Speaker 12: I love that point, Dan Love love love that point
Speaker 12: because it's funny. I did the Ravens Browns game earlier
Speaker 12: in the year and we were talking with Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 12: or Jim Harbo, John Harbaugh about Derrick Henry, and he
Speaker 12: has a nice way of just kind of telling you
Speaker 12: like it is. He said, you know what we were
Speaker 12: talking about, and I said, we're a running team. What
Speaker 12: it would be like if we had a really good runner,
Speaker 12: you know, because the Ravens have been a running team
Speaker 12: of Lamar Jackson, but they've never really had like.
Speaker 1: A really good running back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: JK.
Speaker 12: Dobbins was pretty good, but he kept getting hurt. And
Speaker 12: they've had like Gus Eard, They've had guys and they've
Speaker 12: had a lot of success running it because of the
Speaker 12: scheme and because of Lamar. But this is like the
Speaker 12: grand experiment that's working fabulously is to actually have a really,
Speaker 12: really good running back like Derrick Henry, which makes them
Speaker 12: so difficult to defend the And by the way, I
Speaker 12: don't think it's a great matchup for the Bills. I mean,
Speaker 12: I love the Bills. That was my favorite team I
Speaker 12: played for out of the five. And it's good that
Speaker 12: they have a home game. But that is going to
Speaker 12: be tough because as much as you want to stop
Speaker 12: the run, there's a lot of times because of Lamar
Speaker 12: that you don't really have a very good solution, and
Speaker 12: your solution to put everybody in there, Well, then you're
Speaker 12: manning up the tight ends and they run play action
Speaker 12: pass and both likely and Mark Andrews, you're putting your
Speaker 12: linebackers or safety is in a tough spot. I mean,
Speaker 12: there's a reason why Lamar had the ridiculous stats he
Speaker 12: had is because there really aren't that many good answers
Speaker 12: for a defense with having Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry
Speaker 12: in the same backfield.
Speaker 3: And the Ravens are favored by one and a half
Speaker 3: against the Bills. We're talking Ross Tucker, CBA Sports, Westwood
Speaker 3: One and host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
Speaker 2: How should we look at Justin Hurt.
Speaker 12: I think the same way we always have. I think
Speaker 12: he's a very good quarterback. And I said this, you know,
Speaker 12: I did that Patriots Chargers game for NFL Network.
Speaker 1: He's a very good quarterback.
Speaker 12: A lot of teams would love to have him, but
Speaker 12: we're not gonna consider him an elite quarterback until we
Speaker 12: feel like he elevates the guys around him to the
Speaker 12: point where he's winning some playoff games, you know, I mean,
Speaker 12: and that's that's just the reality of the situation. Look
Speaker 12: a lot of people aren't gonna put Josh Allen and
Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson in certain categories until they get to a
Speaker 12: super Bowl and win it. We're not gonna put Herbert
Speaker 12: even in their category until he finds a way to
Speaker 12: be able to take this team to the next level.
Speaker 12: In fairness to him, their old line got wrecked and
Speaker 12: they have a bottom five receiving corps in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So they exceeded expectations.
Speaker 12: They did not have the same personnel as the Texans
Speaker 12: or even most these teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They knew it, you know. Talking with the Chargers coaches,
Speaker 1: I think they kind of knew it.
Speaker 12: That they were a year away from being a legitimate contender.
Speaker 12: They're gonna get better on the interior zero line, They're
Speaker 12: gonna get better at receiver, and Herbert's gonna have a
Speaker 12: much better opportunity to actually win a couple of playoff
Speaker 12: games next year and try to get He's like the
Speaker 12: in the friend zone. He's in the good quarterback zone
Speaker 12: right now. He needs to win some playoff games to
Speaker 12: get into that next category.
Speaker 2: Did the Eagles look good or great?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 12: Yeah, they did not look great because they did not
Speaker 12: look very good on offense, their defense was awesome, you know,
Speaker 12: the force four turnovers. They've had the best defense in
Speaker 12: the NFL since the bye week. They were fantastic for
Speaker 12: the most part in that game. But offensively that was rough.
Speaker 12: I mean that Jalen Hurts clearly was rusty. He did
Speaker 12: not play well. I thought the Packers, that decordinator Jeff Hathley,
Speaker 12: had a good plan between you know, forcing Hurts to
Speaker 12: stay in the pocket and make throws from the pocket,
Speaker 12: but then also bringing blitzes at times. I mean, the
Speaker 12: reality is is for the Eagles to go to the
Speaker 12: super Bowl, Hurt's gonna have to play better than that.
Speaker 12: I mean, if he played like that in Detroit, they
Speaker 12: wouldn't win. I don't even know if they would win
Speaker 12: next week against the Rams with the Vikings. If he
Speaker 12: plays like that, he's gonna have to play better than
Speaker 12: he did. I think he will. I mean, he had
Speaker 12: missed almost three full games. That was kind of his
Speaker 12: first game back. I would expect him to have a
Speaker 12: much better performance next week against the winner of tonight's game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just look at Jalen Hurts and I probably
Speaker 3: in the minority. I think he's just a good quarterback
Speaker 3: on a really good team. And look, he had an
Speaker 3: unbelievable super Bowl, could have been the MVP even in
Speaker 3: a losing effort there.
Speaker 2: But I just I'm waiting to see more from him.
Speaker 3: And maybe that's not fair, you know, that's maybe who
Speaker 3: he is for that team, but that's just the indication.
Speaker 2: I always get with him well.
Speaker 12: And Dan, there's no question, I mean, he has not
Speaker 12: been a top ten quarterback in the NFL. This year,
Speaker 12: He's got the best situation a quarterback maybe he has
Speaker 12: ever had. I mean, they have the best offensive line
Speaker 12: in the league. Okay, he is the best running back
Speaker 12: in the league. The tight end Dallas Goddard is a beast.
Speaker 12: He's a top five tight end. The receiver duo is
Speaker 12: at least the top five duo. I mean, we're talking
Speaker 12: about like Troy Atman with the Cowboys, and like, how
Speaker 12: often are you in a situation where every guy around
Speaker 12: you is top five in their spot.
Speaker 1: They should be able to put up a bunch of points.
Speaker 12: He should be able to play better than he did yesterday,
Speaker 12: and they're gonna need him to for sure.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the losing teams.
Speaker 3: We talked about the Steelers let's look ahead to who
Speaker 3: you like better with the Broncos, Packers, and Buccaneers. Who's
Speaker 3: set up for success better?
Speaker 1: I think it's the Packers. Yeah, I think it's the Packers.
Speaker 12: I mean they had this year the second youngest team
Speaker 12: ever in the playoffs. The youngest team ever in the
Speaker 12: playoffs was the Packers last year. I mean, they're all
Speaker 12: home grown. They got really beat up in that game.
Speaker 12: You know, to have no Christian Watson, then you lose
Speaker 12: both Dobbs and Read during the game. They lose their
Speaker 12: best offensive lineman, Elton Jenkins. They lose the turnover battle
Speaker 12: for nothing, and they still were right there. I mean,
Speaker 12: if the turnover battles three to one, do the Packers.
Speaker 1: Win the game?
Speaker 12: If they don't, if they only lose one receiver and
Speaker 12: not three receivers, do they win the game. I think
Speaker 12: the Packers are positioned to have success next year.
Speaker 1: They just they kind of took a step back at
Speaker 1: the end of the season.
Speaker 12: They got to figure out why that was the case
Speaker 12: these last three games and being banged up as part
Speaker 12: of it. But I would still be buying stock in
Speaker 12: the Green Bay Packers. And I didn't think Jordan Love's
Speaker 12: performance was anywhere near what Herbert was thought. I thought
Speaker 12: Jordan Love played pretty well. I mean that the one
Speaker 12: interception of Bond was bad, but the first one.
Speaker 1: Was a great play by Slay.
Speaker 12: The last one he just had to try to make
Speaker 12: a play and they probably should have called interference on Bond.
Speaker 12: I really thought Jordan Love only had one bad interception.
Speaker 12: He had some nice throws. Maybe could have made those
Speaker 12: other touchdown throws down near the goal line in the
Speaker 12: third quarter when they were still right in it. But
Speaker 12: I still I would be bullish on Jordan Love and
Speaker 12: the Packers moving forward.
Speaker 3: I have an assignment for you in this game coming up.
Speaker 3: You have the Texans and the Chiefs. If this happens,
Speaker 3: a receiver caused interception. So let's say go off the
Speaker 3: hands like it did the tight end with the Chargers.
Speaker 3: It's a receiver caused interception an RCI, and then you
Speaker 3: could throw that in and Kevin Harlan would probably then
Speaker 3: acknowledge that. How would Kevin Harlan acknowledge that, You've.
Speaker 5: Got to be kidding me. That is not acceptable. That
Speaker 5: was pretty short. Yeah, So here's the deal.
Speaker 12: Now, everybody has to listen to my broadcast on Saturday.
Speaker 12: If that happens, I'm getting RCI in the broadcast. I
Speaker 12: am getting RCI in the broadcast. Here's the question. Do
Speaker 12: I have to credit you Dan personally? Do you have
Speaker 12: to credit the Dan Patrick Show? Or do I just
Speaker 12: have to get RCI in the game.
Speaker 3: No, don't need to credit me at all. I want
Speaker 3: this to be about you. I want you to hopefully
Speaker 3: get credit for it. Where somebody goes, yeah he went
Speaker 3: to Princeton. Yeah, that's why he came up with RCI.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what's fun about that? Dan, You're gonna
Speaker 1: love this.
Speaker 12: Saturday night during the game, I'm on the sideline and
Speaker 12: I called George Pickens mercurial because George Pickens is mercurial
Speaker 12: and you can't say pain in me whatever on the.
Speaker 1: Radio, right, So he's mercurial.
Speaker 12: And the play by play guy Ryan Rakey and Mike Golick,
Speaker 12: the color analysts, they're making fun of me, and they're
Speaker 12: saying I'm using big words, and they're saying, you know,
Speaker 12: Princeton guy or whatever, which I didn't only look at
Speaker 12: mercurial as being like a fancy word. Sunday mornings, I
Speaker 12: drive back from Baltimore here to Pennsylvania, and I talked
Speaker 12: to my daughters. I asked them first if they've ever
Speaker 12: heard of mercurial. They have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 12: Then I asked my wife and she didn't know, so
Speaker 12: that that's a fail. That's a fail as a radio
Speaker 12: guy if you use a word. My wife's very smart.
Speaker 12: She went to buck now Together NBA from Kellogg. If
Speaker 12: she doesn't know what mercurial means, I should not be
Speaker 12: saying that on the radio.
Speaker 1: That's a bad job by me.
Speaker 2: I think you just called your family dumb, is what
Speaker 2: you said.
Speaker 12: Well, and fairness, my daughters are eleven and twelve, and
Speaker 12: hopefully I'm now praying my wife does not see this clip.
Speaker 12: It's a good thing there aren't five hundred stations around
Speaker 12: the country listening right now.
Speaker 3: And of course everybody knows Mercurial Morris who ran for
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: That was his real name. Mer Curial.
Speaker 9: What Todd the definitions of or having to do with mercury? No,
Speaker 9: it's not, I'm joking.
Speaker 2: I don't that's what a lot of victories.
Speaker 4: We'll take the word and use that as the explanation
Speaker 4: to the meaning or having to do with Mercury.
Speaker 3: Thank you to Ross's great to talk to you. Save travels.
Speaker 3: Remember rc I RCI.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Hopefully it happens.
Speaker 3: All right, Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One, and the
Speaker 3: Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He'll be on the call with
Speaker 3: Kevin Hart Gerland Texans Chiefs. That'll be Saturday, four thirty Eastern. Well,
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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer Tony Dungee Football Night in America analysts
Speaker 3: joining us on the program. Good to see you. Tone
Speaker 3: The philosophy of a coach going into the playoffs. Are
Speaker 3: you more aggressive or more conservative? Does it change up
Speaker 3: in the playoffs as opposed to what you did during
Speaker 3: the regular season.
Speaker 1: For me, I.
Speaker 6: Always trying to be myself and be who we are
Speaker 6: and try not to let it change you.
Speaker 13: But it was very interesting. We had the Commanders last night.
Speaker 6: I talked to Dan Quinn before the game and he said,
Speaker 6: I have to be more aggressive, and he did. They
Speaker 6: went forward on fourth down a couple times went forth
Speaker 6: when I would have kicked field goals myself. But he
Speaker 6: definitely made it a point to be more aggressive and
Speaker 6: let's go try to win this game.
Speaker 2: What do you see from Jadon Daniels That is not.
Speaker 14: Normal, unbelievable poise for a twenty two year old or
Speaker 14: twenty three year old whatever he is, to come into
Speaker 14: those big moments and be able to just function like
Speaker 14: nothing else is going on.
Speaker 6: I was talking to Todd Bowles and the defensive coaches
Speaker 6: before the game. They said, we've got to get the
Speaker 6: ball out of this guy's hands because when he has it,
Speaker 6: he makes things happen.
Speaker 13: And they couldn't do that.
Speaker 6: They blitzed, they played coverages, they did different things. He
Speaker 6: kept the ball, he made great decisions and that's.
Speaker 13: Just beyond those years. For however, he does it.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but when you're drafting somebody, you can
Speaker 3: look at changible items. I can watch you at the combine,
Speaker 3: I can see things on tape.
Speaker 2: Poise is something.
Speaker 3: That I don't know how you measure it or what
Speaker 3: you look for when you're trying to find out if
Speaker 3: somebody has it or doesn't.
Speaker 6: That is the key thing too, especially with quarterbacks. Everybody
Speaker 6: wants to look at arm strength. They want to look
Speaker 6: at all these measurables, and it's really can you process
Speaker 6: information and then can you function in the big moments
Speaker 6: just like it's practice. And that's what this young man
Speaker 6: has done all year. They're winning all these close games.
Speaker 6: At the end, he's making the place to win it.
Speaker 6: And that's what you can't measure. That's what you don't
Speaker 6: know until you get them.
Speaker 3: The team that lost over the weekend, that's in the
Speaker 3: best shape moving forward.
Speaker 6: You never think you're in good shape when you lose.
Speaker 6: Y always look at the couple of plays you could
Speaker 6: have made.
Speaker 3: But you know, run down the list here, okay, I
Speaker 3: said the chart, Steelers, Broncos, Packers, Buccaneers. Out of those teams,
Speaker 3: who is in the best position moving forward for success?
Speaker 6: I'd have to go with the Broncos because I like
Speaker 6: their young quarterback.
Speaker 13: I think they have belief in him.
Speaker 6: They've got a defense that is a playmaking unit, that's aggressive,
Speaker 6: and I think they're going to keep all of those
Speaker 6: elements in place for a while.
Speaker 13: Some of these other teams have some.
Speaker 6: Of the elements, they're going to lose some of them.
Speaker 6: They've got to make decisions. I think the Broncos going
Speaker 6: forward are on the up too.
Speaker 2: If you ran the Steelers, what would you do moving forward?
Speaker 6: I would try to find the long term answer quarterback
Speaker 6: and build around that.
Speaker 13: And I thought the move to get Russell Wilson was
Speaker 13: really good, and in the middle of the year it
Speaker 13: looked like a very good move.
Speaker 6: But somewhere something is just missing and they've got to
Speaker 6: find that quarterback and build on it.
Speaker 13: And I don't know where that comes from. I really don't.
Speaker 6: Dan.
Speaker 3: Do you think did you see enough from Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: that he would hold onto this John?
Speaker 6: I think he could. But then again, what are you
Speaker 6: looking at? Are you looking at another year? Another two years?
Speaker 6: I'd like to get that guy that I can build
Speaker 6: with for the next seven or eight years. But I again,
Speaker 6: I just don't know how you do that. They're not
Speaker 6: picking high enough to get that in the draft. Can
Speaker 6: you go out and find one of these younger twenty
Speaker 6: eight thirty year old quarterbacks.
Speaker 13: I just don't know.
Speaker 6: He might be the best answer for the short term.
Speaker 3: What do you think of Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers?
Speaker 6: I again, that would be a short term answer. I
Speaker 6: don't think that's a good one. Would If I'm going
Speaker 6: to do that, I'd stay with Russell Wilson. I've already
Speaker 6: had a chance to see that for one year. Build
Speaker 6: on that. But I don't know. Maybe justin fields and
Speaker 6: maybe they've saent enough in him to say, hey, he
Speaker 6: could be the answer down the road.
Speaker 13: I'm just not sure.
Speaker 3: If you start to look at these games, you know,
Speaker 3: as we move for if I gave you the Lions
Speaker 3: or the field in the NFC, who you taking?
Speaker 6: I'm probably taking the Lions. But it's gonna come down
Speaker 6: to the Lions in Philadelphia. In my opinion, they're on
Speaker 6: a collision course. Philadelphia has this monstrous defense that can
Speaker 6: really shut people down. Detroit has looked unstoppable on offense.
Speaker 6: They're putting up thirty every week. I don't think They're
Speaker 6: gonna put up thirty on Philadelphia. So the question is
Speaker 6: Phillies offense can it generate enough in the big moments.
Speaker 6: I think that's gonna be a great game, and I
Speaker 6: think that's what we're going to end up seeing.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'll give you the Chiefs or the field
Speaker 2: in the AFC.
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I'd have to take the field because I
Speaker 6: think Baltimore can do some damage. I think Buffalo is
Speaker 6: a problem for Kansas City, the negative for those two teams.
Speaker 6: They've got to play each other and they're gonna knock
Speaker 6: each other out and wear each other down. I think
Speaker 6: Baltimore has a great shot to win this game in Buffalo.
Speaker 6: Not many teams I would pick to go in there
Speaker 6: and win it. But they've got the physicality, they've got
Speaker 6: the mentality. If Lamar Zackson can play his regular season
Speaker 6: game up there in a big moment, they're gonna be
Speaker 6: tough to deal with.
Speaker 3: It's Tony Dungee, the Hall of Famer. Tony won a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl as a player and as a coach. As
Speaker 3: a defensive back, who was that running back that you
Speaker 3: knew it was going to hurt when you had to
Speaker 3: tack him, like these defensive backs who have to go
Speaker 3: against Derrick Henry.
Speaker 13: Derrick Henry.
Speaker 6: You know what, it reminds me of dB Earl Campbell,
Speaker 6: and I can remember our dbs talking to that front forehead.
Speaker 13: You guys are supposed to be the steel curtain. You
Speaker 13: better show up today. We do not want to see
Speaker 13: that man coming through the secondary. He was. You did
Speaker 13: not want to see him with a fullhead of sitting.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: He would just take on and guys would go up
Speaker 3: top with him and try to I just want to
Speaker 3: trip you up. I don't want to try to be
Speaker 3: a man and go up to I'm making a business
Speaker 3: decision with Earl Campbell.
Speaker 13: Yes, he ran over Isaiah Robertson.
Speaker 6: You probably remember the player het his head down and
Speaker 6: just blew him up, and Woody wln't offer. Our defensive
Speaker 6: coordinator was going to run it back and make a point,
Speaker 6: and Lambert.
Speaker 3: Said, don't run that back. How different are the Ravens
Speaker 3: with Derrick Henry. They're different because of the mentality. I
Speaker 3: think that's what they want to be, that's what they
Speaker 3: should be. But now with Henry, they feel like they
Speaker 3: can be that no matter where they are home or
Speaker 3: away no matter what the score is.
Speaker 6: And the crazy thing about it, and one of the
Speaker 6: reasons I actually voted for Lamar Jackson as the Most
Speaker 6: Valuable Player is you watch and they get in that
Speaker 6: zone read and he hands it off, and you'll have
Speaker 6: defenders that won't even chase Dereck Henry because they've got
Speaker 6: to watch Lamar. And if I was a defensive back,
Speaker 6: I'd be sitting there saying, hey, go tackle that big man.
Speaker 13: We'll deal with you. Better go tackle Henry.
Speaker 6: But it's just that double edged sword where you've got
Speaker 6: to defend the whole field.
Speaker 13: You've got to watch Lamar keeping the ball and then
Speaker 13: Henry gets those downhill runs. When they get that going there,
Speaker 13: it's super tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had somebody tell me that when this person votes
Speaker 3: for the MVP, and said, you know, I thought Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson made Derrick Henry better if you look at what
Speaker 3: he was like with Tennessee. They got him and anybody
Speaker 3: else could have gotten Derrick Henry. But you got to
Speaker 3: give Lamar credit because you focus on the mar and
Speaker 3: it allowed Derrick Henry to be a star again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes it's just that perfect storm, the right person
Speaker 6: fitting in. I think Derrick Henry went to the absolute
Speaker 6: best system for him.
Speaker 13: Sakwan Barkley, you could say the same thing.
Speaker 6: Okay, you've got a big offensive line that's creating holes.
Speaker 6: You've got a quarterback that keeps the defense honest and
Speaker 6: they have to defend him.
Speaker 13: And now you've got a two thousand yard back.
Speaker 6: And I think both of those guys just hit the
Speaker 6: perfect system to showcase their talents.
Speaker 3: Any issues with the Patriots hiring Mike Rabel, No.
Speaker 6: I love them hiring Mike Brabel. What I didn't like
Speaker 6: was them firing Jerrod Mayo in one year. When you
Speaker 6: sit there and say, we've got a succession plan. We
Speaker 6: know that eventually Bill Belichick is going to leave, and
Speaker 6: it's all set up.
Speaker 13: We've got this young guy, he knows us, we know him.
Speaker 6: We're going to build this way, and then after twelve
Speaker 6: games or fourteen games, you make a decision to terminate it.
Speaker 6: It doesn't make sense to me. I've told you, and
Speaker 6: I've had this discussion before. Chuck noele One in thirteen
Speaker 6: his first year, Tom Landry won one game. His first year,
Speaker 6: I played on Bill Walsh's first team. We won two games. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's about nine or ten Super Bowls there that wouldn't
Speaker 6: have happened in.
Speaker 13: This era of this.
Speaker 6: Well, if you don't get it done in one year
Speaker 6: and turn it around, Dan Rooney, I remember him telling me,
Speaker 6: I knew I had the right person when we're one thirteen.
Speaker 13: That's when I knew Chuck no was the real deal, and.
Speaker 6: That it's you know, I get so mad that these
Speaker 6: owners don't be impatient. You can't build Rome in a day,
Speaker 6: and especially when Rome's been torn down. So I'm just
Speaker 6: a little frustrated with the Raiders. I'm a little frustrated
Speaker 6: with the Patriots right now. Let things play out. Give
Speaker 6: these young guys a chance.
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots realize they never should have promised
Speaker 3: Yourrod Mayo the job, even though they put it in
Speaker 3: his contract, and therefore they were going to they had
Speaker 3: to let him coach one year. I think they wanted
Speaker 3: Rabel last year, but they were tied up with this
Speaker 3: contract with your odd mail.
Speaker 6: Maybe that was the case. And Mike Vrabel is a
Speaker 6: proven winner. He's been there, he knows them, they know him.
Speaker 6: It makes the logical sense, and he's going to do
Speaker 6: a great job. But I just see these one and
Speaker 6: Done's just bugged me to death because I remember my
Speaker 6: first year Dan with the Bucks.
Speaker 13: We had had thirty team straight losing seasons.
Speaker 6: I come in, we're zero to five and everybody in
Speaker 6: town is sent We're worse off than we've ever been.
Speaker 6: And the owners took me to lunch and said, hey,
Speaker 6: this is not a six week project, it's not a
Speaker 6: nine month project. We're in this together. Well, the next
Speaker 6: year we're ten and six and in the playoffs, and
Speaker 6: it just that's the kind of supports you need.
Speaker 2: Did you think you were being asked to go to
Speaker 2: lunch to get fired.
Speaker 13: I did, I really did.
Speaker 6: When they said hey, we need to talk to you,
Speaker 6: and they're in business suits, I was Okay.
Speaker 13: This might not be good.
Speaker 6: But they surprised me and just said, hey, we understand
Speaker 6: and we're in it, and don't panic. Don't worry about
Speaker 6: these next few weeks. We end up being one and
Speaker 6: eight before we turned it around. But they were perfect,
Speaker 6: and that's what you need.
Speaker 3: Tell me, why now this came up with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: They didn't bring in Jim Harball for an interview, They
Speaker 3: didn't bring in Bill Belichick for an interview. Why wouldn't
Speaker 3: you bring in great you know, football minds like that
Speaker 3: to tell you what they think of your franchise. So
Speaker 3: you would gather information when you come in. So why
Speaker 3: wouldn't you do something like that? That's for you get
Speaker 3: advice for free.
Speaker 1: You could.
Speaker 6: But here's what I think is a big problem in
Speaker 6: the hiring process. A lot of these owners do not
Speaker 6: know what they're looking for. I know I've consulted with
Speaker 6: some and ask them what are they looking for, and
Speaker 6: they just well, who's good out there? And tell me
Speaker 6: this Dan Rooney, to me, it was the perfect, perfect formula.
Speaker 13: Okay, I know what I want.
Speaker 6: I want a young thirtieth guy because I don't want
Speaker 6: to do this every five years. So I don't want
Speaker 6: to hire a fifty year old. I don't want to
Speaker 6: hire a seventy year old. It's going to be a
Speaker 6: young guy. We're a blue collar time, okay, We're built
Speaker 6: around defense. I want hardcore defensive coach, and I want
Speaker 6: a good communicator I want to teach. So in sixty years,
Speaker 6: he hires thirty something year old Chuck Nole, a very
Speaker 6: good communicator, defensive.
Speaker 13: Mind, strong will.
Speaker 6: Then he goes and hires Bill Kauer in his thirties
Speaker 6: defensive coach, strong will communicator.
Speaker 13: Then he hires Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 6: He doesn't go interview everybody because I don't want the
Speaker 6: next thing from outer space. I want a defensive minded, tough,
Speaker 6: young coach. So if you know what you're looking for,
Speaker 6: then you go get that. Now, if you don't know
Speaker 6: what you're looking for, then you've got to talk to
Speaker 6: everybody that comes across, everybody who's recommended to you. But
Speaker 6: my advice to these guys, figure out what you want,
Speaker 6: what works for you, okay, and then go find that.
Speaker 3: Is it just good enough to make the playoffs in
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin or does he have to win?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a long time since they won
Speaker 3: a playoff game.
Speaker 6: It has been a while, and you do have to win,
Speaker 6: and eventually you've got to come into the playoffs hot.
Speaker 6: You've got to build this and you've got to win
Speaker 6: a couple of games in the playoffs.
Speaker 13: And the last three or four years has been very disappointing.
Speaker 6: I thought in mid season they had a team to
Speaker 6: do it, but something happened and the defense just didn't
Speaker 6: play the way that they can play down the stretch,
Speaker 6: and I know ownership's disappointed, the city's disappointed. They've got
Speaker 6: to figure out a way to win a playoff game.
Speaker 2: But you don't move on from Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 13: Let me ask this, who am I going to get
Speaker 13: this better? And that's the thing.
Speaker 6: That's going to go through our Rooney's mind. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: I could move on from Mike Tomlin. What's my next plant?
Speaker 6: And when you look around out there, there's no guarantees
Speaker 6: that you're going to get somebody who knows your organization
Speaker 6: who can build this and do it any better.
Speaker 13: So I think that's what's going through their mind right now.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you a coach, as always, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us, Safe.
Speaker 13: Child, right always. Good to talk to your brother.
Speaker 2: That's Tony Dungee, Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: We'll take a break. We'll give you our best and
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