1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show with 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: my bes friend Mike Harmon. 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More than that, I think, more than I 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: can't believe Brady is ruining the sanctity of the NFL 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: by sitting in on broadcast meetings. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Toby Brady could do this. 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: Tom Brady could do that. 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna help them Raiders win a game. 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: I mean, you say it out loud, it really doesn't 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: make anything. 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: Maybe the man in a Gaberdine suit with a spy 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: like if he showed up on facility, he'd have a 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: camera and his tie, or is he's wearing some of 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: those meta glasses so he'd record anything that he saw. Hey, 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 4: there was something that was discarded in the trash can. Hey, 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: could you get me a glass of water? And now 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 4: he's rifling through a desk. So we're gonna have that 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 4: coming up in about fifteen minutes. But look, obviously, Hey, 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: the big stunning story today we all woke up and 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: saw the news the death of Robert Redford at the 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: age of eighty nine, one of the greatest movie stars 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: that any of us have seen. You look up movie 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: star in the dictionary. You see Robert Redford's picture. I mean, 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: that's how big a deal it was. His list of 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: movies is so incredibly long. But really, and I love 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: today that things kept coming back to two movies, Butch 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 4: and Sundance and The Natural right, things have been whatever 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: people say, you'd get some sting in there, a little bit, 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: that's fine, but overall I'm watching The Natural Trend and 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: Butch and Sundance and The Natural and I'm like, okay, 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: good because I really want I'm like, wow, it's really 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: interesting to see. This is the movie that people are 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: going to gravitate towards the most. Right, everybody's got their friend. 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: The Sting was Phinal I've got I've got somebody in 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 4: the Sting because it's Chicago, it's Robert Shaw, it's all 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: about I mean, come on, he's part of the Marvel 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: cinematic universe. 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, how many people play are going, Oh, 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: Alexander Pierce, the guy that played Alexander Pierce, the old guy. 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: But that's just it, right, like a career that spanned 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 4: so many different things. We I think I probably saw 56 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: more movies of him in history lit classes, not film classes. 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: That's a whole other thing. But we're gonna use the 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 4: Robert Redford movie here. 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, every book, everybody's got their fend. 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: If you ask me if I had to pick between 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Butch and sun Dance and The Natural, I'm like, no, 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm not picking. For a guy that makes his living 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: with opinions, I'm not picking. I'm not choosing. I'm not 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: ready for one over the other No Sneakers, Brew Baker, 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: Oh b Baker, Heartbreaker, Brew Baker Baker, won't you shot 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: my shoes? For free? 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: Or prison corruption? 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: Morgan Freeman yaf Coto, great, great cast, going back, I 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: think it was nineteen to eighty uh so before we 70 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: get into something big from the natural, right, I mean, 71 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: this is this baseball movie. You know, it goes down 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: as I I don't look. I don't even know you 73 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: can limit it and say as the best baseball movie. Like, 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: I don't know that I could put a sports movie 75 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: above it, simply because of all the sports movies that 76 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: I love, right, how much I stop and watch Moneyball 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: all the time. 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: And we're just watching it. We're just watching Looking for 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the Natural somewhere on TV. But like of all the 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: great movies, of all the great sports movies, Field of 81 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Dreams and Hoosiers and all the ones that people want 82 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: to say, oh, it's so good, it's so good, it's 83 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: so good, I don't know that, and I just base 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: it on Oh I see it. I'm stopping and watching it, right, 85 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Like I could tell you how great Field of Dreams is. 86 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: But am I always stopping at Field of Dreams to 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: what No, I'm not right. As much as I love 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: other sports, but how great that am I always stopping 89 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: to watch? 90 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: But when in the natural, I'm stopping to watch the 92 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: natural Like it's one of those Oh it's like Shaw 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Shank or anything else that that's become a classic over 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the last thirty some odd years, like that's the move 95 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Like okay, No, So when I thought about that today, 96 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, that's the best sports movie that I've 97 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: ever seen, because I just keep going back to it. 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that other movies aren't great, aren't aren't 99 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: made better, but just the natural. It's not sometimes about 100 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: cinematic it's not sometimes about well here's the plot and 101 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: here's this, but it's it's just about the connection that 102 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the audience has with a movie. And the story is timeless. Right, 103 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: it's corruption in sports. Right, it happened in the nineteen 104 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: thirty Right, this this book took place that was first 105 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: was a book that took place in the nineteen thirties, 106 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: and it was apropos in the eighties, and it's apropos now. 107 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: And you're talking about of course, you know, Robert Redford 108 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: isn't gambling on his on his on his phone in 109 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: the in the New yor Knight's locker room, but like. 110 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: We give a time that we deal with that. Now 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: surprised we haven't had an update of this week? 112 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: Are you fixing games? Are you not? Are you in? 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: Are you in for the fix? Are you not? 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Like the movie is absolutely timeless, and I think that's 115 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: part of of the the overall appeal of it is that, yeah, 116 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: it's a period movie, and sometimes period movies age well 117 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes they really don't. But this was one of 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: those period movies that like, yeah, you're in that time. 119 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: You're in nineteen thirty nine, when when this when this 120 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: movie is taking place, and it's it's still where the 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: World Series is the biggest sporting event in the country. 122 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: But you know you only get it on radio. You know, 123 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: it's it's in the only get game games during the day. 124 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: So it's it's really it really is something to see 125 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: that be the movie. And I'm glad that that's the 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: movie that cut through for him as we remember his 127 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: life in his career. 128 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a minute since I've sat down and 129 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: watched it, you know. Having changed the viewing patterns from 130 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: a the old style of cable television right where you'd 131 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: be flipping through two hundred channels and you'd probably end 132 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: up on it every once in a while. Like I 133 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: don't have direct TV, right, I've got all the different 134 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: streaming services, so you piece meal it together, which means 135 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: you're you're not necessarily running into it so on site, 136 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: out of mind kind of thing. But immediately today you 137 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: start going through your metal stand and your list and 138 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: the natural gravitates. I mean a lot of it goes 139 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: back to the uh, some of the Wilford Brimley fun because. 140 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: We have that. 141 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 5: I mean between between kids. 142 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: Guys don't start playing ball at your age. 143 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 5: They were tied. 144 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, Like that's where part 145 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: of the Wilford Brimley line comes from. It's like he 146 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: was what three years older than Redford at the time, and. 147 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: I'd like to talk to you for a few minutes 148 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 5: about diabet us. 149 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: Right, he looked thirty years older. I mean, we talked cocoon. 150 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: But I mean, here's here's some of the genesis of that. 151 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: So all of that, like the timeless nature of it. 152 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: Some of the other stars, Robert Duvall, who anytime he 153 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: shows up, you've got my rapt attention. 154 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: All the way through Evall and Robert Prosky and and 155 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: uh uh and and and James. What's then August the Gambler. 156 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I keep forgetting his name, Darren mcavinuh, even Kim Basinger, 157 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: who I've never been the biggest fan of. That's probably 158 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: her best movie. Like the performances, top to bottom, Glenn 159 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: Close there just for Michael Madson, you know. 160 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: What I mean? 161 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Everybody in it is so good, and Michael Madson just 162 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: has this small part and it's so memorable. Why didn't 163 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: you slide bump? That is cigar in my back pocket? 164 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want to break it, okay, but I do 165 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: want to say this. They do have a hot take 166 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: on The Natural. I have a hot, hot take, hot 167 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: take on the Natural right now, and I'm spoiling it. 168 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: But that's okay. It's been around a long time. 169 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what, We've got hot take on it. 170 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: So it comes down to the final game, and it's 171 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: a playoff to get in because you know that the 172 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: bullet wound opens up and and he's got to be 173 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: in the hospital for three days. He's in the he's 174 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: in the baby ward and everything else. So he comes 175 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: out and they're playing there wait to bullet. Well yeah, yeah, 176 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I just said, look up anyway, look up Eddie Wakes 177 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Pillies Whiz Kids, nineteen fifty one. So it's the 178 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: final game against the Pirates, right, so Nights and the 179 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Pirates to go to the World Series. 180 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: And you know Al. 181 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Fowler who was fixing the game up until Roy Hobbs 182 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: told him, don't fix the game anymore. Okay, hey, after 183 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the game, I think they're gonna want to talk to 184 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: Al Faller about things. But so it's two nothing going 185 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: to the ninth inning, right, all right, first two batters 186 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: get out, right, you know, Hobbs is hitting third, you 187 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: get a base hit, Bivens gets a base hit, and 188 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: then you get another. You get another hit sort of 189 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: error where the first baseman doesn't catch the ball and 190 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: you wind with runners at second and third. 191 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, then here we go. 192 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: You got running you know, here we are. You got 193 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: runny runners or runners at first and third. Here we are. Okay, 194 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: now it's too nothing. And young Berry, the pitcher for 195 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: the for Pittsburgh, who's an eighteen and nine on the season, 196 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: pitching a three hitter. Okay, this is I'm such a nerd, 197 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: aren't it. I'm such a nerd. Young Berry's got a three. 198 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: Use this for good. 199 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: And here comes Hobbes up with two on, two out, 200 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: and it's a two nothing lead in the bottom of 201 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: the ninth inning. This is Roy Bleeping Hobbs, right, He's 202 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: the best hitter in He's the story. He is Sodo 203 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: and O'tani and Judge wrapped into one. Okay, I mean 204 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: remember what he did to the whammer. Yeah, I mean, 205 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: come on, it's got balls as dry as your granddaddy's scalp. 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: So again, I'm such a nerd, right, I'm such a 207 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: natural nerd. So Young Berry loses it right obviously, right, 208 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: two pitches way outside. The manager of the Pirate, Sibby Cistio, 209 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: by the way, former baseball star, comes out to take 210 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: Young Berry out of the game. So he comes out 211 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: of the game. Two outs, two on, bottom of the 212 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: ninth inning. You're up to nothing. The count is two 213 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: and oh on the best hitter on the planet. All 214 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: of these guys rolled into one. It's two and oh. 215 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: And then here comes and I get goosebumps. Young Nebraska 216 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: farm boy John Rhade strides to the mound he's got 217 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: the best fastball in the major leagues right now, not 218 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: even an entire season under his belt, and already I'm 219 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: thinking of Devin Williams is such a great closer. Pete 220 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: a Lonzo gonna face, Oh, sorry, too soon. So he 221 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: comes in and he pitches to Hobbs, and it really 222 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: you would think, okay, it's two and oh to the 223 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: best picture. You need one out. Would you rather pitch 224 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: to somebody else with the bases loaded, or Roy Hobbs 225 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: with somebody else, Yes, especially when you're inherited. 226 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: I plug him. 227 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: You're especially with the blood on. Make sure you're. 228 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: Hey you. So he comes in and you inherit a 229 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: two and oh count. Okay, you're sending him to first 230 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: base now, actually nineteen thirty nine you have to actually 231 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: throw the couple of pitches, but you're taking your chance 232 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: with whoever is batty. 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 5: You never no, that's it. 234 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: I don't see the guy on up stretch and he's 235 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 4: got like four bats. 236 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 5: That he's winging around. You have no idea. Club that 237 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: wore him up with none of that. 238 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: It could have been Dave Kingman. You have no idea. 239 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: So but you pitch to him. 240 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: And and you know you if you fight back in 241 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: the count, you get a two and two count, right, 242 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: you're pitching to him. You're pitching to him, and he 243 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: hits the home run that wins the game. And that's 244 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: a whole thing. I'm like, okay, why would you ever 245 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,359 Speaker 1: pitch to him? And then you sayman music. 246 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: Rolling out? 247 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 5: Period? 248 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: He actually did the music for the Like, why would 249 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: you do that? Like, well, I didn't understand. You would 250 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: never pitch to Hobbs. 251 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: And that's it. There's zero. 252 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: First of all, you would take young Berry out after 253 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the after the ground most likely that they misplay at 254 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: thirty beats it out at first base. But those two, okay, 255 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: you're taking him out of the game or you're walking 256 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: him because Young Berry, you know, tough to take Young 257 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: Berry out of the game. 258 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: No, Young Berry was cooked. 259 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: You just saw the Yeah, you had to get out 260 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: of the way, right, Youngberry was cooked, right, I get it. 261 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Three pits, but yeh, but you got your closer, you know, 262 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: young Nebraska farm boy jo right, and by the way, 263 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: beyond the natural like what happened to John Roads the 264 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: rest of his game? Did he let that define him? 265 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: And he was out of the league in a couple 266 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: of years or did he become one of the best 267 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: firemen in baseball? 268 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: He didn't win the Fireman Award. Instead he burned out. 269 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: But now he was fixing games. 270 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: But you don't. But you don't do that. You simply 271 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: you don't pitch to Roy Hobbs. Now you want to 272 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: get even deeper on it. Right, I gave him more 273 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: nerdy on you. So the next two pitches, right when 274 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: he comes in, he gives you. He gives you a 275 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: fastball that that Redford misses, and then you get a 276 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: fastball over the heart of the plate that he just 277 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: misses a home run on right. So you're like, oh, wow, okay, 278 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: so Rhodes missed his location and you know, you see 279 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: the ball and it fade. That's such a great moment 280 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: when you think he's got the home runing fading fil 281 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: You're like, ah, we'll get to the whole bat thing 282 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: in a minute, because that was that was such an 283 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: unbelievable moment. But he comes back and you're like okay, 284 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: and the catcher sees that Hobbs is bleeding from the 285 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: in front, you know, on on on the inside of 286 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: his uh on the inside of his belly, and he 287 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: calls again, because he calls from three inside fastballs. So clearly, 288 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: as injures Hobbs, is he has enough to turn on 289 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: that fastball and and h and and just miss a 290 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: home run down the right field line. Wouldn't you call 291 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: something a little bit further away? It's two and two 292 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: at that point, right, you're calling for an inside fastball 293 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: that Hobbs clearly turns on and hits it, you know, 294 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: five thousand feet like clearly, Oh he got all of 295 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: that one. 296 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: So you want to get into those two things. 297 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: You would never pitch them, and you would never call 298 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: for an inside fastball in that situation. You would call 299 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: something outside proof You've seen that, you see whatever his 300 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: season was right for home runs, Uh, you would see that. 301 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: I know those two big things. You know the older 302 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I got watching basketball, like, I don't understand why why 303 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: they didn't do that. You would have never pitched him. 304 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: You would have never called for an inside fastball. Make 305 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: him try see at two and two? Clearly you got 306 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: him right, you got him. You threw the you know, 307 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: you threw the pitchy he fouled back and breaks the 308 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: mirror right in front of Robert balls like, oh he 309 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: just shattered the glass. Right, Hobbs is getting even with 310 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: all his enemies. And then the next one, big wild 311 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: swing that he missed on. And then the next one 312 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: was that inside Festibal. The last thing you do is 313 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: coming back on an inside fastball. That's gonna do that. 314 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: So really two those two, really I could simmy Sisty 315 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: really ruined that game. I mean, you can really say 316 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: what a horrible decision that is, like you'll beyond the natural. Hey, 317 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: you interview Himingo, boy, that was really bad decision making 318 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: their grady little Why did you take Pedro Martinez out 319 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: of the game? Like that's kind of where those two things. 320 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: Like, ll I insert your favorite I mean, come starter, 321 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: who gets yanked from a game? 322 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking about that a lot, because watching the end, 323 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: the final home run is getting put up there and 324 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: it's so great and uh, and I just think all 325 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: about those couple of things, like, yeah, you know, he 326 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: calls for three straight inside fit. 327 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: You're not doing that. 328 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: You're not slipping three inside fastballs by the best hitter 329 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: in the game. I don't care if he's got a 330 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: bullet leaking out of his abdomen, he's got one that 331 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: bat left in his life. That's it, man, he's done. 332 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: He's walking, not even gonna play in the World Series. 333 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: He's done. 334 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: And if nothing else, you've got him. Clearly, he's aggravated. 335 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: The stories bleeding what you want him to stretch? 336 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 5: See if he really take him out? 337 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's see if he reaches for 338 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the you know, i mean, what the hell's gonna happen? 339 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: All hell's gonna break loose? And you want to wait 340 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 5: straight out of a terrifier movie, and. 341 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: You probably want to waste one anyway, because you've just 342 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: come in with three strikes in a row. It's not 343 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: full count, right, you make him go outside like this. 344 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: It was a horrible baseball strategy, man. 345 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: Figuring he's not gonna have full power. 346 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, he is bloody, Yeah, no, the blood Like 347 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: if you watch like the blood that he goes up 348 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: there with, he's got like one one big stand and 349 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: one tiny one. By the time he gets to his 350 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: third swing, it's like three big sweats like Wolverine. 351 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Got him with his claws. 352 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, he's he's never gonna 353 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: hit this and the catch, yeah, I like the game. No, no, no, 354 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: he's starting to rock back and forth. Yeah, yeah, but 355 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: you like it the same month, the very beginning, the 356 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: first he was the first umpire when Hobbs's first at bat, 357 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: calls a strike that Hobbs didn't like and he stares 358 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: him down. And then you see, because the movie, the 359 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: way that went the court, the respect he gets. He says, 360 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: you are right fella. The umpire says you are right fella, 361 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: like I'm calling this strike on you and I'm staring 362 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: you down because you're just a guy coming up here. 363 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: But now, over the course of the movie, then you 364 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: see at the end, hey, oh, are you a right fella? 365 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, like, I don't know if that was initiate, 366 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: that that was something Barry Levinson decided to do, saying, hey, 367 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna see the evolution of Hobbs through this umpire, 368 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: or if it's just well, this guy's the umpire for 369 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: the other game. We'll save money if we keep them 370 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: for the final game. We don't have to have somebody 371 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: else come in an umpire. So that's fine, whatever it. 372 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: Is, it worked. 373 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: You know what's funny is I quoted this today and 374 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: like my daughter was going off to school and she 375 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: was having a little bit of a rant that she 376 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: was making about something with the teacher in terms of 377 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: interpreting literature and and such, And in my timeline came 378 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: a quote from Ernest Hemingway to somebody, It's like, you 379 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: know what, sometimes in a book, a fish is a fish, 380 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: a fisherman is a fisherman, the sea is the sea, 381 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: and sharks are sharks. 382 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Okay, right, Yeah, So your simplest answer of the same 383 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: umpire might be it might be something a lot deeper 384 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,239 Speaker 1: the evolution. 385 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: Listen these two. 386 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 5: Through the years, he. 387 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: Gained a respect for his hitting eye and the battling 388 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 4: that he'd done for his career. Yeah, but you don't 389 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: have that the whole time, So you can infer it 390 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: if you want. 391 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: We're taking to say, hey, we're taking the whole week. 392 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: We're doing all the baseball scenes in one week here Buffalo. 393 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: So if he stays for three days, he can stay 394 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: for the first game a Hobbs had, and he can 395 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: stay for the final game. 396 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: All right, let's get it. 397 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: Let's get him a room for a couple extra nights 398 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: instead of bringing the other guy in. We'll save about 399 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars on a plane flight a new row 400 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: to hotel room, So let's just do that. Oh hey, 401 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I can just look at the end and go, oh yeah, 402 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: cause it's the same guy. Oh I can oh really 403 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: looks like I did it that way. I'm a great filmmaker, Okay, 404 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: Like you know who says that stuff like that has 405 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Vince Gilligan, Like when people ask him stuff about breaking 406 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: bad and like, when you did this in this scene, 407 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. And sometimes he says, you know, we 408 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: thought about that, or he always gives credit to all 409 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: my director photography or my cinematographer, my cameraman saw this, 410 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: But sometimes he just says, yeah, we just looked into that, 411 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, there's half. 412 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: Great that that. 413 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: I mean, the famous pizza on the roof thing. Yeah 414 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: right there, Yeah, one and done. Now it is uh 415 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: so then a movie? What what a career? What a legacy? 416 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: I mean? 417 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: And we didn't even get into everything else when you 418 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: talk about sun Dance and everything else that float out 419 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: of that. But you talk about a guy that, over 420 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: the course of his acting career, let alone directing, producing 421 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: all the other stuff he did, You've got so many 422 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: definable characters for him. It's like and then it becomes 423 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: not only your favorite movie, but you remember him from. 424 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 5: And there's memes all over that. 425 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I saw people today going, wait that that Johnson guy 426 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: who was Robert redd is not glafan Akus. That's do 427 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: that's Robert, That's actually Robert Redford. That's smiling at me. 428 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: People have been sending me for a decade. Yes, Jeremiah 429 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: Johnson exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down The 430 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen well 431 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: more remembrances of the natural Robert Redford. 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Well you get 462 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: to be the play of the day. 463 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 3: And now. 464 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: To pity and it's time not paying to New York? 465 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: Can they open again? 466 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: Met's TV on the call. 467 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: You would see the broadcast as Baty is rounding the bases. 468 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: They have the light explode, you know, falling over him. 469 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: They superimposed stuff from the natural. They play the natural music. 470 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: You hear the crack of the bat for Redford. A 471 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: really cool thing. And I don't know if other ballparks 472 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: have done stuff like that tonight. I'm sure they have, 473 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: but that's been the big thing that's got a lot 474 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: of attension on social media. 475 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: You know, you see the you. 476 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Know the lights, you know, and you like how in 477 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: the movie the Light, you know, one light it's connected 478 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: to the entire staateum. You hit the wrong light, you 479 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: knocked the wrong light out that all the other lights 480 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: are gonna do. 481 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: It's like a Christmas tree. 482 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it goes. 483 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 5: All It takes that one bulb to take down your 484 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: entire tree. All the work, all the hours. 485 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: Now you gotta go bulb by bulb and find that 486 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: little bag of replacements that's tethered at the end of 487 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: one of those strands. You're not sure what you or 488 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: if you pull them off, what box they're now? 489 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 5: Wit? 490 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: No, you're right, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. 491 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 5: Now you're in lighting hell. 492 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: So again, that's awesome, a big ovation for that, and 493 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, as we remember the life of Robert Redford, 494 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: who passed away earlier today at the age of eighty nine, 495 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: we'll have more natural a conversation, maybe more hot takes 496 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: about some. 497 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: More natural conversation. 498 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you just tried to go through the 499 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: whole thing of logic instead of suspending your disbelief. 500 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 5: I don't know that they'd really pitched to him there. 501 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: Well, it probably wouldn't know. They wouldn't. That's a whole thing though. 502 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: You want me. 503 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: I really think they'd be trying to set him up 504 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: on the outside, maybe get him to extend, since you 505 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: know he's bleeding. I mean I realized the first time 506 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: he actually hit the ball, the cover got torn off 507 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: the ball, which I you know you but I think 508 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: that happened once in baseball. I want to say that 509 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: sometime and there was some kind of minor league thing 510 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: where the ball where the uh, the flap came off 511 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. Some I thought I remember something. 512 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: I mean, you had enough guys with razor blades and 513 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: stuff cutting into the ball. I'm sure that did something. Dude, 514 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: disrupt the integrity of the leather and the stitch. That's 515 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: not a ball. We want a real ball. I throw 516 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 4: the ball, not that, not that stuff. Give me the ball. 517 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: I'll tell me. 518 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: Tell me you didn't love it when the ball you 519 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: were using, you know, with your buddies out on the 520 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: play loot started to come apart. Oh yeah, that's it, 521 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: now you pull it off. It was all sticky, yeah 522 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: the way down. Let's take forever to try to just unloose. 523 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, uh so, such nerds. But like this movie 524 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: just takes when. 525 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: I tell you, you know, in about a half hour, 526 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: because we got we had a lot of football to 527 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: get to you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you a 528 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: great story about the natural and something I did in 529 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: high school that I can't believe I did it, but 530 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: I did. But I'll tell uh So, everybody's mad at 531 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Apparently Tom Brady buying into the Raiders, having 532 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: an active role and also broadcasting for Fox is ruining 533 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: the sanctity of the National Football Oh you know, that's 534 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: my favorite terminology we use here on this show, Stern, Stern, 535 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: you have ruined the sanctity of this Last night, a 536 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: bridge too far from Many that Brady was shown on 537 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: a headset in the booth for the Raiders game against 538 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and there's been a lot of hubbub about this. 539 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: The NFL responded to that today by saying that Brady 540 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: did not violate any NFL rule by wearing the headset. 541 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: There is not any conflict of interest with Brady being 542 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: a broadcaster for Fox and getting inside information by owning 543 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: the Raiders and hearing what he hears for before a 544 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: game and using it to help the Raiders during a game. 545 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: The big rule for Brady, who's minority on for the 546 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: Raiders and a broadcaster for Fox, is he is prohibited 547 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: from going to a team facility for practices or production meetings, 548 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: but he sits in the coaches booth. According to the league, 549 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: he can be on zoom calls. And the big thing 550 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: that this comes down to is all the meetings you 551 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: have before games where the coaches tell you about things 552 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: going on with the team so you can use them 553 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: for the broadcast. Right, That's where it really comes down to, Oh, 554 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: Brady is cheating, Brad shitting. First thing I'm gonna tell 555 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: you is this, right, this is the biggest thing. Nobody 556 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: cares about this. The NFL was telling you, we don't care. Yeah, 557 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: Brady didn't do anything. Fans don't care about this. The 558 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: only people that care. Why this seems like it's a 559 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: big story is because there's sports writers and people in 560 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: the media who, for some reason, this is the the 561 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. They want to be haters 562 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: and they want to just drink that hater rate and 563 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: gulp it down and say, yeah, Brady can't do this. 564 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: He is ruining the National Football League. That's the only 565 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: reason this story is getting any sort of run is 566 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: because there's people in the media that just really think 567 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: this is the worst thing in the world. And I'll 568 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: tell you what, nobody cares. Yeah, I appreciate body. 569 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: The further he's gotten away from New England, we've gone 570 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: back to some semblance of rationality, normalcy, and decorum in 571 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: our discussions of Tom Brady. Now, if it goes back 572 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: and we play some highlights against the Jets, I can 573 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: see you start to get a little uneasy in the chair. 574 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: But where we're at right now, with Tampa Bay and 575 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: a couple of years of retirement, a bunch of trading 576 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: card shops that he's opened as a buffer, you're in 577 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: a better place. Related to Tom Brady conversation in this 578 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: vein look, I get it his history. You go back 579 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: and everybody starts talking about Spygate, everybody starts talking about 580 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: to flate gate, even though as they say to flate Gate, 581 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: they either start to giggle or they readily admit that 582 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: it's one of the dumbest things that's ever been part 583 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: of our lexicon in sports. 584 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: But we move on. 585 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: This would be another potential for chaos with Tom Brady involved, 586 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 4: and that's I think part of it is. All right, 587 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: they want it to be the next page, the next chapter, 588 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: the next paragraph on a Wikipedia page. In that regard, 589 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: he's not going into the facilities, so that does create 590 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: a little bit of a buffer, right, So he's not 591 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 4: walking into the building. And again I don't know if 592 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: people think he's gonna suddenly pull out one of those 593 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: little spot cameras from back in the day, or he's 594 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: got the medical. 595 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: I think you're going the wrong way if you want 596 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: to prove your point about spy No, no, no, only not 597 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: the right one to you know. 598 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is that I like, is that where. 599 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: The lunacy of being really upset about this is like, 600 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: that's what he's gonna do. He's gonna start walking in 601 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: and suddenly he's going into the shredder and he's taking it. 602 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: And now he's taping stuff back together in his home 603 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 4: that he lifts from the facility, or he's trying to 604 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: get out. 605 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 5: On the Hey, could you go get me a glass 606 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 5: of water? 607 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: And then he slips behind the desk, gets behind the 608 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: computer or starts, you know, faxing himself documents and scanning 609 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: stuff like. 610 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: Whatever. 611 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: The coaches are going to tell how much they really 612 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: give you every and even if. 613 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 7: They did giving you, but even if they did, but 614 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 7: even if they did go back to Greg Olsen, we 615 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 7: talked about it in the preseason, right he did a 616 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 7: Bears game and he made a reference about how much 617 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 7: they were gonna utilize and how much they love Luther Burden. 618 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: You know how much that's played out, not a damn 619 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: bit now, not years Luthor, He's invisible, no, So I mean, 620 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: if nothing else, it was a red herring at this 621 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: point of lying doing this is why nobody cares, and 622 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: every and and the and the media people that care 623 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: about this is overblowing it so much, okay, because the 624 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: big thing you're coming down to is that he's in 625 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: these meetings with the coaches before the week where they 626 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: tell you about things with the broadcast. Do you really 627 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: think these coaches are coming in saying, hey, no, Tom, 628 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: these are some secret things we're working on. We're do that, 629 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: or are they telling you flavor things for the broadcast? 630 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: And when they come up and by the time the 631 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Raiders would play anybody, they would see everything that was 632 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: on tape from that game. You'd see everything they tried 633 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: to do. Hey, they wanted to get the ball to 634 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: this guy. What Brady's gonna go? Hey, they said they 635 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: want to get the ball to this receiver at least 636 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: six seven times. Well, yeah, we saw the tape of 637 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: the game. They got it to him eight times. I mean, really, 638 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: you're not getting any You're not getting any event no one. 639 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: No one's coming in here and saying, hey, I will 640 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: tell you this, but don't tell anybody. Brady's not running 641 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: to the Raiders and saying this is what they like 642 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: to do. I think Brady can parse what's going on 643 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: in a football field pretty well. I think you see 644 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: the tape of the game, But no coaches are coming 645 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: in here and saying, hey, we're giving you all our seagnal. 646 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: But that's the thing right, Well, Kevin Burkhart and say, dude, hey, 647 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm a Mets and Jets fan. Tell me what this 648 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: team told you. So I could tell Aaron Glenn, I'll 649 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: call Kevin Burkhart. He's in the same meetings. So with 650 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, it's almost as if they there's 651 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: just a wanton disregard and disrespect for every other coach 652 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: and personnel person that Tom Brady would have interaction with 653 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: in the course of these meetings, Like they're all a 654 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: bunch of fanboys. 655 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: They're gonna say, here, Tommy, here's everything. 656 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Right. 657 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: No, this isn't a kid standing on the side of 658 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: the road asking for an autograph. 659 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: These are professionals. 660 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: It's Tom Brady. Okay, there's a respect to him, but 661 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: not gonna We normally don't do this, but because you're 662 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, like, here's our special plays on third down 663 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: that we might trot out. Just want you know, we're 664 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: gonna give you the inside dope. 665 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing? 666 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: And really, it's it's it's it's just media. Either it's 667 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: grudge media or it's I'm bored. I don't have anything else. 668 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about how this is ruining the game 669 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: right right? Okay, does it have a look that's a 670 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: little bit odd? Sure, But I mean, did anybody get 671 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: mad when the Colts owner was down on the sideline with. 672 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 5: A headset on and a play sheet. Nobody gave a damn? 673 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: So this is so much nobody cares about this story. 674 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Nobody does exit op by to Fresca, exit swallowing' dome. 675 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: Brady is fine, And it's not like it's helping the 676 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: raiders a rowing too, Like, really, how's it helping? 677 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 5: Well, what's he doing? Is he trying to submarine Gino Smith? 678 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: So people clamor for him to come out of the 679 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: booth and play quarterback. 680 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: He takes off the headset, he just rips his shirt. 681 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: He's got his jersey on under like Kareem and airplane. 682 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: They pull him out. 683 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: He's got his Laker jersey on. Ah, come on, get. 684 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: Back in there, Todd, Hey, really, Tom Brady's left the 685 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: booth head he's down on the sideline. 686 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 687 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 688 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. 689 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon. 690 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: Well Dressed Cobo. 691 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to check out our brand new YouTube channel 692 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: for the show. Just go to YouTube dot com slash 693 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: at Jason Smiths Show. That's YouTube dot com slash at 694 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Show. 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It took you had Eagles 704 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: players saying today that their blood is boiling. It's disrespectful 705 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: when people talk about banning the toush push. And look, 706 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: I've told you before, I don't care so much because 707 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: other teams are allowed to do it, they decide not to. Okay, 708 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: you want to talk about the safety of the play, Okay, 709 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: you can still do it if you. 710 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: Wanted to do. 711 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: At this point, you you've got no data to support 712 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: the safety thing, right, you're you're waiting that and you've 713 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: got that box, right, you put it in your spreadsheet. 714 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: You're waiting to get that first guy that you can 715 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 4: put down at sea. 716 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 5: He got he got hurt really badly and what did again? 717 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: He got a he got a face mask that scraped 718 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: across his arm. 719 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it counts. 720 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen had a broken nose. He came back in 721 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: right away, plays land Trubisky. It refers down on third 722 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: and seven. Okay, but like it's hey, hey, it's all time. 723 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Playoff leader mitched Trubisky to you found the leader. Leader Leader. 724 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: You've seen the last year and a half teams that 725 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: don't want the toush push, try to find a way. 726 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: What's going there? 727 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: They're pushing and prodding and saying, okay, what works right, 728 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Like when you when you're trying to prod the Jenga pile, like, okay, 729 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: what's the one what's the one block that's going to 730 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: move so I can grab it put it on top, 731 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: and oh, we're pushing with the safety thing. Safety things 732 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: not working. But if you want to ban it, what's 733 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: going on the last twenty four hours, this is what's 734 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 1: going to ban it? Because what has been the latest 735 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: the latest thing with the toush push after this past week, 736 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: after the Eagles use it a few times against the Chiefs. 737 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Look at how the Eagles are lining up offside, look 738 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: at how they get a jump on it. Look at 739 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: we'll get their their alignment or not lining up correctly. 740 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: And you have heard through officiating sources that the play 741 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: is very difficult to officiate. 742 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 5: The Dean Blandino and the quiet part out loud. 743 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: That is where if you want the tush push band, 744 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: that's what you have to look at and say officials 745 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: can't officiate it. You can't have a play that officials 746 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: can't look at and can't tell what's legal and not legal. 747 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: We can't have that. If you go down that road, 748 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna wind up getting the play banned, because then 749 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: you come with all kinds of instances and example saying here, 750 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: look right here, here's off sides, here's the two guards 751 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a forward momentum push. Here's 752 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: where the tackle is allowed to line up in this 753 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: spot you can and these are all things that are missed. 754 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: And you have Dean Blandie and others saying it's really 755 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: hard to officiate so while that part of it has 756 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: come out as hey, hey, hey, don't yell at us, 757 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: it's a hard play to officiate. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If 758 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: it's too hard to officiate, we can't really have it 759 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: because now you can't give a team incredible advantage when 760 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: they're skirting the rules on it. If this is just 761 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: we do it better than everybody else, Sorry, you're up 762 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: a creek without a paddle, right, If they do it better, 763 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: you can still do it if you want to. Right, 764 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: you've decided not to. Okay, I'm not gonna say that, 765 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: but if you but if it's now become where they 766 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: have an advantage because officiating they can't do it, that's 767 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: where that's what you can't. That's where that's what you push. 768 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what's gonna be fungible enough for you to say, Okay, 769 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: now we can really get some lamento behind, don't we 770 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: can't have the touch push ban. And maybe next year 771 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: when they look at things, it gets benned because that's 772 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: the evidence of pushes it over the time. Yeah, they 773 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: just needed a couple more votes this last round of it. 774 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: And look, we saw an x a number. 775 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: Of videos that got tagged right, by the NFL in 776 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 4: terms of impropriety of as, hey, you have no right 777 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 4: to redistribute that. So that was kind of an interesting 778 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 4: little twist to it. But we have the invisible line, 779 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: we get the all twenty two and everybody doing their 780 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: screen grabs and everything else, and it gets the chatter further. 781 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 4: You've got Dean Blandino, who is a former head of 782 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 4: officiating all of that, so his comments are certainly going 783 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 4: to add fuel to the fire. And when you get 784 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 4: down to it, you can make some of the other 785 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 4: arguments and back those up again of hey, why is 786 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: it legal for the offense to push? But defensively you 787 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 4: still lose the opportunity based on forward progress and all 788 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 4: of those kind of things that those are secondary the 789 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: officiating raising their hand and saying, hey, it's tough for 790 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: us to separate the pile, to spot the ball, to 791 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 4: do all of those things right, Because where's Jalen Hurts 792 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 4: really down trying to adjudicate that unless he's well into 793 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 4: the end zone. 794 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: Good luck. 795 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: And yes, I understand it's legal for the other thirty 796 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: one teams to try it, they haven't been able to 797 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: do it. 798 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 5: Do I want it outlawed? 799 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: No? 800 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 5: But certainly this week. Yeah, you found the legal loophole. 801 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: That's right. 802 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 4: I would send the lawyer lawyers to make the argument. 803 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 4: There's Lionel Huts go just hammer that home. I Linel 804 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 4: Huts attorney in law. 805 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: Coming up next to got more in the Natural and 806 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: we take a look at what big win from the week. 807 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: It's impossible to celebrate Fox