1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. Ron, thanks you checking my call on the 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: show and listening to to walk. Where is me to 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: see this way? The Car Doctor. If I've got it 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: where I can't get anything to grip at all and 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm in a real tight spot, what else can I 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: make that into? My fail safe is I will try 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: to take either a file of hacks all blade something 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: and cut a slot in the bolt. Welcome to the 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. Since 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five six and now he Annie, Hey, 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines. Welcome upboard rounding leading 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at zero the Car Doctor seven 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: phone number. More information at Car Doctors show dot com. 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: That's what this radio show is about, helping you solve 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: your automotive problem and bringing it to life for everyone 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: else so we can talk about it here on air 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: and get it going. Let's get fixed in to see 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: what we can do real quick before I get over 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to the busy phones and I should point out down 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: around the bottom of the hour, we're gonna be joined 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: by rich Whitey's from the Car Care Council. They're gonna 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: be stopping by to talk to us all about winter 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: car care and maybe some holiday travel tips and things 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: like that, things to be aware of because we are 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: headed into the holidays and um, you know, winter driving, 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and I've always said that, you know, winter driving is 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: a whole lot tougher than summer driving. Summer driving and 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: you get stuck, you pull over the side of the road, 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: you put a shrimp on the barbie, and you wait 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: for the tow truck win they're driving. It's not so 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: much fun to barbecue on the side of the road 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: and twenty degree weather. So I just want to be 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: mindful of getting that car ready for you know, winter driving. 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: And we're just gonna stop by to talk to us 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: about it real quick. This article caught my eye from 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the New York Times about air tires, and it seems 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: that spare tires. No, not the one around their middle 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: midsection there, Tomas. This is the one that's uh, you know, 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: used to be in the trunk of the car. And 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: about how many cars are are doing away with it. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: It starts out with nearly a third of twenty seventeen 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 1: models offered in the United States do not come outfitted 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: with the Save the Day's spare is standard equipment. According 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: to a recent study by Triple and Truth, the extinction 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: of the spare tire has been happening for years. Full 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: sized spars gave way to space saving donuts. You sometimes 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: spot on vehicles at high speeds, and I agree they 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: are worrying. The in turn are yielding their under floor 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: real estate to no tire at all. How crazy is that? 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't understand the logic of it. 55 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, and everything is going to run flats And 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: this is my commentary. You know, we're going to run 57 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: flat tires and more and more vehicles and a lot 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: of you don't even realize whether or not the vehicle 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: comes with a spare until after the you know, the 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: check cleared hand, don't have a spare? Oh well, we 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: love you, but um, you know it maybe something you 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: know you've really got to bring up at the point 63 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: of purchase, and you really want to address if there's 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: a spare tire available for that vehicle. I think it's 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: worth having it at pretty much any price because a 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: run flat. How many times I see a run flat 67 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: come in and the side walls gashed or it's an 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: unrepaarable puncture, and that vehicles on the back of a 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: flatbed the tire gets shredded because they don't have a 70 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: spare and that's a problem and I don't understand it. 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: And a real quick tip And this is what kind 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: of got me really thinking about spars. This. We have 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: a customer, Joe. He's driving an No. Five GMC Express van, 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Chevy Express Van, same thing. The spare tire is down 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: underneath in the back and it hasn't been down and 76 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: he just he's with us a year now. We just 77 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: we always pulled him down once a year. We went 78 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: to pull it down this year and the winch was 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: all frozen in place, and we end up having to, 80 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, undo the winch. And but the rim is 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: so badly rusted because it's been stored underneath, and it's 82 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: taken all that road spray and salt and and and 83 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: schmutz which is a technical term. And he's got this 84 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: big empty van most of the time, I said, Joe 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: let's let's take it down. Will sand blast the wheel 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: painted with a little rustolium and stick it in the van. 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: You know what I did that. I did that with 88 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: the spare tire on the O eight Silverado three years ago. 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: And I don't miss the storage space in the back. 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: The spare tire secure And if I ever get a 91 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: flat tire in the snow, I'll be ready. I'll have 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: a nice dry tire to to drag out of the 93 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: back instead of having to crawl under anything of snow bank. 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: It's just sometimes where they're putting these spares is just ridiculous. 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: But great article in the New York Times. This is 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: about two weeks ago, three weeks ago. I'm sure if 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: you Google you can find it and read it its entirety. 98 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to go through it. But they talk 99 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: about the price of spare tires and wheel kits and um, 100 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: some Honda's come with space savers and some don't, and 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: they talk about the cost of things like that. And 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: you know what, safety can't be underestimated when it comes 103 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: to an automobile. Uh, the road is a very unforgiving place. 104 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: And when you need help the most, when you're in 105 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the side of the road you'll be you'll be glad 106 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: to that ounce of prevention. So just just be aware 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: of spare tires. Maybe it's a good segue. We'll leave 108 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: that in good something to talk about with Rich White 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: later on this hour from the Car Care Council. But anyway, 110 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: this is Ronan Aindy and the car doctor. I am he, 111 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: I am here at zero nine zero zero. Let's keep 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: the garage doors open and go talk to Brian Kansas City, Missouri, 113 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: two thousand, Ford Excursion seven three power stroke. Yeah, Brian, 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, I got got this truck and 115 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I pulled the trailer with it the other day and 116 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: it was empty and I was just going to pick 117 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: up some scaffolding, and uh, I got to the plate. 118 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: I noticed when I was driving that it first, you know, 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: when I started out, it shipped into overdriving that you 120 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: could tell torqure locked up. I was on flat and 121 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, putting any power to it. And 122 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: then about halfway through I noticed it. It shifted out 123 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: of overdrive and it never shifted back in. Then when 124 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I got to where I was going, I pulled up 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: and I was on a little hill and I was 126 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: backing in and when I put it reverse, I backed 127 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: up probably two and a half feet, and it was 128 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: like the brakes were on. It wouldn't roll forward and 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: it wouldn't go back anymore. It wasn't slipping because it 130 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: was you could you know, it was lugging the motor 131 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: when I was pushing on the gas. So I put 132 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: it neutral and they rolled forward. I did it like 133 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: two more times than it Finally, when I put it reversed, 134 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: it backed up normal and I got it home. I 135 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: checked the fluid and it it didn't seem burnt. Burnt, 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: but I've never in my life had you know. I 137 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: googled it and looked. I couldn't find anything on any 138 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: of the forward truck enthusiast stuff, nothing about that. So 139 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I just called you and see if you had any 140 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: knowledge of anything like that. A couple of things come 141 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: to mind. Do you think it was transmission related or 142 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: do you think it was break pedal related or brake related. 143 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it was break because it never did it, 144 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, and unless I put it in reverse, you know, 145 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: and then uh, it hasn't done it since and I'm 146 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: driven it probably then okay. Um power steering system seem 147 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: to work, Okay, no whining, no complaining, Uh no, no howling. 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I have seen cases, well I've seen I've seen a 149 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: couple of different things that describe your symptoms. So now 150 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: we've got to figure out what's good what's bad. I 151 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: have seen cases where the power steering pump fails in 152 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: the early stages and it starts to put debris in 153 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: the power steering system, and that creates a restriction which 154 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: will cause the brakes to stay in the apply point. 155 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's a problem. So sometimes taking 156 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: a sample of power steering fluid or flushing power steering 157 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: fluid will become will will become a a a a 158 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: way around it. Ford does make a filter, or they 159 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: did at one point they did make a power steering 160 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: inline filter because this was such a chronic issue. I 161 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: don't remember the whole number. I just remember it started 162 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: at X ray Charlie Zebra seven Baker. I don't remember 163 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the let the rest of it, but that should be 164 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: enough to get your going if you get out to 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: the local Ford store. X ray Charlie three Zebra seven 166 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Baker is how I remember. Uh, you know, it was 167 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: an inline power steering filter. You can't take a sample 168 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: of power steering fluid out. Try straining it through a 169 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: white cloth and see what residue if any has left over. 170 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you see some particulate in there. Maybe you don't, 171 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: all right. The other thing that I have seen is 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: if you look on the right side of the transmission, 173 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: there's an electrical plug, all right, that's the converter apply 174 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: connector if if the problem occurs again unplugged, that does 175 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: the problem go away? If the problem goes away, there's 176 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: a reasonable chance. I have seen also where the harness 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: is shorted and it gives an apply command to the 178 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: torque converter because you shifted into reverse. It flexes and 179 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: it creates well, it'll it may or may not create 180 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: a code because it doesn't know that it's a problem. 181 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: It's just enough to it's not the harness that it 182 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: allows the interior harness of the harness itself to touch 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: at the wrong spot where it's eighteen years later it's 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, ground through on a flat spot or a 185 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: warrant warn area, and it creates a short and it 186 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: creates a miscommunication. It applies the converter at the wrong time, 187 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: and you get this condition when it okay, when it 188 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: when it happened, do you recall if you put it 189 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: in neutral, could you have the engine up? Yeah? Yeah, 190 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: would as soon as you put it in neutral, it 191 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: would it would roll forward. I would. I wouldn't even 192 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: have I didn't even have the food on the break 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: because it stopped and wouldn't move, and I let my 194 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: foot to break and I was on a pretty good hill. Uh, 195 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: and they didn't move forward. As soon as I shifted 196 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: it into neutral, it uh, it rolled forward. So if 197 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: putting it in neutral allows it to roll, tells me 198 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: it's likely not break. And then when you put it 199 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: back and drive, it was locked up. Now way I 200 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: put it in drive, it would go. It would go 201 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: forward just like the like nothing was wrong. It three 202 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: times yea, three times in reverse and I haven't got 203 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: to do it again. So so you could back up 204 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: the truck right now and reverse. Yeah. Yeah, I'm betting 205 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: this is in the trans all right, That's what I'm 206 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: thinking now. The one caution I would like to suggest 207 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: is before you start unplugging connectors and and playing with this, 208 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: here's an example where again I'd like to do a 209 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: complete vehicle scan, print and post, you know, write everything down, printed, posted, store, 210 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, here's what you started with. 211 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: Here's what you got when you're done. At least it 212 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: gives you something to compare to. Because one thing, one 213 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: thing I can one thing I can guarantee you, is 214 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: that when you're all done with disrepair, unless you write 215 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: it down, you're you're gonna probably forget about it. Uh 216 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: you know what exactly what codes we had and when 217 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: and how and uh you know, Um, I like to 218 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: I like to print things. It gives me a file, 219 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: It gives me something to look back on, and um, 220 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: you know things like that. So but that's that's how 221 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: I would approach it, all right, sir, I appreciate the help. 222 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: Not a problem. And if you need me him here, 223 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: So not a problem with you. Take good care of 224 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: good luck, let us know what happens. You're very welcome. Um. Yeah, 225 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: it's and then it could be internal. And the last 226 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: thing I should have said this to Brian was this 227 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: could be internal in the trans to. This could be 228 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: an internal trans issue. So, um, one step at a time, 229 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: let's see where we go. Five five, five six zero 230 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. And by the way, I should 231 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: make a correction. We car here Council is not gonna 232 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: be bottom of the hour. We're gonna do him coming 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: up around the other side, UM to give him his doe. 234 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: So but either way, Rich White from the car here 235 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: Council will be with us UM this hour for sure. 236 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: So eight five zero nine zero zero. Run on any 237 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: of the car doctor coming back right after this. Hey, 238 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: welcome back nading of the car Doctor. Eight five zero 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. More information at Car Doctor show dot com. 240 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I want to just take a couple of minutes here 241 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: and talk to you about exhaust leaks, all right. It 242 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: seems is like I just I noticed it lately, sitting 243 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: at stop signs and traffic lights. A lot of vehicles. 244 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: It seems like more vehicles, I won't say a lot, 245 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: but more vehicles. I'm hearing more and more exhaust leaks. 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: And I get it. You know what, tough economy. It's 247 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: always a tough economy. Though, it seems exhaust systems are 248 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: definitely very expensive, more expensive to fix than they've ever 249 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: had been. And a lot of that has to do 250 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: with it seems that you know, they've been made out 251 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: of stainless now for a very long time, and when 252 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: they do go bed they are in such bad shape 253 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: they need everything. And you know, two thousand dollars on 254 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: an exhaust system on some cars is not unheard of. 255 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: But here's the bigger problem, and here's what kind of 256 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: caught my attention. You get a car with an exhaust leak, 257 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: and then maybe maybe not, depending upon where the leak is. 258 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: In a relatively short period of time, check engine light 259 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: comes on. The mechanical going scan it or you'll go 260 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: skin and it's got a P zero four or P 261 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: zero four three. It's got a cat efficiency code. I 262 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about that catalytic converter efficiency. 263 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: And if you've had this, you know how expensive this 264 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: can be. It can be a thousand, it can be 265 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: can be two thousand for a catalytic converter, can be 266 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: a lot more. The problem is this, in order for 267 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: the onboard computer to understand how effective or efficient that 268 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: catalytic converter is, it's making a measurement. It measures oxygen 269 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: content going in and compares it to oxygen content going out. 270 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, there's something called osc oxygen storage capacity that 271 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: a catalytic converter is rated for its ability to store 272 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: oxygen before it has to give it up and they 273 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: look at it and they it's it's a it's a 274 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: term they call switch rater. They talk about switch rate 275 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: where it'll it'll you know, stop storing and then start releasing. 276 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: And they're looking at there has to be a number 277 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: involved here where they want to see a sevent storage capacity. 278 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: So everything and anything can affect that downstre where that 279 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: post catalytic converter oxygen sensor think of. Think of the 280 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: thermostat on the house, on the wall of your house, right, 281 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: you set it for sixty eight degrees, it drops below 282 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: sixty eight the temperature, the heat, the heat comes up, 283 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: it brings it back up to sixty eight. It works. Well, 284 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: what if that thermostat was near an open window and 285 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: somebody left the window open, and there's a cool breeze 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: blowing on that thermostat and it's affecting its readings. So 287 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: it seems it's still getting that chill of cold air, 288 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: and the heat's always running. It's always on, it's always 289 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: trying to bring it up to temperature. It's always trying 290 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: to complete its cycle. That's sort of like what an 291 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: exhaust leak does to an oxygen sensor, and that's the 292 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: whole point of this conversation. We've had a couple in 293 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: the shop in the past two weeks. We've had an 294 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: O four Nissan Xtera. We've had a ninety nine Lexus 295 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: um SUV the UH the e x was it the 296 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: three F three that developed OXYD that developed law system 297 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: leaks about in each case four to five inches downstream 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: of the Postcatto two censor that thermostat on the wall. 299 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: And in both cases fixing the exhaust leak fixed the 300 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: catalytic converter full. Now, it wasn't necessarily cheaper fixing the 301 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: exhaust leak in both cases. One of them I think 302 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I talked about last week, the four Extera. The exhaust 303 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: system was obsolete for an all four Extera rear wheel drive, 304 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: four cylinder, five speed trans We had to make an 305 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: exhaust system using a V six Extera muffler and tail 306 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: pipe and then a straight pipe to connect it into 307 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: the rest of the system. But it did solve the 308 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: problem without putting a cat on the car. Not to mention, 309 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: and the same thing with the Lexus. We we ended 310 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: up putting a patch sleeve in and spliced in the 311 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: rest of the exhaust and and and sealed the system up, 312 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: not to mention. And this is the other downside for 313 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: exhaust leaks, because I don't think people stop and think 314 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: about the what ifs. All right, they see a P 315 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: zero P zero four thirty and this is my point, 316 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: and they will just needs a catalytic converter. Let's put 317 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: a cat on it. Save yourself some money. If your 318 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: car has got an exhaust leak and it's got catalytic 319 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: converter codes before you rush out and change cats, get 320 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: it diagnosed and where are the exhaust leaks? And understand 321 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: that most modern cars, the exhaust systems will have exhaust reversion, 322 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: just like it sounds. Exhaust flows this way and then 323 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: that way, and this way and then that way. It's 324 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: a back and forth process. And the point becomes, you 325 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: can save yourself a bunch of money. Now, in the 326 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: case of the Lexus, we actually had a splice in 327 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: a collar and it was cheaper because the exhaust system 328 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: going south from Lexus, if you know, we want to 329 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: compare it to something was about like just in parts 330 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: um uh. But then you know you can do aftermarket stuff, 331 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: but it's half the price, but it's still over a 332 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So I just I just want to make 333 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: this point known. I just want to be able to 334 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: say that I said something that not every catalytic converter 335 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: efficiency fault leads directly to a catalytic converter. That there 336 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: are moments where you've obviously you've still got to diagnose it. 337 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: There are some tests and some measurements that have to 338 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: be made and understand that an exhaust leak can create 339 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: cat codes. Now the other side of an exhaust leak, 340 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: and I just want to mention this too, that I 341 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: want you to be aware of. We're into winter. Windows 342 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: are closed, right, it's called that we've got the windows closed, 343 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: we've got the heat on. Maybe we're drawing outside air 344 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: a lot of you know what I'm gonna say, those 345 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: exhaust leaks, depending upon where they are, you might be 346 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: drawing exhaust fumes into the cabin while you're driving, and 347 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: they can create drowsing, is they can be health issues. 348 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: It's not good for you. There's a reason why they 349 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: want the exhaust to get out underneath the car and 350 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: so you're not breathing engine fumes while you're traveling. So 351 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: just you know, just stop and think about it. The 352 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: dollars you're saving, maybe hurting you in the long run 353 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: and maybe causing other problems somewhere else down the line. 354 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: So I get it. It's expensive. Um, you know, gee whiz. 355 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: We were just talking this hour about the price of 356 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, last hour about the price of cars. 357 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: Dollars for a G M. C u con. I understand 358 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: why car repairs sometimes get turned down, but then again 359 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: sometimes I understand why we don't do more of them, 360 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: but we're not fixing more cars instead of trading him 361 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: and for new ones. So double edged sword, think about 362 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: exhaust leaks. Um. But anyway, that's that. I'm not an 363 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Hey, 364 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: coming up next, Let's get over talk to Eric and Maine. 365 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Oh wait, Toyota to coma. Eric, you're out with the 366 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? Hey? Tom? First time, 367 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: long time, Thank you, thank you, sir. What's going on? 368 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: I gotta no way to cool? When I bought brand new, 369 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: it's got just shot a two hundred thousand miles on it. 370 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: So it's just broke in. And what you say, yeah, 371 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: just broken in? Man, keep going awesome. I appreciate that. 372 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm hoping. Um, yeah, and I've done nothing but regular 373 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: mediance oil gear. Filter still has original belts, original spark plugs, 374 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: everything's original. Um, I just started having a little problem 375 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: with it. It come out in the morning, started up, 376 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: It'll start up and then die like it's running out 377 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: of gas. Um I unplugged the I unplugged the positive 378 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: side of the battery for a couple of three, four 379 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: or five seconds, boom five, shot up and takes off. 380 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: All right. So the next so the next time it happens, 381 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: you've you've got you know, the next time it happens. 382 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: What you're telling me is it'll start and die and 383 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: then it won't restart, and then you'll do your your, your, 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: your little do their disconnect the battery and it'll it'll 385 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: start on its own. Um, somehow, you're gonna have to 386 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: establish this so that before you disconnect it, you're gonna 387 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: have to get it scanned, because you're you're taking away 388 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: the most valuable piece of information, whatever code lies within 389 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: that system. And you know, from there we can we 390 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: can have the conversation because this could be this could 391 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: have something to do with the anti theft, This could 392 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: be a bad ignition key this could be a problem 393 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: within the engine performance system as far as a throttle body. 394 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: This could be schmutz, which is a technical term on 395 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: the on the mass airflow sensor. Um. You know, there's 396 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things. This could be what it could 397 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: have shoot um. But you know, disconnecting the battery tells 398 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: me it doesn't seem to throw a code though, well 399 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: check engine. Well it doesn't throw a code. You know 400 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: that because why because you don't see a check engine light? Right, Okay, 401 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: So it could be you ever get you ever get 402 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: sick in your life? Eric? You ever? You know you 403 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: wake up Yeah, so you know, you wake up on 404 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: Monday and you kind of feel crumbing and but you 405 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: don't really get the sniffles in the head cold until 406 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: when day. Uh okay, car computer does the same thing. 407 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: You you disconnected. You disconnecting the battery. You just took 408 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: away whatever information it had on Monday. So Wednesday when 409 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: it finally gets sick. You know, the doctor just doesn't 410 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: know where to start. It'd be like you calling up 411 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: the doctor and saying, hey, I don't feel good, give 412 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: me an examination over the phone. You know, it's it's 413 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: just he he can't get his hands on your brother. 414 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: He's gotta you know, he's got to give you the 415 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: deal and and that's and that's part of it. So 416 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: it's got to get scanned. Now, I'd be curious if 417 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: you turn the key off, walked away, and came back 418 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: in five minutes, if you tried that, does the car restart? Um? Yes, 419 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: it has, Yes, and it will restart, okay, So it's 420 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: going into some kind of a reset or because if 421 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: you do that right away, it won't start correct okay, 422 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's gotta wait. There's some sort of 423 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: time that's a factor here. Now, if you could tell me, hey, Ron, 424 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it, it'll it won't restart in four minutes, 425 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: but it does restart in eight if you can be 426 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: very specific. If you can figure that out, that tells 427 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: me that I'm probably dealing with a module that has 428 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: the time out. And then I'm gonna think more along 429 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: the lines that I've got an alarm system issue, because 430 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: that's that's that's typical indicative of an alarm system module 431 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: failure or a pending failure because they're usually on the clock, 432 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: all right, So you know this could and by the 433 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: same token, this could have an alarm module fault. You'll 434 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: never see a check engine light because a check engine 435 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: light only comes on when emission's values exceed one and 436 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: a half times the legal limit. No alarm, no alarm 437 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: fall is gonna trigger a check engine light. You know, 438 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: you you could be seeing something, you know, when they 439 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: finally scan this for codes. This may have a bee 440 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: um which actually is stored in the engine module, but 441 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: may or may not cause a check engine light because 442 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: it's got a fault with the ignition key. So you know, 443 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: here's a case where for the past couple of well, 444 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: for a while now, I've been saying you've got to 445 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: do complete system scans and you know, scan every module 446 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: on the vehicle. Here's a case for it. You gotta 447 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: get it to a mechanic, you know, stick out your 448 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: tongue and say on, let them, let them poke and 449 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: prod and you know, look at every module and see 450 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: what faults are lying in there. Don't predicate whether or 451 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: not there's a fault code based on whether or not 452 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: there's just a check engine light alright, sir, But it 453 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: doesn't have any type of alarm system on it. Uh. 454 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: The keys themselves, the keys themselves should be chipped. There 455 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: should be chips in these keys. This isn't This is 456 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: an oh, this is an O eight for a leader. Yes, 457 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: six cylinders, yeah, four oh six? Yeah. This this probably 458 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: has this should have an alarm transpondering it. You just 459 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know it. But again, even if it doesn't, I 460 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: still want to scan it for codes. That's where I 461 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: would begin this diagnosis. If this is at the shop, Eric, 462 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I would tell you, I would tell you leave me 463 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: the truck. And I'm not suggesting you drive down from 464 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: me to do that, but just saying I would tell 465 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: you leave me the truck and let me duplicate it 466 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: and then let me get some information out of it. 467 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: Because if I have absolutely no fault codes anywhere and 468 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: the problem happens, that sends me this direction. If I 469 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: have fault codes, that sends me that direction. So I've 470 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: got to know what fault codes, if any you're either 471 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: pending hard or about to happen. Always a good place 472 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: to start, Okay, So good luck, good luck to you. Brother. 473 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: You let me know you you give me called back 474 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: if you need more information. So I'm by the way. 475 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: This is this is ron Uh, that's right, brother, call 476 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: me anything but call me anything but late for dinner. 477 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: Do you have yourself a good rest of the weekend. 478 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: All right, you're very welcome. Take good care, Ron and 479 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: any of the car Doctor. Hey. Coming up next, we're 480 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: gonna be joined by a Rich White from the Car 481 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Care Accouncil talking about getting your card ready for the 482 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: holiday driving season and beyond. So stick around for that. 483 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: We'll return after a few Hey. Hey, we're back Ron, 484 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: Any and the Car Doctor. You know, we talk about 485 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: what we try avoid, and we do talk about your 486 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: car breaking down, and and the conversation between you and 487 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: I over the years has been that, you know, it's 488 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: easier to break down in the summer because then it's 489 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: time to get the lawn chair out and sit in 490 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the back and get some suntan while you're while you're 491 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: waiting for repair and rescue to show up. But we're 492 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: approaching winter in most of the continental United States as 493 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: well as the world, and you know, in terms of 494 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: breaking down in the winter, not so much fun. So 495 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: we thought we'd reach out to the experts over at 496 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: the Car Care Council and talk to them a little 497 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: bit about well, you know, car care, because that's what 498 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: they do. And we're glad to have with us today, 499 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: Rich White. He's the executive director of the Car Care Council. Rich, 500 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the garage today. My pleasure on 501 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: good to be with You know, weather is changing and 502 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: obviously it's it's going to be colder. The colder temperatures 503 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: are definitely here. Um. Why is it so important to 504 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: prepare your car for winter? And you know cars have changed. 505 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: What goes into winter rising your vehicle nowadays? Well, sir, 506 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: har swinter weather it really can take a tall uh 507 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: and stress out the vehicle and the driver, just because 508 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: everything seems to be just a little more difficult than 509 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: uncomfortable during the winter for the car and and the drivers. 510 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: So it's just important to properly prepare for these elements. Um, 511 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: whether you're facing tons of snow or just some colder 512 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: than normal weather, depending on where you are. But you know, 513 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: if your car is in good condition, you checked it out, 514 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: it's gonna be less likely to break down on the road. Uh, 515 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: you won't uh, you know, find yourself in an unplanned 516 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: road emergency when the weather it takes a sudden turn 517 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: for the worst. Mainly it's it's a good peace of 518 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: mind as well. You want to be able to get 519 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: up in the morning. I know that that car is 520 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: going to start and get you where you want to go. 521 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: And with with holidays, you don't want in the family. 522 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: You pack them in the car. You don't want to 523 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: break down away from home. So it's it's easy to 524 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: um to check the vehicle out and get it prepared 525 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: for the enter um weather. And it just makes good sense. 526 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: You know, rich, somebody out there listening has got a 527 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: sixteen they've got a year old car, and they might 528 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: be going now, I don't need to do that. I've 529 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: got a new car, and you know their their their partners. 530 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Somebody else in the house may have that ten year 531 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: old car. They may have that two thousand six or 532 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: two thousand seven. But when you know car care really applies. 533 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: You know winter, you know it's a year old, it's 534 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: ten years old, it's not new, and you've really got 535 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: to look at them regardless of age. Correct. Oh, absolutely, 536 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: because winter, like we said, winter colon, it magnifies existing problems. 537 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: And whether your car is a year old or ten 538 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: years old, I mean it does. Uh, it's hard on 539 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: the batteries. Cold weather, it's hard on the batteries. That 540 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: you need to have a proper level of anti freeze. 541 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: You want to make sure that breaks are are are 542 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: working properly. You know it's tough enough stopping on snow 543 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: and ice. You know it's tricky enough, but you don't 544 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: want them pulling one way or the other for some reason. Tires, 545 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: you know, cold weather UH will drop the p s 546 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: I the pounds per squerence And you know a lot 547 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: of times people get up the morning and their tire 548 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: indicators on the lights on in their panic, but it's 549 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: it's because you know, for every ten degree drop in temperature, 550 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: the tire pressure goes down one or two uh points. 551 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: So UH, lights and wipers, even new cars, you want 552 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: to be seen and you want to be able to see. 553 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: And it's very very important to check all of these 554 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: these things, even if you're not getting ready to go 555 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: on a big trip but just getting around town to 556 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: work for the club, different things. So it sounds like 557 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: that's a real good plan for people to follow. Maybe 558 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: since we're in the holidays, UM, I know I'm going 559 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: to get email over this, but maybe we make them 560 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: a New Year's resolution. How about a car care resolution? 561 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: You know, help them get into the habit of taking 562 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: care of the car in a better basis because that'll, 563 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, the better to take care of the car, 564 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the better it can take care of them. And don't 565 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: the studies show that the repair costs um maybe you're 566 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: more controlled or less of a burden on in that 567 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: case if you maintained the car. There's a positive to 568 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: this too, right, Oh absolutely, And if you're if you're 569 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: listeners or anything like you and me, probably you know 570 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: one of the resolutions every years to spend less money 571 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: and to save more money, and your vehicle is a 572 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: real good way of doing that because one you want 573 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: to you want to avoid buying a new car if 574 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to. Let's just be very candid here, 575 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: a new car average costs about thirty four dollars um. 576 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: That's that's a lot of money. But the cars today 577 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: are last thing. And you know the average car on 578 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: the road is almost twelve years old, and they're built better, 579 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: they last longer, So you can save a ton of 580 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: money by not buying a new car. And all those 581 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: costs will greater insurance some states, more property taxes, different 582 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: things like that associated with a new car. But you know, 583 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: keep your car and if you take good care of 584 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: it and you maintain it properly, you're also saving money 585 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: on unnecessary repairs due to negligence. If you don't take 586 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: care of them a small problem early on, it can 587 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: turn into a bigger one. Just like your health you 588 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: want your your car care is just as important, you 589 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: know as your health care. You want regular dental stack ups, 590 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: physical The reason for that is they can detect um 591 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: small problems and take care of them before they become 592 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: big problems. The same thing with your car, save money, 593 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: spend less. Yeah, and for them you're just tuning in. 594 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: We're talking to Rich White. He is the executive director 595 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: of the Car Care Council. You know, rich people are 596 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna go away for the holidays, right, and they're gonna 597 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: take trips. Some people drive, some people fly. You know, 598 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: maybe driving sometimes driving is quicker, right by the time 599 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: you go to the airport, get through security and that 600 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: whole thing. It could be a day's event just to 601 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: fly to Grandma's house. And if it's within driving time. Um, 602 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: you know what are some of the other benefits you're 603 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna see driving versus flying taking the car instead. So 604 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite. Um, topics to talk about. 605 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: And I preached this all the time, and I think 606 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: it's a no breaker. Um, you can save a ton 607 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: of money, reduce a lot of stress and a lot 608 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: of hassle by by driving taking the car on the 609 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: on the vacation as opposed to you know, flying, And 610 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: regardless of whether they're super great prices for airline tickets, 611 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: the thing is, you can still save a ton of money. 612 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: So let's just take, for instance, a family of four, 613 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: maybe they're taking a one mile round trip. Um, well 614 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: that's probably by car less than one of the tickets 615 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: would cost. But here's some of the other things that 616 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: really I think, uh show the advantage of driving versus flying. 617 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: Here's just the few You can leave from where you 618 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: want when you want, and return when you want, pack 619 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: as much as you want. And I don't carry on 620 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: restrictions in your car. I don't think, UM eliminate all 621 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: those waiting and line and I took your car wearing 622 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: in line for the rental car security lines t s A. 623 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: You're probably not going to be delayed by whether that 624 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: that might be happening in between where you're flying from 625 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: and where you're flying too. There's no unpredictability, right, I 626 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: mean you can you come and go as you please, 627 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: and when you get to your destination, you got a 628 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: car to go with you. Yeah, it's all about control, 629 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: your control everything. You can take as much motion as 630 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: you want. You can pack your own meals and you know, 631 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: funny thing, you're not sitting next to some stranger, uh, 632 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: you know and fighting for elbow room. But I could 633 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: go on and on. You know, take your pets with you, 634 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: but the advantage is far awagh uh you know, flying um. 635 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: And you're gonna save a bunch of money and like 636 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: I said, there's gonna be a lot less stress involved. Hey, 637 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: rich in our in our last two minutes or so, 638 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: what are the three pas? Real quick? Yeah? So common 639 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: sense three piece Prepare, prevent and plan. So prepare makes 640 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: if you think your vehicle might need some repairs, you 641 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: want to do it on your own time, in your 642 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: own community, with a technician you trust, rather than being 643 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: at the mercy of some unforeseen breakdown on the road. 644 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: So prepare it's your car ready. Being prepared will help 645 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: you prevent the second P, prevent a breakdown on the 646 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: road and the harsh weather. So that's prepare and prevent 647 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: and then a check you know, you want to plan, 648 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: have a checklist before you go on some long distance, 649 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: playing your route and impact the carp uh appropriately and 650 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: you know that everybody can can help and making sure 651 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: there's there's some snacks and blankets and anatlas and jumper 652 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: cables and you know, cell phones, chars and the chargers 653 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: in the car, or you got a flashlight, and the 654 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: whole family can help um plan the trip. And it's 655 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: more fun. You're all together. You're all together in the 656 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: car and you're you're planning the whole process. And I 657 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: think it's good you teach the kids, Hey, this is 658 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: how we take a trip. This is what we do, 659 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: because what parents teach their kids to do today is 660 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: how kids are going to take care of not just 661 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: their cars. But you find that they're better prepared and 662 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: better planned out for events in the future outside the world. 663 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's you do one thing. I learned how 664 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: to take I don't how to do an awful lot 665 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: of things from just learning how to repair cars at 666 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: a very early age. And I think that's I think 667 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: that's part of this process too. Rich It all makes 668 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: it all makes sense, it all does it really does. Hey, Rich, 669 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: real quick, we're gonna listeners, go get more information. We 670 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: have a website it's car care dot org and basically 671 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna find just about any kind of information, tips, 672 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: advice on your maintaining your vehicle, all kinds of information. 673 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: Free car care guide to order. A free car care 674 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: guide might make a good stocking stuffer, so cardcare dot org. 675 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: Uh there for you're listening public cool, Hey Rich, we 676 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time, and we'll catch again. Maybe 677 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk again come the summer driving where that we 678 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: can talk a little bit about some summer driving carcare. 679 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: And you're very welcome, sir. You take good care, and 680 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: the car doctor we'll be back right after this. Hey, 681 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: welcome back any of the car doctor real quick before 682 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the end of the hour. This this week, I saw 683 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: this in Auto Service Professional. It's one of the trade 684 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: journals I read on a regular basis. And this this 685 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: is it's titled fuel according to GM General Motors. Apparently, 686 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: General Motors does not endorse support, or acknowledge or reading 687 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: the article the need for fuel injector cleaning as a 688 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: preventative maintenance procedure. According to GM, fuel injection cleaning is 689 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: approved only when performed as directed by a published GM 690 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: drive Ability or DTC Diagnostic, Trouble Code Diagnostic Service procedure. However, 691 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: by the same token, GM says that due to variations 692 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: and fuel quality, tank editive isn't a bad idea. GM 693 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: Giant mistakes. Get it right, guys. Hey, until the next 694 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: time I'm running any of the car doctor reminding you 695 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: the mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. To see you