WEBVTT - The Spirited Actor - Tracy "Twinkie" Byrd 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.320 Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.440 Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.600 TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.200 a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:19.440 Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.479 I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.240 I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.560 transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:37.400 Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.120 Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.080 also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.760 I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.320 I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.840 acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.120 that room. Now I know, I know actors want to 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.240 get the job. I get that, but being remembered by 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:05.959 casting director that is powerful. And now it's time for 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:10.800 meditation of the day. I realize that I don't have 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.600 to be perfect. All I have to do is show 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:18.360 up and enjoy the messy, imperfection and beautiful journey of 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.440 my life. Kerrie Washington. Let me tell you something about life. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.480 As you evolve and you get I say wiser, some 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.240 people say older. But as you evolve in this world, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.480 you learn a lot of things. And one of the 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.800 things you learn is that nobody cares. At the end 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.800 of the day, nobody cares. Everybody has their own life 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.959 to live their own business that they mind, and so 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:51.000 should you. Life is not perfect and we should not 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:55.920 be striving for perfection. We should be striving to be 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.960 the best that we can be. And if that's enough 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.880 for us, then that's enough. We don't need to live 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:08.520 up to anybody else's standards, anybody's expectations of us. We 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:14.280 live for the expectations of ourselves. We celebrate ourselves every day, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.800 whether it's with the Starbucks mocha or it's just sitting 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.919 on a park bench admiring the trees and the grass 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:28.760 and the beautiful flowers around you. Celebrate your life, Celebrate 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.680 your successes, Celebrate your failures because your failures continue to 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:39.560 motivate you into success. The most important thing is to 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:44.480 understand there's no pressure to be, do or have anything 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:50.120 in this world. Just be the best that you can be. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.280 Before we get started, I'd like to remind everyone to 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.920 look out for my new show, Inside the black Box. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.359 I'll be co hosting with the great Joe Morton. We'll 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.440 be on Crackle Network real soon. I'll keep you posted. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.120 Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.040 I just need a second, because you've got to breathe 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.959 in people that you love. You got to breathe them in, Okay, 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:21.600 because they are the energy source, they are the motivation inspiration. Still, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.079 I say this, when you meet people in this industry 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:32.640 that create an energy within you that you want to 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:37.160 be better, that you want to be of service, that 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.880 you love what you do. You don't go to work, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.120 you go to fun. When you surround yourself around people 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:50.400 like that and energy, keep those people close. And I 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.280 have to say, I was saying the other day to 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:57.480 a producer, how Twinkie so boldly boldly walked into my 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:02.240 office and was like, like, I want to be your assistant. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.280 And I didn't ask her for a resume reference. I 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.960 was like, okay because of the way she walked in, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.920 So I was like I had to know her. Ladies 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.400 and gentlemen, when I tell you I love this woman 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.760 and her family. I've been in her life for so long, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:25.640 She's been a by for so long. She is Oh 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.320 my god as a casting director, one of the most phenomenal, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.680 legendary casting directors that exist in this casting in this 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:41.080 entertainment business, producer, director, award winning director of a piece 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.120 called The Counter. If you have not seen it, we'll 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.640 ask her where we can see it. And she is 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.280 a writer, author of plethora of books, and that's why 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.240 I wanted her on here today to talk about her 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.560 current book, Let's Link. But we're going to cover all 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.920 of it. I need you to surround my sister Fred 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.920 with love, light and hugs. Ladies and gentlemen, please put 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.000 your hands together for Tracy Twinkie birds. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.719 Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.120 thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. It sprinkled, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.800 Come on, sprinkle sprinkle me. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.560 I was sitting here and listening to you, and I 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.279 was like, she must be talking about herself, because that's 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.440 how I feel the presence, that's how I feel. I'm like, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:33.600 she's talking about herself because you make me better, you. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:34.960 Make me want to be better. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.080 You were the person that said, yes, come when I 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.400 was scared to death on that phone and my knees 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.480 were knocking, and I saw that that article that in 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.159 the in the newspaper, and I was like, I'm gonna 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.960 call this number and see what she needs help. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.960 And that's how she showed up. That's that's how she 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.680 showed up. And that's why she was laughing. Y'all can't 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.600 see it, but that's why she was laughing because she 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.440 didn't show up like that. The confidence and looted from 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.800 this woman, I say, I have to have her come on. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:13.040 And your career is an example of that. So Twinkie 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.560 Bird tell us where, well we know New Jersey. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.200 We don't where it all began with you. It all 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:22.120 began with you. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.000 That's where it all begans, we could tell. So after 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.440 New Jersey Drive, Yes. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:35.640 After New Jersey Drive and just another Girl on the Irt, Yes, 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:41.599 after that, I started casting music videos. And that was 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.720 in the what early that was in the nineties nineties. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.080 Oh gosh, there were people on this call that probably 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.760 weren't even born then, but yes, that was. That was 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.680 in the nineties, and that was my film school. That 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.800 was a lot of a lot of film schools for 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.360 a lot of people. A lot of us got our 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:07.599 walkie talkie talk We got our set experience, We received 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.920 our prep experience, we received all of the experiences, the 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.920 post experience. I received all of those experiences through those 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.440 amazing days of when music videos were short films to 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:25.760 music and all of those filmmakers, all of us came 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:33.120 together black brown and created that we would either recreate 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.120 a film in music video form or we created a 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.960 short film in music video form. We loved on each 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.400 other in that way. You got the slow mo of 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.960 the chocolate brother from the lips on up to his 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:53.280 hairline and our brows, and you got the slow mo 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.400 of the chocolate sisters walking because we didn't have that. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.520 We didn't have slow motion of black and brown people 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:06.160 melanated in slow motion just moving towards and skin just 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.200 shining and gleaming, and shade butter and cocoa butter just 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.040 you could smell it through the TV. And so we 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.440 loved up on each other in music video in that way. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.120 And then we were on set with each other to 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.280 learn how to work with each other, how to separate, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.680 how to co create and to create with each other 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.080 East Coast, West Coast, West Coast directors coming to the 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.840 East coast, East Coast directors going to the West coast. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.440 The travel that was happening, the shots that were stolen 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:41.440 by Hollywood, like you know, I am, the shots that 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.160 were stolen. Some say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:49.240 But you could find some money flattery with some deals 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:54.000 and reiduals and residual yes, so flatter us that way. 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.080 Stop stealing the shots. But that's what was happening during 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.600 that time. That's where I came up. I came up 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.360 through I was an advertising that was my day job, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:07.000 and at night and on the weekends advertising and Essence magazine. Yes, 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.360 and at night and on the weekends I was doing 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:15.080 those music videos and independent films with you and getting 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:20.240 all of that amazing, amazing backstory for my career and 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.839 my life experience. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.560 And then she left us, you guys, because Twinky is 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:31.520 Brooklyn do a die and she she is, So she 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.240 ventured out on the West Coast. We're not mad, you know, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.960 we supported her. But when she hit the West Coast, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.960 I don't think they knew and were ready and what 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.600 had happened then twiky. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.360 Had it happen. They were not ready for me, nor 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.680 did they care about me. They didn't care anything about 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.920 what I did, what my background was nothing. And I 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.360 was like booklyn Stall baby, like I was in it. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.800 Like I was like, I'm here, I'm here, La, hello me. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.560 And all my natural haird my twists and the whole thing. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:05.040 I'm here. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.079 And they were like. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.040 Are you what do you want? 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:14.280 Why are you here? Like those music videos, what are those? 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.280 That's nothing? So, you know, going back to my brother's apartment, 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:25.360 a dejected, rejected, just depressed, down, frustrated, bitter a little bit, 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.599 and I'm gonna lie bitter sleeping on his couch. He 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.679 had a Hollywood apartment on Yuka. I'll never forget it. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.959 And I told him what happened, and he was like, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.480 create the evidence. Like if they need a reel, create 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.000 a reel. Where's your credit list? 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:43.760 Make that up. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.960 People here don't know you, so you have to present 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.200 in the way that you want them to know you 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.480 and to see you. So I went and got a 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.440 reel put together of all the music videos that I cast. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:00.840 I created a credit list, and I interviewed and got 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:06.000 the job working on Moesha season four, which was amazing. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.120 Wasn't there for long six months, you know, because I'm 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.200 the queen of getting fired. Y'all don't even understand how 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.680 could get fired from a job. It became commonplace at 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.320 that point because his personality is so big and you 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:24.200 just can't. Yeah, but I worked for a casting director 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.040 and a black production that is Moesha. I was on 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.320 the Sunset Gower lot. And let me just tell you, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.520 back in the nineties, the Sunset Gower lot was like 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:41.240 going to HBCU. It was like a black college campus 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:48.120 because it was Moesha. It was in the house right 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:54.400 Wayn's Brothers all right lot, so I mean black folks 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:56.600 where it. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.120 Was so beautiful. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.720 And then of course once a week would have whatever 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:01.720 we wanted for lunch. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.719 So Waya's brothers was. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.360 Always hiring woodies and that's a barbecue spot. And they 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.360 would show up and bring those big like burner thingies, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.960 like just the big cookers, and the smoke was everywhere 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.559 and we could all smell it. We could all smell 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.480 on the lot, and we were like somebody's having somebody's 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:26.880 having woodies. We were just you know, because it was 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.559 the barbecue spot. And then you figure out, Okay, who 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.160 do you know at that who do you know on 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:36.040 that show that you will play? So but casting that 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.920 show was amazing because I got to cast Big pun on. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.160 Ball on Moesha. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.040 I have a picture with a Big Pun and I 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.240 in a golf cart because that's how he got around. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.960 That's how he got around the set in a golf cart. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.959 And I helped facilitate. Me and my assistant we facilitated 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.880 getting him on the show in that short period of time. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.920 And yeah, it is amazing. That was my first. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.120 Now were we was Evel we Eve wasn't on the 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.240 set then, right, or all of us our show wasn't 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.199 there because no I was there. So we came after 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.839 you guys because it still was when I was over there. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:21.360 It's still was that HBCU. And this is the deal 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.880 which I love, right, is that when you think about 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.520 the writers on your show, on the wig Ins and 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.640 all of them they were like probably interns assistance. Now 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:36.280 chet Kenya Bears, you know he was on one of 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.680 those shows. And now I'm. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:42.319 Sure I'm sure Maara Mara Brockett. Tara wasn't a Keel then, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.199 but she was a supervising producer. She was a writer 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.280 on Malisha when I got there season four, she was 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:52.560 supervising uh supervising writer or something to that effect. So 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.480 it was a book from a writer. So when was 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:01.000 there Stan Lathan and Uh and Kirk Notut, Kurt Farquar, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:01.800 Ralph Farquhar. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:02.800 Yeah. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.040 So, and then I was there when they created The Parkers, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:13.600 using Masha's last episode to introduce so they would use 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.760 the last episode of a show that they were on 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.200 to introduce the next the next series that they were pitching, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.520 Get Addie Here is Smart. It was very fun, very 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.160 like a backdoor pilot in the same we had to 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.360 be we had to be innovative because remember there was 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.840 a lot of crossing over to Martin and all these different. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:37.200 Shows, which was really great. I also want to say that, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.800 you know, in terms of Tweaky making that reference to 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.800 being fired, I don't know of those experience because that 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.840 was not in my experience with her. However, I do 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:51.920 know am speaking to a producer years ago and Twinky 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.360 was either getting ready to go on the project because 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.320 you didn't get fired on that but one of the 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.760 producers was like, she is profitive. She I said, Tweaky, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:06.720 let her be. She's very opinionated. She knows what she 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:12.080 wants and what's best for the project. And I have 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.880 to say mad respect for that, because a lot of 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.520 times that's what a casting director does. I always say, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.680 we highly recommend, we strongly suggest, and we beg and 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:28.520 we plead. And then the directors there they're crackheads right 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.320 because they're like, I should have I should have hired 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.680 barb lords when you when you go right. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.320 And they still are friends, yes, exactly. They still do 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.760 that to this day. They're like, oh, I should have 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.680 I should have could have world it. I'm like, yeah, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.520 I tried to tell you, but you weren't listening. I 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.840 realize now that I was producing all those years ago. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.520 Yes, that's what I was going to say. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.040 I was producing all those years ago, and I kind 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.800 of sold myself short. And one of the things that 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.040 I feel like the mental warfare that happens with us, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.120 with black people in particular, but black and brown people 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:14.119 are the Moorish Americans. There's a lot of visual warfare 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.160 that's happening to us. They give something a title and 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.160 then they put a white man or a white woman 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:24.400 above that title picture photo, and so then you think 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.640 subliminally that, oh, I couldn't possibly be doing that person's job, 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.760 so subliminally I must be an assistant to the or 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.680 an associate to the but I couldn't possibly And all 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:39.560 the while, talent shows and Easter shows at the churches, 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.600 and you were producing, You were a pastomer, design, you 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.680 were makeup, you were hair, You did all of those 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.880 things on that level at the church, at the mosque, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:53.240 at the astro, anywhere you were doing at the community center. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.160 You are producing, you are directing, you are hair, makeup, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.320 you are catering. All of those titles belong to you, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.200 belong to us, just so you know. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.760 And this was the other thing, Twinkie, because back in 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.600 the day, and I love when you were talking about 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.200 independent film, we were much more communal. And the thing 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.000 is is that even though our jobs and the title 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.679 with casting, we would pick up an apple box. We 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.200 would you know, if we had to do some sort 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.080 of styling on the set, we would do that as well. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:28.160 So I feel like you're right. We had film school training, 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:35.040 which is encompasses everything. And that's why in they say 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:40.720 that casting directors, most casting directors transition into producers. But 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.320 as you transition into a director. What was that like 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.320 for you? Because this is what I think, because I 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.760 want to play with my friends. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:51.200 Did direct? 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:56.399 Okay, But as a casting director, do you hire director 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.800 and let her do her job? Because you know you 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:01.760 are already know you know what I'm saying. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:08.560 How is that transition? Yeah, it's it's you caught me. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:14.280 It's challenging. I end up like, looking over the show, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:15.240 You're gonna pick that one? 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:16.119 You sure? 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.720 Is that your choice? Okay? 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.720 I like that one right there too, And I'm gonna 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.119 let you do your job though, But yeah, that's me. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.600 I'm just like I can imagine. Yeah, that's that's kind 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.560 of me. And I know the casting directors that I hire, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:41.560 they are sick of me because I'm just like where 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.520 I would have and I could have and when I did, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.320 and they're like, listen, lady, are you doing this job 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.359 or am I doing this job? You go direct, I'll 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.960 be over here getting your cast together. So I do 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.919 make my lists and then I just kind of move on, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.879 and I do realize that, you know, each one of 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.040 us have a particular way of casting a project, and 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.720 we bring a particular we bring a particular set of 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:13.760 skills to said project and passion and so not everybody's 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.199 going to do it the way that I do it, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.159 But just as long as I get the result that 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.080 I need to exactly, that's the most important thing. So 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:25.080 and right now, directing and executive producing, it's my passion. 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.360 So yes, but I still pay attention. So now I'm 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.879 watching films and I'm looking at the shots and the 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:36.639 locations and the style, you know, and the tone, and 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.840 then the second time, I look at the cast. So 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.840 back then I would look at the cast first. I 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.399 look at everything else first and the cast second. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:52.600 Yes, Now in the in are you more interested in 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:58.040 creating and writing your own projects tapping into other outlets? 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.200 And how do you think about that? 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:06.639 I currently am writing my own project, but there are 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:11.960 projects that I am really interested in, and I'm interested 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.320 in working on those as well. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:14.400 So it's both. 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.280 I'm I'm interested in working on both things at once. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.359 But I don't know if I want to continue to write. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.160 I want to get this one project, this passion piece 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.480 out of my body, and then I want to move 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.919 on because there are so many other stories that I 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.199 want to tell. So yeah, I'm going to focus on 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.440 getting this one project out of my body, and I've 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.880 been taking a lot of classes online at Collab Sundance Collab, 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.280 so it's helping me a lot with my writing. Yeah, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.320 writing correct, that's crazy. 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.960 Yes, So as a as a director, yes, what are 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.680 some of the tips and advice that you would give 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.160 actors from that point of view? 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.400 Oh well, okay, that's a great question. One of the 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.960 things that I noticed that actors want someone else to 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:08.639 be in charge of is their own continuity. And I 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.400 think actors need to know and be in charge of 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.240 their own continuity. Like if you know, when. 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.200 You walked over to that table and picked up. 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.800 That pen and started using it to make your point 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:22.680 when you were talking, or you know. 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.320 Or whatever it is. 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.520 If you if you walked over and picked it up, 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.840 and while you were talking, you use that and then 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.840 you don't do it again, and the next take this 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.560 it's not gonna and you start using your hand and 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.320 it's like, no, wait a minute, you had to yeah, 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.960 you know, and you need to remember that if you 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.600 went right, left, right, sit, then you have to go 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.639 right left right sit each take until we get to 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.560 the medium or the close up where you just sit 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.639 in or we capture you already seated so there are 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.399 some of those things that I feel like or don't 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:02.720 add things into your scene that are going to change 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.399 during the scene, Like if your wine glass was full 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.040 and by the time we get to the third or 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.000 fourth take, you got. 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.320 No this is how bluebirds happen, you guys, or your 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:24.679 cigarette was you just lit it? I see Tweaky is 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.680 saying this, you guys, because she's seen it. It's happened. 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.320 That's why she's telling you guys this, and you guys 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.560 need to take heed I have. It helps. 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.520 It just helps to keep things, you know, like there 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.240 are a lots on certain sets. Sure, there are a 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.760 lot of people keeping your script supervisor, there are a 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:44.000 lot of people keeping tabs on it. But when you're 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.200 on a smaller, more independent production, a lot of times 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.800 everybody's doing two or three jobs anyway. So it helps 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.480 to move us forward more quickly and efficiently if you 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.159 remember those things that you did and so that we 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:00.080 don't have to go back to the videotape or go 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.880 back to the shot. You know, the camera and did 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.600 she pick up? Did you do right hand or the 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.679 left hand? Was it you was her collar up? Was 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:13.040 her collar down? Or what happened In my last film, 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.240 we shot the car scenes. We were getting ready to 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:21.200 move on, and then it hit me, did. 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.239 They have their seat belt on? Were the seat belts on? 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:26.960 Did y'all did we have the seat belts on in 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.920 the shot before we move on? 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:30.000 Seat belt? 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.080 And we went and looked and sure enough they were 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:34.680 no seat belts. 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:39.200 Wow. Wow, And you can't do that in film television. 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.240 You cannot shoot it if there are no You're going 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:49.440 to get flagged flag on the plan. Yeah, they yes 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.760 they are. The network's going to be like, so, do 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.640 you have a shot with the seat belt? Is there 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.199 a shot? I need a shot with the seat belt? Like, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:02.840 you can't car running shots without seat belts, right, solo. 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:09.560 I've never ever heard ever twinkie that advice before about continuity. 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.720 So that and and it's probably because actors do rely 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.840 on the script supervisor to do that. Back in the day. 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.000 That's when we have polaroids, you guys, And we have 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:24.160 this big thick silver ring and all the parts that 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:30.199 ring with a whole, Yes we have, so we can 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.800 match stuff. But you guys, that is some of the 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.760 best advice I've ever heard, because that is so true. Yes, 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:42.720 I've never nobody ever talks about constituity. So I had 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:46.280 Bitty Boom earlier this year on the show Yes We 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.199 Love Bitty and another music video direct that that's what 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.720 I was gonna say. I know you work with Britty 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.879 music video director. One of the things that Benny said 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:03.520 is that actors are getting one maybe too maybe too definitely, 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.080 you know, So if you have, what advice would you 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.560 give to actors to be prepared because we no longer 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.439 come on set, go on our trailer warming up and 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.439 all that. I keep telling actors, you got to come 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.080 on Volcanic, honc. There's no warm ups anymore. 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:22.480 You do and you will well. 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.360 As a director, what would you tell them? 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.160 Prepare, Prepare in the car, Prepare before you get there, Prepare, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.640 have your quiet moment as you're driving in Now it's 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.119 not the time to be, you know, blasting loud music, 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.000 of course, unless you have to get amped up, like 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.200 now is the time for you too, And that should 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.480 be part of your practice anyway, is quiet moments. You know, 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.520 part of your practice should be, you know, some level 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.840 of meditation to center yourself so that when you get 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.879 on set you're not pulled into everybody else's chaos, because 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.600 once you get on set, it's chaotic, like everything's moving 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.920 at lightning speed and everything needs to be done yesterday. 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:03.679 So you have got to do You've got to I 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.280 always come to set, Okay, the call is, the crew 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.000 call is at eight, the cast call is at nine. 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:14.479 I'm there at six thirty or seven because I need 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.119 to center myself A and B. I want the first 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:23.480 cup of coffee. I'll just be real with it. I 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.200 need the first cup the. 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:31.040 Freshly remember that, y'all, the first cup of coffee. 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.399 But also too, I need to make my space. I 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.240 set up whatever, I set up my area where I'm 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.800 going to and I need to just like, okay, let me, 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.960 let me center, let me breathe, let me focus, let 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.840 me get prepared. And then once that happens, you've got 0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.800 to be flexible and cunning. Yeah, be flexible. I know 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.359 how you practice it at home. And then here comes 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.800 the notes and the notes and the pink pages, the 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.640 blue pages and the yellow page. It ain't come and 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:01.520 it's like, okay, so we changed this into this. This 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.639 is now going to be that we're moving this shot 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.120 here and because it's raining tomorrow, we're going to bring 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:13.000 that shot up and you've got to be flexible, hand cunning. 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.160 And remember, yeah, we did that on a set one 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.480 set one time, and everyone was sitting in the church 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.240 on the night before Christmas with Kirk Franklin, Nateriy Naughton, 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:28.400 and Luke James. And on a Friday, we were supposed 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:32.760 to shoot that next Monday a scene and most people 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.280 prepare the night before for the next day's scenes so 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.240 they have their scenes for the next day. Well, on 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.520 that Thursday, we found out. On Friday, we found out 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:48.200 that Friday's scenes were being moved to Monday. Because Monday 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.040 was moved to Friday. Monday was supposed to be an 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.280 exterior and the blue screen was supposed to be used, 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.520 and we had to create snow in August in Atlanta, 0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.680 and it was going to rain. 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:01.560 You can't use a blue. 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.160 Screen exterior and the fake snow turns basically into gum 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.240 like when water hits it, so you can't do So 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.080 everyone's sitting in the hallway that was our holding area. 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.680 The whole cast is sitting in the hallway learning their 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.960 lines for the next for the next scene that was 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.080 supposed to be on Monday, but which is now going 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.600 to be because of that, so things change on the fly, 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.760 but they got quiet, they got still. I instructed the 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.480 crew to be as quiet as possible. Our cast is 0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.160 trying to learn their lines because we had to make 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.720 some changes, and just to work as quietly as they 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.480 possibly can so that we could and they pulled it off. 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.280 My cast beautiful. 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.160 Of course, I'm just a two slasch of you. This 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.400 went by too fast, but I'm going to give you 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.360 all four minutes please. We're here to talk about Twinki's 0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.920 new book called Let's Link. Let's talk about it, and 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.080 she has a plethora You guys need to tell them 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.040 where they can go and get her other books as well. 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.160 Oh yeah, let's link. Oh my god, let's link. So 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.120 let me tell you the impetus of Let's Link. I 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.640 got a DM, I get dms a lot that are 0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.760 just completely out of pocket. And it's usually young people. 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.400 They want what they want. They don't want to they 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.600 just want what they want. They're like, here's what I need, 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.040 here's what I want. I want you to look at 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.240 my pictures. I want you to tell me what's working 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.920 and are you casting anything. I want you to link 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.200 me with or introduce me to your family member, your brother, 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.840 your cousin, or whoever it is, like, I get a 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.960 lot of those, and I realized, first I did, I 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.440 did a reel about it using a Q tip and 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.760 I tribe. I use tribe, and I did a reel 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.680 about it that got about I think it's got about 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:54.520 sixteen thousand views right now now, yes, And then I decided, 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.520 I said, you know what, instead of just getting upset 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.440 about it or frustrated, why don't I get them the 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:06.000 tools or the information a monetize it, because you know 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.160 people don't respect it. If it's free, they need to 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:13.880 pay for it. But make it available to everyone. And 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.800 you know it's not expensive. It's seven ninety nine. It's 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.520 a fifteen page ebook with lots of visuals and positive 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.760 sayings and vibes and colors and all of that. But 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.120 I also give you examples of dues and don'ts, and 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.560 those were real. Those are real dudes and don'ts in 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.920 my book. Those are real, real dms or emails that 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:38.160 I have received. Will yes, so when you see them, 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.960 you will understand. And some people who I already know 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.200 who read it, they said, oh my gosh, I did 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:44.920 all of those things that you said. 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:49.360 Don't do Wow, that's so good. I'm so I'm happy 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:53.320 for the book because you know, I've in my experience 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.760 this is the deal. Like you and I came up 0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.840 at a time where there were very few people that 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.960 look like us, and we did and we boss because 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.760 Twicky was a part of bringing in choices that the 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.880 director did not ask for, but she believed in and 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:12.920 stood by. Okay. So the thing is is that when 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.239 I had an invite to a showcase last week, and 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:21.400 I would have gone, unfortunately the weather did stop me 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.240 because you know, arthritis is real, but anyway, that doesn't 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.520 prevent my life from going on. But it was the 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.760 way in which I was approached. It was, hey, Tracy, 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:36.160 you know like to invite you to the showcase, and 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.320 this is the information. I said, okay. So I responded 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:44.240 and said have you read my bio and said yeah, 0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.520 I know you have a podcast. So my head spun 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.200 around like the Exorcist, and then I found my stillness 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.840 and peace, and I said, what I need you to 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.520 do is do your due diligence on anybody that you 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:59.640 asked to be a judge on your panel. That's really 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.760 import So I sent him my bio. He read my bio, 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.200 then it was miss Tracy because I said to him, 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.240 you're standing on my shoulders. I'm not standing on your shoulders. 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.920 And the young people need to do their due diligence 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:15.880 and respect the people that came and carved. Like literally, 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.880 guys when we came up. You know those machines that 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.680 break cement, break grounds, That's what we were. 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.160 Yes, that's how we can. That's a great working through. 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.040 We were like that jack knife that. 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:33.080 Yes, jack knife, Yes, So please don't make me feel 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.560 like Twinkie and I broke our backs for nothing. Oh 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:40.080 my gosh, that's the just himvv dot covas. That's all 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:40.640 I'm saying. 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:45.480 That's and they hit you with the get too familiar 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:50.000 too quickly, and it was foundary. I'm like, I am 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.360 old enough to be your mother or grandmother. You will 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.320 address like excuse me, miss Twinkie. To you, I'm like, 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:57.920 what's happened here? 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:03.200 What's going nobody's teaching to nobody like and and and 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.320 and That's why I feel like it's not all the time, 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.120 but most of the time. It is my job to 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.880 say that. Because I said to him after he read 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.360 my bio, I said this is a teachable moment for you, 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.040 right right, because this is gonna help because the next 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:18.719 time you approach the money, you're going to do your 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.120 due diligence. Right because somebody told me that I came 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:26.200 up with you know, mister Oslie Davis and miss Ruby 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.400 d those were my mentors when I landed in New York. 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.760 So you know, they showed me a whole other way. 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:38.000 Oh. I first of all, if I get a written 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:44.000 note anymore, like at that's that's huge. A written note 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:49.680 or a card postcard. Oh, it's just like mana from him. 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.760 I'm just like holding on to it, like yeah, it's 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.760 so precious. Yeah, but right now, okay, I have to 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.480 wrap it up. And they need to network. So the 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.640 network portion, that's what whether in person or via DM 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.680 or email, they needed to learn how to network. So 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.960 I created Let's Link and it's about social media and 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.640 in person so it's helpful. It's seven ninety nine and 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.719 it's on my website, twinkybird dot com. 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.080 All right, you guys, twinkybird dot com. Everybody is going 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.080 to go there today and purchase a book. Today is 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.200 less linkeday, So everybody got to go and get less 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.919 link okay, and I'm gonna check it with y'all too. 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.160 Now we're getting ready to go into our questions segment. 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.440 We're going to bring on Elsa Lathan. You know, Elsa. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:40.120 Elsa is going to introduce us to our straight out 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.160 to lumni who are going to ask questions to Twinky Bird. 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:44.240 I'm Twinky. 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.920 I so many gems as usual, Thank you so much. 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:50.160 I'm so glad. 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:55.600 So today we have two actors who have questions for you. 0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.800 We have mister Josan Robinson and missus Janelle hal Reagan. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.360 You can come on. 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.799 Hi, just hi, Janelle, Hello, and. 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.320 We will do latest first. So Janelle, you're up first 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.839 with your question. Hello, how are you? 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.560 Mister see you, Miss Twinkie, how are. 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.240 You doing well? How are you? 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.920 I am well, I'm very excited to be here. I 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.759 love Miss Tracy so much, so I'm just thankful. And 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.200 you know, I'm gonna jump right into my question. 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:30.120 Uh. 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.040 First, I do have the e book. 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:33.839 I do. 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:35.560 I have read the e book and I've been on 0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.560 your Instagram since before COVID and I was watching them 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.440 tell them Tuesdays and I was in your comment section 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.120 like okay, so this is how you do it and 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.400 you've response to me, and I'm like, okay, great, I 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.560 do know right now we are in the middle of, 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.480 you know, the strike, and I. 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.440 Think it's very we're in the end of the strike. 0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:00.239 Yeah I did. 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.640 I just read an article about WGS. Yes, and I 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.520 do know that For me, this year has been it 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.200 has been very important to focus on being of service, 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.239 and that's something that you do talk about. And for me, 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.239 I don't just want to be of service like in 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.960 a sense of you know, well, how can I support online, 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.399 but to actually be physically present. So for me, I'm 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.720 really looking for, you know, that circle of just learning 0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.759 and how do you do that? On social media? When 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.000 you reach out to people to be of service? What 0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.319 is something or what is a good way to reach 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.160 out to somebody and say, hey, you know, whatever you need, 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.040 I'm here for you. I don't know what it is, 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:40.520 but I just want to help you. 0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:41.200 Good question. 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.600 So, yeah, that's a good question. First of all, make 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.520 sure that that person is in your area so that 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.080 you can actually literally physically be of service. So that 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:55.840 would be first. Second, lurk lurk with a purpose, because 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.759 everyone's telling you all their business on social media, so 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.759 they're letting you know what they need need you just 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:05.160 aren't looking. You can't let You have got to be 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:10.359 in charge of your mind and your attention span. So 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:16.200 pay attention. That is the best currency. Ever. When you 0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:21.200 pay attention to people and they receive that attention, they're like, oh, 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.879 you did your homework. You scrolled. That was far down 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.720 in my feed, but you scrolled. You did some work here. Okay, 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.240 you dug in deep. You realize that I'm having challenges 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.719 walking the dog and taking my kids to school and 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.040 returning emails and you know, or something to that effect, 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.920 and then you focus on filling that gap and naming it. 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.680 I see that you're at you having some challenges with emails. 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.200 I can do virtual or I can come and respond. 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.319 You can create a template for me and I can 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.319 fill it in and respond for you whatever you need. 0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.560 Make sure you're c seed whatever it is that you 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.880 need me to do in that area. I can do that. 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.200 Or you could walk the dog like whatever that is, 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.600 you know what I mean. I love fresh air and sunshine. 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.920 I could give the dog a walk for you. Give 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.480 you time to take a hot shower and do some 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.200 deep breathing and have a cup of coffee for yourself, 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.239 you know what I mean. So if you want to 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.839 be a physical service, be a physical service. But they 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.759 already told you what they need, you just need to 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.279 find it. I like that. 0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.080 Thank you, welcome, great. 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:32.400 Question, awesome, And next up we have Josahn Robinson. 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.640 Absolutely amazing to be sitting here with you and I 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.960 on the same screen. Nobody is going to believe me 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.080 when I tell them this, so I'm waiting so I 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:46.160 can show them something. 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:47.799 Appreciate that. 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:52.040 But as I have been sitting here, and of course everyone, 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.400 as far as I know, everyone in the world should 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.320 know who you are. And I'm actually from the generation. 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.840 So as you were talking, all of the stuff that 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.600 you was saying and everything that you've been a part 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.040 of is literally my generation and you know, bringing back. 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:06.520 All kinds of stuff. 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.160 So I'm sitting here this big fan and a geek 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.040 at the same time. 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.200 But uh, and I'm sure you probably did this question 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:14.560 a lot. 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.279 But as you was, you know, talking, one word that 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:22.560 kept jumping into my head was accountability. Yeah, and you 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.640 know from like you said, like you mentioned the Moesias 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:27.399 and the food bille stations and stomped the yard every 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:28.680 many James and all of that. 0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:33.319 Different type of stuff, American skin whichever, Yeah, it was. 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:34.200 That was amazing. 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.919 And then, like I said, we could go on and on, 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.080 and I really had to dig deep and I was 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.040 like mynd oke my foot in my mouth. But even 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.560 with the baby on Ready to Die, I was like, 0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.719 you know, with that whole casting and everything like that 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.640 with Bad Boy, I was like, my God, like literally 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.160 my whole blue you know, everything I've been a part of, 0:39:55.360 --> 0:40:00.279 She's behind all my stuff. So I say all that 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.160 to say, you know, as you are, you know, do 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.520 sing and direct thing and the whole nine, how much 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:12.680 and how big the importance it is for you to 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.880 be accountable for seems like telling our story and representing 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.000 because you were sort of mentioning it, but it seems 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:24.000 like your journey in the industry has all had to 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.520 do with representing, like I said, black and brown people 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:31.840 and being you know, a pioneer or a trailblazer for 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.520 telling our story and being accountable that we are seen 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.960 and heard and shown and showcased and all of that 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.880 stuff in the propert way, because like they'll say it, 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:44.400 you are directly behind, in my opinion, all of the 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.960 things that when we look back on our generation and 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.520 over the last you know, several decades, and our culture. 0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.520 You're the data repeter over and over and over again, 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.960 like you are the person responsible. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:00.960 For our culture. So how does that feel to you? 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.719 And and you know what is you know, what is 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.640 your sense of you know, you know, taking accountability for us? 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:08.120 Honestly? 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:17.200 Oh, it's true, Tiki, It's true. 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:23.719 It's the most important. 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:24.440 Thing to me. 0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:29.600 There is no just in front of black. There is 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:37.160 black there is our stories. There is beauty in us 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:53.200 and culture and sensitivity and strengths and vulnerability. It is 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:59.000 my honor to represent us in the way that I 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.520 have been able to do. And because I come from 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.200 to amazing parents, I always want to make sure that 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:14.319 the black man, that the head of our household, is 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:19.319 represented properly and well, and that even if there is 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.480 a challenge in our family or in our community or 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:27.680 with him, that it comes back around so that we 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:33.600 see if a black man has fallen, or another black 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.319 man picks it up, or if that black man can't 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.640 pick it up, then we have another. But it's so 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.560 incredibly important to me. I have a black man that's 0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.400 a brother. I have a black beautiful black man in 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.279 my life that it's so important to me to make 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.320 sure that I hold up black love and black family 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:59.319 and black positive that black positivity or as my brother 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:04.399 Cush would say, and Moorish Moorish Americans and too. As 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:09.600 I'm growing in my own education, I just focus on 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.880 infusing it in everything, in every aspect and everything that 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:19.719 I do. Because we are my why. We just are. 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.160 We are my why. And like I said earlier with Tracy, 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.959 we were loving up on each other in music video 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.840 so much so that those shots, those slow modes, those 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.600 beauty shots that our brothers and sisters were getting in 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.560 those short films to music, those were our commercials of ourselves. 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.160 Like I stopped watching all of the different kinds of 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:47.200 makeup and hair and whatever stuff that was on television 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.400 in the eighties and the nineties, and I just focused 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:54.640 on our beauty and our togetherness and our family. And 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:59.040 so it is we are my why, and it's the 0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:02.360 most important why there is to me. So thank you 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:03.160 for that question. 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.040 Thank you so much. 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:09.560 That's a beautiful question. Jason, thank you, your son, thank you, Jane, 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:16.080 thank you, Elsa, absolutely, thank you, Twinky, Like this is 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:18.759 you guys, this is why I had the introduction to us. 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:23.040 Oh Joe, don't be delivered. All right, get back, because 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.160 we're going to come back. We're still blessed with the 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:30.560 phenomenal Tracy Twinkie Bird, casting director, producer, director, writer, author 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:35.919 and spiritual being a light a light. We'll be back 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.600 from the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore, and 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:43.520 we're going to come back with Class in Session. Welcome 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:47.080 back to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore, 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:52.960 and you still have the presence the blessing, be grateful. 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:58.120 Tracy Tweaky Bird is here with us. Now we have 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.880 two of our spirit Actor Alumna Elsa is going to 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.080 introduce them and I will read the narrative for the 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.479 film for the scene. Once the film is over, these 0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:14.160 actors are going to be blessed with gems and feedback 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:18.200 from Twinkie Bird. And understand she is brutally artist and 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:22.759 that's why I love her. Okay, Elsa, who we got Yes. 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:27.880 So today on Class in Session we have two Spirited 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:33.840 Actor alumni, mister Josan Robinson and Miss Janelle Hall Reagan. 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:39.200 So on action, we're ready action. 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:45.560 That's not the news. Written by Dana kill exterior home 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:50.360 front sidewalk day Amara late thirties stands in front of 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.920 a quaint home with a picket stock with a picket fence. 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:59.920 A car approaches. Amera sees the purple, lifts led and waves. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.560 The car pulls towards her and stops. Interior Gray Kia 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:10.520 Soul continuous. Joshua early twenties adjusted Mara and swipes his 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:14.839 phone to pick up passenger. Amara America's in the car, 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:16.920 buckles her seatbelt and settles in. 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.520 Good morning, Is it my room? 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:24.279 Yeah? 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:31.320 Yeah, it is, good morning, host? Way am I saying 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:31.880 that correctly? 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.520 Actually, you got it perfect? To be honest. How you 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:36.759 doing today? 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:42.359 It's going well, It's going well considering Yeah, I know right. 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.439 Mean listen, it is on every news outlet. Every time 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.080 I Google search on my phone. It's a new development. 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.480 Yeah, exactly, trust me. Every time I get on it 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:56.040 seems like it's the only thing people. 0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.520 Are talking about, exactly. I mean, I don't want the 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.560 news where I turned. I also don't want to look 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.640 like the person that has no idea what's going on? 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.640 Exactly. I did a Google source this morning. Guess what 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:13.520 popped up this whole? We call on beef beef, be beef? Like, 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.839 what am I supposed to do now? If I want 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:17.719 to get something to eat? What do I go for 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.359 a nice steak? What rest of on? I tell you 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.160 this whole food crisis statements? 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.560 Wait wait, Mirror shifts in her seat and leans forward 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:27.000 a little. 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:30.200 There's a recall on beef. 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:35.439 Yeah, it's been a recall for like the past week. 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.279 I mean it's only the news. I mean everybody's talking 0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:39.719 about it. 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:43.120 Could you eat chicken? 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:48.360 Chicken, chicken, foul fish, all of that stuff's been on. 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:50.359 We called for what the past month? 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.799 What I mean, Well, we've been in a crisis for 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.680 almost a week, all because scientists have said due to 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.399 the past what three earthquakes, that there's a possible eight 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:03.400 point three tomorrow? 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:09.680 Like, wait, tell about so you're trying to tell me 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.080 we could die for I could die tomorrow? 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:18.160 Oh who are going to trembles? Probably not okay? 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:25.440 But uh, do you have your earthquake water? 0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.360 I got this bottle water and I got a gallon 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:34.160 at home. Nobody's saying anything about earthquakeer. I was going 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:35.440 to go to the shop this morning. 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.359 As Joshua and a mayor ride pass the supermarket, there 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.440 are long lines of people waiting to go inside. Customers 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.400 can be seen running to their cars with shopping carts 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:51.040 full of toilet paper and paper tasks. All these people 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.319 are panicking over shortages. 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.560 Oh my god, like they're going crazy, Like what's going on? 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.920 Well, I've been stopping them all week. Joshua stops the 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.640 car and he turns into the grocery store. He swerves 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.520 to avoid two people wrestling over a twenty four roll 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.960 pack of toilet paper. A homeless person sneaks a gallon 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.239 of water from the shopping cart of one of the 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:16.840 parking lot wrestlers. 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:23.000 This is not my stock, what is mine? 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.520 I don't have any earth water, toilet paper, toilet tissue, 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.400 I don't have anything. And my phone it just wain't 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.880 said chicken was good now, So I gotta. 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:38.080 Go vegan and and Whole Foods is a block away? 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:39.040 Where are you going? 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:39.759 Chix? 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.200 Is why Uber gets one star? I'm walking just on 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:51.120 me big all right, Twiggy, it's on you. 0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:53.960 That was That was great? 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:55.640 Can you hear me? Yes? 0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.719 That was I love that scene. That's adorable, And I 0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:05.240 know I believe I know the writer. I enjoyed that scene. Okay, 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:10.040 So here's the thing to me that feels like, and 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:12.000 you tell me what you think, but it feels like 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:16.800 it's two people who are going through life really quickly, 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:18.920 the exchanging information. 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.879 It's supposed to have some level of humor to it. 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:28.680 As well, and it almost can feel like and for 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:34.200 lack of a better it can almost feel like Frasier Seinfeld, any. 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:35.800 Of those types of shows. 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:43.680 Right yeah, right now, it feels a little a little 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:48.759 bit too like you're dragging. It's dragging, and it's dragging 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.600 on your end, Janelle. I want you to I want 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:53.600 you both to pick it up. 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.840 Janelle. I feel like I need to see. 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.359 Where you're coming from and where you're going. Where are 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:02.160 you coming from? 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:06.719 In your head, I'm coming from the house. Uh, this 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:09.400 is my last trip before I'm done stocking up for 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:12.200 the rest of the week. I am tired of everything 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:13.640 that's going on with the news. I just want to 0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.920 get to my destination and get in the house and 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:16.680 go about my day. 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.799 And so you're and where are you going to the 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:20.320 Whole Foods? 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:21.040 Is that where you're at? 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.239 It on a Whole Foods to just stock up on 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:28.600 a little tofu turkey and some new non dairy, non gmo. 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:30.520 She's addressing from my salads. 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.560 Okay, So if you are a person that has all 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.600 of those things in your mind, what kind of personality 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:40.279 do you have? If you're looking for tofurky and non 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.920 gmo and all of those particular things. I need to 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.920 see a very particular person. I need you to choose 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:51.120 that type of thought process and personality. 0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:52.120 Who is she? 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.440 What does she have in her house? Where is she going? 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.520 How is she? How does she handle that type of 0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.120 that type of thing? Is she a list person? 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.600 Do you have a list? Is a list on your phone? 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.600 Are you looking at information? Are you swiping? Are you 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:08.680 I need to see all of those things or else? 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.520 It's just a scene where two people are talking and 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.279 that are those are the particular things that take you 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.759 over the top as far as me being interested in 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.560 that person, you made strong character choices, and I didn't 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:24.000 see any strong character choices. When you think about Seinfeld 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:29.280 or Frasier, each of those characters have strong character choices. 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.520 If you are Niles, you are OCD. You wipe the 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.280 seat before you sit down. You have all of those 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:39.160 particular things that you do and that you are before 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.319 you get in a place before you, I mean, are 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.279 you this type of person that had wipes? Are you 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:46.360 looking around at your environment? Does this car even look safe? 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.160 Like all of those things should be coming oozing out 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:54.120 of you? And for you, Joshua, oh, I'm sorry, Josan, 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.800 I apologize for you. Am I saying that correctly? Is it? 0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:01.719 Joseph jo Son? For you, Joe San, thank you very 0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:05.960 much for I want to feel like who are you? 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.160 Are you a dad? Are you a like? 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:09.920 Who are you? 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:11.719 And what are the what is the reason why you're 0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:15.560 driving Uber? And all of those things? And then of course, 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:19.839 you guys, you kind of trigger each other. You got 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.200 bad news, and you've got bad news. You got you 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:24.239 don't know about this, well, you don't know about that. Well, 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.080 you know the water isn't goga. You know, you got 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.879 to get those that ad banter should be coming back 0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.759 and forth really quickly. And the reactions to that, like 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.080 why don't I know about that? All of that stuff? 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.480 I feel like I need to see it and who 0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:39.560 are you? Why are you? Why are you driving? 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:39.839 Uber? 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:40.320 Josan? 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:46.319 I see myself as being a younger person. Who is 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:46.759 you know? 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:51.880 More so on social media definitely with the phone always 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.680 in his hand. He's googling all the time, because he 0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.920 mentioned that about two or three times in the very beginning. 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:58.400 It is Google Google, So that's the only way he 0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:00.680 gets his information, which is also of the reason why 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:04.080 he doesn't know anything about his earthquake and everything like that. 0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:08.480 He knows about you know, whatever is you know, coming 0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:11.479 through on his phone, whatever is on the social media 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:16.000 black forms. He's young, and so that, you know, some 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:18.680 of the stuff is oblivious. At home, he's just got 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:22.960 water and probably got the hot dogs and some potato roads. 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:25.480 Probably all he's got. 0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:27.720 So I don't I don't see him with a family, 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.160 because with a family, I think he probably would know 0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:34.799 some of the more major issues and things like that 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:39.360 that's happening, you know, probably would be more prepared for 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.759 you know, earthquakes, and you know, he would have water 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.080 at home, you know, and like. 0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.879 That could be could be not where are you from, 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:55.360 just son, I'm from DC? And uh your background like family. 0:54:56.120 --> 0:55:00.520 Uh sick parent home, you know, middle class mm hmm. 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:09.880 Okay, so single currently you have single? Okay, so let's age. 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:17.040 Let's let's go age appropriate. Let's go age appropriate for you. Okay, However, 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.719 age appropriate single man is basically like a twenty year 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:26.280 old guy, like right, like, we're still doing bachelor's steak, 0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.399 which is cereal. We may still be doing. So you're 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:35.239 a little immature in that way of since you don't 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:38.200 have a life partner, that you only have to look 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.960 out for yourself. So there's only one of everything in 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:45.600 your place because there's only been you, so you only 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.439 have to look out for yourself. That's why you only 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.160 have one bottle of water, because it's all about me. 0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:55.960 So let's make him single, age appropriate, selfish, and immature. Okay, 0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:59.480 And yes you google because you've learned about Google for 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:04.399 maybe the young women that you date. Oo, the young 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.520 women that you date have turned you on to Google 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:09.719 and how to do your research, I like. And then 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:12.879 this pretty young thing gets in there and she's looking 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:14.920 at you like you a daddy, and you looking at 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:18.279 her like she's a you know, she's the next she 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.399 could be the next. And she's like, yeah, no, I'm 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.640 not that. I give you some information and yeah, you look, 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.959 you remind me of my dad kind of thing. Let's 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.640 mix it up in that way so that we can 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.080 add some layers to this so it doesn't just feel 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.840 like a scene. Let's make it a moment. 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:39.600 Can we do that? 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:40.560 What are your thoughts? 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.760 Well, my thought is this that Janelle and Jason tape 0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:48.319 this and we send that tape to you. Yes, that's 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.640 my thought. How about love it? How about y'all take 0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:54.400 all the notes that Twinkie gave you because they were brilliant, 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:57.600 and send that tape and show her. Let's not talk 0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:57.960 about it. 0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:00.000 Let's absolutely it was amazing. 0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:05.120 Oh okay, all right, so tweaky Twinkie. I'll give them 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.359 a couple of days. I'll get this tape and I'll 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:10.160 send it right to you and and their their resume 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:12.520 and photo will be along with that as well. 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:16.720 Sounds good, Okay, make strong choices. You'll be amazing. 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:20.560 Oh yay, this is great. 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:24.880 Okay, Ladies and gentlemen. I hate to let her go. 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:31.320 I hate to leave. Oh God, So that's okay because 0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:35.080 we go have conversations. H Ladies and gentlemen, you know, 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:39.080 want you to stand up and put your hands together 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:53.480 for the phenomenal, spectacular Jennaz loving and calm, patting director, producer, director, writer, author, extraordinary, 0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.280 spiritual human being, all of that wrapped up. She is 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:04.560 the sun. Let her shine Tracy, Twinkie Burner, thank you, 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:15.640 thanks standing, thank you, Thank you, Twinky and everybody go 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:20.080 to twinkiebird dot com pick up that book. Let's link. 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:24.040 Janelle has it. You could look up Janelle. She'll tell 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:26.320 you about it and tell you what she says. She 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:27.840 got a big old smile on the face. So we 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.960 already know, all right, and I'm waiting and I got byed, 0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.480 but we got to get our side by Tweaky, so 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.400 it's official. Okay, yeah, all right. So when we come 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.760 back on the Spirited Actor Podcast, I'm gonna give you 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:41.800 a Tweaky gave you. I'm gonna give you, guys, some love. 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.479 That's what I'm gonna give you. And now it's time 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:48.440 to give love. Don't sweat the small stuff. And guess what, 0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:51.720 it's all small stuff. I remember when that book came 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:55.480 out years ago. Don't sweat the small stuff. And what 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.959 my takeaway with that, It's more about our mental health, 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:04.160 you guys. We spend a lot of time replaying, reviewing 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.320 things that take us back into that anger, take us 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:11.320 back into that frustration, triggers us to be even more 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:17.360 angry and frustrated. It's all small stuff. In the bigger picture. 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:21.000 At the end of the day, you do the best 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:24.600 that you can and you help people in the best 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:32.640 ways that you can. The message love yourself, stop picking 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:35.840 on yourself. And because that's where we go first, we 0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:39.120 go to ourselves. All Right, you know I'm too sure, 0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:41.280 I don't have enough hair, I got too much here. 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:48.160 Whatever it is, don't sweat it, be grateful, trust the journey, 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:53.360 trust the process, and trust yourselves. Don't forget to look 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:56.280 out for us. On our new show, Inside the Black Box, 0:59:56.600 --> 1:00:00.439 my co host will be Joe the Legend Morton. It's 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:04.680 going to be the Spirited Actor Podcast on Steroids. We'll 1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:08.120 be streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted. 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:11.800 Thank you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:15.320 with me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:16.520 Spirited podcast. 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:17.280 Thank you.