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Speaker 2: How a youself?
Speaker 1: What is it you want to talk about today?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I have kind of a peculiar situation with
Speaker 2: a friend that I've known for a while. I want
Speaker 2: to see how you thought about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So again, this is a friend of known since
Speaker 2: I was. Basically he was next to me growing up
Speaker 2: to be hung out all the time, and actually went
Speaker 2: to the same college, and he had confided in me
Speaker 2: about my sophomore year so a few years ago that
Speaker 2: he is like only getting off to when he's with
Speaker 2: females or with whoever he is with, from like children cartoons.
Speaker 1: Say that again, So when he is.
Speaker 2: Like having relations with people like that, he's in the
Speaker 2: end of the bedroom, he can only get off to like
Speaker 2: children cartoons, like in his own mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so when he's having sex with somebody,
Speaker 1: when he's having sex with somebody, he can only get
Speaker 1: off thinking about children's cartoons or is it like are
Speaker 1: the cartoons? Are the cartoons themselves children?
Speaker 2: Uh no, So it's not anything like pedophilia per se,
Speaker 2: but like a couple examples, like I have a few
Speaker 2: of them that he came to me, where like like
Speaker 2: the movie Cars, like Lightning, a Queen Eva from Wally,
Speaker 2: like Tour Story, he like the Mary Jane like stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Wait, so you're telling me that your friend,
Speaker 1: when he's having sex with somebody, he can only get
Speaker 1: off if he thinks of Lightning with Queen from Cars, basically, yes,
Speaker 1: Well he sounds.
Speaker 2: Awesome, he sounds he's a good guy. But I just
Speaker 2: kind of like weirded out by the situation.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm. Why why does that weird you out?
Speaker 2: Uh? Because like, uh, it's it's more like when like
Speaker 2: guys are having a guy talk, you know, where a
Speaker 2: group of friends something. He'll not saying this, but it's
Speaker 2: only when like we're alone and he's trying to talk
Speaker 2: about it, and he brings it up quite frequently, like
Speaker 2: at the moment he has a girlfriend, and it's just
Speaker 2: kind of awkward.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a level your is your your friend? I mean,
Speaker 1: is he fucking with you?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Like I think he's like fully
Speaker 2: serious because he'll go into depth with this stuff.
Speaker 1: What makes you think he's not fucking with you?
Speaker 2: Uh, the fact that it's like it's not like a
Speaker 2: one time thing. I feel like if he's fucking with me,
Speaker 2: it would be like, oh, he said it, and then
Speaker 2: he'll kind of joke about it. But like it's been
Speaker 2: multiple times, like like multiple multiple times, or he he's
Speaker 2: come up to me and talked about this.
Speaker 1: I So, are you sure he's not like just really
Speaker 1: fucking with you.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think so. He's not that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Like he's a very kind of like sweet kid, and
Speaker 2: he's kind of a little awkward. But I don't think
Speaker 2: he's fucking with me, and that's what kind of has
Speaker 2: been driving me away from our friendship. And I feel
Speaker 2: like he wouldn't throw away the friendship for fucking with
Speaker 2: me like this.
Speaker 1: Mh Is it only like that? Who is it only
Speaker 1: give me some more characters?
Speaker 2: Okay? So, like I was saying, it's like Eva from
Speaker 2: Wally Okay, Mary Jane from Toy Story, It's like the
Speaker 2: little sheep herder girl.
Speaker 1: Oh a little do you mean little bo Peep?
Speaker 2: Is that her name?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah her, it's Ice Age Ellie, like the Manny's girlfriends,
Speaker 2: the woolye mammoth tigers from Kung Fu.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, the female the female wooly mammoth from Ice Age? Yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I ever seen shark Tails or shark Tail?
Speaker 1: Okay? The girl from shark Tails? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: girl from shark Tails kind of hot. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've seen that kind of hot? Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: get that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one, that one I kind of get but
Speaker 2: like the mammoth is a little kind of threatening or
Speaker 2: not for any but scary, like even a little scary.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Uh, Mammoth the tiger from Kung Fu Panda.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Now your your friend. He's bisexual, he is street Okay.
Speaker 2: It's it's mostly female characters, but like I said, it
Speaker 2: started with Lightning the Queen and it kind of like
Speaker 2: evolved from there.
Speaker 1: Now these are all three D animated characters. He's not
Speaker 1: into any like pure cartoon.
Speaker 2: No, I don't believe. So he hasn't brought any of them,
Speaker 2: is up?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: He also said he was very excited for the new
Speaker 2: Super Mario movie. And I can understand why.
Speaker 1: U what Princess Peach, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2: I don't really know and all the characters, but he
Speaker 2: really wants to see you with me.
Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like we think it's Prese. I feel
Speaker 1: like we think it's Princess Peach, but actually he's gonna
Speaker 1: pull his penis out when Bowser comes on the screen.
Speaker 1: I think that's it.
Speaker 2: I could do that.
Speaker 1: Powerful characters, okay, but.
Speaker 2: I feel like it was just powerful characters he would
Speaker 2: be more into, not like children cartoons. I feel like
Speaker 2: it'd be like actual people or actual like uh, like
Speaker 2: movies or stories of fictional characters that are you know,
Speaker 2: big and powerful versus these you know, like animals and
Speaker 2: toys and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the characters that you just listed do
Speaker 1: have you know, undeniable sexual energies to them? Lightning McQueen, confident,
Speaker 1: charismatic Eve, Uh, you know, a caretaker, the very supportive
Speaker 1: ah that we already covered, the girl from Shark Tales.
Speaker 1: So let's not pretend like we don't understand where your
Speaker 1: homie is coming from. Okay, let's level with him on that. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: tell me more about why this is just serving to you.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's kind of in the confides of
Speaker 2: just when him are hanging out so like our boy time,
Speaker 2: you know, playing games or like playing Xbox stuff like that,
Speaker 2: it always turns into this conversation. It's always brought up
Speaker 2: pretty frequently. Yeah, So I'm not really sure how to
Speaker 2: digress from that conversation and more of him having these
Speaker 2: like in depth of his sexual experiences while thinking of
Speaker 2: these characters when it happens.
Speaker 1: My thing with and this is more of your friend's
Speaker 1: issue than yours is. Look, I think there's a fine line,
Speaker 1: a major difference between being sexually attracted to Lightning McQueen
Speaker 1: and making your identity as a human being being sexually
Speaker 1: attracted to Lightning McQueen. And I think your friend has
Speaker 1: fallen into the trap of the latter half of what
Speaker 1: I just said, because clearly he's bringing this up so
Speaker 1: much because it has become a part of who he is,
Speaker 1: and that is in many ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. So my issue, like it again, like
Speaker 2: that's his issue itself, But I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 2: something I should bring up and try to get him
Speaker 2: away from per se because you know, that's that's him.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go into that much stuff to
Speaker 2: belittle him in any meats, But I you know, don't
Speaker 2: know if this friendship could possibly continue for much longer,
Speaker 2: if this is going to be all it's about.
Speaker 1: Have you had Look, you got to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with your friend and be like, look, dude, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: Like if you want to jerk off to the wooly
Speaker 1: mammoth from ice age, like I implore you to live
Speaker 1: your best life, but I don't. You don't have to
Speaker 1: tell me about it every time you do.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's understandable. But what if he takes that the
Speaker 2: wrong way. Hey, I'm the only person he could talk
Speaker 2: about this too.
Speaker 1: Just let him. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, you got it.
Speaker 1: I mean we got to get serious. Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's just about setting boundaries. I think, you know, if
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about maybe give him an allowance.
Speaker 1: Like you can describe suck fuck I guess you would
Speaker 1: fuck the engine hole, the exhaust pipe. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: he can tell him, he can. Okay, so you weren't
Speaker 1: even listening when he was telling you about all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I try to drown it out, like it's more of
Speaker 2: like the last time he had talked about it was
Speaker 2: like Doc Hudson, which is not you know, it's kind
Speaker 2: of like an older car per se. But he was
Speaker 2: more of like describing the sexual features of the car
Speaker 2: than like the actual presence of fucking the car.
Speaker 1: What what was he what was he saying?
Speaker 2: Like how smooth it is, and how like the curves
Speaker 2: are all together, and how like he's very shiny and
Speaker 2: the fender is just right in your face. He also
Speaker 2: said that the lips were perfect size and succulent, and
Speaker 2: that is in the direct quote.
Speaker 1: I don't know where in the universe exactly, but somewhere
Speaker 1: out there is a perfect community for your friend to
Speaker 1: exist in, and it is probably not you. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you let him free and you let
Speaker 1: him experiment, because look, he's there's got to be somebody
Speaker 1: else who is as obsessed with fucking cartoon characters as
Speaker 1: your friend is, and for his own sake, he should,
Speaker 1: you know, spend some time finding that person instead of
Speaker 1: wasting his breath on you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think, like, in terms of the friendship,
Speaker 2: I should have a conversation with him, and it's like
Speaker 2: disagreeable at all, I should probably just cut him loose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, uh, well, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell you expressly what to do, but I think
Speaker 1: you should have a conversation with him. And if he,
Speaker 1: you know, continues to bring up all this stuff, then
Speaker 1: uh he didn't, then he doesn't give a shit about
Speaker 1: you know, the boundaries that you have tried to set
Speaker 1: with him, and I think that's legitimate grounds for not
Speaker 1: wanting to be around him as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thought as well. I just want to
Speaker 2: talk to someone about it. It's kind of weird to
Speaker 2: talk to him, I know, because obviously they'll know who
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That is funny that they would. They would obviously know
Speaker 1: who you're talking about unless you have multiple friends Like this, well.
Speaker 2: It's my childhood friend, so obviously everyone know who that is.
Speaker 1: Well I, by the way, I have to ask, like
Speaker 1: as I just have just you know and look and
Speaker 1: look this you know question doesn't come from anywhere in particular,
Speaker 1: but I am as his childhood friend, I have to
Speaker 1: know what was his childhood like.
Speaker 2: Nothing too like crazy, I feel like as a snared
Speaker 2: children like growing up wise like he had no major
Speaker 2: issues in his life. Parents are both still there, grandparents
Speaker 2: are all still there, luckily, middle class, good neighborhood, nice school,
Speaker 2: like it wasn't anything to bring out these certain desires
Speaker 2: per se, like no trauma on his life could kind
Speaker 2: of contend with it. So I'm not really sure where
Speaker 2: all this kind of came from. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: it came from his childhood watching so many of these
Speaker 2: movies or maybe like just how it's like, obviously I
Speaker 2: don't really know his full intake of his childhood growing up.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like all the major details that happened
Speaker 2: in his life, but from what I know, there was
Speaker 2: no like specific tragic event.
Speaker 1: Don't let him back off in the theater during the
Speaker 1: Mario movie. Do that for the sake of society.
Speaker 2: Having the conversation before that comes.
Speaker 3: Out, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go, Matthew, just.
Speaker 2: Have a great night. Everyone you to thank you?
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: Oh, how about this one? The ants from ants? I
Speaker 1: say no more? Who plays the the fish in Shark Tale?
Speaker 1: Who is that? Angelina? Angelina? Joe Lee plays that fish?
Speaker 1: Give it to him, give give him the give him
Speaker 1: the fish from Shark Tale? Let him have that one.
Speaker 1: Hi there, how's it going now? It's going good? How
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 4: I'm just chilling with my cat, and I figured I
Speaker 4: tell you guys about a time when I worked in
Speaker 4: like a customer support job. We'll keep some some details light.
Speaker 4: I would I would basically help them with their internet
Speaker 4: you know, they call in, have me reset their password,
Speaker 4: turn on and off their WiFi box, and uh. Essentially,
Speaker 4: essentially the unusual part.
Speaker 1: Is it says here that you used to use Google
Speaker 1: to look at random people's houses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you ever go on Google street View and
Speaker 4: just kind of walk around. Yeah, you know, just just
Speaker 4: get in the sights. I really like doing that. It's
Speaker 4: it's pretty therapeutic. It's something that I've come back to
Speaker 4: a lot, and it just just reminded me of the show.
Speaker 4: You know, when you go to Vegas and meet random people,
Speaker 4: it's like fishing. You know, you meet a random person
Speaker 4: and make a connection with them. You know, I think about,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody's grandma that I helped connect their printer,
Speaker 4: like that person. You know, I couldn't call them back
Speaker 4: if I wanted to. You know, it's it's part of
Speaker 4: the job. You have responsibility to, you know, have their
Speaker 4: address and give them their help. You know, a lot
Speaker 4: of the time they're pissed and then they're like, why
Speaker 4: is my wif I not working?
Speaker 1: Okay, so sot me can I can? I let me
Speaker 1: interview for a second. So I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure this is clear. So you you talk to the grandma,
Speaker 1: you help her with her internet, and then you look
Speaker 1: up her address on Google Maps and look at her.
Speaker 4: House basically in another tab. And it was you know,
Speaker 4: I try to you know, people that were angry or
Speaker 4: people that.
Speaker 1: Were okay, wait real quick, real quick. So all right,
Speaker 1: so you you okay, now I understand, all right, you
Speaker 1: are you are remotely on the phone with an old
Speaker 1: lady and you're helping her with her internet, and in
Speaker 1: another tab, you go on Google Maps and type in
Speaker 1: her address to look at her house, uh, to see
Speaker 1: and so like, like while you're on the phone with her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And while I was helping, there was a lot
Speaker 4: of dead air where I would just kind of like
Speaker 4: read them the Wi Fi password or something, or I'd
Speaker 4: be waiting for them to enter in the passwords, so
Speaker 4: you know, I'd go to their house and take a
Speaker 4: walk around the block see what their neighborhood's like. And
Speaker 4: it was really something that I tried to not be
Speaker 4: creepy about. It was more of like a way to travel.
Speaker 4: A lot of the memories I made of doing that
Speaker 4: street view. I went to I think Oregon has the Redwoods,
Speaker 4: and there was a really nice neighborhood that was just
Speaker 4: pristine roads in the Redwoods and very nice houses. And
Speaker 4: I just thought, what, you know, what it would be
Speaker 4: like to live there, Because I live in Michigan and
Speaker 4: I've lived in this sort of Michigan Michigan trees my
Speaker 4: entire life. And then I would go to Arizona on
Speaker 4: the next call and it would just you know, there's
Speaker 4: no lawns, It's just rocks and cactuses. And it really
Speaker 4: reminded me of the show. So I just want to
Speaker 4: call in and uh, I guess I really appreciate a
Speaker 4: lot of the callers, and I appreciate you, Lyle.
Speaker 1: Now do you think it would be Now if let's
Speaker 1: say I looked up the callers addresses and I was
Speaker 1: like looking at your house while I was talking to
Speaker 1: Do you think that would be weird?
Speaker 4: I see, that's the thing I'm trying to think. Was
Speaker 4: it unethical of me to kind of take that information
Speaker 4: like it is a little bit of a violation of
Speaker 4: the privacy And it was. I felt like it was
Speaker 4: more of a curiosity. But I never did anything harmful
Speaker 4: with it. And you know, it was kind of just
Speaker 4: like if I if I had been an in person
Speaker 4: tech helper, it seems like it would be the same thing.
Speaker 4: Like I went to their house, I was gone, I'll
Speaker 4: never see them again and I thank them for the time,
Speaker 4: bye bye. And I really didn't see any ethical pri problem.
Speaker 4: And you know, just taking a walk around the neighborhood,
Speaker 4: almost like imagining walking you know, going to a Starbucks
Speaker 4: er now Starbucks coffee, but you know, just seeing the
Speaker 4: stores and traveling with Google Maps. So like a lot
Speaker 4: of callers I've noticed want to get out and travel
Speaker 4: and just see the world, but you can, you literally can't.
Speaker 4: Street view it's very good. So yeah, that's that's just
Speaker 4: something I wanted to spread my love, just just cruising
Speaker 4: around in the street view, even if it came from
Speaker 4: my tech support job. I tried to make some help
Speaker 4: some out of it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone back to somebody's house, Like you're
Speaker 1: on the phone with them, you're helping them out to
Speaker 1: tech support, and then while you're on the phone with them,
Speaker 1: you're out their house, and then later you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of like that old lady's house. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like later at night, you're just in your
Speaker 1: bed on your computer and you're like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back to that lady's house. You ever do something like that?
Speaker 4: I bet I have gone through the Google history and
Speaker 4: just seen lots of the different places that I've searched
Speaker 4: when I was working that this is a very long
Speaker 4: time ago, you know, just to look back at all
Speaker 4: the virtual places I've traveled, it's like, I don't know's
Speaker 4: it seems like geoguesser. I guess the we call center
Speaker 4: part was just call center geo guesser. I guess I
Speaker 4: knew the location.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk more about this. You use this,
Speaker 1: uh looking up people's dresses that you're helping with tech
Speaker 1: support port and walking around their neighborhoods. Virtually, you use
Speaker 1: it as a way to virtually travel. Correct.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, basically. And there's been a few times where
Speaker 4: I'm just stress and I'll just just type in a
Speaker 4: random city or or zoom into somewhere in Europe and
Speaker 4: go walk through the streets and street view and it's
Speaker 4: been something that's pretty cool. I think more people should
Speaker 4: do it, honestly. Now street view.
Speaker 1: Now hunter, do you ever do you have the desire
Speaker 1: to actually get out of your house and go to
Speaker 1: a bunch of new places?
Speaker 4: Well, I drive. I drive the same kind of route
Speaker 4: for work, so I do get out a bit. I've
Speaker 4: never I've traveled to. When I was about twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 4: I traveled to Texas and we went to Mexico just
Speaker 4: for day, and it's just a different world. Everything's so different.
Speaker 4: It just seems extremely extremely different.
Speaker 1: Hunter, Do you do you do you still work remotely? No?
Speaker 4: I don't anymore. Actually I used to go on stream
Speaker 4: view a lot more. And this is like back in
Speaker 4: like twenty fourteen. I think, do.
Speaker 1: You still go on street view at all?
Speaker 4: I haven't, But during the pandemic I randomly picked it
Speaker 4: back up just as I stress relief or you know,
Speaker 4: it's just a random curiosity thing.
Speaker 1: Hunter, I feel as though you might. I mean, look, man,
Speaker 1: you're doing all this traveling through Google Maps. That's good
Speaker 1: that you're finding a way to use your desires. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to make of you,
Speaker 1: because it sounds like you have this deep desire within
Speaker 1: you to go and actually travel.
Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely it's hard because I love where
Speaker 4: I live in Michigan, and you know, just for life circumstances,
Speaker 4: I'm pretty comfortable in my situation.
Speaker 1: Hunter. People do this thing. People People people go on
Speaker 1: vacations where they don't they continue to live where they
Speaker 1: currently live, and they travel to another place only briefly,
Speaker 1: and then return back to where they live.
Speaker 4: That is a good proposition. I feel like I would
Speaker 4: have to travel far enough to where it's a bit different,
Speaker 4: Like I haven't been up to the up and it's
Speaker 4: pretty intense, it's very snowy. I think Canada would be cool.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to go into Canada. It would
Speaker 4: be a cool goal for this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well, uh, I.
Speaker 4: Guess I'll put myself in Canada season places to go
Speaker 4: in Canada.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to think if I have any comments
Speaker 1: as to how I feel about you looking up people's addresses.
Speaker 1: I don't feel strongly about it.
Speaker 4: Was it a little bit unethical? I think that I
Speaker 4: was responsible, I think, and uh, you know, i'd never
Speaker 4: give out some of these address.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to will look full all that ship
Speaker 1: and all the back and forth about that. I just
Speaker 1: want to get to the underlying thing with you, Okay,
Speaker 1: because you're you're you're sweetly talking about all this Google
Speaker 1: maps stuff. But what's all I really care about with you,
Speaker 1: and I think we've gotten somewhere with it is is
Speaker 1: what's what What's what's lying underneath all of this? Is
Speaker 1: it a desire to actually go places? And if it
Speaker 1: is what what opportunities do you have, if any, What
Speaker 1: opportunities can you create to actually be able to go
Speaker 1: and do that.
Speaker 4: I think it was a I wanted a kind of
Speaker 4: visual way to see. I don't want to say how
Speaker 4: other people live, but just you know, other other It's
Speaker 4: hard to put in the words just the human experience
Speaker 4: of every person, Like I guess it's a parasocial connection
Speaker 4: to each person. Sometimes when people would be really angry
Speaker 4: at me, I would angrily look up their address and
Speaker 4: I'd be like, no, well, that's that's kind of shitty
Speaker 4: to just creep on somebody like that. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to ever feel like I was intruding. If somebody wouldn't
Speaker 4: invite me in their house, I wouldn't look them up.
Speaker 4: You know. I think actually going and doing it is
Speaker 4: a lot of It's a lot of work, but I
Speaker 4: think in small steps all I'm when to travel like
Speaker 4: I good people hopefully this summer.
Speaker 1: I don't know, has someone ever been angry with you
Speaker 1: and you've looked at their house and you've thought about
Speaker 1: stealing things from their front yard.
Speaker 4: I did have a It was a guy that called
Speaker 4: me and complained that his wife I didn't reach and
Speaker 4: I looked up his house and it was this massive house, Surrey.
Speaker 4: I really don't know what to tell you can get
Speaker 4: extenders or something that, And he seemed to get really
Speaker 4: mad at me just for I don't know. I try
Speaker 4: to be a nice guy and offer the best solution,
Speaker 4: trying to be a kind person, and I just hung
Speaker 4: up on him. I couldn't take it. I just hung up.
Speaker 4: And I feel kind of bad about just hanging up
Speaker 4: and not being able to resolve that.
Speaker 1: Hunter. I hope you protect your own peace. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what I'll leave you with. I hope you protect your
Speaker 1: own peace having people yell at you all the time.
Speaker 1: And I don't know whether or not it's ethical for
Speaker 1: you to fucking look at people's houses on Google Maps,
Speaker 1: but I do know that I'm going to be thinking
Speaker 1: about that every time ill somebody on the phone for
Speaker 1: tech support.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I think everybody in show will be.
Speaker 1: Too, Hunter. Is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate your work. Kick. I will love on
Speaker 4: my can and chill out and listen to Ress Dream.
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Hunter Bo. Hello, Caroline, how are Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's going on.
Speaker 3: I'm great. My husband left me to go to Texas
Speaker 3: for work. I'm just chilling with my dog watching a
Speaker 3: Get Go. It's it's a good Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: I can't complain beautiful. How can I get you today, Caroline?
Speaker 3: You know you've been taking some heavy calls and uh,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to call in to just give a
Speaker 3: shout out and to all the blanky adults out there.
Speaker 3: I'm twenty five years old, i am about to have
Speaker 3: my first child, and I'm still out here sleeping with
Speaker 3: not one, but three baby blankets. And I've done my
Speaker 3: research and it seems that they're around twenty to thirty
Speaker 3: percent of adults has some sort of comforting item to
Speaker 3: sleep with.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to discuss that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that sleeping I'm gonna take the position here, Caroline,
Speaker 1: that sleeping with a blanket is rather normal.
Speaker 3: But a baby blanket like a.
Speaker 1: Blankie, what is the difference?
Speaker 3: It's small. Mostly if you're twenty five years old like me,
Speaker 3: it's probably really tattered. It's seen, it seems seen some
Speaker 3: better days, it's for sure, you know. And I always
Speaker 3: I was always very insecure about it. I grew up
Speaker 3: with like sleep problems, you know, And I was always
Speaker 3: the girl at the sleepovers even in high school, like
Speaker 3: bringing my baby blanket and like hiding it and stuff.
Speaker 3: And then I was like and I looked it up,
Speaker 3: and I was like, does this mean there's something wrong
Speaker 3: with me? Is there some unanswered trauma that I've never
Speaker 3: kind of taken a look at? And I looked it
Speaker 3: up and they're like.
Speaker 5: No, no, this is okay, And it's okay for me
Speaker 5: to do this because many adults will turn to you know,
Speaker 5: alcohol and drugs instead, and it took a really dark turn, but.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just do you don't want to end up
Speaker 1: having to go to b a.
Speaker 3: No blank He's anonymous, you know what. I'm gonna don't
Speaker 3: see if there's any around here in Nashville. I'm sure
Speaker 3: that they're weirder things that Caroline.
Speaker 1: Here's my thoughts on this is uh, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I guess to me, I don't understand what you're psyching
Speaker 1: yourself up about because this idea of a baby blanket
Speaker 1: is is redundant to me. I'm just trying to give
Speaker 1: a word, and I'm gonna go with redundant because you're
Speaker 1: it's fucking it's fabric. It's soft. Yeah stuff. People sleep
Speaker 1: with comforters and sheets and pillow and soft things to
Speaker 1: make them fall asleep. The this your blanket is people
Speaker 1: sleep with blankets all the time. It's it's a piece
Speaker 1: of fabric that is soft. I think it's literally the
Speaker 1: the uh consideration of the object, the labeling that you're
Speaker 1: psyching yourself up about. Uh where it's just if it's
Speaker 1: a fucking blanket, what's the big deal?
Speaker 3: But would you would you like scream bloody murder if
Speaker 3: somehow you are comforter or you're you're just a blanket
Speaker 3: that you have on your bed disappeared one day, or
Speaker 3: or if your house caught on fire and your blankets
Speaker 3: went up in flames, Like would that for life?
Speaker 1: I I think losing my comforter and my house getting
Speaker 1: lit on fire are two very different scenarios. Uh. One
Speaker 1: would cause me far less alarm. Are you saying that
Speaker 1: your concern or the thing that you find strange is
Speaker 1: that you have an attachment with your blanket that is
Speaker 1: to the point where you would scream bloody murder if
Speaker 1: you ever lost it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yeah. Not that it's a you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like there are there are worse things. There are
Speaker 3: for sure worse things, and I've kept them around this
Speaker 3: long without without losing them. But I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just and since I'm I'm bringing a child into this world,
Speaker 3: like are that it will he be like yo, my
Speaker 3: like my mom's like a blanky adult Like will he
Speaker 3: will he grow up and like tell his friends and
Speaker 3: be like, yo, my mom's a weirdo because she's like
Speaker 3: she has blankies. And I don't know, I'm just well,
Speaker 3: you have me?
Speaker 1: Can I say you have a long you have a
Speaker 1: long time until then because I assume your child is
Speaker 1: also going to have a blanket. So he's a piece
Speaker 1: of shit hypocrite if he says that about.
Speaker 3: You, oh for sure. And then this falls on me
Speaker 3: because I'm like, if I have, if I have a blanky,
Speaker 3: a blanky lover myself, like I need to pick out
Speaker 3: the perfect one. And while I'm doing that, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be honest. While I'm doing that, like I've been I've
Speaker 3: been looking. I've been you know, scrolling on Amazon whatever,
Speaker 3: trying to find like the best quality blankets, and it's
Speaker 3: like almost tempting to pick one up for me as well.
Speaker 3: Because those ones that I have here, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, they're saying around, I'm not getting
Speaker 3: rid of him. Many times I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to go down a path with this. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the blanket itself is sleeping with a blanket. Again,
Speaker 1: in my head, it's completely normal. People sleep with blankets.
Speaker 1: Whether you call it a baby blanket or you call
Speaker 1: it or whatever, it's a It's a fucking piece of fabric.
Speaker 1: I think what is interesting, though, is the attachment to
Speaker 1: the piece of fabric. So when you say that, you
Speaker 1: would scream bloody murder, like you have a very visceral, emotional,
Speaker 1: intense attachment to the blanket. Is it one specific? Is
Speaker 1: this a specific blanket that's been with you for a
Speaker 1: very long time?
Speaker 3: Yes, three, I have three of them. My mom has
Speaker 3: a shopping addiction and she bought me three of the
Speaker 3: same blankets, And yes, I have all three of them.
Speaker 3: They're next me right now. And I have a purple
Speaker 3: teddy bear too, So that there, you know, they take
Speaker 3: up some room how long at kings heist mattress because
Speaker 3: we're not We're not all gonna I'm not all going
Speaker 3: to fit on here anymore with the dog, and my
Speaker 3: pregnancy pillow and all my blankies.
Speaker 1: How long have you had those items for.
Speaker 3: Since I was since I was a baby. They've been
Speaker 3: around twenty five years now, they're and they're they're still kicking.
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're tattered, they're ripped, they have holes
Speaker 3: in them, like I have to hand wash them and
Speaker 3: the air dry be very gentle.
Speaker 1: So these are objects, all apart the s. These are
Speaker 1: objects that hold sentimental value to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, more than like I picture myself being buried with
Speaker 3: these one day. Tell tell like that they've just they've
Speaker 3: been with me since the beginning of time, my time
Speaker 3: at least.
Speaker 1: So listen, is it it's Look, it's not weird to sleep.
Speaker 1: It's fairly normal to sleep with a blank to sleep
Speaker 1: with a blanket. Everyone does. Sleeps with a comforter. Blanket
Speaker 1: and sheets are all the same fucking thing to me.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about what they're all called.
Speaker 1: They are a soft thing you put over yourself when
Speaker 1: you sleep. So we all sleep with a get of
Speaker 1: some kind. And it's a normal thing to have emotional
Speaker 1: investments and sentimental objects that have been in around your
Speaker 1: whole life. Now, question does the here's where it gets.
Speaker 1: Does the blanket come with you to the grocery store
Speaker 1: and the bank?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, on vacation, if I'm staying somewhere, if I'm if
Speaker 3: we're you know, going away somewhere, blank blankets come with
Speaker 3: But do I shove it in my bag to go
Speaker 3: grocery shopping? I do not.
Speaker 1: Is Linus a personal hero of yours?
Speaker 3: You know what? I don't know why I haven't thought
Speaker 3: of this before, but yes, it's I don't know how
Speaker 3: it doesn't get torn at the scenes from dragging it
Speaker 3: all around everywhere.
Speaker 1: But I do know what I know. Is it because
Speaker 1: it's animated, it's because he's a cartoon? Yes, yeah, But
Speaker 1: we don't all have that kind of privilege in our lives.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 1: Well Listen, Caroline, I I I know it sounds like
Speaker 1: you uh, you're you're, you're, And I don't know. I
Speaker 1: hope you take this in a positive way. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope it's helpful for you. But it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're psyching yourself up over a lot that I don't
Speaker 1: think is worth being. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Psychic very good yea, oh, I'm very good at doing
Speaker 3: that I'm very good at doing that with other things
Speaker 3: as well. They're probably more important than this. But uh,
Speaker 3: it seems all like top of the line. M a
Speaker 3: lot if I'm if I just get philosophical with myself
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Uh if your house did light on fire,
Speaker 1: I think that's worth getting psyched up about. I wanted
Speaker 1: to say that as well. You know what, Look, if
Speaker 1: you're here's the thing. Do you have a Do you
Speaker 1: have a job?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I I am a business owner.
Speaker 1: What do you what's your business?
Speaker 3: I own a social media management company.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, I look it sounds like that. That's
Speaker 1: that's a thing that took you a long time to build.
Speaker 1: You're a fucking adult. You pay your bills on time,
Speaker 1: you have a child, you have a job. All right,
Speaker 1: go buy yourself a blanket, Caroline. I actually I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna put I'm gonna say this, Caroline. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this crazy thing. I think you, with the
Speaker 1: money that you make as an adult, making the intentional
Speaker 1: decision to proudly purchase and use a blanket for yourself
Speaker 1: is quite the opposite of a childlike decision. I think
Speaker 1: it's an incredibly adult decision to make, so I implore you
Speaker 1: to make it confidently.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to go all out. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna find a goosey blanket or that. I bet they
Speaker 3: have those out there, don't.
Speaker 1: They well be financially responsible for us that that is
Speaker 1: actually how people end up in BA.
Speaker 3: So yes, I will you know what you're You're so
Speaker 3: right about that, I'm gonna I'll look at Amazon first
Speaker 3: and see is.
Speaker 1: There anything that you want to say to the people
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3: I guess listen, if if getting it's getting to gekin
Speaker 3: gets rough sometimes, you know, I'm in Nashville during the
Speaker 3: Nashville show. We can always switch places and I can
Speaker 3: and I can put on the suit. You can chat
Speaker 3: to me. I don't have I don't have any uh
Speaker 3: psychiatric experience either. But if you want to reverse the roles, this.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that I have feel like. This doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I have to like make Facebook posts for a dentist,
Speaker 1: do I.
Speaker 3: Oh, I more meant you can tell me your problems
Speaker 3: on stage. But but hey, if you yeah, if you're
Speaker 3: good at I mean, you're great at engaging with audiences,
Speaker 3: it's just that and I'll throw you the content and
Speaker 3: you can write a fun caption if you want to
Speaker 3: do my social media job. But yes, if you want
Speaker 3: to switch roles at your show and you talk to me,
Speaker 3: you let me know.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Caroline, you have a good rest of
Speaker 1: the night.
Speaker 3: You as well. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I would do that, but I don't trust her, no offense.
Speaker 1: I like Caroline, but you know, so there are some things.
Speaker 1: You know, we can cut all everything that I just said,
Speaker 1: and we can just end it right when the call ends.
Speaker 1: You know what, no, actually know what. Don't cut it.
Speaker 1: I said what I said. I'm a fucking idiot. Hello.
Speaker 4: Hello, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you doing well?
Speaker 4: Thanks?
Speaker 1: What's what's going on with you this evening? My friend? Oh?
Speaker 4: Nothing, just uh, you know, watching stream, hanging out. I
Speaker 4: had a little something on my mind recently figured to
Speaker 4: talk to you about it.
Speaker 1: Hit men.
Speaker 4: So I just got back from some travel and anywhere
Speaker 4: I go I tend to just kind of people watch.
Speaker 4: That's kind of my job. One thing that I noticed, though,
Speaker 4: is that when you have conversations with people that you
Speaker 4: don't necessarily know, you've never really interacted with with, there's
Speaker 4: there's kind of a a direction that that conversation is
Speaker 4: supposed to go.
Speaker 1: You know, tell me more about this direction that you
Speaker 1: feel like the conversation.
Speaker 4: So sure, So, for instance, how we just started this conversation,
Speaker 4: it's hey, how are you? I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 4: And generally it's kind of forced in a direction that
Speaker 4: isn't necessarily giving any substance to the conversation. It feels
Speaker 4: kind of superficial. And I just got back from Vegas
Speaker 4: and I kind of noticed that that's almost every interaction
Speaker 4: I had personally and just watching people, it's the same way.
Speaker 4: There's no real connection between people.
Speaker 1: Have you felt this way for a while, Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Suppose I've noticed it for some time.
Speaker 3: It's a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something I've always picked up on, I guess,
Speaker 4: and something that I've always participated in as well. It
Speaker 4: just seems like that's kind of the natural progression.
Speaker 1: So you say it's something that you participate in. Are
Speaker 1: you trying to have more vulnerable, deeper open conversations with
Speaker 1: other people?
Speaker 4: I suppose so, I guess it's hard to tell when
Speaker 4: somebody would be receptive to that. You don't necessarily want
Speaker 4: to make them uncomfortable with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I got a ton of thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: I feel like in yes, it's true, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of situations where people are doing a dance or they're
Speaker 1: being you know, somewhat superficial or level one or whatever
Speaker 1: you could call that. But I think for you man,
Speaker 1: the thing to do, and tell me if you already
Speaker 1: do this, is you have to be vulnerable first. You
Speaker 1: You can't expect other people to let their guard down
Speaker 1: and open up to you if you're not gonna go
Speaker 1: there first, you know what I'm saying. Do you ever
Speaker 1: do that? Do you ever sort of let your guard
Speaker 1: down when you're talking to people and try to engage
Speaker 1: them in the kind of conversation that you're hoping to
Speaker 1: be engaged in? You know not?
Speaker 4: I can't say that I have too often. I guess
Speaker 4: there's always the worry that you may make somebody uncomfortable
Speaker 4: by being vulnerable towards them. You know, that's a that's
Speaker 4: a good point though.
Speaker 1: So it's a fear that you're gonna like say something
Speaker 1: that's gonna be awkward and make the other person uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, I I suppose so, yeah, sure, it's I
Speaker 4: guess it's it's that connection is not quite there yet.
Speaker 4: If you're vulnerable with them, it may close the doors
Speaker 4: to being able to make a more meaningful connection.
Speaker 1: Can I bring up another idea, So, if you're afraid
Speaker 1: that you're going to be vulnerable and that your vulnerability
Speaker 1: is going to turn somebody off, the thing is is
Speaker 1: if you're trying to surround yourself with and engage in
Speaker 1: conversations with open minded, vulnerable people, then when you open
Speaker 1: yourself up and start being vulnerable, either the person will
Speaker 1: respond positively and you will get to engage with them
Speaker 1: in the kind of conversation that you wanted to engage with,
Speaker 1: or if they respond negatively, it doesn't matter because they
Speaker 1: weren't the kind of person that you wanted to engage
Speaker 1: with anyway.
Speaker 4: That is an excellent point right there. Yeah, that's true. Hmmm,
Speaker 4: it's a I guess, uh. And at a certain point,
Speaker 4: you can't be vulnerable to every single person you talk to,
Speaker 4: So I guess there's got to be a kind of
Speaker 4: a decider of spencer.
Speaker 1: You can spencer, you can fuck it, you can do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. You can be however you desire to
Speaker 1: be in the worlds to people you can bring up
Speaker 1: your parents' divorce in every conversation that you have if
Speaker 1: you really fucking want to, and you will attract other
Speaker 1: people who are like that as well. There are no
Speaker 1: rules that you really need to follow, you know.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a good point. I I wonder what
Speaker 4: kind of brought on that The general ebb and flow
Speaker 4: of conversation that we have right now where it's like
Speaker 4: super supersful is uh, you know that everybody has.
Speaker 1: Well, it's fear. You've ever been to a fucking music
Speaker 1: festival and everyone's on ecstasy and they're all like spilling
Speaker 1: to each other? Oh yeah, it's everyone's That's all that's
Speaker 1: in everyone, that's in the you know, the thing that
Speaker 1: the person who works in accounting fucking is spilling to
Speaker 1: everyone while they're on ecstasy at the music festival, that's
Speaker 1: still in them when they're at their computer doing their
Speaker 1: EXCEL reports.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just that the environment and the drug and whatever
Speaker 1: it is is letting it come out. But it's in there,
Speaker 1: and if you want to take an opportunity to try
Speaker 1: to tap into it at a time, at a situation
Speaker 1: that's not a fucking music festival everrans on ecstasy and
Speaker 1: you want to tap into it. I think people would
Speaker 1: be excited by that. They'd be excited to talk to
Speaker 1: you because they know that they can be vulnerable with you,
Speaker 1: because you're being vulnerable with them.
Speaker 4: Sure, I could, I could see that. I wonder so
Speaker 4: if your inhibitions are removed and you get vulnerable with
Speaker 4: somebody but they're stuck in the idea of those societal standards,
Speaker 4: you may get a false negative reaction from them that
Speaker 4: could have been a connection in a more comfortable space.
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, But you gotta take the time. You gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta kind of give a little bit
Speaker 1: extra than what they're expecting and then listen to them
Speaker 1: to make it so that they, you know, feel as
Speaker 1: though their words to you are actually being received.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: Can I can I recommend a book for you to read?
Speaker 4: You absolutely came. Let me grab a pens, all right?
Speaker 1: So this is this is this is a dating book
Speaker 1: that I read what really kind of changed a lot
Speaker 1: of how I think about communicating with people. It is
Speaker 1: a dating book, but it's it applies to any kind
Speaker 1: of interaction. It doesn't necessarily have to be a romantic
Speaker 1: or anything like that interaction. But you should read this book.
Speaker 1: It's called Models. It's by a dude named Mark Manson.
Speaker 1: He wrote another book called The Subtle Art of Not
Speaker 1: Giving a Fuck, which is more popular book.
Speaker 4: But I've heard of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you should read this book. Again. It's
Speaker 1: a dating book, but I think the concepts in it
Speaker 1: applied to you know, all sorts of life stuff that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with dating.
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, yeah, So so I take it then that
Speaker 4: you you've had similar feelings towards bringing them interactions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm always thinking about that stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to give a little bit more if I
Speaker 1: feel like it. Sometimes I don't have the emotional energy
Speaker 1: for it, And that's another reason why people might That's
Speaker 1: another reason why people might act cold to you if
Speaker 1: you are putting yourself out there. But I hope that
Speaker 1: doesn't distract you from putting yourself out there.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh you want to say to the people of
Speaker 1: the computer before we go, or any other aspect of
Speaker 1: this that you felt like we didn't cover.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, My buddy Andy absolutely loves you, and he
Speaker 4: kind of put me on to you. So I appreciate
Speaker 4: your time.
Speaker 1: Tell Andy, I said, uh, I was gonna say, tell Andy,
Speaker 1: I said, he's a good guy, But I don't know Andy,
Speaker 1: so I can't make that assumption. Well, but I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it anyway to be nice. Expensive
Speaker 1: of course, thanks.
Speaker 4: Call it the repeat.
Speaker 1: Get goes off the line, taking your phone calls.
Speaker 4: Every night, never beat cant goes to his right.
Speaker 2: Was teaching you
Speaker 1: About your life, but he's not really an expert.