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Speaker 3: Welcome head. Final hour of the program tonight, Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: Show with Me Mike Carmon. Jason'll be back tomorrow, So

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Speaker 3: the Lakers game. We watched the Lakers that beating up

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Speaker 3: go up fifteen. Lebron James returned to the court, but

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Speaker 3: we're talking a lot about the National Football League, a

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Speaker 3: lot of college football as well, Rich But in the

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Speaker 3: NFL there's a team that we didn't discuss on the

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Speaker 3: NFC side that I think is moderately intriguing. And they

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Speaker 3: had a huge win on Monday Night Football. Now, their

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Speaker 3: opponent has plenty of storylines wrapped in itself, the Las

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Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders. But for the Dallas Cowboys, a thirty three

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Speaker 3: sixteen win. Yes we actually got a safety in that

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Speaker 3: game as well, seventeen point win and George Pickens and

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Speaker 3: that was short lived and they went on to dominate.

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Speaker 3: But as we look at the playoff picture in the NFC,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden we look at the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: at four five and one in the ten spot, behind

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Speaker 3: Carolina and the Detroit Lions both at six wins, So

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Speaker 3: the pesky tie coming into play. But for Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: he sounds like a kid who's already at Christmas with

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Speaker 3: what he's got cooking with his wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pumped up.

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Speaker 5: Look, you know, I never count out a team with

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Speaker 5: And I know that sounds ridiculous because we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott and everybody's got a variety of opinions about

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott. But when he turns it on, that guy

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Speaker 5: can threat a needle from forty yards away. He is

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Speaker 5: an absurd talent. Now is he consistent? Not consistent enough?

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Speaker 5: Does he protect the full ball well enough in clutch

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Speaker 5: spots sometimes? And you need to be better than a

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Speaker 5: that's part of the struggles, not all, but part of

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Speaker 4: That Dallas has had.

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Speaker 5: But Jerry Jones has I think, over the course of

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Speaker 5: his career overall, drafted pretty well as a general manager,

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Speaker 5: especially recently, say the past decade or so. He's done

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Speaker 5: a pretty good job in free agency. Overall, They've done

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Speaker 5: usually the type of player he doesn't let slip through

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Speaker 5: his fingers. But he's with Green Bay now, and we

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Speaker 5: know how that whole saga shook out prior to the season.

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Speaker 5: Do I look at the Dallas Cowboys as being a

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Speaker 5: potentially dangerous team. Yeah, but they got to start playing

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Speaker 5: defense against real teams. The Raiders can't fight their way

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Speaker 5: So I don't I don't see the Raiders heading in

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Speaker 5: In terms of Dallas, if they want to move upward,

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's the question the reinforcements that brought in. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I thought Jones's critique of George Pickens was really one

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Speaker 3: But as we move forward, you know, you can only

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Speaker 3: or decided to deal yourself and go Historically for Jerry

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Speaker 3: take the double digit win seasons that they've had with

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Speaker 3: that offense when it's cooking, Javonte Williams a fine pickup.

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott completing seventy percent of his throws with Pickens

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Speaker 5: Yeah, George Pickens right now, traded for a third and

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Speaker 5: he's having a season where just even like if you

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Speaker 5: You know, say he only catches I don't know, eighty

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Speaker 5: do you realize like you would trade a third, a fifth,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you'll give that up all day long.

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Speaker 5: So they to say they got pickens for a song

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Speaker 5: And like you said, the other bevy of talents around

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Speaker 5: down the stretch of the season division battles that they

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Speaker 5: in the middle near five hundred one, thing, he does

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Speaker 5: better than any other owner is he understands what the

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Speaker 5: So I'm sure they want to retain. And they've got

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Speaker 4: All of a.

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Speaker 5: Sudden, you're gonna hear Jerry Jones waxing even more poetic

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Speaker 3: No, And that becomes the fun part of the equation, right.

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Speaker 3: The Bogoletta being the agent of Micah Parsons certainly created

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Speaker 3: they're not very good, doesn't matter. People are going to

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Speaker 5: that makes their storyline a little bit more interesting. Now,

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Speaker 5: do I think the league overall is better when the

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Speaker 5: talking about polarizing characters like Lebron James, whether you hate

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Speaker 3: So, as we sit here, George Pickens's five catches off

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned Dak Prescott. Remember how criticized they were

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Speaker 3: for paying him, right, they waited and then they paid him.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why did they get him all that money?

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Speaker 3: billion dollars a year. For perspective, a quick research project

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Speaker 3: here the operating revenues and expenses for the year two

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty six million dollars. That's the University of

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Speaker 3: Michigan Athletics projects balance budget for the fiscal year twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six. Yeah, so, I mean, you, you know, multiply

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Speaker 3: that out, grab Penn State in there, grab in Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: grab some of your heavyweights, and we get to a

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Speaker 3: pretty sizable number for a single season, for a single

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Speaker 3: year pretty fast. But you know, if you are one

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Speaker 3: of the I don't want to say also rands, but

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Speaker 3: smaller schools, right with a different operating expense, and I

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Speaker 3: looked squarely at my Northwestern Wildcats, smaller university, smaller student body,

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Speaker 3: all of that's much smaller base, even though you're in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: That if you can be locked INTOLL twenty forty six

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Speaker 3: with a massive deal, you're saying, yeah, I mean like,

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Speaker 3: there's no question about it. So to see you know,

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Speaker 3: Michigan and USC kind of a bristle at this and

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Speaker 3: try to pick apart the different components of the deal

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Speaker 3: makes perfect sense. But it just shows where we're at

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Speaker 3: in this day and age. We were talking about Lane Kiffen,

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Speaker 3: James Franklin and others with the money that moves, offset,

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Speaker 3: language and everything else. To the tens of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: This just adds another couple of zeros.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it does.

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Speaker 5: You know, Look, I think I think these these headlines

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Speaker 5: obviously distract from what all this is supposed to be about,

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Speaker 5: you know, obviously, you know, college football is supposed to

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Speaker 5: be about the football, and it feels like lately we're

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Speaker 5: talking about anything but the football. We're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 5: the the betting, not even necessarily like spreads and totals

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Speaker 5: were we're talking about, you know, the the allegations and

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Speaker 5: the rules and the gray areas, you know, scandals even

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Speaker 5: like like those are the things that are being discussed

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Speaker 5: writ large, you know, the investments of this private equity firm,

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Speaker 5: that conference, or the realignment of those kind like college

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Speaker 5: football used to feel very pure. And I do think

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Speaker 5: that even though I am all in favor of players

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Speaker 5: getting paid at a rate that's com measure it with

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Speaker 5: their sacrifice and the amount of money that is being

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Speaker 5: made off of the backs of what used to be

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Speaker 5: partially free labor. For walk On's absolutely free labor. In fact,

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Speaker 5: there were walk On players who were key contributors on

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Speaker 5: certain teams over the years who were paying tuition still,

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Speaker 5: so figure that out. But I digress to prove the

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Speaker 5: point that not every decision for the better leads to consequences.

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Speaker 4: That are easy to digest.

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Speaker 5: And I think one of the consequences of paying the

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Speaker 5: players is everybody's got, you know, to dig deeper in

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Speaker 5: their pockets to wring more money out of this sport.

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Speaker 5: And I think they're becoming more and more creative. I mean,

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Speaker 5: don't We're not getting too far away from foreign powers

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Speaker 5: becoming interested in investing in one of these conferences or

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Speaker 5: potentially investing in you know, the nil fund of your

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Speaker 5: favorite football program coming to a small United States city

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Speaker 5: near you. I mean, think about what Saudi Arabia has

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Speaker 5: already done, you know, with the golf and you know

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Speaker 5: the contentious relationship they have with the PGA and what

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Speaker 5: they started with Greg Norman and Live golf. Think about

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Speaker 5: the investment they've made into soccer, the investment they've made

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Speaker 5: into professional flag football. I mean, Saudi Arabia is essentially

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Speaker 5: taking sports and using it as a pr marketing tool

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Speaker 5: to maybe wash away some of the sins of yesteryear.

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Speaker 5: This is only going to continue and it potentially could

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Speaker 5: inf trade the ranks of college football soon we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other part is just the globalization beyond that right

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Speaker 3: where we're talking today, announcement of more games overseas. It's

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Speaker 3: not just the NFL. We're watching it more and more.

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Speaker 3: With college It used to be one or two games.

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Speaker 3: Here's a game in Ireland, I don't know. Now we're

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Speaker 3: looking at a myriad other countries now getting in the mix.

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Speaker 3: That we'll see more kickoff classics presented by insert sponsor

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Speaker 3: here at an exorbitant rate and being sold overseas, right,

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Speaker 3: because you can sell all those packages, TV rights and

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Speaker 3: globalized things. Although they keep running out of beard. You

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Speaker 3: notice that whenever we send some of these games to

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Speaker 3: a new place, that happened in Madrid, like it happened

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Speaker 3: in Dublin last year, where all of a sudden or

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Speaker 3: you had the credit cards go down, so you just

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Speaker 3: had to give away product. Otherwise you were going to

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Speaker 3: have people really mad because it couldn't buy a beer.

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Speaker 3: Because that happened in Madrid this week where and went

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Speaker 3: down for a bit. So it's like, all right, here

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Speaker 3: you go. You got a bunch of people online, here's

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Speaker 3: your beer. Just get out of the way. Just go

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Speaker 3: back to your z please. I don't cause problems.

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Speaker 5: I don't hate that decision, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if there's ever a way to play, you

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Speaker 5: played it correctly. If you make that, you know it's

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Speaker 5: not necessarily your mistake. But if you are running that game,

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Speaker 5: if your NFL offices overseas, you get on the phone

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Speaker 5: real quick with it with Roge in New York or

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Speaker 5: the next closest chair to his desk, and you say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 5: the square app went down in Spain. Can we just

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Speaker 5: give five thousand beers away to clear the concession lines.

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Speaker 5: All right, we're greenlit for that. Okay, good, because that

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Speaker 5: is the correct decision. It should be about the fan

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Speaker 5: experience still overseas, even though they are ringing I mean

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Speaker 5: American viewers and stadium goers dry every.

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Speaker 4: Chance they get.

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Speaker 5: I mean, think about how much money, Mikey, it costs

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Speaker 5: to bring a family of four to ANFL football game.

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Speaker 4: It's unfeasible. You can't do it.

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Speaker 5: You have to be making bookoo buuckoo dollars to make

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Speaker 5: that make sense on anything nearing a consistent basis.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing, the consistent basis, uh, the

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Speaker 3: one off like going to the theater versus the burger

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Speaker 3: stand down the street, speaking of the de Burger at

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Speaker 3: Orburger where you find him on Twitter? Find me over

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Speaker 3: at Swell Home. Let's come over to the news desk

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Speaker 3: for a final time tonight. It's our guy Steve to say, hey, Stave, Hey.

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Speaker 8: There cheapest seats for the Lion's home game and Bears

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Speaker 8: home game this weekend two to three hundred bucks.

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Speaker 3: Heay, not feasible.

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Speaker 8: As for the NBA tonight, everything is final because we

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Speaker 8: did have a late game and at Portland, a Sun's

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Speaker 8: win one twenty seven to one ten. In La, the

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Speaker 8: Lakers shot sixty percent from the floor and v Utah

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Speaker 8: one forty one twenty five. Lakers record now eleven and four.

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Speaker 8: Luke Doncic with thirty seven points, Lebron James of La

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Speaker 8: at his season debut after the bad back at eleven points,

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Speaker 8: twelve assists, one turnover wins for Orlando and Boston. For

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Speaker 8: the Spurs and Detroit, the Pistons have won eleven straight

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Speaker 8: after winning it Atlanta one twenty to one twelve. Milwaukee's

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Speaker 8: Giannisan Tenakupo could miss up to two weeks with a

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Speaker 8: string groin. In college hoops, at the doubleheader at Madison

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Speaker 8: Square Garden, top twenty matchup went to Michigan State over

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Speaker 8: Kentucky eighty three sixty six, Number five, Duke beat Kansas

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Speaker 8: seventy eight sixty six, Number twenty one. Arkansas escaped with

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Speaker 8: a win over Winthrop eighty four eighty three, and in

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Speaker 8: the late game double overtime Troy wins at San Diego

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Speaker 8: State oneh eight to one oh seven. In the new

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Speaker 8: college football playoff rankings, the top three stayed the same

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Speaker 8: led by number one Ohio State. Number four is Georgia

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Speaker 8: Oklahoma up to number eight, then number nine Notre Dame,

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Speaker 8: and number ten Alabama would barely get in the playoff.

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Speaker 8: As of now, Number thirteen Miami would as ACC champion,

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Speaker 8: but number eleven BYU Number twelve Utah at the moment

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Speaker 8: would not make it in Tulane would at number twenty

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Speaker 8: four in the country. They'd be the best of the

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Speaker 8: group of five teams. College football selection Sunday is December

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Speaker 8: the seventh. Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase is out this

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Speaker 8: weekend as one game suspension was upheld. Texans quarterback c J. Stroud,

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Speaker 8: with his concussion, will miss a third straight game this

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Speaker 8: Thursday against the Bills. Quarterback Davis Mills will start again

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Speaker 8: for Houston. Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers will not need surgery

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Speaker 8: on his broken left wrist.

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Speaker 3: He will not practice Wednesday.

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Speaker 8: Reportedly, he's pushing to play Sunday at Chicago. Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 8: optimistic that running back Jalen Warren will play despite an

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Speaker 8: ankle injury. NHL wins for Tampa Bay and the Islanders.

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Speaker 8: Pitcher show to Imnaga accepted a qualifying offer to stay

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Speaker 8: with the Cubs. The Angels tonight traded outfielder Taylor Ward

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Speaker 8: to Baltimore for pitcher Grayson Rodriguez. Spain and Belgium earned

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Speaker 8: spots in next Summer's World Cup. US men's soccer finished

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Speaker 8: the year with its final exhibition in Tampa, five to

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Speaker 8: one victory over Uruguay. The Americans led four nothing late

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Speaker 8: first half. Back to you, thanks so much, Steve. I

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Speaker 8: have a good night and appreciate Steve Disager at the

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Speaker 8: news desk. Because Jason Smith show would be Mike Carmen

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Speaker 8: Rich Hornberger in first Jason this evening.

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Speaker 3: Jason will be back tomorrow. Coming up next, Interesting trades considered.

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Speaker 3: You may remember that line from Seinfeld and an Anthony

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Speaker 3: Quinn t shirt. Well, a certain gaming company is doing

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Speaker 3: the same and the list of exclusions will make you laugh.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that as we continue. Rich and Bike

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Speaker 3: here