WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Does Winning Matter? 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.360 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:19.439 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, blowing out of the backfield, 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:24.760 exploding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.120 presented by Wing Stuff, where Flavor gets its wings. Now 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:38.400 your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Tuesday, 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.880 let's go hanging with the Boys. Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.520 We're natelst today. Oh we got Jesse in the big chair, 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:51.160 the big Fellas chair. You're looking live at Tostitos Championship 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.840 Plaza outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. It 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.960 is eighty five degrees. It feels like ninety one. We 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.800 have a high today of ninety eight. The load tonight 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.120 seventy six. It's a beautiful Texas. Is it fall yet 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.040 or is it still considered summer? Still summer? Still summer. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:13.040 We got practice outside today at eleven fifteen, um, but 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.520 you could join us. Yeah, I had to. I was 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.160 running out priorities here man, running down the hall to 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.360 get here on time. I'm behind in life right now, 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.440 so not only this show, but in life in general. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.080 So how are you guys, feeling good. I feel great. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.520 We got our our friend Nate is uh he mentioned 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.319 last show He's he's big time just today to go 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.920 hang out with be interviewed for a John Madden documentary, 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.280 The Life Right is the in the NFL Network on 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.160 for the Life Story What just called whatever football? Yeah, 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.720 so our guy Nate will be making an appearance in 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.880 that hopefully. Are you a Madden fan growing up playing 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.400 all that? No? No, no, like I've watched I enjoy 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.640 watching him in past summer. I'll do their thing. But yeah, um, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.720 the moment Michael Vick entered the Matten realm when I 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.200 stopped playing video games really because it was just Chico. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.040 My friends would always like he would always my best 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.880 friend always pick at Lanta and get Michael Vick and 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.240 he would snapped the ball and this run fifty yards 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.680 one way and everyone's chasing him and then he'll just 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.760 he was like Michael Vick was to Madden what Bo 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.080 Jackson was to Tech my bawl. Right, it was like 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.560 just not fair. Yeah, not fair at all. You're a 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.320 video game guy. Were you a maddened guy? Uh? In 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.120 the very beginning and then now I don't really I 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.359 kind of got out of sports games for some reason. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.200 I don't know. I just got enough football in your life. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.679 It's really weird. Like when I started working here, Like 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:44.240 I am not a huge football fan. I love the Cowboys, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.840 I love my job, I love what I do, and 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.320 I love game days. But outside of that, like I 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.200 can take or to leave football, like when I have offtime, 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.000 like if if last thing I want to do is 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.320 go watch more football, like go watch Monday night, but 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.919 now I'll go do it if like everybody's going to 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.200 do it and it's a social event, but like just 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.520 hardcore sit down and watch games and analyze them, like 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.400 like I do that sixty six days a week when 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.680 I got to college. That's I kind of was like 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.840 on that and I never understood. I'm like, we just 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.200 finished practicing. You guys want to come in here and 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.799 play NT double A. Yeah, It's just I'm just like, yeah, no, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.720 thank you. Yeah. I'm the same as I love video games, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.080 but I've gotten out of the sports even Like I 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.680 don't even like NBA two K or FIFA or any 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.400 of that. Like I'm more into other things. It kind 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.000 of amazes me, though, that players get into their ratings 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.920 was that a thing when you were egos? I was 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.600 gonna say, that's a total ego thing. Ego. That's just 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.960 like salaries. It's like, okay, wait, I'm better than him. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.240 He's making how much more than me? Now, next contract, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.320 I'm yeah, Like you'll see the contract. I'm like, I 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.240 just want to make one hundred dollars more than him. Like, 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.240 it doesn't have to be some crazy amount. I just 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.400 have to say that my contract is better or bigger 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.160 than it's. Oh, the Eagles, the Eagles, and you guys 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.640 know the Eagles in these locker rooms are are out 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.640 of this. We've said it on this show before and 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.480 we'll bring it up again. Nate sent us some pictures 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:17.159 if y'all have it. Look, that's awesome. Um, we've said 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.480 it on the show before. But but professional athletes are 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.520 some of the most delicate people in the world when 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.320 it comes to getting feelings hurt. And and you know 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.320 why is that, Jesse, Because we've been catered to our 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.680 entire lives. Yeah, we've we've been told, Yes, we've been had, 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.880 We've had the red carpet rolled out. Um, we've had 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.720 rules bent, anything and everything that is supposed to go 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.840 on our favor has gone in our favor because of 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.440 our ability to play a game. Play a game. That's it. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.120 That is it. I mean there were times in high 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.119 school I would sleep every day in Spanish class unless 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.360 I lost the football basketball game. I lose. Hey, hey, hey, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:10.440 wake up. I win z's all day. I can sleep, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.720 I can strule, snore, never had an issue. Did you 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.760 make an A B B? Yeah, you can't make it 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.360 two two two obvious? Too obvious? Can you speak Spanish? No? 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.880 It's like that Jimmy Johnson story when the fullback fell 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.160 asleep in the meeting and they cut him, and they 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.920 asked them in the press conference, what happens if Troykeman 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.480 fell asleep in the meeting? He goes, well, we get 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:39.560 him a pillow. All right, let's talk some current events. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.680 Little news came out, used to fall asleep in meeting? 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.200 What you get a pillow? What? DEAs? Oh yeah, are 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:51.440 you comfortable a blanket? Pill you feed up here? Das 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.200 enjoy these z's, you know, can't if you know the playbook. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:55.599 On Sunday, we're gonna to throw it up to you. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.960 Just hit that nine route. Yeah, let go get it. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.240 Still get it? So little news came out yesterday. Yes, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.480 little little, little little a little scary. I don't know, scary, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.880 but a little it's convenient. Yes, that's a great word 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.520 and a little worrisome at this point. And I guess 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.560 this point in the season because little COVID outbreak has 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.360 has hit the team or I didn't really read did 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.400 anyone test positive or these just day in protocol? How 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.600 today I think they all tested positive. They're all vaccinated 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.800 from my understanding, but um, they all tested positive, which 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.760 is why they're in it now. And it was well 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:39.400 Dan Quinn and Carlos Watkins at the game, and then 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:49.080 yesterday it was ceedee lamb Israel move uuamaquam sorry yeah, sorry, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:55.840 and then um Nates not even here. Um, we got 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.080 your back, Nate trying to blank on the last guy. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.520 But there's there's five totals. Totals okay, and so they are. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.040 But you know, I think that the worry for me 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:11.160 at least is that we've already you know, talked about 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.360 how this training camp there's been a lot of rest days. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.040 They haven't had to work dak press atta minum got 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.720 in the field, that sort of thing. And now you're 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.480 throwing this into the mix where And I don't honestly know. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.560 It sounded like from his press conference yesterday that McCarthy 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.200 said they were having to do some things virtually meetings, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:31.440 and so you know, this is just one more inconvenience 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.520 that they've got to deal with as they try to 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.640 prepare for this season. Malik Hooker was the other guy. Yes, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.440 thank you, thank you, Malik Hooker. So yeah, I guess 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.680 the big thing for me out of it is it 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.720 looked like we were finally getting back to somewhat normal 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.480 scene around the facility on game days. You know, obviously 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.200 there were still a lot of protocols and a lot 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.480 of safety measures on the field and in the stadiums 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.080 and you know, around here, and it felt like you 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:04.240 were getting closer to being back to normal. And then 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.160 you know, this season there would probably be safety precautions, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.120 but then maybe next season, Hey, we're back to somewhat 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.280 of a normal society. You know. And to me, this 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.720 is not just about football, it's kind of society in general. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.080 You know, how do we get back to normal? How 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.840 do we how at what point do does this just 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.280 become part of everyday life where it's like the flu 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.880 and it's just something that we live with or you know, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.920 I don't think it's going away. You know, there's all 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.280 this stuff up in the air, but you know now 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.400 and we've kind of stayed away from it. We were 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.839 one of the teams that didn't have any positive cases 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.080 during training camp or any of that stuff. And then 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.360 all of a sudden, it's like, oh wow, on game 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.160 day it hits, and now it's three more what three 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.600 more guys after that? So then it's like, okay, does 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:53.760 this make us as a league? Is this going to 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.480 pause and even maybe go backwards a little bit as 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.240 far as precautions. But I think the big thing, the 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.199 big concern is, you're, what two weeks week and a 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.200 half now from opening well, two weeks I guess from 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.800 two weeks from in two days right, two weeks from Thursday? 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:16.199 How does this Because this still affects people in different ways. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.760 Some people don't have many symptoms, some people that it's 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.079 lingering for a while. You've got now, you've got some 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.760 key role players that are gonna play on that opening 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.680 night that are now in this protocol. You know, how 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.319 worried are you? Jesse? You know overall that this is 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:41.320 going to affect Opening night. From a players standpoint, everyone 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:50.000 should be worried. I think coaching staff, players, equipment staff. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:10:00.680 Because one positive from a trainer, right, Jim Mayer, test positive? 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:06.600 What your marra interacts with just about every single player, right, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:11.080 Bucky Brooks about Bucky Brooks. But but Bucky right, test positive? 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.720 And how many players go back to get stuff? Bucky 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.800 a coach, right, if he tests positive, you're talking about 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.480 the entire room that the coaches might be put on 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.840 this protocol and being it now the game was on 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.520 a Thursday and not a Sunday, you kind of actually 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.360 lose days to even have that. If you had a 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.000 positive on Monday, you had to wait five days. At 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.560 least you get to Saturday and you said, all right, 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.280 we can we're clear. But on the Thursday you put 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.400 yourself in more of a very peculiar situation. I think 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:47.440 this biggest thing with with this COVID is that we 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.079 get to a point where we're beginning to relax, right, 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.240 and and COVID says, hello, I'm still here. Still, I'm 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.280 still here, right, And so this is this is the 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.080 new normal, right right, going back to what we used 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.240 to think was this is the new normal. You asked 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.160 the question, when will we get back when hospital stopped 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.680 being full to capacity, when people stop dying at a 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.400 rapid rate from from this, when you know this thing 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.640 has taken a serious and significant turn. We thought by 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.880 now that we would be back to a new normal. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.920 But and it's like, hey, you know what, Now we 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.280 got COVID twenty two, you got variance coming out of this. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.320 And before it was just hey, it's just really attacking 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.199 the old and the elderly. And it was it was 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.560 just attacking the old, elder elderly and those who were 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.760 you know, out of shape. But now you're seeing people 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.520 our age thirty eight, forty forty five, younger, people who 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.120 are in shape, you know, are being affected by this virus. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:57.079 And so it's very worrisome because the moment we relax, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.480 the moment of player relaxes, and as you know, I'm 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.640 gonna go to this event or I'm gonna have these 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.760 folks over at my house on a Wednesday on a Thursday, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.679 and they come back and they do their weekly tests 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.760 and it comes up positive because even if you're vaccinated, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.559 it's five days. Yeah, that's what the bills are going 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:21.120 through this today. That their trainer was came up he 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.480 was fully vaccinated, became up positive. Well, Cole Beasley and 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.720 some other guys were around him. They has to negative. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.080 But you know Beasley isn't is vaccinated vaccinated, so he 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.960 has to spend five days away from the team. So 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.520 it's yeah, it's so all this time that you're losing, 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.480 whether that be meeting time, practice time, or in the 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.120 event that you actually have to miss a game. This 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.920 isn't the NBA. You don't get eighty whatever it is. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.920 This isn't the MLB. When you get one hundred and 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.920 sixty of these bad boys, you get seventeen yea and 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:55.560 they count so much every single week, and you kind 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.760 of want to have all your soldiers fitting ready to 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:03.080 go about time, you know, September ninth gets here and 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.880 and you want to have that every single week. But 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.840 you just this thing is so unpredictable. It is so unpredictable, man, 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.560 and I just I don't know. It's it's something that 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.960 we just can't relax on. We have to remember that 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:20.559 this thing is real, it is here, and from a 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.040 analyst and media perspective, we want all our guys to 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.880 be out there and playing at full capacity. But it's not. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.680 It's not almost a matter of if, it's just when 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.400 when When are we gonna get hit with something? Because 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.920 everybody's gonna be everybody's gonna get hit with this when 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.280 and what and what group or what position? And how 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.959 many and how many right? And how often? Like does 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.520 it is it? You know? One time? Is this it? 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.320 Or will you know? Will this happening again? Because I 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.200 can guarantee you this, It's gonna take a cold day 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.320 in hell for the NFL to shut back down again. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.839 I'm telling you we can sit here and say how 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.520 much the NFL care and how much this and this 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:06.720 and this. It will be a brisk, cold day in 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.080 hell before the NFL goes back to no fans in 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.240 the stands. There was so much money that was lost 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.640 last year, and the NFL is all about the bottom dollar, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.320 so they're gonna do anything and everything. Hence why you 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.080 see some of the rules that hey, if you guys 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.840 aren't vaccinated and you miss games or you cause a forfeit, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.960 your team, your owner is on the hook for salaries, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.240 for revenue for all of that for both teams. Because 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.080 the NFL saying, oh we are about our dollars. These 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.120 owners are about their dollars. This bottom line is it, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.160 and nothing gets in Nothing gets in front of that, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.960 not health, not you, not your family. So they're not 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.200 shutting this thing down. They're going to be fans in 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.760 the stands this year at every single game. They ain't 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.440 shutting that down. So Gary tweeted us. You know, he 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.000 sees there's no way this team gets enough snaps in 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.840 practice now to be ready. And you gotta think McCarthy's like, 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.520 what I gotta do here, man, We're kind of getting 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.680 my quarterbacks are do you what you think I mean? 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.920 Are they going to be ready for this two weeks? 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.400 You know what, Let's talk about that table. Let's let's 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.160 go to first break. Let's talk about that, and then 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.080 let's talk about the debate that I've been having with people. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:32.840 My opinion is people that don't no football. Jesse played football. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.720 You can tell me if my opinion means anything or not. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.200 But I have been having a debate with several different 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.000 people that think we have to win a preseason game. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.240 Would it be nice to me? Yes? Like? Is it 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.880 absolutely necessary? No? Like? And as an employee the Cowboys, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.160 I want to win every game. Sure, because that helps 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.200 us out right. That helps us, that helps our partners, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.440 that helps our fans. But the debate is my look 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.960 at it is like it's preseason. It does not matter. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.400 But there are people that are arguing with me that 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.320 are like it does matter. So Jesse, as someone that 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.720 played the game, when we come back, I want to 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.400 know your opinion. All right, We'll talk about Cooper Rush, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.000 We'll talk about will this team be ready, and so 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.720 many more things. When we come back, I'll hanging with 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.320 the boys. Honey, big news, Gary? Are you okay? Oh? 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.800 I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.920 want the latest smartphone, but the best deals are only 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.000 for new customers. So to get a new customer deal, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.200 I change my name to Jackie Flash. Okay, But the 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.600 best smartphone deals at AT and T are for everyone, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.520 new and existing customers. That's huge. Then guess who's getting 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.240 the deal? Is it Jackie Flash, Jackie Flash? 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Yeah, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.720 it's our training camp preview, which we know training camps. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.960 We're well into it now, just about over in fact. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.439 But if you want scattering imports and all the players, 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.359 some of our writers, previews and predictions of what's going 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.760 to happen, it's definitely want to check this out. Go 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.880 to Dallas Cowboy dot com slash Star and you can 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.240 either get the print version or we have a digital 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.000 version and get right away. So check it out, check 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.120 it out. And I know a lot of you are 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.720 a few of you have hit me up through DMS 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.680 and or the phone is ringing off the hook back 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.840 in the uh the phone is ringing back there with Chris. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.760 We're not going to take calls today because we're going 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.679 to get out of here about fifteen minutes early. But 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.800 we will take calls soon because this is a show 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.560 of the people for the people. So you, guys, we 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.640 will take calls. The other show does that a lot. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.920 I think they kind of mail it in sometime. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.760 we take calls and we care. We care. If you've 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.520 if you've ever seen me out at training camp or 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.480 practice or at a game, you know that I care. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.359 I love you, guys. I love each and every one 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.480 of you. We all love you. You make us the 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:43.000 number one show on the on the Cowboys Network. It's 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.600 all because of you, guys. So continue to say hi 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.879 to us in public when you see us. Continue to 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.679 shout us out from a distance, though from a distance 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:55.400 a social, social least safe distance. Um, but yeah, we will. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:20:00.320 We will take calls soon. So um, Kurt, I'll ask 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:04.359 you first, are you gonna chew that gum the entire show? Probably? 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:13.480 I don't ever chew gum god spots, Maybe it could be. Sorry, 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.320 I didn't even I didn't even realize I was doing. 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:20.520 I was like, okay, so I'll stop. I'll stop That's 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.919 why I don't ever chew Gum. I'll stop. Um, they 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.760 probably pop out of my mouth. He's gonna ask a 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:34.120 question and stick on the stick on the microphone phone. Oh, Kurt, 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.160 I'll ask you first, since Jesse, Jesse, I think has 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.000 more a little more weight on this subject. But do 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.800 you think preseason matters? Well? Yeah, it matters, Um for 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:50.160 many reasons. Um, do you think wins and loss? I'm sorry, Yeah, 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:56.080 wins and loss. That's a tough one. I like to say. Yes. Now, 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.520 I think that, like again she Houston, our starters play 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.040 that whole game, we win, you know, our our depth 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.399 comes in the seton guys in the second half fighting 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.399 for roster spots and we lose, So that that definitely 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.880 makes a difference. Um, But I don't know. I hate 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.040 to go winless in the preseason. I think for the 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.439 culture you're trying to build, you want to be winning culture. 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.840 That all goes into it. I guess the argument is 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:25.399 if you're starting unit is playing well and they're you know, 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.240 making progress, and they're winning the first half, I guess, 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:34.240 and then then you're good. But Kurt, I wants matter? 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.119 Do they you want to win? But matter? But Do 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.239 they matter? Um, all right, Jesse, never mind, Kurt's going him. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.639 They having their place. I think that you know. Do 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:50.720 they matter? Yes? Okay, thank you, thank you, Jesse. Yes 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.360 they matter. Yes. When they they don't, when they stop 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.680 keeping score, then they won't matter. Winning is a habit 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.359 built okay, And if you accept losing and losing it 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.920 is okay. Now, you might not start throwing things after 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:12.199 a preseason game loss, but it feels better when you win. 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.280 You're able to cheach better when you win, You're able 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.479 to see more of the positives when you win. Winning 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:24.480 is a form built habit, and when you don't take 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:32.240 winning serious at any level practice, preseason, game, scrimmages, then 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:39.120 you're building a habit of losing. Losing mentality, losing thought process, 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:45.719 all of that. These guys practice not anymore, but they 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:51.920 work way too harder every single week in practice to 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.480 not go out there and do what they're supposed to do. Now, yes, 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:56.879 you have to break it up and say, well, if 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.840 our starts would have played the entire time, we probably 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.639 would have won. But you like seeing at the end 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.920 of the game your team with more points than the 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:09.000 other team. It's it's it's a feeling that it's I 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:13.040 can't explain it, and and I don't want to be 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.000 the guy like unless you're out there doing it. Guys 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.560 want to win all the time. That's just a competitive 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.440 nature of what it takes to get to a level 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.160 like these guys are at right now, m at this level. 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.560 So to me, winning is always important, it's all. It 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.200 always matters because when you're not winning, that means you're losing. 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.439 Anytime you're losing and you and you're comfortable with losing, 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:36.960 then that means you're building a habit in your mind 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.600 and your your work ethic of losing is okay? Is it? 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.960