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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is
Speaker 1: Chris Poulette. I'm an editor here at how stuff Works
Speaker 1: dot com and sitting next to me as usual to
Speaker 1: join the discussion as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. Good eye, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what's that all about? Well, today I thought we would
Speaker 1: take our discussion from a topic that was sent in
Speaker 1: from a listener, So let me quickly read this suggestion.
Speaker 1: Hi guys, my name is Nick. I am from Australia
Speaker 1: and I love the podcast. I got it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was searching the web recently when I stumbled over something
Speaker 1: which has been annoying me for a while. Now. What
Speaker 1: is an RSS feed and how do they work? Thanks? Well, Nick,
Speaker 1: I figure that's what we're gonna tackle is, um, RSS feeds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, and chances are you are listening to this
Speaker 1: podcast thanks in no small part to at least some
Speaker 1: sort of variation of the RSS feed. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: And wait a minute, you know you mean of all
Speaker 1: the articles on the site that I've written, which is
Speaker 1: what four or five? Now you picked one that I
Speaker 1: actually wrote. Yeah, yeah, out of all the thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of articles on how Stuff Works, I decided to
Speaker 1: go with one that Pallette himself uh penned or typed.
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't really pen it. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you go to how Stuff Works and you search
Speaker 1: for RSS, you'll see that our own Chris Pallette wrote
Speaker 1: the article on it, so I figure he's an expert.
Speaker 1: It's a trap. Anyway, Let's let's go ahead and kind
Speaker 1: of give you a sort of a quick introduction to
Speaker 1: r SS. Uh. It all goes back to nine. Wow,
Speaker 1: I remember it well when we're teaching the world to laugh, remember, well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a very good year. So, um, RSS stands
Speaker 1: for a couple of things, depending on who you ask,
Speaker 1: the the most common uh form of our or the
Speaker 1: most common what would you say, like, the most common
Speaker 1: name for RSS is really simple syndication. Um, that's that's
Speaker 1: how most people just translate the RSS. But that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily the only way to break out that acronym. That's true. Um, Actually,
Speaker 1: it had had a different name assigned to it by
Speaker 1: the person who basically put it together. His name is
Speaker 1: Dave Winer, and if you're a tech nut then you
Speaker 1: probably recognize his name. He's had a lot to do
Speaker 1: with the blogging over the years. And um, he actually
Speaker 1: had a hand in creating rs S, the RSS technology. Um,
Speaker 1: and it had another name. But it's funny because I
Speaker 1: think everybody thought that RSS was supposed to stand for
Speaker 1: really simple syndication, because it really is simple to syndicate
Speaker 1: using these feeds. Yeah, you might have heard of it
Speaker 1: also as r DF site summary or rich Site summary. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, those names not exactly the coolest names. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's and yeah, it gets a little more difficult to
Speaker 1: explain what r S S is when you think of
Speaker 1: it that way. When you think really simple syndication, you
Speaker 1: already have kind of an idea of what RSS is
Speaker 1: supposed to do. It's supposed to syndicate information across the web.
Speaker 1: And what does that mean. Well, it means that instead
Speaker 1: of you having to go to multiple destinations on the
Speaker 1: web to look up information, you know, information that changes
Speaker 1: over time, you would have the this subscription service where
Speaker 1: you would subscribe to a feed of information and that
Speaker 1: would serve it to you in some form, like whether
Speaker 1: it's a website, like a portal web site like eye, Google,
Speaker 1: or a desktop RSS reader anything like that, so you
Speaker 1: can get information from multiple sources packaged in a single
Speaker 1: view that way. That's true. Um, And uh, just as
Speaker 1: a quick thing about the name, apparently Mr Weiner thought
Speaker 1: it was a really cool name too, because he adopted
Speaker 1: it in the last specification that he released for rs s,
Speaker 1: which is RSS two point oh. Um. But uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's funny because the really simple part is very very
Speaker 1: apt because there's really not a whole lot to it.
Speaker 1: RSS feeds are essentially a different form of web page
Speaker 1: rather than being an HTML, which is hypertext markup language UM,
Speaker 1: which is basically how a web page tells your browser
Speaker 1: to format it with the different fonts, the different size fonts,
Speaker 1: bold italic, underline, you know, all those little things pictures
Speaker 1: that kind of Yeah, exactly where to put the photos
Speaker 1: whether or not to invent a chunk of flash. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's essentially what an h TAMIL page does. And if
Speaker 1: you were to go up to your browser and view
Speaker 1: the source of the document, you would see that basically,
Speaker 1: all the text in the document itself, unless it's part
Speaker 1: of a picture, is you know, just surrounded by a
Speaker 1: couple of tags. So it's it's you know, it may
Speaker 1: not necessarily be programming, but it is, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the closest things. It's sort of that in between
Speaker 1: phase where you're actually doing stuff to text to make
Speaker 1: it work differently in a computer, but you're not actually
Speaker 1: programming a lot of it. UM the thing is uh
Speaker 1: RSS and it's cousin ADAM basically use a cousin of
Speaker 1: the UH The HTML specification called XML, which stands for
Speaker 1: Extensible Markup Language UM and the thing. The difference in
Speaker 1: the two is essentially, I mean, they are very closely related,
Speaker 1: but XML lets you create your own tags. Like for example,
Speaker 1: if you had bold or B for bold um in
Speaker 1: HTML and you wanted to make it do something completely different, well,
Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck because the HTML specification is very limited. XML,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, as long as you tell it
Speaker 1: what each thing means. You could say, you can have
Speaker 1: something with lots of names and addresses in it, and
Speaker 1: you can create an address tag and based on the
Speaker 1: difference is you have to tell it what the address
Speaker 1: tag means, you say, oh, well always bold anything in
Speaker 1: the address tag. Okay, well, now I know what that means.
Speaker 1: I can display it that way. Right. So XML is
Speaker 1: just a really flexible form of HTML. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: really um, it's it's difficult to explain in a way
Speaker 1: that uh, that's you know, very succinct. But but the
Speaker 1: other thing you can think of as XML allows you
Speaker 1: to define, uh, the contents of a text file in
Speaker 1: different ways. Now, when when you're using a web browser
Speaker 1: to search for information your computer, like let's say you're searching,
Speaker 1: you're actually using a search engine like Google. Um, Google
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily know what it is you're searching for. It's
Speaker 1: looking for certain keywords um in my depending on the algorithm,
Speaker 1: look at the history of search as you've done, so
Speaker 1: that it can get an idea of oh, when this
Speaker 1: person types in UM, the letters in I C E. Uh,
Speaker 1: this person is actually looking for nice France, not nice, right,
Speaker 1: like but otherwise otherwise the computer doesn't know that. The
Speaker 1: computer can't tell it, it can't understand context. Um. XML
Speaker 1: is one of those ways where you can you can
Speaker 1: create meta data, which is this this sort of attempt
Speaker 1: to kind of teach computers context, but it's all still
Speaker 1: human defined. Essentially, metadata is data about data, right, So
Speaker 1: it's all the characteristics of the information that you're putting
Speaker 1: in that text file. So if you create a reader
Speaker 1: that can read certain kinds of tags that you've defined
Speaker 1: in x mL, so so both the content wherever you're
Speaker 1: putting it up and the reader itself use these same definitions.
Speaker 1: That's what allows you to access that particular kind of information.
Speaker 1: So with RSS, that's what we're talking about. They both
Speaker 1: that both the reader and the information that you've tagged
Speaker 1: have this particular kind of x m L in it
Speaker 1: um if the nice thing is there are a lot
Speaker 1: of different UH web services out there that automate RSS
Speaker 1: if you want to use it, Like there are a
Speaker 1: lot of blogging systems that use some form of r
Speaker 1: SS automatically so that someone can subscribe to your blog
Speaker 1: and every time you update it when that person logs
Speaker 1: in there there RSS reader will look for the most
Speaker 1: recent information from your your blog. Now, Um, putting it
Speaker 1: in like the RSS information into a website that doesn't
Speaker 1: have it automated is a little more complicated. Well, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated, but basically an EXCEL document
Speaker 1: essentially has to have something somewhere else that the computer
Speaker 1: can look to to find out what all these little
Speaker 1: funny tags mean. I mean that the brow the web
Speaker 1: browser is going to know that stuff in between the
Speaker 1: greater than a less stand sign. Um, Basically that's a tag.
Speaker 1: But if if they're not HTML tags, it's gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is unless you tell me
Speaker 1: where to go to get the information about this. So um,
Speaker 1: that's that's the point of RSS or ADAM is that
Speaker 1: these are definitions. Um. Otherwise the page that your RSS
Speaker 1: feed is based on is just an XML document with
Speaker 1: no that doesn't explain how to interpret that information and
Speaker 1: there's no context. So yeah, I mean it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a little simpler than it would be if you were
Speaker 1: putting in another XML because otherwise you'd have to define
Speaker 1: all those elements yourself. You could do it if you
Speaker 1: really want to, but then you have to tell every
Speaker 1: time you create a web page with the essentially the
Speaker 1: RSS information, and you'd have to say, well, you have
Speaker 1: you know, when you open this page, look for this
Speaker 1: document on this server and it will be there. You
Speaker 1: really need to have a good familiarity with HTML and
Speaker 1: probably I would say JavaScript too before you really tackled it.
Speaker 1: And UM, I'm sorry, no, no, ahead, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say that. Um. So, the nice thing is that
Speaker 1: RSS and and ADAM are accepted specifications, so you know,
Speaker 1: they're very common if you use Blogger or WordPress or
Speaker 1: you know a lot of other different tools. Basically, when
Speaker 1: you create a blog, it'll probably it'll ask you if
Speaker 1: you want in RSS feed, and if you do, it
Speaker 1: will go ahead and create that document along with all
Speaker 1: the other documents in your blog, so you really don't
Speaker 1: have to mess with it. And then you just you know,
Speaker 1: people who come to visit your blog, Um, see, if
Speaker 1: you were visiting the tech Stuff blog could click on
Speaker 1: the RSS logo and subscribe to it if you were
Speaker 1: the user. And the same thing is true for things
Speaker 1: like podcasts. Like we said, um, you can find our podcast,
Speaker 1: for example, on iTunes, which has its own sort of
Speaker 1: uh way of checking up for the latest information to
Speaker 1: make sure that you have the latest editions of whatever
Speaker 1: podcasts you've subscribed to. But there are other uh, podcast
Speaker 1: hosting sites out there that you can you can go
Speaker 1: to and just subscribe via RSS and not have to
Speaker 1: go through iTunes if you don't want to. That's true.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a it's basically just an XML file saying, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, this will be updated every so often. Please
Speaker 1: check back. This is where the files will be found
Speaker 1: and um every time you're Uh. This is the neat
Speaker 1: part because the specification is so widespread. If you're using Maya,
Speaker 1: Who or Eye, Google or you know news Gator, or
Speaker 1: you know, even the software browsers, Um, you know the
Speaker 1: a lot of the web browsers now have they built in.
Speaker 1: Some of the mail programs haven't built in now. I
Speaker 1: mean you, RSS is so ubiquitous now that you can
Speaker 1: read RSS feeds and just about anything. You just have
Speaker 1: to know the U r L of the r s
Speaker 1: S document, the XL document for the RSS feed, tell
Speaker 1: it where to look, and uh, basically you're off and running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And there's there are a lot of portal sites out
Speaker 1: there that, um that make this even easier. Like I
Speaker 1: mentioned I Google before, if you have a Google account,
Speaker 1: then you pretty much can you know, just go ahead
Speaker 1: and start creating or eye Google page. If you don't
Speaker 1: have a Google account, well they're free, so you can
Speaker 1: go ahead and make one. You know, they're gonna rule
Speaker 1: us all at one day anyway, so you might as
Speaker 1: well go ahead and get on the train now. Um,
Speaker 1: but I Google you you can create a little windows
Speaker 1: that hold essentially RSS newsreaders for or or well RSS
Speaker 1: feed readers I guess you could say, for pretty much
Speaker 1: anything you can think of, and that has a very
Speaker 1: easy search tool you can use to search for specific
Speaker 1: UM feeds if you want, uh. And you can even
Speaker 1: organize it by category, so you could have an entire
Speaker 1: page just dedicated to entertainment. You could have one dedicated
Speaker 1: to technology. I am currently explaining my own eye Google page.
Speaker 1: Well you can, um, I mean that That's the thing
Speaker 1: is the readers like that and and net vibes and
Speaker 1: page flakes. Basically they break each individual read into its
Speaker 1: own box and so you might see five or six,
Speaker 1: five or ten uh current news stories in there. UM
Speaker 1: Google Reader is a different version where you can incorporate
Speaker 1: all your feeds into one big long list and it
Speaker 1: can go on forever and ever and ever. Or you
Speaker 1: can organize them into folders and read just the ones
Speaker 1: in the folder, or read feed by feed right, which
Speaker 1: for me would be overwhelming. Uh, it's a lot. It
Speaker 1: can be a lot. If you have, you know, and
Speaker 1: you started to a lot of feeds, it's gonna fill up.
Speaker 1: I mean, even if you're checking multiple times a day.
Speaker 1: You got to remember, all of these web pages are
Speaker 1: updating pretty frequently. Actually, that's that's the reason why RSS
Speaker 1: is really so valuable today. Now, back when I started
Speaker 1: using the web, and I'm sure it's the same for
Speaker 1: Poulette here. Um, websites didn't change that often because it
Speaker 1: was a pain in the butt to change a web page. Um.
Speaker 1: So web page is really served as sort of a static,
Speaker 1: you know, information page, if you will. It was something
Speaker 1: that was meant to give you some information, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily going to update very often. So um, and
Speaker 1: then there's this big thing called push that was supposed
Speaker 1: to change ja all that, and it kind of didn't.
Speaker 1: But then basically what it was gonna do was start
Speaker 1: web pages, We're gonna start pushing information out to your computer, um,
Speaker 1: and you hear it every once in a while. It
Speaker 1: sort of resurrects every once in a while and people say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is really going to be pushed, and everyone goes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But RSS is kind of like push even though it's
Speaker 1: it's pull. Your computer is pulling information for all these feeds.
Speaker 1: But uh, the websites are updating regularly. So if your
Speaker 1: computer says, you know, go to ce NN dot com
Speaker 1: and check the RSS feed, Oh, there's four new stories.
Speaker 1: Let's pull them down, and it pulls down just a
Speaker 1: little bit of the story, usually as much as the
Speaker 1: RS And this is the part of the XML. It says,
Speaker 1: you know, pull down this much of the headline and
Speaker 1: half a paragraph of copy, and just that that way
Speaker 1: you are. You have the incentive to click on a
Speaker 1: link to go to the the actual page that has
Speaker 1: that information on it, because you could imagine if you
Speaker 1: allowed an entire page of text to come through a reader,
Speaker 1: there'd be no reason to visit that that host page. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't visit that host page, then
Speaker 1: the hosts right exactly, the host is not going to
Speaker 1: get any eyes on any of the advertisements that they
Speaker 1: use in order to fund the web page. And it is,
Speaker 1: after all, how they're making money off of you coming
Speaker 1: to their website. Right, So, if you were using an
Speaker 1: RSS reader to read everything, and you didn't ever have
Speaker 1: to visit anyone ever again, then pretty soon those sites
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any revenue streams coming in, and then you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have anyone to read anyway, because they'd all be gone. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's uh, that's one of the advantages of forking
Speaker 1: over a few dollars for an RSS reader or finding
Speaker 1: a free one. Um, do you ever use any software RSS?
Speaker 1: I just have. I just use Eye Google. It's just
Speaker 1: my that's my go to I use. I use a
Speaker 1: combination of I, Google and Twitter to stay up to
Speaker 1: date on everything. All right, Well, I've I've used lots
Speaker 1: and lots and lots of different readers, most of them
Speaker 1: for the Macintosh. But uh, NewsGator actually used to be
Speaker 1: a different sort of company, but they sort of specialized
Speaker 1: now into RSS feeds and acquired two of the very
Speaker 1: very best and made them free. Actually both of them
Speaker 1: are shareware and and NewsGator has made them free. One
Speaker 1: of them is feed Demon that's for Windows and you
Speaker 1: can actually sink to your your account, your NewsGator account
Speaker 1: with both of these. So if you have a Windows
Speaker 1: computer on your desktop at work and then use a
Speaker 1: Mac at home, you might use net Newswire for the Mac,
Speaker 1: which is an awesome feed readers, my favorite of all
Speaker 1: of them. Uh, and there are lots of really neat
Speaker 1: ones UM and it will sink up the changes so
Speaker 1: that you don't have to worry about going I've read that,
Speaker 1: I've read that. Man, I've read all these. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what's going on. This is pointless. You don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about that with those with that sink and
Speaker 1: um you know they're they're tons and tons of others.
Speaker 1: UM news Owl is one that's free and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you can even get Thunderbird Mozilla Thunderbird to read your
Speaker 1: RSS feeds and that's good on Mac Windows Analytics. And
Speaker 1: we should point out that not everyone is super happy
Speaker 1: with r s s UM. I can think of one
Speaker 1: organization in particular that's been getting although although the ire
Speaker 1: of this particular organization has been directed not at r
Speaker 1: S S in particular, more towards just the web in general.
Speaker 1: That'd be the Associated Press a P so ap. The
Speaker 1: Their beef is that, UM, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are citing AP reports for their UH in their
Speaker 1: own news articles. So you're seeing this pop up in
Speaker 1: on news sites and especially on blogs. And the problem
Speaker 1: is that if you're using this information, um and and
Speaker 1: there's no real incentive for the reader to go back
Speaker 1: to the original report, AP feels like it's doing all
Speaker 1: the legwork and getting none of the eyeballs. So UH,
Speaker 1: there's there's this big issue now, um AP says, I
Speaker 1: think it's something like, gosh, I can't remember more than
Speaker 1: maybe five sentences or something is UH is too much,
Speaker 1: you can't quote more than that. UM, I'm probably have
Speaker 1: that wrong. If I do, go ahead and write me,
Speaker 1: write me a nice little letter. UM. But because I
Speaker 1: didn't write this down for my notes, I just happened
Speaker 1: to have heard it off off hand. But their their
Speaker 1: point is that they don't want people using their content
Speaker 1: to get eyes when they could be getting those eyes.
Speaker 1: So now, one of the interesting things is both AP
Speaker 1: and the Wall Street Journal have had these kind of
Speaker 1: issues recently. UM and they they sort of are in
Speaker 1: some ways indirectly attacking UH search engines like Google, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure if any of you have done a Google search,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that anyone out there listening to
Speaker 1: this has never done one. If you haven't, here's what
Speaker 1: you can expect. You search for something on Google, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get linked names, and then you'll get a small
Speaker 1: excerpt from the website underneath the link explaining it. So
Speaker 1: in the case of an ap are nicle or perhaps
Speaker 1: even a Wall Street Journal article, you might get the
Speaker 1: the headline of the article, plus some of the body
Speaker 1: of the text. Um. Some people say that that's too much.
Speaker 1: And you know that even that is too much, like
Speaker 1: you're giving away too much. People are just reading the
Speaker 1: summary and there's no need for them to go to
Speaker 1: the website to read more. Um. I think it would
Speaker 1: be a monumentally bad decision two demand that information be removed,
Speaker 1: because can you imagine how much traffic would plummet if
Speaker 1: Google said, you know what, fine, We're removing all of
Speaker 1: your links from our search results. No longer will we
Speaker 1: ever link to any ap content whatsoever, will only link
Speaker 1: to other websites that have that that relate to whatever
Speaker 1: search result that is. Can you imagine how traffic would dip? Well?
Speaker 1: And it might, but well, look at look at this.
Speaker 1: Though the AP makes their money, it makes it's money. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I am an editor. The AP makes its money from
Speaker 1: newspapers that subscribe to its services. And if we are
Speaker 1: all running around, if if one newspaper, I mean you know,
Speaker 1: there are tons and tons of newspapers that are are going,
Speaker 1: um bankrupt, and some of them are going out of business,
Speaker 1: some of them are going web only. Um, if it
Speaker 1: ends up where say the Sacramento B is the last
Speaker 1: one standing and everybody's ripping off the AP headlines, then um,
Speaker 1: you know they nobody's everybody will stop going to the
Speaker 1: Sacramento B. Their advertisers are going to bolt and they're
Speaker 1: gonna go under two, and so will the AP. So
Speaker 1: they're they're defending their you know. My argument there then
Speaker 1: is why let that why let the AP articles remain
Speaker 1: publicly available? Why not password protect them or subscribe or
Speaker 1: protect them, because if you're if they're freely available on
Speaker 1: the web through some website, then you know pretty much
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna grab it anyway. Yeah, that's that's true, and
Speaker 1: I think is probably why you see UH articles on
Speaker 1: some websites where you can only read part of the
Speaker 1: first paragraph and UH In fact, I saw an article
Speaker 1: just the other day in which Wall Street Times owner
Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch is saying that all newspapers should make their
Speaker 1: websites for pay only. I'm sort of paraphrasing and oversimplifying,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean he's saying that if you want
Speaker 1: to stay afloat, you're gonna have to find ways to
Speaker 1: make money, and this is a great way to do it.
Speaker 1: I think the horse is already out of the barn. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Well we'll see. I guess they've gotta they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: try to protect themselves, that's for sure. At any rate, Nick,
Speaker 1: I hope we answered your question about RSS feeds and
Speaker 1: how so. I guess that just brings us around two. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it brings us around too, right, But
Speaker 1: WoT I thought we were already doing. No, I've got
Speaker 1: man listener mail. Now I have a bigger headache. So
Speaker 1: this listener mail comes from Okay, I'm guessing that's the
Speaker 1: correct pronunciation. Should you can write me a saw and
Speaker 1: tell me that I get it wrong. Guys, you forgot
Speaker 1: to mention the April Fools joke that came out a
Speaker 1: year or two ago. The YouTube video on Legend of
Speaker 1: Zelda the movie coming out on April one, two thousand nine.
Speaker 1: This one had a lot of Zelda fanboys drooling myself included,
Speaker 1: um yeah, there were tons and tons of April Fools
Speaker 1: jokes that we couldn't get to and people exactly and
Speaker 1: people send us many many responses and saying, hey, you
Speaker 1: forgot this one. We didn't necessarily forget them, We just
Speaker 1: didn't have enough time to go into it or else
Speaker 1: that would have been an hour long podcast. But that
Speaker 1: one is a pretty good uh joke there. I've also
Speaker 1: seen I mean, now, granted, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: fan made trailers and uh, you know trailers that were
Speaker 1: made by by people who, um, we're doing it a
Speaker 1: sort of a film project that where there's no real movie,
Speaker 1: the trailer is the film. And there are a couple
Speaker 1: of really good ones out there. For example, Grayson is
Speaker 1: probably one of my favorites, which of course is about
Speaker 1: the the man who once was Robin of Batman and
Speaker 1: Robin fame and he has to solve a murder mystery
Speaker 1: and m and it includes pretty much every d C
Speaker 1: character you can think of. In a little flash at
Speaker 1: some point in that preview and not the flash, but
Speaker 1: the but the preview is the previous, very very impressive,
Speaker 1: and at the end of it you're like, oh, when
Speaker 1: is that coming out? And then you realize, oh wait,
Speaker 1: that was the movie. Um, and then of course you
Speaker 1: really did see it all then. I also like gob Stopper,
Speaker 1: which was a funny or die video clip is just
Speaker 1: a joke, but it was a horror movie version of
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, starring Christopher Lloyd as
Speaker 1: the demented Willy Wonka. Uh. It is awesome. UM, So
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, check it out. Don't check
Speaker 1: it out at work. Um. That's all I have to
Speaker 1: say about that, all right, So thanks very much for
Speaker 1: that listener mail. If any of you want to write in,
Speaker 1: you can write us tech stuff at how stuff works
Speaker 1: dot com. We have blogs up. You can find that
Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com. Look over in the
Speaker 1: right hand side you'll see the blogs listed. And keep
Speaker 1: your eyes peeled because on Fridays I'm going to start
Speaker 1: wrapping up our podcast discussions in a blog post, so
Speaker 1: that if you have anything you want to contribute to
Speaker 1: the discussion, you can write into the comments there and
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