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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory

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Speaker 1: with you, Vernon muhubble back with us, Founder and director

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Speaker 1: of the Palmistry Institute out there in Los Angeles. In

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, he began formal training of the Vedic

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Speaker 1: Eastern cosmology, which took him to India many times. He

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Speaker 1: combines both Eastern and Western astrological disciplines into his practice.

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Speaker 1: He continues new research, particularly within the field of dermoglyphics

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Speaker 1: fingerprint biometrics, which is amazing And Vernon, welcome back, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you George, thanks for having me on again. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's seven to eight billion people on this planet. It

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Speaker 1: boggles my mind that everybody has a distinct fingerprint. You mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no duplication out there at all, not at all,

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Speaker 1: Just like a snowflake, there's no two snowflakes alike. So

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Speaker 1: everyone of our fingerprints is completely different from the other

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Speaker 1: nine fingerprints. So as as we are individuals, God made

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Speaker 1: us individuals, our fingerprints represent our individuality. So there are

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Speaker 1: six major classifications of fingerprints, but they're all different. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to be a Hollywood movie. Some serial killer

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Speaker 1: has the same fingerprint as somebody and it's just by

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Speaker 1: a fluke of nature. That would be an interesting little movie,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't it. Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, And identical twins they don't

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Speaker 1: have the same fingerprints. Identical twins have charts and planets

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Speaker 1: and signs and houses that are completely different from each other,

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Speaker 1: even born two minutes apart. They there are completely different

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Speaker 1: individual soul, so they have different karma and different planet

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Speaker 1: monetary aspects. So they're is different from each other as

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Speaker 1: as their fingerprints. That I wonder though, why the fingerprints

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Speaker 1: would be different on identical twins when structurally they're the same. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the interesting thing is that the Navajo Indians

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Speaker 1: have a legend, and the legend is that at seven

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Speaker 1: months in the womb, while the child is uh in

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Speaker 1: embryo form, they say that God Um blesses the child

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Speaker 1: and blows his breath upon the child's fingerprints, and UH

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Speaker 1: that breath becomes his individual mark. He makes that that

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Speaker 1: boy or that girl uh an individual with their own

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Speaker 1: personal identity and wants and needs. So the thing fingerprints.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and science has proved this u at seven months,

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Speaker 1: they're formed within the womb. They can tell, they've been

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Speaker 1: able to tell by different types of sound and heat,

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Speaker 1: and they've confirmed, if you will, what the Navajos have

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Speaker 1: been saying for thousands of years that these fingerprints are

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Speaker 1: are are are formed at seven months in the womb.

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Speaker 1: And uh they are a record of our individuality. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And there they are a record of where we've been,

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Speaker 1: the lifetimes we've lived, and the things that we've done.

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Speaker 1: In fact, our fingerprints are actually the the record of

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Speaker 1: the soul's life purpose. How did you get involved in palmistry? Well, George,

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Speaker 1: when I was in high school. I actually found a

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Speaker 1: book when I was at the school library when I

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Speaker 1: was seventeen on palmistry, and I became hooked after that. UM,

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Speaker 1: I didn't immediately become a professional palmis but UM I

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Speaker 1: did a bunch of other things. But within all that

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Speaker 1: I was taking courses and classes and uh reading hands.

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Speaker 1: So I've been doing it since high school, I guess,

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Speaker 1: and um, and then it just kind of became my

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Speaker 1: career after a while. But what do the palms tell you, Brenon, Uh,

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Speaker 1: your hand is like you're exactly your astrological chart. When

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Speaker 1: when a palmis looks at a hand. Uh. He or

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Speaker 1: all the signs or the planets, um, all the asteroids,

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Speaker 1: and exactly what an astrologer can see, we can see

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Speaker 1: topographic form. And the the difference here is that instead

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Speaker 1: which is what astrologers look at with the signs and symbols,

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Speaker 1: the hand is like the sister of astrology. And it's

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Speaker 1: a sister because it's a little bit more feminine, because

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Speaker 1: there is intuition associated with the palm. So when an

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Speaker 1: might not necessarily just receive those intuitions, but the hand

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Speaker 1: radiates a tremendous amount of psychic force, if you will.

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Speaker 1: So a palmist is picking up on this at the

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Speaker 1: same time. So when you're looking at a palm, you're

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Speaker 1: looking at all the astrological aspects, but at the same

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Speaker 1: time you're getting intuitions from that and it deepens the reading. Also,

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Speaker 1: a palmis looks at the right hand George, to understand

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Speaker 1: a person's career and their life purpose and their their

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Speaker 1: were they formed? The lines are the chucker systems in

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Speaker 1: the hand, just like they say, the first chucker, second chucker,

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Speaker 1: They are important to a degree, but they don't actually

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Speaker 1: lines change. But the most important things on the hand

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Speaker 1: can definitely change throughout one's life. The lifeline, the lifeline

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Speaker 1: both hands. And the common uh, even palm is believe

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Speaker 1: length of life. It's a line that talks about our sexuality,

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Speaker 1: our pro creative aspects, and our marriage and even children

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Speaker 1: to do with health. And I can't tell you how

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Speaker 1: many times people have said, oh, my lifeline is broken,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna am I gonna die early. A broken lifeline

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Speaker 1: simply means that you're going to probably have a divorce

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Speaker 1: second chakra, and the second chakra has to do with sexuality.

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Speaker 1: And this line is it curves around the ball of

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Speaker 1: it is, the darker it is, the more sexual desire

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Speaker 1: their uh, sexual energy into their career. What if you

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Speaker 1: probably want to live in a cave and heard a monk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or numerologists. It's kind of irresponsible to tell people how

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Speaker 1: I do do that. That is important. That is a

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Speaker 1: remarkable how this happens now. Is the palmised a psychic?

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Speaker 1: I believe that psychic energy or intuition is a part

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Speaker 1: UH picking up these intuitive energies. UM can read around

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Speaker 1: It is a metaphysical science, George. It is definitely a science.

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Speaker 1: It's a hundred percent of science. Um. You can absolutely

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Speaker 1: You could, you could absolutely predict what type of how

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Speaker 1: they're radiating UM for lack of a better idea, UM

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Speaker 1: planets have influence over human nature and character and planet

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