1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Time, Luck and load. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: He is not pardoning his son, which he could do. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 3: These are federal charges. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: He is not doing that. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: He's not doing it because he is living what it 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: means to have a rule of law in this country. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: And then it isn't I mean, if you want to know, 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: if he believes it, you could actually see what is 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: happening with his own son. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: If Biden has lost something with the American people over 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: the last few years. 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: It's that reminder. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: That he is sort of the opposite of Trump on empathy, right, 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 4: He's the opposite of Trump on some of these things. 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: And I think this verdict their reaction to it versus 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: how the Trumps have reacted to the rule of law. Certainly, 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: I think presents that character contrast. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 5: It. 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 6: Let's go get all that and give me the know 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 6: and you can't find it, so I. 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Can't call just them. I find into So. 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 7: I'm learned to take it well. 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Which it just defends myself. 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 5: It just goes for me. 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: But that's not the way it feels. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 7: Joe and Joe Biden, We're so concerned about their family 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 7: that they decided to run for president. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: So when you talk about the. 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 7: Word selfish, it's almost like the word doesn't. I mean, 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 7: their decision to run for president put the entire Democratic 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 7: Party and the United States of America in the position 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 7: that it's in. 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: That this pardon is just deflating for those of us 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: who have been out there for a few years now 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: yelling about what a unique threat Donald Trump is. For 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: Joe Biden to do something like this. 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Nobody's above the low. We've been screaming. 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 5: Well, Joe Biden just made clear his son Hunter is 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: above the law. 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 7: Isn't that. 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: They said, let's smoke it all that and kill me 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: the number and if you can't find it, so I can. 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: He calls Den, I'm fine, and the show overcomed and 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: Blue I'm to take it. Well, I don't wish my words. 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Just defends myself that it just wasn't read. But that's 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: not the way it. 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 5: Donald Trump lies every time he opens his mouth. We've 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: been screaming, Joe Biden repeatedly lied about this. This just 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: furthers the cynicism that people have about politics, and and 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: that cynicism strengthens Trump because Trump can just say I'm 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 5: not a unique threat. 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: Everybody does this if I. 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: Do something for my kid, my son in law, whatever. 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Look, Joe Biden. 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Does the same. 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: I get it. But this was a selfish move by Biden, 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 5: which politically only strengthens Trump. 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: It's just deflating that lasts the boys. 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 6: It was former Congressman Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh had his 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 6: head so far up Donald Trump's, but in the twenty 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 6: sixteen election, I was worried he was going to rupture 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 6: something on our future president. He, like a number of folks, 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: glombed on to Trump, I think, with the expectation that 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 6: they would have a position in the administration. This is 67 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: very common. These folks will snuggle up to a candidate 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 6: and promote them in hopes that it will lead to 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 6: their own aggrandizement. When Joe Walsh did not get that, 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 6: he turned on Donald Trump. There's another guy's, silver haired 71 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 6: guy Bill Something, I forget his name. 72 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: He as a. 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 6: Radio program and he was the biggest pro Trump guy 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 6: there was out there. Now, to be clear, I was 75 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 6: not a Trump guy. I was a Ted Cruz guy. 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 6: And for reasons I have explained and will continued to explain, 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 6: I did not believe that Trump would turn out to 78 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 6: be the president that he's turned out to be. 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: I did not believe that. 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 6: I still stand by the decision I made at the time, 81 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 6: based on the review of Trump's body and work prior 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 6: to that point, giving money to Democrats, all sorts of things. 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think he would be the president he's turned 84 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: out to be. 85 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 6: I was wrong. I am glad I was wrong. I 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 6: would much rather that I have been wrong this eight 87 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 6: years later and be able to say the country is 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 6: better for his service. And I worked very hard to 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 6: get him reelected twice. I worked to do that twenty 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 6: and twenty four and I'm proud of that. I'm going 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 6: to admit I was wrong, and I'm never going to 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 6: hide from that. In twenty sixteen, a number of you 93 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: turned against me because you believed that I should support 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 6: your candidate. And I said, we've reached a point in 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 6: the Republic where we can disagree, and I believe ted 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 6: Cruz will be a better president than Donald Trump. It 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 6: turned out I was wrong, turned out a number of 98 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 6: people were right. Now I'm okay saying that, but I 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 6: find to be odd this group of people who were 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 6: the biggest fans of Donald Trump and turned against him. 101 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 6: What did he not do that he promised he would do. 102 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 6: But it's not and never was about the country. It 103 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 6: was always about them. Kelly and Conway was one of 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 6: Ted Cruz's most trusted advisers. She has a very insightful mind, 105 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: brilliant lady, and she was guiding the Cruise campaign when 106 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 6: Cruz stepped out. Donald Trump invited her into his inner 107 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 6: circle and he recognized the talent that is Kelly and 108 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 6: Conway well. 109 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: Her husband a lawyer and a bit of a. 110 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 6: Socialite in the salons of Georgetown, in the DC community. 111 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 6: He came on and he really wanted to be the 112 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 6: Attorney General, and if not the Attorney General, then an 113 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: advisor to the president. And Donald Trump did not value 114 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 6: his advice the way he did Kelly and Conway and 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 6: George Conway was angered by this, and so he joined 116 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 6: up with this group of ousted Republican consultants like Rick Will, 117 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 6: like the pedophile guy, I forget his name, And they 118 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: created the Lincoln Project and they take money from very 119 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 6: wealthy Democrats to constantly criticize Trump and their trolls. Really 120 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 6: they just they just want to They just want to 121 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 6: muck up the engine as much as they can create 122 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 6: a distraction and a lot of people will spend a 123 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 6: lot of time on them. But it is surprising to 124 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 6: me how many of these people that were big Trump 125 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 6: supporters turned against Trump. 126 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Oh, he has a big ego. They tell you Trump's 127 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: had a big. 128 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 6: Ego since he emerged on the scene in the eighties. 129 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 6: What really happened is they thought that they were going 130 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 6: to get prime position, pride of place, right next to 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 6: Donald Trump, and when they didn't, they turned on him. Well, 132 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 6: that tells me you weren't in it for the right reasons. 133 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: Anthony scaramoci all of them, and they sound they're like 134 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 6: a a woman who's been dumped by her man for 135 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: his secretary. 136 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: They're so bitter. And you see there's a lot of 137 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: them out there. 138 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: You see them out there, and boyd they hell had 139 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 6: no fury like an aspiring Trump supporter who's been scorn. 140 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Story Michael Bay Show on Buflump. 141 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: I was notified earlier today in a listener email. Anybody 142 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: can send me an email anywhere in the country, and 143 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 6: I read them all. 144 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: I can't reply to them all, but I do read 145 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: them all. 146 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 6: You can go to Michael Berryshow dot com Michael Berryshow 147 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: dot com and it says, send Michael an email, and 148 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 6: it said that his friend Sam Minikey had died and 149 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 6: he wasn't sure if I knew Sam Minikey or not, 150 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: but that he had passed. 151 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: And he told me what a great guy he had been. 152 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: And I didn't know who Monarchy Mufflers was named after. 153 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: The company ended up being Minuche Car Care Centers. It's 154 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 6: one of those names that growing up in Southeast Texas, 155 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 6: wasn't there a Merlin also? 156 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: Was there Merlin Mufflers. 157 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 6: Don't forget it, But it was a name I didn't 158 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 6: You know a lot of times if you grow up 159 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 6: in an area that has a Dwayne Reid or a 160 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 6: wah Wah, or in Texas at BUCkies, or you know, 161 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 6: New Orleans of Crystal Burger, you don't know that the 162 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: rest of the country doesn't have those, right, especially like 163 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 6: we had Ecker Drugs. Before there was Walgreens and CVS, 164 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: we had Ecker Drugs. It was Eckers was the only 165 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 6: kind of big boy pharmaceutical business that was back in 166 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 6: the old days, when there would be a guy where 167 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 6: in what looks like a Wayabetta behind a count and 168 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 6: you could. 169 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Have a burger and a fountain drink, and you know 170 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: kind they might. 171 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 6: Have a soda jerk there, give you whatever you want, 172 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 6: whatever concoction a phosphate. He had that funny smell that 173 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 6: I loved. And after you went to the doctor, you 174 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 6: went there, maybe get your burger, and you you know, 175 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 6: you at the stand there, and the owner'd be behind 176 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 6: there and his wife be around the corner, and how 177 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 6: you're doing. And when you left, that'd give you a peppermint. 178 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 6: And and that was how we bought our drugs as 179 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 6: a kid, back when we called them drugs, and there 180 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 6: wasn't Ecker drugs. And eventually maybe some people transition to 181 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 6: that and the local shop died off. But it's always 182 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 6: funny when you reach an age, whether you move off 183 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 6: when you go to college or the military, or for 184 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 6: your first job, or maybe you moved because your parents moved, 185 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 6: and you realize that that your little world that you 186 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 6: thought was everybody's world was actually just. 187 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Local to your to your community. 188 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 6: I like that much better than where we've reached today, 189 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: where there's a Starbucks in a Walmart and a Chili's 190 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 6: and really you're just in anywhere everywhere America, and you 191 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 6: lose a lot of the local flavor. We had a 192 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 6: clothing store called Bells, and there were a few around, 193 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 6: but it wasn't national. We had Palais Royal, which was 194 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: based out of Houston, but they had a little location 195 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 6: in Orange. We had some of those little shops. We 196 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 6: had a der Wiener Snitzl. In fact, I remember the 197 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 6: age I was when I discovered I don't remember the age, 198 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 6: but I remember there being a moment where I discovered 199 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: that Dairy Queen was a Minnesota based company. I thought 200 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 6: Dairy Queen was as Texas as Texas could be. 201 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Little did I know? How could I know? 202 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: So? 203 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 6: Anyway, the message was, I don't know if you knew 204 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 6: Sam Minikey. I suspect you did. I didn't, but he 205 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 6: passed away, I guess today, And so I looked up 206 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 6: Minikee and it says Minukee Car Centers. Minikee was found 207 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy one in Houston, Texas by Sam minike 208 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 6: He started the franchise. He started to franchise the name 209 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy two with Harold Needell. In nineteen eighty three, GKN, 210 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 6: a multinational British company, bought out Minukee Discount Mufflers. In 211 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 6: nineteen eighty six, the company headquarters moved to Charlotte, North Carolina. 212 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: In two thousand and three, they changed the name to 213 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 6: Minukee car Care Centers because I guess you wanted to 214 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 6: expand beyond mufflers. Minikee became a privately held company, no 215 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 6: longer publicly traded, and it went through. You know, George 216 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 6: Foreman was their spokesman for a number of years, and 217 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 6: they sponsored and they went around this group. Looks like 218 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 6: it was kind of a roll up. They bought in 219 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 6: the Seattle Tacoma area. They bought Watts Autocare Centers, well, 220 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 6: no Walts Walts Autocare Centers, and I guess they bought 221 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: some other words in their nine hundred and ninety six locations. Wow, 222 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 6: that's a big shop, all right. There's something I wanted 223 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 6: to get to. There's a villa named Mark Andresen. He 224 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 6: was a co founder of Netscape, which in its day 225 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 6: was a really big deal, and he is kind of 226 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 6: the toast of the town in Silicon Valley, although some 227 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 6: people really hate him. He's extraordinarily free thinking and he's 228 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 6: a guy who looks at macro trends on a level 229 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 6: that very few do. Think Elon Musk, He's think Peter Thiel. 230 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 6: These are people who see a lot of devils their 231 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 6: deal flow, as they call it, across their desk. 232 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: Ideas are pitched to them. 233 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 6: Major personalities seek to be in their presence Jeff Beso's 234 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: before that, Steve Jobs, and so they see and hear 235 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 6: things that most people don't. Now, it doesn't mean that 236 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: they're smarter than anyone else. It does mean that they 237 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: have an exposure and if they have an ability to 238 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 6: process sas to analyze and process what's coming through, sometimes 239 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 6: these folks can give you a very good sense of 240 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 6: what's happening in the country from the most influential players. Well, 241 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: he sat down with Joe Rogan, and this is where 242 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 6: Rogan is at his best. It was a long form interview, 243 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 6: and I've been meaning to bring this to you, but 244 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 6: we've had so much breaking news with everything else. Some 245 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 6: of this take it for what it's worth, and I'm 246 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: not saying it's necessarily all true, but some of this 247 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 6: is very important. For instance, he says the social media 248 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 6: policies were a direct assault on free speech. You and 249 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 6: I have experienced this but listen to this. 250 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: There's nothing that happened to Twitter and the Twitter files 251 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: that wasn't happening all the other companies, right, So it's 252 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: a consistent pattern. If you've got the YouTube files, they 253 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: would look exactly the same. And of course we should 254 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: get the YouTube file. Sure, and now we probably will 255 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: now with you know, this new administration is probably going 256 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: to like card all this stuff open. But yeah, I know, 257 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: look it was a pattern. And then look, you know, 258 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: the company's bear a lot of responsibility and the people 259 00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: and let me hold. 260 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 6: Yourress their because we're not going to have a chance 261 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 6: to play the full clip here. Trump is going to 262 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 6: ensure and they're going to be battles and they're going 263 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 6: to fight him like you wouldn't believe. I think there'll 264 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 6: be more attempted assassinations. I think there will be more lawfair. 265 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 6: I think there will be intimidation. 266 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: There are lives. 267 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: That are going to be destroyed and should be over 268 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 6: what YouTube has done, what Twitter did before, elon what 269 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 6: Zuckerberg has done at Facebook. That's why he can't get 270 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 6: in front of Trump fast enough and is begging Trump 271 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 6: to spend more time with him. 272 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: He's already met with him once, the. 273 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 6: FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the National Institute of Health, 274 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 6: the big pharma companies, the congressional records. 275 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: It needs to all be laid open. 276 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 6: There are no more secrets the American people deserve to know, 277 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 6: and if that happens, it's going to be calling for 278 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 6: these people's heads. I truly believe that the worst thing 279 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 6: that ever happened to America was Michael Joe, and the 280 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: best thing that ever happened to slavery was America and 281 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 6: the Republican Party. 282 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: All right, So back to Mark andreson his interview with Joe. 283 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 6: Rogan is being talked about a lot, and should I 284 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 6: would like to amplify the message he shared. He's talking 285 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 6: here about the fact that our government was putting pressure 286 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 6: on social media companies, which is just like the media. 287 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 6: In fact, social media is the media now using threats, 288 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 6: which that's not a power they should have, using funding. 289 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Using behind the scenes influence. 290 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 6: In twenty twenty, what they were doing to Facebook and 291 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 6: Twitter before Elon Musk bought it, they were shutting down 292 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 6: stories that they didn't like. You know, we learned in 293 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 6: school about Pravda, the state organ of the of the 294 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 6: Russian government. The Soviet style censorship, because it's very hard 295 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 6: to dissent in a country when you have no means 296 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 6: by which to spread your message. The founding of America 297 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 6: was occasioned in large part by pamphleteers Thomas Paine and 298 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 6: the like. They would write these pamphlets and spread the word. Hey, folks, 299 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 6: this is what's going on while you're out raising your crops. 300 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 6: We want you to know what's going on. Well, that's 301 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 6: exactly what our government has been silencing. This is as 302 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 6: old as mankind, the idea of censorship, and we can't 303 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 6: just win an. 304 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: Election and move on. 305 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 6: Even though we won the election despite the censorship, and 306 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 6: no mistake Elon Musk buying. Twitter created the largest outlet 307 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 6: for user generated content to expose what was going on 308 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 6: in the country, and it made. 309 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: A world of difference. 310 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 6: This censorship of big technology by our government cannot simply 311 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 6: be forgotten. The people involved have to be held accountable. 312 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 6: Here's the first part. You heard the first few seconds, 313 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 6: but here's the full clip. It's ninety seconds. There's nothing 314 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 6: that happened to Twitter and the Twitter files. It wasn't 315 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 6: happening all the other companies, right, So it's a consistent pattern. 316 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 6: If you've got the YouTube files, they would look exactly 317 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 6: the same. And of course we should get the YouTube file. 318 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: Sure, and now we probably will now with you know, 319 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: this new administration is probably going to see that carve 320 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: all this stuff open. But yeah, no, look it was 321 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: a pattern. And then look, you know, the company's barre 322 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: a lot of responsibility, and the people in the companies, 323 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: you know, made a lot of I think bad judgment calls. 324 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: But the government, like the Biden White House, was directly 325 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: exerting censorship pressure on American companies to censor American citizens, 326 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: which which I think, by the way, is just flatly illegal, 327 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: like I think is actually subject to criminal charges, Like 328 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: I think there are people with criminal liability who were 329 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: involved in this. So there was that there were also 330 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: members of Congress doing the same thing, which is also illegal. 331 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: And then there was a lot of funding of outside 332 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: third party groups that were that were bringing a lot 333 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: of pressure down on censorship. 334 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 335 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: And just an example that is there's a unit at Stanford, 336 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, right next door you know to us that 337 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: you know, because it was the Internet Censorship Unit that 338 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: was funded by the US government and exerted tremendous pressure 339 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: on the company's to censor, and it was and it 340 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: was very effective at doing so. 341 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Does it smell like soul? 342 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: For when you walk those halls, it is very dark 343 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: and grim. This whole thing is very bad. And so Stanford, Yeah, Stanford, Stanford. 344 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: By the way, another unit like that at Harvard. You know, 345 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of universities got pulled into this, a lot 346 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: of NGOs and nonprofits got pulled into this. And so 347 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: the Twitter files showed us kind of the basic roadmap. 348 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: And then there's this thing called the Weaponization Committee that 349 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: Congressman Jordan is running that has also revealed a lot 350 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: of this. But I would imagine the new Trump administration 351 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: is going to commit and carvel that wide open. And 352 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: I know that there are people in being applented to 353 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: senior positions who are very determined to do that. 354 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 6: Mark Andries and then explained how the government used in 355 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 6: goos as intermediaries to bypass First Amendment restrictions and really 356 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: enforce censorship. 357 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: This is state run media. This is scary stuff. 358 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 6: He labeled it outsourced oppression, a clever yet troubling legal 359 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 6: loophole that is designed to stifle free speech. This is 360 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 6: really no different than the government, going to the schools 361 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 6: and standing in the classroom and telling the teachers, this 362 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 6: is what you will teach. You will not teach freedom 363 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 6: and democracy and the free republic. You will teach that 364 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 6: big pharma is good. You will teach big tech is good. 365 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 6: You will teach that a wide open border is good. 366 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 6: Even as we the people are watching as the hell 367 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: descends upon this. 368 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: Here's what you had to Saygo is one of those 369 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: great terms like non governmental organization, All right, like what what? 370 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: What the hell is that? 371 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: Right? What is that? 372 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: Tell me? I don't know, Well, it's it's sort of 373 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: a charity, and but what it really does it's sort 374 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: of but most of the time that it's a it's 375 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: a political entity. It's an entity with the political agenda. 376 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: But then it's funded by the government in a very 377 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: large percentage of cases, including the NGOs and the censorship complex, 378 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: like the government grants National Science Foundation grants like direct 379 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: to the State Department grants, right, direct money. And then okay, 380 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: now you've got an NGO funded by the government. Well 381 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: that's not an NGO, like right, that's a GEO, right right, 382 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: And then you've got a conspiracy you know, like in saysorship. 383 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: Then you have a conspiracy because you've got government officials 384 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: using government money to fund are what look like private 385 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: organizations that aren't. And then what happens is the government 386 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: outsources to these NGOs the things that it's not legally 387 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: allowed to do, like what like censorship? Oh okay, like 388 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: violation of First Amendment, right right, right? The government. So 389 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: the first So what they always say, it's the First 390 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: Amendment only applies to the government. The First Amendment says 391 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: the government cannot cannot sense your American citizens. And so 392 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: what they do is, if you want to censor American citizens, 393 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: you're in the government. If you're smart, you don't do that. 394 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: What you do is you fund an outside organization and 395 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: then you have them do it. It's a smart man 396 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: telling you exactly what's going on. But the censorship in 397 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: the control extends far beyond social media. Mark Andreason issued 398 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: a chilling warning. Unlike China's overt systems, these American mechanisms 399 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: are concealed within what look like private industries banking, insurance, 400 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: Want to purchase a home, want to travel on a vacation, 401 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: want to access your bank. The message is very clear, 402 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: comply with our social mandates or face the consequences. 403 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 6: Ah man, I'm sorry, Ramona, I wasn't watching the clock. 404 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 6: We'll play that clip coming up. Stay tuned. I didn't 405 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 6: you know what, I didn't even see that. I didn't 406 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 6: even see Uh. 407 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: This stuff is so. 408 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 6: Good because he's putting it all together in one place. 409 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: He's not a real dynamic speaker, so you have to 410 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: understand that. But but this guy brings a perspective because 411 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 6: of what he does and who he knows. 412 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: I'll play that clip coming up. That's dog, Sorry about 413 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: that rolling around. 414 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: It. 415 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: All right. 416 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: This is Mark Chestnut and jow Bizaar of talk radio. 417 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: Mans line gives me every time. 418 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 6: All right, let's get to Mark Andrews and these social 419 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 6: credit systems which use private companies to enforce the social 420 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: mandates of the left of socialism. So you don't think 421 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 6: of it as the government, but it's directed by the government. 422 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: It's toward a government end and they use your bank, 423 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: your insurance company, all of them to control you. 424 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: Zero new banks, yeah, zero. Literally, it was like cardiac arrest. 425 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: It was like that's it for new bank charters. And 426 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: we've had companies that have tried to start new banks 427 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: and it's essentially impossible because you have to comply with 428 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: the wall of regulation. You need to go hire your 429 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: ten thousand compliance people and your lawyers. But you can't 430 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 2: afford to do that because you're not big enough yet. See, 431 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: you can't function like you can't exist. 432 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: Wow. 433 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: Like it's not always ruled it's my definition is ruled out. 434 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: You can't do it. It's not financially viable. 435 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 7: Wow. 436 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: So so that happened in banking. That's what they've been 437 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: doing in social media. It has been the same, it's 438 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: been and by the way, this has happened in many 439 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: other industries. By the way this happen this is this 440 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: happened in the food and the food industry is greatly consolidated. 441 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: That that's a lot of what's happened in that industry 442 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: as well. And it's it's the I think what it's 443 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: the intertwining of government and the company, right because because 444 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: at that point it's like, okay, is this a private company? Yes, 445 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: Like it's still a private company. It has a stock 446 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: price it as a CEO. Does the CEO have to 447 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: do everything that the relevant cabinet secretary tells him to do? Yes, 448 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: he does. Why does he have to do that because 449 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: if not, it's going to be investigations and subpoenas and 450 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: prosecutions and protological examinations for the rest of his life. 451 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 452 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: Everything. 453 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: That's essentially what we accuse the CCP of doing in China. 454 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: It's the so it's so so if you combine banking 455 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: and social media and and now AI, you have basically 456 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: privatized social credit. Core right is where you end up 457 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: with this right. And this goes back to the Trucker 458 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: Struke thing. You don't have to threaten to take away 459 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: somebody's kids. You just like you threat to take away 460 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: their insurance. You don't threaten to take away their insurance. 461 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: It's not government insurance. It's being taken away. The same 462 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: thing has happened in the insurance industry. It's consolidated down 463 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: to a small handful of companies. They're superregulated. If the 464 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: government doesn't want you to have insurance, you're not going 465 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: to have insurance. And there's no constitutional right to insurance. 466 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: So there's so there's there's no appeal press. We're back 467 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: to the de banking thing, and so that happened in banking, 468 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: that's been happening in internet and tech social media generally, 469 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: it's been happening in many other sectors, and then it's 470 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: happening specifically in AI. And what you have an AI 471 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: is you have a set of CEOs of some of 472 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: the big AA companies that want this to happen because again, 473 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: their big threat is that we're going to fund a 474 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: startup that's going to eat their lunch, right, it's going 475 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: to really screw them up. So they're like, look, if 476 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: we could just take the position we have and lock 477 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: it in with government protection, the trade is will do 478 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: whatever the government wants. And if you assume the government 479 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: is controlled by, you know, people who want you censor 480 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: and punish and cancel their political opponents, that's going to 481 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: come right along with it. 482 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: You don't have to agree with all of it. 483 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 6: Just think I've said for almost twenty years on this show, 484 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 6: I'm not here to tell you how to think. I'm 485 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 6: here to tell you to think, to question, to not 486 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 6: be the naive neighbor, to understand that there are people 487 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: with evil intents, but they don't. They don't tell you 488 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 6: of their intent as if it's evil. They tell you 489 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: they're out to protect you from other people who are evil. 490 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: But what they want. What they want. 491 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 6: Is control through regulation. And this gets back to what 492 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 6: we talked about earlier in the show. Today this is 493 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 6: Mark Andrews and on Joe Rogan's show. And so there's 494 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 6: a couple steps. 495 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: So one is you just want a small number of 496 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: companies that do AI because you want to be able 497 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: to put them in headlock and control them. So you 498 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: basically want to give you basically want to have a government. 499 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: You want to bless a small set of large companies 500 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: with a cartel instead of a regulatory structure where those 501 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: companies are intertwined with the government. And then you want 502 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: to prevent startups from being able to enter that cartel. 503 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: How would they do that? 504 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: That's the threat to the control. So it's it's concept 505 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: called regulatory capture. And so the way when this is 506 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: this has happened many times for you know, hundreds of years. 507 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: This is like a very well established kind of thing 508 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: in economics and politics. So I suppose you're a big 509 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: Suppose you're a big bank, Suppose you're Jamie Diamond, you 510 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: run JP Morgan Chase, Like, what's like the biggest possible 511 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: threat of what you could possibly face. It's that there's 512 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: some disruptive change that comes along that up ends your 513 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: entire business. You know your Kodak, you know your CODEAC. 514 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: You're making a ton of money on an analog film, 515 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: and the digital cameras come along and you get destroyed, 516 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: and for in your obituary it's like you're the idiot 517 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: you know who Blockbuster video, Blockbuster video, Like, that's the 518 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: cautionary tail that those are the ghost stories that those 519 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: guys tell around a campfire at night. They're just absolutely terrifying, 520 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: and like business schools like, that's the one thing you 521 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: do not want to do. And so there's two ways 522 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: to try to deal with that. One is you could 523 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: try to invent the future before it happens to you. 524 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: But that's hard because you're running a big company and 525 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: you know these startups are out there doing all these 526 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: crazy things, and can you really do that? And it's 527 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: hard and frisky and dangerous. The other thing you can 528 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: do is you can go to the government. You can 529 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: basically say, okay, we're going to we would like to 530 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: propose basically a trade, which is we would like the 531 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: government to put up a wall of regulation, right, we 532 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: would like the government to put in place rules right 533 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: that are potentially thousands of pages long. Right, and in fact, 534 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: the more the better. Right. We want a very very 535 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: very high bar for regulation for what's required to be 536 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: in this business. Because I'm a big company, I can 537 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: afford ten thousand lawyers and compliance people. 538 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 5: Right. 539 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: I voluntarily put myself under basically the government comb But 540 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: in return, the government has erected this wall of regulation 541 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: such that the next startup comes along and just literally 542 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: the next company comes along and just literally can't function. 543 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: There are we? 544 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 6: We all on the show, listen to the entirety of 545 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 6: the interview, and obviously our format is not set up. 546 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 6: Rogan's is a long form conversation and we are more 547 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 6: of a news magazine style format. I know talk shows 548 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 6: don't normally say that, but that's how I look at 549 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 6: our clock. I encourage you to go. I know that 550 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 6: a lot of people are put off by the length 551 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 6: of Rogan's podcast. I've been told that, but I'm going 552 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 6: to tell you, if you're going to devote some time 553 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 6: to something, this would be a good one. We've tried 554 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 6: to bring you the highlights, and in fact, during this 555 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 6: hour of tomorrow's show, will bring you a couple of 556 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 6: more clips of that, as well as Tucker Carlson in 557 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: Moscow interviewing Russia's foreign minister even though the United States 558 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 6: government wouldn't let him do that told him were and 559 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson showing, look, we're in a hot war with 560 00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 6: Russia right now, a hot ar meaning live rounds our 561 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 6: men their men. If that's happening, why is it not 562 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: being reported? I don't think Tucker Carlson has a tendency 563 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 6: over his career to simply make things up. Why would 564 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 6: the Russian foreign minister say that's happening. 565 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: If it's not. And let me ask, here's a sad 566 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: state of affairs. 567 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 6: Do you trust the Russian Foreign minister when he says 568 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 6: they're firing on us and we're firing on them. Or 569 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 6: do you trust the United States government who says no, no, no, 570 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 6: Ukraine wouldn't do. 571 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: That, that would never happen. Do you trust Joe Biden? 572 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 6: Do you trust the crowd of people around him who 573 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 6: pardoned under Biden after swearing they wouldn't. The sad reality is, 574 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 6: if I were to ask you, who's more trustworthy, Let's 575 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 6: leave Tucker Carlson out of it. 576 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Russia's foreign minister are the United States government. Well, that's 577 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: a horrible state of affairs we've reached. Isn't it process 578 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: that for a moment