Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production
Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson
Speaker 1: and I'm Holly Frye. We talked about electric cardiograms this week.
Speaker 1: We sure did. You're wondering why we didn't postpone recording
Speaker 1: because I have a little cold. We did. We did,
Speaker 1: in fact postpone the recording. We got to the end
Speaker 1: of the window for postponing things, so it became we
Speaker 1: got to record the podcast. Now, I will say it
Speaker 1: does seem like the fates have been trying to get
Speaker 1: us to not record this time. Yeah, it's been a
Speaker 1: kind of an ordeal this particular week. I'm going a
Speaker 1: prefaces by saying I'm not asking for medical advice. Please
Speaker 1: do not send medical advice if you find yourself writing
Speaker 1: an email that starts I know you said not to
Speaker 1: send medical advice, but please don't send that either. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the story of the two times
Speaker 1: that I got an electric cardiogram. So the first time,
Speaker 1: this was more than twenty years ago, I was having
Speaker 1: a palpitation issue. I worked at a place where we
Speaker 1: had a nurse, and so first I went to the
Speaker 1: nurse and told her what I was experiencing, and the
Speaker 1: nurse said that I should go to urgent care, which
Speaker 1: I did, and they hooked me up to the machine
Speaker 1: and that was normal. Then they were like, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: going to just put you on this monitor for a while.
Speaker 1: Just chill out in this room and we'll be back
Speaker 1: to check on you in a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: said cool. While they were gone, I started to really
Speaker 1: need to pee and it was one of those things
Speaker 1: where I couldn't stop thinking about it, and the like
Speaker 1: need to go to the bathroom was stressing me out.
Speaker 1: And then that was making the monitor like that was
Speaker 1: making my heart rate go up, which I was also
Speaker 1: aware of because I could see and hear the monitor
Speaker 1: and it was a cycle. And finally the nurse came
Speaker 1: back in. It was like whoa, what is going on?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I've got to be so bad anyway,
Speaker 1: the urgent care at that time also this becomes a
Speaker 1: story about how our medical system in the United States
Speaker 1: has broken. This is pre Affordable Care Act that we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Is how long ago this was still broken.
Speaker 1: They wanted to give me an event monitor, which is
Speaker 1: kind of like a Halter monitor, but instead of continually
Speaker 1: recording my heart I was supposed to mash a button
Speaker 1: when I was experiencing the palpitation feeling that I was having.
Speaker 1: Because nothing had other than the fact that when I
Speaker 1: urgently needed to use the bathroom, my heart rate was
Speaker 1: very high. Nothing had seemed unusual at urgent Care, so
Speaker 1: they give me this thing. I at this point was
Speaker 1: working as a massage therapist in a very fancy spa
Speaker 1: and the monitor was under my clothing. It wasn't visible
Speaker 1: to people. But the first time that I needed to
Speaker 1: activate it, I was in the elevator at work, sort
Speaker 1: of behind the scenes, and I learned that it made
Speaker 1: an audible noise that I would compare to the sound
Speaker 1: of a dial up modem connecting. Gotcha, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't wear this at work. I am a massage therapist. Like,
Speaker 1: if I'm in a room with a client and I
Speaker 1: mashed this thing, it's going to do this. And if
Speaker 1: I just don't mash it, because it's going to make
Speaker 1: this loud noise in the middle of somebody's massage, like,
Speaker 1: then I'm not getting the thing, Like I'm not getting
Speaker 1: the monitoring that I'm supposed to be getting, so I
Speaker 1: called the urgent Care and they were like, just send
Speaker 1: it back. Months pass and I get a bill for
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars, which is a tiny amount of money
Speaker 1: compared to a lot of today's medical medical bills. But
Speaker 1: it was six hundred dollars that I did not have
Speaker 1: because the provider for the event monitor was out of network,
Speaker 1: and because for some reason I didn't get a bill
Speaker 1: for this until months after it had like the service
Speaker 1: had happened. I was passed the deadline to to like
Speaker 1: file like to get them to get the insurance company
Speaker 1: to like revisit their denial of the claim right, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't I don't have six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Nobody talked to me about this costing six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Nobody talked to me about the fact that the provider
Speaker 1: for this thing was out of network. Apparently no one
Speaker 1: thought to see if they were in my network before
Speaker 1: signing me up for a six hundred dollar thing. That
Speaker 1: they didn't the signing me up for a six hundred
Speaker 1: dollar thing without like talking to me about it. And
Speaker 1: then I moved away and that was the end of that.
Speaker 1: And decades have passed without me ever again hearing about
Speaker 1: that six hundred dollars, like it never went to collections
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's just a whole it's a
Speaker 1: whole weird thing that is weird. That was all probably
Speaker 1: stress related. I don't know's it's the problem stopped happening. Hooray.
Speaker 1: That time I did have irritation from the adhesive on
Speaker 1: the the electrons. This time, we have talked about how
Speaker 1: I have been, like, I have hypertension, I'm on medication
Speaker 1: for my blood pressure. I needed to have my dosage
Speaker 1: adjusted and I had gone for a follow up for
Speaker 1: that and my doctor was like, why is your heart
Speaker 1: rate a little high? And I said I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I had been putting in my pulse along with
Speaker 1: my blood pressure readings, and she was like, it's been
Speaker 1: a little high pretty much this whole time. Let's get
Speaker 1: let's get an EKG. I at my physical I had
Speaker 1: already gotten all of the of the various blood work
Speaker 1: for things that might cause a person to have an
Speaker 1: elevated heart rate, and all of that had been normal,
Speaker 1: and the the EKG was almost was like also normal.
Speaker 1: And when I was asked, have you ever had one
Speaker 1: of these before? I was like, oh, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: probably more than twenty years ago at this point. She
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, this is it. It's changed almost none
Speaker 1: since then, but the machine will probably take less time.
Speaker 1: And for my specific experience, the adhesive electrodes did not
Speaker 1: cause me any irritation whatsoever, which I was glad about
Speaker 1: because I do tend to react to adhesives. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: do too in medical contexts. So it was a great
Speaker 1: move for me to drop the very unwieldy topic for
Speaker 1: this because I was like, I bet I can do
Speaker 1: an electro cardiogram episode way faster than I can finish
Speaker 1: this unwieldy thing. That turned out to be totally correct.
Speaker 1: Even working through having a cold the whole time. I
Speaker 1: did not feel ill enough during the work week to
Speaker 1: need to take sick days. My voice sounded terrible. I
Speaker 1: returned to the unwieldy topic, which is coming. I definitely
Speaker 1: would not have finished it on time. I continued trying
Speaker 1: to work on it. It turned out to be kind
Speaker 1: of a tangle. It is coming, though I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: spoil what it is. It's gonna be soon. There. One
Speaker 1: of the papers that I read while researching this was
Speaker 1: about automated ECG interpretation, and it was called Automated ECG Interpretation,
Speaker 1: A brief History from high Expectations to deepest Networks in
Speaker 1: the journal Hearts And here's a quote quote. The purpose
Speaker 1: of this article is to review the development of automated
Speaker 1: ECG processing from its beginnings to the present day, with
Speaker 1: the hope that between the time the article was written
Speaker 1: and published there will not have been some world shattering
Speaker 1: development to make the content of this paper outdated. I mean,
Speaker 1: I found that hilarious, the refrain of all scientists everywhere
Speaker 1: right now. Yep. We have occasionally recorded an episode on
Speaker 1: something on the podcast and then in less than twenty
Speaker 1: four hours there's a major discovery of that related to that,
Speaker 1: something that seems more likely to happen in a field
Speaker 1: like automated ECG interpretation. I also noted we've had a
Speaker 1: number of medical episodes lately, and they've been pretty focused
Speaker 1: on Europe and North America, and I think some of
Speaker 1: that has to do with like where the centers of
Speaker 1: academic and medical research were, But then some of it
Speaker 1: is also probably just information availability. It's totally possible that
Speaker 1: there were other discoveries elsewhere in the world. That I
Speaker 1: just did not uncover in what I was working on.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to and not acknowledge that this topic
Speaker 1: reminded me of a thing that I forgot. Okay, which
Speaker 1: is it. I don't think I had ever had an
Speaker 1: EKG until last year, which is I've talked about it
Speaker 1: on the show. I'm fine, everything's fine. But I had
Speaker 1: been having weird chest pain. Oh yeah, And I had
Speaker 1: done a like is this heart burn? Because I almost
Speaker 1: feel like a jerk for saying this. I had never
Speaker 1: experienced heart burn in my life. I can eat all
Speaker 1: of the cruel and evil things and the most I
Speaker 1: will do is burp, but I don't get a burning
Speaker 1: sensation like I don't. So I did not know. And
Speaker 1: I did a telehealth consult because it was like the
Speaker 1: middle of the night, and the doctor that I talked
Speaker 1: to was like, Hey, you're in your fifties. This could
Speaker 1: be a heart attack. Maybe you go to the er now.
Speaker 1: And I went to the er and I didn't even
Speaker 1: have like this information all the way out of my
Speaker 1: mouth before like an orderly came screeching around the corner
Speaker 1: with the cart and was like, I'm still filling out
Speaker 1: paperwork and they did it and they're like, hey, your
Speaker 1: heart's fine, your heart's actually great, and I was like, okay, good.
Speaker 1: I thought I would go home, but that was when
Speaker 1: I had my gallbladder out. But the other thing that
Speaker 1: I had quite forgotten was that I'm presuming it was
Speaker 1: some form of a halter EKG. When I was admitted
Speaker 1: and I was in the hospital, they continued to monitor
Speaker 1: my heart just for safety, and so I had one
Speaker 1: that lived or I had, you know, electrodes that lived
Speaker 1: on me. And I didn't know until later when I
Speaker 1: was like, what the heck's going on that it was
Speaker 1: sending all of my info continuously via Wi Fi to
Speaker 1: the nurses station. Oh yeah, until I like scratched myself
Speaker 1: in my sleep and undid one of the electrodes, which
Speaker 1: to them looked like I was crashing. And right right
Speaker 1: there were a lot of very concerned people in my room,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what what's happening? Yeah, wonderful of them
Speaker 1: to be on the spot, but yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: a dang dong that moved my gown around and scratched
Speaker 1: it myself in a way that yeah, ruined their feedback.
Speaker 1: I don't fully know what happened because you are typically
Speaker 1: not conscious during a colonoscopy unless you're me. I wake
Speaker 1: him every time when I had been taken to the
Speaker 1: recovery room after I got a colonoscopy, and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I had been brought my clothing and I
Speaker 1: was in kind of like, you know, a private area
Speaker 1: where I would recombobulate myself. They were unhooking me from things,
Speaker 1: and then somebody went, oh, that explains it. And similarly,
Speaker 1: like a monitor wire had had come off of what
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be attached to. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: what was happening in the room while my thing was
Speaker 1: going on? Was somebody like, I don't know, something seems wrong,
Speaker 1: but she seems fine. Whatever it was was a dislodged monitor.
Speaker 1: You also gave me an unwieldy things memory. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: of a recent event. Okay, so some time ago, perhaps
Speaker 1: a year and a half, huh, I was working on
Speaker 1: a subject which became unwieldy. Yeah, and I kind of
Speaker 1: abandoned it and then I forgot all about it. And
Speaker 1: recently it has come to my attention that my sewing
Speaker 1: room must be reorganized. It's really like in a rough shape.
Speaker 1: If somebody looked at it. They wouldn't trust me to
Speaker 1: make a bed, let alone make a garment like it.
Speaker 1: It's become such a mess. And so I started like
Speaker 1: basically pulling everything out of there, running stuff to our
Speaker 1: storage unit, and then we're gonna put in new shelving
Speaker 1: and like rebuild it out. But while I was doing that,
Speaker 1: I uncovered several books that had become buried under fabric
Speaker 1: that I had been using to research this other subject.
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, I wonder how far along I
Speaker 1: am on that. Maybe I should pick that b Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it might still happen. We'll see, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: My wieldy topic is definitely happening. It is I would
Speaker 1: say seventy percent written at this point. Once I got
Speaker 1: all of my note taking done. It was not like
Speaker 1: the writing process has gone really quickly on it, but
Speaker 1: like there was just too much left to do for
Speaker 1: it to have been done in that amount of time.
Speaker 1: So my one last thing that I have written on
Speaker 1: my list of notes that I made for myself about
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes for this. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I wound up on the villain Eintoven Wikipedia page, because
Speaker 1: like we don't that's not that's not where I'm researching episodes.
Speaker 1: So I think I might have like clicked on somebody
Speaker 1: else's source link on their thing and it turned out
Speaker 1: to be Wikipedia or whatever. But there is a Jack
Speaker 1: the Ripper section on the villain Wanchoven Wikipedia page alleging
Speaker 1: that he was a suspect for being Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 1: I was shocked by this because until reading that paragraph,
Speaker 1: I had thought about what a nice guy he seemed
Speaker 1: to be, Like, he seemed to be very focused on
Speaker 1: giving other people credit for their work, even though that
Speaker 1: you know, like he didn't necessarily need to credit someone
Speaker 1: who did work independently of him, where they came to
Speaker 1: a similar conclusion, but he did. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what he was like as a person, but the fact
Speaker 1: that he wanted to split his nobel money with an
Speaker 1: earlier assistant also a thing that I that just sort
Speaker 1: of was like, this seems like he might have been
Speaker 1: a nice guy. And then I get to somehow on
Speaker 1: the Wikipedia page and there's this Jack the Ripper thing.
Speaker 1: So then I started trying to like find out what
Speaker 1: people saying, we're saying about him possibly being Jack the Ripper,
Speaker 1: and I didn't find any other reference to it in
Speaker 1: any places that have stuff about potential Jack the Ripper's aspects.
Speaker 1: I have deories you do. Yeah, okay, because maybe dabbling
Speaker 1: more Jack the Ripper reading than you. But yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and I am by no means a Jack the Ripper
Speaker 1: expert in either, but I do love that story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a whole world of research that I have not
Speaker 1: touched in any way. But I will say there are
Speaker 1: two things that are like, oh, I see how he
Speaker 1: got on the list, uh huh. One is that almost
Speaker 1: any doctor practicing at the time got on the list
Speaker 1: at some point. The other is that he was a foreigner, sure,
Speaker 1: and a doctor and that Okay, that's like the double
Speaker 1: trouble of well, you have an accent, you clearly must
Speaker 1: hate women and be weird. So I think that's probably
Speaker 1: all it was. Or maybe he was a super creeper.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but uh, those are That pattern plays
Speaker 1: out a lot if you look at at a lot
Speaker 1: of the medical professionals in the area. It was like
Speaker 1: the crosshatching of like doctors check doctors who are foreign
Speaker 1: born check check check check check. Like it automatically and
Speaker 1: exponentially increased their their their suspect level for the authorities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was one of those things where I was like,
Speaker 1: where did this information come from? And it's got that
Speaker 1: tag on Wikipedia of citation needed, and that I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to like reverse engineer any sort of citation for it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I think that's all I've really got to
Speaker 1: say about electric cardiograms and today's behind scenes. I'll say
Speaker 1: hooray for them. Yeah, older than I realized they were.
Speaker 1: I mean I knew how that they are critical to
Speaker 1: cardiac care. I don't think I had a sense of
Speaker 1: just how many different things can be detected in one
Speaker 1: until really working on this. We talked about Albert Beerstott
Speaker 1: this week. Indeed, I almost said this weekend. I mean
Speaker 1: I did talk about him in the preceding weekend with
Speaker 1: friends and my husband, but that's not the same. His
Speaker 1: work is so staggeringly beautiful that the almost clinical way
Speaker 1: he approached it boggles my mind. Yeah. Occasionally when we
Speaker 1: talk about somebody having talent, like I will hear objections
Speaker 1: to the idea of talents as a thing, and it's like,
Speaker 1: there are definitely people who find some things that come
Speaker 1: very easily to them. Yes, And so when it comes
Speaker 1: to things like artistic talent. There are for sure people
Speaker 1: who find the process of making art and learning how
Speaker 1: to do it comes easy to them, and also people
Speaker 1: who like really have to work at it, and it
Speaker 1: feels like more of a struggle. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how he personally felt about the process of learning to
Speaker 1: make art, but it does seem clear from like the
Speaker 1: episode as he wrote it, that it was something that
Speaker 1: he intentionally worked toward, not something that he necessarily just
Speaker 1: felt an aptitude for from the beginning. No, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't find the accounts. But in that lecture that we
Speaker 1: mentioned that was given by Karen Quinn, I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't find her source for it, but she mentioned that
Speaker 1: accounts by his family are like, yeah, he wasn't actually
Speaker 1: very good at all, like growing up, we don't know
Speaker 1: how this happened. I mean, they know that he studied,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like he was like a thunder kind
Speaker 1: that was like, oh, yeah, this child will become a
Speaker 1: great painter. He will become one of the best known
Speaker 1: painters of our lives. Yeah. Yeah, I remember being in
Speaker 1: you know, art class in elementary school and the like,
Speaker 1: there was one kid who could just sketch these amazing
Speaker 1: lifelike sketches of people, while the entire rest of the
Speaker 1: class was like one step up from finger painting. I
Speaker 1: felt like that that was the case with him. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. I will say though, his family did
Speaker 1: seem to have an interest in visual media. And I
Speaker 1: say that because we mentioned in the episode that he
Speaker 1: was a pretty quick adopter of photography as a reference
Speaker 1: collection tool, right, and his brothers also did a lot
Speaker 1: of photography. One of his brothers became a professional photographer,
Speaker 1: and I found in one thing that I looked at
Speaker 1: and mentioned that he had actually opened a photography studio
Speaker 1: with his brothers that was quite successful, But I couldn't
Speaker 1: ever find verification of that, so I didn't include it
Speaker 1: in the episode. It may be that he financially backed
Speaker 1: them and he wasn't really involved in that business at all.
Speaker 1: But one of his brothers did have a lot of
Speaker 1: photography credits and helped him capture imagery sometimes when they
Speaker 1: traveled together, and I think his other brother also did
Speaker 1: some So I mean, again, I don't know much about
Speaker 1: that brother and whether or not he was like I
Speaker 1: love photography, it's my passion, or if he was like
Speaker 1: photographs seemed lucrative. I really really yeah, And I thought
Speaker 1: that quote that we included towards the end, that was
Speaker 1: written shortly before he died was really germane in all
Speaker 1: of this, because it's that line skill prevails over imagination
Speaker 1: in the Dusseldorf artists. They I mean, these are skillfully
Speaker 1: executed paintings. They are absolutely beautiful, in my opinion the
Speaker 1: way I understand why our listener El who wrote in
Speaker 1: was completely captivated by it, because the dramatic effect of
Speaker 1: lighting in particular is just it will it will stop
Speaker 1: you in your tracks. It's so beautiful, and it gets
Speaker 1: into a bigger discussion of the creator versus the audience,
Speaker 1: and like what the truly important part of that equation is, Right,
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter matter that he wasn't necessarily like I'm
Speaker 1: stricken with pain at the beauty of this, I must
Speaker 1: paint it, and was instead like, stamp a picture of that,
Speaker 1: Stamp a picture that I'm gonna pay this to my
Speaker 1: studio later. It doesn't matter to me that that was
Speaker 1: how that played out, because what matters to me is
Speaker 1: that a person was emotionally moved by it later. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's a whole big discussion of art. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting discussions going on in the art
Speaker 1: world right now about the meaning of the finances of
Speaker 1: art and like how art becomes treasured to a degree
Speaker 1: that the average person cannot possess art, and like what
Speaker 1: it means to actually like the inflation of art value
Speaker 1: and what art value means, which gets very heavy and interesting.
Speaker 1: There lots of interesting discussions you can find about it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, my thing has always been I don't
Speaker 1: care if this person was doing this for any particular reason.
Speaker 1: I don't care if they were moved. I'm sure moved
Speaker 1: by it. Like, Yeah, I mostly see this kind of
Speaker 1: discourse in the in the context of writing rather than
Speaker 1: visual art, just because of the kinds of folks that
Speaker 1: I tend to to follow, And I would say I
Speaker 1: am familiar with the ongoing work of way more current
Speaker 1: writers than current visual artists, and I will often see
Speaker 1: discussions of the fact that, like the way we talk
Speaker 1: about writing and the way we talk about creativity, a
Speaker 1: lot of times people put this almost supernatural spin on
Speaker 1: it when like, it's it's work. Yeah, it's work, and
Speaker 1: people should be paid for their work and the like
Speaker 1: mythologizing of the whole creative process does a disservice to
Speaker 1: writing and other creative work from multiple angles. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean in the art world, this is a big part
Speaker 1: of that discussion, right, Like an artist is a professional
Speaker 1: maker of art, and they should be paid for their
Speaker 1: time and their effort and the time and effort that
Speaker 1: they spent you know, getting educated or practicing or whatever
Speaker 1: to get to the point that they can make something
Speaker 1: that you find of value enough that you want to
Speaker 1: have it in your home or in your life or whatever.
Speaker 1: This gets me on another soapbox, but like it's that
Speaker 1: juxtaposed against this person painted a piece of art, and
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, like in modern arts, sometimes
Speaker 1: people will be like, I don't see the technique in this,
Speaker 1: and yet it commands high for low five price tag,
Speaker 1: you know, five digit price tag, and people not understanding
Speaker 1: why that would be. And it is like a bigger
Speaker 1: discussion too about economic demand and markets and what people
Speaker 1: are actually paying for. Is it really the art or
Speaker 1: is it the status of owning the art? Like it's
Speaker 1: so heady and it's such a long and big thing.
Speaker 1: But my other thing is this, if you like art
Speaker 1: and we are also in a world where on the upside,
Speaker 1: artists and access to art has become a little more
Speaker 1: democratized in some ways. Right. You can find a lot
Speaker 1: of people online selling their art that make absolutely beautiful
Speaker 1: and incredible pieces of work. But often because I do
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends that are artists, it is
Speaker 1: shocking and mortifying to me how many people will try
Speaker 1: to haggle an artists down from their asking price. And
Speaker 1: it's like, because people think you made this, you could
Speaker 1: make more, why do you want so much money? You
Speaker 1: can just make another one. And it's like, no, because
Speaker 1: I spent time making this one, right, that is what
Speaker 1: you're paying for. Yeah, I also spent the time like
Speaker 1: learning and practicing and honing my craft, in honing my art. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wild to me. We believe in paying artists in
Speaker 1: this household. I feel strongly about this issue. Yeah. That's
Speaker 1: on my trip to Asheville from a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: At this point, they were having a festival in the
Speaker 1: River Arts District, which was one of the places that
Speaker 1: was devastated by Helene, with some of the with a
Speaker 1: lot of galleries and studios just absolutely destroyed. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it like if you look at the map of the
Speaker 1: River Arts District before Helene. It is maybe three times
Speaker 1: as big as the map of what was open when
Speaker 1: I was there. And I literally just walked around buying
Speaker 1: small pieces of art from people. Anything I saw that
Speaker 1: I liked that, I thought, Okay, I can get this
Speaker 1: in my luggage going home. I just bought it. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't remember what the point was
Speaker 1: of this besides the fact that, like, I loved seeing
Speaker 1: how many people there were who were out there selling
Speaker 1: their art and how different some of it was from
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, and I love that, and I love that,
Speaker 1: you know, there is a place that, you know, all
Speaker 1: of these various artists like created a place that was
Speaker 1: a home for this that they are now recreating in
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the hurricane. Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: such a believer in patronizing artists as much as you can.
Speaker 1: I think I've said before that my tattoo artist owns
Speaker 1: an art gallery, and it's a portion of the gallery
Speaker 1: space is what's set aside for tattoos, and so it
Speaker 1: is the dangerous equation of me sitting there for several
Speaker 1: hours at a time looking at beautiful art and not
Speaker 1: coming home having purchased. Yeah, there are so many times
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Brian, there's painting in the car, right,
Speaker 1: It's okay, and I love it. There's so much that
Speaker 1: That is where I had my birthday this year. I
Speaker 1: had a bunch of friends and we went to the
Speaker 1: gallery and they closed the gallery for us, and they
Speaker 1: designed flash just for us, and we all got tattoos
Speaker 1: and looked at art. And several of my friends were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I see why this is in fact a problem, right, right,
Speaker 1: She's just wonderful. More people patronize artists, take care, take
Speaker 1: care of the artists. There are lots of people that
Speaker 1: need patronizing, not in the negative, obejorative sense of that word,
Speaker 1: but in terms of like supporting them in their their careers.
Speaker 1: Artists are but one, but they're one that is very
Speaker 1: special to me. So if this is your weekend coming up,
Speaker 1: you can either buy some art from a local artist,
Speaker 1: or you can go to a museum and appreciate art
Speaker 1: that way that also supports the arts. If you don't
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