1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of iHeart Radio. Hey brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum. Here in elementary school, we learn some indisputable 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: fundamental facts. Two plus two equals four. The world's round. 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: There are seven continents on Earth, but that last one 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: isn't quite so cut and dried. Here in the United States, 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: students learned that there are seven continents North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: and Antarctica. But that's hardly the last word on the matter. 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: And much of Europe students learned that there are six 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: continents Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia's slash Oceania, and Europe. 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: There's a five continent model which lists Africa, Europe, Asia, America, 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and Oceanica slash Australia. And that's, by the way, why 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 1: there are five rings on the Olympic flag. And some 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: experts think that four is the way to go, using 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: as their criteria land masses now truly separated by water 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: rather than man made canals, so Afro, Eurasia, America, Antarctica, 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: and Australia. As recently as the eighteen hundreds, some people 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: said that there were just two continents, the old including Europe, Africa, 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: and Asia, and the new encompassing North and South America. 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: So what really makes a continent a continent? We spoke 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: via email with Dan Montello, a geography professor at the 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: University of California, Santa Barbara. He said, nothing really determines 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: a continent except historical convention, a bit of an overstatement 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: but mostly valid. Certain factors make a landmass more or 24 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: less likely to be called a continent at various times 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: in history by various people, but nothing can be said 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: to determine continentality in a completely principled, non arbitrary way. Take, 27 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: for example, the vast country of Russia six point six 28 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: million square miles or seventeen million square kilometers. Why has 29 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it often been counted as part of you up rather 30 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: than Asia? Montello explained. The Ural Mountains are taken to 31 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: separate Asia and Europe, but only because Russians wanted their 32 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: great city of Moscow to be European, so the Urals 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: were a convenient marker for that arbitrary decision. Continents are 34 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: mostly spatially contiguous collections of land masses larger than countries 35 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: but smaller than hemispheres. Of course, continents do not necessarily 36 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: fit entirely within single Earth hemispheres and thus cannot be 37 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: defined by ranges of latitude or longitude. Okay, so how 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: about plate tectonics. If certain land masses are constrained to 39 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: one of those massive shifting hulks, can we safely call 40 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: it a continent? Montello says, no quote. Plate tectonics has 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it historically, and it certainly could 42 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: not provide a principal basis for continents. Now, nearly every 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: continent includes parts of multiple plates, the same those for climate. 44 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: After all, continents contain multiple climates, as evidenced by Alaska's 45 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: arctic chill compared with Florida's humid heat. They're both part 46 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: of North America. Mountain ranges and coastlines are useless too, 47 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: as our culture and politics, Montella said. Neither ethnicity, race, culture, 48 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: nor politics has ever defined continents, except by conventional theories 49 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: that were largely mythical, such as old and fallacious ideas 50 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: about correspondences between races and continents. Politically, Hawaii is part 51 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: of the US, but is in Oceania rather than North America. 52 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Greenland is controlled by Denmark for now, but is considered 53 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: part of the North American continent. So really it boils 54 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: down to whom and when you ask, Montello said, no 55 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: one can say, as a matter of principled fact, how 56 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: many continents there are, because the decisions are largely based 57 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: on convention, and convention that goes in and out of 58 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: fashion over time and is still debated today. He concedes 59 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: that these days many geographers would opt for a list 60 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: of seven continents Africa, Antarctica, Asia, You're up, North America, Oceania, 61 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: and South America, but he added that some of them 62 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: would combine Asia and Europe into Eurasia, identify Oceania in 63 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: other ways, or combine North and South America into the America's. 64 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: He said, there is simply no BZAR or CEO of 65 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: continents or any other ultimate authority, so it's pretentious for 66 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: anyone to claim that they have the authoritative answer. But 67 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: don't worry if you can't handle that kind of definition. 68 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: It's all changing. The continents are drifting at a rate 69 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: of about an inch or two point five centimeters per year. 70 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: Today's episode was written by Nathan Chandler and produced by 71 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Clang. For more in this lots of other topics. 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: Visit how stuff works dot com. Brain Stuff is production 73 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: of I heart Radio. For more podcasts my heart Radio, 74 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 75 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.