1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's Lyle get this. I'm coming to over 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: forty cities across the United States, the UK, Europe, and 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Australia to do this here Therapy Gecko Podcast Live. These 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: shows will involve bringing folks from the audience up on 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: stage to talk to a gecko about whatever they want, 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: just like we do on the podcast. The shows are 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: completely unplanned, completely unpredictable, and they will be a lot 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: of fun. So if you're a fan of the podcast, 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: you should definitely come out. 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I want 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: to see how you thought about it. 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it. 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So again, this is a friend of known since 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: I was. Basically he was next to me growing up 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: to be hung out all the time, and actually went 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: to the same college, and he had confided in me 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: about my sophomore year so a few years ago that 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: he is like only getting off to when he's with 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: females or with whoever he is with, from like children cartoons. 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: Say that again, So when he is. 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Like having relations with people like that, he's in the 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: end of the bedroom, he can only get off to like 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: children cartoons, like in his own mind. 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so when he's having sex with somebody, 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: when he's having sex with somebody, he can only get 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: off thinking about children's cartoons or is it like are 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: the cartoons? Are the cartoons themselves children? 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: Uh no, So it's not anything like pedophilia per se, 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: but like a couple examples, like I have a few 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: of them that he came to me, where like like 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: the movie Cars, like Lightning, a Queen Eva from Wally, 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: like Tour Story, he like the Mary Jane like stuff 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: like that. 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: M hmm. Wait, so you're telling me that your friend, 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: when he's having sex with somebody, he can only get 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: off if he thinks of Lightning with Queen from Cars, basically, yes, 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: Well he sounds. 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: Awesome, he sounds he's a good guy. But I just 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: kind of like weirded out by the situation. 49 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm. Why why does that weird you out? 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Uh? Because like, uh, it's it's more like when like 51 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: guys are having a guy talk, you know, where a 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: group of friends something. He'll not saying this, but it's 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: only when like we're alone and he's trying to talk 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: about it, and he brings it up quite frequently, like 55 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: at the moment he has a girlfriend, and it's just 56 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: kind of awkward. 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a level your is your your friend? I mean, 58 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: is he fucking with you? 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Like I think he's like fully 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: serious because he'll go into depth with this stuff. 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: What makes you think he's not fucking with you? 62 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Uh, the fact that it's like it's not like a 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: one time thing. I feel like if he's fucking with me, 64 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: it would be like, oh, he said it, and then 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: he'll kind of joke about it. But like it's been 66 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: multiple times, like like multiple multiple times, or he he's 67 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: come up to me and talked about this. 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: I So, are you sure he's not like just really 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: fucking with you. 70 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think so. He's not that kind of guy. 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: Like he's a very kind of like sweet kid, and 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: he's kind of a little awkward. But I don't think 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: he's fucking with me, and that's what kind of has 74 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: been driving me away from our friendship. And I feel 75 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: like he wouldn't throw away the friendship for fucking with 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: me like this. 77 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Mh Is it only like that? Who is it only 78 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: give me some more characters? 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: Okay? So, like I was saying, it's like Eva from 80 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: Wally Okay, Mary Jane from Toy Story, It's like the 81 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: little sheep herder girl. 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh a little do you mean little bo Peep? 83 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: Is that her name? 84 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 85 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah her, it's Ice Age Ellie, like the Manny's girlfriends, 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: the woolye mammoth tigers from Kung Fu. 87 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: Oh oh, the female the female wooly mammoth from Ice Age? Yes, yeah, okay. 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: I ever seen shark Tails or shark Tail? 89 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Okay? The girl from shark Tails? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the 90 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: girl from shark Tails kind of hot. I don't know 91 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: if you've seen that kind of hot? Yeah, but I 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: get that one. 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one, that one I kind of get but 94 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: like the mammoth is a little kind of threatening or 95 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: not for any but scary, like even a little scary. 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 97 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Uh, Mammoth the tiger from Kung Fu Panda. 98 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Now your your friend. He's bisexual, he is street Okay. 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: It's it's mostly female characters, but like I said, it 101 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: started with Lightning the Queen and it kind of like 102 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: evolved from there. 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Now these are all three D animated characters. He's not 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: into any like pure cartoon. 105 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: No, I don't believe. So he hasn't brought any of them, 106 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: is up? 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: He also said he was very excited for the new 109 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: Super Mario movie. And I can understand why. 110 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: U what Princess Peach, I'm assuming. 111 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: I don't really know and all the characters, but he 112 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: really wants to see you with me. 113 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like we think it's Prese. I feel 114 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: like we think it's Princess Peach, but actually he's gonna 115 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: pull his penis out when Bowser comes on the screen. 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I think that's it. 117 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I could do that. 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: Powerful characters, okay, but. 119 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: I feel like it was just powerful characters he would 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: be more into, not like children cartoons. I feel like 121 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: it'd be like actual people or actual like uh, like 122 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: movies or stories of fictional characters that are you know, 123 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: big and powerful versus these you know, like animals and 124 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: toys and stuff. 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, all the characters that you just listed do 126 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: have you know, undeniable sexual energies to them? Lightning McQueen, confident, 127 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: charismatic Eve, Uh, you know, a caretaker, the very supportive 128 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: ah that we already covered, the girl from Shark Tales. 129 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: So let's not pretend like we don't understand where your 130 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: homie is coming from. Okay, let's level with him on that. Okay, Uh, 131 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: tell me more about why this is just serving to you. 132 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: Like I said, it's kind of in the confides of 133 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: just when him are hanging out so like our boy time, 134 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: you know, playing games or like playing Xbox stuff like that, 135 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: it always turns into this conversation. It's always brought up 136 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: pretty frequently. Yeah, So I'm not really sure how to 137 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: digress from that conversation and more of him having these 138 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: like in depth of his sexual experiences while thinking of 139 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: these characters when it happens. 140 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: My thing with and this is more of your friend's 141 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: issue than yours is. Look, I think there's a fine line, 142 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: a major difference between being sexually attracted to Lightning McQueen 143 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: and making your identity as a human being being sexually 144 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: attracted to Lightning McQueen. And I think your friend has 145 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: fallen into the trap of the latter half of what 146 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: I just said, because clearly he's bringing this up so 147 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: much because it has become a part of who he is, 148 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and that is in many ways. 149 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. So my issue, like it again, like 150 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: that's his issue itself, But I'm not sure if it's 151 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: something I should bring up and try to get him 152 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: away from per se because you know, that's that's him. 153 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to go into that much stuff to 154 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: belittle him in any meats, But I you know, don't 155 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: know if this friendship could possibly continue for much longer, 156 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: if this is going to be all it's about. 157 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: Have you had Look, you got to have a conversation 158 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: with your friend and be like, look, dude, here's the thing, 159 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: Like if you want to jerk off to the wooly 160 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: mammoth from ice age, like I implore you to live 161 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: your best life, but I don't. You don't have to 162 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: tell me about it every time you do. 163 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's understandable. But what if he takes that the 164 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: wrong way. Hey, I'm the only person he could talk 165 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: about this too. 166 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Just let him. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, you got it. 167 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean we got to get serious. Yeah, I mean, look, 168 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: it's just about setting boundaries. I think, you know, if 169 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about maybe give him an allowance. 170 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: Like you can describe suck fuck I guess you would 171 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: fuck the engine hole, the exhaust pipe. Yeah, I know 172 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: he can tell him, he can. Okay, so you weren't 173 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: even listening when he was telling you about all this stuff. 174 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: I try to drown it out, like it's more of 175 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: like the last time he had talked about it was 176 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: like Doc Hudson, which is not you know, it's kind 177 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: of like an older car per se. But he was 178 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: more of like describing the sexual features of the car 179 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: than like the actual presence of fucking the car. 180 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: What what was he what was he saying? 181 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Like how smooth it is, and how like the curves 182 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: are all together, and how like he's very shiny and 183 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: the fender is just right in your face. He also 184 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: said that the lips were perfect size and succulent, and 185 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: that is in the direct quote. 186 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know where in the universe exactly, but somewhere 187 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: out there is a perfect community for your friend to 188 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: exist in, and it is probably not you. So I 189 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you let him free and you let 190 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: him experiment, because look, he's there's got to be somebody 191 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: else who is as obsessed with fucking cartoon characters as 192 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: your friend is, and for his own sake, he should, 193 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, spend some time finding that person instead of 194 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: wasting his breath on you. 195 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think, like, in terms of the friendship, 196 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 2: I should have a conversation with him, and it's like 197 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: disagreeable at all, I should probably just cut him loose. 198 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, uh, well, I'm not going 199 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: to tell you expressly what to do, but I think 200 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: you should have a conversation with him. And if he, 201 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, continues to bring up all this stuff, then 202 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: uh he didn't, then he doesn't give a shit about 203 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, the boundaries that you have tried to set 204 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: with him, and I think that's legitimate grounds for not 205 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: wanting to be around him as much. 206 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thought as well. I just want to 207 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: talk to someone about it. It's kind of weird to 208 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: talk to him, I know, because obviously they'll know who 209 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. 210 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: That is funny that they would. They would obviously know 211 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: who you're talking about unless you have multiple friends Like this, well. 212 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: It's my childhood friend, so obviously everyone know who that is. 213 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: Well I, by the way, I have to ask, like 214 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: as I just have just you know and look and 215 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: look this you know question doesn't come from anywhere in particular, 216 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: but I am as his childhood friend, I have to 217 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: know what was his childhood like. 218 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: Nothing too like crazy, I feel like as a snared 219 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: children like growing up wise like he had no major 220 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: issues in his life. Parents are both still there, grandparents 221 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: are all still there, luckily, middle class, good neighborhood, nice school, 222 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: like it wasn't anything to bring out these certain desires 223 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: per se, like no trauma on his life could kind 224 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: of contend with it. So I'm not really sure where 225 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: all this kind of came from. I'm not sure if 226 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: it came from his childhood watching so many of these 227 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: movies or maybe like just how it's like, obviously I 228 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: don't really know his full intake of his childhood growing up. 229 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, like all the major details that happened 230 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: in his life, but from what I know, there was 231 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: no like specific tragic event. 232 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Don't let him back off in the theater during the 233 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Mario movie. Do that for the sake of society. 234 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: Having the conversation before that comes. 235 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Out, hopefully. 236 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 237 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go, Matthew, just. 238 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Have a great night. Everyone you to thank you? 239 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 240 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh, how about this one? The ants from ants? I 241 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: say no more? Who plays the the fish in Shark Tale? 242 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: Who is that? Angelina? Angelina? Joe Lee plays that fish? 243 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Give it to him, give give him the give him 244 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: the fish from Shark Tale? Let him have that one. 245 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: Hi there, how's it going now? It's going good? How 246 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: are you? 247 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: I'm just chilling with my cat, and I figured I 248 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: tell you guys about a time when I worked in 249 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: like a customer support job. We'll keep some some details light. 250 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: I would I would basically help them with their internet 251 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: you know, they call in, have me reset their password, 252 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: turn on and off their WiFi box, and uh. Essentially, 253 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: essentially the unusual part. 254 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Is it says here that you used to use Google 255 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: to look at random people's houses. 256 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you ever go on Google street View and 257 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: just kind of walk around. Yeah, you know, just just 258 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: get in the sights. I really like doing that. It's 259 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: it's pretty therapeutic. It's something that I've come back to 260 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: a lot, and it just just reminded me of the show. 261 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: You know, when you go to Vegas and meet random people, 262 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: it's like fishing. You know, you meet a random person 263 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: and make a connection with them. You know, I think about, 264 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: you know, somebody's grandma that I helped connect their printer, 265 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: like that person. You know, I couldn't call them back 266 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: if I wanted to. You know, it's it's part of 267 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: the job. You have responsibility to, you know, have their 268 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: address and give them their help. You know, a lot 269 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: of the time they're pissed and then they're like, why 270 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: is my wif I not working? 271 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so sot me can I can? I let me 272 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: interview for a second. So I just want to make 273 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: sure this is clear. So you you talk to the grandma, 274 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: you help her with her internet, and then you look 275 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: up her address on Google Maps and look at her. 276 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 4: House basically in another tab. And it was you know, 277 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: I try to you know, people that were angry or 278 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: people that. 279 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Were okay, wait real quick, real quick. So all right, 280 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: so you you okay, now I understand, all right, you 281 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: are you are remotely on the phone with an old 282 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: lady and you're helping her with her internet, and in 283 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: another tab, you go on Google Maps and type in 284 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: her address to look at her house, uh, to see 285 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: and so like, like while you're on the phone with her. 286 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And while I was helping, there was a lot 287 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: of dead air where I would just kind of like 288 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: read them the Wi Fi password or something, or I'd 289 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: be waiting for them to enter in the passwords, so 290 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: you know, I'd go to their house and take a 291 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: walk around the block see what their neighborhood's like. And 292 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: it was really something that I tried to not be 293 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 4: creepy about. It was more of like a way to travel. 294 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: A lot of the memories I made of doing that 295 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: street view. I went to I think Oregon has the Redwoods, 296 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: and there was a really nice neighborhood that was just 297 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: pristine roads in the Redwoods and very nice houses. And 298 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 4: I just thought, what, you know, what it would be 299 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: like to live there, Because I live in Michigan and 300 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: I've lived in this sort of Michigan Michigan trees my 301 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: entire life. And then I would go to Arizona on 302 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: the next call and it would just you know, there's 303 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: no lawns, It's just rocks and cactuses. And it really 304 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: reminded me of the show. So I just want to 305 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: call in and uh, I guess I really appreciate a 306 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: lot of the callers, and I appreciate you, Lyle. 307 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Now do you think it would be Now if let's 308 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: say I looked up the callers addresses and I was 309 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: like looking at your house while I was talking to 310 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Do you think that would be weird? 311 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: I see, that's the thing I'm trying to think. Was 312 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 4: it unethical of me to kind of take that information 313 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: like it is a little bit of a violation of 314 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 4: the privacy And it was. I felt like it was 315 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: more of a curiosity. But I never did anything harmful 316 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: with it. And you know, it was kind of just 317 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: like if I if I had been an in person 318 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: tech helper, it seems like it would be the same thing. 319 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: Like I went to their house, I was gone, I'll 320 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 4: never see them again and I thank them for the time, 321 00:19:54,240 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: bye bye. And I really didn't see any ethical pri problem. 322 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: And you know, just taking a walk around the neighborhood, 323 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: almost like imagining walking you know, going to a Starbucks 324 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: er now Starbucks coffee, but you know, just seeing the 325 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: stores and traveling with Google Maps. So like a lot 326 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 4: of callers I've noticed want to get out and travel 327 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 4: and just see the world, but you can, you literally can't. 328 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 4: Street view it's very good. So yeah, that's that's just 329 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: something I wanted to spread my love, just just cruising 330 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: around in the street view, even if it came from 331 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 4: my tech support job. I tried to make some help 332 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 4: some out of it. 333 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever gone back to somebody's house, Like you're 334 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: on the phone with them, you're helping them out to 335 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: tech support, and then while you're on the phone with them, 336 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: you're out their house, and then later you're like, you know, 337 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: I kind of like that old lady's house. I'm gonna 338 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like later at night, you're just in your 339 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: bed on your computer and you're like, I'm gonna go 340 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: back to that lady's house. You ever do something like that? 341 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: I bet I have gone through the Google history and 342 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: just seen lots of the different places that I've searched 343 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: when I was working that this is a very long 344 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: time ago, you know, just to look back at all 345 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: the virtual places I've traveled, it's like, I don't know's 346 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: it seems like geoguesser. I guess the we call center 347 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: part was just call center geo guesser. I guess I 348 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 4: knew the location. 349 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk more about this. You use this, 350 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: uh looking up people's dresses that you're helping with tech 351 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: support port and walking around their neighborhoods. Virtually, you use 352 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: it as a way to virtually travel. Correct. 353 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, basically. And there's been a few times where 354 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 4: I'm just stress and I'll just just type in a 355 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 4: random city or or zoom into somewhere in Europe and 356 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: go walk through the streets and street view and it's 357 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: been something that's pretty cool. I think more people should 358 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 4: do it, honestly. Now street view. 359 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: Now hunter, do you ever do you have the desire 360 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: to actually get out of your house and go to 361 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of new places? 362 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 4: Well, I drive. I drive the same kind of route 363 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: for work, so I do get out a bit. I've 364 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 4: never I've traveled to. When I was about twelve or thirteen, 365 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: I traveled to Texas and we went to Mexico just 366 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: for day, and it's just a different world. Everything's so different. 367 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: It just seems extremely extremely different. 368 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Hunter, Do you do you do you still work remotely? No? 369 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't anymore. Actually I used to go on stream 370 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: view a lot more. And this is like back in 371 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 4: like twenty fourteen. I think, do. 372 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: You still go on street view at all? 373 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: I haven't, But during the pandemic I randomly picked it 374 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: back up just as I stress relief or you know, 375 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: it's just a random curiosity thing. 376 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: Hunter, I feel as though you might. I mean, look, man, 377 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: you're doing all this traveling through Google Maps. That's good 378 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: that you're finding a way to use your desires. But 379 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to make of you, 380 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: because it sounds like you have this deep desire within 381 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: you to go and actually travel. 382 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely it's hard because I love where 383 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: I live in Michigan, and you know, just for life circumstances, 384 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: I'm pretty comfortable in my situation. 385 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Hunter. People do this thing. People People people go on 386 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: vacations where they don't they continue to live where they 387 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: currently live, and they travel to another place only briefly, 388 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: and then return back to where they live. 389 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: That is a good proposition. I feel like I would 390 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: have to travel far enough to where it's a bit different, 391 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: Like I haven't been up to the up and it's 392 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: pretty intense, it's very snowy. I think Canada would be cool. 393 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 4: I think we're going to go into Canada. It would 394 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: be a cool goal for this year. 395 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well, uh, I. 396 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 4: Guess I'll put myself in Canada season places to go 397 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: in Canada. 398 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to think if I have any comments 399 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: as to how I feel about you looking up people's addresses. 400 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't feel strongly about it. 401 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: Was it a little bit unethical? I think that I 402 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: was responsible, I think, and uh, you know, i'd never 403 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: give out some of these address. 404 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to will look full all that ship 405 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: and all the back and forth about that. I just 406 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: want to get to the underlying thing with you, Okay, 407 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: because you're you're you're sweetly talking about all this Google 408 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: maps stuff. But what's all I really care about with you, 409 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: and I think we've gotten somewhere with it is is 410 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: what's what What's what's lying underneath all of this? Is 411 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: it a desire to actually go places? And if it 412 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: is what what opportunities do you have, if any, What 413 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: opportunities can you create to actually be able to go 414 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: and do that. 415 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: I think it was a I wanted a kind of 416 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 4: visual way to see. I don't want to say how 417 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 4: other people live, but just you know, other other It's 418 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: hard to put in the words just the human experience 419 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: of every person, Like I guess it's a parasocial connection 420 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: to each person. Sometimes when people would be really angry 421 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: at me, I would angrily look up their address and 422 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 4: I'd be like, no, well, that's that's kind of shitty 423 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 4: to just creep on somebody like that. I didn't want 424 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 4: to ever feel like I was intruding. If somebody wouldn't 425 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: invite me in their house, I wouldn't look them up. 426 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: You know. I think actually going and doing it is 427 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 4: a lot of It's a lot of work, but I 428 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 4: think in small steps all I'm when to travel like 429 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 4: I good people hopefully this summer. 430 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: I don't know, has someone ever been angry with you 431 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: and you've looked at their house and you've thought about 432 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: stealing things from their front yard. 433 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 4: I did have a It was a guy that called 434 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: me and complained that his wife I didn't reach and 435 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: I looked up his house and it was this massive house, Surrey. 436 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: I really don't know what to tell you can get 437 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: extenders or something that, And he seemed to get really 438 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 4: mad at me just for I don't know. I try 439 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 4: to be a nice guy and offer the best solution, 440 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: trying to be a kind person, and I just hung 441 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 4: up on him. I couldn't take it. I just hung up. 442 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 4: And I feel kind of bad about just hanging up 443 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 4: and not being able to resolve that. 444 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: Hunter. I hope you protect your own peace. Okay, that's 445 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: what I'll leave you with. I hope you protect your 446 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: own peace having people yell at you all the time. 447 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: And I don't know whether or not it's ethical for 448 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: you to fucking look at people's houses on Google Maps, 449 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: but I do know that I'm going to be thinking 450 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: about that every time ill somebody on the phone for 451 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: tech support. 452 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I think everybody in show will be. 453 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Too, Hunter. Is there anything else you want to say 454 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go? 455 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: No, I appreciate your work. Kick. I will love on 456 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: my can and chill out and listen to Ress Dream. 457 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Hunter Bo. Hello, Caroline, how are Yeah? 458 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: What's going on. 459 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm great. My husband left me to go to Texas 460 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: for work. I'm just chilling with my dog watching a 461 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: Get Go. It's it's a good Wednesday night. 462 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't complain beautiful. How can I get you today, Caroline? 463 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: You know you've been taking some heavy calls and uh, 464 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: I just wanted to call in to just give a 465 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: shout out and to all the blanky adults out there. 466 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: I'm twenty five years old, i am about to have 467 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: my first child, and I'm still out here sleeping with 468 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: not one, but three baby blankets. And I've done my 469 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: research and it seems that they're around twenty to thirty 470 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: percent of adults has some sort of comforting item to 471 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: sleep with. 472 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: I just wanted to discuss that. 473 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that sleeping I'm gonna take the position here, Caroline, 474 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: that sleeping with a blanket is rather normal. 475 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: But a baby blanket like a. 476 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: Blankie, what is the difference? 477 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: It's small. Mostly if you're twenty five years old like me, 478 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: it's probably really tattered. It's seen, it seems seen some 479 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: better days, it's for sure, you know. And I always 480 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: I was always very insecure about it. I grew up 481 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: with like sleep problems, you know, And I was always 482 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: the girl at the sleepovers even in high school, like 483 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: bringing my baby blanket and like hiding it and stuff. 484 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 3: And then I was like and I looked it up, 485 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: and I was like, does this mean there's something wrong 486 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: with me? Is there some unanswered trauma that I've never 487 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: kind of taken a look at? And I looked it 488 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: up and they're like. 489 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: No, no, this is okay, And it's okay for me 490 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: to do this because many adults will turn to you know, 491 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 5: alcohol and drugs instead, and it took a really dark turn, but. 492 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just do you don't want to end up 493 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: having to go to b a. 494 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: No blank He's anonymous, you know what. I'm gonna don't 495 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: see if there's any around here in Nashville. I'm sure 496 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: that they're weirder things that Caroline. 497 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: Here's my thoughts on this is uh, I don't understand. 498 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: I guess to me, I don't understand what you're psyching 499 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: yourself up about because this idea of a baby blanket 500 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: is is redundant to me. I'm just trying to give 501 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: a word, and I'm gonna go with redundant because you're 502 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: it's fucking it's fabric. It's soft. Yeah stuff. People sleep 503 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: with comforters and sheets and pillow and soft things to 504 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: make them fall asleep. The this your blanket is people 505 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: sleep with blankets all the time. It's it's a piece 506 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: of fabric that is soft. I think it's literally the 507 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: the uh consideration of the object, the labeling that you're 508 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: psyching yourself up about. Uh where it's just if it's 509 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: a fucking blanket, what's the big deal? 510 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: But would you would you like scream bloody murder if 511 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: somehow you are comforter or you're you're just a blanket 512 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: that you have on your bed disappeared one day, or 513 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: or if your house caught on fire and your blankets 514 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: went up in flames, Like would that for life? 515 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: I I think losing my comforter and my house getting 516 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: lit on fire are two very different scenarios. Uh. One 517 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: would cause me far less alarm. Are you saying that 518 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 1: your concern or the thing that you find strange is 519 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: that you have an attachment with your blanket that is 520 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: to the point where you would scream bloody murder if 521 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: you ever lost it? 522 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: Oh? 523 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yeah. Not that it's a you know, I 524 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: feel like there are there are worse things. There are 525 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: for sure worse things, and I've kept them around this 526 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: long without without losing them. But I don't know. I 527 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 3: just and since I'm I'm bringing a child into this world, 528 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 3: like are that it will he be like yo, my 529 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: like my mom's like a blanky adult Like will he 530 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: will he grow up and like tell his friends and 531 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: be like, yo, my mom's a weirdo because she's like 532 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: she has blankies. And I don't know, I'm just well, 533 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: you have me? 534 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: Can I say you have a long you have a 535 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: long time until then because I assume your child is 536 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: also going to have a blanket. So he's a piece 537 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: of shit hypocrite if he says that about. 538 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: You, oh for sure. And then this falls on me 539 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 3: because I'm like, if I have, if I have a blanky, 540 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: a blanky lover myself, like I need to pick out 541 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: the perfect one. And while I'm doing that, I'm gonna 542 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: be honest. While I'm doing that, like I've been I've 543 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: been looking. I've been you know, scrolling on Amazon whatever, 544 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: trying to find like the best quality blankets, and it's 545 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 3: like almost tempting to pick one up for me as well. 546 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: Because those ones that I have here, I mean, like, 547 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, they're saying around, I'm not getting 548 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: rid of him. Many times I want to. 549 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: I want to go down a path with this. Okay, 550 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: So the blanket itself is sleeping with a blanket. Again, 551 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: in my head, it's completely normal. People sleep with blankets. 552 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Whether you call it a baby blanket or you call 553 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: it or whatever, it's a It's a fucking piece of fabric. 554 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: I think what is interesting, though, is the attachment to 555 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: the piece of fabric. So when you say that, you 556 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: would scream bloody murder, like you have a very visceral, emotional, 557 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: intense attachment to the blanket. Is it one specific? Is 558 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: this a specific blanket that's been with you for a 559 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: very long time? 560 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: Yes, three, I have three of them. My mom has 561 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 3: a shopping addiction and she bought me three of the 562 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: same blankets, And yes, I have all three of them. 563 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: They're next me right now. And I have a purple 564 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: teddy bear too, So that there, you know, they take 565 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 3: up some room how long at kings heist mattress because 566 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: we're not We're not all gonna I'm not all going 567 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 3: to fit on here anymore with the dog, and my 568 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: pregnancy pillow and all my blankies. 569 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: How long have you had those items for. 570 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: Since I was since I was a baby. They've been 571 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: around twenty five years now, they're and they're they're still kicking. 572 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean they're they're tattered, they're ripped, they have holes 573 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: in them, like I have to hand wash them and 574 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: the air dry be very gentle. 575 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: So these are objects, all apart the s. These are 576 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: objects that hold sentimental value to you. 577 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: Yes, more than like I picture myself being buried with 578 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 3: these one day. Tell tell like that they've just they've 579 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: been with me since the beginning of time, my time 580 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: at least. 581 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: So listen, is it it's Look, it's not weird to sleep. 582 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: It's fairly normal to sleep with a blank to sleep 583 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: with a blanket. Everyone does. Sleeps with a comforter. Blanket 584 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: and sheets are all the same fucking thing to me. 585 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about what they're all called. 586 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: They are a soft thing you put over yourself when 587 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: you sleep. So we all sleep with a get of 588 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: some kind. And it's a normal thing to have emotional 589 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: investments and sentimental objects that have been in around your 590 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: whole life. Now, question does the here's where it gets. 591 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: Does the blanket come with you to the grocery store 592 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: and the bank? 593 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: No? 594 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 3: No, on vacation, if I'm staying somewhere, if I'm if 595 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: we're you know, going away somewhere, blank blankets come with 596 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 3: But do I shove it in my bag to go 597 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: grocery shopping? I do not. 598 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: Is Linus a personal hero of yours? 599 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 3: You know what? I don't know why I haven't thought 600 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: of this before, but yes, it's I don't know how 601 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 3: it doesn't get torn at the scenes from dragging it 602 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 3: all around everywhere. 603 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: But I do know what I know. Is it because 604 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: it's animated, it's because he's a cartoon? Yes, yeah, But 605 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: we don't all have that kind of privilege in our lives. 606 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: We don't. 607 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: Well Listen, Caroline, I I I know it sounds like 608 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: you uh, you're you're, you're, And I don't know. I 609 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: hope you take this in a positive way. I hope, 610 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: I hope it's helpful for you. But it sounds like 611 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: you're psyching yourself up over a lot that I don't 612 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: think is worth being. Uh, I don't know. 613 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: Psychic very good yea, oh, I'm very good at doing 614 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 3: that I'm very good at doing that with other things 615 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: as well. They're probably more important than this. But uh, 616 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 3: it seems all like top of the line. M a 617 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 3: lot if I'm if I just get philosophical with myself 618 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 3: too much. 619 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Uh if your house did light on fire, 620 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: I think that's worth getting psyched up about. I wanted 621 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: to say that as well. You know what, Look, if 622 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: you're here's the thing. Do you have a Do you 623 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: have a job? 624 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 2: I do. 625 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: I I am a business owner. 626 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: What do you what's your business? 627 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 3: I own a social media management company. 628 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, I look it sounds like that. That's 629 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: that's a thing that took you a long time to build. 630 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: You're a fucking adult. You pay your bills on time, 631 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: you have a child, you have a job. All right, 632 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: go buy yourself a blanket, Caroline. I actually I'm gonna 633 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: say I'm gonna put I'm gonna say this, Caroline. I'm 634 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna say this crazy thing. I think you, with the 635 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: money that you make as an adult, making the intentional 636 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: decision to proudly purchase and use a blanket for yourself 637 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: is quite the opposite of a childlike decision. I think 638 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: it's an incredibly adult decision to make, so I implore you 639 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: to make it confidently. 640 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to go all out. I'm 641 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 3: gonna find a goosey blanket or that. I bet they 642 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: have those out there, don't. 643 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: They well be financially responsible for us that that is 644 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: actually how people end up in BA. 645 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 3: So yes, I will you know what you're You're so 646 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: right about that, I'm gonna I'll look at Amazon first 647 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: and see is. 648 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: There anything that you want to say to the people 649 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: of the computer before we go. 650 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: I guess listen, if if getting it's getting to gekin 651 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: gets rough sometimes, you know, I'm in Nashville during the 652 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: Nashville show. We can always switch places and I can 653 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 3: and I can put on the suit. You can chat 654 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: to me. I don't have I don't have any uh 655 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 3: psychiatric experience either. But if you want to reverse the roles, this. 656 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that I have feel like. This doesn't mean 657 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: I have to like make Facebook posts for a dentist, 658 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: do I. 659 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I more meant you can tell me your problems 660 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: on stage. But but hey, if you yeah, if you're 661 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: good at I mean, you're great at engaging with audiences, 662 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 3: it's just that and I'll throw you the content and 663 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 3: you can write a fun caption if you want to 664 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 3: do my social media job. But yes, if you want 665 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 3: to switch roles at your show and you talk to me, 666 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: you let me know. 667 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Caroline, you have a good rest of 668 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: the night. 669 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 3: You as well. Thanks. 670 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: I would do that, but I don't trust her, no offense. 671 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: I like Caroline, but you know, so there are some things. 672 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: You know, we can cut all everything that I just said, 673 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: and we can just end it right when the call ends. 674 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: You know what, no, actually know what. Don't cut it. 675 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: I said what I said. I'm a fucking idiot. Hello. 676 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 4: Hello, how you doing. 677 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you doing well? 678 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: Thanks? 679 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: What's what's going on with you this evening? My friend? Oh? 680 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 4: Nothing, just uh, you know, watching stream, hanging out. I 681 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 4: had a little something on my mind recently figured to 682 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 4: talk to you about it. 683 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: Hit men. 684 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 4: So I just got back from some travel and anywhere 685 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,439 Speaker 4: I go I tend to just kind of people watch. 686 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 4: That's kind of my job. One thing that I noticed, though, 687 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 4: is that when you have conversations with people that you 688 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 4: don't necessarily know, you've never really interacted with with, there's 689 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 4: there's kind of a a direction that that conversation is 690 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 4: supposed to go. 691 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, tell me more about this direction that you 692 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: feel like the conversation. 693 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 4: So sure, So, for instance, how we just started this conversation, 694 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 4: it's hey, how are you? I'm well, how are you? 695 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: And generally it's kind of forced in a direction that 696 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 4: isn't necessarily giving any substance to the conversation. It feels 697 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 4: kind of superficial. And I just got back from Vegas 698 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 4: and I kind of noticed that that's almost every interaction 699 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 4: I had personally and just watching people, it's the same way. 700 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 4: There's no real connection between people. 701 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: Have you felt this way for a while, Yeah, yeah, I. 702 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 4: Suppose I've noticed it for some time. 703 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 3: It's a. 704 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something I've always picked up on, I guess, 705 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 4: and something that I've always participated in as well. It 706 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 4: just seems like that's kind of the natural progression. 707 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: So you say it's something that you participate in. Are 708 00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: you trying to have more vulnerable, deeper open conversations with 709 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: other people? 710 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 4: I suppose so, I guess it's hard to tell when 711 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 4: somebody would be receptive to that. You don't necessarily want 712 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 4: to make them uncomfortable with it. 713 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I got a ton of thoughts on this. 714 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: I feel like in yes, it's true, there's a lot 715 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: of situations where people are doing a dance or they're 716 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: being you know, somewhat superficial or level one or whatever 717 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: you could call that. But I think for you man, 718 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: the thing to do, and tell me if you already 719 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: do this, is you have to be vulnerable first. You 720 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: You can't expect other people to let their guard down 721 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: and open up to you if you're not gonna go 722 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: there first, you know what I'm saying. Do you ever 723 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: do that? Do you ever sort of let your guard 724 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: down when you're talking to people and try to engage 725 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: them in the kind of conversation that you're hoping to 726 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: be engaged in? You know not? 727 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 4: I can't say that I have too often. I guess 728 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 4: there's always the worry that you may make somebody uncomfortable 729 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 4: by being vulnerable towards them. You know, that's a that's 730 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 4: a good point though. 731 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: So it's a fear that you're gonna like say something 732 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: that's gonna be awkward and make the other person uncomfortable. 733 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 4: Uh huh, I I suppose so, yeah, sure, it's I 734 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 4: guess it's it's that connection is not quite there yet. 735 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 4: If you're vulnerable with them, it may close the doors 736 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 4: to being able to make a more meaningful connection. 737 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: Can I bring up another idea, So, if you're afraid 738 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: that you're going to be vulnerable and that your vulnerability 739 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: is going to turn somebody off, the thing is is 740 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: if you're trying to surround yourself with and engage in 741 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: conversations with open minded, vulnerable people, then when you open 742 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: yourself up and start being vulnerable, either the person will 743 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 1: respond positively and you will get to engage with them 744 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: in the kind of conversation that you wanted to engage with, 745 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: or if they respond negatively, it doesn't matter because they 746 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: weren't the kind of person that you wanted to engage 747 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: with anyway. 748 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 4: That is an excellent point right there. Yeah, that's true. Hmmm, 749 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 4: it's a I guess, uh. And at a certain point, 750 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 4: you can't be vulnerable to every single person you talk to, 751 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 4: So I guess there's got to be a kind of 752 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 4: a decider of spencer. 753 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: You can spencer, you can fuck it, you can do 754 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: whatever you want. You can be however you desire to 755 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: be in the worlds to people you can bring up 756 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: your parents' divorce in every conversation that you have if 757 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: you really fucking want to, and you will attract other 758 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: people who are like that as well. There are no 759 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: rules that you really need to follow, you know. 760 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 4: That's that's that's a good point. I I wonder what 761 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,959 Speaker 4: kind of brought on that The general ebb and flow 762 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 4: of conversation that we have right now where it's like 763 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 4: super supersful is uh, you know that everybody has. 764 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's fear. You've ever been to a fucking music 765 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: festival and everyone's on ecstasy and they're all like spilling 766 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: to each other? Oh yeah, it's everyone's That's all that's 767 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: in everyone, that's in the you know, the thing that 768 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: the person who works in accounting fucking is spilling to 769 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: everyone while they're on ecstasy at the music festival, that's 770 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: still in them when they're at their computer doing their 771 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: EXCEL reports. 772 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 3: You know. 773 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: It's just that the environment and the drug and whatever 774 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: it is is letting it come out. But it's in there, 775 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: and if you want to take an opportunity to try 776 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: to tap into it at a time, at a situation 777 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: that's not a fucking music festival everrans on ecstasy and 778 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,399 Speaker 1: you want to tap into it. I think people would 779 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: be excited by that. They'd be excited to talk to 780 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: you because they know that they can be vulnerable with you, 781 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: because you're being vulnerable with them. 782 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 4: Sure, I could, I could see that. I wonder so 783 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 4: if your inhibitions are removed and you get vulnerable with 784 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 4: somebody but they're stuck in the idea of those societal standards, 785 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 4: you may get a false negative reaction from them that 786 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 4: could have been a connection in a more comfortable space. 787 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, But you gotta take the time. You gotta, 788 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta kind of give a little bit 789 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: extra than what they're expecting and then listen to them 790 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: to make it so that they, you know, feel as 791 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: though their words to you are actually being received. 792 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, that's a good point. 793 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: Can I can I recommend a book for you to read? 794 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 4: You absolutely came. Let me grab a pens, all right? 795 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: So this is this is this is a dating book 796 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: that I read what really kind of changed a lot 797 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: of how I think about communicating with people. It is 798 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 1: a dating book, but it's it applies to any kind 799 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: of interaction. It doesn't necessarily have to be a romantic 800 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: or anything like that interaction. But you should read this book. 801 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: It's called Models. It's by a dude named Mark Manson. 802 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: He wrote another book called The Subtle Art of Not 803 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: Giving a Fuck, which is more popular book. 804 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 4: But I've heard of that. 805 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you should read this book. Again. It's 806 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: a dating book, but I think the concepts in it 807 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: applied to you know, all sorts of life stuff that 808 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with dating. 809 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 4: Sure, okay, yeah, So so I take it then that 810 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 4: you you've had similar feelings towards bringing them interactions. 811 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm always thinking about that stuff. I'm 812 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: always trying to give a little bit more if I 813 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: feel like it. Sometimes I don't have the emotional energy 814 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: for it, And that's another reason why people might That's 815 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: another reason why people might act cold to you if 816 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: you are putting yourself out there. But I hope that 817 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: doesn't distract you from putting yourself out there. 818 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 2: Sure. 819 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh you want to say to the people of 820 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: the computer before we go, or any other aspect of 821 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: this that you felt like we didn't cover. 822 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, My buddy Andy absolutely loves you, and he 823 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 4: kind of put me on to you. So I appreciate 824 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 4: your time. 825 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: Tell Andy, I said, uh, I was gonna say, tell Andy, 826 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: I said, he's a good guy, But I don't know Andy, 827 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 1: so I can't make that assumption. Well, but I think 828 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to say it anyway to be nice. Expensive 829 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: of course, thanks. 830 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 4: Call it the repeat. 831 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: Get goes off the line, taking your phone calls. 832 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 4: Every night, never beat cant goes to his right. 833 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 2: Was teaching you 834 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: About your life, but he's not really an expert.