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Speaker 1: Oh, using will be well for it's time to be.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get fired up. It's Friday, you're unemployed, you

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Speaker 3: It's Friday, April fourth, twenty twenty five, and you've stumbled

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Speaker 3: ever put together. It won't die. It's amazing. I love

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Speaker 3: being employed. Hey, it's Brian Campbell. To be with that BD.

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Speaker 3: The suburbs of Connecticut is where I call home and

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Speaker 3: fresh off the set of CNN, it's your favorite DC resident.

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Speaker 3: Shout him out. It's Luke Thomas and Luke. We got

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Speaker 3: a great show today. I'm happy to see how you're

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Speaker 2: Good good. By the way, I was only on set

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Speaker 2: for four minutes and fifty seconds, I mean, the shortest

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Speaker 2: I will say, you know how this is when you

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Speaker 2: let's put it that way, television studio. They got nice

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Speaker 2: I feel I got I slipped to the alarm BC.

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Speaker 2: How about that slip to the freaking alarm? So I

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Speaker 3: Like what they turned on in recapping PFL one as

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Speaker 3: they kick off their tournament sison, Uh not bad. We're

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Speaker 3: We do have a third member of our team who

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Speaker 3: it's the son of an Australian ballbag man card minutes. Luke, No, Sita, Luke.

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Speaker 3: You are live and direct from all the smoke studios

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Speaker 4: I am, guys, beautiful, all the smoke set right behind me.

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Speaker 3: But it's all right, you know, yeah, stretch around a

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Speaker 3: I knew I need more, I need better material. Don't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere, Nosita lt. I woke up at at at

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Speaker 3: that was a video of Luke, Nosita Gaffney, Jim Pierre

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Speaker 3: and the artist formerly noticed Manich singing, singing.

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Speaker 2: There was karaoke going on, Creed was playing and.

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Speaker 3: That's all, Wow, this young fellow Nosita still can get

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Speaker 3: great show for you today, Luke, anything else you want

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Speaker 3: three to fourteen pregame preview. Get some Quervo in your shots.

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Speaker 5: bs no, But it is UFC three sixteen June seventh,

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Speaker 5: In the main event, Morov Devolishvili will make the sameecond

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Speaker 2: Can't wait, can't wait. Sean O'Malley is number one. Piodrian

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Speaker 6: I also haven't ye huge once this year jade the pen.

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Speaker 3: So Luke, I'm gonna see you up in a second.

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Speaker 3: He would go on in that interview on podcasts to say,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the pressure of just that that his

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Speaker 2: For your prostate to not ejaculate guys.

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Speaker 2: I would say this again, not not busting a nut

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Speaker 3: In general, I do there would be no excuses left.

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Speaker 3: So I want to see him. Well, so, did you

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Speaker 2: Leak luke or is rech loud ass noise on my roof?

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Speaker 3: immediate rematch, even though he had four title defenses. Fans

430
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: even tweeted at Al Joe. But here's Sterling's response, and

431
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Speaker 3: I want to get your take on it. He says, look,

432
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: honest answer, the UFC is going to do what's best

433
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 3: for the business and for the brand. What I've liked

434
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Speaker 3: in an immediate rematch due to the circumstances going into

435
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: the first fight, absolutely, but I understand the business model

436
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: better than most. And O'Malley he is a really exciting

437
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: guy that has beaten many top five contenders, so I

438
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: think he rightfully deserves it after all the rank names

439
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: he has beaten. And look, if you remember Sterling was

440
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: rushed by the promotion to take that defense against O'Malley.

441
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Speaker 3: What do you make of his reaction?

442
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 2: I don't agree that it's put the quote up one

443
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Speaker 2: more time if you can where he says, omle, he's

444
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: a really exciting guy. That has beaten many top five contenders,

445
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: so I think he rightfully deserves it after all the

446
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 2: ranked names he has beaten. See I disagree with that part.

447
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: I think that it's understandable that he got it given

448
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: what the promoter is valuing, which is, to an extent

449
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: your resume, but to an extent your sellibility. Also understand

450
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: something right, they're negotiating a new television rights deal, Like

451
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Speaker 2: what prominent American fighters you can have for an American

452
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 2: broadcaster is probably pretty important, you know what I mean?

453
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Speaker 2: So getting them out of there, out there in front

454
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Speaker 2: of the public and active and potentially even winning, this

455
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: is something that's quite imtant. But what I would say

456
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Speaker 2: is I don't actually think he deserves it in the

457
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Speaker 2: traditional sense. I actually don't think that's the argument at all.

458
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Speaker 2: My argument is like, oh, this is unfair. This is

459
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: you know, they're playing favorites. Yeah, yeah, that's the matchmaker model.

460
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: The alternative everybody is you can do the tournament model

461
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: where you win and you advance, but we have seen

462
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: how that works and that's even worse. So the matchmaker

463
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: model absolutely, by definition, BC plays favorites. They get to

464
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: pick and choose, but as flawed as this system might be.

465
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Speaker 2: I'd rather have that than you know, the tournament one

466
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Speaker 2: where you just get locked into this shit all the

467
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Speaker 2: time and then you know, things go haywire way too often.

468
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Speaker 3: It's spoiler alert. And I didn't think I'd come in

469
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: here and defend the UFC consistently after ripping them for

470
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Speaker 3: two years. But I mean, I've been at many jobs

471
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: where certain skills give you privileges. You know, in fighting,

472
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: when you sell, that'll give you a privilege. Look, I

473
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: once got fired out a factory for doing a no call,

474
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: no show one time when there were guys there that

475
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: would like not show up for weeks, but they had

476
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: more talent, so they kept that job. You know what

477
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying, damn that factory life. Final point on O'Malley

478
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: is maybe because it's a time when he's down, meaning

479
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: he just lost the title and people he didn't take

480
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 3: a follow up fight, and people don't seem to want

481
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: him in this People are now revisiting just the opposite

482
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Speaker 3: of what al Jo said. Does he actually have an

483
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: impressive resume? They're saying, you know, outside of the knockout

484
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: of Thomas Almeida when he was on that rise since then,

485
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, he beat that Mutino guy, he beat Paeva,

486
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: he was losing to Munio's when the ipoke made it

487
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: the no conto contest. People think he got a gift

488
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 3: against Yon, then he fought al Jo, who wasn't one

489
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Speaker 3: hundred percent. Then he got a title defense against Cheeto

490
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Speaker 3: because of their history, even though Cheeto wasn't on that level.

491
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Speaker 3: Would you agree that it is fair to critique O'Malley's

492
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: ride up to this point and actually question whether he

493
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Speaker 3: ever really was a true pound for pound great.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure. He has clearly been the beneficiary of

495
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: matchmakers in a company that wanted to promote him in

496
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: ways that means giving him opportunities that his peers simply

497
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: didn't get. It's not very complicated. That's one billion percent true.

498
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: It's not up for argument. That is exactly what happened.

499
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: What's interesting to me, BC is I can understand this

500
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Speaker 2: call as we've as we've indicated here where you know

501
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: what they have to keep this title in rotation. You

502
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: got to figure this out. Given the circumstances, we understand

503
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: why they picked Sean even if we wouldn't have mined

504
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: at all, if they picked yond but I will say

505
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: this the point you raise and all those different items

506
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: in the journey. If Sean goes out here and let's say,

507
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: because here's something we didn't talk about. What if he

508
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: goes out there and loses even worse the second time, Dude,

509
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, the backlash against him is

510
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: going to be I'm not going to say biblical. It's

511
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: not going to be the same as you know, the

512
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: Tuporia backlash after changing his nickname. If you that that

513
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: would be worse, it would it would, It would be worse. However, However,

514
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: there is a little bit of underlying, kind of seething

515
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: resentment about O'Malley getting pushed to the front of the line.

516
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Speaker 2: And I think they'll let it go if he wins,

517
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: because you can go there. You can be anybody who

518
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: can beat Morob is legit, right. I think people understand that.

519
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: But if Morob goes in there and just roughs him

520
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: up worse than the first time, I feel like there's

521
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: gonna be a massive backlash against him, and so yet

522
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: another risk that they're running here in this fight.

523
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Speaker 3: I feel bad for Sandagan because if he had been

524
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: coming off a win, this would have been the perfect

525
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: time for him to get that title shot, but he's

526
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: gonna have to continue to grind.

527
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Speaker 4: Uh.

528
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Speaker 2: Can I add one little detail here? I would love

529
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Speaker 2: it so people pitch this one to me and I'm okay,

530
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: let me just see what you think. Let me see

531
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Speaker 2: what you think. And I would love to see what

532
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: Nocita thinks as well. Namely, okay, you can't give it

533
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Speaker 2: to you on we don't want to see O'Malley, why

534
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Speaker 2: couldn't you do Pantojia versus Morob to which you would say.

535
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Speaker 3: I would say that there's all already a bottleneck atop

536
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: that flyweight division. I know my argument can be countered

537
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Speaker 3: by the idea that Pantosia has except for even fall cop,

538
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: he's fought everybody that's in the title picture. I mean,

539
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: I guess outside of KKF. That's why they're probably going

540
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: to do that next. But I would I would say,

541
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Speaker 3: because there's a bottleneck upon a top there, and because

542
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 3: Pantosa is on an arc of actually creating a meaningfull run,

543
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: that you can make the argument that he's the second

544
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: greatest flyweight of all time. I don't know if you

545
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: would want to hurt that division. I mean, you wouldn't

546
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: necessarily need to strip him. You could give him the

547
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: opportunity to become a two division champion. But I don't know, Luke,

548
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: I'm actually happy they didn't in this case.

549
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Speaker 2: I would love to see that fight. To be perfectly

550
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Speaker 2: honest with you, I would love to see that fight,

551
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Speaker 2: but I think the only way you can do that

552
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: is if you introduce an interim title at flyweight, because

553
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming obviously Pantoja is going up right, so it's

554
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: going to be a ban someweight fight. You could only

555
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Speaker 2: do that if you introduce an interim title, which is

556
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Speaker 2: not fair because Pantoja has been as active as possible.

557
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Speaker 2: But like to the point you raise, dude, there's a

558
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: bottle already, and you know, bantamweight there is a little

559
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: bit of playing repeat, but there's still a bunch of

560
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: other viable contenders that we still haven't had a chance

561
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: to for Rob to beat yet. Your Sam Haagen's, your

562
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: Figuredo's that kind of a thing. So to me, it's like,

563
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 2: I think that fight would actually be the best of

564
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: all the choices that I've heard as on pure fight terms.

565
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: But you also have to manage divisions, and this is

566
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: why some of these fights. Islam to BBC is the

567
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: is the exception that proves the rule because he's the

568
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: number one pound for pound fighter in the sport and

569
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: just doesn't have a whole lot of time left. I

570
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: think you just create some bottlenecks in his particular case

571
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: if you had to.

572
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Speaker 3: You know, I just hope the UFC doesn't close this

573
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: calendar year without giving us both Jones aspinall and Islam

574
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Speaker 3: versus La Leendo Luke.

575
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Speaker 2: Okay, like, imagine you get imagine you get neither of

576
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: them this year. Imagine that they're.

577
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Speaker 3: Gonna have a lot of splain in to doing like

578
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: they care, like they care, they'll get another government contract.

579
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Speaker 3: All right, Let's talk quickly about this co main event.

580
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Speaker 3: Kayla Harrison, as we and now, according to DraftKings, is

581
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Speaker 3: more or nearly sorry just shy of a six to

582
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Speaker 3: one favorite against two time champion Juliana Painna, who I've

583
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: said a lot of bad things about her and her resume,

584
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: but she did win the title second time. She did

585
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: outlast Rocky Pennington in a horrific title fight. Is the

586
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: bigger battle for Kayla making the weight and being able

587
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: to go five rounds than actually defeating paina.

588
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: Here, wait say that again.

589
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Is Kayla's challenge bigger to make one thirty five and

590
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: have the stamina for far start and actually winning against

591
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Speaker 3: this opponent?

592
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 7: Um?

593
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: Probably, probably. It should be noted that I think Harrison

594
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: has not necessarily taken to the striking all that well.

595
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Obviously she's cleaned up a lot, but it's not on

596
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: the feet a potent part of her game. You know,

597
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty fair, and there are some real

598
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: defense of liabilities, and somebody like Panya just takes risks.

599
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: You know, she'll come forward doing this number, you know

600
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: what I mean, and so like, you know.

601
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: It's like rids me, like Ronda Rousey highlight.

602
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, here's the thing, do you we

603
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: sleep on Pina. But it's like, okay, it wasn't the

604
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: very best Amanda Nunez I've ever seen, but she did

605
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: beat Amanda Nunz, Like dude.

606
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: In hindsight, though, that was an injured, under trained Nunaz

607
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: who had pressure on her to keep.

608
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. But Kayla's going to be drained, Like

609
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: to your point, She's gonna be drained like a motherfucker

610
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: at one thirty five. Well, I think That's.

611
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: Where Penya's strengths are. She can go five hard rounds,

612
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: she could take a beating. She's willing to brawl. I'll

613
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: give her that credit. I just don't even think she

614
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: beat Rocky in a horrible fight.

615
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I don't think she did either. And

616
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: so again it's not like who's more skilled, I mean,

617
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: what the fuck are we talking about. We know who's

618
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: more skilled, like obviously the two time gold medal winning Olympian.

619
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Speaker 2: For fuck's sake, That's not really the question. The question

620
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: is is she so drained versus a risk taker? To

621
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: your point, you raise got good cardio and just throws

622
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: caution to the wind. Is that a combustible mix? It

623
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: certainly can be. I just feel like, you know, in

624
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: all likelihood, this is Harrison's fight to lose. But she

625
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: has struggled a little bit with some of the takedowns

626
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: and then a little bit obviously on the feet as well.

627
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: Once it gets to the mat, it's it's a done deal,

628
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: I feel like. But it's getting there as proved a

629
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: little tougher than I think some of us might have imagined.

630
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Speaker 3: If Kayla wins, I know I'm projecting much forward, but

631
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. The odds are nearly six to one here.

632
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: People aren't expecting this to be a classic. It could

633
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: be dramatic. We'll find out. But if Kayla Wins is

634
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: getting Amanda Newness out of retirement, the only thing that

635
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: can save this division and maybe by proxy, the current

636
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: state of Women's MMA.

637
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes, I'm not

638
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: even gonna bullshit at all. Another great thing would be

639
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: if Dakota Ditchivill went to UFC. I don't know if

640
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: that would save it Win's MMA, but that would be

641
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: awesome and exciting. And hey, we can't wait for any

642
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Speaker 2: of those matchups, but certainly as it pertains to Women's

643
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Speaker 2: thirty five, and more importantly to the question you raise,

644
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: which is just putting Women's MMA in a very important

645
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: spotlighting role. And I don't mean like, oh, they're going

646
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: to headline this card or comin event this card. I

647
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: mean capturing the imagination of the fan base, getting the

648
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: fan base riled up in a good way about an

649
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: important women's fight. When was the last time that happened?

650
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: I guess the rubber match between Schivchenko and Grosso on

651
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: the Sphere card and before that I'm not really sure

652
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: and even that is somewhat debatable. And also that fight,

653
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: as I fight shit the bed, it was, you know,

654
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: just takedowns and top control wasn't very good. Like, there

655
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: is a gigantic, yawning gap that has emerged in terms of,

656
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, what the game used to be and what

657
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: it is now. So on the women's side, so getting

658
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: a big name out of retirement, which carries its own

659
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: kind of storyline former teammates as we all know for

660
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: again Kayla Harrison, the best American judoka ever against this

661
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: best female fighter essentially or certainly the best women's UFC

662
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: fighter ever. That is, you can sell the shit out

663
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: of that if you play that right. I think the

664
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: game needs it. This division certainly needs it. And here's

665
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: my question back we see, which is if not this one,

666
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 2: what is even the biggest fight you could make, if

667
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: Amanda Nunez is not in play? The answer is nothing

668
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: even remotely as interesting, nothing even on that thing. You're right, like,

669
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: you have to make this fight.

670
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Speaker 3: So the problem we've been talking about women's MME of

671
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: late usually surrounds the lack of depth in all divisions,

672
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Speaker 3: maybe except for the top end of one, twenty five

673
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Speaker 3: and obviously one fifteen one. I'm sorry, woll one fifteen

674
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: is glaringly narrow, you know, shallow at this moment, which

675
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: is we're not used to that in the history of that,

676
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: and also the lack of quality evolution. It feels like

677
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: it's going backwards in terms of skill. But you bring

678
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: up a great point, like there was a couple of

679
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: years stretch where we had big women's fights that people

680
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: care about. Let me remind people, Nunas versus Cyborg Nunas,

681
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Chefchenko two, Rose Yoana one and two, and to maybe

682
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: a smaller degree than Rose Wayley one and two, there

683
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: were matchups where you're like, Okay, these are two of

684
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: the greatest in the history facing off and they're having

685
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: a form of a rivalry. I mean, maybe has it

686
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Has it not been the same since Rose shit the

687
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: bed against Carla in that rematch? Do we blame Rose

688
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: for that? Luke? I don't know, but it's uh.

689
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Speaker 2: No, I don't know if that's the line, but it

690
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: definitely feels like it's been a while since we had

691
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Speaker 2: like a really awesome, hotly anticipated women's fight.

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Speaker 3: Hotly yes, let's go, I think.

693
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Speaker 2: Pants, pants, pants, around my ankles. Ankles, ankles.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's transition to topic number two. It's also some UFC

695
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: matchmaking and this one has me excited. In fact, color

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Speaker 3: me bad with two d's because I want to sex

697
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Speaker 3: you up. TikTok, you don't stop. Hey, here's the deal.

698
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: April twenty sixth at the t Mobile Center in Kansas City,

699
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Speaker 3: Missouri is a UFC fight night Carter. Remember it's part

700
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: of that TKO takeover weekend where they're sending tickets or

701
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: they're selling ticket bundles with WWE and Professional bull Riding.

702
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: We were supposed to have a banger of a light

703
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: heavyweight main event with Jamal Hill and Tree. Jamal Hill

704
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: is injured and that matchup is rumored to get rescheduled.

705
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: That UFC azer Baijan Wow Wow. But what we do

706
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: have as a replacement in just twenty two days is

707
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: they must see welterweight till as Ian Machado. Gary once

708
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: again will take a big fight on short notice when

709
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Speaker 3: he welcomes the red hot knockout machine from the Fighting

710
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Speaker 3: Nerds and the cigarette smoke in love in car lots

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Speaker 3: pratesh And now, given the recent comments by Gary, would

712
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: be a good time to reintroduce Shots Fired, brought to

713
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Speaker 3: you by Quervo. To quote che Chin Chong, what balls

714
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: Ian Gary has? And here is Ian Gary taking to

715
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 3: social media to react to why he took this fight

716
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Speaker 3: on short notice.

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Speaker 8: Right, it's official, You've got a new main event. Kansas City, Missouri,

718
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 8: me versus Carlos Pratchez April twenty. I'm excited.

719
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Speaker 3: Why do you see the ah?

720
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Speaker 2: We need someone? Who do we need? Who do we call? You?

721
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: Call me?

722
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: Why?

723
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 8: Because I'm a real fighter who wants to fight the

724
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 8: best in the world. I'm gonna show everybody how good

725
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 8: I am. Carlos Prachie is awesome. But this is my world.

726
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 8: I love to fight. There's nothing more I love in

727
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 8: this world than fine Missouri, Kansas City. Let's go Ireland.

728
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Speaker 8: Gadget tickets, Gadget flights Brazil, Gadget tickets, Gadget flights on Brazil.

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Speaker 1: Just school.

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Speaker 8: But his name deus brasi vamla practice vivs Venji, says Luke.

731
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Speaker 3: The key quote there was this is my world. What

732
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Speaker 3: is this decision making by Gary do, in your opinion

733
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: to change the way we look at and talk about him?

734
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I said this to you over text BC,

735
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: and I'm happy to say here there's a lot of

736
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: things you can say about Ian Gary, good, bad, and

737
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: in between. But whatever else you say about him, you

738
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: better make sure that you add at the end of

739
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: it that that dude ducks zero smoke. None doesn't happen

740
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: not in his DNA took on Shavkat Rockmanov and gave

741
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: him all he could handle on short notice. And here

742
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: he is again taking on a guy who not undefeated

743
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: but certainly has had an amazing run with four and

744
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: oh last year did unbelievable out of this undefeated team

745
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: in the UFC, that is in fighting nerds taking him

746
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: on short notice, that dude, speaking of our parent company

747
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: here wants all the freaking smoke, and you just have

748
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: to have a lot of respect for it. But I'm

749
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: of two different minds about it. I want to say

750
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: largely that I absolutely fucking love this fight. I love

751
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: this fight so much. I was actually pretty interested in

752
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: the Jamal Hill Khalil Roundtree fight. I still hope that

753
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: they I think their plan is to make it a

754
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: little bit later in the year. I was excited about

755
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: that main event. But if excuse me, if I could

756
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: just be honest, B see, I like this fight much more. Now,

757
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: now let me say a couple things that do you

758
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: give me some pause? Okay, First, it's short notice, not

759
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: so much for Projess, who was expecting an opponent and

760
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: he just has to extend it by but a couple

761
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: of weeks or whatever, So that's no big deal for him,

762
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: just has to kind of monitor his weight. But for

763
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: Ian Gary, I don't know how well he's been preparing

764
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: or training or how ready he's going to be. And

765
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: so you're not getting these guys with like, you know,

766
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: ten weeks for each other where you really can get

767
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: a sense of things. There's just a lot of questions

768
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: about what kind of Ian Gary or you know, exactly

769
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: how ready Projess will be. It is a five round

770
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: main event as I understand it, though, so some interesting

771
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: questions for his cardio as the cigarette smoker that I

772
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: think we're going to get some answers to. The Other

773
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: thing that kind of is interesting as we see is like, okay,

774
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there's simply no questioning Ian Gary does not

775
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: duck smoke at all. What I wonder is is he

776
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: ducking no smoke a little too much? Right? So he

777
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: took on Rockmannov and he gave him all he could handle,

778
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: but he didn't lose. I'm sorry he didn't like lose badly.

779
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: He did lose, but it was you know, it was

780
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: an eye opening performance. I think you can say that.

781
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: But here he has taken on protests again on short notice,

782
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: and it's like, does this guy have this trigger where

783
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: he's willing to take risks in terms of matchmaking that

784
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: we enjoy as fans, because here he comes to rescue

785
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: us and again in like totally unenviable circumstances. Is that

786
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: something that if he keeps doing, if he keeps that

787
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: instinct up, it will actually end up hurting his development

788
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: because he's still just twenty seven years of age. I

789
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: do have some concerns about that, but I just want

790
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: to say fight to fight this or fighter at a fighter.

791
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: I should say, excuse me, I fucking love this fight

792
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: and I cannot wait for this main event.

793
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Speaker 3: And that of course with shots Fire brought to you

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Speaker 3: by Quervo, Don't forget. Next Wednesday, April ninth, Quervo UFC

795
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Speaker 3: three to fourteen pregame preview Luke me Jed Mischue check

796
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Speaker 3: it out, Luke I want to kind of counter the

797
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Speaker 3: concerns that you had, which are certainly fair. First, Long Island, Luke,

798
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: can we throw up the graphic showing the time off

799
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: in between in terms of the short notice takes here

800
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: from fighters only, it was a twenty one day turnaround

801
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: for Gary for Shavcot Rockmanoff and he twenty five day.

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00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: And if it's under the for protest, and if it's

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Speaker 3: under the working idea that Gary stays ready so he

804
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: doesn't have to get ready, then I'm not that concerned

805
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: about it. I know twenty five days is not a

806
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: full camp, but it's you know, it's not six days.

807
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: And also the idea about chasing smoke. Look, he's the

808
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: number seven ranked welterweight right now, but I think that

809
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: performance against Shafcott, which we obviously was a clear loss,

810
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: but was also a huge moral victory and obviously arguably

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00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: the biggest win of his career. Although people hate when

812
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: I say shit like that, he is reaching back to

813
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: fight the number thirteen protest, and I know protest is

814
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: dangerous as hell, but if you believe like I do,

815
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: that Gary is maybe even the second best welterweight right

816
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: now in the UFC, and he's gonna prove it to

817
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: you and prove BC to be a prophet. Then I'm

818
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: not that concerned because he's still climbed, meaning when you're climbing,

819
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: you gotta take chances. And I think he proved to

820
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: himself in taking that chance against Shavcat that he really

821
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: really is of this level. Does he have things to

822
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: work on? Of course? Do you have to be a

823
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: little bit more offensive and have the opportunity to hurt

824
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: people and knock him out? All that is true, of course,

825
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: But you also brought up a good point about the smoking.

826
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: So let's go to Carlos protest talking about exactly how

827
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: much you know nicotine? He regularly ingests Purty. Yeah, it's

828
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Speaker 3: the fans, Broye.

829
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Maybe two or three facts like normal day. Not really,

830
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: Maybe he felt worrying about something. I'd be run back pretty.

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Speaker 3: So, Luke like, this is a five round main event,

832
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: and what Gary has proven is that you're not going

833
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: to walk through him. He's got sound defense, he's big,

834
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: he knows how to handle distance, he knows how to

835
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: counter in there. Do you think that when Nocida talked

836
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: about this matchup on Monday in our studio and he said,

837
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: I think Gary runs through him, and all these fans

838
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: got up in arms that hey, protest, you might want

839
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: to follow, O'Malley. Put away the gaming, the social media,

840
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: the jerkin and the smokes ahead of this because Gary

841
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: is coming to win. Luke, I'm not afraid of the

842
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: short turnaround or taking the chance here because he's actually

843
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: reaching back in the rankings, because you're not going to

844
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: get a title shot off of a loss unless your

845
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: name is Jose Aldo or Holly Holm. You're gonna have

846
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: to get a win. And if he gets a win

847
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: against this red hot dude, he's going to be right

848
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: there knocking on the title door.

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00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's like, okay, so let me tell you

850
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: what my problem with this is that I the more

851
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: I think about it, he had in Gary Rochmanov's back

852
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: and was looking for a choke, and his application of

853
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: the choke was a little I'm not trying to be insulting,

854
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: but you know, if we're nitpicking high level fighters in

855
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: bouts of consequence, we have to nitpick in that sense.

856
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: It was a little amateurs the nature of the things

857
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: for the white guy here. No no, no, no, no, no,

858
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: not white belt. I mean you're going against a good grappler.

859
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: It's not so easy. But what I mean is like,

860
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: and not everybody can be Charles Olavera, but there's a

861
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: certain degree of muscle memory that Charles Lavera shows where

862
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to like calculate the decision. He can

863
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: just kind of go with it, right, Whereas you could

864
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: see Gary kind of trying to force something that wasn't

865
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: really there and it didn't work, and I'm like a

866
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: little bit more polish, and we might be having a

867
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: very different conversation both about I and Gary as well

868
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: as Shofcat Rockmanov right where it could be in a

869
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: totally different position.

870
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

871
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: And so to me, it's like, to clean that up,

872
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: you need time in the gym and then just you know,

873
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: I understand that protest is not Rockmanov. They're very different fighters.

874
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: This there's probably going to be more of a striking contest,

875
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: and maybe he feels for that reason he could have

876
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: taken it on short notice. I'm simply saying, you know,

877
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: to me, a little bit of reinvestment in his game,

878
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: given that he's still quite young, I think will produce

879
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: much better long term results rather than and if he

880
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: beats prochess, you know. But let's say he does a

881
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: stick and move game plan, which we know he can

882
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: do right, a lot of lateral movement, touch and go.

883
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 2: He could win this, and then that could help propel

884
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: him a little bit forward. But you still wouldn't be

885
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: ready for the top guys because you had, you wouldn't

886
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: have ironed out the other issues. There just simply hasn't

887
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: been enough time. I think that's kind of my point.

888
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: So I love this fight. There's many things I love

889
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: about it. But what I am not gonna do is,

890
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: even if he goes in there and smokes process, I

891
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: don't think it's the kind of fight that you you

892
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: should be talking title win, title opportunities afterwards. I think

893
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: we need to give this dude some time to get better.

894
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: See, I think he's building a case for being a

895
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: star on the rise that I think he's going to

896
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: get those opportunities to cut the line. And I think

897
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: especially if he wins convincingly. Here, Hey, let's bring our

898
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: third member of the team who is well hung I

899
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: mean sorry, well hungover. Luke Garcita. Yeah, there he is, Luke.

900
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: You said he's gonna run through protest. You still believe

901
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: it now that the fight is true.

902
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: Now, I just feel like Eating Gary is super calculated

903
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: in the fights he takes, so like there's a reason

904
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: he's taking this fight. Also, like Carlos Protest, we've never

905
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: really seen tested on the ground.

906
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: I just feel like Ian Gary's gonna be able to

907
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: have his way with him, have his way.

908
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: Wow, dude, it might you know, he might just wrestle

909
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: him for five rounds, but whatever, that's having his way

910
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 4: with him, you know, like, yeah, yeah, I think it's

911
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: a good matchup for him.

912
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Honestly, Luke Thomas, do you do you at least applaud

913
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 3: that a year ago, all this talk was about cook

914
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 3: and ex husbands in BS, and now we're talking about,

915
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: you know, how badly this guy wants to win and

916
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: show us what he's made of.

917
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about that dumb shit other than the

918
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: extent you brought it up on the show, because I'm

919
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: not a fucking loser ass bitch. That's all.

920
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, well you say, and I am, Well, yeah,

921
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: I guess a little bit.

922
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean talking about that who I mean, it's the

923
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: ultimate who gives a fuck conversation. We're just talking about

924
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: a dude's personal life and half the details are completely

925
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: invented out of thin air. What the fuck are we doing?

926
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: This is a total waste of time, Like, dude, do

927
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: people do people not reflect on their behavior at all

928
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: and look at this and say, holy shit, you got

929
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: to be an under sex fucking loser or to even

930
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: engage in this conversation to fucking begin with.

931
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: Well, I have been married for almost eighteen years, Luke,

932
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: so kind of fits into the you know what I mean?

933
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, your honor, the defense arrest, the defense arrests.

934
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: So three weeks from now we will be seeing that

935
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: fight in Casey, and it is a hell of a

936
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: good fight. We'll have a lot more answers about where

937
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: Gary's going, and obviously the top of this division will

938
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: see JDM against Bilal Shavcott's got to get back from injury.

939
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: This this division rules. I can't wait. Poor Jeff Neil, Luke,

940
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: He's out. But this is a better matchup here, So

941
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm fired up.

942
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: This is definitely a better fight than the I mean,

943
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong. I like the Jeff Neil fight.

944
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: It was a good fight, but dude, this one has heat.

945
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm all about it.

946
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: Plug the UFC for upgrading the matchup, and again, I

947
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: think they kind of had to do it, given that

948
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: that's a big TKO weekend, but I'm glad they did it.

949
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: They didn't just roll Derek Lewis against you know.

950
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: Uh, marching Taibora four or whatever.

951
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: I know, come on, and that's what people were thinking

952
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: that they were gonna do. By the way, all right,

953
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: let's go to topic number three, and it's looking to

954
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 3: head to this weekend. On Saturday night, the UFC Apex

955
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 3: will be populated again with another fight night card.

956
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: Is it deep?

957
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's got a couple things worth looking at, and

958
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: one of those things is, of course, this main event

959
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: in the featherweight division. Hard hitting Josh Emmett is back.

960
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: He's a man, he's pushing forty, but he is welcoming

961
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: the number ten Laron Murphy, who is looking for his moment,

962
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: Josh Emmett coming in at number eight, and Luke considering

963
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: Laren Murphy is fifteen zero to one as a pro

964
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: unbeaten in eight UFC fights, a three to one betting

965
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: favorite against Emmett and coming off of wins against Edson

966
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 3: Barbosa and Dan Egay why have we not and why

967
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: are we not talking about Murphy more seriously as a

968
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: legitimate contender for the featherweight title.

969
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: A lot of his fights have been in the apex,

970
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: a lot of his opponents have been good, but not

971
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: the kind that made it all that interesting. He to

972
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: my knowledge, at least on this side of the pond,

973
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: doesn't do what appears to be any media whatsoever. And

974
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: so he's just a very quiet figure. But to the

975
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: point that you raise he's fucking good, like, he's real good.

976
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: And was it the EGA fight, I believe that's right

977
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: where he got rocked several times and was able to

978
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: kind of persevere and then get the w like, So

979
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: he's not just well rounded and the stats speak to

980
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: that BC here and we can go through them here

981
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: in a minute. But uh, he is, I would argue

982
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: at this point pretty battle tested and surging, and you know,

983
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: we don't we don't. There's it's really interesting like when

984
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: we talk about like who are the surging UK fighters,

985
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: for some reason, Murphy is not always or you know,

986
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: typically I should say, is not at the front of

987
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: that list. He fucking should be. He's real, real, real

988
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: skilled and Josh Emmett has been off since. This is

989
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: his first fight since the Bryce Mitchell fight. He's been

990
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: off for quite some time. This is a tough ass

991
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: assignment for him, and, as he indicated getting close to forty,

992
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: a super tough fight. Laren Murphy is a dangerous opponent.

993
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: The odds, as as I teased earlier from DraftKings, Murphy

994
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: is a minus three twenty five favorite in this five

995
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: round about plus two sixty for Emmett Luke. If people

996
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: know the name Laren Murphy but don't know the game,

997
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: what do you what would you say? He does bring

998
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: to the table.

999
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: Super completely, utterly well rounded and not just well rounded, like,

1000
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: oh I can do this well, I can do this well.

1001
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: But the blend of everything is you can tell thought

1002
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: has been put into this. When you look at the

1003
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: game plan, you can do. His game plans, you can

1004
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: tell are very precisely ironed out. I'm not saying they

1005
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 2: have a memorized for every single situation, but there's direction,

1006
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: there's purpose, there's intentionality, there's by the way, and I

1007
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: know this is like a thing that you know I should.

1008
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how people are interpreted when I say

1009
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: something like this, but MMA is so offensively based that

1010
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: people's defense is typically pretty bad. His defense is actually

1011
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: quite good. His cardio is good. He's big for the

1012
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: weight class. By the way, consider this, he has a

1013
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: three inch reach advantage on Emmett and his three inches

1014
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: taller as well. He's just a bigger physical presence. Now,

1015
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: em it's a little bit of a short stack for

1016
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: this weight class relatively speaking. But I'm just saying he's

1017
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: got the physical tools, he's got the brain power, he's

1018
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: got the overall skilled development, and we've just been kind

1019
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: of waiting to see him get the experience and see

1020
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: exactly who he could beat. But he keeps answering these

1021
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: challenges quite effectively. He is a well rounded fighter. B

1022
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: se if I may Lan's four point eight significant strikes

1023
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: per minute that's high, only absorbs two point sixty seven,

1024
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: so he's got a very positive differential averages per fifteen minutes.

1025
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: This is a five round five but per fifteen minutes

1026
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: one point seven to eight takedown, so nearly two per

1027
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. Almost take down accuracy and take down defense

1028
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: are roughly in the fifty percent range, But that's not

1029
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: the biggest part of his game. He just uses that

1030
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: to mix it up. He can do anything. He can

1031
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: do absolutely anything. He can fight absolutely anywhere, not a

1032
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 2: specialist necessarily anywhere other than that blend BC. That's where

1033
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: he really shines.

1034
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: Well done, Well done. Murphy took to media Day and

1035
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: talked about his new contract with the UFC and his

1036
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: belief that despite entering this fight ranked tenth at the one,

1037
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: four or five, he believes this is a number one

1038
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: contender fight. Let's listen in.

1039
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: First fight on your new contract. I know when you

1040
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: announced it, man, it seemed I don't know, like a

1041
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: special moment. Were there discussions around it or was it

1042
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: simply the figures that were on that contract. It seemed

1043
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: like it was like like a milestone for you, even

1044
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: though you've been around for a while.

1045
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 9: For me, the contracts a contracts. I'm here to fight

1046
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 9: in it. But I've got six fight contracts, which is good,

1047
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 9: and it's just just the word and in the contract

1048
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 9: for me, he's like the UFC behind me, and so

1049
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 9: I see, and I've been even going to go on

1050
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 9: to do big things.

1051
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: I think I like to do the announcement cause you're

1052
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 2: like the road to the title starts now. So I mean,

1053
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: obviously You've always been building that, right, you have this

1054
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: amazing record, all your accomplished, but does it feel like

1055
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: this signifies like a very important milestone or or you know,

1056
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: part in that journey, particularly all the contract itself. Yeah,

1057
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: and just this moment in your career.

1058
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, for sure and fighting number eight in

1059
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 9: the world. Josh Emmon's been around India. Borio went on

1060
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 9: to fight for the title after Josh Emmett. So for me,

1061
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 9: this is the number one contend to fight. I feel

1062
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 9: like behind Lopez and Volcanoski fight in the week after.

1063
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 9: I think this is the this is the best fight

1064
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 9: in the division for me, this is the number one

1065
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 9: contend to fight. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

1066
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 3: Look, with all due respect, that can't be true.

1067
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Unlikely, unlikely, But I mean I can understand why. Like,

1068
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: you know, again, quietly building a very quality resume, not

1069
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: a lot of pomp and circumstance. Again, you don't see

1070
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: a lot of interviews. You don't see them out there,

1071
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, jacking off are doing talk dances on social media.

1072
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: But when it comes time to lock the cage door,

1073
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: he goes to work. Make no mistake about that.

1074
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: Kind of has a Leon Edwards. You know, understated presidents.

1075
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 3: They are coming from with that accent, from that area

1076
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: of the world.

1077
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 2: All right.

1078
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: Josh Emmon is forty years old officially, but he has

1079
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: not fought in fifteen months. We mentioned that viral first

1080
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 3: round devastating knockout of Bryce Mitchell, but the two fights

1081
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: before that, he lost a five round decision to Eliot

1082
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: Taporia and was submitted in round two fighting for the

1083
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: interim featherweight title back in February of twenty twenty three

1084
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: against I I A. Rodriguez. In that fight snapped a

1085
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: five fight winning streak for him. Emmett says that Murphy

1086
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 3: here is in for a root awakening. Let's listen.

1087
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 7: I know he's been working on his weaknesses hence be

1088
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 7: his grappling and his wrestling over the years. I've seen

1089
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 7: a lot of improvement in his later fights. I know

1090
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 7: he says he's still learning on the job. You know,

1091
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 7: there's no learning on the job. One year in there

1092
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 7: with me, you know, I only yeah, we'll see. But yeah,

1093
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 7: he's good. But uh, you know, he's never fought anybody

1094
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 7: like me. I know he thinks he's fought someone similar

1095
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 7: to me. But knowing that he's fought, he's even close

1096
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 7: to me, and he's going to be in for a

1097
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: root awakening on Saturday night. Yeah, at the end of

1098
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 7: the day, I just have to go out there and win.

1099
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 7: Like I've never been in a boring fight. I know

1100
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 7: what the UFC wants to see. I know what the

1101
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 7: fans want to see. They're excited when I'm when I'm

1102
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 7: on a card because every strike I throw, I'm trying

1103
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 7: to finish the fight. And Uh, I don't feel like

1104
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 7: i have to go out there and make a statement,

1105
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 7: but I'm going to. And the goal is to be

1106
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 7: a world champion. That's always been my goal. Murphy wasn't

1107
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 7: the original opponent I wanted because he's behind me. It's

1108
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 7: a high risk for really no reward. But at the

1109
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 7: end of the day, I've never turned down a fight.

1110
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 7: I've always fought these fights. I fought the best in

1111
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 7: the world. So I should be able to go out

1112
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 7: there handle business and uh, and then we'll see what's next.

1113
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 3: Look. He would go on to say in that same

1114
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: sit down that in the time off, he's worked on

1115
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: his power, and he says his power is way more

1116
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 3: potent and brutal. I mean the media even questioned him,

1117
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: said how is that even possible? And he says, you

1118
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: know he's going to bring it. So look those recent losses, right,

1119
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: two losses in his last what eight fights, only they

1120
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 3: were against super elites. It's Ilio Taporia and Yayi Rodriguez.

1121
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: Do you think even at age forty, let's say you

1122
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: get to win here like is there's still time for

1123
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: him to make noise atop this division?

1124
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: Okay? So I mean Ilia leaving actually makes it a

1125
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: little bit easier because he obviously lost to the guy,

1126
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: and it also is just one less top ranked guy.

1127
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: The fact that Pitbull was subbed in, though, makes it

1128
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: a little bit harder, you know what I mean? And

1129
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: so I do think there is time. He's not the

1130
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: most charismatic guy on the mic. We interviewed him on

1131
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 2: roobserver his diars. I want to be clear, I actually

1132
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: really enjoyed our conversation. But I'm just saying, when I

1133
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: observe how the fan base receives him, it doesn't I

1134
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: do like him, and they love his fighting style, but

1135
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: they don't necessarily respond to his personality exactly. I don't

1136
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: think that's unfair. Uh, And you know that is probably

1137
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: going to limit him to a degree. However, you know

1138
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: that knockout of Bryce Mitchell was it's literally one of

1139
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: the most vicious knockouts in UFC history. That is especially

1140
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: especially be a punch. So like, if you eliminated like

1141
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: the most vicious knockouts with kicks and those only with punches,

1142
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: that that's either going to be at or near the

1143
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: top of that list to to to be to be

1144
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: quite clear. And then on the other side of Bryce,

1145
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: you could say, yeah, I mean he gave him a

1146
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: he gave him a brain injury in all likelihood, right,

1147
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean that was really bad. So I think that

1148
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: those things could definitely buoy him. But the problem is this,

1149
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: like if you're a pit bull and you beat Yaeir, Hello,

1150
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: you're the best fighter in bellator history and you just

1151
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: beat a top ranked, super exciting fighter. That's great. Or conversely,

1152
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: you're a top ranked guy plus they want to go

1153
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: back to Mexico for nocha UFC, Like you're just going

1154
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: to move to the front of the line. If you're

1155
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: Laron Murphy, you get a big name on your resume

1156
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 2: for sure, but not necessarily like a fan darling. And

1157
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: by contrast, if you're Josh Emmett, you beat Laron Murphy.

1158
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: It's quality in either direction, but it's a couple of

1159
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: quiet guys, you know what I mean. And for that reason,

1160
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to say exactly like they're gonna

1161
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: get thrust to the front of this division if they win.

1162
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: It's it's quality all the way around. But as we

1163
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: just saw with one thirty five, quality is only part

1164
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: of the conversation.

1165
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about who wins and how they win.

1166
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: And before I get that from you, I want to

1167
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: bring in our betting expert co host of the main card,

1168
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 3: min At Luke Nosina. Luke, I gotta believe you're itching

1169
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: at the idea even with the fifteen month layoff of

1170
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: Emmett at plus two sixty, do you agree with what

1171
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: he said that Murphy may be great, but he never

1172
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: fought anybody like Emma before.

1173
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 4: One hundred percent, Lauren Murphy, the only person who's fault

1174
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: in the top fifteen was Dany Gay. Danny Gay's number fifteen.

1175
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean, he hasn't fault anyone in the top fourteen.

1176
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 4: Josh Emmett, I believe his last five fights against top

1177
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 4: fifteen guys, you mentioned he went five rounds of ilia. Dude,

1178
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 4: I just feel like this is like forty years old

1179
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: or not. The vet's going to get the win here. Also,

1180
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: Laron Murphy. His path to victory usually is implementing the wrestling.

1181
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 4: Josh Emmett comes from tam Malfa, mil They got great

1182
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: takedown defense. They always got that guietine, you know, Like

1183
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 4: I like Josh Emmont in this fight a lot.

1184
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: I gotta say I took him down three times in

1185
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: one round.

1186
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: All right, that's Taporia, that's La Liende.

1187
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: Say it, say it, that's Taporia the magician.

1188
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,959
Speaker 3: Lt You heard our betting expert loving the plus money,

1189
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: but he loves plus money on almost anyone. Do you

1190
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: like the veteran in this matchup?

1191
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Laron Murphy. Now, I say that

1192
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: with some degree of trepidation, because here's the thing, Like,

1193
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: how would you classify Emmett's style? You could say boxer puncher,

1194
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: but he's not really a boxer. Sorry, a boxer wrestler,

1195
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: I apologize, but he's not exactly a boxer. He's more

1196
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: a puncher wrestler.

1197
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 3: I mean to interrupt you. Do you remember he told

1198
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: us at RSD on the couch in Vegas, and we

1199
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: couldn't believe it. He doesn't have game plans, doesn't he

1200
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: doesn't make adjustments.

1201
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: He fights, and Loroon Murphy is the exact opposite. So

1202
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: here's the thing, Like, if Laron Murphy makes the same

1203
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: kinds of mistakes against Emmett that he did against Egay,

1204
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna wake up looking at the fucking lights. I mean,

1205
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: there's really just no two. You know, Josh Emmett has

1206
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: nuclear power. It's just next level armageddon when he balls

1207
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: up the fist, to quote the great Vinnie Pass. But

1208
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: I think a guy like Murphy should be able to

1209
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: neutralize that. He's skilled enough at this point, should be

1210
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: experienced enough. And I take the plus money might be

1211
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: a good bet. You know, it was one of those

1212
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: things for you can kind of hedge, but head to head,

1213
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: I'll take Murphy.

1214
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm leaning Murphy here. I love the matchmaking. I

1215
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: love the opportunity really for both fighters, because if this

1216
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: would be an impressive two wins in a row, even

1217
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: with the time off, should Emmett get it? And like

1218
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: we said, the two recent losses were against super elites.

1219
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: Even though it did seem like he not folded, but

1220
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: he got handled by ya year in less than two rounds.

1221
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 3: But it was a long time ago. We have one

1222
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: more piece of sound to throw to. I don't think

1223
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: a loss puts them at you know, even have forty

1224
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: in territory of needing a new job. But he's been

1225
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: taking notice of what's going on in the GFL, particularly

1226
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: the pay scale. Let's see, I mean if they ever

1227
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: have their first card, Luke, but let's hear Josh Imma

1228
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: talk about.

1229
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: That for me.

1230
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 9: Are you stoked that the team leader your I favor

1231
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 9: is coming back to fight again?

1232
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1233
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's yeah, a lot of guys, you know, they're

1234
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 7: coming back, and yeah, I want to go down there

1235
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 7: and watch that fight. I'm curious to see how the

1236
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 7: that organization kind of pans out and plays out. But yeah,

1237
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 7: it's it seems like a lot of you know, veterans

1238
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 7: for sure, or fighting each other and in people that

1239
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 7: were in this organization. So yeah, more power to them

1240
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 7: because they're making a I know some of the pay

1241
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 7: that these guys are making, and it's it's ridiculous. I

1242
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 7: wish I could go hop over and do one fight

1243
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 7: then I'll come back.

1244
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it pretty well?

1245
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 6: To see those numbers.

1246
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they last more than two events? Who knows?

1247
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: We'll find out.

1248
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: Look, is that an indictment on the UFC?

1249
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: Or are we doing this?

1250
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: Or is this some money laundering operation that will not

1251
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: be there after the first Golden Boy?

1252
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: The trick to being an MMA fighter, and I've seen

1253
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: this so long that like that you just can't even

1254
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: deny it is that, like, like, okay, there's a few

1255
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: different ways. Okay, very basic question. How do you make

1256
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: a lot of money fighting at MMA? All right? So

1257
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: the first answer is obvious. Become a UFC champion and

1258
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: get pay per viewpoints or you know, becomes some kind

1259
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: of celebrated figure. I realized that pay per view buyerser down,

1260
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 2: but you know, historically speaking, that's been one. Okay, that's one. Two.

1261
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: You can be somebody who gets a lot of bonuses,

1262
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like Chris Little ended up

1263
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: getting like another million dollars added to his career earnings

1264
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: from just from five bonuses. Jolson told me all the

1265
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: five bonuses are what enabled him to pay for his

1266
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: gym to open it up. And you know, again it's

1267
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: not like getting striking it rich, but definitely being able

1268
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: to like change your life in pretty fundamental ways with

1269
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: that money. That's another one. The other way to do it,

1270
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: if you can get it, is to take advantage of

1271
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: the very limited window of scam operations that pay more

1272
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: money than they ever should. They don't last, but to

1273
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: the extent you can just surf that little wave, you

1274
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: can get a serious financial windfall. I have seen it

1275
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: over and over again. So that's one way you can

1276
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: absolutely make money in this business.

1277
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 3: I think, well, turn that shit coin into a hawk ta.

1278
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you we need to launch an mk

1279
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: shitcoin and then rug pull the listeners and then just

1280
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: move somewhere quietly and never and never talk to them again.

1281
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we'll be on the beach with Andy from

1282
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 3: Shawshank just living our best life. Luke, let's look up

1283
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: and down this card here. Pat Sabatini of Philadelphia fame

1284
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: back in the co main event and a featherweight bout

1285
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: again Joe Anderson, Brito, Do you care about that one

1286
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: at all?

1287
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one. Should be an interesting grappling battle. That

1288
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: should be a very interesting grappling battle. So you know,

1289
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: Pat Sabbatini is kind of like move forward and then

1290
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: kind of taking a step back and move forward and

1291
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: taking a step back. But this is an interesting, interesting one. Also,

1292
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: the UFC fighter with the most college football name ever

1293
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: is competing BC Cortevius Romius. Yes, that's a that's a

1294
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: college football name, dude, I saw a college football name

1295
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: the other day. I'm not kidding. You can look this up.

1296
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: Please double check this. Booby Feaster. Yep, Booby Feaster.

1297
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: It's crazy that that key and pell skit, which was

1298
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: hilarious is real life now across college sports. It's wild.

1299
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: It really is wild, man. I mean, there's a few

1300
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: matchups to care about. GM three back against bred Tavares

1301
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: at you can smell what Torres is cooking as the

1302
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: three time DWCS alumni. Torres Finney will open this six

1303
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: fight main card at middleweight against Robert Valentine. I don't

1304
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: think you really care about that, do.

1305
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: You not much? But I will say Davey Grant ticket

1306
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: on Daniel Santos is pretty interesting as far as I'm

1307
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: concerned for me personally, Loma Luke Boone Me against Estella

1308
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: Nunez actually has a fair amount of value. Victor Henry

1309
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: Josh Barnett train fighter is very good against Pedro Falcon

1310
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: and then you know for opening two fights. By the way,

1311
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: this dude Dan Sati Baldiev, the uh I believe he's

1312
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: I think he's Kazakh or wwiger. What is he? He

1313
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: is Kyrgyzstan. He's a Kyrgystan. He's real good and kind

1314
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: of interesting taking on Morton Boudet. And then your your

1315
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: favorite BC, Vanessa Demopolis is back against Telita alan Kar,

1316
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: a very very good jiu jitsu black belt.

1317
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: Would you agree, outside of the jokes we can make

1318
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: and that the stripper pol training, that she Vanessa is

1319
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 3: one of the best UFC Fight Night TV fighters they have.

1320
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: They always put her on the first fight and it's

1321
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: always exciting and she comes from behind and then jumps

1322
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: in somebody's arms like it's good TV.

1323
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: Right.

1324
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: She is memorable. She has a fun personality and she

1325
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: delivers for the most part, action fights. Yes, for a

1326
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: TV fighter, she delivers absolutely.

1327
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: Lukenoshita, what should our degenerate fans be betting on when

1328
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: it comes to this card this weekend?

1329
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Speaker 4: I mean, besides josh Emmett in the main event, I

1330
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 4: do like GM three against Brad Tavares. They're both they're

1331
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 4: both like three days apart in age. They're both thirty

1332
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 4: seven years old, roughly the same UFC experience. I mean, dude,

1333
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: you gotta take GM three here thirty five of his

1334
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: thirty seven wins by finish. Brad Tavar has been finished

1335
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 4: five times before. I do like Brad Tavar's and he

1336
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,959
Speaker 4: normally goes long, but I got a ride with GM

1337
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: three here. As far as fights to watch, you were

1338
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: mentioned that Terz Finny fight. Dude, Robert Valentine coming off

1339
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: a tough He's in the tough finale, gets controlled for

1340
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 4: five of the seven minutes that fight. Win on the

1341
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 4: ground terz Finny averages, Luke, how about this ten takedowns

1342
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: per fifteen minutes.

1343
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: That's insane.

1344
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 4: I've never even absolutely fucking I think he's just gonna wrestle,

1345
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 4: like probably finish him in like the second round or something.

1346
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: But he's definitely just gonna wrestle. You know what that means, though,

1347
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: If you have ten takedowns in fifteen minutes, that means

1348
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: you can't hold him down for shit, That's what that means,

1349
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: all right, But you can get him down, and that's

1350
01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: all that matters here.

1351
01:04:59,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1352
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 3: Look, Diana, Belbeta is also back in this but she

1353
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 3: has lost five for last seven, so that's.

1354
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 9: Not I wish.

1355
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: Sure well, but that's not exactly appointment viewing.

1356
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: Odei Osbourne will be in the preliminary featured about at flyweight.

1357
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: He's lost four of his last five, including his last three.

1358
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 3: He'll welcome a non Wikipedia page entry, Luis Garul. Maybe

1359
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: he'll be end up in GFL. I don't know whatever,

1360
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: we'll see.

1361
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: He's undefeated. Louis's undefeated, all.

1362
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: Right, then this is that type of matchmaking to find

1363
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: out if he's ready. Anything else you want to say

1364
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 3: about UFCAPEX.

1365
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: No main event is real? Good? Is there?

1366
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 9: It is?

1367
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: I like it, Let's keep it going. Topic number four

1368
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: PFL one last night ten pm Eastern start on that

1369
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: main card, but I watched it live main card and

1370
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. It was from Universal Studios in Florida

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: in their new residency there in Orlando. It was the

1372
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Speaker 3: first night of the tournament season welterweights and featherweights, and

1373
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: in that main event, former Belator welterweight champion Jason the

1374
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: Kicking Machine Jackson took on another former champion in Spartan Koreshkov,

1375
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 3: and Andre got elbowed on the top of the dome

1376
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: head was bleeding and shortly after he got submitted. So,

1377
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, I do want your thoughts on the main event,

1378
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: but first on an overarching look, there's been so much

1379
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: criticism against PFL. What did you make of the changes

1380
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: that they made to the broadcast, the format, and the

1381
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: presentation on Thursday night?

1382
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: I liked it. I thought PFL generally speaking, did really well.

1383
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: I think, generally speaking, that was a very good effort

1384
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: by them. That was evidence that they are listening. It

1385
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: was evidence that they have people internally in the organization

1386
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: giving them good advice and that they took it. And

1387
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: I thought not everything, not everything, but I thought a

1388
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: lot of it worked. I enjoyed that brought. So let

1389
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: me say a couple of things. I spoke to some

1390
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: folks who work at PFL. I have I had questions,

1391
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: why the fuck did they have a ten pm East

1392
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: Coast start time for the main card. So the way

1393
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: it was explained to me is that's a call from

1394
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: ESPN and there's just not much PFL can do about it.

1395
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: And BC I have some good news and I have

1396
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: some bad news about some future start times. Are you ready?

1397
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: All right? I think it's either two or three weeks

1398
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: from now this one. I have to double check. But

1399
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: in one of those, the main card start time will

1400
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: be seven pm. Primo can't wait. Perfect end during the undercard,

1401
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: that's great, exactly. My understanding, however, is, and again this

1402
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: is not pfl's call, it's ESPN's call. My understanding is

1403
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: that next week's main card starts at eleven PM, which

1404
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: is a fucking backbreaker, if ever there was one. I

1405
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: can't stand that. But that's what I've been told. That

1406
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: is what I've been told. Now that aside, let's just

1407
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: talk about last night BC. What did I like about it?

1408
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: First of all, it looked like they were in a

1409
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: much nicer apex. Yes, and it turns out you can

1410
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: do a studio fight if you put a little effort

1411
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: into it. And they had that big wall, the you

1412
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: know that big screen wall behind them where the fighters

1413
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: come out. They had the ramp, BC. Did you like

1414
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: those like video stanchions all throughout the cage on the outside.

1415
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 1: I did it.

1416
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: I did.

1417
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: And the thing I also liked is when it was

1418
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 2: time to go to the fight, when when both fighters

1419
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 2: had entered the cage. They had the lighting truss above

1420
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: could force all the lights down and make it look

1421
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: like real nice As a consequence, I thought that was awesome.

1422
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,919
Speaker 2: I thought overall the look was great. Did the graphics

1423
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: package look.

1424
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 8: It?

1425
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: Was it me?

1426
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: Or did the screen in general, from the colorization to

1427
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: the quality of the cameras, It just looked top shelf.

1428
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: It really looked awesome in tattooing. What they say is

1429
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: two things. The colors looked saturated, and then when you

1430
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: look at it, it popped. All the colors popped right

1431
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: in your face that way. And they did a lot

1432
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: of like doing the Humans stories of Jason Jackson, which

1433
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: by the way, I thought they were good. That to

1434
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: me slowed down the broadcast a little bit, if I

1435
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: may so. I didn't love that part. I also thought

1436
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: poor Dan Hardy, I mean, he was doing there's nothing

1437
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: he could do, but his voice was going that was

1438
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 2: kind of weird. I do think we have to have

1439
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: a conversation about, like to what extent Kator is adding

1440
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: a lot to these broadcasts. I obviously he's a legend

1441
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,879
Speaker 2: in the fucking game, and you know, I think look could.

1442
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: Be on our show in another fifteen minutes yeah, No,

1443
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: I don't have.

1444
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't have I don't have anything bad to say

1445
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: about him. I just don't know, like, do they need

1446
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: a three man booth. It's not exactly clear to me

1447
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: that they do.

1448
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 3: I love Randy though, still, I just enjoy his presence.

1449
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying is after is he washed?

1450
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 4: Now?

1451
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: I don't think he's washed. No, he's not out there

1452
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: just saying bullshit. You know it's not that. But the

1453
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: last thing I want to say is and this is like,

1454
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: you know, clear proof that they listen to people. Obviously,

1455
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: the simplified format helped, you know, all the all the

1456
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: bigger decisions helped in terms of the television execution. B see,

1457
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: but how about getting rid of those dumb fuck stats.

1458
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: Here's how fast my shin was traveling, bitch, nobody cares,

1459
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: nobody ever give a fuck, and you're taking up all

1460
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: this dumb ass real estate on the screen. They bye

1461
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: by dude, less is more, less is more. They streamlined,

1462
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: they simplified, They took the existing things that they do well,

1463
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: they made them pop, from the graphics to the presentation

1464
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: to the whole bit. I I enjoyed this show quite

1465
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: a bit.

1466
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 3: I agree it looks so professional and that matters. It

1467
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: made me want to sit and watch it. It made

1468
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: fights with guys that I knew already and maybe weren't

1469
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: overly excited for. But I was like, it just looks

1470
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 3: so good. I mean, how much they zoomed in with

1471
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: the cameras when they're fighting against the cage like. It

1472
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,799
Speaker 3: was well shot, well presented. Not having a busy screen

1473
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 3: played a big part. The graphics popped. They were perfect.

1474
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 3: And also I got to say, like in the past

1475
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 3: they would integrate Jonathan Coachman and Ian Parker but bring

1476
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 3: them in on like fuzzy skypes feeds. I like when

1477
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: they brought Parker down between fights to the announced team

1478
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: and talked about the odds. I liked having Jonathan Coachman

1479
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: walk around the arena and talk about the fan base,

1480
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: chairing for fighters or doing the sit down interviews. And

1481
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: did they do too much of essentially the same personality

1482
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:12,839
Speaker 3: preview packages. Yes, but think about this. We complained often

1483
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: that they don't utilize what they have. They don't push

1484
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: the stars forward, that the smart Cage is the most

1485
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: famous member of their fight roster. At least they're trying

1486
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: to show you that these guys can be stars. I mean,

1487
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about that main event in

1488
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: a second in terms of the fight itself. But Jason

1489
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 3: Jackson is thirty four years old from Jamaica. Look is,

1490
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: he's won nine of his last ten overall, and if

1491
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: you look at the names he beat like he may

1492
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 3: have lost the beltre title in his last fight in

1493
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: Ireland in June of last year, but outside of that,

1494
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 3: he beat Jordan me and Benson Henderson, Nieman, Gracie, Paul Daley,

1495
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 3: Douglas Lima, knocked out Yarslav Amasov when he was unbeaten

1496
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 3: to win the title, stopped Ray Cooper the third, and

1497
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: now goes in there and dominates and puts away a

1498
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: strong former champion in Core. That is the type of

1499
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 3: guy they should be pushing, and they did that. So

1500
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to sit here and do this. I mean,

1501
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: I do still have a larger problem. Even though they

1502
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: took this convoluted regular season playoff thing and made I

1503
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: guess the right decision and making it single elimination easier

1504
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: to understand. You know who fights who. I like that

1505
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: they brought in the next fighter to do the face off.

1506
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 3: That's all good. I guess my only issue connected to

1507
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 3: that is really like where does it lead? The winner

1508
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 3: kind of maybe gets a title shot, maybe in a

1509
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: champion series. What is a champion?

1510
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 4: Like?

1511
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: We still have too many belts and I still feel

1512
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: like I'm not sure where it leads. But for an

1513
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 3: opening statement, after they've taken nothing but a PR beating

1514
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: in recent months, and a lot of it was deserved, Yeah,

1515
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: they kind of made me want to tune in next

1516
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: time and see what other fighters that I normally would

1517
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: dismiss might actually have both good stories and have good

1518
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: fights on this level. So luke, let's hit that man.

1519
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: One final point, if I made them to challenge that,

1520
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: like wrong, I fully co signed having Ian Parker there

1521
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: was great coachman with the mic and moving around was great.

1522
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: They had a backstage reporter, a woman I don't know

1523
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 2: her name, but she she's like the reporter for the

1524
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: Washington Nationals, so I've seen her a million times in

1525
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: the local market. I forget her name whatever, but you know,

1526
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: they they all of those pieces I enjoyed. My point

1527
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: my challenge to PFL would be this, I absolutely think

1528
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: that telling these guys' stories is important. But I'm a

1529
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: little bit like gonna call bullshit on it because I'm

1530
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: sorry to tell you this, but the PFL media, like

1531
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: the PFL PR people, they're nice people, but like as

1532
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: a posture, PFL is disdainful of media. Like the only

1533
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: person that they had doing media was Sean O'Connell on

1534
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: Aeriel Show, and that was fucking it. They don't pitch people.

1535
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 2: When they do, it's a bullshit pitch. I'm sorry to say.

1536
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: I've brought us up a million times. They had Francis here,

1537
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: they had Jake Paul here. Nobody could talk to them.

1538
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: When you ask why, they don't ever have an answer.

1539
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: They're not good about getting their fighters in front of

1540
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: people who can tell their stories them. By the time

1541
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: the fights come around, they have to shove it all

1542
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: in there, and you know, some of that is great,

1543
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: but it becomes a little bit much. So I think

1544
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: having a different media strategy can alleviate some of that

1545
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: pressure a little bit. To just stuff so much into

1546
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: the broadcast, that's it.

1547
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: I agree. Also, what could help them is taking their

1548
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 3: actual best fighters and put them in featured in this tournament.

1549
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: But that's my opinion. It's neither here nor there. Let's

1550
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 3: talk about Jason Jackson. I mentioned the larger run he

1551
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: has been on, even though he did technically lose the

1552
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 3: belot Or title last year against a guy's name who

1553
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: I can't pronounce. What's that fella, Ramazan Coramago Medoff, So

1554
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,560
Speaker 3: I guess I can't pronounce it, Luke. He's meeting a

1555
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: lot of people, and he looked like the better fighter

1556
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 3: against the guy who I've always loved to watch in Koreshkov.

1557
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: And now and we're gonna talk about the guy who's

1558
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 3: gonna face it in the next round, they've actually created

1559
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 3: an even better fight coming off. How impressed were you

1560
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 3: with Jason Jackson in that main event?

1561
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: So how do I say this? It's not like I

1562
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: didn't see anything. Okay, the only stuff I saw from

1563
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: Jason Jackson in terms of what he was trying and

1564
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, none of it was bad. I mean,

1565
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: he pressed up Koreshkov up against the fence for a

1566
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: long time in the first round, and that was a

1567
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: little annoying, But he didn't look bad at all. He

1568
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: looked good for as much as we saw it. But BC, like,

1569
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: we just have to say it, man, And I know

1570
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: this fucking sounds like a broken record. To be clear,

1571
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: it's definitely not a UFC problem. It's an MMA problem.

1572
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: Jason Jackson is up against the fence with Koreshkov uses

1573
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 2: I think a Kosoto hook to pull him off and

1574
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: then take him down, and he has an arm over him,

1575
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: and Koreshkov is intertal and he els excuse me else

1576
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: he lands an elbow on him that cuts him in

1577
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: the back of the head. He gets the full five

1578
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 2: minutes to recover, but he doesn't really actually recover because

1579
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: basically right after that, or not long after that, anyway,

1580
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 2: he takes him down, passes the mount and then closes

1581
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: closes the freaking show. And my point is, like Keith

1582
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 2: Peterson didn't take a point called an accidental foul, which

1583
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I mean, who could give a

1584
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 2: shit less if it's accidental when it's that impactful, a clear,

1585
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: unequivocal shot to the back of the head. I don't

1586
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: think Jason Jackson is a dirty fighter. That's absolutely not

1587
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: my point. But that was that was a negligent shot.

1588
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have thrown it. It was too heavy, it

1589
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: had an obvious impact on the fight, and I'm sorry

1590
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 2: to say this, but Koreshkov was done wrong by Keith Peterson. Koreshkov,

1591
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: we have yet another main event BC where a foul

1592
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: of consequence happens and the referees just sit there and

1593
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: look at it, like, you know, like like a people

1594
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: on the New York City subway when a homeless person's

1595
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: going crazy and they just don't want any part of it,

1596
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: and they just pretend it's not even happening. Like, I'm

1597
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: so fucking tired of it. It is an epidemic at

1598
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: this point, and it affected the results of this fight.

1599
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: There's simply no other way to say it.

1600
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: That's a very fair point. I didn't emphasize that because

1601
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: they gave him so much time. But you're you're right,

1602
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: it was, you know, and it's possible that Dom Cruise

1603
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 3: was right about Keith Peterson smelling like cold cuts and

1604
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: cheap women. But that was a that was a big

1605
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: time fail. But Luke, were you not entertained on the

1606
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 3: idea of who this guy will fight next? Because in

1607
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 3: the in the featured prelimb about before that on ESPN Plus,

1608
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 3: how do we say it Thad or tad?

1609
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 2: No, my understanding, it's thatad Fad Gene.

1610
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: Thatad Gene there in one round against Mukammed Berkamov, who's

1611
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: good by the way and had a big fan base there.

1612
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: And dude, that combination that he landed to knock him

1613
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 3: down and then finish him with strikes nine And oho

1614
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: is that Gene? Holy crap? Is he fighting out a

1615
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: Haiti too?

1616
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 8: Like?

1617
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 3: That's Gaff Pierre's guy right there.

1618
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: I think he's fighting out of South Florida.

1619
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 4: But do he?

1620
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 2: I saw him on the mic. He he talked to

1621
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 2: the other the roving reporter of the one who's from

1622
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: the Washington Nets. Again, forgive me, I don't remember her name.

1623
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 2: He's interesting on the mic. Dynamic fun that was such

1624
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: a huge win. Berkowmov is a excuse me, how I

1625
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: always fuck up his name?

1626
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: Uh?

1627
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 2: Where is it here on this thing? Oh? Yeah?

1628
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 8: Uh.

1629
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: Berkhamov is a AC or was anyway ACB Champ, which

1630
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: is perhaps the most prestigious kind of semi regional ish

1631
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: internationalist title you can get out of Russia. It's a

1632
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 2: very very legitimate promotion in terms of like the kind

1633
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: of talent they recruit and then develop. Bricolov is a

1634
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: good fighter, and and Jean do. It's just kind of funny.

1635
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: Both Jean and Jesus Pinato got good stoppages based off

1636
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: of straits and then those check hooks are the the

1637
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: I should say, the hook that comes behind it. Both

1638
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: of them did it off the exact same kind of

1639
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 2: not full setup but execution anyway, and great finishing instincts.

1640
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: Great shot that he landed. Uh, and then you know

1641
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: they had that awesome face off between them. Yes, I'm

1642
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 2: pumped for that fight. And when they when they locked.

1643
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 3: Ho Gene after the Ko just kind of stood over

1644
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: the guy and screamed.

1645
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, well he filed it on short notice,

1646
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: like he was not supposed to be in this tournament

1647
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 2: to begin with, and now he's fucking in the semis

1648
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: against Jason Jackson, Like this is working out perfectly.

1649
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: A good development. Now they did have they were supposed

1650
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: to have twenty twenty four Walter Wight Tournament finalist Magomed

1651
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 3: you You Malatov in this, but he missed weight by

1652
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: two point six pounds on Wednesday, they pulled him from

1653
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: the tournament. Joseph Luciano got the replacement spot. Adam Storley

1654
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: kind of Russell fed him over three rounds to advance.

1655
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: But look in that Colemane event, the twenty twenty three

1656
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 3: PFL featherweight champion Jesus Pinato came in there against a

1657
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: guy and we know very well from Bellator in respect

1658
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 3: Adam Borich. Dude, he put it on him. And this

1659
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: was Panato coming back after a year and a half

1660
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 3: off and he needed less than four minutes to brutalize Borich.

1661
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: I was impressed with that performance.

1662
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I was absolutely impressed with that performance. Adam Borich

1663
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: is a very very good fighter, and he got he

1664
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: got kind of worked by Hazes, dude, Hayeses. Pinato fights

1665
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: with fucking attitude. He marches down guys and not not

1666
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: in like a super reckless way, but certainly an aggressive way.

1667
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: And he also was going for that straight hook, straight hook.

1668
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: He would actually go hook, straight hook, and they actually

1669
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: was the third of those that ended up landing in

1670
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: those combinations. And do what I love about this, what

1671
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: I freaking love about this is this is going to

1672
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: be the rubber match with Gabriel Braga. So Braga beat

1673
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: him by split the first time, then they rematched and

1674
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: then he wiped the floor with Braga. I think he

1675
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: stopped him in the second or the third three final

1676
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: by the way, Yes exactly, And so now they're going

1677
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: to meet again in the rubber match, and do they

1678
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: They also had a super fiery, awesome face off. Dude,

1679
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: These guys that want in Gene and Braca to an

1680
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 2: extent too, but certainly in this case of a Hazes Pinato. Dude,

1681
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: these guys fight with attitude, they fight with personality, like

1682
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: what they what this is kind of what PFL needs.

1683
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: They need rivalries, they need bigger than you know they need.

1684
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: They need guys who have memorable, action friendly styles, and

1685
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 2: you know they need memorable personalities and identities too, and

1686
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: that's I think the part of the media strategy that's missing.

1687
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: But in terms of like getting I'll say this, in

1688
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: terms of getting favorable results to set up interesting semis

1689
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 2: and finals, if you're the PFL this morning, you have

1690
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: to be very happy with how all of that turned out,

1691
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 2: especially since some of this was on last minute notice.

1692
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 3: For guys like John, yeah, please don't remove parts of

1693
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 3: your ribcage and start blowing yourself. But you did well

1694
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 3: right there. And Gabriel Braga on that preliminary card had

1695
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 3: a first round submission net crank of Federick Duprat.

1696
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: So he also on that fight, Braga nearly got submitted

1697
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: with a guillotine choke and had to like gut that

1698
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: one out, and then as soon as he did, he

1699
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: was able to reverse position, get the back and and

1700
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 2: close the show. So a good gut check performance by

1701
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: him too, if I do say so myself.

1702
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 3: And in the opener of that main card, Luke, that

1703
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: was a pretty gnarly fight Jeremy Kennedy, the Belatoor veteran

1704
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: against Mavlid kaibu Laiev, and it would become a split

1705
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: decision twenty nine to twenty eight. In either way. Kennedy

1706
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 3: looked like they had they had stolen his best girl. Afterwards,

1707
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: he was incredulous after that decision. Do you think the

1708
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: judges got it right?

1709
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 2: Umm?

1710
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 3: I kind of like the elbows and the striking of

1711
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: Kennedy better. But it was a good back and forth.

1712
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: I thought Hablaiyev was I'll say this. When the fight

1713
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: was over, I was like, I think Hobalaiev is likely

1714
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: to take it based on what the judges prefer. But

1715
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't think Kennedy is crazy to say that the

1716
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: he did more meaningful work between them. Does that make sense?

1717
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, dude, I know I keep hitting this point,

1718
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: but I just wish they combined the rosters and put

1719
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 3: everybody in the tournament and created champions at the end

1720
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: of it, because I want to see Pitbull in here.

1721
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: I want to see yarsov Amasov, who's now a free

1722
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: agent and trying to get to the UFC. I know

1723
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: there's financial considerations based on how Coker was paying them more,

1724
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 3: but like with this structure, with this presentation, now it's

1725
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 3: better put your best fighters in there. Corey Anderson should

1726
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: be in there in my opinion, more and more blah

1727
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: blah blah. Look any other matchups you cared about on.

1728
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 4: Here or no.

1729
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look up and down this one that

1730
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: we saw here. Uh, the Kiku Edy fight against Bachara

1731
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: was not very good. And then the take Young Kim

1732
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 2: against Nathan Kelly. He dropped him with a good shot

1733
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: then choked him out. That was actually pretty good. A

1734
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 2: little again, dude, nice little card by PFL, No question

1735
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: about it. They're listening. Let's see more I got to do.

1736
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 3: I do have to play a piece of sound shront

1737
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 3: O'Connell yesterday before the card, was on the Area Hajwane

1738
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 3: show to preview it and did kind of call out

1739
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 3: fans and media for being negative. Now this was before

1740
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 3: they had the card, and the card seemed to raise

1741
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 3: pfl's goodwill and profile in the MMA space. But I

1742
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: want to play this sound and get your reaction to

1743
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 3: it because I like Sean O'Connell a lot, but here's

1744
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 3: him standing up for the brand.

1745
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 10: The source of frustration for me Ariel when it comes

1746
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 10: to the way the PFL is treated in the MMA

1747
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 10: space is I know how hard people are working to

1748
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 10: try to do it right in the PFL. I see

1749
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 10: the behind the scenes stuff. I know the individuals personally

1750
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 10: were trying to make things happen and trying to, you know,

1751
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 10: jump through the right hoops and think like that. And

1752
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 10: I also know that I can go find as many

1753
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 10: loud complaints about boxing, about the UFC, about you know,

1754
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 10: rule changes in the NFL whatever from fans, and they

1755
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 10: get so disproportionately amplified those complaints when you're talking about

1756
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 10: the PFL, because you know, we're right now, we're the

1757
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 10: little brother that's trying to make a space for itself

1758
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 10: and himself herself and we're trying to carve out this

1759
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 10: niche and it's like people don't want it to happen.

1760
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 10: And it's crazy because if you love the sport of

1761
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 10: mixed martial arts, you usually want there to be more

1762
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 10: mixed martial arts and more places for fighters to go

1763
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 10: get paid. And I don't know why the fan base

1764
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 10: and the media are not championing alternative causes more. Criticize

1765
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 10: us when we need to be criticized.

1766
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 2: Criticize me.

1767
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 10: If you think I'm calling fights wrong or I say

1768
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 10: something I shouldn't have said, please do because you know,

1769
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 10: I want us to be held accountable and at a

1770
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 10: very high want us to be, you know, at a

1771
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 10: very high level and hopefully someday on par and past

1772
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 10: the industry standard that's said by the UFC. But man,

1773
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 10: it doesn't feel like in a lot of cases people

1774
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 10: are rooting for success here and I know that I am.

1775
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: Now, look if he's talking specifically at UFC fans, and

1776
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 3: this is somewhat similar to like in pro wrestling, when

1777
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 3: people are like WW only we hate everything else, we

1778
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: want it, we chare for it to lose. Then is

1779
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 3: there some of that in the fan base I'm sure,

1780
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: But as much as I really like Sean O'Connell and

1781
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 3: actually think he does a great job, I don't know

1782
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 3: if the media has been extra harsh, Like Don Davis

1783
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 3: has given us plenty of reason to be they're they're

1784
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: they're convoluted format, you know, and and the and their

1785
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: resistance to change until now has has been justified to criticize.

1786
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Yeah, I mean, I like Sean O'Connell too.

1787
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: I think he does a great job at PFL. But

1788
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: it's like, also, you're paid to like them. It's not

1789
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: like you're you know what I mean, Like I'm not

1790
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: mad at him for it, but let's not act like

1791
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm in partially cheering for PFL. You get a paycheck

1792
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 2: from him, bro, Like come on, okay, uh, But that aside,

1793
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: I do think he does a fantastic job, and I

1794
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, I think the PFL is better for having him,

1795
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 2: but you know, PFL, Like, listen for anyone from PFL

1796
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: watching see how far blaming media and the fans gets you. Like,

1797
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: what are we fucking talking about here? You know what

1798
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, like, one of the big challenges that

1799
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 2: even with Last Night and the which has been a

1800
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: problem with their product. Is like Don Davis cares more

1801
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 2: about his audience on LinkedIn than he does building a

1802
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: bond and a bridge to MMA fans. I mean, part

1803
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: of the reason why they're in a studio is because

1804
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: they can't sell fucking tickets to any kind of reasonable degree.

1805
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you can get you know, two thousand or

1806
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: if you're lucky in DC, which is where PFL is

1807
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: technically where the guys are from the leadership, you know

1808
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like if you're if you're His relationships

1809
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 2: are to investors, his relationships are the people who are

1810
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 2: raising money for him. He doesn't have a relationship to

1811
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: the fan base. And then you wonder why the fan

1812
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: base is like super aggressively against you don't have a

1813
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: relationship to them. What the fuck are you talking about?

1814
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: So that this is a silly ass argument to me,

1815
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: And more to the point, there was a lot of

1816
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 2: problems with the product. Now again we just said today

1817
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: was last night. Anyway, was a great turnaround. I thought

1818
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 2: this was okay, this is a very auspicious beginning of

1819
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 2: something they could do well. But at the same time,

1820
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: like you know, you guys can lecture media all you want,

1821
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: about how mean they are. You can lecture fans all

1822
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: you want about that's not gonna save you if you want,

1823
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: if you want to survive to the extent possible, you

1824
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: have to convince fans to like you. And if you

1825
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: want media to cover you in a favorable way, you

1826
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: have to make it worth their while. And right now,

1827
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 2: for all of the very good things that PFL is

1828
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: starting to do, they don't do any of that shit.

1829
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: So a nice long look in the mirror has already

1830
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 2: helped them. I would recommend doing a little bit.

1831
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 3: More, I know, because the point goes back to what

1832
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 3: I keep harping on, the convoluted nature. It's like you've

1833
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 3: got Paul Hughes, AJ McKee, these type of guys. I

1834
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 3: feel like they should be featured in everything that you do.

1835
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do tournaments, if that's what you feel

1836
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 3: is your best way, then put your best talent there. So, Luke,

1837
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 3: we have one more piece from Sean, and I think

1838
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 3: it's important to hear it because I'm still not really sure,

1839
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 3: like what the winners of these tournaments get. What is

1840
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 3: their champion series? They have too many series, too many titles,

1841
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: this whole you know, English Premier League of MMA type

1842
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 3: of idea. Let's hear from Seawan and see if we

1843
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 3: can make sense of it.

1844
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: We know that it used to be like a season thing.

1845
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: You win the tournament, you become the champion.

1846
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 11: Now, with PFL absorbing Bellator, I thought Dakoda the Cheva

1847
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 11: would just be the flyway champion, Usmanner Maaga Made would

1848
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 11: just be the lightweight champion. The biggest name available would

1849
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 11: then become the champion if they're already holding some kind

1850
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 11: of title. It's a very easy transition that doesn't seem

1851
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 11: to have happened. Can you clear this up for us?

1852
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 10: Here's the way that I see it working out. Here's

1853
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 10: the way that it's been described for me. We have

1854
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 10: the World Tournament. You bring in a bunch of great

1855
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 10: fighters from all over the globe, you put them in

1856
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 10: an Olympic format, you say win and you move on

1857
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 10: to the next thing. And if you win the tournament,

1858
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 10: you're going to be the PFL World Tournament Champion. There's

1859
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 10: going to be a belt associated with that, and ostensibly,

1860
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 10: if you've proven enough through that process, you're going to

1861
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 10: move on to the PFL Champion Series Fights, which is

1862
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 10: where you will find to go to ditch of a

1863
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 10: living now, which is where you're going to find Usmanner

1864
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 10: Magamedev living now. And so if you win the twenty

1865
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 10: twenty five Lightweight World Tournament, the dubious honor that you

1866
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 10: get after that is you got to go and you

1867
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 10: got to fight somebody like Usmann and Magamede or maybe

1868
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 10: Paul Hughes can wrest that belt away from him when

1869
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 10: they rematch one another. But this is going to be

1870
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 10: the world tournament, and my understanding is going to be

1871
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 10: something that builds you into being the number one contender

1872
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 10: for the chanceampion the series belts.

1873
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Look, it felt like he didn't really fully get it either,

1874
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 3: And I went on their website trying not to be

1875
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: a hater. There's no champions listed, Like I feel like

1876
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 3: that's a big fail. We should know right away because

1877
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 3: I want them. Like I'm not cheering against them. Am

1878
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 3: I cheering against Don Davis after he claims that they're

1879
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 3: already you know, one A competing with UFC. Yeah, you

1880
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: can't say stuff like that. I'm cheering against the format,

1881
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: but I want to know who their best fighters are,

1882
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 3: know when they're fighting next, and you know, I guess

1883
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 3: this tournament will inevitably produce that. But we don't even

1884
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: know is Usman the bellachor champion or the PFL champion.

1885
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 3: And the fact that fans and media don't know this

1886
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 3: that's holding them back more than anything.

1887
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I don't have much to add. I

1888
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 2: think that's a great, great point that you're making. I

1889
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: completely co sign once again. They're learning this lesson slowly,

1890
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 2: but less is more, less is more. I know that

1891
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: they feel like they need to differentiate. There are ways

1892
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: to differentiate where you can add a little bit of spice,

1893
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of heat, a little bit of a twist.

1894
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 2: But to your point, if I don't even know who

1895
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: your best fighters are and I don't even know which

1896
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 2: designation that they hold, what the fuck are we doing? Guys?

1897
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 4: Uh? You know?

1898
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: All right?

1899
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 3: And we got a tweet here from Patty Mix yesterday

1900
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 3: which says, and you can argue, he might be, you know,

1901
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 3: one of the three best fighters in their organization, coming

1902
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 3: off the longest layoff of my career, been working harder

1903
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 3: than ever to perform when given the chance, I just

1904
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 3: want to compete. Exclamation point. It shouldn't be unknown to

1905
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 3: him when he's coming back who he's fighting and what

1906
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 3: the stakes and circumstances, and.

1907
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 2: You could say, oh, well, you could have had Patchy

1908
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 2: Micks fight in the main event last night, right, spice

1909
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 2: it up a little bit. But then they have they're

1910
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: doing a bellator or a bell tour, they're doing a

1911
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 2: bantamweight tourney, and they don't have the available guys, so

1912
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: now he's unavailable, and now we're back to the same

1913
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 2: or the contenders are unavailable, so you're back to the

1914
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: same problem. This is what I mean, guys. Less is

1915
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: more focused, streamline, promote and create stars. That's what the

1916
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: UFC is not hardly trying that much. Big opportunity for you.

1917
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 8: I know.

1918
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: The time is now. UFC is making us dislike them

1919
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,560
Speaker 3: on so many levels lately. The opening is there to

1920
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 3: do something easy, simple, cool, and you'll get our attention.

1921
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Dude. All right, these fans are complaining that they're not

1922
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 2: prioritized by by the UFC. If your PFL, I know

1923
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: you guys, love investors, I know you love Excel spreadsheets,

1924
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: I know you love PowerPoint. Probably a lot of canvas

1925
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: subscriptions in that PFL office. But I've got news for you.

1926
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 2: The path to sustainability is creating a relationship to the fans.

1927
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: You got to fix that first.

1928
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 4: There.

1929
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 3: It is good advice right there. But congratulations, PFL, just

1930
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 3: the same on a good night.

1931
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Cortavius Romius missed weight.

1932
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Speaker 3: So I was just going to bring that up on

1933
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 3: breaking news. Uh he missed Wait for that Bannam weight

1934
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: about against Chang Holy who has not weighed in yet.

1935
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 3: Romeias came in at one thirty nine point five. So

1936
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 3: that's a substantial miss right there.

1937
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Speaker 2: We'll see fantastic there.

1938
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Speaker 3: It is all right, Luke. I'm wondering though, given that

1939
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1940
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1947
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01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: Before we get to topic five, I just wanted to

1979
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 3: pick your brain very quickly on two things. One that's cgi.

1980
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,919
Speaker 3: Two about that was announced between Craig Jones and Gable Steveson.

1981
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if that was a joke. That's real, right,

1982
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 3: that's really happened.

1983
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 2: I am told that is real.

1984
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: Do you like that? That's kind of interesting to me.

1985
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: Gable Steveson is a complicated figure because, like, as an

1986
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 2: athletic prospect, you just can't be anything but excited. But

1987
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 2: he also appears to be a terrible person. So I

1988
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 2: don't really know how to answer that question. You know

1989
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1990
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 3: You don't think hanging out with John Jones and training

1991
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 3: with him makes him all right enough for that BS. Also,

1992
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 3: you know I dunked on the UFC Meta deal because

1993
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 3: it just means more zuck in our life. I did

1994
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 3: get a lot of fans pushing back and being like,

1995
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 3: you don't want the sport to advance across very popular

1996
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: you know, social media channels. Is there a potential plus

1997
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 3: here even outside of the stupid ratings debate? And now

1998
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: Meta AI is going to fix our ratings issues even

1999
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 3: though no one actually knows the journalists that there are

2000
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 3: all no name guys who aren't really employed who actually

2001
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 3: do these rankings and seem to be forced to do

2002
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,560
Speaker 3: them under the UFC's rules, which keeps Kamara Usman on

2003
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 3: the top five at welterweight. Is there any pluses that

2004
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 3: you see coming out of this or is this just

2005
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 3: another way that Aria Manuel get rich?

2006
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I just can't believe how gullible people are,

2007
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: Like they think this is like a real serious, genuine

2008
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: thing rather than a business entanglement to receive favorable treatment

2009
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 2: from our government. I know, I know people don't want

2010
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 2: to hear this, but it really like you just have

2011
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: to be naive to think that this is Like they

2012
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 2: were sitting around and they were thinking of ways in

2013
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 2: which they wanted to enhance the fan experience, and they thought,

2014
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: you know what, let's get a company that is facing

2015
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: antitrust pressures that we just put or Dana White was

2016
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: just put on the board of it for like really

2017
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 2: no one for reasons, like really no one even understands

2018
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 2: because that itself doesn't make sense. But like I clearly

2019
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 2: it is a play to entangle their business as a

2020
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: long term protection effort against you know, verious or I

2021
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 2: should say too, you know, you can't stop obviously some

2022
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 2: of these efforts, but to hedge their bets is probably

2023
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: the best way to put it about government interference. I mean,

2024
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: it's not to say that there's like nothing that was proposed.

2025
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 2: You know, those ray band glasses and seeing that kind

2026
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 2: of stuff as like fighters walk out, it's kind of cool.

2027
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 2: I suppose there's some different technology that's available in terms

2028
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: of like getting a three sixty view of the cage

2029
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 2: if they end up going that direction. The AI rankings part,

2030
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,839
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say. That's a real change.

2031
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 2: It remains to be seen if that's any good. But

2032
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: I would just caution everyone, like, what does Meta produce

2033
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: that's very good? They bought Instagram, That's not a thing

2034
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 2: that they ever developed on their own. They bought WhatsApp,

2035
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 2: That's not a thing that they developed on their own.

2036
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 2: The metaverse is a complete and total flop in every

2037
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 2: possible way. Those ray band glasses are kind of cool,

2038
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 2: but a limited technological influence over everything. It's a very

2039
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: very big company, in part because they've been able to

2040
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 2: avoid regulatory scrutiny. This is just a way to enmesh

2041
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: their businesses as a protection. Like, Oh, they're gonna have

2042
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: in fan activation on threads, well, shiver me fucking timbers. Wow,

2043
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 2: what a vast improvement to the fan experience. You want

2044
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 2: to improve the fan experience, pay the fighters enough that

2045
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 2: that you can make the big fights, and you can

2046
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 2: recruit high level athletes to want to come participate and

2047
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 2: to make the I mean, there's ways to make the

2048
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 2: fan experience better that have nothing to do with Mark

2049
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg's stupid ass glasses. That is such a limited window

2050
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 2: into things, So do I take it seriously? Let me

2051
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: be as clear as I possibly can be. No, because

2052
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:32,919
Speaker 2: I'm not gullible.

2053
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Thanks well, wow, well said final piece. Luke. I got

2054
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 3: an email, like a press email today that had quotes

2055
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 3: from Eric Bischoff, the former WCW wrestling head, about some

2056
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: interview he gave. He's claiming he heard that Vince McMahon

2057
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 3: is currently talking with BKFC and if people don't know

2058
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 3: the disgrace Vince McMahon, who still is gonna still has

2059
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 3: trial coming up in that Janelle Grant case. He has

2060
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 3: been rumored to be putting a lot the money together

2061
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 3: and looking at first there was talk of him doing

2062
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 3: something in pro wrestling on Fox and doing something in

2063
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,560
Speaker 3: this space. Could you imagine if BKFC has Connor and

2064
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 3: Vince in the bullpen working for them, is there anything

2065
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 3: to that? Is this the weirdest news you ever heard?

2066
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Who are they missing?

2067
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 9: Mother?

2068
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 2: Teresa? I mean, that's really.

2069
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 3: But let's get war machine up with a bullpen. But like, seriously,

2070
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 3: like what the hell is that, Luke?

2071
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 2: I mean to you know, to bkfc's credit, they're probably

2072
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,839
Speaker 2: spending a lot of money. They probably need an investor.

2073
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 2: Vince might like that. You know, it is a it

2074
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 2: is a BKFC is a real alternative for MMA fans,

2075
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: so to speak, in terms of, you know, another combat

2076
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 2: sport that is like MMA adjacent but not MMA. So

2077
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, there's it's not together, it's not it's not

2078
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 2: crazy to think that that would could be a partnership

2079
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 2: that works. But yeah, I don't know.

2080
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the female fighters should wear hairnuts from here

2081
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 3: on out. All right, look there you go. Hey, let's

2082
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 3: get into topic number five. It is the weekend boxing

2083
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 3: preview and all there's no Slam Dunk pay per view

2084
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 3: or you know, super fight this weekend. There are four

2085
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 3: boxing cards of note, from Tim Zu's comeback to Janebec's

2086
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 3: Kazakhstan homecoming, to US Olympian Richard Torres Junior getting his

2087
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 3: first top rank main event, and oh how about that

2088
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 3: UK heavyweight clash between Joe Joyce and Philip Ergovich. Luke,

2089
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 3: is there a fighter storyline of the above that tickles

2090
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 3: your fancy the most this weekend in terms of you caring? Uh?

2091
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a few of these that I care about.

2092
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 2: So let's okay, I don't care about all of them.

2093
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 2: The Torres fight against Vanello or Vnao, I'm not sure

2094
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 2: how you pronounce it, is not interesting to me at all.

2095
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 2: Can I be honest about that? I don't care. I

2096
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 2: don't care even a little bit about that one. So

2097
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 2: although it's competitive, reasonably speaking, nor do I care about

2098
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 2: the Jannebec fight, and not that much. Right However, the

2099
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 2: first two you listed are quite interesting. Tim Zu is

2100
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: taken on Joey Spencer. Timzu was a big acquisition for PBC,

2101
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 2: and I think still has a possibility of turning this around.

2102
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 2: But holy shit, it has not gone according to plan

2103
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 2: at all. So you could be forgiving obviously with the

2104
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 2: loss to Fundora because he had the cut on the

2105
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 2: top of his head. It was an absolute blood bath,

2106
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 2: but that was surprising for PBC and certainly unwelcome. But

2107
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: that really wasn't the problem. The problem was what was

2108
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 2: the guy's name, RTAZALIEVALI Yeah, yeah, Then he loses badly

2109
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 2: to Bakra Mrdazaliev in a fight that was supposed to

2110
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 2: be a walkover for the guy, and now you just

2111
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 2: don't even know where he is now. Granted, Keith Thurman

2112
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 2: kind of won, and so they're saying for PBC, they're

2113
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 2: building a star in that direction, and you know, God

2114
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 2: only knows what could happen there. But they're just trying

2115
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 2: to rehabilitate this guy. Joey Spencer is not a great fighter,

2116
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 2: but he's a decent fighter. So this is a fight

2117
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: that tim Zus should win. It's back in Australia. And

2118
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 2: by the way, Joey Spencer was kind of objecting because

2119
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: all three judges are going to be Australian, which I'm

2120
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: told unless it's like a world title fight, that's not

2121
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 2: necessarily uncommon. They do try to, you know, mix them up,

2122
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: like from all different geographical fix it.

2123
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 3: By the way, they didn't appear to his complaints even

2124
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 3: though said publicly don't worry, we won't need the judges

2125
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 3: in this fight. They did it all right.

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Speaker 2: So but you get my point, Like there's been a

2127
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 2: little bit of controversy about it, but Tim Zoo needs

2128
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: a win bad.

2129
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 3: So well let's stay here. Yeah, let's stay here with

2130
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 3: this fight for a second. Zoo will be a minus

2131
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 3: eight hundred favorite against Spencer, who's plus five hundred.

2132
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 4: Now.

2133
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 3: Spencer's a pretty good fighter, a former PBC prospect. He

2134
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 3: does only have one defeat, but it was a stoppage

2135
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 3: loss to Haesus Ramos Junior and a Prospect versus Prospect fight. Uh,

2136
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 3: Like Luke, it's tough. Zoo's thirty or thirty one years old,

2137
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 3: one of the two. Those are disastrous losses last year.

2138
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 3: But I do think not excuses, but everything you said

2139
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 3: is true. It's like he was on his way to

2140
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: knocking Fondora out, who, by the way, was a late

2141
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: replacement for Thurman until that cut changed it. And I

2142
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: guess you have to give credit where credit is due

2143
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 3: for Zoo for gutting it out, not asking out of

2144
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 3: that fight, and nearly winning it. He only lost by

2145
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 3: split decision. But the Murdozalia fight, whether his father being

2146
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 3: ringside for the first time since his pro debut, as

2147
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 3: they fix, there's a strange relationship mattered or not. Dude,

2148
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 3: he walked into the same punch over and over again,

2149
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 3: with no defense, no head movement. So while that was

2150
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 3: awful and bad, I think it's fixable because don't forget

2151
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 3: when Tim Zuo made his US debut on Showtime against

2152
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 3: Terrell Goshe, he did the same thing. He got into

2153
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 3: what he calls terminator mode off the start and he

2154
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 3: got dropped in disciplined in the first round by Gashet.

2155
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: But finally adjusted. I do think there's an argument to

2156
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,759
Speaker 3: make that Tim throws away the game plan too quickly

2157
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 3: and just goes to war. There is a window, though,

2158
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 3: where he can turn this around, and Spencer is the

2159
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 3: type of opponent who can be tough enough if Zuo's

2160
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 3: not the same guy. I mean, look, should we have

2161
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 3: concern about the amount of punishment he took in the

2162
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 3: last year.

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01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was terrible. It's been terrible. The cut in

2164
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,719
Speaker 2: the blood I have less concerned about. But definitely against

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01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 2: Murdosaliev he got rocked. How many times did he get dropped?

2166
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: Three times?

2167
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but I think even four it was just

2168
01:43:59,320 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 3: I call that.

2169
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 2: But they had to throw the towel to stop the

2170
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: shit because it was just awful. Like, you know, Joey

2171
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: Spencer is not that kind of a puncher, so it's

2172
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 2: obviously a more manageable risk. But dude, Tims and I

2173
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 2: want to point out something too. You're like, the Fundora

2174
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 2: fight was close. You're right, but like even that was

2175
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 2: not expected to be that close because Brian Mendoza had

2176
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 2: sent Flndora crashing to the mat with one of the

2177
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: best knockouts of that previous year, and then Mendoza fought

2178
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Zoo and Zuo smoked him like or beat him easily

2179
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: with a decision win, like you know, had him beat

2180
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 2: up real bats. You're like, oh, you know, we don't

2181
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: want to play too much boxing math, but he should

2182
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 2: go in there and win and he got fucked up,

2183
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 2: you know. So this is a this is a real

2184
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 2: precarious moment for Tim Zuo.

2185
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zuo's main promoter, No Limit Boxing in Australia, will

2186
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 3: be putting on this card, but PBC will air it

2187
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 3: on prime video non pay per view of course, in

2188
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 3: primetime live in the US on Saturday nights. You can

2189
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 3: check that out. Here's Tim Zoo talking about the lessons

2190
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 3: learned against Murdozaliev And as you mentioned, Luke, it looks

2191
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 3: like he'll be fighting Keith Thurman in July if he

2192
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 3: wins on Saturday. Is it hard to see the fight again,

2193
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 3: like to look back at it.

2194
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, to a certain extent, to a certain extent. But

2195
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 12: you know what, when I when I rewatched it, Uh,

2196
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 12: there was a lot of lessons learned, and I watched

2197
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 12: it from a tactical point of view, and.

2198
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:16,759
Speaker 2: It was it was different.

2199
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 12: I got hit with a shot that I shouldn't have

2200
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 12: been hit with, you know, And I've learned my whole

2201
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 12: my whole life to defend it in a certain way

2202
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 12: and stuff like that, and.

2203
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was.

2204
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: It was.

2205
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 12: I've been here with shots, but usually I'm recovered and

2206
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 12: and and and stuff like that. But I don't know,

2207
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 12: I wasn't able to recover myself this time. I don't

2208
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 12: know what it was exactly. Could have been the rehydration

2209
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 12: stuff and stuff like that, but yeah, it was an

2210
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 12: ideal and but yeah, you live and you learn. Don't

2211
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 12: get caught with it again.

2212
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 3: And he got caught with it consistently. We have a

2213
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 3: quick face off between the two of them. We could

2214
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 3: talk over at Luke. If he loses here, it really

2215
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 3: might be over in terms of an elite level, but

2216
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 3: a little bit of a dad Bob there or no

2217
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 3: from Zoo on the right.

2218
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: He's never been exactly you know, Ronnie Coleman, All right, yeah, I.

2219
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 3: Never see workout gloves on him.

2220
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 2: You're right, oh yeah, but you know I think he

2221
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 2: should be fine.

2222
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 3: All right, there we go. That is Saturday night, PBC

2223
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 3: and no limit. Can it bring that to you? Luke?

2224
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 3: You mentioned the other fight that you will care about.

2225
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 3: It goes down Saturday afternoon on his own. So Joe

2226
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 3: Joyce who to be fair. When he was a prospect,

2227
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 3: he was like thirty five years old. But this is

2228
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 3: a man who ko Daniel Dubois and Joseph Parker until

2229
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 3: a recent run of three losses in four fights, which

2230
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 3: included two bad knockout losses to Big Bang Jiang. Now

2231
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 3: at age thirty nine, he's going to try to come

2232
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 3: back in a big fight and put it all together.

2233
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 3: Philip Ergovich is in front of him. Ergovic was previously

2234
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 3: undefeated until he got stopped by Daniel Dubois last year

2235
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,879
Speaker 3: for the vacant IBF heavy title after Usik was stripped

2236
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 3: because he chose that immediate rematch with Tyson Fury. So, Luke,

2237
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 3: here's the real question right now, brother, is Joe Joyce washed?

2238
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I didn't think so until his last fight.

2239
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:14,679
Speaker 2: I don't think he can take a punch. And here's

2240
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 2: the thing, Dubois. Remember that that win by Dubois or

2241
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Ergovic was important for two reasons. One because it was

2242
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 2: just a quality win, but the other one was like

2243
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: Ergovic was kind of putting it on him a little bit,

2244
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 2: like he was landing big punches and Dubois had to

2245
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 2: kind of take it and roll with it and then

2246
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 2: storm back a little bit later in that one, winning

2247
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: a TKO in the eighth. So that was like a

2248
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 2: very very impressive win, but make no mistake, like Ergovich was,

2249
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 2: it was handling him a little bit early, and as

2250
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 2: you mentioned, has beaten Big Bangjang and was undefeated up

2251
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 2: until that Duboi win. Hasn't fought since, so it's been

2252
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 2: a year here. He is back. But Joyce, you see,

2253
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 2: you know, you know boxing certainly better than I do.

2254
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 2: But my assessment about all of that is his ability

2255
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 2: to take a punch has been badly diminished. And Ergovich

2256
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 2: is both skilled from an amateur perspective, and then on

2257
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 2: top of it, he can punch. I mean, it's not

2258
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 2: the most devastating puncher I think in that division. That's

2259
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: not what I'm saying, but he could certainly, he can

2260
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 2: certainly cause serious problems. So I don't what are the

2261
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 2: odds I think they have him here in the Oh.

2262
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Joe Joyce plus two seventy five. The underdog

2263
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 3: minus three p seventy is Ergovic. And don't forget you

2264
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 3: mentioned Joyce's last fight. That was at ten round war

2265
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 3: with old best Derek Jesra, and he took a beating

2266
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 3: in that.

2267
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 2: One, you know exactly. So this is what I'm saying.

2268
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm surprised the odds are that close. I get that

2269
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Ergovic has been off for a while and that that

2270
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:31,839
Speaker 2: du Bois loss was surprising, but I I think Ergovich

2271
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 2: should win here. Excuse me, I think Ergovic should win here.

2272
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 2: I'll say if he loses, that would be very surprising

2273
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 2: and would be a huge redemption for Joe Joyce. But

2274
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's in the cards.

2275
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 3: Well, there's an undercard a bout on this Joyce Ergovic card,

2276
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 3: and at the press conference this week it got wild.

2277
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 3: Let's look in on this piece of business.

2278
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 2: I trust me to Amy children.

2279
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 3: Look, I get down for that, all right. I don't

2280
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 3: know you guys names.

2281
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 2: You know that's how That's how all dinners look in

2282
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 2: the BC household, right there, yes, yes.

2283
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah. So Janna Beck will bring his

2284
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 3: unified middleweight title in a Kazakh homecoming on ESPN Plus.

2285
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 3: He's a minus eleven hundred betting favorite against a fellow name,

2286
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 3: Annual Nagamus and sorry for that seizure. And as we mentioned,

2287
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 3: Richard Torres Junior, who is twelve and ozer with eleven KOs,

2288
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: has only fought fat white guys. Look, this is considered

2289
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 3: a step up. He'll be a minus two fifty favorite

2290
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,959
Speaker 3: when he headlines in Vegas against plus two hundred Guido Vanello,

2291
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 3: the Italian who has decent experience against good names.

2292
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I don't think Torres is bad, but we're still not

2293
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 2: at the stage where I'm like, you know, get excited.

2294
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 2: We're not there.

2295
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm with you. He's a South Paul. He's got a

2296
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 3: porn star mustache. He's a little bit weird, but he

2297
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 3: can think and punch a little bit. We'll find out

2298
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 3: out with the box this week Long Island. Look, you're

2299
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 3: you don't care about any of these from a betting standpoint, right, No,

2300
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 3: to be.

2301
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 2: Honest, I bro he Long Island. Luke is like the

2302
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 2: quintessential MMA fan. It's like, oh, you like combat sports, right, Nope?

2303
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 2: Just MMA fuck off? Nope.

2304
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 4: Also, like I was working all week, I wasn't really

2305
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 4: on top of the not I'm just.

2306
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 2: Giving you ship. But it's kind of funny.

2307
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 3: All right, It's time for our fans segments to close

2308
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 3: today's episode. UH morning combat at gmail dot com is

2309
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 3: your chance to reach out to Mikey and touch someone.

2310
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 3: Just be nice with it. Uh So full disclosure here.

2311
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 3: Mikey said, we only had three fan subs this week

2312
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 3: and they were all nine to eleven related, so uh

2313
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 3: he made the judgment call to uh to not to

2314
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:47,679
Speaker 3: not run those this week?

2315
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 2: Are fans hitting you up and being like, hey, can

2316
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 2: you show us the fan subs now that you couldn't

2317
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 2: show on MK And I want to be as clear

2318
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 2: as I possibly can. They'll never see the light of day, Okay,

2319
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 2: not not from us anyway.

2320
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless they put them on that Reddit page. But

2321
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 3: that's on them all right, So we won't have fan subs,

2322
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 3: but please, if you care, put them in for next week.

2323
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 3: We do have, though, a few dead wrongs where we

2324
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 3: take the stand because not everything we say as well

2325
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 3: reached shirts are even accurate. Sometimes we're just shitting out

2326
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 3: of our mouth. But you better come original, you better

2327
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 3: have time stamps. This one's called dead wrong, dead wrong.

2328
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 3: Do we know who's voice that is?

2329
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 5: Is that?

2330
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: Keev?

2331
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 4: No?

2332
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 2: I think it's like AI.

2333
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 3: I don't even know AI voice? All right? Here we

2334
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 3: go hey, our first dead wrong is from Marcus. What's up,

2335
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 3: Douncle Berry Finn and Donk Sawyer. I'm a have you

2336
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 3: whitewashed mf ors paint and fences all day with this one.

2337
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 3: At thirty eight minutes and fifty one seconds of last

2338
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,719
Speaker 3: week's episode, y'all devoted a whole ass segment to sharing

2339
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 3: your personal top five pound for pound welterweight rankings. Let

2340
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 3: me say that again, pound for pound welterweight rankings. Maybe

2341
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 3: it's the booze or maybe it's the green, but y'all

2342
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 3: got to be some shit think in thinking that you

2343
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 3: can have a pound for pound ranking list of fighters

2344
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 3: in the same damn weight class. More egregious than this

2345
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 3: verbal misstep was having to listen to BC's completely asinine

2346
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 3: take on Ian Maschado Gangbang go ahead and collect your

2347
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 3: l on the way to painting this fence with love

2348
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 3: from the Midwest. It's Marcus Luke. I'd love to dunk

2349
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 3: back on Marcus, but he did. He came original, I mean.

2350
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,600
Speaker 2: He brought it also. Mark Twain, big lover of the

2351
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 2: N word. It turned out in high school I learned

2352
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:36,440
Speaker 2: that wow.

2353
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 3: So Luke, technically it was wrong for me to say

2354
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 3: pound for pound because they are all the same.

2355
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 2: You were using pound for pound as like you know

2356
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 2: all time, you know, all time best welterweights.

2357
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 3: Right, No, I said, let's rank our welterweights in a

2358
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 3: pound for pound ranking, because I was using essentially the

2359
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 3: criteria that I believe is most important in pound for

2360
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 3: pound rankings, which is ultimately like what is their stock

2361
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 3: right now? And would they beat each other head to head?

2362
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 3: And yes, it made sense to me, but yes, technically, Marcus,

2363
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 3: I will take that l. There we go. Number two

2364
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 3: comes to us from Gabriel. Hey, donks mild dead wrong

2365
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 3: for LT on his Espanol this Monday. For mk, LT

2366
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 3: was half right, and that some sounds in Spanish are

2367
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 3: not fully enunciated and natural speech, so sometimes the G

2368
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 3: sound is so soft that when spoken, it disappears because

2369
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 3: of that, though, BC is actually fire to a pronounced

2370
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,600
Speaker 3: squadalajara as wada lajara, because in natural speech that is

2371
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 3: essentially how the word sounds. You can enunciate the G.

2372
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 3: But how BC said, it is actually pretty natural and

2373
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 3: didn't really need to be corrected. Not sure if that's

2374
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 3: specifically a Mexican thing, maybe a regional dialect. Some other

2375
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 3: words with the soft g are agua and gooey.

2376
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 2: Well, also like just you know, so it's so okay.

2377
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 2: So I'm learning this so like it g on what

2378
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: it comes before. We'll have different pronunciations. Obviously, it can

2379
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 2: be like ge would be heraldo, right, So it just

2380
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: depends on what's in front of it. But like guacamole,

2381
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,839
Speaker 2: I've just never heard anybody say wuaca moley.

2382
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

2383
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,799
Speaker 3: Well, I have, but not gringos, but real people they say. Unfortunately,

2384
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 3: I'm around Latin.

2385
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,639
Speaker 2: I've been around Spanish speakers every day in my life.

2386
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 2: Not one of them says wuaca mole. Motherfucker.

2387
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 3: You're going to do with the with the true difference

2388
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 3: between pronunciation between different Spanish speaking countries.

2389
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, that's what I mentioned to you before. They'll

2390
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 2: say certain things so softly that you're like even saying it.

2391
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 3: You know, I was doing it Mexico style about a

2392
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 3: Mexican city, showing respect for the fine Mexican.

2393
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: People meet in the middle on this one.

2394
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, hold on, I gotta interrupt you too.

2395
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying when they teach it, because I've taken

2396
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: classes on this when they teach it, they don't teach

2397
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: it wuaca mole or Guadaalajara. They may say it that way,

2398
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 2: but they teach it guacamole Guadalajara.

2399
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 3: Gabriel goes on to say, unfortunately for LT clapping latina

2400
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 3: cheeks does not making fluent in Spanish.

2401
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 2: Wow, I've never claimed to be good at Spanish. Never

2402
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 2: never never.

2403
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 3: All jokes aside, MK all day love y'all at Gabriel

2404
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 3: and his source is that he is a full blooded

2405
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 3: Mexican with roots Injuadalajara. So there you go, all right,

2406
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 3: Luke's took a half l a half.

2407
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 2: Hell, I'll tell I'll take that half hel, I'll take.

2408
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 3: It all right. Daz is ready to uh what, Luke, Daz.

2409
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 2: Back up on that ass and give these motherfuckers a

2410
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 2: blasphem the.

2411
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 3: Past aloha donks. In light of the disagreement on the

2412
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 3: pronunciation of Sa saka quebara around an hour and thirteen minutes,

2413
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 3: and as an ethnically Japanese person, Daz says, I would

2414
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 3: like to weigh in. In Japanese general, generally, all syllables

2415
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 3: are given the same level of emphasis, meaning syllables are

2416
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 3: not emphasized the same way as they are in English. Thus,

2417
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 3: Luke was more correct wow in his pronunciation of Sokka

2418
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 3: quibara because he did it with less syllablic emphasis. BT's

2419
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 3: preferential pronunciation of Sokka kibara places too much on certain

2420
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 3: syllables and broke the pronunciation up in an awkward way.

2421
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 3: In this case, LT is more right and BC is incorrect.

2422
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if this is too pedanic. I figured if

2423
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 3: we are discussing the pronunciation of wadalajara, then we can

2424
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 3: try to get these Japanese names pronounced correctly as well. Mahalo,

2425
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 3: it's Dat's all right. Well, I respect what Das is saying,

2426
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 3: and I respect the root of what he's saying, being

2427
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 3: that he is of the Japanese persuasion there and knows

2428
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 3: the pronunciations. I have to say, though, what I forgot

2429
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 3: to say, and I should have said it during that

2430
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 3: episode was I hosted that Ryan Garcia press conference in December,

2431
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 3: of which Saki Kabara was there, and I asked his

2432
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 3: very well known translator, slash matchmaker guy from back in

2433
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 3: the Pride days, who was kind of representing him there,

2434
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 3: because Saki Kabar's English is not wrong, and that's how

2435
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 3: they told me to say it. Sak or guess Saka Kabara.

2436
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 3: All I was saying to you is there's no chance

2437
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 3: in hell it's Sakaki. There's no chance. There's not even

2438
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 3: a remote chance.

2439
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like neither of us were all

2440
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 2: that close, but not that far either. But I didn't

2441
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 2: realize that they didn't have like so for example, as

2442
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: you know in Spanish, like if you see an accent,

2443
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 2: that's where you put the emphasis. I didn't realize that Japanese.

2444
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, jobs is very different language than Spanish,

2445
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 2: but I didn't know that they did or didn't have

2446
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: those kinds of emphasis points on their on their words.

2447
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure I get I was wrong in

2448
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 3: a great degree. I'm always wrong. On speaking Luke, I

2449
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 3: can barely speak English on this show. I get shopped

2450
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 3: like a lo out of nowhere. Sometimes our last dead

2451
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 3: wrong comes to us from Paul. He says, hello from Belfast,

2452
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 3: you washed Pos's it's a dead wrong of sorts from

2453
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 3: Luke and BC. When discussing the best fights to watch

2454
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 3: in WEC history, how about the absolute banger of Leonard

2455
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 3: Garcia versus Chan Sung Jung.

2456
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 2: Oh jesus, how did we miss that fun?

2457
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 3: We did? We screwed up the very fight that earned

2458
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 3: him the nickname the Korean Zombie. Okay, maybe not a

2459
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 3: dead wrong, but certainly deserves to mention as an absolutely

2460
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 3: insane fight in which Garcia got the nod, only for

2461
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 3: the Zombie to get revenge in the UFC via twister,

2462
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 3: Paul loves our work. He's a Day one, donk. He's

2463
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 3: not a Jan sixer. He's from Belfast, Northern Ireland.

2464
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 2: All right, I'll take that out, especially that one I'll

2465
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 2: take because how the fuck did we omit that? That

2466
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 2: is egregious?

2467
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 3: That was egregious right there. Great moments in uh pre

2468
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 3: other mma promotional history which the UFC consistently bought out

2469
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 3: or folded, But yeah, that was WEC had consistent bangers.

2470
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 3: Dude in that small cage. Shout out to Reid Harris

2471
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 3: back in the day, great matchmaker, right yeah, I.

2472
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 2: Mean again, they had divisions that went, you know, above

2473
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 2: one seventy or above fifty five and the under the

2474
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 2: UFC brought some of those guys over and folded him.

2475
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 2: But obviously the magic was that they had all the

2476
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 2: guys fifty five and below, and this is what I

2477
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 2: mean about being you know, less's MOREBC they put a

2478
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 2: blue cage and they went to different weight classes, but

2479
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 2: it was just MMA at that point. They didn't try

2480
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 2: and do like we're gonna have a tournament season format

2481
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 2: with points like what the stop stop stop? And now

2482
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 2: obviously it's harder now that you know there's less innovation

2483
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 2: that's possible. But that WEC worked for a reason. It

2484
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 2: was not accidental, you know.

2485
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, all right, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com.

2486
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 3: Hit us with fan subs, hit us with dead wrongs,

2487
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 3: reach out to the show, complain, show your ball bag

2488
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 3: to Mikey, whatever, except for that last part. Whatever you

2489
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 3: gotta do there it is. That's our show. By the way,

2490
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 3: for today, we will be back a remote episode Monday,

2491
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 3: eleven am Eastern at Morning Combat on YouTube, and we'll

2492
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 3: be back in studio Wednesday. For of course, that UFC

2493
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 3: three fourteen pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo, the

2494
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 3: tequila that invented tequila. Yeah, baby, yeah, Luke, fantastic show.

2495
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: You got any great weekend plans you want to share?

2496
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm just gonna hang out with the fam. I'm

2497
01:59:56,360 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 2: not gonna do a watch along for that. I'm not

2498
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 2: gonna insult it because people get very sensitive about it.

2499
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna know if I did a watch along,

2500
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 2: no one would watch along, you know what I'm saying.

2501
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 2: So I gotta wait for it. I gotta wait, but

2502
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 2: but I have to say this PC. We're not far

2503
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 2: from UFC three fourteen now, pretty pretty close. Very excited

2504
02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 2: about that.

2505
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 3: That on the gums. Check out that appearance I made

2506
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 3: by the way on Submission Radio with Jed Mischue and

2507
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 3: Dennis Big Dennis fan over here. Luke, what a great guy, right.

2508
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 2: Dennis is awesome. I did an hour long UFC three

2509
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 2: fourteen preview with him yesterday, So that'll be out fasting job.

2510
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 3: That guy will get up at that ass crack of

2511
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 3: dawn to meet US Americans on our own time. So

2512
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 3: I got a lot of respect for that guy. For

2513
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 3: Long Island, Luke, Nocita, Luke, you got you got anything else?

2514
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 2: Probably not join me for the watch a long tomorrow,

2515
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 2: Luke won't be live.

2516
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 4: I'll be there, guys, main card, join me for that.

2517
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 3: Appreciate you all right, Plenty of long hits to be

2518
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 3: had between.

2519
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,520
Speaker 2: He showed me what he's going to be enjoying after

2520
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 2: today's program. Let's just say TSA needs to check his bags,

2521
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

2522
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 3: Hey, Tsa, we got some THC coming in. Indeed, all right,

2523
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 3: here we go.

2524
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 2: If you're sitting next to Long Island Luke on his

2525
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 2: flight home, prepare to get a contact high because that's

2526
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 2: what's coming.

2527
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 8: You know.

2528
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 3: Hell yeah for Long Island Luke regular Luke, I am

2529
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 3: your boy. BC. Take care of yourselves. We love you,

2530
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 3: Thank you for supporting. Be nice to each other, have

2531
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 3: a great weekend, enjoy the fights.

2532
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 1: We are out of here.

2533
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, baby,