1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: It's a Thursday here in Pittsburgh. Steelers just finishing up 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: their Thursday practice a little bit ago. And uh, well 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: you got the injury report here. Deante Deante Johnson back 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: a full participant today after being limited yesterday with the 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: hip issue. Uh. They also got Levi Wallace in a 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: limited fashion. He's dealing with the concussion, but he is 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: part at least out there practicing. It's a good sign. Uh. 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Terrell Edmonds a full participant. He should be back this 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: week from the concussion. Uh. They also yesterday we announced 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: when we did the show that Pat Farnmouth did not practice. 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: He was Actually they corrected that later to say that 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: he was limited. Uh. He was limited again today. But 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: again that's a step in the right direction. Yeah. Um, 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: you still have to get cleared by the independent neurologist. 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: But at least you know that part of that practice session, 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: or at least some physical activity is part of working 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: your way back to playing. Um Cam Sutton with the 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: hamstring did not practice. The color Weatherspoon with the hamstring 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: did not practice. We'll see what happens with those guys tomorrow. 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: They did this last week with Sutton and he got 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: a limited in on on Friday and then ended up playing. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: So we'll see if he's able to do that again 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: this week. The question for you on Sutton, I mean 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: everyone raves about how football intelligence he is. Yeah, do 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: you think when in doubt that guy might not need 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: to practice will be fine? Yeah? Yeah, I think he's 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um make I 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick did not practice with the knee injury. Same thing 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: for Menca. He can go all we can not practice 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: and and still be ready to go morning Montrevious Adams 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: with the hip, was a full participant today. Umson Cole, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: though still with that foot injury, did not practice. He 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: was in a walking boot on Monday. He's got a 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: tough assignment. He's got a tough assignment. Maybe they feel like, 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, hey, we're gonna sit you this week and 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: maybe and I assume it would be Hosts not Green. Yeah, 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he has to sigment too though. Yeah, 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: that's a but I mean, as Mike Tomlin said, you know, 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: blocking Vidave is a four hands job. Yeah, I guess 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, if you're gonna double him all 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: day and make no bones about it, you might as 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: well put the healthy guy over. Yeah, and then Larry 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: Ogan job, he still at the back, did not practice. 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: We'll see where that goes. I assumed that would open 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: the door for louder Milk to at least get a hat. 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: At least get a hat. Yeah. The Buccaneers are not 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: without some injuries of their own. No, it's a long list, 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: right cameraon break with a concussion or tight end. He 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: was a full participant today. He still has to be cleared. 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Darden, Uh, he is a tooth. He's a tooth tooth. 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: He but he was a full But he didn't practice, Yester. 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: He did practice today, but he got the nose the 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: other day. Uh. Some man and knows. Yeah. Carlton Davis 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: with the hip was a participant, but Mike Edmund Edwards 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: one of their safeties as an elbow, he was limited. 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: Russell Gage not a big name guy, but he never 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: leaves the field. Right, He's missed like one snap all year. Yeah. 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Russell Gage with the ankle was a limited participant. William 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Golston did not practice. He's one of their starting Chris 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: Goblin with the hip and knee, did not participate for 64 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: second day in or. They Tho said his rest hip 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: needing rest. But he didn't practice yesterday and he'd been 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: playing much in the second half of the Sunday game. Either, 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: it makes you think he aggravated something. A. Keen Hicks, 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: the big defensive tackle he signed from the Bears, did 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: not practice. He didn't practice sestor either. He's got a 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: foot um, so that's that's trending in the wrong direction 71 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, he's a big space eater. I mean 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of defense tackles day like he's the nomen 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: con replacement. Hold everybody else up while the blitzers come. 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Just be big and powerful you uh. Julio Jones did 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: not practice. Sean Murphy Bunting with quad injury, did not 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: practice for the second day. At that's he's their nickel. 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: He's the nickel when he plays all the time. He's 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: a good player. Karl and the Cebe was back. He 79 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: was ill yesterday. Full participant Brashad Perriman assumed he would 80 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: take Goldson spot. If you know, they're kind of the same, 81 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: big base power end guy h Brashad Perriman with a 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: knee and hamstring didn't practice yesterday, did practice today, but 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: Logan Ryan with the foot injury, did not practice. Starting corner, right, Yeah, 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so you know there's a start they listen 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: as a safety. They use them all over as one 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: of those like CAZy types. Yeah, right. And then Donovan Smith, 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: their left tackle with an elbow injury, was limited again today. 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: That's a lot. I mean there are four receivers on 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: that list. Uh there are yeah, yeah, I mean Julio, 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's likely to go. So that's I'm 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: not sure who's worse off. Yeah, and some front line guys, 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: some guys on the back end starting with tackle, Yeah, 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: starting left tackle. It's banged up, so it's a it's 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Secondaries could be like um as we 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: often do when the Steelers play a team that they 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: don't play often. Let's go ahead and take a look 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: at the Buccaneers starting depth chart. Here at quarterback and 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: good team, you got Tom Brady at running back, Leonard 99 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: four Nette, Rashad White, Keyshawn Vaughan, um, who do you 100 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: give the edge too in that situation, Tampa, I guess 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: we don't even talk about quarterback. But that's kind of 102 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: not gonna talk about quarterback. One has one start and 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: one has eight hundred only three three. I looked it 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: up today. Okay, before back to the running back, So 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: before the season, I would have taken Steelers. Um, I 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: would rather hand the ball to four Nett than Harris 107 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: right now though, right now and White is coming on strong. 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean not that he's great. He doesn't get many carries. 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: He's a big receiving back. UM, an interesting player, but 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: he's getting more and more time. Yeah, so he's starting 111 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: to gain some trust. I'm assuming of TB twelve at wide, 112 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: see where it's Mike Evans, Russell Gauged, dart End, Godwin, 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: Brashod Perryman, Julio Jones, Scottie Miller is healthy too. Yeah, 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: he's not a player either. They have a lot of 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: receivers on the roster, A lot of receivers. Yeah, I 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: think Evans is still the number one if you're ranking 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: all the receivers in this game. Godwin's too. Deonte's three 118 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: pickings for play pool five, So I think I have 119 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to go Tampa. Yeah, it's it's a good group, reasonably close. 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah close, I mean the distance between I think here's 121 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the pickings could be Mike Evans, absolutely, I mean he 122 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: could have a very similar career with Mike Evans a 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: thousand yards of a year, be a touchdown maker number one. Absolutely. 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: It's just I've seen a lot more Evans just not there. 125 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it's not the Brady Pickett conversation, 126 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: but it's sort of. Yeah, tight end is breat Kate Dotton, 127 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: co Cleft and Kyle Rudolph Steelers. Yea Auton was impressive 128 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: last week when Bratt was out. They're they're excited about him, 129 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: but I much rather firemooth and you know, I mean 130 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely the Steelers. Uh it left tackle, it's 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: the aforementioned Donovan Smith it left guard, It's Luke Getkey, Uh, 132 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Robert Hainzi at center, Shack Mason at right guard, Tristan 133 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: Worf's at right tackle. Worse is the best player, yeah 134 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: fall on either team anything. Yeah, and then after that's 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty much because they have Worse. I'll give him 136 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: the nod, but that entire if people don't know this. 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: The entire interior of their line is ravaged from last year. 138 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Who was mar Pet retired? The center Jensen, who was 139 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: like the highest paid center league got hurt in minicamp 140 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I think or trading Camp. He's out for the year. 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: They traded for Mason Um. They drafted Gety, who they 142 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: didn't plan on playing. So there was another injury and 143 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to forget who. I'm trying to remember who 144 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: that was. Aaron Aaron Stinny and Josh Wells also got 145 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: hurt for them. Yeah, they're both on I R. Kim 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Heyward against Luke Gecky right right is a big, big 147 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: matchup in this game. We did a video today with 148 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Arthur Moates and I pretty much said we need Cam 149 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: Heyward to be the best player in the field, you know, 150 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean interior pressure is Brady's least favorite thing. I 151 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: mean again, I don't think he has got like these 152 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: huge weaknesses at the stage, but their interior is not great. 153 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: We've seen Cam be good but not the best player 154 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: on the field. But if he is, I think that 155 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: could be a big difference. Like I don't even know 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: if I if I would mess with putting Cam a 157 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: defensive end in this game. I absolutely would not. I 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,359 Speaker 1: just specially if Vod and Joby doesn't go or Adams 159 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: or you know, right right, all right, just go do 160 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: what you do. What you do, push that guy into 161 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's pocket, and we need you to be phenomenal. Yeah, 162 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: leave it all out there on this one. And then 163 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, worse is gonna He's gonna be a handful 164 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: for who no matter who they put on that six 165 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: thinks best. That's just that's just what it is. Um. 166 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, you need you need Cam Heyward. It would 167 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: be nice to have open job for this game, you know. 168 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a key you know, that would certainly 169 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: keep Hanzi from helping double Cam. Yeah, the two of 170 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: them could impact this game dramatically. Yeah, right. And another 171 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: key that we mentioned in that video was maybe it's 172 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: more of a different segment, but I want to dare 173 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: them to run because they're not good at it and 174 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: they don't like doing it. Um, So maybe i'd be 175 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: even in base personnel, I might have my nickel package 176 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: in there or so that puts more stress on your 177 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: defensive tackles. Though there's right stoppers, so I mean, you know, 178 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the primarily a three wide receiver team anyways. I mean 179 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: they don't have a fullback. No, No, you know they're 180 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: not going to see a lot of double tight ends, 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I think you're gonna see 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: a lot of nickel in this game. And if I'm 183 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: the if I'm the Buccaneers, I want the Steelers and 184 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: nickel anyways, looking at their injuries, right, you know, I 185 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: want I want to get I guess the way I 186 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: should have phrased it is, if you're gonna get a 187 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: eleven with three receivers on the field, maybe you play 188 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: a lot of dime begging them to run. But I 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you have enough to right, you're putting 190 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: six your six defensive if you're completely healthy, that's one 191 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: that's great if you're Casey and Spoon and you know, 192 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: all those guys. Um On the defensive side of things. 193 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: For the Buccaneers, the aforementioned Hicks, he's questionable for this game. 194 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: He's your left defensive end. Gholston is the right defensive end. 195 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Is that how they list him? Do they listed as 196 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: a three four? Yes? Okay? Um and then vyas the 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: nose tackle. Hicks isn't what he used to be and 198 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: doesn't play a ton of snaps. Um. He was on 199 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: the open market for a long time, so he may 200 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: be a more of a name than he is impact guy. 201 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: I guess I give it to the Steelers. I mean 202 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: to be honest, right now, vea Verse. Cam is not 203 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a slam donkey the way a year ago I thought 204 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: that was Cam clearly, and Um Veyo would be my 205 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: eighth best defensive tackle where Cam would have been three. 206 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: You know, Um would like to see more at Ogen 207 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Jobey to this point. But I don't think he's bad, right, 208 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: I think I go the Steelers there. Yeah, they've got 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: Logan Hall as a good young player the Steelers. The 210 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Steelers have the owl is a good you know, just 211 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of canceled each other out as well. They traded 212 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: out of the first round and took a call, I think, 213 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: with the first pick in the second round. He's not 214 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: a true defensive tackle. He's not. He's more like Gholston 215 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: than anything, right, right, pound guy that's super long armed, 216 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: lean long, you know, right, So he's not right, I mean, 217 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: total opposite. He's a big power end, which is the 218 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: guys they like the linebackers and we can actually look 219 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: at these linebackers versus linebackers. They got Joe try On 220 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: Shoenka at the week side, Devon White, Lavante, David in 221 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: the middle, Shack Barrett on the outside. He got to 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: give the nod without I don't think I mean, I 223 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: think try On Shyenka. I always say his name wrong. 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: Um is probably on par with high Smith. He was 225 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: a first round pick a year ago. Barrett's a really 226 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: good player as an edge. Um, he's better than any 227 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: of the Steeler edges at the moment. And that pair 228 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: of linebackers is great. I mean it's White has some 229 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: ups and downs, but that's a really good pairing. David 230 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: is the better linebackers. Contrary to popular popular belief, David 231 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: is the straw that stirs to drink. Yeah, he's the leader. 232 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: He's the green dot guy. He's the one that tells 233 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: White what do He's a big brother. Yeah. Uh. At 234 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: cornerback it's Jamal Dean and Carlton. Davis is the starting 235 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to bunch. Murphy Bunning is the nickel. Uh. They've got 236 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Ziam McCullum and d Delaney are the other guys out there. 237 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, they play Logan, Ryan Summit Corneryeah, he 238 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: was a corner um and then you know, so just 239 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: a project where he was a great tester coming out 240 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: and there's a mid round pick their top three. Hi 241 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: reminds me how I envisioned the Steelers top three in 242 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: camp in terms of there's no superstar, but they're all solid. Yeah. 243 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I would say that they're all bees. Where I looked 244 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: at the Steeler group and thought they were all B 245 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: minus C pluses, and now Steeler injuries has changed that dramatically, 246 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: So I think you gotta go corner to Tampa. Yeah. 247 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: The safety's Antoine Winfield, Mike Edwards Edwards questionable for this game, 248 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Logan Ryan and then Kian O'Neil. He isn't what he 249 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: used to be either. That's kind of a brand name guy. 250 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: He's bounced around the league too. Yeah. Um, that's a 251 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: good pair of safeties. Windfields very important to them, as 252 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: tough as could be. He'd be one of my favorite. Hey, 253 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: if you could add somebody the Steelers, I'll be like, oh, 254 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: I'll take Winfield doing and he's really easy to root for, 255 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: like his dad was. I'll take the Steelers narrowly though, 256 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: especially with Edmunds coming back this right right, right one, Yeah, 257 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: that makes a big difference. And Edwards being questionable. I 258 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: mean he's not a big name guy, but he's very 259 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: important for them because he does a little bit everything 260 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: and is never leaves field. Yeah, Ryan being questionable as well. 261 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean Murphy, Bunning and Ryan, Murphy Bunning, Ryan and 262 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Edwards all being questionable, right right. I mean they put 263 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot of stress on their secondary blitz like crazy. 264 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: They play a lot of man um, They ask a 265 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: lot from their secondary, and I'm sure the Steelers will 266 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: keep that secondary in Nickel and dime too. Yeah. I mean, 267 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you're gonna try to 268 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: power Vida Vea in that group as much as you 269 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: want to throw the ball against these guys. This is 270 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: an interesting second matchup for Kenny Pickett because this team 271 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: blitz is Buffalo, doesn't blitz the play and the complete 272 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,239 Speaker 1: opposite of what you just faced last week. And there's 273 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: probably two of the best five defenses in the league. 274 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: They just go about it different, right right. Their defensive 275 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: linemen are different shapes there, what they ask the linebackers 276 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: is different. The scheme couldn't be any more different. So yeah, 277 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: that's a big key for me. I did a podcast 278 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: today saying I'm really cited pick it of course at 279 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: the top of the list. How does this young offense 280 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: handle a lot of blitz and and not even being 281 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: under pass rush pressure. That's not even necessarily what I mean. 282 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, come in the line, right, that guy like Pickens, 283 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: who's the youngest. I'm not picking on Pickets or Pickens, 284 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: but does he know to run the right hot route, 285 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, and recognize things together? Just you see Picket 286 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: gesturing at the line going, you know, pick this guy 287 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: up and change the plays things like that, you know, 288 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: and you're in your own building. It shouldn't be loud. 289 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, so I think that would be a big 290 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: test for that, honestly to me, in that situation, if 291 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: they're if they're showing that, I'm just telling you, go along, Yeah, 292 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it up where you get down to 293 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: get down the field. We we hit those a couple 294 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: of those and you get him out of I mean, 295 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: especially if it's Pickings, I mean, not Deonte justine to 296 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: but if you know you've won on one, yeah, if 297 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna show zero or just one safety in the 298 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: middle of the field, I'm gonna toss it up to him, 299 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean you have to hold along. It 300 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: could be fifteen yards. Let him go get it. Yeah, yeah, 301 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's a picking specialty. I like that. And 302 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, I mean Dean and Carlton Davis are both 303 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: bigger cornerbacks, but he's still bigger. He's still bigger and 304 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: better in the air and all that stuff. I mean, 305 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: let him go be big, you know. Uh so, I 306 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: you know I would attack that that way if it 307 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: was me. Um, now, maybe that doesn't work every time again, 308 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, right, you know, you know, I mean it's 309 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: something he does well. And if he shakes, he shakes 310 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: them off and he starts. You know, he's running down 311 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the sideline for a touchdown. That's okay. I mean even 312 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: if it's a ten yard game, twenty yard game, you're 313 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: just plucking it over their heads. Yeah. Absolutely, And he's 314 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: shown he's capable of doing that. Um, this isn't a team. 315 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: I know everybody talked about he get attacked the middle 316 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: of the field. Tack the middle field. This isn't a 317 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: team you want to attack the field. It's not a 318 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: big friar day, it's not a big Claypool day. But 319 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: probably you know, you want to stay away from Winfield. 320 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: You want to stay away from from Lavonte, David, from 321 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Devin White, and they're they're strong up the middle, they 322 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: really are. I hadn't thought of that as much, but 323 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: you right, David so smart. You know, he'sn't recognized all 324 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: the rop He's Tom Brady on the other side of 325 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: the ball. I don't want. I don't want. I don't 326 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: want Kenny Pickott playing chess with Lavonte, David right and White. There. 327 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: It's a bad comparison because it sells Troy short. But 328 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: it's almost like David is the Ryan Clark and Troy 329 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: is the White where hey, if you freelance a little, 330 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: we'll let it slide because you make special plays, you know, 331 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: and and White will be all over the place. But 332 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: because of David, he can. Yeah, it's it's it's an 333 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: interesting defense. I mean, I think I do think the 334 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: way that you beat them is on the outside. Though 335 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: those those outside corners aren't bad, but there be players, 336 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: especially you know, especially if with if Edwards isn't out there, 337 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: he's the free you know, I don't know who they 338 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: put out there free. He's a real smart guy to 339 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: a communicator, you know. So, I mean he's Kiana Neil 340 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: gonna give you that. He's more of a strong too. Yeah, 341 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they would do there. Yeah, I'm 342 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: not sure. And Ryan couldn't him pinch but he's injured, right, 343 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: but he's too So I want to see if those 344 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: guys can cover that ground. Yeah, maybe they don't with 345 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: as much. I don't know. That would be completely outside 346 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: the norm for that is really especially in third and 347 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: longs or second longs, No doubt about it. I think 348 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: the steel is a much success on the ground. I 349 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: think they'll have some. Okay, I think they'll have some. 350 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: You know this again, this is a three or four 351 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: defense that likes to get up the field. Um, can 352 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: you run outside zone against these guys? That's been the 353 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: steel and cut back that's been the bugaboo for the 354 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Steelers for since I've been covering them. Yeah, right, right right. 355 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's a good run defense to watch and historically, 356 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: but on paper it hasn't been right. Atlanta ran on 357 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: them a lot of a lot of teams just don't 358 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: even try to run on teams like that out of well, 359 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: they get the recipitation yeah right. I mean, but I've 360 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: seen that routine before. I kind of bringing it up. 361 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: I think you have to I don't think you can 362 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: get behind the line of scrimmage and stop your feet. 363 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: I think you have to hit it and go right right, 364 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: and the Whites of the world are gonna end up 365 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: in the backfield. Qu right, You're gonna You're gonna get 366 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: run down quickly. This is great. Like, I'm not suggesting 367 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: they shouldn't run at all. I'm just I'm not sure 368 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: what my expectations are for the Steel running game in 369 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I mean, especially coming off of what well, 370 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they really get couldn't try to run all 371 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: that much and blame them for not running well in 372 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: the second half or fairly running on the second half. 373 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, the Jets game, they should have run in 374 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: the second half. They should have continued to run. Yeah. Um, 375 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think they've They've made some strides. This 376 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be a big league game for the offensive line. Um, 377 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, we've we've talked about the strides they made. 378 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: This team is going to test you up front. Yeah, 379 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, without question wise, do you have do you 380 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: figure out who's coming and who's not, and they got 381 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot of beef. They're powerful front, so yeah, I 382 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: mean they're kind of built to stop the run then 383 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: blitz like crazy and you know, and they do it well. Yeah, 384 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: but both teams are very banged up. Um, we'll see 385 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: where that goes tomorrow as we continue to take a 386 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: look at that injury report. H big one, big one 387 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: for both teams. In terms of that, Um, it's it's uh, 388 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's just the reality of where we're at 389 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: in the season now five weeks into this and sort 390 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: of like the Steelers, it looks like they're injuries are 391 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: clustered a little bit too, a little bit. It's funny 392 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: how that works. I know that that's really haunted them 393 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: because at a line and receivers. Now it's receivers and vvs. 394 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: So we'll see. You can subscribe to the Mike Tomlin 395 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: Game Day broadcast, the Steelers Digest editor Bob Labriola talks 396 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: with head coach Mike Tomlin about the upcoming game. 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