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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Hunt's Giants, Giants, give Me some job.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: Let's welcome to another edition of The Giants Little Podcast,

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the

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Speaker 3: New York Football Giants.

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmulk. We continue our Draft Pick series.

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Speaker 3: Trying to dig in to the collegiate history of a

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Speaker 3: lot of our draft prospects, and today we're going to

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Speaker 3: do so with new Giants running back Tyrone Tracy Junior,

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Speaker 3: who of course attended Iowa and then transferred to Purdue.

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Speaker 3: And we're joined first by the head coach of Purdue,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Walters.

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Speaker 1: Coach, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great man, Good to see your guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and thanks for doing this, coach.

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Speaker 3: We feel like their coaches in college really can give

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Speaker 3: his unique insight into the players that you know, we

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Speaker 3: can watch the tape, but you guys see what they're

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Speaker 3: like behind the scenes, which truly defines what they are

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Speaker 3: as a player.

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Speaker 1: So we were chatting before we started.

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Speaker 3: When you got hired, Tyrone Tracy had already been there

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Speaker 3: for a year, and I got to imagine as someone

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Speaker 3: that's trying to build a program from scratchy.

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Speaker 1: Get a guy that's gonna be a sixty year pla

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Speaker 1: going to be there for a year.

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Speaker 3: It probably would have been natural in some ways for

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Speaker 3: him to want to transfer or you don't want to,

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Speaker 3: you know, not give a lot of playing time to

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Speaker 3: a six year guy and go with a younger player.

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Speaker 3: But you made him your number one running back. What

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Speaker 3: was it about Tyrone Tracy that it was important to

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Speaker 3: you that, yeah, I want this guy to stick around

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because there was a time where where

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Speaker 5: he was thinking about transferring for those reasons. So when

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Speaker 5: I got when I got hired, you know, Tyrone was

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Speaker 5: playing a wide receiver, and you know, I went and

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Speaker 5: just wanted to know who I had on the roster

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Speaker 5: saw like him as a wide out. You know, you

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Speaker 5: see a lot of guys that are his stature, his speed,

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Speaker 5: would he be tough enough in past protection? Would he

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Speaker 5: him was, well, if you're a starting running back in

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Speaker 5: And so once we had that conversation and once he

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Speaker 5: You know, he started buying into putting on the weight

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Speaker 5: You know, he started flourishing as a leader in the

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Speaker 5: throughout the draft process like Tyrone's best football days are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about it. How anxious was he or

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Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, you know, it took a little convincing. Like

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Speaker 5: You know, I think I think he you know, I'm

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Speaker 5: what the ultimate goal is to be able to continue

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Speaker 5: I just thought playing tailback would provide him that opportunity.

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Speaker 5: And kudos to him for for trusting and believing in

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Speaker 3: Decision, how quickly was he able to pick it up

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Speaker 3: Trust is a huge factor with these guys. You have

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Speaker 3: the right thing. We'll get to the past protection with him,

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Speaker 5: You know, he picked it up pretty quickly. I had

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was the way he worked out, the way he

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Speaker 5: and just the energy that he brought every day was consistent.

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Speaker 5: And you know, when people are consistent, it's easy to

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Speaker 5: trust them. And I think that's where Tyrone exceled.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned toughness in your first answer, and I

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Speaker 3: think my immediate thought, are you moving a wide receiver

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Speaker 3: And that and that speaks the football character A little

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Speaker 5: With flying colors, like you know, our test in them

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Speaker 5: early in the springtime, and you know, we would create

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Speaker 5: if we blisted the backer, it was going to be

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Speaker 5: Tyrone having to pick him up. And we sent him

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Speaker 5: you know, Tyrone was the was a willing participant in

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's an it's a necessary role that

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Speaker 5: And you know he was our best. He was our

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Speaker 4: So that's when I was like, we got it, in

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Speaker 5: Like we'll see why the season plays out, but you know,

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Speaker 5: I've been in this profession at this level for you know,

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Speaker 5: fifteen sixteen years now, and Tyrone is the NFL back

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Speaker 5: and so it wasn't surprised when when things played out

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Speaker 3: A big part of being a first year head coach

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Speaker 3: is trying to install, you know, your culture in the building.

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Speaker 3: And I hate that it's kind of a buzzword, right,

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Speaker 3: but you're trying to install your program and get things

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Speaker 3: going the way you wanted to go. Why did Tyrone

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Speaker 3: Why did he fit with what you were trying to

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Speaker 5: You know, so the three things we consistently talk about

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Speaker 5: so it was it was an easy fit because we

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Speaker 5: You know, he's as competitive a guy been around no

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Speaker 5: matter what what you're doing. Talked about his toughness not

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Speaker 5: only from a physical standpoint, but just you know, in life,

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Speaker 5: in general. Like obviously his path is a unique one.

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Speaker 5: You know, you get recruited out of high school to

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Speaker 4: But you stay the course. And he that was toughness.

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Speaker 5: He attacked those adverse moments with with great attitude and effort.

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Speaker 5: And he's a he's disciplined like that. Discipline leads to consistency,

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Speaker 5: and we're consistent, you can you got a chance to produce,

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Speaker 5: and you know he was. He was detailed and discipline

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Speaker 5: and you know, never put the ball on the ground.

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Speaker 4: You know, for a first year.

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Speaker 5: Running back and a guy that was used to playing well,

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Speaker 5: you know, why get a little flashy, They get a

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Speaker 5: little loose with the ball at times. But but he didn't.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, he was like I said, he was.

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Speaker 5: He was awesome in the locker room. It's the message

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Speaker 3: You already kind of mentioned his mental toughness, and as

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Speaker 3: you well know, in the NFL, you have to deal

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Speaker 3: From what you saw, he has the prerequisite mental toughness

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, It's funny. I was talking to him the other

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Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, it's like this, yeah, right, that's that's

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Speaker 5: the league, bro. And he's like, man, it's just crazy.

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Speaker 5: He's like, you know, just it's a reminder that you know,

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Speaker 5: you need to work every day. Like your your spot

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Speaker 5: on the on the rosters is not owned, it's rented,

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Speaker 5: and rent its due every day, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And that fits right up his ality ally with his

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Speaker 5: competitive nature. You know, he's just he's never shoved, he's

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Speaker 5: never rattled. He's always got a positive outlook, and he's

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Speaker 5: got a lot of confidence, self belief and in his ability.

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Speaker 5: So I think that will translate. Well, he adds value

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Speaker 5: with the receiver background. And he's also a beast on

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Speaker 5: looking forward to to washing him play for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I think his best days are ahead

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about him on the field real quick.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned special teams.

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Speaker 3: How much did his work as a returner coach give

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Speaker 3: It's funny when you watch him to his running style

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Well, one like he's a he has

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, like he's a natural pass catcher, you know, he's

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Speaker 5: So we definitely utilize them out of the backfield. This

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Speaker 1: And then and the final question you mentioned coverage units.

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Speaker 3: Right, if you're in the NFL, you're a rookie, you

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Speaker 1: If you could play on coverage units, that's a huge deal.

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Speaker 3: And you know where did you use him in terms

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, Well, he was on our kickoff and

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Speaker 5: he embraced those roles like he wasn't a guy that like, Man,

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Speaker 5: I just had a long run, we scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: I need a breather, you know, can can we can

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Speaker 1: All right, coach.

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Speaker 3: And then I don't know how much you've studied in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, man, I'm interested to see how that

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Speaker 3: So finally, any anecdotes or stories behind the scenes that

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Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy is off the field that New Yorkers will

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna get.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, he's super positive all the time. You know,

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Speaker 5: Tyrone Tracy Show this year.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Definitely, when football is done, hopefully a long time from now,

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Speaker 4: He's one of those kind of guys.

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Speaker 3: Coach, thanks so much. We appreciate the time. Anything you

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Speaker 5: It, Purdue, No, I'd rather just show him, man, Like

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Speaker 5: you know, talk is cheap in my opinion, and a

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Speaker 5: lot of people have opinions on how it will be

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Speaker 4: And I'm just kidding. I'm excited to go play.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see it. Coach, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: All right, man, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You're red.

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Speaker 1: We thank hey coach Ryan Walters for joining us.

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Speaker 3: And now we welcome in Tyron Tracy, Junior's running backs

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Speaker 3: coach at Purdue Lamar Connord Lamar, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us?

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Speaker 7: I'm great man, happy to be here. All right.

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Speaker 3: So we just kind of got the overview from from

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Speaker 1: Hey, here's a receiver making them are like number one back.

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Speaker 1: Did you sit there like, coach? Really, you're one? You

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Speaker 2: You come on, hey, well I can look at it

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately for me, I had a pre existing relationship with Tyrone.

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Speaker 2: I knew him personally. I recruited him when he was

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Speaker 2: I've known of Tyrone's ability. So when he brought it up, like,

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Speaker 7: And I went back and.

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Speaker 2: Found my old evaluation from him from back in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had fourteen hundred rushing yards at Decatur in

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Speaker 2: His contact runs, the ability to stay on his feet

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Speaker 7: It didn't take long.

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Speaker 2: His confidence was always there. I think it was finding

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Speaker 3: best position to succeed. Look, sixty year. He had not

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Speaker 3: been all that productive in his first five years, right,

439
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 3: probably chance of making the NFL at that point was

440
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: probably slim. And he's got one year left. He had

441
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 3: to trust you guys to put him in an opportunity

442
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 3: to kind of give him a chance to realize his dreams.

443
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's got to be really tough conversations that

444
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Speaker 3: were going on when you guys first arrived.

445
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Speaker 7: You know, they're a close knit family, So let me

446
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 7: be frank.

447
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: You know, I started working on Dad my siblings as

448
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: well as him, you know, to get them to to

449
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: you know, to convey the messages you can trust.

450
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Speaker 7: Coach.

451
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: I know you haven't been around him, but your siblings

452
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: have been as parents they have been, and I believe

453
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: in the truth will always prevail. And so I've built

454
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: a wonderful relationship with with them, a trusting relationship. This

455
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: grounded really in frontship because I mean, those are my

456
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: friends at this point. I've been around him so long.

457
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 2: So with Tyrone, I just had to spend time with him,

458
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: you know, and really get him to understand who I am.

459
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 2: And I have your best interest at heart. You know,

460
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 2: we're not doing this selfishly just for Purdue. We're doing

461
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: it for each other. If you want to have a shot,

462
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: this is your best this is your best avenue. I

463
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: contacted a few scouts as I know, and I said,

464
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Speaker 2: you know, where would he be if he's played receiver

465
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Speaker 2: and they're like undrafted free agent? Maybe And his best

466
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 2: shot was, Man, you have a chance to get the ball.

467
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: We can turn and hand you the ball and it

468
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: adds a different skill set to you. So maybe it

469
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 2: adds value to you. You know what I mean At

470
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: the very least, Well you'll get a greater opportunity. But

471
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 2: we have some tough conversations. Man, there's some tears shed.

472
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, when it comes to guys that

473
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: I connect with, like him, I have a personal relationship

474
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: with him and his family. Like there was some tearshed, man,

475
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: some hard moments, some prayer, all that good stuff.

476
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Speaker 4: You know.

477
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Speaker 2: As a head coach, Wall has to come from it

478
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: from a little bit different perspective. He got go a

479
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: little harder, but I wanted to make sure that he

480
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: felt what I felt. Right Like, man, I've seen this before.

481
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: You have to trust the process and I am here

482
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Speaker 2: for you in your in your darkest days. And you know,

483
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: when the lights shining on your brother, you know, I'll

484
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: be standing next to you too. But you got to

485
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: let go and trust. And obviously of the course of

486
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: four or five years didn't work out of Iowa. His

487
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: first year at Perdue, he struggled a little bit. That

488
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: that was a challenge. But thankfully, you know, we we

489
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 2: we met in the middle and you know, again tears

490
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Speaker 2: were shed and we found a way. He found a

491
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Speaker 2: way to trust and believe. And uh, it's a beautiful

492
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Speaker 2: thing as a coach when when that happens, because he

493
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Speaker 2: let go and just went to work.

494
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Speaker 1: Before we get to the meeting room. Stuff. Just his

495
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Speaker 1: running style.

496
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Speaker 3: When I was doing my draft preparation before the Giants

497
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Speaker 3: even picked him, he was a fun player to watch.

498
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Speaker 7: Man.

499
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Speaker 3: His running style is a little un orthodox. He always

500
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: like a Tasmanian devil. He's spinning, he's bouncing off guys.

501
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 3: He almost looks out of control, but his contact balance

502
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: is so good. I know he's not out of control.

503
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Speaker 3: So what's unique and kind of special to you coach

504
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Speaker 3: about his running style? Again, that's been around running backs

505
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: for a long time.

506
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you just got to give him

507
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of rope. You know, my thing is

508
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: when you have a guy that's that natural. If you

509
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: coach too much, if you drill him too much away

510
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: from what he does, he becomes mechanical.

511
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Speaker 7: And that's not what I wanted to do.

512
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Speaker 2: So from the standpoint of the drills that we did,

513
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Speaker 2: I kind of, you know, gave him a little bit

514
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: of grace, but I made sure the detailed stuff that

515
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: you got to do correctly, the body positioning, hitting your

516
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: aiming points, that that's non negotiable. But once you get

517
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Speaker 2: to that point, do your thing. Make sure the ball

518
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: is high and tight and protected. But you know, hey,

519
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: you spinning. That's not my thing. But as long as

520
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Speaker 2: the balls protected and you're being productive, I don't want

521
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: you thinking, hey, I got to stop mid spind because

522
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: coach doesn't want me to do that. No, man, do

523
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Speaker 2: your thing. Be a great player, and I'm going to

524
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Speaker 2: amplify that. You know, that is a trait that he

525
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: has and not a lot of guys had, right, and

526
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: so you just you just kind of get out of

527
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: the way, you know, you find a way to just

528
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: the streamline the streamline a little bit and then just

529
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Speaker 2: empower them to do what you do and again, if

530
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Speaker 2: you go all the way back to when he's in

531
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Speaker 2: high school, he does the same thing right. Somehow he

532
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: gets his body in the right position on contact and

533
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Speaker 2: he's always moving forward.

534
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Speaker 7: And that's a gift. Either you have it or you don't.

535
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 7: You see it.

536
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Speaker 3: At a very young age, you talked about the non negotiables.

537
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Speaker 3: I imagine one of those non negotiables is past protection.

538
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure as a guy that's a converted wide receiver,

539
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 3: and when you talk to coach Walter's about this, you're

540
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: probably sitting there, well, does this guy want to stick

541
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Speaker 3: his nose in there and pick up a two hundred

542
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: and sixty pound you know, guy coming off the edge

543
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Speaker 3: or blitzeing wine back full speed up in the middle

544
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Speaker 3: of the a gap.

545
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Speaker 1: What was that process like?

546
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Speaker 3: Just teaching him the ins and outs of pass protection,

547
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: the mental part of it first, and then him being

548
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Speaker 3: a willing participant in that point game.

549
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll give him credit because again I studied his

550
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver film, I mean heavily, and one of the

551
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 2: things that were one of the things that he did

552
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: exceptionally well was block. He wasn't afraid to block right,

553
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: he was lining people up, telling him like, who you got, Hey,

554
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: we're two for two. Were down this way, he would

555
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: go put his face on people in space. Now, blocking

556
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: the safety or a corner is completely different than blocking

557
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: the two hundred and sixty pounds defensive end to two

558
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: hundred and forty pounds linebackers shoot through the a gap.

559
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: And so it came back to I know he's gonna

560
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: be willing. He's got to put on the weight to

561
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Speaker 2: be able to do it consistently and hold up. But

562
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Speaker 2: it's a technique thing. If you trust your technique, because

563
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: I know he trusted sound. If you trust your technique,

564
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: get your body in the right position, be able to anticipate,

565
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: see things before they happened, which is pre snap reeze.

566
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: Communicate with the quarterback, communicate with the offensive lineman. You're

567
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: going to be just fine.

568
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

569
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: And it happened early. I mean it was springball where

570
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: he understood the communication piece. He played receiver. I have

571
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: to communicate if I want, if we all want to

572
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: be on the same page, we have to communicate. And

573
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 2: once he got over he mess he screwed one up

574
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: and I'm in his tail and I'm like, all you

575
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: have to do is communicate and He kind of took

576
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: over from there. He learned to step into the offensive line,

577
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: grabbed the quarterback, you know, point out, I don't care

578
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: if the defense knowes, point out who the point is,

579
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: all all those things, and okay, we got that figured out.

580
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: You know, now, can you bone up and handle it

581
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: when when? You know when, when the time comes? And

582
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: he got run through in practice and got dropped on

583
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: his tail. And again, Tyrone, you now you've got the technique.

584
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: You know where you go, but you've got to put

585
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: force through. This is not a dB. You can't just

586
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: get to the spot and stop. You've got to bring

587
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: those hips with you. And uh, you know, embarrassment oftentimes

588
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: can push it one way or another. And with Tyrone,

589
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: he's such a competitive person. He brush it off. The

590
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: next time it happened. He absolutely destroyed the back of

591
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: when he showed up in the hole, faced first hands inside,

592
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: ran his feet angry, and I'm like, I looked at

593
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: coaches said we got one.

594
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: All right, we got it.

595
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 7: At the end of the day.

596
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: If that's the response, if that's a response to some adversity. Man,

597
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: he processed it. He processed it. He figured out the

598
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 2: last detail. Let's go And the beautiful thing with him was,

599
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: you know, he wanted to watch the film immediately. Hey coach,

600
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: you got a few minutes after I get cleaned up,

601
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: Let's go watch the film.

602
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 7: He wanted.

603
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: He wanted immediate information to make sure, okay, look at

604
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: the look at display versus display? What's the difference? And

605
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: he knew I have to be willing to get there

606
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: first and finish throw the first part, so to speak.

607
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: And it was a joy to watch. But that tells

608
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 2: you his football IQ. He understood that it's physically I

609
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: know I can do it now. Now it's just the

610
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: process of the information. If I can cut him off

611
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: at the past, then my job will be much easier

612
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: and I won't have to be I won't have to

613
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: put my body through much, so much strain and stress.

614
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 6: You love turf, You're good at it, So you start

615
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: a turf fizz business, grows your savings, groud, become the

616
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 6: most celebrated name in tern Are you ready for all

617
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 6: that life rings?

618
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: What kind of learner was he?

619
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Speaker 5: Was?

620
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: He a guy that could just learn off the board

621
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: that he had to rep it.

622
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: What was his process learning all this new stuff at

623
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 3: the running back position as a student.

624
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 7: Oh, he'll grind you to death.

625
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: I view myself as a I view myself as a teacher,

626
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: and he is a phenomenal student. He's the student that

627
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: will not leave that room if he does not have

628
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: the answer. He will come spend extra time, which again,

629
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 2: you know, it's awesome to see when a guy has

630
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: a dream, the vision. He has his talent, but he

631
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: wants to do the work. You know, when when I

632
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: when I first presented it, it wasn't just learning the protections.

633
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: He wanted to learn more about defensive structure, understand how

634
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback sees it, you know, I mean, hey, not

635
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: just looking at the four down line and the backers.

636
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: He wanted to see safety rotations because I told him

637
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: that the deeper dive you get into it, the faster

638
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: you process, the faster you'll play, the more confidence you'll be.

639
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: And he really took He really took to it. So

640
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: we spent time not just on viewing things from the

641
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: running back perspective, but also the three sixty view right

642
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: putting what you saw at receiver also at tailbacks. You

643
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: understand what the quarterback is seeing, what his reads are,

644
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: why he's going to you know, on the r po

645
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: throw the ball out here versus handed off. Why he

646
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 2: slides protection a certain way. It was awesome to see

647
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: and from your to your to your original question. Uh,

648
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: he's not a guy that just gets it off the

649
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: board the first time.

650
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 7: He's a he's a rinse and repeat.

651
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: But he will sit in that classroom and say, coach,

652
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: let's go over this again. Let's go over this again.

653
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: And to be honest, he's such a good learner that

654
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: even while he's learning, he is challenging his teammates. Hey,

655
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: take those notes again, coach, can you say it again?

656
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: I think I got it. I don't believe he does,

657
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: you know, which showed his leadership also, it was it

658
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: was awesome to see. But I think that's experience because

659
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: he's been the young guy in the room. Now he's

660
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: the vet. But from a processing standpoint, he understood how

661
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: important the notes the details were. And there's also times

662
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: he like, hey, coach, let's stand up and go through

663
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: it while we're in the meeting room, which is which

664
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: is awesome. Like I'm like absolutely, and you know it's

665
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: it's anytime that we were going through any kind of

666
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: film study, extra work. At home, he was doing extra

667
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: work at home. Uh, you know, I tell guys all

668
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: the time, feel free to reach out to me. You're

669
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: my priority. But but how often do they do it?

670
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: Well?

671
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: Tyrone was consistently sending me messages, Hey, I'm watching film.

672
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: It's not even our film, but he's watching other film

673
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, coach, Hey, I saw this picture.

674
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 7: Can you walk me through it? I haven't seen this before.

675
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 7: Like he was working ahead.

676
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: Which I think benefited him as well, because again, knowledge

677
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: and understanding Bill's confidence, and when you put those two together,

678
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: the talent, it's it's you know, it's Tyrone.

679
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: What are the areas for growth that he was still

680
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: improving on towards the end of his final year with

681
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: you guys that maybe came a little slower for him

682
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: going and running back where you still think there are

683
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: a lot of areas of growth in the NFL as

684
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: he continues to get more experience at the position.

685
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, to be Frank, it's just it's reps.

686
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: He seeing the variety of defenses that you're going to

687
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: see in the NFL. You know, in college football it

688
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: can get you know, pretty pretty base. You know, four down,

689
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: three backers cover four Just seeing the different pictures when

690
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: when teams are like, hey, we got to get scheme

691
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: heavy to get these guys and and responding faster from

692
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: play to play. Sometimes it's scheme, sometimes it is talent.

693
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: You got to be able to pick yourself up off

694
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: the ground, get to the next play. Don't overprocess things. Hey,

695
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: I had to play here, but you know what happened.

696
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 2: Hey man, you know, let's get a process to move

697
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: on to the next play like this. The sulties of

698
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: the position right understanding how to take care of your

699
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: body in between a series and that stuff that people

700
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: may not see. But hey, do I need to go

701
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: see the trainer. It doesn't mean I'm hurt, but I

702
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: need to get this checked out. Make sure that that

703
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good and you know, my mind's in the

704
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: right place. The communication is needed, you know when you

705
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: know again, when you're on the sideline with the QB,

706
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: with the offensive lineman, with your coach, it's just experience.

707
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 7: But on the field, I talked to.

708
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: Him about ball security quite a bit, because he can't

709
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: get a little loose with the ball from the standpoint,

710
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: just because of how he runs. He got long arms,

711
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: big hands, and he's confident and he hasn't put the

712
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: ball on the ground, but still structurally, defense are going

713
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: to id that and try to find a way. They're

714
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: gonna stop trying to tackle you per se, and it's

715
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: gonna start tackling the football.

716
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 7: And he made strides there.

717
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: But but again, when you're trying to take yourself to

718
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: the next level, the details matter. Being a little bit

719
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: more patient and letting him play develop because he can

720
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: find cut back lanes and do things that you can't coach.

721
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: But there's times when the play was there, stay with

722
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: it a little longer, help the off of the blind

723
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: and finish their blocks. Don't put them in any kind

724
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: of adversity in terms of being able to get a

725
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: holding call because you cut back.

726
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 7: Too soon, those kind of things.

727
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: So it's just small details of the position that come

728
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: with experience and knowing when to you know kind of

729
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: you know, change the play on your own. But those

730
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: are good things because he's a coachable kid and you

731
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: know he wants to refine those things.

732
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 7: So no, that would be it to me. It's slow

733
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 7: things and I just go back to experience it. Playing

734
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 7: the position. He's going to make place. He's going to

735
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 7: make place. But the more experience he has. The more

736
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: you see that picture consistently, the.

737
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Better he'll get two more quickiess, coach, And again we

738
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: appreciate the time.

739
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: This is great.

740
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I definitely appreciate your time.

741
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: You mentioned his frame.

742
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: You guys have to kind of get him up from

743
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: his wide receiver weight to play running back. I think

744
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: at the combine, I got it right here and measured

745
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: at two on nine. He's got a big frame. Do

746
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: you think there's still room for him to put some

747
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: more bulk ONU? Do you think two on nine is

748
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: the perfect weight for him in terms of him playing

749
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: running back?

750
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 7: He has a room to bro He's got broad shoulders.

751
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: Man, That's why I asked he does.

752
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: He's got broad shoulders. He's built right. I think genetically

753
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: just just knowing his family, he can home. He's such

754
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: a naturally strong kid. Even in high school. Whenever recruit him,

755
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: I said, man, your tailback, He's like, I'm not gonna

756
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: be two hundred pounds.

757
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 7: I'm like, yes, you will.

758
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, as you get older, you're gonna find out, buddy,

759
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: want to come off as easy.

760
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: The old man weights tough to lose.

761
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 8: Duse, man, I think that the good thing with Tyrone

762
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 8: is he knows his body really well, and I just

763
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 8: told him, hey, man, it's gonna take you a little

764
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 8: bit of time.

765
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: You got to put weight on. But what is your

766
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: your your that sweet spot? It could be to five,

767
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: it might be two fifteen, right based off of what

768
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: we ask you to do. If we're going to put

769
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: you in space more, it might be to five. You're

770
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: not going to have to step up and pick up

771
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: a linebacker in the box or a chip on the

772
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: defensive end as often as we thought you were right,

773
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 2: or hey, we're going to have you be the primary guy.

774
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: You're gonna be running downhill. You need that extra five

775
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: to ten pounds of muscle. He's a studie enough to

776
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: be able to find that sweet spot because at the

777
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: end of the day and at that level, how often

778
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 2: you're actually going to be able to run away from people.

779
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be more about your your explosiveness and

780
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 2: to be able to run through tackles, turn five yards

781
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: into twenty. If you do get into the open field,

782
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: your conditioning will be as critical as your weight. So

783
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: he does have the frame to add more weight, it's

784
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: just a matter of does it fit the scheme that

785
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: he's in. I think he could be two fifteen for sure,

786
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: and he would be just as explosive, maybe a hair stronger.

787
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Two twenty is probably pushing it, but it's you know

788
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: what you're requiring to do. If y'all going to have

789
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: him split out playing wide receiver and doing some of

790
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: that stuff, then it might be two five.

791
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you've looked at the new

792
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: NFL kickoff role, but I got to imagine that seems

793
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: to me, based on how both you and coach have

794
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: talked about Tyrone, that seems like something that you could

795
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: probably slide him into pretty early here, and he should

796
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: be pretty good at it.

797
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 7: No hundred percent again, I'm gonna tell you, yeah, I believe.

798
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: But you can see though he's had those traits forever

799
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: since he was in pee wee, since he was in

800
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: pee wee football. He has a great feel for finding

801
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: creases in getting through them when you know we can't

802
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: see it, like, how do you get how did he

803
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: do that? He had a run against the University Illinois

804
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: last year. We run outside zone and he could have

805
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: pushed it to the front side and he cut back

806
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: off the backside tackle don't know how I did got

807
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: eight yards, don't know, couldn't find it. But he he's

808
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: comfortable in those spaces. And when you talk about kickoff,

809
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: you've got to be willing to run into the wall,

810
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: running into that door and you don't know if it's

811
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: going to open. You've got to be willing to do it.

812
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: And he has that that kind of instinct uh and

813
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: feel that you need, and he has a frame that

814
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: this is the beauty of it.

815
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 7: Man, He's a hybrid.

816
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: He he has the quickness, the change the direction of

817
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: a slot receiver, but he has the strength of a

818
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: running back and you need that when you're on kickoff, right,

819
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 2: you might have to make a dynamic cut to push

820
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: the gap a couple hold, a couple of gaps wider.

821
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: But there's signs when hey man, there's nothing there, I

822
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: got to make something.

823
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

824
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 7: And that's that fault right in line with w eaves.

825
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: How much did he do punt for you guys? Punt

826
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: return you know what?

827
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: We trained him, We trained him. He did it the

828
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: last few games of the year. We had a pretty

829
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: good punt returner ahead of him, but we were just

830
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: as confident. Hey, if we need to put Tyrone out there,

831
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: we will, but that was a way for us to

832
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: kind of save his legs a little bit because he's

833
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: already our kickoff returner. He was playing forty to fifty

834
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: snaps on offense.

835
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: As well, and he did coverage too. Right, Coach, he

836
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: was on.

837
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: Kickoff, he was on punt you know, so you're trying

838
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: to manage it a little bit, and like, hey, if

839
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: we can save his body here because we have a

840
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: guy that's equal to or a little better than him

841
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: at punt returner, then you know you're trying to make

842
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: the smart decision there. So he got in that hands

843
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: nat for that. You can make the first guy miss,

844
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: there's a good chance you could do it.

845
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: Then, finally, no one was probably at that program closer

846
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: to him than you were, Coach. Any stories or anecdotes

847
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: about Tyrone is a guy, his leadership, his character on

848
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: or off the field. But I understand that he's a

849
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: pretty funny, entertaining guy. I'm sure you got something for us.

850
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: Tell me some stories.

851
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: What do he got?

852
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 7: Oh, he's gonna talk all day now once he gets comfortable.

853
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Uh again, I love it because I love football players

854
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: at tailback. I want I want football players and he

855
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: and in many ways, he has a defensive mentality. He

856
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: doesn't back down from anybody. It's the defense is chirping.

857
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: He gonna talk and then he's gonna he's gonna put

858
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: in the work, you know. I mean, but his energy

859
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: is infectious. Man, just him talking to his teammates. He'll

860
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: talk trash to the coaches. He just has a crazy

861
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: competitive spirit. Gosh, we have a handshake that that he

862
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: taught me. I'm not a big one of those crazy

863
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: handshake guys, and he taught it to me last fall camp.

864
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: And uh, we get to the middle of the season he

865
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: makes I think it was against Minnesota he made he

866
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: made a nice round score at touchdown and I'll run

867
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: out in the field to do it with him.

868
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 7: He's looting at me, like, coach, what are you doing.

869
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 7: I'm like, bro, the handshake, what are you doing? He's like, oh, yeah,

870
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 7: I forget about that. I'm like this guy here man.

871
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's just messing with me because he

872
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Speaker 2: knew it. But you know, you know, I'm the old man.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like embarrassed and stuff. He's like, coach,

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: He just has a wonderful soul, a wonderful spirit man.

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Speaker 2: And uh, I mean, uh, it's it's he is galvanizing

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Speaker 2: to be around. Uh. And from a leadership standpoint, we

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Speaker 2: played the again. We were preparing for a game we

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Speaker 2: did not play well the week before. We did not

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Speaker 2: in his mind, we did not prepare well and it

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Speaker 2: was a disappointing loss. And I talked to him about

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Speaker 2: vocal leadership. He's already he leads in a different way,

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Speaker 2: but like man, you have the voice, they will follow you.

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Speaker 2: Don't be afraid to go up there, speak your mind.

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Speaker 2: People are gonna have opinion on you regardless. And so

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Speaker 2: he came to me, He came to Coach Walters and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: can I speak to the team and the team, not

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Speaker 2: the offense, not my position group, the team, And we

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Speaker 2: obviously said yes. And you can tell you put a

891
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Speaker 2: lot of thought into it. And you know, he didn't

892
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Speaker 2: speak directly to the defense. I can't speak to y'all's issues,

893
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Speaker 2: your problems, but I want to talk about the offense,

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Speaker 2: so so everybody, but everybody hears this. And the first

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Speaker 2: thing he did was take a responsibility for his own play,

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Speaker 2: for his own preparation, and he said, I have to

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Speaker 2: be better. But then he went position and position and

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Speaker 2: he spoke on how we can all be better. Wow,

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Speaker 2: and he said it starts with me. I will be

900
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Speaker 2: better if I get it, if I get after y'all,

901
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: if I say some things to you, please don't take

902
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: it personally. But losing is not acceptable and if and

903
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Speaker 2: if it does happen, we need to make sure we've

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Speaker 2: checked all the boxes to make sure that we've done

905
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Speaker 2: everything we can to be successful. It's not on the coaches.

906
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: They do their job. They give us the information. What

907
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Speaker 2: are we doing with it? How are we preparing? And

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Speaker 2: it was awesome. I mean you could have you could

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Speaker 2: you could have. I mean you could have dropped a

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Speaker 2: pin man and heard it. It was unbelievable and you

911
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: could see what what what came of that? Right physically

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Speaker 2: he's an inspirational guy man. And we walked out as coaches,

913
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Speaker 2: was like, that's hard to find today in in in football,

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Speaker 2: a guy who wants to stand out in front and

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Speaker 2: be the leader and take that burden on their shoulders.

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Speaker 2: He's awesome, man. So he's got all of it. He's

917
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Speaker 2: got all of it, man, and I know that he

918
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Speaker 2: will do well. And present him his self well for

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Speaker 2: your organization.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to spend more time with him.

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Speaker 3: I've talked to him briefly, having a chance to really

922
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Speaker 3: gets to know him that I can't wait to do.

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Speaker 3: A coach, thanks so much. We preally appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: This was great and best of luck this season.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely appreciate you man. Have a great day.

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Speaker 3: Just awesome stuff right there from two gentlemen, the head

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Speaker 3: coach of Purdue, Ryan Walters and then their running backs

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Speaker 3: coach Lamar Connord. And I got to be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty excited about it. Iyro Tracy Now some good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Then the leadership stuff at the end now was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: And you know again, I haven't had a chance to

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Speaker 3: talk much to him yet, but I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: do it. He seems like a wonderful kid with a

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Speaker 3: lot of talent. Football season is coming, and so is

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Speaker 1: I'm John Schmulk. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: On the Giants Little podcast brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 3: the official bank of the Giants. Thank you to Lamar,

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Speaker 3: thank you to Coach Walters, and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 4: Everybody,