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Speaker 1: You know when you wear a lot of makeup, they
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Speaker 1: what a week um by accident, I um, you know,
Speaker 1: working on my movie and I come home one night
Speaker 1: and sitting on the couch, it's a clear jar of
Speaker 1: the watermelon candies and I love those. Those are like
Speaker 1: my favorites. So you know, I'm I'm tired. I'm not
Speaker 1: looking where the pat came from. I just opened the jar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I start popping them in. I started chewing them. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, my man says, you know you're not
Speaker 1: eating those? Oh my god, they were edible, edible, And
Speaker 1: it wasn't incredible because I felt like a vegetable. Just
Speaker 1: a cloud of dread, a drape of dread came over me.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, he was tripping, I was
Speaker 1: tripping my goals off the entire night, shaking, teeth chattering.
Speaker 1: It was for I don't know about y'all out there,
Speaker 1: but I hate edibles. At your boyfriend trying to help you, girl.
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Speaker 1: You're bugging woke up in the morning read The first
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Speaker 1: He was, because it was like the anxiety on top
Speaker 1: of knowing what I ate. But I was definitely tripping.
Speaker 1: I got no sleep on a week where I already
Speaker 1: wasn't getting sleep, so I was not happy. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I went through oh yesterday on no sleep,
Speaker 1: but I got through it. And you know, here we
Speaker 1: are women a while and out podcast and that's what
Speaker 1: we do, like we're resilient women. We get through it,
Speaker 1: get do it, get up. And it's the movie. I've
Speaker 1: never done it, edible. I can't. I be gone regular weed.
Speaker 1: I would do it. It's terrible, you would hate it,
Speaker 1: like you just have no control over it. I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell you what saw my v a boo oh yes,
Speaker 1: what happened for me? So good? He came to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I stayed with him for two nights at his home
Speaker 1: house and Telly, we did not have sex, but did
Speaker 1: you You showed him but it wasn't from he was coughing,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't from COVID. I get it. Um is
Speaker 1: he a good kisser? He is like kisser. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just him so much. He's supposed to be coming
Speaker 1: back next weekend and he's just you don't probally value
Speaker 1: in men um something that I really value in him
Speaker 1: self control and discipline. A man to me a man
Speaker 1: without discipline, and so it's just lost. Like if you
Speaker 1: don't have any discipline in structure and like you know,
Speaker 1: self control. It's like you're just frivolous with every kids,
Speaker 1: to the job, to sex, to whatever mean money, you know.
Speaker 1: So I love that he is just so disciplined and
Speaker 1: self control because I wanted to do it and he
Speaker 1: was like, you said you were celibate, and you said
Speaker 1: we were taking Yep, he was like, you said you
Speaker 1: were celibate. We said we were taking this slow. So,
Speaker 1: you know, like anytime we you know, as adults, we
Speaker 1: both know as a girl and a guy, when you
Speaker 1: rushed into ships sometimes it can be bad. So wait
Speaker 1: to see. You know, we're still dating and seeing how
Speaker 1: we like each other. We obviously like each other a lot,
Speaker 1: but you know, just trying to get to know the
Speaker 1: heart before we get to know. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1: You're all smiley and excited. Well, it sounds like the
Speaker 1: vibes are good. And speaking of good vibe, Justina, are
Speaker 1: you excited about our guests today? You already know this
Speaker 1: is my favorite guest of the season, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I don't know if we have enough
Speaker 1: time to run down all the credits, but like executive
Speaker 1: producer Day one, Nick Cannon's right hand man, Mr. How
Speaker 1: you play we're making cuts. Mr. Who wants these episodes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what is it called? Navy seal? Whatever
Speaker 1: you go through when you're going through that training, That's
Speaker 1: how I feel. I was about to be in the military, right.
Speaker 1: The one, the only is my second dad. I literally
Speaker 1: call him dad. I'll be texting him my dad. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got scammed, Like help me, I need lawyer,
Speaker 1: help me. Somebody trying to sue me. I need I
Speaker 1: need help? Like what do you think about this? He's
Speaker 1: like any time I call this man Texas man, I
Speaker 1: get an instant response no matter what it is. And
Speaker 1: mind you, I do check on him, but nine of
Speaker 1: the time is because I'm in a fucking bond. Like
Speaker 1: I texted more than I text my real father about emergencies,
Speaker 1: you know. But this has turned into my you know,
Speaker 1: industry dad, and I just love him so much. Our
Speaker 1: producer for a while and out you guys, Nile Evans
Speaker 1: is him literally, So it's crazy. It's crazy now like
Speaker 1: to have you in the hot seat because it's like
Speaker 1: you executive produced, while now you executive produced the podcast,
Speaker 1: so you're always the one like giving us a rundown
Speaker 1: on what we should be doing. But now it's like
Speaker 1: today we get to pick your brain. So your brain
Speaker 1: it's a very cool thing. Yeah, I love it. I
Speaker 1: love I love having the opportunity to to be on
Speaker 1: the other side of it for for a change. So
Speaker 1: you know, this is how do you feel being interviewed
Speaker 1: your celebrity today? Being interviewed. I'm always the one writing
Speaker 1: interview questions or or you know, setting up the interviews,
Speaker 1: but never on the other side of it, you know.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's always a different feel when someone's
Speaker 1: asking you stuff, and then you're vulnerable, so you go, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna ask me, and I
Speaker 1: didn't prepare any prepare any questions for myself, so I
Speaker 1: don't know what you guys are gonna ask and I
Speaker 1: know what I put both of you through, right, So
Speaker 1: now we know who you are obviously, But how did
Speaker 1: you start your career in TV? Like tell us the beginning,
Speaker 1: how you met Nick? You know, well, the history, because
Speaker 1: I don't even think these new kids like obviously we
Speaker 1: we we it's a generation. I grew up watching Wild
Speaker 1: and Out. But these younger kids that are you know, preteens,
Speaker 1: are younger than us. They don't know the history. We
Speaker 1: want to hear, like when you were an intern ile,
Speaker 1: Like what's up? Bring us back? Tell us how you
Speaker 1: met Nick and how you started in TV in the
Speaker 1: beginning of Wild and Out. Don't know, that's kind of
Speaker 1: a three part question, but tell it's the beginning. So
Speaker 1: I started off underneath my uncle who was His name
Speaker 1: is Bentley Kyle Evans, and he created the Jamie Foxx Show.
Speaker 1: He was the executive producer at the end of Martin
Speaker 1: and so he was shown and he ran. He ran
Speaker 1: that show. He was the youngest black executive producer to
Speaker 1: run two shows at the same time at the age
Speaker 1: of seven. Yeah. Yeah, My aunt was She was a
Speaker 1: producer on The Parkers and a bunch of other shows.
Speaker 1: So it was in our family. And I grew up
Speaker 1: in l A, so you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: around and so when I was twelve, my uncle took
Speaker 1: me to see do the right thing and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. I want to
Speaker 1: be Spike Lead. And so later on when he started
Speaker 1: working in the industry, I wouldn't be like you can.
Speaker 1: I read the script for for the Martin Show and
Speaker 1: I would read it, and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: what I want to do. And so I was in
Speaker 1: college and he said, and I couldn't go back to school.
Speaker 1: I had a hardship. My dad didn't pay the tuition. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I was playing basketball. I wasn't playing basketball anymore,
Speaker 1: so he had to take care of the tuition. He
Speaker 1: didn't take care of the tuition. So my uncle said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a choice. I'm doing well, so
Speaker 1: I could either pay for school or you could come
Speaker 1: start working. He says, you gotta make a choice. Call
Speaker 1: me back. Called me back within twenty four hours. And uh,
Speaker 1: and I said, I need a tire from my car.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna come back down, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come down and start working. And he sent me a
Speaker 1: couple of dollars for the from my tire. And I
Speaker 1: was sleeping on this floor at at his house. And
Speaker 1: I became a production assistant on the Jamie Fox Show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so, um, you know I'm now I'm now
Speaker 1: I'm in the Hollywood shuffle. Um no degree um, and
Speaker 1: so uh, Will Smith comes to my uncle and says, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I got this kid man who's dope, and he reminds
Speaker 1: me of me, and I want to do a show
Speaker 1: for him. You want to collab on the show. And
Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, snap, Will Smith coming you about?
Speaker 1: You know, some some little kid. And so we went
Speaker 1: to go to the company. We we we went to the
Speaker 1: improv improv on on on in Melrow on Milorrows and
Speaker 1: he says, uh with Will Smith. No, Will wasn't there
Speaker 1: that day. That was so right, there wasn't. So uh.
Speaker 1: So we go to the improv and we see this
Speaker 1: young kid on stage killing and he's murdering. He's sixteen
Speaker 1: years old and we meet him and uh, and my
Speaker 1: uncle's like, yeah, let's do this project. And so, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we started the writing process and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a fly on the wall and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But Nick's wasn't Nick Cannon. It was Nick and so
Speaker 1: I forgot that part up. Yeah, so so it's a
Speaker 1: young Nick Cannon and and so, uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: started the writing problem, says and I'm kind of a
Speaker 1: fly on the wall, but Nick is Nick is young.
Speaker 1: I'm young. I'm twenty years old. Nick's six team about
Speaker 1: to be seventeen or something like that. And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: big brother to him because he's like, oh, a young
Speaker 1: voice who understands me, you know, and so we kind
Speaker 1: of vibed on that and Nick, you know, Nick was like, man,
Speaker 1: give me your number. And Nick was like a super
Speaker 1: persistent kid, right, and so he'd be like he'd called me,
Speaker 1: he be like, yeah, man, what are you doing. Let's
Speaker 1: go to lunch and did it. I'd be like Nick
Speaker 1: And then Nick, that's just who he was. And and
Speaker 1: he lived with Keenan at the time, Keenan Thompson, and
Speaker 1: they had crazy I mean, this kid had Remember I remember,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget my uncle had a range Rover and
Speaker 1: this was like when range rovers wearing like a new
Speaker 1: thing in LF and Nick was like, yeah, I'm getting
Speaker 1: a range Rover and I was like yeah, okay, And
Speaker 1: two days later he had a black range Rover and
Speaker 1: I was it was like that's right, fine, blow right
Speaker 1: and this you know, and so um, you know, he
Speaker 1: was really doing it. He started off doing warm up
Speaker 1: over at Nickelodeon, and he was he was a budding guy.
Speaker 1: And so my uncleland Will Smith ended up party ways
Speaker 1: over there about the show. Um, they just had differences
Speaker 1: of opinion and but Nick and I stayed uh in contact,
Speaker 1: so you know, I was I was working on other
Speaker 1: pilots and stuff. And then there was a writers strike
Speaker 1: and the industry kind of shut down, and so I
Speaker 1: was working at an insurance company and I was working
Speaker 1: there for about a year and one day Nick calls
Speaker 1: me and says, Yo, man, I got to stand called
Speaker 1: drumline's about to drop and I just got a record deal.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, what are you doing. Like, I'm working
Speaker 1: at this insurance company. I'm doing little pilots here and
Speaker 1: they're still working in the industry. He says, Yo, man,
Speaker 1: why don't you come on the road with me? And
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like you could be my assistant
Speaker 1: slash security. Slash road managers say, you're a big, scary
Speaker 1: looking dude. Yeah. He was like. He was like, I
Speaker 1: just need somebody to come over something and just look
Speaker 1: after me while I'm out. And he's like, I trust you.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, man, I want to be
Speaker 1: a writer, bro, I just I don't. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that. Ain't security. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. And so he was like he's like, look, man,
Speaker 1: we'll write stuff together while we're on the road. He says,
Speaker 1: I promise you will end up doing something big. I
Speaker 1: promise you that. So the next day, the job calls
Speaker 1: me in and they're like, we're laying people off. And
Speaker 1: so Nick calls me the next day and he's like, yo, Di,
Speaker 1: did my manager call you. I was like, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: nobody called me. You know. Sometimes it's just Hollywood stuff. Oh, man,
Speaker 1: don't want to do this thing, and then it never
Speaker 1: really happened, and it never happens. So it's literally the
Speaker 1: day I get laid off the next day and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: manager didn't call you. I'm gonna put him on three way.
Speaker 1: I can't get ahold of the manager. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I'm packing up my stuff leaving that night. Literally
Speaker 1: that night the manager calls. He's like, yo, man, you
Speaker 1: gotta flight to Denver tomorrow to meet Nick. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be on the road, so pack a bag. And I
Speaker 1: was gone for a month. Wow, I've never made like
Speaker 1: I probably made twenty six thousand dollars that year, And
Speaker 1: in that first month I ended up making forty grand
Speaker 1: And I became a stylist. I did all these different
Speaker 1: things for him everything. Yeah, and and then um. And
Speaker 1: then I was on the road for a couple of
Speaker 1: years and uh, and then you know, we ended up
Speaker 1: writing a couple of movies together. We sold to Overbrook
Speaker 1: to Wills Company, and then you know, Nick was doing
Speaker 1: a lot of TRL stuff and MTV was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: we gotta do something with you and Nick and Nick.
Speaker 1: The next day we went back to l A and
Speaker 1: Nick said, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do an improv comedy game show. We're gonna do Whose Life?
Speaker 1: Whose line is it? Anyway? But black our version of it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, I thought we was
Speaker 1: gonna do a sitcom. He was like, no, Like, this
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do with trust. And that was
Speaker 1: when I learned you gotta trust Nick at all times.
Speaker 1: What year did our drop? Two thousand? We did the
Speaker 1: original pilot in two thousand and four. Wow. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I came off the road. Yeah. Yeah. My son the
Speaker 1: first season we did the show, my son was born,
Speaker 1: so I always know how old the show was. Son
Speaker 1: of the same year, like my son at sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know what that that story reminded me of
Speaker 1: the Kanye West documentary. That's one. Yeah, I envisioned like
Speaker 1: that ship is just crazy. Like y'all had a vision,
Speaker 1: y'all had a plan, y'all were literally manifesting thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Is the biggest manifesto in the world, Nick is, I mean,
Speaker 1: in the world. Nick told me he was gonna before
Speaker 1: he had ever met Mariah Carey. He says, if I
Speaker 1: he told me this verbatim, if I ever get in
Speaker 1: a room with Mariah Carey, I'm going to marry her.
Speaker 1: And I laughed, insane, You're like left. And then two
Speaker 1: years later, I'm the best man watching this man Mary
Speaker 1: Mariah Carey. We used to exchange books on the road
Speaker 1: all the time. We just do a lot of reading.
Speaker 1: And so he gave me this book called Name It,
Speaker 1: Claim It, and it's now right now, and it's all
Speaker 1: about manifesting. It's all about if you name it, you
Speaker 1: can claim it. And Nick believes in this and every
Speaker 1: time he says, when you say it, you will bring
Speaker 1: it to fruition. Everything that man has said he wanted
Speaker 1: to do, he did. I believe it. I believe everything
Speaker 1: it happens. Everything, I'm manifested, my wife, I'm manifested all
Speaker 1: kinds of things in my life. I'm manifested my house.
Speaker 1: Yeah literally, Yeah, that's just it. It's crazy, like twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, you guys started this idea and it's still
Speaker 1: going strong and honestly arguably bigger than it's ever been,
Speaker 1: Bigger than it's it's ever been left came back. It's
Speaker 1: like what insane? Insane? You know, my first time going
Speaker 1: to the Wild and outour, I didn't understand the capacity
Speaker 1: of I don't think I understood the impact it has
Speaker 1: on culture until I went to the tour. I didn't
Speaker 1: understand it until I'm sitting in the Staples Center where
Speaker 1: Kobe the house that Kobe made, and I see all
Speaker 1: the way up to the top sold the Staples Center,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in the audience like a fan, like
Speaker 1: I don't believe that I sing, I helped be a
Speaker 1: part of this thing, and it was. It was from
Speaker 1: the ground up, from from the ground up. And what's
Speaker 1: crazy is like with Wilding Out, what's so different I
Speaker 1: feel than like most other shows are just brands. It's
Speaker 1: like our age range of fans is really from like
Speaker 1: four years old to like a hundred and four you're
Speaker 1: great granny and like the kids, like the young young kids.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you create a show that
Speaker 1: goes through like so many generations generation? How do you
Speaker 1: do that? Like, I can't even name another show that
Speaker 1: has that impact on all the generations. Yeah, it's nuts
Speaker 1: that it it's you know, it's one of those shows
Speaker 1: that is like, you know, to me, it's a it's
Speaker 1: an urban version of SNL. You know, it's like our
Speaker 1: hour Saturday Night Live. It's approving ground for people to
Speaker 1: come on and be stars and showcase their talent and
Speaker 1: you know, you know SNL they what they were there
Speaker 1: thirty some years or something like that. Like, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is the same type of show that's a
Speaker 1: legacy show that could keep going on and on and
Speaker 1: on and on. Yeah. So since you've known Nick for
Speaker 1: so long, what do you think it's the biggest lesson
Speaker 1: you've not learned from Nick? Trust him? Trust him, even
Speaker 1: if you don't believe it. You just gotta go. Like
Speaker 1: I've learned, I go, all right, man, if that's what
Speaker 1: you want to do now, I will tell him. I'm
Speaker 1: one of the only people that will tell him a
Speaker 1: real opinion. I'll be like, no, you shouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: but but I will really trust him. I will all
Speaker 1: the time. I'll be like, Na, this is not what
Speaker 1: we're doing. But if I if he believes in it,
Speaker 1: I go, all right, I'll take the ride with you.
Speaker 1: I will take thee There's always something there because because
Speaker 1: it's not about the money, it's because I know he
Speaker 1: has a great vision and he's a visionary. That dude.
Speaker 1: It's gonna he's gonna go out there and get it,
Speaker 1: and he can see something and when he sees it, Alright, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's getting good. We gotta take a break. We'll be
Speaker 1: back with the women while now podcast with our producer
Speaker 1: now Evans. All right, we're back from our break and
Speaker 1: it's your Girl j V with my baby be Simone
Speaker 1: and we got now Evans in the building. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just say right now, this is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: episodes because we get to hear from the Boss, a
Speaker 1: man himself who started the show with Nick Cannon like
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. And it's been so cool rocking out
Speaker 1: and hearing all the details of your life. Now you
Speaker 1: raised us, and it's cool now we get to hear
Speaker 1: about you. So before we get into the Juicy staff, I,
Speaker 1: me and Justina are gonna share our first memories of you,
Speaker 1: and then I would love for you to share your
Speaker 1: first memories of us. So my first memory, my first
Speaker 1: memory of Nile was auditioning for a while and out,
Speaker 1: um well, after the audition, my first memory was the workshops.
Speaker 1: So my first year workshops, y'all, let me tell y'all something.
Speaker 1: Workshops were not um easy. It was like a boot camp.
Speaker 1: It was very serious. It was very militant, and I
Speaker 1: respect that to this day. But when you're in that moment,
Speaker 1: your first season, it wasn't like it was my THURSD season,
Speaker 1: my second season, my first chance at this ship. That
Speaker 1: first season of workshops was very stressful for me. I cried,
Speaker 1: I laughed, but Nile pushed me to my limit. And now,
Speaker 1: looking back in hindsight, of course I respected. I value it.
Speaker 1: It really made me, you know, the comedian I am today.
Speaker 1: I think that workshop prepared me for stand up. But y'all,
Speaker 1: I was scared of this dying gonna line like yo,
Speaker 1: like when I say sweating walking in there, like, don't
Speaker 1: talk to me. I'm focused, I'm practicing. Nile was not, y'all. Now,
Speaker 1: he's like a little you know, a little Teddy Bear
Speaker 1: before he was like a greatly be right that first
Speaker 1: My first memory of Nile is him being like very militant,
Speaker 1: didn't take any bullshit, but it was because he was
Speaker 1: pulling the best out of you. And I truly believe
Speaker 1: that is why that workshop that year, and wild and
Speaker 1: Out in general helped me become the comedian I am today.
Speaker 1: That workshop was very intimidating. I'm not going to you know,
Speaker 1: the workshops are tough. It's it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's approving around. It's it's we're trying to see
Speaker 1: you're going to be able to stand up to the
Speaker 1: rigors of this show, and you know, and a couple
Speaker 1: of you know, I think you had a couple of
Speaker 1: goals at it, and it was yeah, yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: really um. You know, I love comedy, but I want
Speaker 1: people to get it right. And most people don't or
Speaker 1: have to, you know, they just they work on their
Speaker 1: stand up set and they're just naturally funny. But when
Speaker 1: you have to be funny on a team, it's a
Speaker 1: little different. And so I have to kind of coach
Speaker 1: and kind of help you out and help you understand
Speaker 1: the games and how the show works. And so, and
Speaker 1: then you're dealing with a bunch of comedians and rappers
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to be funny and you gotta be like,
Speaker 1: let's listen, let me explain this game to you so
Speaker 1: that you could play it the right way. So you
Speaker 1: know it's it's tough, but you know you made it
Speaker 1: through and you you are. It really is like the
Speaker 1: workshops really are a war zone. And like even to
Speaker 1: this day, there are certain vets conceded who like literally
Speaker 1: will do anything, um and everything to avoid a workshop
Speaker 1: because yeah, that really is a place where Now I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't care how many seasons you've been on.
Speaker 1: I don't care. How do you care, I don't care
Speaker 1: how good you are, Like you know, this workshop is
Speaker 1: determining your episode. Um you know how many you get.
Speaker 1: But for me, when I first met now, I'll never
Speaker 1: forget it was when I auditioned. It was Nile and
Speaker 1: Shelby and it was just me and them in the room,
Speaker 1: and yeah, they had me do like a certain number
Speaker 1: of games, like they had me do like um, let
Speaker 1: me holla um. And then now I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well I know you could you know freestyle. We saw
Speaker 1: the video so I want you to freestyle right now
Speaker 1: about so he was not, yeah, something weird something, So
Speaker 1: he said that. I was like, okay, So I came,
Speaker 1: I sang a hook, made a hook, and then I
Speaker 1: made a whole song with a whole story, like whole storytelling.
Speaker 1: I was on my nas ish and I just knew
Speaker 1: you could from the second I met Now, Like I
Speaker 1: knew he was like the guy in charge, like he
Speaker 1: just has like he's just a big dude with a
Speaker 1: powerful voice. I'm like, okay, he's the one who's about
Speaker 1: to make the decision if I'm gonna be on the show.
Speaker 1: But I knew at my UM audition, I just knew
Speaker 1: I smashed it. And then he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this. Now you were like, okay, now,
Speaker 1: I want you to do a wild style go against
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon. I was like, and I asked you, I said,
Speaker 1: Nick's gonna see this, right He said yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: give me someone else, So he gave me Um. He
Speaker 1: gave me Meek Mill. So I did a wild style
Speaker 1: against Meek Mill. And you know, that was the very
Speaker 1: first time I met now, and he definitely, like you said,
Speaker 1: but he definitely has that that coach vibe. He's running
Speaker 1: the place. He's very authority, authoritative and or have you
Speaker 1: said the word authority out of love? It's out of love.
Speaker 1: It's out of love because he truly, truly believes in you.
Speaker 1: Yes he does. And I've always been on teams, so
Speaker 1: I I love having a culture. I worked well having
Speaker 1: a coach and someone given directions. So I've always loved
Speaker 1: that about Nile. Don't get me wrong, he is scary
Speaker 1: at times, but I love how he's that very strict,
Speaker 1: stern like bring you in, gonna give you the tough love,
Speaker 1: but but get you right. Tough love is the way
Speaker 1: I kind of give everything, and it's all out of love.
Speaker 1: It's the first it should be love tough because it's
Speaker 1: always starting with love. But you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: times in the industry, people will tell you, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're doing fine. Oh yeah, okay, no, that was great,
Speaker 1: that was great, and they'll tell you that was great,
Speaker 1: and then you go out on stage and then you
Speaker 1: realize it wasn't great. And so anybody to go out
Speaker 1: there and me not be honest with them and me
Speaker 1: say that didn't make me laugh. You know, you'll hear
Speaker 1: in the room. If it makes people laugh, and it does,
Speaker 1: let's try it again. And what you know a lot
Speaker 1: of comedians never really have is a coach or anybody
Speaker 1: to say that didn't work. They go on stage and
Speaker 1: they find out if it worked or not, and hopefully
Speaker 1: they figure it out and go let me retool, rewrite
Speaker 1: that joke it up. But you realize that a lot
Speaker 1: of people stay in the same place because there's nobody
Speaker 1: pushing them. And so I just always want to push you, guys,
Speaker 1: to the fullest of your potential, because I know what
Speaker 1: it is. If I'm on you, that means that I
Speaker 1: see something inside of you that I know it's great,
Speaker 1: and I just have to I just got to help
Speaker 1: pull it out of you. And I'm gonna tell it down.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna challenge you at every level. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be like, just oh, if you don't want to get money,
Speaker 1: that's fine. You know I don't want to If you
Speaker 1: don't want to be great, If you don't want to
Speaker 1: get money, that's fine, you can have a seat. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I have you know what it is people
Speaker 1: are used to yes men, and you're like the furthest
Speaker 1: thing from that so people are not always used to that.
Speaker 1: It could be a bit abrasive. When you're used to
Speaker 1: people just telling you you're great, then you get an
Speaker 1: Evans telling you you're good, but you could be better.
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, if you're in
Speaker 1: front of Nile, you have something, you get some saying.
Speaker 1: So if you're there, you have something. If you're there,
Speaker 1: you are great, you have talent, you have something. But
Speaker 1: now it's like this ain't enough. It's twenty of y'all here,
Speaker 1: we only need eight. But who want to say? And
Speaker 1: if you don't create a competitive environment, then people just
Speaker 1: think that I could just walk into comfortable, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And I go, when you're a starter,
Speaker 1: when you come in every time and we know you're
Speaker 1: gonna play all the time, then you can kind of
Speaker 1: rest a little bit. But until then, yeah, you're fighting
Speaker 1: for the spot. And so it just makes people step up.
Speaker 1: And when I see people step up, and I've seen
Speaker 1: both of you step up to the fullest of the capacities,
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, look at that look with that
Speaker 1: little bit of okay, yeah you had to cry a
Speaker 1: little bit, Yeah you had to be talked to in
Speaker 1: a way that you didn't. You're not used to because
Speaker 1: see you shot up here, you're a star. But in
Speaker 1: that workshop, I go, I don't care about any of that,
Speaker 1: all of what you're doing now, be like I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about your YouTube view. You're not baby.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh my goodness, audition process for for
Speaker 1: for for the phone, everybody on the phone and and
Speaker 1: do something. But TV is a different thing. It's a
Speaker 1: different beast. And even like the season now where like
Speaker 1: you guys brought in like a lot of influencers. You know,
Speaker 1: basically what you said was proven, like you can be
Speaker 1: great when you have your phone and you could do
Speaker 1: fifty takes, but you were like, can you be great
Speaker 1: once in front of an audience not being able to
Speaker 1: chop it up? How you like, can be great the
Speaker 1: first take? And that's real. You could, you could, you
Speaker 1: could shoot you know, you're when you're in the room
Speaker 1: by yourself or with one of your friends and you
Speaker 1: can do it over and over again. Yeah, it should
Speaker 1: be great. It should be the funniest ever should be
Speaker 1: you know, if you're putting it out, but if you are,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're in a room with ten other
Speaker 1: people who are just as talented as you, and you know,
Speaker 1: you have to show that you're a cut above. You know,
Speaker 1: you have something different. You are not running the mill.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where people get caught up as
Speaker 1: they go. I could just be average, and I go, well,
Speaker 1: the stars usually stand out, you know, some people were
Speaker 1: being average, you know, like you know when you see
Speaker 1: a d C on the fly, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's Lebron James coming into the league. For I
Speaker 1: saw Justina, I was like, oh man, what's some coaching.
Speaker 1: I was like, because she's a rapper. It was she's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And you know, Justina, Justina went through
Speaker 1: it a few times and we used to what we
Speaker 1: used to talk to you about all the time. Oh,
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't shut the funk up. You just keep wrapping,
Speaker 1: keep wrapping. Remember that one workshop where they twisted my
Speaker 1: head to kill me and I was dead on the floor,
Speaker 1: and that I just keep wrapping. They're like, may not.
Speaker 1: That moment was when I knew you got I understand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understood because I was like, you're wrapped because you
Speaker 1: know how but I know, and I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what you do now, Like with all of us, like
Speaker 1: you're kind of your hone, our craft and what we're
Speaker 1: good at and just show us like can you have it?
Speaker 1: But you need to be polished, like you find us
Speaker 1: a little like you know what I mean, a little
Speaker 1: diamond and the rough and then you clean us up
Speaker 1: and then you know, we just people that get it.
Speaker 1: Take the ball. Yeah, we take the ball on with
Speaker 1: it after you give us the playsure some people. Some
Speaker 1: people need more. Yeah, we gotta take a break. Stay
Speaker 1: tuned for more of the women. While our podcasts don't
Speaker 1: go nowhere. We got more questions for now. We're back
Speaker 1: about it. It's your girl. Just seen a balance on
Speaker 1: here with my sister be Smelling And we have a
Speaker 1: very special guest with us this week, the executive producer
Speaker 1: boss Man The Wilding Out Dad not Levins. Okay, so
Speaker 1: wa'ts your first memory my first memory of O I'll
Speaker 1: go he wants to be first, be nice. So I
Speaker 1: remember seeing b Simone and I remember I remember I
Speaker 1: can't see how your hair was. Your hair was actually
Speaker 1: down the first time I saw it, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's she's cute. Um, she's kind of funny. Was this
Speaker 1: in New York? Now? I think this was in New York,
Speaker 1: and I was like, there's something there, and Nick was like,
Speaker 1: there's really no you know what. Nick at first was
Speaker 1: like I don't see it. He didn't believe. And you know,
Speaker 1: Dolly was the one that was like, nah, there's really
Speaker 1: something there. And I was like, all right, Polo. You know,
Speaker 1: we didn't have a we didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, it was hard to find a really funny
Speaker 1: female at the time, and not that there aren't funny females,
Speaker 1: but we weren't getting them, and so that that fit,
Speaker 1: you know, and so it was like, you know, you
Speaker 1: were buzzing a little bit online and it wasn't I remember,
Speaker 1: because I remember you were. You were buzzing a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you when you came back another season, we were
Speaker 1: like when the be Simone tone came, it was that
Speaker 1: was it. That was why, that was it? And so
Speaker 1: I remember you had you. I think we we we
Speaker 1: we gave you a few episodes and then I don't
Speaker 1: know if we let did we let you go? And
Speaker 1: then you came back and let me go? And then
Speaker 1: you came back, and then when you came back, it
Speaker 1: was you were different. You came back with and then
Speaker 1: when I saw the stuff online, I said, because I
Speaker 1: was like getting cut again, Like y'all got me said,
Speaker 1: you said, you were like, I've done this too many times.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting cut again. And I was like that
Speaker 1: that was the energy that I wanted. That's the point.
Speaker 1: That was at the point. That's the energy that I want.
Speaker 1: And you were like, I've been here too many times.
Speaker 1: I'm coming in and you smashed the workshop. You smashed
Speaker 1: Who was that in Brooklyn? I was scared. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: came in and you smashed the workshop, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, next level that Still Nick was still
Speaker 1: like Nick was like Nick was like for a while,
Speaker 1: he was he was he was on the fence for
Speaker 1: a while. He was like, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: see it. I like her. I don't see it though,
Speaker 1: And then and then you just had that breakout season
Speaker 1: and it was just like okay. And then sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes a while, because you know, I'm the same way
Speaker 1: with some of Nick's picks. I'll be like, oh, then't cool,
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, what you're saying. Once they get
Speaker 1: on stage and deliver and have fun and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: and once you got it was just it was. It
Speaker 1: was out of here. It was like oh and then
Speaker 1: almost by that time, you were like I'm ready to leave.
Speaker 1: She was like, she was like, she was like might
Speaker 1: his worldwide? She's like, baby girl, use me or down,
Speaker 1: I don't care. You know what it is, No, wilding
Speaker 1: out is always family, Like you never get enough scenes
Speaker 1: now you always want to come back always. But what
Speaker 1: it is is I think, um, when I started doing
Speaker 1: stand up, I fell in love with that ship. But
Speaker 1: while didn't not prepared me for that, Yeah, it really did.
Speaker 1: It prepared me for stand up comedy that is a
Speaker 1: different fucking world. Like getting in front of thirty thou
Speaker 1: people like, you're either going to hear a roaring wave
Speaker 1: of laughs in an arena or you're gonna hear that
Speaker 1: fucking cricket and be like what the fuck you know that?
Speaker 1: And you get to prove yourself on stage and know
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of comedians are like, oh, these influences, influencers come
Speaker 1: in and then and then they start doing stand up
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, if you've been on the wound
Speaker 1: out stage and dealt with the either the booze or
Speaker 1: the you ain't mother the buzz the mother, you know,
Speaker 1: dealing with laughing at you because you had a bad joke.
Speaker 1: Trust me, going on stage, It's gonna be easy after that, right,
Speaker 1: You're fine? Fine, It just like sharpens your swords. Like
Speaker 1: even like you know when I did the Five Things
Speaker 1: of Death on Sway and I was the first check
Speaker 1: to really spit of real freestyle. I just came off
Speaker 1: a season a while now. I was like, you were
Speaker 1: doing this two weeks straight. What you want to talk about?
Speaker 1: I don't need nothing rain, Come on, give me. You're
Speaker 1: just gonna free style. This is what I do. Like,
Speaker 1: I just came off a season one, like I just
Speaker 1: can't from like what you want to hear about. Remember
Speaker 1: that first the first season that that we had. You
Speaker 1: just see and I was just like and and that
Speaker 1: first audition I can almost remember exactly what you had
Speaker 1: on because you had your hair was back. Bun always
Speaker 1: tells me to wear it. I love it, And I
Speaker 1: remember I remember you came in and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's got it. We're fine, We're fine. I remember being like, no,
Speaker 1: you're good. She she wrapped because I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: a toast strewd election and then you killed it coast
Speaker 1: shrewd and then you killed and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're good. And then we got to the workshop. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you can wrap, I get it. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, all you could wrapt, I get it.
Speaker 1: You gotta get to a joke. And that was the
Speaker 1: thing that I knew. I was like, you have this
Speaker 1: amazing skill. If we just work on this getting to
Speaker 1: a joke part, we're gonna be fine. And you know
Speaker 1: something you did. I don't know if you remember of this,
Speaker 1: So you gave me the toaster shoal right when it
Speaker 1: was the audition, just you, me and Shelby. So then
Speaker 1: the next audition we did was because my first audition
Speaker 1: was single, I don't know how years was be but
Speaker 1: the second audition was a group of us, like thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Nick was at that one. So we did a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and then you gave us a topic
Speaker 1: and then you gave everyone like a minute to make
Speaker 1: something up. So everyone's in their phones. So you went
Speaker 1: around the room and when you came to me, you
Speaker 1: gave me toaster shrewdle again. And I didn't want it
Speaker 1: because I wanted some new and I didn't even remember
Speaker 1: I said. I was like, oh, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think you might have gave you that my first one.
Speaker 1: So you looked at me, You're like, oh, this bitch
Speaker 1: is really about this action. So then you gave me
Speaker 1: like a whole new topic. And then you know, that's
Speaker 1: what I did was I was like, I saw what
Speaker 1: you did with toaster shrewd and yeah, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, in my mind, I was like, you got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's just it's here for you to lose, and I
Speaker 1: don't want you to lose this so again, and then
Speaker 1: I think she was like him, yeah, and then I
Speaker 1: think you had did I give you something else? Who
Speaker 1: gave me? You gave me a name brand. I think
Speaker 1: it was like Gucci or Fendi or something and I
Speaker 1: and of course I did a long free style about
Speaker 1: and the rest of the room was like when I
Speaker 1: was done, they started clapping like is it on iTunes?
Speaker 1: Because you know, I went crazy and then us and
Speaker 1: it was just like, oh just sold. Me and Nick
Speaker 1: were already sold, and it was just like okay, well
Speaker 1: there it is like. But then it came to wild
Speaker 1: style and everyone was scared, so I let a few
Speaker 1: people go then I went be someone. I did the
Speaker 1: machine gun just across the whole line. On the other team,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted that smoke. I was like, let me go,
Speaker 1: and I remember Nick went down the line gave everyone dash,
Speaker 1: but I was the only one. He sits unto. He's like,
Speaker 1: where are you from? I was like Jersey. He was like, wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a done deal. It's been so
Speaker 1: dope getting to know the boy man now Evans even more.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's a lot more things that
Speaker 1: we gotta get into. So we're gonna be back next
Speaker 1: week with a part two. Make sure y'all tune in
Speaker 1: to hear more about the executive producer of Wilding Out
Speaker 1: and the women of Wilding Now podcast now Levins. We'll
Speaker 1: see'll next week