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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. What's up everybody. I'm Ben, I'm Ashley,

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Speaker 1: and we have a spectacular podcast for today after a

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Speaker 1: very dramatic week of Bachelor in Paradise and one of

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Speaker 1: the lead front one the most Desirable Woman in Paradise.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Kristen is on the line. Kristeny out there,

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Speaker 1: I am out here, Ben, Helloi, how you doing scalp fingers?

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Speaker 1: I know, right? Oh my goodness, gracious, I know. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, girl, I'm trying to make my transition right

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Speaker 1: now from scalop fingers into something like a little sexier,

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Speaker 1: maybe like scallop girl, or personally this week I heard

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Speaker 1: scallet fingers so many times. I actually don't Maybe you

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Speaker 1: could explain it to me, Christen. I don't get the

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Speaker 1: intrigue of it, or even the humor behind it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of funny that at one point you ate scalps,

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Speaker 1: but everybody scalop right right. No, my thoughts exactly. I

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Speaker 1: think you probably saw that last week. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I felt like I was asley

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Speaker 1: on her podcast. Thank you, thank you for that shout out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah girl, what is it understand? Okay, I have a theory. Um, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not big on following I guess social etiquette or

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Speaker 1: like social norms. I kind of just beat to my

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Speaker 1: own drum. So I think that was maybe funny. But

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Speaker 1: I also my stronger theory is that everyone was really

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Speaker 1: really hot. Granted we were recording like a little later

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Speaker 1: into the summer than they normally do, and so everyone

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Speaker 1: was really hot and getting kind of bored and so crazy.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I came up with the term scal fingers.

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Speaker 1: And we all know how they came up with the term,

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Speaker 1: which is like you ate leftovers in the back of

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Speaker 1: our neuver or something. Um, can I tell you how

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Speaker 1: many times I have eaten leftovers in the car in

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Speaker 1: or inappropriate places. My sister always gets mad at me

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Speaker 1: for this, and I think this is just what happened

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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, this is exactly what happened. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the whole like I'm gonna do me. I'm

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Speaker 1: not really worried about. I mean, I guess I kind

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Speaker 1: of get it now. Anytime you eat shellfish that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit older in the back of a car, it

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Speaker 1: can't be the most advertising experience for the people around you.

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Speaker 1: So with that, Kristen, you're in the wrong for eating

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Speaker 1: shellfish that was a little bit older in the back

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Speaker 1: of car. But other than that, you know what, let's

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Speaker 1: put scalt fingers behind us. I don't ask. I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe I should like issue a public apology, though it

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Speaker 1: would be like a personal the plane. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: had the person on the plane that sits next to

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Speaker 1: you and decides to get like Chinese or me at

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Speaker 1: the airport and then that is me. I get tuna

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Speaker 1: sandwiches every time. Yeah. I just tweeted that well yesterday

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Speaker 1: because he was like, oh my gosh, I'm eating my

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Speaker 1: hogi on the plane, and I'm like, I just off

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Speaker 1: my plane and I took my Asian food and pulled

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Speaker 1: it out and I got some side eyes. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course you did. So that that is just rude.

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Speaker 1: It's not okay for anybody you have food emvy well, no,

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Speaker 1: because you smell it you're in a close quarters. But okay,

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Speaker 1: so you get the words the name scallet fingers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like after watching this back now scallet

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Speaker 1: to you? Was it funny. Did you feel bullied? How

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Speaker 1: how did you feel about watching this bag? Yeah? Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: well when I watched my episode, So I didn't watched

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Speaker 1: watched a cree cut the week before, and it was

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Speaker 1: I could kind of feel it like when you walk

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, wow, everyone was just talking about me,

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Speaker 1: and I get that, Yeah, I don't belong. I'm coming

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Speaker 1: America all this language to use against me, like I

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Speaker 1: probably need to lead on my social media. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, well, you know, watching it from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: I thought you you weren't necessarily bullied. I just don't

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Speaker 1: ask at Actually, you've been a part of Paradise a

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Speaker 1: idea that when you walk into Para I you don't

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Speaker 1: always feel like you belong or did you always feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm jumping righting into this, I'm accepted and I'm wanted here.

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Speaker 1: I always felt accepted because I got further in the process,

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Speaker 1: so I made deeper friendships I think. But that was

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Speaker 1: my question for you, Kristen. Yeah, is because you were

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Speaker 1: about because of that? Yeah, definitely, So I think that

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Speaker 1: like an easier Um. I'm not trying to say target,

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Speaker 1: but for that reason, I was, you know, I went home.

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Speaker 1: When did I go home? I went home the last

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Speaker 1: day we were in the mansion. So for that reason,

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Speaker 1: they were like stronger friendships that had formed. And also

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Speaker 1: I was walking into a group that was all original cats,

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Speaker 1: So while they all had been there going through everything,

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Speaker 1: I think, Um, and you know, I have to I

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Speaker 1: want to say this, Like when Alexis told the story,

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Speaker 1: to the extent that it was. So she told me,

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Speaker 1: She's like, I did not mean it in a mean

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it didn't seem like when Alexis told us

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Speaker 1: just it was kind of funny. You know, we'll share

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Speaker 1: a story. It's what I know about this person. I

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Speaker 1: get it happened all the time. But there was one

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Speaker 1: person in Bachelor in Paradise said I felt kind of

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Speaker 1: cross the line with you. One person that kind of

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Speaker 1: the podcast before, and that's Jasmine. Um. Two questions for you. One,

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Speaker 1: the reverse that what's your relationship with with like, what's

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Speaker 1: your relationship like with her? Now? Yeah? Um, good questions.

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Speaker 1: So the situation, I don't want to use the term bully.

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Speaker 1: I tried talking to her multiple times in Paradise, and

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Speaker 1: everything else. And then whenever the episodes were coming around

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Speaker 1: and I was about to come onto the show, she

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Speaker 1: just to make sure she knew like I never wanted

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Speaker 1: to hurt and betray you in my decision. Like that's

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Speaker 1: a very hard situation to come in with the date

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Speaker 1: having to choose a guy to take on a date. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, you're you're really just going out of

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Speaker 1: you didn't say enough mean things on the show, Like

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Speaker 1: So I would say, like, I don't want to use

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Speaker 1: the trim bully. I just want to say like, um,

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Speaker 1: It says something. But even after this whole thing goes

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Speaker 1: Does I don't think it's right. I don't. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think especially people within the franchise, I don't

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Speaker 1: much from the everybodeo. Yeah, you need you need your click,

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Speaker 1: you need your your your friends around you, even if

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Speaker 1: that's what I really want. I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: I want you talk about the virgin shaming that Jasmine

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Speaker 1: a date with her? Like? What fun is a virgin?

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Speaker 1: So I think that I am, like, I'm very confident

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's just as bad as flush shaming. That's horrible,

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Speaker 1: with you like they had you announced that to everyone? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: how Will Boom ruined your entire experience on Rachel season?

424
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: Did they say something like that, Yeah, every individual person

425
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: was like, why do you hate Lucas so much? I'm like, yay,

426
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: let me talk about it individually to every person again. Great. Cool.

427
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: So you're like, you're telling me that you never once

428
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: brought this up on your own He never wants talked

429
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: about Lucas just on your own accord, never unless it

430
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: was like it was never unprompted. Everybody would ask like,

431
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: why don't you like Lucas? And I'm like, well, it's

432
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: kind of hard to summarize. There's it's a complicated history.

433
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: Did you guys have like some setup plan because people

434
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: have conserious conspiracy theories about you and him, saying that

435
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: you guys knew each other you were on another show together.

436
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: Did you plan on having this big blowout once you're

437
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: both cast it on the Bachelorette? Uh No, I was not.

438
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: The fight was not planned. That was me really angry

439
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: in the moment. Okay, I think we should give everyone

440
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: a bit of a refresher on who Blake is and

441
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: what we're talking about with this fight with wa Boom.

442
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: So weeks ago, Ashley and Ben did a dramatic recreation

443
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: of your fight, and I think we'd like for you

444
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: to hear it. Oh, I heard it. Let's let's let

445
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: everyone here it again. Why am I here? You're here

446
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: to be on blank TV? And why is that because

447
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: you want to be a comedian. You're a washed up joke.

448
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: I can't help but feel that you weren't here and

449
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: I would have to be a real shot at and

450
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: I would have a real shot at getting too Rachel.

451
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: But because you were big, is he being what booming

452
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: and making a joke out of this experience. I'm gonna

453
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: go home. You win. Lucas, whoa boom. The thing is,

454
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: it's like not about winning. It's about the world. Brother,

455
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: It's about the world, and you have no idea what

456
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: the world needs. I have. By the time, this is

457
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: my favorite part. You're the wao boom clown and I'm

458
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: the nice gentleman. You know. Go back to your protein shakes,

459
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: go back to your steroids. I'm just gonna let you

460
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: speak for yourself. I know what funny is walka boom

461
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: pie in your face, walka walker fart joke. If someone said,

462
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: how would you summarize Lucas in one word? And I

463
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: feel like this is a compliment to Lucas, I would say,

464
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: whoa boom? Okay, let's stop here. So this is what

465
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: we got, alright, alright trying Did you know you're creating

466
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: the finest television when you did that? I did not

467
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: know that. By the way, kudos to Ben. That was

468
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: probably the best wah boom of all the wo I mean, okay, Bake.

469
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there. I need to know,

470
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: like at that point in time, were you jabbing at Lucas?

471
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: Were you complimenting him? I'm still confused on that argument

472
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: that the argument does make no sense to me. Basically,

473
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: we get into an argument and I kind of did

474
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: like a mic drop, and they're like no, like keep going.

475
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: So the fight continued and it escalated, and I was

476
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: trying to mock him, and I was basically saying that,

477
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: like like Lucas's style of humor is like pull my

478
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: finger will be cushioned, pie in the face, like like

479
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: you're like a You're like the guy that blows up

480
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: the balloons at the kid's birthday party. Yeah, can you

481
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your experience with him

482
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: on the other reality show? What was it called? How

483
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: did you Guys get along? There? I would be ecstatic

484
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: to give context for this. My huge hatred of this.

485
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: Have you been able to air this and vent it? Really? Oh? Well,

486
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: this is your opportunity speak to bouchelor nation. Well, long

487
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: story short, Lucas and I were on a previous reality show,

488
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: and on that show, couples were had to go to

489
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: a couple's therapy and they were given a chance to

490
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: try and reconnect or get over each other. And halfway

491
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: through the show they brought in five single guys girls.

492
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: It was called Exile on on What Network? On TV? Yes,

493
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: So the show was about five pairs of excess. I

494
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: got paid as a fitness model to go halfway through.

495
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: I got I got three grand to go to Dominican

496
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: for seven days. They were like, are you single? Are

497
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: you open to being in a relationship? I was like, yeah, confused,

498
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: you guys are single, but you're in relationships. No. No,

499
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: The five pairs of couples were in a relationship or

500
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: breaking up or getting back together whatever. They brought five

501
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: single guys five single girls halfway through to help them

502
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: make a connection if they wanted to meet new people.

503
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: So Lucas and I have shared a love interest. Yes.

504
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: So the reason why I'm so frustrated with Lucas is

505
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: that on that show at the end, the couples can

506
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: leave by themselves together or with someone knew they made

507
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: a connection with um. But on that show at the end,

508
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: he and our similar love and just his quote unquote

509
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend chose to leave together. So basically he had

510
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: to break up with the girl he was saying, and

511
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: she had to quote unquote breakup with me. Well, the

512
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: reason why I'm upset and we're talking, we talked about

513
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: right reasons is because Lucas chose to go home with

514
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: her but he kept screwing the girl that he saw

515
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: on the show in the real world. The girl that

516
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: chose to go home with Lucas actually had a boyfriend

517
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: in real life, and she told him from the start

518
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: she would pick Lucas. She's not even though she kissed

519
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: me and we had a connection. So they were both

520
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: fake and I was real. But luckily that show made

521
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: me look good. I get on this show, they tell

522
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: me that Lucas isn't there. They said they didn't know

523
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: that he was on another show, and I go, okay, great,

524
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: I've got three options here. The second I saw Lucas,

525
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I can pretend like I don't know him,

526
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: and then I'm a fake. I can be friends with him.

527
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to be friends with the wa Boom guy,

528
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: or I have to try and distance myself from this.

529
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: But I already knew that I was set up to fail,

530
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: because they're gonna say you both were on a real

531
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: you both are here for the wrong reason. So I

532
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: was set up to fail from the start. My frustration

533
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: now isn't with Lucas, it's with the situation. Well, I mean,

534
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: like we've talked about this in the podcast before and

535
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: I get where your frustration come from. But I and

536
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: you might have a different experience than I do. But

537
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: I've never felt like the show has misedited something. I mean, yes,

538
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: it cuts out stuff, but the overall storyline always seems

539
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: to play out exactly how it happened when I was there.

540
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: I disagree with him on this topic, on me or

541
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: on Ben. Thank you, Yeah, you're welcome. There's a there's

542
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot missing from storylines. Can I just say backstory

543
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: that I When producers asked me who I was most

544
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: excited to see in Paradise, I said, I hope Ashley

545
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: I is there. Thank you. That's not happening this year.

546
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: They said why. I was like, well, I think she's

547
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but I have a I'm really good

548
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: with crazy, so I think I could handle her. And

549
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we'll keep good crazy. But you know

550
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: what it's like to get kind of a you know,

551
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: not fair. I'm sure you don't cry all the time

552
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: every day, but I did cry every day, Like that's

553
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: highly accurate. But there are some other things that I

554
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: think we're mess with along the way. So they just,

555
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, they were moving on. What is the E

556
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: stand for? In your name, Like, why is it blake

557
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: E like Chuck E. Well, um, nice, my full name

558
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: is William Blake Ellerby. But Ellerby is the There was

559
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: a blake k on the show, so I was Blake

560
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: that is why. So you have entered into the Ashley

561
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: I syndromes. You're constantly going to be a blake E

562
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: from now on. I like my initial Now he did

563
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: not love it. Um, so should we talk about paradise?

564
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: You were talking about paradise. Did you like the fact

565
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: that you had to swap spit with basically two other

566
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: guys as you just kissed Kristen back to back to back.

567
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: So before my date, I was told that nobody had

568
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: kissed Kristen and if I did, I would come out

569
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: in front. And I kissed her at sunset over the

570
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: water on the date and they didn't show that. Oh

571
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: that was the second case we saw. I was like,

572
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: what the come on? Like, oh my gosh, I mean

573
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: walk a walk up. Um, hey, I'm looking at your

574
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out your last name because

575
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I had no clue what it was, and so I

576
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: looked up your your Instagram Blake and there's a girl

577
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: topless kissing you on your Instagram? Who is that woman?

578
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: And was she around for Paradise? No, that's uh, that's

579
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend. And why did you post it on

580
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: your Instagram? Then when was that? What's the date of

581
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: the post? It's like just last week or earlier this week?

582
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: Shut up? Well, Paradise makes me look like, you know,

583
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: a loser that can't get a date. And I just

584
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: was trying to show people that Paradise paradise romance wise

585
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: and got crap on me. I have got to check

586
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: out this girl. Wait, Blake, are you telling me that

587
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: you're trying to overcompensate by posting a picture? Okay? Oh man, Um, yeah,

588
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: you're honest. Instagram Blake, you need to help me out

589
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: here because Instagram is always confused me. I talked to

590
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Chase about this and it could just be that I

591
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: just am not um ripped enough to do this. But

592
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of shirtless pictures and a lot

593
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: of underwear picks on here. Um, can you please explain

594
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: to me the reasoning and the mentality behind posting this stuff. Well,

595
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm a personal trainer, I major to nutrition. I'm a

596
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: certified strength and conditioning specialists I'm a fitness model and

597
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of my world, so it kind of shows

598
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: what I do. I mean, if somebody wants to get

599
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: shredded or diet, you need to show them that you've

600
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: been there first. So I'm just showing what I do perfect. Yeah,

601
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean Chase Chase said something similar, so I I

602
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: just have no clue about that stuff. I look at

603
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Instagram half the time, and um, people's lives seem a

604
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: lot more exciting than mine, and so I just trying

605
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: to catch up and take cool pictures when I can,

606
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: and maybe next time I'll do one shirtless. I think

607
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you're pretty cool. Thanks, um Blake. Last question, are you

608
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: happy to Paradise? Uh? No, because I got scalloped. How

609
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: long were you there for? I was there for well,

610
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: the hotel like three and a half days, but I

611
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: was literally in Paradise for twenty hours straight. Got up

612
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: at six, back at the hotel at eight. That was

613
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: all filmed the same day. That hurts the heart. I mean,

614
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I guess this is okay. So aside you would actually

615
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: believe that things aren't headed correctly, I would I would say, okay,

616
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: I'd fall someplace in the middle of then, Um there

617
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: are storylines that don't play out completely accurately to how

618
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: it's shown, but for the most part, the story is

619
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: told to what I imagine actually happened. So when we

620
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: watched last night's episode, it looked like you had a

621
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: hard time finding a date. Was that the true scenario?

622
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Or explained to the audience exactly what was going on?

623
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: Do these women really want to go on day two d?

624
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Were they already taken? What was happening there that, in

625
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: your opinion, was shown incorrectly? Uh? Yeah, I'll tell you

626
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Um, I get there. Christina was my

627
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: first choice, and she seemed kind of hesitant to go

628
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: out with me, but I wanted to kind of show

629
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: her that I wasn't that same guy she saw on

630
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: the show. And when she started a warm up to me,

631
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: I said, okay, well when I come back, if I

632
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: were to ask you, would you say yes? And she

633
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: said yes. So after I talked to like four girls

634
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: and I came back and I asked her first she

635
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Speaker 1: said no. I was like, you're throwing me onto the bus,

636
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Speaker 1: but more are you doing? And when I spoke to Danielle,

637
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I spoke to Danielle second I could tell, like there's

638
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: no chemistry there, but they said, hey, ask her, like,

639
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Speaker 1: if you were to ask her, she'd say yes. And

640
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that, but I did, and

641
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: of course she said no. So they're getting the footage

642
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Speaker 1: they need of me getting shot down and uh, Raven

643
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: was like hungover on the ground. They're like, go talk

644
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Speaker 1: to Raven and I think I spoke to I forgot

645
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: who else. I spoke to Jasmine, But everybody really pushed

646
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: for Kristen, and Kristen wasn't really on my radar. But

647
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Speaker 1: I do only have nice things to say about Kristin.

648
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: She was actually really sweet on the date and you

649
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: guys don't see me, but I I took care of her.

650
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: On the date, her contacts were coming out. I made

651
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Speaker 1: the boat driver stop and give her his sunglasses so

652
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: her contacts wouldn't come out because she was gonna be

653
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Speaker 1: legally blind if she lost her contact. So I had

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Speaker 1: to go get her like um water bottle caps to

655
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Speaker 1: put contacts in, and we got her some solution and

656
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: dramamine and we got her feeling better. Vory is not

657
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: dead and Blanky is the perfect example of it. Blake Hey,

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Speaker 1: we find out a little bit about you. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming in. Thanks for waiting. We know it took

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Speaker 1: a while today, but hey, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: be able to see anything, especially paradise. But you look

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Speaker 1: sexy and your glasses, Ben, Come on, I did think

694
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: get a pair of glasses. I'm I'm getting old, Ashley.

695
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I need to have some readers on me, all right. Actually,

696
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: it's time for us to talk a little bit. Are

697
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: you ready to talk? I just want to talk to

698
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: you right now. But I'm kind of glad there's the

699
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: two of us. Yeah, we haven't got to do this

700
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: yet today and I've been missing you. Um, all right,

701
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: here's a couple of topics. We're gonna keep the topics

702
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: just the three of them, the three main topics of

703
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the episode. But we're gonna start with a tweet that

704
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: I got yesterday that to me, um, it's sad. Okay,

705
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: I have the tweet read something like this. I don't

706
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: have in front of me. I wish I did, but

707
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: it said something like this, Dear Ben, I am going

708
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: to stop watching The Bachelor because it feels like it's

709
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: turned into a boy making fun of and shame fast

710
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: and that's sad to me because that's not what this

711
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: show should be. It's not what this show used to be.

712
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: But after watching last night's Bachelor in Paradise, I want

713
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: to know if you can kind of understand where she's

714
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: coming from, because I can. Um, it seems like to me,

715
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, that she's referring

716
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: to the twins and their antics, which sucks because we're

717
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: both friends of the Twins and I know that they

718
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: felt really awkward when they went into Paradise. There wasn't

719
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: any guys left there the last ones there, Dean denied

720
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: Emily's day, and I knew that she was really looking

721
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: forward to asking him out. And they've also apologized on

722
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: Twitter a zillion times this week. They've just been like,

723
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: this was not us. We completely lost it. And I

724
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: have completely lost on the show too. I've said horrible

725
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: things about people because in the moment, you think it's

726
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: funny and it is not funny. Um, So I understand

727
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: and get carried away when you're in that environment and

728
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: you are frustrated and upset and feel left out. Yeah,

729
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna see you know, I do.

730
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: I knew, I do know. The twins last night watching

731
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: it was surprising me. I don't think any of us

732
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: would say that their actions and their words were um

733
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: kind or appropriate. But twins aside. Now because they have apologized,

734
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: we'll both accept that apology. It sounds like I will.

735
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like you as well, um, kind of. I

736
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: want to understand the mentality though, to how you lose yourself.

737
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: You just said something at the end of that last

738
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: statement that I think it might ring true. You feel

739
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: alone and you feel like an outsider, and so as

740
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: a result, what you react is that what happens. I think.

741
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: I think, to be quite frank, we all make fun

742
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: of people when we're at home with our friends, right, Like,

743
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: we all talk smack about other people, especially if we

744
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: don't like them. I mean, if we had cameras following

745
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: us around at all times, we'd be caught saying the

746
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: ugliest things. It's just human nature. So I think that

747
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: when you get into that interview room, you think you're

748
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: just talking to your friend, and you don't think about

749
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: what it's going to look like two months down the

750
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: road when it's aired. Yeah, that's that's a great point. Yeah,

751
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: you kind of lose yourself and you become so comfortable

752
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: in the interview room that you have no clue, um,

753
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like months later. But that brings

754
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: up a good point. Any of these people then need

755
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: to they are held to a standard, right, they have

756
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: a responsibility, um, And so you have to watch yourself

757
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: as you speak about people, because you know it's going

758
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: to come back. I mean at a small example, we

759
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: look at Uh, we talked to Kristen earlier and she's

760
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: talking about her scalt fingers. Right, it's kind of funny,

761
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: it's humorous, but it dragged on and on and on

762
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: and on, and I can imagine what that nickname did

763
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: was kind of take away some of the guy's interest

764
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: in her because that's all they could think about. And

765
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: that's unfair to Christen at that point. And did you

766
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: have a moment when you were on either season that

767
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: you said or did something you regret? Yeah? I mean

768
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, regret is is an interesting

769
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: word for me. I've had to apologize to people's uh individually,

770
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: and I've also had to um kind of tuck my

771
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: table to my legs at times. Yeah. I've definitely done

772
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: things um in my time on on The Bachelor and

773
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: Bachelorret that I guess I look back on which I

774
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: would have done it differently. Yeah, yeah, I mean I

775
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: think that the most popular one, right is telling two

776
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: women at the end of The Bachelor's that I love them.

777
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean not that I didn't have strong feelings for

778
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: them both, but it was an inappropriate use thing to

779
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: say at a time that was critical in my relationship

780
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: with my future fiance. I think that was um, irresponsible

781
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: for me. I think it was unwise. I wish I

782
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: would have just held those emotions and to save them

783
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: for that last moment, but I didn't and and as

784
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: a result, I had to apologize or explain myself um

785
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: throughout that. So, I mean, I think that would be

786
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: my my big when when I think about something that

787
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: happened that really affected somebody else deeply, that would be it.

788
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: And and that's what I said. I mean, that's why

789
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I'll I'll forgive the twins in a second. I mean,

790
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: what they said totally uncalled for, not cool, but hey,

791
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: you said it. It happens. Um in a sense, it's

792
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: locker room talk. You have to move on. So we

793
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: we've all been there. But I'm the thing I'm interested

794
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: in is there's so much weight to each word everybody says,

795
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: um there in when you're being filmed, and I think

796
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: we all have a responsibility to participate in the show,

797
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: to hold ourselves to above approach. Um. There's also times

798
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: where you say things because you think they're going to

799
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: sound funny, but then they're not funny. Yeah, that you're

800
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: exactly right. I mean, I think last night's episode, though,

801
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: to me, it felt heavy. I mean, even though there

802
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: was a lot of um predictability to it, it it felt

803
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: heavy because I thought there was a lot of people

804
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: getting their feelings hurt. And one of the person that

805
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: was getting their feelings hurt was Christina. And she was

806
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: getting a hurt by one of our good friends, Dean,

807
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: who we just spent the week with, who who I

808
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: really enjoy spending my time with, and I've got to

809
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: know him now better than I did a couple of

810
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago when we were just talking on the podcast.

811
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: I love Dean. I think he's a good guy. I

812
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: think he's young, and I think he's figuring himself out,

813
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: which we all are um. But he hurt Christina deeply

814
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: last night we saw it and and my react action

815
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: was that Christina cared and actually, please disagree with me here,

816
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: but this is my take. Christina cared too much for

817
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Dean in this environment. I think she was ready to

818
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: spend what she believed is the rest of her life

819
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: with Dean, and he was just like at a glance, saying, hey,

820
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: I think you're cool. I think they're on completely two

821
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: different wavelengths when it came to where their heart was at.

822
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. But you can't really predict how you're

823
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: going to feel there. What does that mean? I mean?

824
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: I went into Paradise one, my Paradise one, and I

825
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna like anyone, Like the producers

826
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: are going to, like if they want me to stick around,

827
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: they're going to have to force me to like someone.

828
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: And then immediately, like right off the bat, I was

829
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: just like, fell so hard for Jared. I never thought

830
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: I'd even like like someone, let alone like borderline love.

831
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: That's I mean, good pointment. And how quickly that happened

832
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: for you? Actually that happened at first sight, To be honest,

833
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: it was like really weird. It was probably the closest

834
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: of our ad to love it for a sight. Yeah,

835
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, and there was something there. You you still

836
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: have a relationship the Jar today, so there was obviously

837
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: something to back those feelings. And I feel like Dean

838
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: and Christina aren't done yet. Just by my sense of

839
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: watching this show, there was too many, too many open

840
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: ended issues that they didn't get closure on. I wouldn't

841
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: be surprised if we hear about Dean and Christina again

842
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: one day. What do you think I agree with you?

843
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm I loved this. Please don't think

844
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: any differently of of well, I guess being made his

845
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: mistakes so you can think pretty differently of him right now.

846
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: But we I love being I respecting. I think he's

847
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: a good guy. He's making terrible decisions on Paradise that

848
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: I think he's learned from, and if you talked to

849
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: him today, he would apologize for. But I think Christina's

850
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: reaction was was I enjoyed it because I thought it

851
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: was real, it was authentic, it was raw, and she

852
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: was going crazy because she watched a man I don't

853
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: want to put words in her mouth that she loved

854
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: or really liked or had deep feelings for, make out

855
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: with another woman right in front of her, and it

856
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: was tearing her up inside. It is not normal. I

857
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: know we've talked about this in the podcast the past

858
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but it is not normal to have

859
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: to watch the guy that you love make out with

860
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: somebody in front of your face. Correct, So why did

861
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: she not leave? Then? She stuck around and kept trying

862
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: to date him, and that was my Okay, we're talking

863
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: about back on the beds where like early in Monday's episode,

864
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: Early in Monday's episode, I did want her to leave then,

865
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: and then he probably would have been like, oh my god,

866
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: I lost her no, I have to get her that

867
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: hard to get chase things. And then Raven excellent point.

868
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: I hated it it, you loved it. I hated it

869
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: because this is what girls do. And Ben, you can

870
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: explain this. Girls don't listen. They live in La la land.

871
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: I know that's what Christina was doing. And Raven was

872
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: telling her the truth. I mean, then Raven's telling her

873
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: the truth, and she did exactly what girls do. Instead

874
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: of going, you're right, by Dean, she yelled at Raven.

875
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. But you h it was so annoying.

876
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: I was so annoyed because, yeah, Raven is speaking what

877
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: Christina even knows is the truth. But it's not the

878
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: time for her friend, Raven, who's in this happy relationship

879
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: and who's at zero bumps along this paradise road, to

880
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, you know, I'm going to preach

881
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: to her about this and like hopefully she gets it.

882
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: I am not a lover of tough love. If you

883
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: throw tough love at me, I'm probably gonna retaliate more

884
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: and be like nope, not over. I'm gonna get him

885
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: like I'm going to try to enjoy making mistakes. I

886
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: know I will I will because Raven was telling her

887
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: the truth and Christina. Christina played it wrong from the start.

888
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Girls need to go by Dean, but I just you know,

889
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: we know we do. It's just something that like in

890
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: our weird Psyche tells us not to do. The kick

891
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: ass girls of this world are the ones that can leave,

892
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: and they're the ones that probably win. I want to

893
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: ask Ben, Ben, if you were Dean okay and you

894
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: like them both, which obviously he did, and Christina bails

895
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: you when you have wanted her, but you would have

896
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: wanted her more? Um, But actually saying do I want

897
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: her more? You would have wanted her more if she

898
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: left early on in Monday's episode or even last week,

899
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: then you would have been like, hey, I'm going to

900
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: go after this one. Um. I can't say that, honestly.

901
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: I think if I put myself in the Dean shoes,

902
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: or if I was there in Dean's position and had

903
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: two wonderful women in front of me that I was

904
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: confused about, I can see where he's coming from. I

905
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: just think he handled it incorrectly. Um, I would have

906
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: been I would have felt terrible if she would have

907
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: got up and left you. I don't know if I

908
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: would have wanted her more romantically, because I think that

909
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: would have been almost felt like manipulation, like Hey, I'm

910
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna get up and walk away, so he chases me.

911
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: But I think I would have felt so sad and

912
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: so like that I had hurt somebody. I could see

913
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: it in Dean's eyes as Christina was sitting there explaining

914
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: herself with tears in her own eyes, and he just

915
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: didn't have the words at all, which he hasn't exactly

916
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: had the words through this whole season to explain himself.

917
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ben, I want to talk to you

918
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: about something, Okay. So on Monday night, Dean posted a

919
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: picture of the cutest, cutest picture of he and Christina

920
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: in Kentucky during the week of their break, and the

921
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: caption said, you're out of my league okay, and oh

922
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: my god, did I get all mushy? And you know,

923
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: I was so touched, And then Jared goes, that's such

924
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: b S because whenever I say that you're out of

925
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: my league, you tell me that that's b S. And

926
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I go, that's because that statement is BS. I need

927
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on this statement. You're out of

928
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: my league is no My dad always told me that

929
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: if if somebody says there that you are out of

930
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: their league, just means just yes, I do. It just

931
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: means that they don't actually like you. It means that

932
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: they don't like you and they're trying to let you

933
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: down easily. No person is ever going to be like,

934
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: oh you know what this person she they're too good

935
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: for me. I'm going to find someone a little bit

936
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: more mediocre to match me. Like, it's not gonna happen.

937
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: Which if you had said that to some girl, yes, Ben,

938
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: do you think that that? And it is always a lie,

939
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: Yes it is. You're not gonna say, oh, you know what,

940
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: this girl is too good for me. I should have

941
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: just said no comment here, because you used the line

942
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: before to let girls down gently. You just said you

943
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: got mushy. I did, And then Jared said that's a

944
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: b s because whenever I used the line, you don't

945
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: believe it. And then I was like, you know what

946
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: this is b So now you think these posts bs um.

947
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: I think this is the appropriate term. I think this

948
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: is a better term. I don't deserve you, okay, I

949
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: mean I get that. Yeah, I think they're there is

950
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: a time and place in every relationship where you should

951
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: feel like the other person is too good for you,

952
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: you want to be with somebody who's too good for you.

953
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: You would never turn someone down who's too good for you,

954
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: so you want to You want to be in a

955
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: relationship that you feel like that your partner is too

956
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: good for you. But the reverse of that is you

957
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: also and I think this is um and an important

958
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: um topic that we could go into more, but you

959
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: also want at some level to feel like your partner

960
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: believes that you're too good for them, because I think

961
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: that bounces out where both parties are going wow, like

962
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: I am so lucky because I feel I feel so

963
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: special and that my partner believes I'm so special and

964
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: that they love me so much that they're almost confused

965
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: at the person I am right, Like I've been in

966
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: relationships before where somebody's looked at me and said you're

967
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: too good for me, and I've said that's not true.

968
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I know it's not true, but there's a level there

969
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: where I feel the same about about her, and it

970
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: works because both parties just feel so special to be

971
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: with each other. That's that's why I like the phrase

972
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't deserve you because I think if you use

973
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: the words I don't deserve you, that could allude to like,

974
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: you care about me too much and I can't catch

975
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: up to your feelings and I like that too. Maybe

976
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: that maybe, uh, you should text Dean and see feel

977
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: change the caption, cause I think that's what he's trying

978
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: to say. I'm not I know the love that the

979
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: loving place that Dean came up with that quote, Like,

980
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like crap on his caption because

981
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: I think I know exactly what he means by that

982
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: you don't really really love. I think he loves Christina.

983
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: I think he truly cares about her. He just is

984
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: having a very hard time navigating a very unnatural environment. Yeah,

985
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: and that brings me then to this question. You know,

986
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: we saw something this week that we don't see often.

987
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: We see about the final two or three weeks of

988
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: The Bachelor and the Bachelor at but we saw in

989
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: Paradise and I think you felt very similar to this.

990
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: We saw true heartbreak. I think it would be hard

991
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: for for anybody to argue that Christina was not heartbroken

992
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: for for a couple of days here at Paradise. And

993
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: as hard as that is, to watch. We have to think,

994
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: I guess Christina for putting herself out there in front

995
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: of all of us so that we get to watch

996
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: her journey to find love. And that's what this whole

997
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: franchise about. Right. It comes back to the first question

998
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: we asked batually that that's that's from Paradise almost feels

999
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: like a bully fest right now. It's not right, it's

1000
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: not fair, it's not what we want to watch. What

1001
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: we want to watch is people trying to are people

1002
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: trying to find love, and Christina was going at it.

1003
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: We want to watch people and then feel comforted by

1004
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: the fact that they are going through on TV. But

1005
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: we go through in our daily lives and we don't

1006
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: go through this just making fun of party fest. What

1007
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: we do go through is like heartbreak and love, and

1008
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: that's what people go and watch The Bachelor and The

1009
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: bachel work for. Yeah, let's get back to it, right,

1010
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean that, let's let's get back to people attempting

1011
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: to find love and not as much of put each

1012
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: other down. And and and we've lived in this world awhile,

1013
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: Actually I think the two of us want to lift

1014
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: each other up, hopefully, know you lift me up? All

1015
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: the time you said my glass they're sexy. I mean,

1016
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk out of here a little more confidently.

1017
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: The text that you send me throughout the week just

1018
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: randomly like make my heart burst. So yeah, I mean,

1019
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: that's it is. We want to lift each other up

1020
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: and we can make fun of each other. I can

1021
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: make fun of Blake for taking pictures of the shirt off.

1022
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: I think that's weird. I'll never get it, and I'll

1023
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: never tell him that I get it. I think that's

1024
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: just absolutely for a thousand reasons odd. But you know what,

1025
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't want to

1026
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: see Blake hurt, even if I think his Instagram is

1027
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: weird or I think his fingers smell funny like scallops.

1028
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him hurt deep down. And

1029
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: I hope this show is not hurting people um to

1030
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: their core. That's that would be terrible. UM. And last

1031
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: night I thought we walked a very thin line into that.

1032
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: I want to just bridge on one topic before we

1033
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: move on. And I am posted on Instagram with Dean

1034
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: yesterday and it was like the weirdest thing because I

1035
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: got so much hate on on my comments section about Dean,

1036
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: and the caption just said, like, everybody makes mistakes, everybody

1037
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: has those days, right, because that's a hand of Montana quote.

1038
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: But I knew that he made some bad moves in Paradise,

1039
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: but there are a few people that can make me

1040
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: smile and laugh like he does. He's one of the

1041
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: warmest people I've ever met. And people are like, I

1042
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: cannot believe you're condoning his behavior. I'm like, am I

1043
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: condoning his behavior? No? He like, he admits that he

1044
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: made the mistakes, but like you guys can't like villainize

1045
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: him as a bad person because of what he's done

1046
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: in Paradise. Um. Also, I can't stand this expression f boy,

1047
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: like there's no po there's no point. And I want

1048
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: to know your definition of when F boy is because

1049
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: this term has just been everywhere on social media regarding

1050
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Dean and I'm tired of it. But I'm tired of

1051
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: it because I think when I think F boy, I

1052
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: think a player that hooks up with different girls with

1053
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 1: zero guilt, zero guilt attached. And I do not think

1054
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: that that is Dean. In You've answer the question perfectly,

1055
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, it is like when when I think a

1056
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: F boy. I don't know if I know many I've

1057
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: had friends in college that have kind of been like this,

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Speaker 1: that's the people we want to stay away from. So

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Speaker 1: that would be my destinition. Dean's not one of those. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Dean made some really bad decisions, terrible decisions. He did

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he could because his heart was

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Speaker 1: He wasn't just doing that to sleep with two beautiful women.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't his intention. He he actually wanted to see

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Speaker 1: to talk about Mike Flis and these crazy crazy Okay,

1114
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: let's not call the creator of our beloved show crazy.

1115
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: I just think that his tweets are being a little

1116
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: lacky lately. We were analyzing them all weekend long when

1117
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: we were in Tahoe. The one today, the one that

1118
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: he tweeted about two or three hours ago, said unfortunately,

1119
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Peter will probably not be the Bachelor. And this follows

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Speaker 1: tweets over the past couple of days that said that

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Speaker 1: Wells will not be the Bachelor, that nobody from Jojo

1122
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: season will be the bachelor, and that Dean will also

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Speaker 1: not be the bachelor. So we are left with you

1124
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: and Luke are possible selection, probably probably not. So is

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: he just trying to mislead us? And it's definitely like

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00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: it's probably not. But the tem per cent chance, well,

1127
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 1: that's the temper cent it's going to actually end up being. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: I got a big announcement. I'd like to make him

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Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. I have no clue to the back.

1130
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you freaking me out. For a second,

1131
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: I was like, this is how it's happening, This is

1132
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: how it's going to happen. Part of this um, I

1133
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: have no clue and it's it's crazy. But here's here's

1134
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Speaker 1: the I know Mike. I think Mike is hilarious. I

1135
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: think Mike is brilliant. I think Mike knows exactly what

1136
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Speaker 1: he's doing, and what he's doing is getting people like

1137
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: us to talk about his crazy tweets. So there is

1138
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: a ton of interest around the next Bachelor. We don't

1139
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: know who it is. I don't even know if they

1140
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: know who it is. Honestly, at this point, I know

1141
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: that the people that he said are not the Bachelor,

1142
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: and I'm going to include Peter and that even though

1143
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: it was a probably, um, they're getting pretty thin and

1144
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: so if it's not me, oh, we're gonna to wait

1145
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: and see on Good Morning Arcade. You possibly hide this

1146
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: from us the entire time, I know, so I'd like

1147
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: to tell everybody out there little stories. So for the

1148
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: last three weeks, I've been planning to surprise Ashley in Tahoe,

1149
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: uh this last week because I couldn't wait to see

1150
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: her and Jared and Dean and Luke. So for three

1151
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: weeks I kept a pretty good secret up until the

1152
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: night that I was supposed to show up. Then actually

1153
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: and Jared found a picture of me at the airport

1154
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: adding the time, so they caught on. So if I

1155
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: can keep that secret, do you think I keep the secret? Ben?

1156
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Are you the Bachelor? Are you leaving me? On this podcast?

1157
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Okay, here's the deal. Mike Flice is

1158
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: a brilliant man. He created show that's played for twenty

1159
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: two seasons, plus The Bachelor at plus Bachelor in Paradise.

1160
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: He's hanging out in Hawaii right now, and he's laughing

1161
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Speaker 1: at all the attention that his tweets are getting. I

1162
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: don't know how this plays out, I don't, but what

1163
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: I do know is that him tweeting like a crazy

1164
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: person is such good at our It's such good entertainment.

1165
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: And all of us, including the two of you, will

1166
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: have to wait and find out who the next Bachelor

1167
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: will be. Then, Oh my gosh, okay it. First off,

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Speaker 1: you guys want to follow Mike plays Flights and also

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Speaker 1: Mike flaes ps, thank you for my life right now.

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Speaker 1: But it's at Flice, maister. It's f l E I

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Speaker 1: S S m E I S t E R. And

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Speaker 1: we'd love to hear you break down all the tweets

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: because we have just been analyzing the crap out of them. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: And I'm also going to do a little call here.

1175
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge Mike Flights to come on this podcast

1176
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: and explain himself all of tweets, uh next week hopefully

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Speaker 1: after the bachelors announced, and um, you'll have to wait

1178
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: and find out. Well, I can't believe that you're the bachelor.

1179
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: He's not. But I'm torn if I wanted to be

1180
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Peter or not now I don't even know. I do

1181
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: want Peter for yourself, because sometimes I wonder the same

1182
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, I'm very team Peter and becoming

1183
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: the bachelor, but also should I be thinking more selfishly? Ladies,

1184
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: you're getting very excited about this topic, but we're dragging

1185
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: it on a little bit longer than we should be.

1186
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: You can talk about this off here. I'm on a

1187
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: text thread with Ashley and Amy and it goes on

1188
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: and on and on about the next Bachelor, and and

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Speaker 1: I typically just deleted because I just I complain all

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Speaker 1: the time, like, oh my god, I'm so tired of

1191
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: speculating in the Bachelor's gonna be five minutes later. But really,

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Speaker 1: who do you think it's gonna be? This is my life.

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Speaker 1: It happens every time. Um, okay, but do you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, I am a fan. All Right, we

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Speaker 1: got some collars on the line, huge questions out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what we're talking about. Let's see what you

1222
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Speaker 1: think the next batchet will be. All right, let's go

1223
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Speaker 1: to Lauren and Missouri. Hello, Hello, Lauren. Hi, Oh my gosh,

1224
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna throw up. I love you so,

1225
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I'm okay, where are you right now?

1226
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm yes, I'm shaking. You're shaking. We thought you said chafing.

1227
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was real confused or like you're running.

1228
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Speaker 1: It's so funny. Yeah, okay, what do you think? Who

1229
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: is the next Bachelor? Lauren? Okay, so I've been following

1230
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: that producer's tweet and I really think it's been Z

1231
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: from the Paradise season because no, shot, you know what,

1232
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't know who it isn't. Oh my gosh, ben Zi, dude,

1233
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: you're very kind, but that would be really the season

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Speaker 1: of all time. Do you think he's just so cute? Yeah,

1235
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think he I think he has a

1236
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: big heart. I don't think knowing Ben first off, I

1237
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: don't think he would be able to handle it. I

1238
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: think he he cares a lot, and I think he would.

1239
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: He would get tired of the constant interaction. And he

1240
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: misses dog. That's true, he would miss his dog, sus

1241
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Speaker 1: he would, Lauren. Our follow up question to you then, Okay, Steve,

1242
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Speaker 1: I's been watching Bachelor in Paradise. Yes, Um, have you

1243
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: enjoyed this season? Is the first question want to ask. Um.

1244
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: It's been okay, Like I don't know what other words

1245
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: to describe. Um, it's kind of been a disappointment. I

1246
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: feel like because the only love story is really Taylor

1247
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: and Derek, and I felt are not really showcasing it.

1248
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: It's more about on the other drama. Uh. And I

1249
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: just I guess, like I love Dean at the beginning

1250
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: of the season. Now I'm mad at him and I'm

1251
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: just kind of like, what are you doing? Um? I

1252
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: want to see more of Robbie and Amanda because I

1253
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: love that storyline. UM, But everything else that just seems

1254
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: like it all fizzling out, and I don't know. I

1255
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I was listening to you

1256
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: guys this podcast yesterday from I Guess was it last

1257
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: week about how there's just been a lot of drama

1258
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: and it really hasn't been any love, and I was like, yes,

1259
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: I agree with that. It feels like magical are musical chairs?

1260
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: Feels like musical chairs, and every the music stopped and

1261
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: everybody's screwing to find someone, and everybody partners up with

1262
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: someone they don't actually really like. Yeah, no, I agree.

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: It's it's all like just having fun with their friends

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01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: and it's not really about finding that connection. And I

1265
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: feel like everyone's just trying to make it as long

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: as they can on Paradise without even really just trying

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: to find love. Lord. As you're talking there, UM, I

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: thought of something. Okay, it's kind of clipped with me

1269
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: and I could be crazy, So I need to bounce

1270
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: this off some of my my female wisdom here the

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Speaker 1: two of you. Um, you said you know you love

1272
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: Dean beginning of the season, right, everybody loved and now

1273
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: you're just mad at him. Do you kind of feel

1274
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: like Dean is your little brother? Like, I haven't met

1275
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: many women who like absolutely hate them. They're all just

1276
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: annoyed and mad at him, like this is that? Is

1277
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: that kind of how everybody's feeling. I think. I don't

1278
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: know about the brother thing. I just I kind of

1279
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: see him as like a guy in my past that

1280
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: strewed me over, and I'm just kind of like taking

1281
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: my anger out on what happened to me out on

1282
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: him because I'm watching it on national television, if that

1283
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: makes sense. But I could see like the little brother's

1284
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: side of things too, because if my brother did that,

1285
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: I would be just as mad. Yeah, I mean I

1286
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: get it, like there isn't many people that hate and

1287
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: you shouldn't hate Bean. I mean you should be upset

1288
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: with his with his decision making, but I feel like

1289
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: he's just so darn cute that everybody's like, oh, you

1290
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: know what, just so mad at you, Dean, But gosh,

1291
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: dang it, I just want to pinch your cheeks. Yeah,

1292
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: I cane like to say that, And I was wondering

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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: if that's how you felt, Ashley, since you guys are

1294
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: like so close. Yeah, I just don't like the fact

1295
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: that people are villainizing him for mistakes that he's making

1296
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: when like we all make mistakes. I'm not condoning that

1297
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: he don't insensitive things, but nothing's ever been done by

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: him in malicious intent, you know what I mean. People

1299
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: are making see he's trying to hurt people on purpose,

1300
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: and he doesn't feel bad. But I think, you know,

1301
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: I think he definitely feels bad about it, or else

1302
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be as emotional as he is on the show.

1303
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: I think if he didn't care about Christina, then he

1304
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: then you would see that, But I think he does.

1305
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: I think Christina was just a challenge for him and

1306
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: he didn't know how to handle that because like the

1307
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: right woman for you was going to be intimidating. So

1308
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's a villain either,

1309
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: And I don't understand why people are labeling him as

1310
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: a villain because I think he just made a mistake

1311
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: and I think it's just as unfortunate for him. It's

1312
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: on national television. Yeah, he's a good looking feller who

1313
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: got stuck on an island with some really good looking

1314
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: people and he fell for multiple Like, I can't feel

1315
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: that bad for Day, but we can. We can also

1316
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: check him where he's at and say come on, buddy,

1317
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 1: step it up. So, Lauren, thank you for the call.

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lauren. We're gonna move by talking to you guys.

1319
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: So good talking to you all. Right now we're going

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: on to Emily in New Jersey. Hey, Emily, UM, what

1321
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: you're thinking? Hi? Um? First up, I love both of

1322
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm as past with this podcast. I watched it.

1323
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: I listened to it every week. Thank you, Thank you, Emily.

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you saying that. Um. I have a

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: question about whether you whether or not you guys think

1326
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: that there's a possibility of them getting this Bachelor season

1327
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: and having Christina go up as the bachelrette. Did you

1328
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 1: have my car bugged this morning? Because this is exactly

1329
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: what I was talking about. And the only reason, and

1330
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a spectacular idea, the only reason I

1331
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: see it being um impossible, not you know, completely possible,

1332
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: nothing impossible. There's something impossible anyway, um, is that they've

1333
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: already casted presumably all the girls for said Bachelor's season,

1334
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: and they have not done any casting for the guys. Well,

1335
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: and I mean there's some TV business we got to

1336
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: talk about here. Yeah, So the Bachelor historically brings in

1337
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: UM a lot better ratings than The Bachelorette. UM, it's

1338
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: just kind of time a year, So I mean, I

1339
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: guess it would be different. Time you can really put

1340
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: down and play. But I think that UM, the Bachelor

1341
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: has a female audience, and the females like watching the

1342
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: Bachelor because they can kind of relate with the women

1343
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: and there's more than one woman involved, and then they

1344
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: kind of all like the you and over the Bachelor,

1345
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: and so it brings in more ratings. It's it's it's

1346
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: a higher, higher publicized show. So I think i'd be

1347
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: I would be very surprised. I don't think that would

1348
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: be the case. What I don't think would be surprising

1349
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: it would be if The Bachelor comes outside of the

1350
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: franchise this season. It's so I believe it's not Peter,

1351
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: it's not the it's nobody that will at least nobody's

1352
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: participated in this show before. I'd say there's about a

1353
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: seventy possibility that's gonna be the case. I UM suggested

1354
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: an outside celebrity UM to one of the producers, and

1355
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: he seemed about three weeks ago to poo poo that

1356
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: idea of having somebody from outside the franchise. Of course

1357
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: he would. He doesn't want to get you involved in this. Yeah,

1358
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: I know. He was like, actually, you just up with

1359
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: a genius idea. We're going to pretend like she wasn't

1360
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: the one who came up with it, and we're gonna

1361
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: go along with it. Actually, I hope if it is

1362
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: a bachelor outside of the franchise that you take credit

1363
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: for it. I take credit for it. That would be

1364
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: I would love that I would come out on this

1365
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: podcast until everyone what happened? You know? The truth to

1366
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: all this is we it is a time where we're

1367
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: excited for this. I mean we're I remember leading up

1368
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: to the announcement of me being a bachelor, and just

1369
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: to let everybody know, I only found out I was

1370
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: gonna be the bachelor about four days before we announced it,

1371
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: which is so silly because you are like, we're the

1372
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: obvious bachelor, you know. So if that took four if

1373
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: that was four days before it was announced, I can't

1374
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: even imagine what it's gonna be like this time around,

1375
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: when it's just so up in the air. Yeah, I mean,

1376
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: that's it, and so there's a lot of anticipation. We're

1377
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: all excited. I'm excited. I think we need another great

1378
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: guy to join that this family. Did you say like me?

1379
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh uh? You guys make me make me laugh. Um.

1380
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, we'll have to wait and see. But

1381
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: if not, Christina is a choice, let's let's do another

1382
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: Bachelor st season. I always like watching them. I think

1383
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: after Paradise everyone loved it. But yeah, thank you guys,

1384
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: thank you for your very poignant thoughts. Emily. We're going

1385
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: to move on to Allison in Pennsylvania. Hey, you are

1386
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: a teacher. No, I am a senior at Tufts University.

1387
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: But at Tufts we have this program where you can

1388
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: teach UM seminars to freshman as sort of an orientation class.

1389
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: So I'm teaching one with my best friend called The

1390
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Society baulate tonight. So what exactly does this

1391
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: class until? Well, um, So the first portion of the class,

1392
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: we're sort of looking at the production and looking at

1393
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: editing and how the show is physically made. Um. And

1394
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: then the second portion we're really diving into um, looking

1395
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: at social issues through the length of The Bachelor. So

1396
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: we have an episode on gender and sort of heteronormativity

1397
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: dating norm and then we get into races Rachel season,

1398
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: and we have a class on uh content and sexual

1399
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: misconduct that works really well, you know from the Paradise stuff,

1400
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: but especially for a classical freshman students in college. It

1401
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: sort of worked out pretty well that we're able to

1402
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: talk about that definitely. So what are your thoughts on

1403
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: this season of The Bachelor in Paradise? Um, I think

1404
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 1: it's been interesting. As I said, the sexual misconduct stuff

1405
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: was horrible, and I thought the whole thing was a

1406
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: big mess, but it has given us a lot of

1407
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: fruit for thought to think of going into our class. Um.

1408
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a very difficult situation to handle, but

1409
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: that overall the producers tried their best and how to

1410
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: handle it and treat it as a scarious issue. But obviously,

1411
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, when you're thrown into something like that and

1412
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: you're still trying to produce a TV show, it's hard

1413
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: to deal with things delicately and still from the drama

1414
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Yeah, what about the love stories,

1415
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we got some crazy love stories going on,

1416
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: some bickering. Well, Reach just talked to Christen on this podcast.

1417
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: She is uh. I think we've nominated to the most

1418
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: sought after Woman in Paradise this year. Um, when you

1419
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: watch this, you're obviously educated. You're intelligent, you're teaching class

1420
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: on it. Do you get emotionally involved in these storylines

1421
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: or do you kind of keep it a distance and

1422
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: you just analyze everything. I do get emotionally involved. I

1423
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: go into it thinking, Okay, I'm going to take my notes,

1424
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: so I'm really going to analyze. But always halfway through,

1425
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm smiling, I'm cranking. I'm so excited for the people.

1426
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: And I always do believe in the love story, and

1427
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it doesn't work out. I believe in

1428
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: Taylor and Derek. They're very cute. Yeah, I'm with you.

1429
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean I've I've watched this before and I emotionally

1430
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: involved myself in a lot of these stories because I

1431
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: do know it can work. I mean, Ashley would be

1432
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: the first to tell you, Hey, true feelings can come

1433
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: from the show every time. I mean, if you if

1434
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: you just open yourself up, who knows where it will go.

1435
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 1: And we saw a little preview after this week's Bachelor

1436
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,520
Speaker 1: in Paradise where somebody was getting down on one knee proposing.

1437
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: It looks like at the reunion special, But do you

1438
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: think that is. I think that it has to be

1439
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: Derek and Taylor, just based on the fact that they've

1440
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: been only sort of solid couple through the whole thing,

1441
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: and yes they've had their issues, but they've been about

1442
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: the other one the whole time. Everyone else. I'm just

1443
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: not sure. Amanda. I don't think is ready to jump

1444
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: into anything again, you know, after last season and Kristen

1445
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: you said is juggling a lot of guys. I don't

1446
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: think you can really whittle it down and this short

1447
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: amount of a time, you don't think Amanda's ready, she doesn't.

1448
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Speaker 1: We just lost our caller. Um, we are going to

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Speaker 1: All right, we're moving into our final segment, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites. We have some great listener emails this week.

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 1: I mean, after last week we kind of challenge everybody

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Speaker 1: right in on their ideas of virgin shaming and the

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Speaker 1: show and some of the main topics, and we had

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Speaker 1: a plethora of emails. Ben, we should do a bonus

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Speaker 1: podcast sometime where all we do is answer listener questions.

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Speaker 1: That sounds awesome. Yeah, let's do that, Okay, But for

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Speaker 1: right now, we're just going to talk about Sophia. Sophia

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Speaker 1: wrote to us and she says, just wondering what your

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Speaker 1: thoughts are on Nick and Vanessa's breakup. I know Ben

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Speaker 1: went through a very similar situation. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: insight on what happened? I know it's a person situation,

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Speaker 1: but all seems so great and happy for them. Um.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we only see what they let us see on

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Speaker 1: social media, but it seems so sudden. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I love the podcast. You guys are the best. Hope

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Speaker 1: you because its discussed this Sophia. Um, Ben, I guess

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Speaker 1: I'll go first, because I think I see Nick more

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Speaker 1: often than you. But all I can say on this

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Speaker 1: matter is truly that Nick and Vanessa had been very

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Speaker 1: private in the relationship. Whenever Nick and I hang out,

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Speaker 1: we don't really we don't really talk about that part

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01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: of life very much. Um. Yeah, that's just something that

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: they've always been very privative, ever since he even got

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Speaker 1: back from the Bachelor. Yeah, I would. I mean, I

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: don't think there is a great way to handle this, right.

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Speaker 1: I can only speak from my experience, but it is

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Speaker 1: a private situation that because of your respect for the

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Speaker 1: fans and the people that have watched you, you make

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01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: it they don't need to tell us that they even

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01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 1: broke up, right, we could just find out the grapevine,

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Speaker 1: and and Lauren, I didn't need to tell everybody publicly

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01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: they were broke up, but we wanted to out of

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Speaker 1: respect for the fans. Um, you know what leads up

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Speaker 1: to it? It's hard to say. Sometimes relationships in all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Sometimes they're going really well and something

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Speaker 1: happens and it changes everything in a split of a

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Speaker 1: in the split of a second. And um, we don't

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Speaker 1: know the backstory here. All I know is from my experience,

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Speaker 1: and it's not an easy situation. It's hard no matter

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Speaker 1: how it's done. And I mean, what do you want

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Speaker 1: them to do? Did you want them to post on

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Speaker 1: their social media Instagram is leading up to and say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're having issues today, We're getting closer to the breakup. Hey,

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Speaker 1: tomrow you know tomorrow look for us even closer. No,

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Speaker 1: you you you don't know. It will just happen when

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Speaker 1: it happens. Um. My advice to him now, UM, I

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Speaker 1: don't really know. That's that's a tough topic. That's a

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: tough subject. I guess my advice for them now is

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Speaker 1: to keep their heads up, um, not listen to a noise,

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: to find a way to love and respect each other.

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Speaker 1: UM so much. It's important and um and UM they're

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Speaker 1: both lovely people. You know, Nick and I are very close.

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Speaker 1: He's um a guiding a guiding source for me, honestly,

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Speaker 1: and has been for the past couple of years. He's

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Speaker 1: like a big brother to me. And Vanessa. I didn't

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Speaker 1: hang out with her too much, but every time I did,

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Speaker 1: she was lovely, very very nice girl to hang out with.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, Nick and Vanessa are now officially

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Speaker 1: moving on. We wish them the best from this podcast. Um,

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01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 1: we think highly of them and uh we just hope

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Speaker 1: at this time that the hearts are breaking and life

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Speaker 1: is changing, that they are able to keep moving forward.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's a sad note to end the

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Speaker 1: podcast on, but it is something we have to address

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Speaker 1: as we are one of the official we are like

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Speaker 1: the official Bachelor podcast. Alright, guys, Well, next week is

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Speaker 1: the finale of Bachelor in Paradise. Can't wait to talk

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01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: about this supposed engagement with you guys, and to see

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01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: what happens with Deanie babies. Oh and there's a scandal

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Speaker 1: that we don't even know about. And maybe next time

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Speaker 1: we talk to you, we'll finally know who the Bachelor is.

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Speaker 1: That is what I'm most excited about. So until then,

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Speaker 1: I've been Ashley. See you, guys. Followed the Benn and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe

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