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Speaker 1: So Stuff They Don't Want You To Know is a

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Speaker 1: we decided to look at the quote unquote real conspiracies,

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Speaker 1: It is where a younger version of our show attempts

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Speaker 1: in from UFOs two Ghosts and Government cover Ups. History

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Speaker 1: is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now

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Speaker 1: or learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Stuff they Don't want you to know

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Speaker 1: my name is Matt Frederick. Hey, Matt, I have a

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure everybody knows who you are, right, right, right? Uh,

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Speaker 1: that was where my manners. It's okay, jump right into

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Speaker 1: thanks to our Twitter and Facebook friend, uh Juan Gautier US.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're listening here. Uh handle one hit acquitta.

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Speaker 1: I think it is with two tease. I'm not sure anyway,

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