Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
Speaker 1: I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
Speaker 1: get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
Speaker 1: casting director that is powerful. And now it's time for
Speaker 1: meditation of the day. I realize that I don't have
Speaker 1: to be perfect. All I have to do is show
Speaker 1: up and enjoy the messy, imperfection and beautiful journey of
Speaker 1: my life. Kerrie Washington. Let me tell you something about life.
Speaker 1: As you evolve and you get I say wiser, some
Speaker 1: people say older. But as you evolve in this world,
Speaker 1: you learn a lot of things. And one of the
Speaker 1: things you learn is that nobody cares. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, nobody cares. Everybody has their own life
Speaker 1: to live their own business that they mind, and so
Speaker 1: should you. Life is not perfect and we should not
Speaker 1: be striving for perfection. We should be striving to be
Speaker 1: the best that we can be. And if that's enough
Speaker 1: for us, then that's enough. We don't need to live
Speaker 1: up to anybody else's standards, anybody's expectations of us. We
Speaker 1: live for the expectations of ourselves. We celebrate ourselves every day,
Speaker 1: whether it's with the Starbucks mocha or it's just sitting
Speaker 1: on a park bench admiring the trees and the grass
Speaker 1: and the beautiful flowers around you. Celebrate your life, Celebrate
Speaker 1: your successes, Celebrate your failures because your failures continue to
Speaker 1: motivate you into success. The most important thing is to
Speaker 1: understand there's no pressure to be, do or have anything
Speaker 1: in this world. Just be the best that you can be.
Speaker 1: Before we get started, I'd like to remind everyone to
Speaker 1: look out for my new show, Inside the black Box.
Speaker 1: I'll be co hosting with the great Joe Morton. We'll
Speaker 1: be on Crackle Network real soon. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore.
Speaker 1: I just need a second, because you've got to breathe
Speaker 1: in people that you love. You got to breathe them in, Okay,
Speaker 1: because they are the energy source, they are the motivation inspiration. Still,
Speaker 1: I say this, when you meet people in this industry
Speaker 1: that create an energy within you that you want to
Speaker 1: be better, that you want to be of service, that
Speaker 1: you love what you do. You don't go to work,
Speaker 1: you go to fun. When you surround yourself around people
Speaker 1: like that and energy, keep those people close. And I
Speaker 1: have to say, I was saying the other day to
Speaker 1: a producer, how Twinkie so boldly boldly walked into my
Speaker 1: office and was like, like, I want to be your assistant.
Speaker 1: And I didn't ask her for a resume reference. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay because of the way she walked in,
Speaker 1: So I was like I had to know her. Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, when I tell you I love this woman
Speaker 1: and her family. I've been in her life for so long,
Speaker 1: She's been a by for so long. She is Oh
Speaker 1: my god as a casting director, one of the most phenomenal,
Speaker 1: legendary casting directors that exist in this casting in this
Speaker 1: entertainment business, producer, director, award winning director of a piece
Speaker 1: called The Counter. If you have not seen it, we'll
Speaker 1: ask her where we can see it. And she is
Speaker 1: a writer, author of plethora of books, and that's why
Speaker 1: I wanted her on here today to talk about her
Speaker 1: current book, Let's Link. But we're going to cover all
Speaker 1: of it. I need you to surround my sister Fred
Speaker 1: with love, light and hugs. Ladies and gentlemen, please put
Speaker 1: your hands together for Tracy Twinkie birds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. It sprinkled,
Speaker 2: Come on, sprinkle sprinkle me. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I was sitting here and listening to you, and I
Speaker 2: was like, she must be talking about herself, because that's
Speaker 2: how I feel the presence, that's how I feel. I'm like,
Speaker 2: she's talking about herself because you make me better, you.
Speaker 1: Make me want to be better.
Speaker 2: You were the person that said, yes, come when I
Speaker 2: was scared to death on that phone and my knees
Speaker 2: were knocking, and I saw that that article that in
Speaker 2: the in the newspaper, and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call this number and see what she needs help.
Speaker 1: And that's how she showed up. That's that's how she
Speaker 1: showed up. And that's why she was laughing. Y'all can't
Speaker 1: see it, but that's why she was laughing because she
Speaker 1: didn't show up like that. The confidence and looted from
Speaker 1: this woman, I say, I have to have her come on.
Speaker 1: And your career is an example of that. So Twinkie
Speaker 1: Bird tell us where, well we know New Jersey.
Speaker 2: We don't where it all began with you. It all
Speaker 2: began with you.
Speaker 1: That's where it all begans, we could tell. So after
Speaker 1: New Jersey Drive, Yes.
Speaker 2: After New Jersey Drive and just another Girl on the Irt, Yes,
Speaker 2: after that, I started casting music videos. And that was
Speaker 2: in the what early that was in the nineties nineties.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, there were people on this call that probably
Speaker 2: weren't even born then, but yes, that was. That was
Speaker 2: in the nineties, and that was my film school. That
Speaker 2: was a lot of a lot of film schools for
Speaker 2: a lot of people. A lot of us got our
Speaker 2: walkie talkie talk We got our set experience, We received
Speaker 2: our prep experience, we received all of the experiences, the
Speaker 2: post experience. I received all of those experiences through those
Speaker 2: amazing days of when music videos were short films to
Speaker 2: music and all of those filmmakers, all of us came
Speaker 2: together black brown and created that we would either recreate
Speaker 2: a film in music video form or we created a
Speaker 2: short film in music video form. We loved on each
Speaker 2: other in that way. You got the slow mo of
Speaker 2: the chocolate brother from the lips on up to his
Speaker 2: hairline and our brows, and you got the slow mo
Speaker 2: of the chocolate sisters walking because we didn't have that.
Speaker 2: We didn't have slow motion of black and brown people
Speaker 2: melanated in slow motion just moving towards and skin just
Speaker 2: shining and gleaming, and shade butter and cocoa butter just
Speaker 2: you could smell it through the TV. And so we
Speaker 2: loved up on each other in music video in that way.
Speaker 2: And then we were on set with each other to
Speaker 2: learn how to work with each other, how to separate,
Speaker 2: how to co create and to create with each other
Speaker 2: East Coast, West Coast, West Coast directors coming to the
Speaker 2: East coast, East Coast directors going to the West coast.
Speaker 2: The travel that was happening, the shots that were stolen
Speaker 2: by Hollywood, like you know, I am, the shots that
Speaker 2: were stolen. Some say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Speaker 2: But you could find some money flattery with some deals
Speaker 2: and reiduals and residual yes, so flatter us that way.
Speaker 2: Stop stealing the shots. But that's what was happening during
Speaker 2: that time. That's where I came up. I came up
Speaker 2: through I was an advertising that was my day job,
Speaker 2: and at night and on the weekends advertising and Essence magazine. Yes,
Speaker 2: and at night and on the weekends I was doing
Speaker 2: those music videos and independent films with you and getting
Speaker 2: all of that amazing, amazing backstory for my career and
Speaker 2: my life experience.
Speaker 1: And then she left us, you guys, because Twinky is
Speaker 1: Brooklyn do a die and she she is, So she
Speaker 1: ventured out on the West Coast. We're not mad, you know,
Speaker 1: we supported her. But when she hit the West Coast,
Speaker 1: I don't think they knew and were ready and what
Speaker 1: had happened then twiky.
Speaker 2: Had it happen. They were not ready for me, nor
Speaker 2: did they care about me. They didn't care anything about
Speaker 2: what I did, what my background was nothing. And I
Speaker 2: was like booklyn Stall baby, like I was in it.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, I'm here, I'm here, La, hello me.
Speaker 1: And all my natural haird my twists and the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 1: And they were like.
Speaker 2: Are you what do you want?
Speaker 1: Why are you here? Like those music videos, what are those?
Speaker 2: That's nothing? So, you know, going back to my brother's apartment,
Speaker 2: a dejected, rejected, just depressed, down, frustrated, bitter a little bit,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna lie bitter sleeping on his couch. He
Speaker 2: had a Hollywood apartment on Yuka. I'll never forget it.
Speaker 2: And I told him what happened, and he was like,
Speaker 2: create the evidence. Like if they need a reel, create
Speaker 2: a reel. Where's your credit list?
Speaker 1: Make that up.
Speaker 2: People here don't know you, so you have to present
Speaker 2: in the way that you want them to know you
Speaker 2: and to see you. So I went and got a
Speaker 2: reel put together of all the music videos that I cast.
Speaker 2: I created a credit list, and I interviewed and got
Speaker 2: the job working on Moesha season four, which was amazing.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there for long six months, you know, because I'm
Speaker 2: the queen of getting fired. Y'all don't even understand how
Speaker 2: could get fired from a job. It became commonplace at
Speaker 2: that point because his personality is so big and you
Speaker 2: just can't. Yeah, but I worked for a casting director
Speaker 2: and a black production that is Moesha. I was on
Speaker 2: the Sunset Gower lot. And let me just tell you,
Speaker 2: back in the nineties, the Sunset Gower lot was like
Speaker 2: going to HBCU. It was like a black college campus
Speaker 2: because it was Moesha. It was in the house right
Speaker 2: Wayn's Brothers all right lot, so I mean black folks
Speaker 2: where it.
Speaker 1: Was so beautiful.
Speaker 2: And then of course once a week would have whatever
Speaker 2: we wanted for lunch.
Speaker 1: So Waya's brothers was.
Speaker 2: Always hiring woodies and that's a barbecue spot. And they
Speaker 2: would show up and bring those big like burner thingies,
Speaker 2: like just the big cookers, and the smoke was everywhere
Speaker 2: and we could all smell it. We could all smell
Speaker 2: on the lot, and we were like somebody's having somebody's
Speaker 2: having woodies. We were just you know, because it was
Speaker 2: the barbecue spot. And then you figure out, Okay, who
Speaker 2: do you know at that who do you know on
Speaker 2: that show that you will play? So but casting that
Speaker 2: show was amazing because I got to cast Big pun on.
Speaker 1: Ball on Moesha.
Speaker 2: I have a picture with a Big Pun and I
Speaker 2: in a golf cart because that's how he got around.
Speaker 2: That's how he got around the set in a golf cart.
Speaker 2: And I helped facilitate. Me and my assistant we facilitated
Speaker 2: getting him on the show in that short period of time.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it is amazing. That was my first.
Speaker 1: Now were we was Evel we Eve wasn't on the
Speaker 1: set then, right, or all of us our show wasn't
Speaker 1: there because no I was there. So we came after
Speaker 1: you guys because it still was when I was over there.
Speaker 1: It's still was that HBCU. And this is the deal
Speaker 1: which I love, right, is that when you think about
Speaker 1: the writers on your show, on the wig Ins and
Speaker 1: all of them they were like probably interns assistance. Now
Speaker 1: chet Kenya Bears, you know he was on one of
Speaker 1: those shows. And now I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure I'm sure Maara Mara Brockett. Tara wasn't a Keel then,
Speaker 2: but she was a supervising producer. She was a writer
Speaker 2: on Malisha when I got there season four, she was
Speaker 2: supervising uh supervising writer or something to that effect. So
Speaker 2: it was a book from a writer. So when was
Speaker 2: there Stan Lathan and Uh and Kirk Notut, Kurt Farquar,
Speaker 2: Ralph Farquhar.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and then I was there when they created The Parkers,
Speaker 2: using Masha's last episode to introduce so they would use
Speaker 2: the last episode of a show that they were on
Speaker 2: to introduce the next the next series that they were pitching,
Speaker 2: Get Addie Here is Smart. It was very fun, very
Speaker 2: like a backdoor pilot in the same we had to
Speaker 2: be we had to be innovative because remember there was
Speaker 2: a lot of crossing over to Martin and all these different.
Speaker 1: Shows, which was really great. I also want to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of Tweaky making that reference to
Speaker 1: being fired, I don't know of those experience because that
Speaker 1: was not in my experience with her. However, I do
Speaker 1: know am speaking to a producer years ago and Twinky
Speaker 1: was either getting ready to go on the project because
Speaker 1: you didn't get fired on that but one of the
Speaker 1: producers was like, she is profitive. She I said, Tweaky,
Speaker 1: let her be. She's very opinionated. She knows what she
Speaker 1: wants and what's best for the project. And I have
Speaker 1: to say mad respect for that, because a lot of
Speaker 1: times that's what a casting director does. I always say,
Speaker 1: we highly recommend, we strongly suggest, and we beg and
Speaker 1: we plead. And then the directors there they're crackheads right
Speaker 1: because they're like, I should have I should have hired
Speaker 1: barb lords when you when you go right.
Speaker 2: And they still are friends, yes, exactly. They still do
Speaker 2: that to this day. They're like, oh, I should have
Speaker 2: I should have could have world it. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I tried to tell you, but you weren't listening. I
Speaker 2: realize now that I was producing all those years ago.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2: I was producing all those years ago, and I kind
Speaker 2: of sold myself short. And one of the things that
Speaker 2: I feel like the mental warfare that happens with us,
Speaker 2: with black people in particular, but black and brown people
Speaker 2: are the Moorish Americans. There's a lot of visual warfare
Speaker 2: that's happening to us. They give something a title and
Speaker 2: then they put a white man or a white woman
Speaker 2: above that title picture photo, and so then you think
Speaker 2: subliminally that, oh, I couldn't possibly be doing that person's job,
Speaker 2: so subliminally I must be an assistant to the or
Speaker 2: an associate to the but I couldn't possibly And all
Speaker 2: the while, talent shows and Easter shows at the churches,
Speaker 2: and you were producing, You were a pastomer, design, you
Speaker 2: were makeup, you were hair, You did all of those
Speaker 2: things on that level at the church, at the mosque,
Speaker 2: at the astro, anywhere you were doing at the community center.
Speaker 2: You are producing, you are directing, you are hair, makeup,
Speaker 2: you are catering. All of those titles belong to you,
Speaker 2: belong to us, just so you know.
Speaker 1: And this was the other thing, Twinkie, because back in
Speaker 1: the day, and I love when you were talking about
Speaker 1: independent film, we were much more communal. And the thing
Speaker 1: is is that even though our jobs and the title
Speaker 1: with casting, we would pick up an apple box. We
Speaker 1: would you know, if we had to do some sort
Speaker 1: of styling on the set, we would do that as well.
Speaker 1: So I feel like you're right. We had film school training,
Speaker 1: which is encompasses everything. And that's why in they say
Speaker 1: that casting directors, most casting directors transition into producers. But
Speaker 1: as you transition into a director. What was that like
Speaker 1: for you? Because this is what I think, because I
Speaker 1: want to play with my friends.
Speaker 3: Did direct?
Speaker 1: Okay, But as a casting director, do you hire director
Speaker 1: and let her do her job? Because you know you
Speaker 1: are already know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: How is that transition? Yeah, it's it's you caught me.
Speaker 4: It's challenging. I end up like, looking over the show,
Speaker 4: You're gonna pick that one?
Speaker 2: You sure?
Speaker 1: Is that your choice? Okay?
Speaker 2: I like that one right there too, And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you do your job though, But yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2: I'm just like I can imagine. Yeah, that's that's kind
Speaker 2: of me. And I know the casting directors that I hire,
Speaker 2: they are sick of me because I'm just like where
Speaker 2: I would have and I could have and when I did,
Speaker 2: and they're like, listen, lady, are you doing this job
Speaker 2: or am I doing this job? You go direct, I'll
Speaker 2: be over here getting your cast together. So I do
Speaker 2: make my lists and then I just kind of move on,
Speaker 2: and I do realize that, you know, each one of
Speaker 2: us have a particular way of casting a project, and
Speaker 2: we bring a particular we bring a particular set of
Speaker 2: skills to said project and passion and so not everybody's
Speaker 2: going to do it the way that I do it,
Speaker 2: But just as long as I get the result that
Speaker 2: I need to exactly, that's the most important thing. So
Speaker 2: and right now, directing and executive producing, it's my passion.
Speaker 2: So yes, but I still pay attention. So now I'm
Speaker 2: watching films and I'm looking at the shots and the
Speaker 2: locations and the style, you know, and the tone, and
Speaker 2: then the second time, I look at the cast. So
Speaker 2: back then I would look at the cast first. I
Speaker 2: look at everything else first and the cast second.
Speaker 1: Yes, Now in the in are you more interested in
Speaker 1: creating and writing your own projects tapping into other outlets?
Speaker 1: And how do you think about that?
Speaker 2: I currently am writing my own project, but there are
Speaker 2: projects that I am really interested in, and I'm interested
Speaker 2: in working on those as well.
Speaker 1: So it's both.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm interested in working on both things at once.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I want to continue to write.
Speaker 2: I want to get this one project, this passion piece
Speaker 2: out of my body, and then I want to move
Speaker 2: on because there are so many other stories that I
Speaker 2: want to tell. So yeah, I'm going to focus on
Speaker 2: getting this one project out of my body, and I've
Speaker 2: been taking a lot of classes online at Collab Sundance Collab,
Speaker 2: so it's helping me a lot with my writing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: writing correct, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yes, So as a as a director, yes, what are
Speaker 1: some of the tips and advice that you would give
Speaker 1: actors from that point of view?
Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, that's a great question. One of the
Speaker 2: things that I noticed that actors want someone else to
Speaker 2: be in charge of is their own continuity. And I
Speaker 2: think actors need to know and be in charge of
Speaker 2: their own continuity. Like if you know, when.
Speaker 1: You walked over to that table and picked up.
Speaker 2: That pen and started using it to make your point
Speaker 2: when you were talking, or you know.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: If you if you walked over and picked it up,
Speaker 2: and while you were talking, you use that and then
Speaker 2: you don't do it again, and the next take this
Speaker 2: it's not gonna and you start using your hand and
Speaker 2: it's like, no, wait a minute, you had to yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and you need to remember that if you
Speaker 2: went right, left, right, sit, then you have to go
Speaker 2: right left right sit each take until we get to
Speaker 2: the medium or the close up where you just sit
Speaker 2: in or we capture you already seated so there are
Speaker 2: some of those things that I feel like or don't
Speaker 2: add things into your scene that are going to change
Speaker 2: during the scene, Like if your wine glass was full
Speaker 2: and by the time we get to the third or
Speaker 2: fourth take, you got.
Speaker 1: No this is how bluebirds happen, you guys, or your
Speaker 1: cigarette was you just lit it? I see Tweaky is
Speaker 1: saying this, you guys, because she's seen it. It's happened.
Speaker 1: That's why she's telling you guys this, and you guys
Speaker 1: need to take heed I have. It helps.
Speaker 2: It just helps to keep things, you know, like there
Speaker 2: are a lots on certain sets. Sure, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people keeping your script supervisor, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people keeping tabs on it. But when you're
Speaker 2: on a smaller, more independent production, a lot of times
Speaker 2: everybody's doing two or three jobs anyway. So it helps
Speaker 2: to move us forward more quickly and efficiently if you
Speaker 2: remember those things that you did and so that we
Speaker 2: don't have to go back to the videotape or go
Speaker 2: back to the shot. You know, the camera and did
Speaker 2: she pick up? Did you do right hand or the
Speaker 2: left hand? Was it you was her collar up? Was
Speaker 2: her collar down? Or what happened In my last film,
Speaker 2: we shot the car scenes. We were getting ready to
Speaker 2: move on, and then it hit me, did.
Speaker 1: They have their seat belt on? Were the seat belts on?
Speaker 2: Did y'all did we have the seat belts on in
Speaker 2: the shot before we move on?
Speaker 1: Seat belt?
Speaker 2: And we went and looked and sure enough they were
Speaker 2: no seat belts.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, And you can't do that in film television.
Speaker 2: You cannot shoot it if there are no You're going
Speaker 2: to get flagged flag on the plan. Yeah, they yes
Speaker 2: they are. The network's going to be like, so, do
Speaker 2: you have a shot with the seat belt? Is there
Speaker 2: a shot? I need a shot with the seat belt? Like,
Speaker 2: you can't car running shots without seat belts, right, solo.
Speaker 1: I've never ever heard ever twinkie that advice before about continuity.
Speaker 1: So that and and it's probably because actors do rely
Speaker 1: on the script supervisor to do that. Back in the day.
Speaker 1: That's when we have polaroids, you guys, And we have
Speaker 1: this big thick silver ring and all the parts that
Speaker 1: ring with a whole, Yes we have, so we can
Speaker 1: match stuff. But you guys, that is some of the
Speaker 1: best advice I've ever heard, because that is so true. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've never nobody ever talks about constituity. So I had
Speaker 1: Bitty Boom earlier this year on the show Yes We
Speaker 1: Love Bitty and another music video direct that that's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I know you work with Britty
Speaker 1: music video director. One of the things that Benny said
Speaker 1: is that actors are getting one maybe too maybe too definitely,
Speaker 1: you know, So if you have, what advice would you
Speaker 1: give to actors to be prepared because we no longer
Speaker 1: come on set, go on our trailer warming up and
Speaker 1: all that. I keep telling actors, you got to come
Speaker 1: on Volcanic, honc. There's no warm ups anymore.
Speaker 2: You do and you will well.
Speaker 1: As a director, what would you tell them?
Speaker 2: Prepare, Prepare in the car, Prepare before you get there, Prepare,
Speaker 2: have your quiet moment as you're driving in Now it's
Speaker 2: not the time to be, you know, blasting loud music,
Speaker 2: of course, unless you have to get amped up, like
Speaker 2: now is the time for you too, And that should
Speaker 2: be part of your practice anyway, is quiet moments. You know,
Speaker 2: part of your practice should be, you know, some level
Speaker 2: of meditation to center yourself so that when you get
Speaker 2: on set you're not pulled into everybody else's chaos, because
Speaker 2: once you get on set, it's chaotic, like everything's moving
Speaker 2: at lightning speed and everything needs to be done yesterday.
Speaker 2: So you have got to do You've got to I
Speaker 2: always come to set, Okay, the call is, the crew
Speaker 2: call is at eight, the cast call is at nine.
Speaker 2: I'm there at six thirty or seven because I need
Speaker 2: to center myself A and B. I want the first
Speaker 2: cup of coffee. I'll just be real with it. I
Speaker 2: need the first cup the.
Speaker 1: Freshly remember that, y'all, the first cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: But also too, I need to make my space. I
Speaker 2: set up whatever, I set up my area where I'm
Speaker 2: going to and I need to just like, okay, let me,
Speaker 2: let me center, let me breathe, let me focus, let
Speaker 2: me get prepared. And then once that happens, you've got
Speaker 2: to be flexible and cunning. Yeah, be flexible. I know
Speaker 2: how you practice it at home. And then here comes
Speaker 2: the notes and the notes and the pink pages, the
Speaker 2: blue pages and the yellow page. It ain't come and
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, so we changed this into this. This
Speaker 2: is now going to be that we're moving this shot
Speaker 2: here and because it's raining tomorrow, we're going to bring
Speaker 2: that shot up and you've got to be flexible, hand cunning.
Speaker 2: And remember, yeah, we did that on a set one
Speaker 2: set one time, and everyone was sitting in the church
Speaker 2: on the night before Christmas with Kirk Franklin, Nateriy Naughton,
Speaker 2: and Luke James. And on a Friday, we were supposed
Speaker 2: to shoot that next Monday a scene and most people
Speaker 2: prepare the night before for the next day's scenes so
Speaker 2: they have their scenes for the next day. Well, on
Speaker 2: that Thursday, we found out. On Friday, we found out
Speaker 2: that Friday's scenes were being moved to Monday. Because Monday
Speaker 2: was moved to Friday. Monday was supposed to be an
Speaker 2: exterior and the blue screen was supposed to be used,
Speaker 2: and we had to create snow in August in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: and it was going to rain.
Speaker 1: You can't use a blue.
Speaker 2: Screen exterior and the fake snow turns basically into gum
Speaker 2: like when water hits it, so you can't do So
Speaker 2: everyone's sitting in the hallway that was our holding area.
Speaker 2: The whole cast is sitting in the hallway learning their
Speaker 2: lines for the next for the next scene that was
Speaker 2: supposed to be on Monday, but which is now going
Speaker 2: to be because of that, so things change on the fly,
Speaker 2: but they got quiet, they got still. I instructed the
Speaker 2: crew to be as quiet as possible. Our cast is
Speaker 2: trying to learn their lines because we had to make
Speaker 2: some changes, and just to work as quietly as they
Speaker 2: possibly can so that we could and they pulled it off.
Speaker 2: My cast beautiful.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm just a two slasch of you. This
Speaker 1: went by too fast, but I'm going to give you
Speaker 1: all four minutes please. We're here to talk about Twinki's
Speaker 1: new book called Let's Link. Let's talk about it, and
Speaker 1: she has a plethora You guys need to tell them
Speaker 1: where they can go and get her other books as well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's link. Oh my god, let's link. So
Speaker 2: let me tell you the impetus of Let's Link. I
Speaker 2: got a DM, I get dms a lot that are
Speaker 2: just completely out of pocket. And it's usually young people.
Speaker 2: They want what they want. They don't want to they
Speaker 2: just want what they want. They're like, here's what I need,
Speaker 2: here's what I want. I want you to look at
Speaker 2: my pictures. I want you to tell me what's working
Speaker 2: and are you casting anything. I want you to link
Speaker 2: me with or introduce me to your family member, your brother,
Speaker 2: your cousin, or whoever it is, like, I get a
Speaker 2: lot of those, and I realized, first I did, I
Speaker 2: did a reel about it using a Q tip and
Speaker 2: I tribe. I use tribe, and I did a reel
Speaker 2: about it that got about I think it's got about
Speaker 2: sixteen thousand views right now now, yes, And then I decided,
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, instead of just getting upset
Speaker 2: about it or frustrated, why don't I get them the
Speaker 2: tools or the information a monetize it, because you know
Speaker 2: people don't respect it. If it's free, they need to
Speaker 2: pay for it. But make it available to everyone. And
Speaker 2: you know it's not expensive. It's seven ninety nine. It's
Speaker 2: a fifteen page ebook with lots of visuals and positive
Speaker 2: sayings and vibes and colors and all of that. But
Speaker 2: I also give you examples of dues and don'ts, and
Speaker 2: those were real. Those are real dudes and don'ts in
Speaker 2: my book. Those are real, real dms or emails that
Speaker 2: I have received. Will yes, so when you see them,
Speaker 2: you will understand. And some people who I already know
Speaker 2: who read it, they said, oh my gosh, I did
Speaker 2: all of those things that you said.
Speaker 1: Don't do Wow, that's so good. I'm so I'm happy
Speaker 1: for the book because you know, I've in my experience
Speaker 1: this is the deal. Like you and I came up
Speaker 1: at a time where there were very few people that
Speaker 1: look like us, and we did and we boss because
Speaker 1: Twicky was a part of bringing in choices that the
Speaker 1: director did not ask for, but she believed in and
Speaker 1: stood by. Okay. So the thing is is that when
Speaker 1: I had an invite to a showcase last week, and
Speaker 1: I would have gone, unfortunately the weather did stop me
Speaker 1: because you know, arthritis is real, but anyway, that doesn't
Speaker 1: prevent my life from going on. But it was the
Speaker 1: way in which I was approached. It was, hey, Tracy,
Speaker 1: you know like to invite you to the showcase, and
Speaker 1: this is the information. I said, okay. So I responded
Speaker 1: and said have you read my bio and said yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you have a podcast. So my head spun
Speaker 1: around like the Exorcist, and then I found my stillness
Speaker 1: and peace, and I said, what I need you to
Speaker 1: do is do your due diligence on anybody that you
Speaker 1: asked to be a judge on your panel. That's really
Speaker 1: import So I sent him my bio. He read my bio,
Speaker 1: then it was miss Tracy because I said to him,
Speaker 1: you're standing on my shoulders. I'm not standing on your shoulders.
Speaker 1: And the young people need to do their due diligence
Speaker 1: and respect the people that came and carved. Like literally,
Speaker 1: guys when we came up. You know those machines that
Speaker 1: break cement, break grounds, That's what we were.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's how we can. That's a great working through.
Speaker 2: We were like that jack knife that.
Speaker 1: Yes, jack knife, Yes, So please don't make me feel
Speaker 1: like Twinkie and I broke our backs for nothing. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's the just himvv dot covas. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's and they hit you with the get too familiar
Speaker 2: too quickly, and it was foundary. I'm like, I am
Speaker 2: old enough to be your mother or grandmother. You will
Speaker 2: address like excuse me, miss Twinkie. To you, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's happened here?
Speaker 1: What's going nobody's teaching to nobody like and and and
Speaker 1: and That's why I feel like it's not all the time,
Speaker 1: but most of the time. It is my job to
Speaker 1: say that. Because I said to him after he read
Speaker 1: my bio, I said this is a teachable moment for you,
Speaker 1: right right, because this is gonna help because the next
Speaker 1: time you approach the money, you're going to do your
Speaker 1: due diligence. Right because somebody told me that I came
Speaker 1: up with you know, mister Oslie Davis and miss Ruby
Speaker 1: d those were my mentors when I landed in New York.
Speaker 1: So you know, they showed me a whole other way.
Speaker 2: Oh. I first of all, if I get a written
Speaker 2: note anymore, like at that's that's huge. A written note
Speaker 2: or a card postcard. Oh, it's just like mana from him.
Speaker 2: I'm just like holding on to it, like yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so precious. Yeah, but right now, okay, I have to
Speaker 2: wrap it up. And they need to network. So the
Speaker 2: network portion, that's what whether in person or via DM
Speaker 2: or email, they needed to learn how to network. So
Speaker 2: I created Let's Link and it's about social media and
Speaker 2: in person so it's helpful. It's seven ninety nine and
Speaker 2: it's on my website, twinkybird dot com.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, twinkybird dot com. Everybody is going
Speaker 1: to go there today and purchase a book. Today is
Speaker 1: less linkeday, So everybody got to go and get less
Speaker 1: link okay, and I'm gonna check it with y'all too.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting ready to go into our questions segment.
Speaker 1: We're going to bring on Elsa Lathan. You know, Elsa.
Speaker 1: Elsa is going to introduce us to our straight out
Speaker 1: to lumni who are going to ask questions to Twinky Bird.
Speaker 1: I'm Twinky.
Speaker 5: I so many gems as usual, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad.
Speaker 5: So today we have two actors who have questions for you.
Speaker 5: We have mister Josan Robinson and missus Janelle hal Reagan.
Speaker 5: You can come on.
Speaker 1: Hi, just hi, Janelle, Hello, and.
Speaker 5: We will do latest first. So Janelle, you're up first
Speaker 5: with your question. Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: Mister see you, Miss Twinkie, how are.
Speaker 2: You doing well? How are you?
Speaker 6: I am well, I'm very excited to be here. I
Speaker 6: love Miss Tracy so much, so I'm just thankful. And
Speaker 6: you know, I'm gonna jump right into my question.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: First, I do have the e book.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 6: I have read the e book and I've been on
Speaker 6: your Instagram since before COVID and I was watching them
Speaker 6: tell them Tuesdays and I was in your comment section
Speaker 6: like okay, so this is how you do it and
Speaker 6: you've response to me, and I'm like, okay, great, I
Speaker 6: do know right now we are in the middle of,
Speaker 6: you know, the strike, and I.
Speaker 2: Think it's very we're in the end of the strike.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
Speaker 6: I just read an article about WGS. Yes, and I
Speaker 6: do know that For me, this year has been it
Speaker 6: has been very important to focus on being of service,
Speaker 6: and that's something that you do talk about. And for me,
Speaker 6: I don't just want to be of service like in
Speaker 6: a sense of you know, well, how can I support online,
Speaker 6: but to actually be physically present. So for me, I'm
Speaker 6: really looking for, you know, that circle of just learning
Speaker 6: and how do you do that? On social media? When
Speaker 6: you reach out to people to be of service? What
Speaker 6: is something or what is a good way to reach
Speaker 6: out to somebody and say, hey, you know, whatever you need,
Speaker 6: I'm here for you. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 6: but I just want to help you.
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's a good question. First of all, make
Speaker 2: sure that that person is in your area so that
Speaker 2: you can actually literally physically be of service. So that
Speaker 2: would be first. Second, lurk lurk with a purpose, because
Speaker 2: everyone's telling you all their business on social media, so
Speaker 2: they're letting you know what they need need you just
Speaker 2: aren't looking. You can't let You have got to be
Speaker 2: in charge of your mind and your attention span. So
Speaker 2: pay attention. That is the best currency. Ever. When you
Speaker 2: pay attention to people and they receive that attention, they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you did your homework. You scrolled. That was far down
Speaker 2: in my feed, but you scrolled. You did some work here. Okay,
Speaker 2: you dug in deep. You realize that I'm having challenges
Speaker 2: walking the dog and taking my kids to school and
Speaker 2: returning emails and you know, or something to that effect,
Speaker 2: and then you focus on filling that gap and naming it.
Speaker 2: I see that you're at you having some challenges with emails.
Speaker 2: I can do virtual or I can come and respond.
Speaker 2: You can create a template for me and I can
Speaker 2: fill it in and respond for you whatever you need.
Speaker 2: Make sure you're c seed whatever it is that you
Speaker 2: need me to do in that area. I can do that.
Speaker 2: Or you could walk the dog like whatever that is,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I love fresh air and sunshine.
Speaker 2: I could give the dog a walk for you. Give
Speaker 2: you time to take a hot shower and do some
Speaker 2: deep breathing and have a cup of coffee for yourself,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So if you want to
Speaker 2: be a physical service, be a physical service. But they
Speaker 2: already told you what they need, you just need to
Speaker 2: find it. I like that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, welcome, great.
Speaker 5: Question, awesome, And next up we have Josahn Robinson.
Speaker 7: Absolutely amazing to be sitting here with you and I
Speaker 7: on the same screen. Nobody is going to believe me
Speaker 7: when I tell them this, so I'm waiting so I
Speaker 7: can show them something.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
Speaker 7: But as I have been sitting here, and of course everyone,
Speaker 7: as far as I know, everyone in the world should
Speaker 7: know who you are. And I'm actually from the generation.
Speaker 7: So as you were talking, all of the stuff that
Speaker 7: you was saying and everything that you've been a part
Speaker 7: of is literally my generation and you know, bringing back.
Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff.
Speaker 7: So I'm sitting here this big fan and a geek
Speaker 7: at the same time.
Speaker 3: But uh, and I'm sure you probably did this question
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 7: But as you was, you know, talking, one word that
Speaker 7: kept jumping into my head was accountability. Yeah, and you
Speaker 7: know from like you said, like you mentioned the Moesias
Speaker 7: and the food bille stations and stomped the yard every
Speaker 7: many James and all of that.
Speaker 3: Different type of stuff, American skin whichever, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: That was amazing.
Speaker 7: And then, like I said, we could go on and on,
Speaker 7: and I really had to dig deep and I was
Speaker 7: like mynd oke my foot in my mouth. But even
Speaker 7: with the baby on Ready to Die, I was like,
Speaker 7: you know, with that whole casting and everything like that
Speaker 7: with Bad Boy, I was like, my God, like literally
Speaker 7: my whole blue you know, everything I've been a part of,
Speaker 7: She's behind all my stuff. So I say all that
Speaker 7: to say, you know, as you are, you know, do
Speaker 7: sing and direct thing and the whole nine, how much
Speaker 7: and how big the importance it is for you to
Speaker 7: be accountable for seems like telling our story and representing
Speaker 7: because you were sort of mentioning it, but it seems
Speaker 7: like your journey in the industry has all had to
Speaker 7: do with representing, like I said, black and brown people
Speaker 7: and being you know, a pioneer or a trailblazer for
Speaker 7: telling our story and being accountable that we are seen
Speaker 7: and heard and shown and showcased and all of that
Speaker 7: stuff in the propert way, because like they'll say it,
Speaker 7: you are directly behind, in my opinion, all of the
Speaker 7: things that when we look back on our generation and
Speaker 7: over the last you know, several decades, and our culture.
Speaker 7: You're the data repeter over and over and over again,
Speaker 7: like you are the person responsible.
Speaker 3: For our culture. So how does that feel to you?
Speaker 7: And and you know what is you know, what is
Speaker 7: your sense of you know, you know, taking accountability for us?
Speaker 3: Honestly?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's true, Tiki, It's true.
Speaker 2: It's the most important.
Speaker 1: Thing to me.
Speaker 2: There is no just in front of black. There is
Speaker 2: black there is our stories. There is beauty in us
Speaker 2: and culture and sensitivity and strengths and vulnerability. It is
Speaker 2: my honor to represent us in the way that I
Speaker 2: have been able to do. And because I come from
Speaker 2: to amazing parents, I always want to make sure that
Speaker 2: the black man, that the head of our household, is
Speaker 2: represented properly and well, and that even if there is
Speaker 2: a challenge in our family or in our community or
Speaker 2: with him, that it comes back around so that we
Speaker 2: see if a black man has fallen, or another black
Speaker 2: man picks it up, or if that black man can't
Speaker 2: pick it up, then we have another. But it's so
Speaker 2: incredibly important to me. I have a black man that's
Speaker 2: a brother. I have a black beautiful black man in
Speaker 2: my life that it's so important to me to make
Speaker 2: sure that I hold up black love and black family
Speaker 2: and black positive that black positivity or as my brother
Speaker 2: Cush would say, and Moorish Moorish Americans and too. As
Speaker 2: I'm growing in my own education, I just focus on
Speaker 2: infusing it in everything, in every aspect and everything that
Speaker 2: I do. Because we are my why. We just are.
Speaker 2: We are my why. And like I said earlier with Tracy,
Speaker 2: we were loving up on each other in music video
Speaker 2: so much so that those shots, those slow modes, those
Speaker 2: beauty shots that our brothers and sisters were getting in
Speaker 2: those short films to music, those were our commercials of ourselves.
Speaker 2: Like I stopped watching all of the different kinds of
Speaker 2: makeup and hair and whatever stuff that was on television
Speaker 2: in the eighties and the nineties, and I just focused
Speaker 2: on our beauty and our togetherness and our family. And
Speaker 2: so it is we are my why, and it's the
Speaker 2: most important why there is to me. So thank you
Speaker 2: for that question.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful question. Jason, thank you, your son, thank you, Jane,
Speaker 1: thank you, Elsa, absolutely, thank you, Twinky, Like this is
Speaker 1: you guys, this is why I had the introduction to us.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, don't be delivered. All right, get back, because
Speaker 1: we're going to come back. We're still blessed with the
Speaker 1: phenomenal Tracy Twinkie Bird, casting director, producer, director, writer, author
Speaker 1: and spiritual being a light a light. We'll be back
Speaker 1: from the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore, and
Speaker 1: we're going to come back with Class in Session. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore,
Speaker 1: and you still have the presence the blessing, be grateful.
Speaker 1: Tracy Tweaky Bird is here with us. Now we have
Speaker 1: two of our spirit Actor Alumna Elsa is going to
Speaker 1: introduce them and I will read the narrative for the
Speaker 1: film for the scene. Once the film is over, these
Speaker 1: actors are going to be blessed with gems and feedback
Speaker 1: from Twinkie Bird. And understand she is brutally artist and
Speaker 1: that's why I love her. Okay, Elsa, who we got Yes.
Speaker 5: So today on Class in Session we have two Spirited
Speaker 5: Actor alumni, mister Josan Robinson and Miss Janelle Hall Reagan.
Speaker 5: So on action, we're ready action.
Speaker 1: That's not the news. Written by Dana kill exterior home
Speaker 1: front sidewalk day Amara late thirties stands in front of
Speaker 1: a quaint home with a picket stock with a picket fence.
Speaker 1: A car approaches. Amera sees the purple, lifts led and waves.
Speaker 1: The car pulls towards her and stops. Interior Gray Kia
Speaker 1: Soul continuous. Joshua early twenties adjusted Mara and swipes his
Speaker 1: phone to pick up passenger. Amara America's in the car,
Speaker 1: buckles her seatbelt and settles in.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Is it my room?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is, good morning, host? Way am I saying
Speaker 6: that correctly?
Speaker 3: Actually, you got it perfect? To be honest. How you
Speaker 3: doing today?
Speaker 6: It's going well, It's going well considering Yeah, I know right.
Speaker 6: Mean listen, it is on every news outlet. Every time
Speaker 6: I Google search on my phone. It's a new development.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, trust me. Every time I get on it
Speaker 3: seems like it's the only thing people.
Speaker 6: Are talking about, exactly. I mean, I don't want the
Speaker 6: news where I turned. I also don't want to look
Speaker 6: like the person that has no idea what's going on?
Speaker 3: Exactly. I did a Google source this morning. Guess what
Speaker 3: popped up this whole? We call on beef beef, be beef? Like,
Speaker 3: what am I supposed to do now? If I want
Speaker 3: to get something to eat? What do I go for
Speaker 3: a nice steak? What rest of on? I tell you
Speaker 3: this whole food crisis statements?
Speaker 1: Wait wait, Mirror shifts in her seat and leans forward
Speaker 1: a little.
Speaker 6: There's a recall on beef.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a recall for like the past week.
Speaker 3: I mean it's only the news. I mean everybody's talking
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 1: Could you eat chicken?
Speaker 3: Chicken, chicken, foul fish, all of that stuff's been on.
Speaker 3: We called for what the past month?
Speaker 6: What I mean, Well, we've been in a crisis for
Speaker 6: almost a week, all because scientists have said due to
Speaker 6: the past what three earthquakes, that there's a possible eight
Speaker 6: point three tomorrow?
Speaker 7: Like, wait, tell about so you're trying to tell me
Speaker 7: we could die for I could die tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Oh who are going to trembles? Probably not okay?
Speaker 6: But uh, do you have your earthquake water?
Speaker 3: I got this bottle water and I got a gallon
Speaker 3: at home. Nobody's saying anything about earthquakeer. I was going
Speaker 3: to go to the shop this morning.
Speaker 1: As Joshua and a mayor ride pass the supermarket, there
Speaker 1: are long lines of people waiting to go inside. Customers
Speaker 1: can be seen running to their cars with shopping carts
Speaker 1: full of toilet paper and paper tasks. All these people
Speaker 1: are panicking over shortages.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, like they're going crazy, Like what's going on?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been stopping them all week. Joshua stops the
Speaker 1: car and he turns into the grocery store. He swerves
Speaker 1: to avoid two people wrestling over a twenty four roll
Speaker 1: pack of toilet paper. A homeless person sneaks a gallon
Speaker 1: of water from the shopping cart of one of the
Speaker 1: parking lot wrestlers.
Speaker 3: This is not my stock, what is mine?
Speaker 7: I don't have any earth water, toilet paper, toilet tissue,
Speaker 7: I don't have anything. And my phone it just wain't
Speaker 7: said chicken was good now, So I gotta.
Speaker 1: Go vegan and and Whole Foods is a block away?
Speaker 1: Where are you going?
Speaker 2: Chix?
Speaker 1: Is why Uber gets one star? I'm walking just on
Speaker 1: me big all right, Twiggy, it's on you.
Speaker 2: That was That was great?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Yes?
Speaker 2: That was I love that scene. That's adorable, And I
Speaker 2: know I believe I know the writer. I enjoyed that scene. Okay,
Speaker 2: So here's the thing to me that feels like, and
Speaker 2: you tell me what you think, but it feels like
Speaker 2: it's two people who are going through life really quickly,
Speaker 2: the exchanging information.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to have some level of humor to it.
Speaker 2: As well, and it almost can feel like and for
Speaker 2: lack of a better it can almost feel like Frasier Seinfeld, any.
Speaker 1: Of those types of shows.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, right now, it feels a little a little
Speaker 2: bit too like you're dragging. It's dragging, and it's dragging
Speaker 2: on your end, Janelle. I want you to I want
Speaker 2: you both to pick it up.
Speaker 1: Janelle. I feel like I need to see.
Speaker 2: Where you're coming from and where you're going. Where are
Speaker 2: you coming from?
Speaker 6: In your head, I'm coming from the house. Uh, this
Speaker 6: is my last trip before I'm done stocking up for
Speaker 6: the rest of the week. I am tired of everything
Speaker 6: that's going on with the news. I just want to
Speaker 6: get to my destination and get in the house and
Speaker 6: go about my day.
Speaker 2: And so you're and where are you going to the
Speaker 2: Whole Foods?
Speaker 1: Is that where you're at?
Speaker 6: It on a Whole Foods to just stock up on
Speaker 6: a little tofu turkey and some new non dairy, non gmo.
Speaker 6: She's addressing from my salads.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you are a person that has all
Speaker 2: of those things in your mind, what kind of personality
Speaker 2: do you have? If you're looking for tofurky and non
Speaker 2: gmo and all of those particular things. I need to
Speaker 2: see a very particular person. I need you to choose
Speaker 2: that type of thought process and personality.
Speaker 1: Who is she?
Speaker 2: What does she have in her house? Where is she going?
Speaker 1: How is she? How does she handle that type of
Speaker 1: that type of thing? Is she a list person?
Speaker 2: Do you have a list? Is a list on your phone?
Speaker 2: Are you looking at information? Are you swiping? Are you
Speaker 2: I need to see all of those things or else?
Speaker 2: It's just a scene where two people are talking and
Speaker 2: that are those are the particular things that take you
Speaker 2: over the top as far as me being interested in
Speaker 2: that person, you made strong character choices, and I didn't
Speaker 2: see any strong character choices. When you think about Seinfeld
Speaker 2: or Frasier, each of those characters have strong character choices.
Speaker 2: If you are Niles, you are OCD. You wipe the
Speaker 2: seat before you sit down. You have all of those
Speaker 2: particular things that you do and that you are before
Speaker 2: you get in a place before you, I mean, are
Speaker 2: you this type of person that had wipes? Are you
Speaker 2: looking around at your environment? Does this car even look safe?
Speaker 2: Like all of those things should be coming oozing out
Speaker 2: of you? And for you, Joshua, oh, I'm sorry, Josan,
Speaker 2: I apologize for you. Am I saying that correctly? Is it?
Speaker 2: Joseph jo Son? For you, Joe San, thank you very
Speaker 2: much for I want to feel like who are you?
Speaker 2: Are you a dad? Are you a like?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 2: And what are the what is the reason why you're
Speaker 2: driving Uber? And all of those things? And then of course,
Speaker 2: you guys, you kind of trigger each other. You got
Speaker 2: bad news, and you've got bad news. You got you
Speaker 2: don't know about this, well, you don't know about that. Well,
Speaker 2: you know the water isn't goga. You know, you got
Speaker 2: to get those that ad banter should be coming back
Speaker 2: and forth really quickly. And the reactions to that, like
Speaker 2: why don't I know about that? All of that stuff?
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to see it and who
Speaker 2: are you? Why are you? Why are you driving?
Speaker 3: Uber?
Speaker 1: Josan?
Speaker 3: I see myself as being a younger person. Who is
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 7: More so on social media definitely with the phone always
Speaker 7: in his hand. He's googling all the time, because he
Speaker 7: mentioned that about two or three times in the very beginning.
Speaker 7: It is Google Google, So that's the only way he
Speaker 7: gets his information, which is also of the reason why
Speaker 7: he doesn't know anything about his earthquake and everything like that.
Speaker 7: He knows about you know, whatever is you know, coming
Speaker 7: through on his phone, whatever is on the social media
Speaker 7: black forms. He's young, and so that, you know, some
Speaker 7: of the stuff is oblivious. At home, he's just got
Speaker 7: water and probably got the hot dogs and some potato roads.
Speaker 3: Probably all he's got.
Speaker 7: So I don't I don't see him with a family,
Speaker 7: because with a family, I think he probably would know
Speaker 7: some of the more major issues and things like that
Speaker 7: that's happening, you know, probably would be more prepared for
Speaker 7: you know, earthquakes, and you know, he would have water
Speaker 7: at home, you know, and like.
Speaker 2: That could be could be not where are you from,
Speaker 2: just son, I'm from DC? And uh your background like family.
Speaker 3: Uh sick parent home, you know, middle class mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, so single currently you have single? Okay, so let's age.
Speaker 2: Let's let's go age appropriate. Let's go age appropriate for you. Okay, However,
Speaker 2: age appropriate single man is basically like a twenty year
Speaker 2: old guy, like right, like, we're still doing bachelor's steak,
Speaker 2: which is cereal. We may still be doing. So you're
Speaker 2: a little immature in that way of since you don't
Speaker 2: have a life partner, that you only have to look
Speaker 2: out for yourself. So there's only one of everything in
Speaker 2: your place because there's only been you, so you only
Speaker 2: have to look out for yourself. That's why you only
Speaker 2: have one bottle of water, because it's all about me.
Speaker 2: So let's make him single, age appropriate, selfish, and immature. Okay,
Speaker 2: And yes you google because you've learned about Google for
Speaker 2: maybe the young women that you date. Oo, the young
Speaker 2: women that you date have turned you on to Google
Speaker 2: and how to do your research, I like. And then
Speaker 2: this pretty young thing gets in there and she's looking
Speaker 2: at you like you a daddy, and you looking at
Speaker 2: her like she's a you know, she's the next she
Speaker 2: could be the next. And she's like, yeah, no, I'm
Speaker 2: not that. I give you some information and yeah, you look,
Speaker 2: you remind me of my dad kind of thing. Let's
Speaker 2: mix it up in that way so that we can
Speaker 2: add some layers to this so it doesn't just feel
Speaker 2: like a scene. Let's make it a moment.
Speaker 1: Can we do that?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Well, my thought is this that Janelle and Jason tape
Speaker 1: this and we send that tape to you. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: my thought. How about love it? How about y'all take
Speaker 1: all the notes that Twinkie gave you because they were brilliant,
Speaker 1: and send that tape and show her. Let's not talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: Let's absolutely it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, so tweaky Twinkie. I'll give them
Speaker 1: a couple of days. I'll get this tape and I'll
Speaker 1: send it right to you and and their their resume
Speaker 1: and photo will be along with that as well.
Speaker 2: Sounds good, Okay, make strong choices. You'll be amazing.
Speaker 7: Oh yay, this is great.
Speaker 1: Okay, Ladies and gentlemen. I hate to let her go.
Speaker 1: I hate to leave. Oh God, So that's okay because
Speaker 1: we go have conversations. H Ladies and gentlemen, you know,
Speaker 1: want you to stand up and put your hands together
Speaker 1: for the phenomenal, spectacular Jennaz loving and calm, patting director, producer, director, writer, author, extraordinary,
Speaker 1: spiritual human being, all of that wrapped up. She is
Speaker 1: the sun. Let her shine Tracy, Twinkie Burner, thank you,
Speaker 1: thanks standing, thank you, Thank you, Twinky and everybody go
Speaker 1: to twinkiebird dot com pick up that book. Let's link.
Speaker 1: Janelle has it. You could look up Janelle. She'll tell
Speaker 1: you about it and tell you what she says. She
Speaker 1: got a big old smile on the face. So we
Speaker 1: already know, all right, and I'm waiting and I got byed,
Speaker 1: but we got to get our side by Tweaky, so
Speaker 1: it's official. Okay, yeah, all right. So when we come
Speaker 1: back on the Spirited Actor Podcast, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a Tweaky gave you. I'm gonna give you, guys, some love.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna give you. And now it's time
Speaker 1: to give love. Don't sweat the small stuff. And guess what,
Speaker 1: it's all small stuff. I remember when that book came
Speaker 1: out years ago. Don't sweat the small stuff. And what
Speaker 1: my takeaway with that, It's more about our mental health,
Speaker 1: you guys. We spend a lot of time replaying, reviewing
Speaker 1: things that take us back into that anger, take us
Speaker 1: back into that frustration, triggers us to be even more
Speaker 1: angry and frustrated. It's all small stuff. In the bigger picture.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you do the best
Speaker 1: that you can and you help people in the best
Speaker 1: ways that you can. The message love yourself, stop picking
Speaker 1: on yourself. And because that's where we go first, we
Speaker 1: go to ourselves. All Right, you know I'm too sure,
Speaker 1: I don't have enough hair, I got too much here.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, don't sweat it, be grateful, trust the journey,
Speaker 1: trust the process, and trust yourselves. Don't forget to look
Speaker 1: out for us. On our new show, Inside the Black Box,
Speaker 1: my co host will be Joe the Legend Morton. It's
Speaker 1: going to be the Spirited Actor Podcast on Steroids. We'll
Speaker 1: be streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast
Speaker 1: with me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next
Speaker 1: Spirited podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you.