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Speaker 1: going to continue today honoring I mean, the men who

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Speaker 1: built this country. It's it's easy to point to politicians

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Speaker 1: and presidents and this business guy, but none of that

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Speaker 1: matters at all, at all without young men willing to

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Speaker 1: pick up a weapon and throw themselves in harm's way.

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Speaker 1: So joining us now one of my favorite people in

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Speaker 1: the world, President of the Security Studies Group and former

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Speaker 1: Green Beret, Jim Hanson. Jim, it's the data, honor the fallen.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you, brother, Let's do it. You

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Speaker 1: have somebody you want to talk about today, Please take

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Speaker 1: it away, you know, Jesse. It's it's obviously a day

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Speaker 1: to make sure that anybody who marches to the sound

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Speaker 1: of gunfire knows that their name will never be forgotten.

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Speaker 1: We had a long dry spell between Vietnam and twenty

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Speaker 1: ten where no one was awarded the Medal of Honor

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Speaker 1: as a living recipient. We had a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: who were brave, who died in the cause and got

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Speaker 1: the Medal of Honor. The first person to get it

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Speaker 1: and live was a guy named sal Junta. But he's

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Speaker 1: been well talked about. What we don't talk about as

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Speaker 1: much is the guy he was trying to save that

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Speaker 1: was the reason he was awarded the Medal of Honor.

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Speaker 1: And that kid's name is Josh Brennan. Now, these guys

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Speaker 1: were paratroopers, one seventy third airborn. They were in the

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Speaker 1: corn Gall Valley in Afghanistan, and anybody who knows Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: just cringed because that is hell on earth. That is

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Speaker 1: the worst place in the world. Why they had they

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Speaker 1: had a fifteen month tour tap Band's home turf. They

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Speaker 1: went in and these guys went in for fifteen months

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Speaker 1: paratroopers and they over fifteen months average more than two

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Speaker 1: troop in contact incidents per day. That's that's World War

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Speaker 1: two island hopping level. Let's contact. I just want to

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Speaker 1: tell everybody, by the way, Quickside note, I did a

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Speaker 1: six month stretch in Okinawa. This is pre Iraq at all.

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Speaker 1: That one time is six month stretched during peacetime in Okinawa.

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Speaker 1: That involved as much beer as it did actual training.

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Speaker 1: And by the end of that six months I missed home.

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Speaker 1: I was ready to go home. These guys were in

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Speaker 1: heavy combat for fifteen months. My gosh, anyway, go ahead, Jim.

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Speaker 1: And so one night they're on a patrol coming home.

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Speaker 1: Josh is walking point and the Taliban lit him up

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Speaker 1: L shaped ambush heavy weapons. They were tearing these guys up.

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Speaker 1: Josh got hit bad or Jim, what's point? Explain that

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Speaker 1: for people and explain L shaped ambush. I know what

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Speaker 1: that means, but explain it. The guy point man is

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Speaker 1: the one walking in front, and it's the most dangerous

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Speaker 1: position to be Obviously, you're the first one who's gonna

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Speaker 1: see whatever bad could be out there. So the L

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Speaker 1: shaped ambush means they had guys on the side of them.

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Speaker 1: The Taliban did, and guys in front of them so

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Speaker 1: there's no place to go. It was well executed and

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Speaker 1: they were hurting these guys bad. Now, in the course

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Speaker 1: of that, all this fire going on, a couple of

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Speaker 1: the Taliban grabbed Josh's wounded body and started dragging him off,

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Speaker 1: and Sa said no, He said that is not going

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Speaker 1: to happen, and he jumped up, running and gunning, ended

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Speaker 1: up running through a hail of gunfire, took some shots

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Speaker 1: shot up too bad. He took seven or eight rounds,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't make it okay. But in the course

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Speaker 1: of remembering guys like Josh Brennan, we decided to throw

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Speaker 1: us in the rear with the gear. Civilians now decided

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Speaker 1: to throw a party for these paratroopers when they were

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Speaker 1: coming home. So we were throwing a fundraiser in what

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Speaker 1: was Josh's hometown, Wisconsin, which I'm from, and I had

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Speaker 1: a buddy of minding some other good folks threw a

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Speaker 1: party to raise money to throw a party for the

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Speaker 1: paratroopers when they got back. And while I'm at this party,

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Speaker 1: guy comes up to me and he says, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: my name's Mike Brennit. Josh was my son, you know,

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Speaker 1: And he says, he do you know the story about him?

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Speaker 1: We'd written about him? At Black five, We talked about

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Speaker 1: this whole incident. We knew sal was in for the

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Speaker 1: Medal of Honor. He just hadn't been awarded it yet,

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Speaker 1: and so Mike's looking at me at this party, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we're in a bar and we're drinking and

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Speaker 1: smoking and having fun, and he says, back about three

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Speaker 1: to four years ago, there was an anti war protest

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Speaker 1: war never solved anything except ending slavery and genocide and fascism.

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Speaker 1: He says, was that you? And I said, um, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: that was me. He says, I'm a Madison cop and

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Speaker 1: I was undercover at that event, and they were worried

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Speaker 1: while I'm wandering in and out all these dirty, nasty

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Speaker 1: but truly smelling anti war hippies, and Mike spent the

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Speaker 1: afternoon following me. And I had my like six year

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Speaker 1: meddis but I looked like one, and so I met it,

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Speaker 1: and it was amazing to know that we had that

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Speaker 1: to Josh and taking care of the unit remembering his son.

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Speaker 1: And he gave me a Kia bracelet that day, and

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Speaker 1: it's got his son's name on it's got you know,

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Speaker 1: the corengal and all the stuff on it. And I've

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that Josh Brennan, American paratrooper,

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Speaker 1: never gets forgotten. Josh Brennan, Jim Hanson. I cannot thank

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Speaker 1: you enough, my friend. That was man. Thank you, my brother,

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Speaker 1: that was awesome. Simplify to you. Thanks for having me

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Speaker 1: on Jesse. How about that? People about that you know

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Speaker 1: your house smells, don't get mad, don't get mad in

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Speaker 1: my house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time

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