WEBVTT - GET ON THE LIST with Peyton List... (S3 E15 "Hot Child In The City") 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Charlotte? You guys, everyone, thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on Are You a Charlotte? Today we are rewatching

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Child in the City, which aired in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>The year two thousand and we have Payton lists with

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<v Speaker 1>us who's in the episode and who must have been

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<v Speaker 1>what like thirteen fourteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I was. I think it was like

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<v Speaker 2>right around I remember it was shooting in the summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was when my birthday fell, so it's somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>around my birthday. But I think we shot it like

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<v Speaker 2>before I turned fourteen or what a day after?

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<v Speaker 1>I do you hear the actual accurate age of the character.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so unusual, and most all of us were within

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<v Speaker 2>a year of each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, And you're there with Kat Dennings, who we love

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Yeah, who's a little baby. I know, just

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<v Speaker 1>a little baby.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I think she's also one

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<v Speaker 2>of those people that I look at and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're completely recognized from the time you were that young

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<v Speaker 2>to like how you grew up, Like you can so

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<v Speaker 2>tell how there's some people like that. Yes, if you

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<v Speaker 2>saw a picture of me when I was seven. It

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<v Speaker 2>does not look really remotely like the same person, but

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<v Speaker 2>you just get those like features exactly this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you look exactly the same exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like there's some coming, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is clear, you know. I mean I'm much older,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know I look the same my whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, yeah, and Kat so specific. Her total

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<v Speaker 1>look is such a specific look. I love to see

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<v Speaker 1>her on the billboards now for her new show, which

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<v Speaker 1>is so funny that she's playing Tim Allan's daughter. I

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<v Speaker 1>played Tim Allan's wife in a movie Shaggy Dog. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. It was a very small world. And I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen her because she then went on to do

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<v Speaker 1>she did this part when you guys were super young,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen fourteen, and this is in the year two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>you were all acting, which you know, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>that later. How did this come to be? But then

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<v Speaker 1>later she goes on to do Two Broke Girls with

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Patrick's other show, Yes, Yeah, which is so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to see her. He would have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things events or dinners or whatever, and I would see her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, they worked so hard, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>so great on that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was well, it was a it was a

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<v Speaker 2>great show show. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>She and Beth were really really amazing. Beth bears so

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<v Speaker 1>great and I love her so much. And the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she is a little child here with yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so they are just to refresh everybody. There

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<v Speaker 1>is Samantha, as we know, is a publicist and she

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<v Speaker 1>gets this client who is a thirteen year old girl

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to have her bat mitzvah and her dad

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<v Speaker 1>is super wealthy, and Samantha is a little bit like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do this. And then Kat's character,

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<v Speaker 1>whose name is People's Big Time, like she really is

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<v Speaker 1>like well, and then she says something about the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a million. Does she say something like

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<v Speaker 1>we I don't think we're gonna be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>this party friend or a million, which Samantha is.

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<v Speaker 2>In your two thousand, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and Samantha is just like oh wow, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at a different point in the show, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all at a restaurant and you guys are there and

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<v Speaker 1>you send Samantha champagne and yeah, even come over and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just you're so it's so accurate too today also

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like, at one point, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>my character's not at the I'm at therapy with Trey apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not there. And the girls say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fourteen going on thirty, like one hundred percent you are.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is how all of them are. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I know any fourteen year olds.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Me, I don't know. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I know any fourteen year olds. Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter's fourteen? Oh wow, okay, all right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know what she's doing great, right, But like sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>look at her friends and I'm like, oh my gosh, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they doing? What are they wearing? I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're wearing nineties clothes, is what they're wearing.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's so it's so strange that we're back. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I look around and I'm like, I was certain this

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<v Speaker 2>would never see the light of day again. Like we

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<v Speaker 2>all decided this was a bad idea, right, collectively, we decided,

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<v Speaker 2>I need these pants will never come back, I know, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You get well, First of all, my daughter's not really

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the low waisted, but she is interested in

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<v Speaker 1>like the baggie they're really into the baggy almost grunge,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't really know it's grunge, right right, I

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<v Speaker 1>really understand the origins of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's and it hasn't gone full grunge like to

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<v Speaker 2>where it was.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think it will. But wait, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about you. How did you come to be on the show?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you? What was going on?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was one of those things where a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the kids who did like children's modeling also

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<v Speaker 2>did children's acting, because it all kind of led over

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<v Speaker 2>to like working kids kind of thing. There were, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, kids that only did acting, or I mean

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<v Speaker 2>most all of the kids that did like children's modeling,

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<v Speaker 2>they would just be like, oh, we'll just go out

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<v Speaker 2>for this audition because really what's required of you is

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<v Speaker 2>following instructions rather than, you know, like if we can

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<v Speaker 2>get some acting out of you, great, But they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>so picky. But it was kind of fell into that

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<v Speaker 2>category because I was already there doing that off and on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just an audition that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like any other audition.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you know what the show was?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, Like I know once I know, once

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. I knew what the show was. But

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<v Speaker 2>again that time where I lived, not everybody had HBO.

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<v Speaker 2>HBO was kind of like this scene as like this

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<v Speaker 2>luxury thing to have. It wasn't this, oh you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have HBO otherwise you're not going to see any

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<v Speaker 2>of the relevant shows that are on the air. Kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing like it was Sopranos and you guys like

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<v Speaker 2>it was six feet under maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but you know it was right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that time where you know, people who maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>households that really cared about like great television would would

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get HBO. But I was aware of it

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<v Speaker 2>because I was in New York all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>I can really remember the billboards because they were everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it was provocative like it was it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been like Martini glass, like exactly exactly

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<v Speaker 1>her laptop in the Cosmo glass. Yeah, it was very

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<v Speaker 1>odd as a you know, I remember being like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>we really want to do this, but super brilliant on

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<v Speaker 1>HBO's part.

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<v Speaker 2>Eye catching. I mean I remember and Keed didn't have HBO,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, didn't know people who watched the show. But

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<v Speaker 2>I remember those bills, right, I remember Penn station, those

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<v Speaker 2>pictures being on you know, the signs and everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about advertising now for shows and movies, it's so risque,

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<v Speaker 1>but back then it wasn't no, especially for TV shows.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like people in suits. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like get a very stilted, posed looking gal gallery set. Absolutely, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. So there you are, you're thirteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Did your parents come with you? How did it work?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was always usually my mother. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things where I again like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust my memory totally, but I do feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I have this memory of going out to.

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<v Speaker 1>Queens. It was it's in which is part of Queens.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't go. I didn't leave Manhattan, mostly because

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<v Speaker 2>that's just not where a lot of like the ghost

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<v Speaker 2>es a castle, right, things right, But I do sort

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<v Speaker 2>of have a memory of going into a room and

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<v Speaker 2>it being a very large room and it just being

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<v Speaker 2>a very different environment to to like a ghost see

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<v Speaker 2>for children's stuff, it was and like the high pressure

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<v Speaker 2>of oh, you've got to say lines like memorized, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was not. I wasn't really like a theater kid,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was this like I don't belong here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pretend. I do. You know what I meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Job, you did a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>I just rewatched it and I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I think you're finishing a stick.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're fingerly generous. I did not understand

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<v Speaker 2>edit back then. Oh my god, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, the way you all look and the

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<v Speaker 1>way you carry yourselves. You're very believable. It's very believable

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of slightly frightening way. But that's the part,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just how well can we shame people, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, but also like just the whole like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is not your fault. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>part right you're entitled. Oh yeh Manhattan girls. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very real thing. Oh yeah, and you're all just gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I didn't understand. I didn't really understand the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of girls that that was inspired by until like

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<v Speaker 2>a few years later when I actually met them. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Because you're running in certain

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<v Speaker 2>circles and you start to overlap with people.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, oh, it's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real thing, And like later on you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what Gossip Girl was sort of basic. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a continuation of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So my thought too, because I know, Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 1>particular season was our season where it was just a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big season, you know, and I remember that some of

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<v Speaker 1>these scenes, like when you guys are coming into the party. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a big scene on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things that's most memorable for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because i'd been in I was in New York a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and like how shocking it was to see like the

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<v Speaker 2>magnitude of shutting down multiple streets in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>midtown Manhattan, Like what that took to do, and how

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<v Speaker 2>as someone who spent a lot of time New York

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<v Speaker 2>and going it's very inconvenient for people. I would be

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<v Speaker 2>really annoyed if I had to walk out of my

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<v Speaker 2>way and you want me to walk in Avenue like,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's probably going, ooh, what's that that's called crafty?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I have some of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean there's so many things that they think,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, New York is you're like, get out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of our way. That's what I would revert

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<v Speaker 2>into it if I wasn't there for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you remember, because I also remember this season

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<v Speaker 1>as being particularly long hours, do you remember that part

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<v Speaker 1>of it all? Like like we often shot all night,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guys would have had your you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>hour requirements because of your age.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and we also were I mean they were single.

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<v Speaker 2>They were kind of single standalone scenes, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>daytime scenes. So it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>More controlled in that way, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have daytime scenes that we would do in

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<v Speaker 1>the mill of the night though, just f yi. But

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<v Speaker 1>because that one when you're coming to the party is

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<v Speaker 1>exterior but exterio, you know, the restaurant for instance, But

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<v Speaker 1>you would when when you're under eighteen, there are union

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<v Speaker 1>rules about how long you can work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't think I knew what those union

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<v Speaker 2>rules were for sure, for sure, but we did, but

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<v Speaker 2>you did, Yeah, and I'm sure they were. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>they were in place, But it also was I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a concept of what working hours were, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your your experience of it not knowing anything is just, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're there until you're done. You know, you're just to

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<v Speaker 2>show up and you just that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think it was fun?

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<v Speaker 2>I did think it was fun. Oh good. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of that was also probably tied to

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<v Speaker 2>being able to like work with other people your own age,

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<v Speaker 2>because so much of that work you're kind of you're

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<v Speaker 2>by yourself with a ton of adults, and while that

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<v Speaker 2>is very comfortable, maybe it's just more fun when there's

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<v Speaker 2>someone that you feel like you can look at and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, you know what I'm going through, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know you have an understanding. Yeah, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>particularly fun because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was were you in school.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we shot it over the summer, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that wasn't mean you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to school. You weren't one of those kids who

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<v Speaker 1>never went to school.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a weird in between, because there would be

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<v Speaker 2>those kids who went to PCs that were like in

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<v Speaker 2>that full time New York school where they were constantly

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out. I was in school in Maryland where I

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<v Speaker 2>was pulled out once two times a week. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a weird arrangement that I had with my school

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do that. But that was affected

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<v Speaker 2>with other work later on a lot more than Sex

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<v Speaker 2>and City being in the summertime and it just being

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<v Speaker 2>you know something, You're just like, I'll never get to

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<v Speaker 2>do something like this again, Like the novelty of it

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<v Speaker 2>just being like, what a cool adventure. I think my

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<v Speaker 2>mother took a lot of pictures that she probably was

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be taking. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we controlled it very well back then.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have the because this is the season that

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<v Speaker 1>we really, like in my experience, at least, jumped up

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<v Speaker 1>a level in terms of popularity, right, Like it first

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<v Speaker 1>season we shot the whole thing before it aired. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just our little secret, right. Second season, people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of knew, but it was kind of niche, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's how I felt. Yeah, I've talked to other

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<v Speaker 1>actors who were like, oh no, everyone wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>on that show was the biggest hit. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest show. We didn't necessarily I didn't feel that way yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Right, It's how you experienced it and how you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of were dealing with the influx of popularity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I mean what I remember first season, second season,

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<v Speaker 1>we still were trying so hard to promote it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone wanted to talk to us, we were like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to them for five hours, you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like whatever, watch our show, Yeah, totally like

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<v Speaker 1>get the word out. Whereas third season it started to

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<v Speaker 1>really have a life of its own and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to like begged people to talk to us, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what I read.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I find that super interesting because like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a number of shows that like maybe found their feet

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<v Speaker 2>in season two or you feel like they really took

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<v Speaker 2>off in season three, and watching that sort of evolution

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<v Speaker 2>of when people start to realize it's a lot different

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<v Speaker 2>than the thing that they felt they were doing initially, right, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for us, we did get to evolve as

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<v Speaker 1>a show too, which was really nice, right, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>got to change you know, whether we were talking in camera,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we had the people on the street, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know there were things from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>That we got changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You went, yeah, and we got into much more. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is where you really see it happening the long

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<v Speaker 1>the long story arc, right, like with Charlotte especially, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my first time to have a long story arc

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<v Speaker 1>like this, right, other than that you knew she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get married, right, but now she actually is married

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<v Speaker 1>and what does that mean? And there's all these problems

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<v Speaker 1>and you know whatnot. Whereas for Carrie, this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an interesting This is the season where she's with Aiden,

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<v Speaker 1>but she cheats with Big, right, that's her big through line,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is kind of a standalone seat. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a yeah for her, which is fascinating, and also for Miranda,

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<v Speaker 1>who gets braces, which I had no memory of. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like what this is one of those ones where I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching it and I felt like I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>it for the first time, Like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't remember any of those stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>What I do remember. I do not remember my storyline,

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<v Speaker 1>not one second, okay, not one second, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>If you had said to me, did you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning our characters go to therapy, I would have been like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was so exhausted and like low level

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed that some of it. I'm just like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what. I don't know if I was in my body, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. I don't know. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, and sometimes you'll just never have an explanation

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<v Speaker 2>as to why no, I mean some stuff doesn't stay.

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<v Speaker 1>I watch myself in it, and it I it seems fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just don't have any memory. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a memory, and I kind of wanted if

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<v Speaker 1>I'd had time, I would have researched this. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how some New York summers are super hot.

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<v Speaker 2>You literally melt into the sidewalk, right, you'd be confused

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<v Speaker 2>with the sort of tar.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, it's soft, right, And the summer before had

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<v Speaker 1>been and we would film in the summer. We would

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<v Speaker 1>start in February where it was cold, okay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we would film all summer pretty much to get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>however many eighteen twenty one, whatever it is that we

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<v Speaker 1>did eighteen and you know, by the end it was

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<v Speaker 1>baking hot, right. Yeah, I believe, and I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that they wrote this episode Hot Child in

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<v Speaker 1>the City based on the fact that the summer before

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<v Speaker 1>was really really hot and then so and we were

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<v Speaker 1>working right, so like we would just be sweaty, sweaty,

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<v Speaker 1>sweating in our hair.

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<v Speaker 2>My impression of the show. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this is like true or not, because I wasn't watching

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<v Speaker 2>it consistently then, because I just didn't have HBO. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>is that like there was a lot of location, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look like a show that was on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. I mean that was by design, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were sometimes because our apartments would alwa sets, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>we had to have some controllable environments because of the

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<v Speaker 1>weather and this and that, and also money, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to film on the locations.

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<v Speaker 2>Shutting down streets cost some money.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of money. And also this EID this season

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<v Speaker 1>is the big season. We got the set on the ferry, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we have big, big, expensive locations, which is how we

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<v Speaker 1>would like to roll at all times. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>our that's our vibe. But there would be times when

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be over budget and we would move back inside

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<v Speaker 1>and then I remember vividly a few times Sarah Jessica saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not okay, this is not our show. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to be on the street. You need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see our shoes, you need to push the cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>You're losing the city parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeh, exactly, And she was so right. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's always a balance, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but then you're also at the mercy of the elements,

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<v Speaker 2>like scorching summers where you know, it's like poor hair

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<v Speaker 2>and makeup trying to I know it deal with the

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<v Speaker 2>heat and the smell.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I love looking back at it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes Sarah's hair has a of friz on.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so gorgeous. It's like almost like a halo

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<v Speaker 1>over her head, you know what I'm saying. Like for Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>no one would ever except that I would have frizz,

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<v Speaker 1>though I do have wavy hair in one scene, which

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<v Speaker 1>I was always really pushing for because I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to wear that same straight hair all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, we get bored, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand from someone with straight hair, I really.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and everyone else loves it, but like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, please just please let

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<v Speaker 1>me do something different. So there's a scene I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, Oh remember when they say we say

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<v Speaker 1>cafeteria was the news? Oh yeah, yeah, I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>had forgotten all of the high school references in this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that at all, And so I did

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<v Speaker 2>do the rewatch and I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get any of these references or like, go

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<v Speaker 2>give the guy your number and not being so cute

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<v Speaker 2>and just lost on me, complainedly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like Sarah Jessica park Man, she was

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<v Speaker 1>so leaned in, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was so adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so adorable and giggly, like we very rarely see her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was really really enjoyable. And also the other

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing about this is it's directed by Michael Spiller.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember this. He was our director.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been our DP. Oh really yeah, okay, not

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<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning, but close to the beginning. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that he'd wanted to direct, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he might have directed before this. I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but what I was struck by watching it. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of cool shots, like when she

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<v Speaker 1>ends up on the balcony with the guy, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into in their overhead, you know, and like there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of cool shots. But also I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone seemed very relaxed.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like that when I'm watching it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I can tell that, like maybe sometimes I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember times where things weren't relaxed, and you know, the

0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.639
<v Speaker 1>writers and the director or usually just the writers wanted

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<v Speaker 1>us to do something, do you know what I'm saying? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see myself trying to execute the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>they want me to do.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like an extra pressure on that thing that you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to achieve, and I can.

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<v Speaker 1>See it in my face, you know, or my voice

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And then sometimes we just seem like relaxed

0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and giggly, which the whole episode not counting me because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the therapy, but everybody else so relaxed and giggly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so charming.

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I had this reaction though, when I was watching because

0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.399
<v Speaker 2>obviously you're watching it years later, so you're watching it

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<v Speaker 2>from a different perspective from life, Yeah, I think, but

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<v Speaker 2>also coming from like New York at the time. Now

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<v Speaker 2>when I watch it, I'm like, you know what, back

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<v Speaker 2>in New York, it does really stand out as this

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<v Speaker 2>almost thing that was viewed as very childish to have,

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<v Speaker 2>like a comic book store for a grown bud get

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<v Speaker 2>into comics and all the stuff. Where's yeah now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's universal, every age, every guy, and we don't look

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<v Speaker 2>at it as the guy who lives in his mom's apartments.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the other thing. It's so now, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>now that.

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<v Speaker 2>But back then we would have it's like so normal

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<v Speaker 2>how the friends reacted to to Yeah, we were like no, absolute,

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just start contrast percent.

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 1>But now it's so accurate now, like no one moves

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<v Speaker 1>out from their parents' house. Apparently, this is what I read.

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know this age people, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five year olds or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most guys that you would meet in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if anything, they would seem older than they were.

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 2>There was this sort of influence of wanting to fit

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.399
<v Speaker 2>into an adult grown up for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The suit, the yeah bros Or finance bros.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, really the last time I went back to

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<v Speaker 2>New York for like a long pair time after I've

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.119
<v Speaker 2>been living in LA and I'm like, everyone's wearing a suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this is it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really funny. And you're like actually looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>guy and going, that's really definitely younger than he looks

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot more grown up.

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Even more true London really oh yeah, oh gosh, they

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>dressed so up. Like certainly if you go to you know,

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.439
<v Speaker 1>like central London, I mean it's insane and intense and

0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.879
<v Speaker 1>the suits are so beautiautiful beautiful, just like whoa. But

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it's also like a little hard to you know, how

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.919
<v Speaker 1>do you how do you relate to that? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting culture thing, but I do feel that

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<v Speaker 1>way in New York as well. But also sometimes when

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I go to Beverly Hills, I'm like, wow, there's a

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of dudes and suits here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, you know, I've entered a place where people

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>feel the need to wear a suit, right, But it's

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 2>like in New York back then, seeing a guy who's

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.480
<v Speaker 2>like T shirt jeans.

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Especially he's got like surfer hair.

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.879
<v Speaker 2>Surfer hair, yeah, yeah, And how you would sort of

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if it was like just culture society,

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 2>how you would like put him in a more juvenile,

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.000
<v Speaker 2>don't take it seriously category.

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.639
<v Speaker 1>But clearly Carrie likes this. It's like I'm going to

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:38.359
<v Speaker 1>do something different.

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Those were the questions they were asking there, like are

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you really comfortable dating the guy? And she's like right,

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:44.360
<v Speaker 2>and good for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She has such a good time with and it's so cute.

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.239
<v Speaker 1>But the thing about the heat, the reason that I

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.119
<v Speaker 1>remember it is because they have that scene on the

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 1>balcony where they get the hose out and I remember

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that was actually chili.

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Of course it was, of course it was.

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 1>This is what I remember. I don't remember anything that

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.879
<v Speaker 1>I did, but I remember that concerned the Sarah Jessica

0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and this guy. We're gonna have to get wet when

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it was chilly, when it was supposed to be hot.

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the silliness just so par for the course, though,

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 2>isn't it If it's supposed to be hot, it's freezing exactly.

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 1>And then we did write when we did it, and

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just like that, we wrote a big snow scene. And

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 1>then the year we were filming, there was no snow,

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know what I mean, So we had

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 1>to manufacture all of it. So let's talk about do

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 1>you have any memories about your fittings. I'm always curious

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<v Speaker 1>about young people coming into our world. But you were modeling,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're probably used to a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of and I think that's probably why I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a memory of that, right. It probably resembled to a

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>degree like any other fitting. Probably, I genuinely don't have

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 2>any memory. I remember my wardrobe, okay, and I remember

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 2>was I can't say it was the first time, but

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 2>it was. There was definitely like wardrobe malfunctioning happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, because because these clothes, these clothes are not

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 4>these clothes are meant to be seen, they're not meant

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 4>to be like functional, and my top did not want.

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 2>To stay on, and it was just like I was

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 2>so used to as a kid. You know, if they're

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, these genes don't fit you, right, we'll

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 2>cut the scene through the middle where you're rear end

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 2>is and stick a sock in it and and like

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 2>that's what you're gonna wear. We will never see you

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>from the back, So that kind of just where's the

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 2>scotch tape or just clip it? You're used to that,

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 2>But with that being live action, I guess you'd say, like, yeah,

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 2>they were double stick taping the top on because the

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 2>straps were breaking and you're getting in and out of

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 2>that limo over and over again. And I definitely had

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 2>a oh no, a moment where I'm like, wow, there's

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people here. I think I might have

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:57.920
<v Speaker 2>flashed them. I don't know, Oh my.

0:23:57.840 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>God, I did at thirteen.

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you're yeah, but you're also just like there's

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 2>no I mean, yeah, you're a little bit self conscious,

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 2>but you're also like well it's summertime in New York

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and the type failed, and well.

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 4>That's a good that's good because there's nothing else you

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 4>can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it was either like a sample or I

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>think it probably right or vintage. I can't remember exactly.

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:21.919
<v Speaker 2>What where, Like maybe it goes down a runway or

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>a catwalk, but it doesn't go in and out of

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 2>limos thirty seven times.

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Real life, yeah, real life, yeah, for sure, for sure,

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 1>for sure. So you remember you did a lot of takes.

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 2>I remember, yeah, I remember there was a lot of

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 2>takes for that. But it also just took a while

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 2>because I think they had to keep like circling the

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>block to do the However they shot the arrival, like

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I think they were shooting huge, huge wide masters and

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff of that, so we were that just took a

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>while to reset over and over again when I watch it.

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>When I watched it back, I'm like, you could just

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 2>see the door just roll up. I know, think it

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 2>was just but I think that's not I feel like

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and again my memory, I feel like that's not how

0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>they shot it, Like they shot more of the Oh

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the car is coming up and they've got

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 2>all those cars around, they've got a preset and all that.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>So I remember that being like a lot of takes

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>and getting that right and having all the young people.

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>That were the extras that we're excited to see you. Yeah.

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're not just dealing with like adult extras,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 2>you're also dealing with teenagers and just getting that just

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>getting that right right. Yeah.

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it can be so patience challenging, you know, like.

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Totally, but that's also where it sort of ignorance is

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 2>bliss if you're not used to that world, because you're

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>just like, I have no idea how many times we're

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 2>doing this. If you're going right, we're gonna be doing

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>this for three hours. So like settle in. If you'd

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 2>known that going in, you might be like, uh, but

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 2>when you don't know it, it's just no.

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And also, I mean the fun is you were together

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>with other young people and you guys can just chat

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>and whatever.

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. I'm sure we're pretty annoying at times for some

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 2>of the pas, but that's it's okay, that's all right,

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 2>a right. I mean you're like, we feel bad, but

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>not really.

0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, why would you so bad?

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're just like so chatty and we're just

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>being silly and yeah.

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's their job, be annoyed, just.

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 2>To be annoyed. Yeah, but up with us?

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Okay, let's talk about the plot. Let's talk about

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the plat. Okay, so we see Carrie she wants to

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>go to a leother store to have her shoes fixed, right,

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>is that right? And then it's the comic book store, right,

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>which is so so how in New York it's so ney.

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking that it's so New York when

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:26.719
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, I'm gonna where'd it go?

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that, Like, wait, did I imagine? That?

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Always happened with me with restaurants, and it would just

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>be heartbreaking because at the restaurants you have memories and

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you want to go back there and have that. Yeah.

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I lived on the Upper West Side for a long time,

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>which of course is not you know, the hot spot anymore,

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>but every single time i'd go back, if I was gone,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the rest of would be different. It would be so sad,

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>so frustrating. But what can you do. It's ever changing.

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>This is how it is.

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>This is the well and also the places that you're

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 2>you feel dependent on, like your shoe repair guy and

0:26:58.040 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>you're like, what do you mean he's not here?

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Totally absolutely, especially for Kerrie, she were very very important,

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 1>very very important. So she goes down, she has a

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>very charming conversation with this guy at this store. I'm like, wow,

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you're very like I just don't even know if that

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>would happen now.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>No, it would, I mean, it doesn't happen in my life.

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 2>But like, also the the ease at Wish, she has

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 2>that conversation with a stranger and any guy that she's like,

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>he's attractive and I know I feel.

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Like also because it's this tiny store, yeah right, so

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Will kind of feels safe.

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, yeah, like when you're watching it,

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you're like necessarily natural and you're going, oh, if that

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>were real life with me, it would be like I'm

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 2>going to count how many times making eye contact with

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>this person that it would be like, what is it?

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what you're assessing a safe situation and stuff

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, right, I mean, yeah, it's been a I

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>can't I don't know. I am trying to think of

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the last time that I would have gotten into a whole,

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>very very long conversation with a stranger in a store.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't think of when it would be.

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, or there's not a whole lot of people around, right,

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's the other adorable kind of thing, is

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 3>like it's like a street level, you know, adorable tiny

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 3>store with like two fifteen year old boys or whatever,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 3>you or just like.

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Goggling Carrie totally in her adorable outfit. And this is

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the much discussed Chanelle top that then she wore later,

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>but in a slightly different color way, I believe though.

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>When I was looking, I was like, no, no, that

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>might be the same one. It's very confusing, but we

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>rewore this in and just like that was that an issue? No,

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it was a good thing discussed.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh okay.

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing about it, I kind of recognize it.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a very specific channel with like blobs of.

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Right a lot of color.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And she had worn it backwards in the first show,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a very sure Jessica thing. She loves things

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>backwards or upside down or whatever mismatch. She likes that.

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And so you can see the little Chanelle tag.

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember when I just rewatched it,

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I saw that tag there and I was like, yeah,

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>because she's wearing it backwards.

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>She's so funny. But then so then she's got Carrie's

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>clothes in storage, right, and they didn't go back and

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>get it out. But Mollie Rogers are costume designer, got

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a call from a vintage place that she knows downtown

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and they said, oh, we have a we have an

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>amazing group of clothes that are from Karen Elson's personal clothes.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>The model, the redheaded model, beautiful red. You recognize her,

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I would. I'm sure very nineties two thousand, Yeah,

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>incredible woman. Used to be married to Jack White. Not

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>that I should be talking about her personal life, but

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>just side note. And she so, So Molly went down

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>there and at the bottom of this basically suitcase was

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>this chanelle top slightly different colors or else maybe faded

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>under sure, and Molly recognized because Molly's been our costume

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>designer forever. So she got it and then Sir Jesca

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>wore it again on and just like that turned around.

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's just the scoop neck without the tag, right,

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and then there's a whole drama. Did she get it out?

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Is it hers?

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Where did it come from? Is it the same one,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>is it a different one? Blah blah blah blah blah,

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>many conversation. But I love that, you know, I love that,

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the clothes are interesting enough that you could

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>even have a conversation about it.

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Well. And I don't think there was anything on television

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>where a woman was wearing clothes like that. No, it

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>just it wasn't network. It wasn't do you know what

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean. It wasn't gone through the sort of all

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the approval steps that what is acceptable to everyone, right.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>It's just well, was creative that we did have a

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that, Like we did have. Michael Patrick,

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I think will admit himself that sometimes he would be

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he would be an a sayer. He would he would

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>say like, no, she wouldn't wear that, and Pat Field

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>will be like she would, you know, and then it

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>would be a whole power struggle. And because Sarah Jessica

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was on the side with Pat usually and really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to push the boundaries in a way that she thought

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<v Speaker 1>was true to that character and true to those women

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>who were living this life and borrowing things. I mean,

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Kendace push No was borrowing things, you know, even though

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>because people say like, well, how could she afford it? Well,

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>she she's not affording all of it. She's borrowing stuff, right,

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you may not be seeing her going ample s sample.

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<v Speaker 1>So absolutely, there's so many creative ways. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>time there was Century twenty one way down on the do.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember, Oh my gosh, I remember it, so what

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<v Speaker 2>a special But then it was like are you going

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>to go down there? Because it was a it was

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 2>a journey, it was there was a field trip to go.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>It was got.

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<v Speaker 1>It was way at the tip, way down down, and

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it was a big place and you had to work

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>hard to find the good things in the big place.

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like they were like, hello, here's the Chloe

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>time you were looking for. No, it was like really

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like hit a miss No, Yeah.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was you had to go in with

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a loose plan that could adapt. But it was like

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>if people are going to like IKEA or I guess

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>like now like an H and M, where there's so

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>much stuff and if you're looking for one thing, you're like,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to pace yourself. You have to go in caffeinated,

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you have to be ready, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>You to have a melt down and leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely definitely, definitely, And Molly said she was there so

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<v Speaker 1>much that people would ask her where the belts were

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>they thought she worked there. Yeah, but we got credible,

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>incredible things there. I mean it was the only way

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that we could because we were borrowing stuff by this

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>point in this show, but we had started with a

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>tiny budget, you know, so they just had to be

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<v Speaker 1>super creative as well.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be Yeah, everyone, everyone in New York has to be

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>super creative. Okay. So Carry goes in. She meets this

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>adorable guy with this like surfer hair who has a

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>comic store, which is also really entertaining and funny, but

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>much more niche back then, like it was before Marvel.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Was like that's that's the funny thing. Seeing it now,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>it was so like niche and you're like, oh wow,

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 2>if they only.

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<v Speaker 1>Knew exactly exactly, I hope we kept that store going

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that guy. And then they so they go to on

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<v Speaker 1>a date to Barcode. I feel like bar Code is

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<v Speaker 1>still there?

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you think?

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's still there? Amazing. Yeah, And it's so obviously

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>not Carrie's normal vibe, but she's having such a good time.

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>It's perfect, Like what they're the story.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing absolutely And when she gets on that scooter

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>in the street, I mean, I don't remember any of

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this at all. When she gets on that scooter, I mean, hello, how.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you not fall over?

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, because I know her, I'm not, I'm not. I

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't even think for a second she was going to

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>follow her, because I know her. She can do anything

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in those heels. But the thing that made me laugh, like,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>think about East scooters now, like this is so prescient.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Our whole episode is so timely.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Of those scooters. I remember had a real moment like

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 2>everywhere there was razor y Razor scooters, you know that

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>would fold up and they.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my kids went through a big Razor phase.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were so popular, I think, especially right

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>around that time.

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's so funny that this guy is on

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a scooter and has a comic book store. He's really

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>ahead of his time. You know, at the time, we

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>do we not realize. Yeah, we all criticize him, but

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>he was right on the pulse, right on the pulse

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of things to come. So she adorably goes on a

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>day with him and goes scootering, and then he says

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<v Speaker 1>he do you want to come over to my impressive

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<v Speaker 1>apartment with the view, little dish.

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<v Speaker 2>She know.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>They go to like an unbelievable You don't see the

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>whole apartment, Okay, you mostly see the balcony, but they've

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>basically got like a view of of everything, right, Like

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>it's very intense, and she says, a breasts side. But

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you can see the river, like I

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's on the East River.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>But I thought in my head, I'm like, it's a

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>view of the park, but it's I.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Mean it might. I don't need more attention. I feel

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like over across the water is Brooklyn,

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? Yeah?

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 2>But I also I believe you because in my head

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I could have just dropped in whatever I thought.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Of course, your own actions, because the way the balcony looks,

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it looks like the traditional buildings that would be over

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>on fifth, right, yeah, right, But I don't know if

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it is. I don't know if it is, and I

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there obviously physically, so I have no idea. But

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>so they go and she's wondering, you know how he

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>has this incredible apartment which is so adorable, And then

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>we find out that it is because he lives with

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>his mom and she's adorable.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>She's so cute, he's so cute.

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>So cute, and she wants to give them lemonade and whatnot,

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>which is also really funny and weird. And he's really

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>accepting of it all, which is like, how old is he?

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to know.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 2>How old's the character?

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, do we ever say? I don't think we do.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I think he's definitely at least mid thirties, right, He's

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>gotta be, He's got to be.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting how I feel like.

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 2>The age was referenced multiple times where yeah, because I

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>think because of the Miranda character storyline about the braces

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>and everything, where yes, she's I was surprised how many

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>times that she's like, we're there's the thirteen year olds

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 2>and we're thirty four, thirty five or whatever it was. Yes,

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 2>that I don't remember that being such a references.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>A reference because back at this time we were considered old. Right,

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>we just really laugh out loud, funny. I mean, we're

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty three and we're talking about.

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what sort of like society conditions.

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.959
<v Speaker 1>We weren't wrong, we were wrong. That was very true.

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>For us back then. Yeah, but that's partly why we

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about it so much. YEA, Like now, I don't

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>think anyone frowns on anybody getting braces at any age.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.919
<v Speaker 2>No, And it's also a lot more common.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>More common, right, like tremendously more.

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Actually, when I see adults with braces, I'm like, you

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>don't have a fear of commitment, you know, like I

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>just gonna be good for you. Like I feel like

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>if someone to me said you need braces now and

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>be like, I just don't know, Like I think I'm

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>just gonna yeah. I like that seems like a lot

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>of commitment, like when to commitment.

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>My daughter has braces. It's a lot of commitment. I

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>love her orthodontist, thank goodness. We look forward to seeing

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>doctor esther. But it is a lot of commitment.

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like with the adults that do it, you're.

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, you know, you're making some time, you're making some.

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Time, and yeah, and you're like that's self love, that's

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like good, good for you.

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree, totally. I agree, totally. So Carrie, Carrie does

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>discuss this young man or whatever. I don't know if

0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he's younger. I mean, I did not feel like he

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>was our age, though when I was watching it, I

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>felt like maybe he was late twenty, I was younger.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He just seems younger, I mean, but obviously he's living

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>with this would.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Have made references to his age being younger, Like if

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 2>they were discussing, like you're dating a guy who's they're like, yeah,

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 2>but he's younger, right, But I feel like there was

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a sort of comparison of.

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>The point, yeah, we don't really say that, Yeah, we

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>don't really say that, but he does own his own shop, right,

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>so like he's a total you know you guys, this

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is so much fun that we're going to have to

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>have a part two, so join us later in the

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>week on Are You as Charlotte