Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on or Wrestling Over Live. We are here every
Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: six eastern. Well, you know what today is. It's Tuesday
Speaker 1: here on the show, and you don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Usually we know what that means. It's like ron everything
Speaker 1: like that's like yesterday. I told y'all to buckle up,
Speaker 1: and I hope you buckled up because we've got two
Speaker 1: gigantic stories to talk about here today, the departure of
Speaker 1: Cody and Brandy Rhodes, founders of a W from a
Speaker 1: E W, and the alleged return for nineteen years of
Speaker 1: Stone Cold Steve Boston to have a wrestling match with
Speaker 1: of An Owens at a WrestleMania. When talking about both
Speaker 1: of those stories in the opening segment of the show,
Speaker 1: but I do want to start with best wishes of
Speaker 1: the friends and family of former w W e W
Speaker 1: c W E c W referee Mickey j passed away
Speaker 1: at the age of fifty nine as a result of
Speaker 1: complications from COVID pneumonia. So I mentioned a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. I mean for a lot of people, they
Speaker 1: feel like this whole thing is over, but it's not over.
Speaker 1: And Mickey J passed away as a result of COVID
Speaker 1: and fifty nine years old. As noted, he was trained
Speaker 1: by Steve Kern and Mike Graham referees first match seven
Speaker 1: Florida Championship Wrestling. Competed as an enhancement talent in ninety
Speaker 1: two on Superstars and Wrestling Challenge Remember seeing him as
Speaker 1: an enhancement talent w w E and began work with
Speaker 1: w W ninety two. Did not come to w w
Speaker 1: F after the company was bought in two thousand one,
Speaker 1: although they did bring him over in two thousand five.
Speaker 1: Were a cross SmackDown and e c W over four
Speaker 1: years head official of both SmackDown and e c W
Speaker 1: during his tenure and health issues beginning in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, Pulled off the Road, released in two thousand nine.
Speaker 1: Honored by the Cauliflower Alley Club the Charlie Smith Referees
Speaker 1: Award in twenty eighteen, So all the best of the
Speaker 1: friends and family of Mickey J very sad story and
Speaker 1: we shall return in a moment more Server Live Sometimes
Speaker 1: Love back in the show. Bran Elba is here wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Alive and Mix and REVIVI also wrestling Observer dot com.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes. I made the mistake of going into the
Speaker 1: YouTube chat. God bless you folks on YouTube. But some
Speaker 1: of you in the chat, holy smokes. And do you
Speaker 1: know that if you have a friend who is a geek,
Speaker 1: if I got the cameo for you, my own cameo
Speaker 1: at four w online on cameo, I'll make it worth
Speaker 1: your while as I have for the last straight hours. Now,
Speaker 1: I already had to raise the price, but still a
Speaker 1: value at thirty five dollars. I promise you it's five.
Speaker 1: I promise you it's a value. If it were a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, I promise you it's a value. Because I
Speaker 1: don't go I don't go halfway with these cameos. Brother,
Speaker 1: I do not go halfway. So somebody sent me twenty bucks.
Speaker 1: I will cuss you out properly. Don't worry about what
Speaker 1: Brian will not as well as I will. Now listen,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this, talk about this this cameo, I
Speaker 1: mean this Cody Romes thing right here, not Cameo Roads,
Speaker 1: Cody Roads. All right, listen, this is mostly for you
Speaker 1: blokes on YouTube that don't know. Can I say, asked, dum?
Speaker 1: You don't know? You're asked from a hole in the ground.
Speaker 1: It's not a work, it's not a gimmick. Cody Rhodes
Speaker 1: has left a w and if I had to make
Speaker 1: a prediction, I would expect the un see Cody Rhodes
Speaker 1: in w W E very very soon. Now here's the story.
Speaker 1: If you notice yesterday I didn't have my best show
Speaker 1: yesterday because this Cody Rhodes. I'll give you as much
Speaker 1: of the details as I can. Cody Rhodes his deal
Speaker 1: was up and he was basically a free agent, and
Speaker 1: the story was, well, you know, he was unavailable. He
Speaker 1: actually had a personal issue and could not be in
Speaker 1: an episode of of Dynamite or Rampage or whatever in
Speaker 1: early January, and the story was, well, you know, that's
Speaker 1: why he hasn't resigned yet, but he's gonna show up,
Speaker 1: you know, the next time he's there, he's gonna sign
Speaker 1: this contract. Well, he didn't sign the contract, and they
Speaker 1: have actually had lawyers involved for a week now. I
Speaker 1: think it was last Wednesday the lawyers started to get
Speaker 1: involved and they've been involved ever since. And uh So
Speaker 1: yesterday yesterday, at some point in the morning, I was
Speaker 1: I was given this this uh very I mean, this
Speaker 1: is as vague as it gets. It was like big
Speaker 1: story coming today. And uh I knew that this person
Speaker 1: who had told me this, I knew there was a
Speaker 1: big story coming. I didn't know what it was, and
Speaker 1: uh I was not getting any answers whatsoever. So I
Speaker 1: was like, man, you know, I didn't even get like
Speaker 1: is it a W W E story or is it
Speaker 1: in a w story? So anyway, like for you know,
Speaker 1: hours before Observer Lives started, I'm just trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: like do you have any idea about any of this?
Speaker 1: And actually early in the morning I heard about Steve
Speaker 1: Auston doing WrestleMania, but you know, nothing was official. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I went and I said, is this
Speaker 1: the story? And they were no. So I was like, God,
Speaker 1: what in the world is a story here today? So literally,
Speaker 1: at exactly noon yesterday, I got a message from I
Speaker 1: have no idea who. It was just phone number and
Speaker 1: it just said Cody has gone from a W. I
Speaker 1: was like, what, And I didn't want to talk about
Speaker 1: here on the show because I didn't know who this was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it. So like for the
Speaker 1: whole show, I'm trying to figure out, like, can anyone
Speaker 1: confirm the Cody has gone from a W. Nobody can confirm.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, half half doing the show,
Speaker 1: half trying to figure out what the hell was going on.
Speaker 1: So then in the afternoon I start to, uh, now,
Speaker 1: I started getting answers from people, and as yesterday afternoon,
Speaker 1: he was not gone. Okay, he was gone, but the
Speaker 1: pen had not been put to paper. But it was
Speaker 1: pretty much, you know, he's gone by the end of
Speaker 1: the day, was what I was told. So I was
Speaker 1: just waiting and like, trust me, I was not the
Speaker 1: only person that knew at this point. People in a
Speaker 1: W we're talking about it, People at RAW we're talking
Speaker 1: about it. But the whole point was, you know, there's nothing,
Speaker 1: there's no news yet because it's wrestling, and he very
Speaker 1: easily could have you know, at five o'clock last night
Speaker 1: gott an offer from a W, signed the deal and
Speaker 1: we got no story. So I was just waiting. I
Speaker 1: was waiting. I was waiting. I was waiting, and you know,
Speaker 1: Dave and I mentioned it a little bit last night
Speaker 1: in in rather vague terms because again last night there
Speaker 1: was nothing that was done. And then of course I
Speaker 1: went to bed this morning my phones like this with
Speaker 1: cameos and also the news that Cody Rhodes is is
Speaker 1: gone from a W. So here's the deal. Cody is
Speaker 1: obviously one of the founders, and they had been negotiating
Speaker 1: for a long time as deal was up, and why
Speaker 1: did he leave a W. I don't know why he left,
Speaker 1: But this guy is not an idiot at all. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have been watching much
Speaker 1: w W. I don't know if you have. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people on the chat here they don't.
Speaker 1: You don't watch a lot of of w W. E.
Speaker 1: But the Royal Rumble, we had a big match. It
Speaker 1: was brock Lessner versus Bobby last Remember this match. Everybody
Speaker 1: was so excited for this match. Why because this was
Speaker 1: one of the only dream matches that they have left. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get another one at WrestleMania, likely Steve
Speaker 1: Auston and Kevin Owens and they had to bring Steve
Speaker 1: Aston out of retirement after nineteen years to try to
Speaker 1: sell tickets for WrestleMania, which at this point they've sold
Speaker 1: about forty seven thousand tickets both nights. I said, the
Speaker 1: show is gonna do about fifty five thousand both nights,
Speaker 1: and as it turns out, this saying ain't even near
Speaker 1: fifty five thousand tickets right now. So now they're calling
Speaker 1: stone Cold Steve Boston out of retirement after nineteen years
Speaker 1: to try to get some people into these buildings because
Speaker 1: you got a two night WrestleMania a giant building. That's
Speaker 1: another story. Cody, all I've seen today is people going
Speaker 1: two months, he's gonna be Stardust again. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, bros. The only way this guy's start us
Speaker 1: again is if he wants to be Stardust and he
Speaker 1: strongly pushes to be Stardust and they agree to do
Speaker 1: what he wants. But let me tell you something about this,
Speaker 1: this Cody Rhodes deal. All I heard today a lot
Speaker 1: of people, a lot of people in a w I
Speaker 1: mean shocked that Cody is gone. Um and uh, they
Speaker 1: were like, dude, he had everything here. You know, he
Speaker 1: was an e v P get a job from self
Speaker 1: and his wife they were founders, could have a job
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. You know, he's still
Speaker 1: gonna run the Nightmare Factory, by the way, but you
Speaker 1: know he's always gonna be a push talent a w
Speaker 1: Why would he leave? And you know those stories that
Speaker 1: we'd heard for you know way back about all the
Speaker 1: e vps aren't even talking that sort of thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I can tell you that the e vps were getting
Speaker 1: along great for like the last year. There was no
Speaker 1: issue with like Cody and the Bucks and Kenny. They
Speaker 1: were getting along better I think than they probably ever had.
Speaker 1: It was the impression that I was given. So why
Speaker 1: would he leave? Well, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: have noticed or not, but everybody's going one way. All
Speaker 1: these guys debuting in a w they're all guys that
Speaker 1: were in w w E. It's all one way. Nobody
Speaker 1: is going the other way. This company grossed a billion dollars. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know how much money. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much money Cody's making if he goes to w W E.
Speaker 1: But bro, we're talking I think easy three and a
Speaker 1: half four million a year. They may even be given
Speaker 1: this guy five million dollars a year. Five million dollars
Speaker 1: a year for Cody Roads is a bargain for w
Speaker 1: w E. Finally getting somebody to go from one place
Speaker 1: to the other and not somebody like you know, no
Speaker 1: disrespect to Swull, but you know Swoll's gone. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is an e v P founder of the company
Speaker 1: the w w E can bring over that they couldn't
Speaker 1: quote Raid, and they're gonna pay out the ass for Cody,
Speaker 1: and it will be a bargain to get an e
Speaker 1: v P from You know, you don't do with a
Speaker 1: guy that you're paying like four or five million. You
Speaker 1: don't put him in the stardust costume and bury him
Speaker 1: now down the road, down the road, okay, two, three,
Speaker 1: four years down the road, five years down the road
Speaker 1: or whatever. Do I think that at some point, if
Speaker 1: Vince is still around, he's gonna wanna in some way,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe, But bro, he ain't pay in four
Speaker 1: or five million dollars to bury this guy. This guy
Speaker 1: is gonna be a top star. He's gonna be a
Speaker 1: push star. He's gonna be in big matches with the
Speaker 1: biggest guys. He ain't gonna be losing and if you
Speaker 1: think that, uh, he can't make it, there when we
Speaker 1: can talk about that after the break and getting Mike's
Speaker 1: thoughts as well, back in a moment of her life.
Speaker 1: We're not saying that we'll go to Mike here. So uh,
Speaker 1: a lot of people I just see it. He ain't
Speaker 1: gonna make it. They're gonna bury him. Listen, First off,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's going to w w E,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty confident he's gonna end up in w
Speaker 1: w E. And as far as like you know, we'll
Speaker 1: Cody make it or not? Oh well, look I always
Speaker 1: used the last time, oh yeah, making huge money. I'm
Speaker 1: sure as star dust compared to what he's gonna make.
Speaker 1: Is Cody Rhodes, former a w founder, coming in a
Speaker 1: w w E. But you guys remember when when Cody
Speaker 1: left w w E and he went to work the
Speaker 1: indies and etcetera, etcetera, and all we heard was he
Speaker 1: ain't ever gonna make it, He's never gonna make it. Well,
Speaker 1: he made it. Not only did he make it, but
Speaker 1: he made it big and he made it all the
Speaker 1: way to the very top, creating the first legitimate competition
Speaker 1: for w w E since anyone the only one obviously,
Speaker 1: but he was. He was a key part of it.
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is like, if you
Speaker 1: think that you know, this guy can't make it in
Speaker 1: w w E, if you think that you know, it's
Speaker 1: that this is the exact same thing. It's the exact
Speaker 1: same thing that people said when he left w w E.
Speaker 1: So we'll wait and see. I mean, no one, no
Speaker 1: one predicted Cody going to w w E in the
Speaker 1: prediction contest this year. He didn't make the royal rumbelough.
Speaker 1: I want to throw that in there, but I think
Speaker 1: that he might be making another very big de w
Speaker 1: U show coming up soon. But we shall see. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this, Mike. Could he be the
Speaker 1: Texan that Kevin Owens is talking about? We just talked
Speaker 1: about that earlier, Steve Austin tex still amazes me. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll just completely like you know, maybe he can
Speaker 1: be dusty dust. Remember in gold Dust did that He
Speaker 1: could be dusty dust, forget about stardust. That's what he
Speaker 1: could be. And he could face off against Kevin Owens
Speaker 1: for the pride of the state of Texas, even though
Speaker 1: he's from the state of Georgia. I believe it is
Speaker 1: his entire life. But hey, if this money is enough
Speaker 1: where you are now, I would assume severing a relationship
Speaker 1: with Turner. The Roads to the Top show was an
Speaker 1: a W show, not a TNT show. There is to
Speaker 1: go big show, so you do have that. But he's
Speaker 1: not stupid that way. He obviously has been wanting and
Speaker 1: has always been very aware of his surroundings and trying
Speaker 1: to build something outside of wrestling. So is a move
Speaker 1: to w w E beneficial to him because he'll have
Speaker 1: the ability to have his show on Peacock? Is that
Speaker 1: because that, to me, has got to be playing into this.
Speaker 1: I don't believe the Cody Rose looks at anything as
Speaker 1: just pro wrestling. How does it benefit Cody Rhodes, How
Speaker 1: does it benefit Brandy? How does it benefit generations of
Speaker 1: his family? I honestly thinks he. I think he looks
Speaker 1: at the wrestling business a lot like that as opposed
Speaker 1: to what match can I have at what certain place?
Speaker 1: So if he's going to w w E, okay, if
Speaker 1: he's not, and I guess there's the possibility that he's not,
Speaker 1: then I guess so then what does he become? Is
Speaker 1: this a ring of honor. Does he decide to play
Speaker 1: the field because he feels so confident in his ability
Speaker 1: to do things away from wrestling that he doesn't feel
Speaker 1: the need to be tied down, or he feels that
Speaker 1: it's too much trouble and not worth the headache. People
Speaker 1: have reported in the past, and have I shouldn't say reported,
Speaker 1: certainly have presented in the past on podcasts in different
Speaker 1: situations that Cody has had a rough relationships sometimes and
Speaker 1: has been sandpapery with the rest of a w management.
Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what's going on here, but
Speaker 1: if he's going back to w w E, to me,
Speaker 1: it's got to be somehow beneficial to him as far
Speaker 1: as doing other projects related to but not directly associated
Speaker 1: with wrestling, because I don't see why you would give
Speaker 1: all of that up because you're having a headache with
Speaker 1: a w or you're not really happy with the way
Speaker 1: the fans are treating you. The fans are going to
Speaker 1: treat you the same way no matter where you. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna walk into w w E, face off
Speaker 1: against the MS and Maurice and be cheered by the
Speaker 1: entire fan base. There's going to be people that are
Speaker 1: naturally going to cheer miss and Maurice and boo you. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the end game actually
Speaker 1: is here, but in his mind it's got to be
Speaker 1: beneficial to him. I'll tell you the end game is.
Speaker 1: It's paddily obvious guy. This guy not even Cash, although cash,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a big part of it. But this
Speaker 1: guy here has no shortage of belief in himself. Okay,
Speaker 1: and listen, I would I have not talked to Cody
Speaker 1: about this, but I would bet you dollars donnuts the
Speaker 1: Cody Rose is looking at this situation and going, you
Speaker 1: know what, I can be Maybe not the top guy,
Speaker 1: although I mean maybe Cody thinks he can be the
Speaker 1: top guy, but at the very least like the guy
Speaker 1: right underneath the Roman reigns, and maybe he thinks he
Speaker 1: can be even above Roman reigns. Long time they have anybody,
Speaker 1: they are making any new stars, it's the same stuff
Speaker 1: on top. He's I think thirty six years old, so
Speaker 1: he's significantly younger than all their other main eventors. And
Speaker 1: he probably believes I can walk in there. They're gonna
Speaker 1: give me like five million dollars a year or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a top guy. Can I finish this?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a top guy making the most money
Speaker 1: I've ever made my career in you know, listen, Cody
Speaker 1: was a big star, a huge star in a w
Speaker 1: was he the top star in a W NO, And
Speaker 1: they've got so many big names and they've got so
Speaker 1: many guys coming up that he may well have thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, I can actually be a bigger star
Speaker 1: in w W E than I can ultimately be here
Speaker 1: four more money right now, and I can prove a
Speaker 1: lot of people wrong, and I can I can do this.
Speaker 1: He You don't think this guy's confident could have thought
Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, just look at his career.
Speaker 1: That's the entire story of his career. When he left
Speaker 1: w W E was dreaming big and there isn't one
Speaker 1: fan the thought that he would achieve a level that
Speaker 1: he didn't achieve a significantly higher level than that. Nobody
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna leave and and create essentially helped
Speaker 1: create a second major national Nobody thought that. Not one
Speaker 1: single person thought he was gonna do that. He did it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not saying that he will do that,
Speaker 1: but if you don't think that that's his mindset. Think again, Hey,
Speaker 1: he has played everything right so far from the time
Speaker 1: that he was released and he had you know, the
Speaker 1: picture of his hand there with the pen in the
Speaker 1: list of people he was he was going to face,
Speaker 1: and the little ash tray there and everything, and you
Speaker 1: know his side ventures with those cigars that he's played
Speaker 1: into and obviously latching on. Some people say joining up with.
Speaker 1: Others would say the Young Bucks, what they did with
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor, Kenny Omega, all that sort of stuff
Speaker 1: into New Japan, got to punch open those doors, got
Speaker 1: his wife involved in the business, got her to be
Speaker 1: a regular fixture of things. Then they start that company
Speaker 1: he's into. That gets his side prod. He loves to
Speaker 1: workshop things, loves to workshop, is pro wrestling. Obviously that
Speaker 1: comes from the fact that he wants to be an actor.
Speaker 1: He's tied in with different things. He gets to do
Speaker 1: all of that sort of stuff. And now I guess
Speaker 1: he's going to pay off for all that sort of
Speaker 1: stuff and really cash out from w w E. But again,
Speaker 1: I it is very difficult for me to believe that
Speaker 1: there's not going to be some sort of benefit that
Speaker 1: has got nothing to do for a wrestling and it's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting for me to see what that
Speaker 1: is if he goes to w w E. But with
Speaker 1: that said, I may have made a joke about it
Speaker 1: right there, but that whole thing about coming back after
Speaker 1: all that nonsense with the throne and the sledge hammer
Speaker 1: and all of the parallels and things that people have
Speaker 1: pointed out and drawn lines between those two families and
Speaker 1: those two couples for him to go back to w
Speaker 1: w E. I'll say this, Cody Rhodes, he's got cajones
Speaker 1: and his wife has got him too. He's got an
Speaker 1: incredibly thick skin, and I love his hustle, and I'll
Speaker 1: give him that be He's gonna go in there and
Speaker 1: there's gonna be people. They're booing him. Now, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be people relentlessly on Cody, whether they just be w
Speaker 1: E fans or people that just love to ride. Now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hey, And who knows that Maybe people
Speaker 1: lose their minds for him, but I got I I
Speaker 1: gotta give it to him. He does. If they're going
Speaker 1: back there, he's got a set for sure. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. But you know
Speaker 1: what I do know because I deal with him every day.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of w w E die hards. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of stand up for w w E blokes
Speaker 1: out there, and you know what, somebody walking out of
Speaker 1: the enemy to come and grace them with his presence.
Speaker 1: They may go nuts for this guy. They may see
Speaker 1: him as the greatest folk hero ever that he he
Speaker 1: walked out of a w and came home the ballot
Speaker 1: of Cody Rhodes. Yes, but I got a question for you.
Speaker 1: Don't think that can't happen. Everybody got a question for you. Though,
Speaker 1: there is money to be made as we go into
Speaker 1: rustle Media weekend. Is this I made a joke on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Is this Roads to the show Boat? Is this Rhads
Speaker 1: to the Collective? Is this Rhodes to Rustlemania Weekend? Where
Speaker 1: Cody Rhodes is here, there and everywhere, cashing in on
Speaker 1: the fact that he is Cody Rhodes before he goes
Speaker 1: back to w W A. I mean, he can do
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. Dude, would you mean if you had
Speaker 1: that option, would you how would you look at that?
Speaker 1: Are you afraid of getting injured? Do you want to
Speaker 1: take the big thing just says, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Don't know his physical state is facing Effie and jeff
Speaker 1: j in a three way So anyway, that's a Cody
Speaker 1: Roads story everyone, And uh yeah, I mean falling into
Speaker 1: the waystside. But it does look like, as noted earlier,
Speaker 1: Steve Austin is coming back to wrestle Kevin Owens at
Speaker 1: WrestleMania fifty seven year old stone cold Steve Austin because
Speaker 1: they need to sell tickets for these two nights. Who
Speaker 1: said that might be a problem with two straight knights
Speaker 1: of Wrestlemanian the Giant Building, you stop, I said that,
Speaker 1: I know, ridiculed and mocked. He just redlined everything ridiculed
Speaker 1: and mocked. And nobody ridiculed and mocked you nobody, Just
Speaker 1: you know Dave on the show, Oh, they'll easily. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be an easy eighty thousand both nights, he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we said. Now probably will end up being
Speaker 1: eighty thousand. He can mock me again. But I didn't
Speaker 1: have to bring back stone cold Steve Auston to be
Speaker 1: right on my prediction. Back in a moment I was alive,
Speaker 1: back in the show. Bran Elva is here Wrestling Observer Live,
Speaker 1: Mike Simperviv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Alright, a couple
Speaker 1: of news notes and we'll tell it was on Raw
Speaker 1: tonight or last night to night's n XT. God yeah,
Speaker 1: unsci Fi, I should do great. Smack Down two point
Speaker 1: two three one million viewers, up three point seven percent
Speaker 1: from the February four episode, so that's a good number.
Speaker 1: Rampage nine thousand viewers up one point seven percent, although
Speaker 1: point nineteen and eighteen to forty nine, so they were
Speaker 1: tenth on cable, which is not fantastic, but you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's everyone's suffering going up against the the Olympics and
Speaker 1: the Raw number on Sci Fi. Who could be bad?
Speaker 1: We'll see. Actually, uh, it was good and bad stuff
Speaker 1: on the show. I get us. We had Tomaster chompa
Speaker 1: onto the Raw show last night, setting up tonights Vengeance
Speaker 1: Day show also on sci Fi. The show last we
Speaker 1: did four hundred thousand viewers, So I got a great idea.
Speaker 1: Let's not delay it a week so it's on the
Speaker 1: USA network. Let's air this big show on sci Fi.
Speaker 1: Get four hundred thousand viewers and a point oh seven
Speaker 1: in eighteen forty nine. We've got m s cavers of
Speaker 1: the Creeds, finals of the Dusty Classic, Pete Donne, Tony D'Angelo, Weaponite,
Speaker 1: Steel Cage Match, Toxic Attraction, Rosindi and Persia for the
Speaker 1: women's tag team titles, Carmelo Hayes versus Cameron Grahams for
Speaker 1: the North American title, and bron Breaker versus Santos Escobar
Speaker 1: for the n x T title. That is the lineup
Speaker 1: for the show tonight. When do the Olympics come to
Speaker 1: an end? Because I could see them airing this at
Speaker 1: some point on USA next week before the new episode
Speaker 1: comes on. I can see them doing that and then
Speaker 1: trying to say that hey, between combined viewership, this is
Speaker 1: what this show did. We've also got Dynamite. Tomorrow, we
Speaker 1: have the announcement See Him Punk is going to announce
Speaker 1: when and where are the upcoming Revolution pay per view
Speaker 1: See Him Punk will be facing m JF in their rematch.
Speaker 1: That's tomorrow. Plus we have Sammy Cavara Darby Allen for
Speaker 1: the TNT title, Jericho and Jake Hager versus Santana Ortiz,
Speaker 1: Bryan Danielson versus Lee Moriarty, Thunder Rosa and Mercedes Martinez
Speaker 1: in a no disqualification match. We have Wardlow versus Max
Speaker 1: Castor and then the ce him Punk And as you know,
Speaker 1: I just realized with the Brandy gone, we're never gonna
Speaker 1: get the h Where are we gonna find out where
Speaker 1: that Brandy Rose Dan Lambert angle was gonna go? Who
Speaker 1: will replace Brandy in this storyline? M hm hm no one, Okay,
Speaker 1: who do you think? I have no idea, That's why
Speaker 1: he's to Who would you suggest? Who would you throw
Speaker 1: out there? Bro I don't even know where the damn
Speaker 1: thing was going, so I can't even make any predictions.
Speaker 1: Why are you throwing it to me? Then? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Because if I don't throw it to you every and
Speaker 1: yells at me, I'll let you talk. Thunder Rosa. There
Speaker 1: you go, thunder Rosa, except she's feeding with Britt. There's
Speaker 1: the whole thing. You'd be a whole another you know,
Speaker 1: roadblock in there against her her shot to get to Brett.
Speaker 1: You continue to build that up. Brett continues to face
Speaker 1: other people. There's a zillion women that she could face
Speaker 1: and have a good feud with because of the type
Speaker 1: of personality she's with, So you know, who knows what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen with her and Jamie Hayter and Mercedes Martinez
Speaker 1: right now. Obviously they have a very uneasy relationship between
Speaker 1: the three of them with them going after thunder Rosa,
Speaker 1: So who knows what could happen. Alright, let's quickly talk
Speaker 1: about this raw show. Let's get it over with. Open
Speaker 1: with the total by the Number segment. Everybody in the
Speaker 1: men's chamber came out to talk. Lashly comes out, then
Speaker 1: Rawlins comes out, then Riddle comes out, then Alsin Theory
Speaker 1: comes out, then a j comes out. Then Lashly and
Speaker 1: brock Lesner have these this argument and you'll never guess
Speaker 1: what happens. I'll give you a hint. We know we
Speaker 1: need to push young stars figure it out. Brock Lessner
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed Austin Theory and made him look like the
Speaker 1: biggest geek. Is what happened. We had to moss Chomp
Speaker 1: is showing up to do commentary for street profits versus
Speaker 1: Ziggler and Rude Zigglers showing up an n x T,
Speaker 1: so Chomp is here to cut promos on him, leading
Speaker 1: to Ziggler's team losing after Robert Rude gets pinned with
Speaker 1: the big montez Ford splash off the top just fifty
Speaker 1: fIF fifty. Nobody gets over. We had the Broga party backstage,
Speaker 1: which I mean, hey, listen everybody, I mean I I
Speaker 1: predicted this and it also came true. Our Toga party
Speaker 1: that we had for the WrestleMania nine recap on the
Speaker 1: Brian Vindean Craig Show last week way better than this
Speaker 1: Broga party. They didn't do anything as a total waste
Speaker 1: of time, said maybe Carmel and ne Toga other that
Speaker 1: complete waste of time. And we had the Austin segment
Speaker 1: the build. Kevin Owens is a promo. He doesn't like
Speaker 1: these blokes from Texas. So remember that one time that
Speaker 1: I said, this is so amazing. Actually, when I think
Speaker 1: about it, I once did this thing on Twitter and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a w had moved out of prime time
Speaker 1: on the West Coast and they were they were airing
Speaker 1: it like five o'clock PM or something on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: and so the Dynamite number was down, and we'd explained
Speaker 1: over and over again, Dynamite number is gonna be down
Speaker 1: as long as the show is airing live on the
Speaker 1: West Coast. When it goes back to prime time on
Speaker 1: the West coast in January, the number is gonna go
Speaker 1: up again. So you know, my timeline is just filled
Speaker 1: with you know, dunder heads. You know, acorn Brained had restores.
Speaker 1: So I did a poll and I said, this was
Speaker 1: in This was in like a second week December. Why
Speaker 1: I said, is the Dynamite number down? Is it because
Speaker 1: A the show is now wearing live on the West
Speaker 1: coast or b because the ship is sinking. This was
Speaker 1: a very simple i Q test. Do you remember the results, Mike,
Speaker 1: of this i Q test? You weren't paying attention. The
Speaker 1: results of this i Q test were that thirty nine
Speaker 1: percent of my followers thought that the ship was sinking,
Speaker 1: which actually I was impressed that of my followers were
Speaker 1: smart enough to realize why the Dynamite numbers were down.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was, you know, thirty nine percent were stupid.
Speaker 1: We're smart. Well, Kevin Owens. There was a pole for
Speaker 1: w w B dot com. Remember last week when Kevin
Speaker 1: Owens was sarcastically talking about how much he loved Texas. Well,
Speaker 1: they did a poll on Twitter and they said, do
Speaker 1: you believe that Kevin Owens loves Texas or is he lying? Well,
Speaker 1: the same percentage thirty nine percent of people thought that
Speaker 1: he loved Texas. So it appears that I can safely
Speaker 1: say that a whopping thirty nine percent of wrestling fans
Speaker 1: on Twitter are absolute complete morons. It is now scientifically
Speaker 1: proven the people in this pool thought that Kevin Owens
Speaker 1: actually loved Texas. So Kevin Owens comes out and here
Speaker 1: he goes, I lied, I hate Texas, these idiot Texans,
Speaker 1: and he buries Texas and he makes fun of their
Speaker 1: accident and he laughs. This is the bill after nineteen
Speaker 1: years to the return of Stone Cold Steve Austin, Damian
Speaker 1: Prej Styles. Four minutes. A J went for the springboard.
Speaker 1: Damon a voy it did, it rolled him up and
Speaker 1: pinned him. So after four straight losses, Damien Priests got
Speaker 1: to win again. A J shook his hand, you know,
Speaker 1: Championship match four minutes. I didn't like it. Alexa Bliss has,
Speaker 1: uh get this. Her psychiatrist explains, You've been cured of
Speaker 1: this whatever it was. You remember when she was, you know,
Speaker 1: all creeping and everything like that. He goes, You've been cured,
Speaker 1: and to remain cured, all you have to do is
Speaker 1: carry a doll around for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: This guy saw her coming. So anyway, now apparently she's
Speaker 1: back to the wrestler Alexa Bliss, as long as she
Speaker 1: carries a doll, because they still want to carry dolls.
Speaker 1: She's a grown woman who's now just a wrestler, but
Speaker 1: she has to carry a doll to remain cured. Not
Speaker 1: making this up. Yesterday everyone was asking where's Omas? How
Speaker 1: come Omas isn't around? Vince sour on Omas, Well, he's back.
Speaker 1: Meet Cedric and Shelton in a minute, nothing to it.
Speaker 1: Then we had Reggie and Dana Brook on a on
Speaker 1: a Valentine's Day dinner. Okay, bro, don't even shake your head, Mike.
Speaker 1: This was awesome, So don't don't throw me into like
Speaker 1: something negative here. I would like I saw you shaking
Speaker 1: your head back there. Here's what happened, everybody. So last week,
Speaker 1: Reggie and Dana are doing something or other and he
Speaker 1: gets lost in her eyes. He loves her, but his
Speaker 1: unrequited love. She just wants to be friends. But they
Speaker 1: go out on a date for Valentine's Day. So they're
Speaker 1: on the date and the cure to Zawa to me
Speaker 1: to show up, and there's the big chase scene and
Speaker 1: Reggie helps Dana escape again and and they ditched the
Speaker 1: heels and Dana goes, oh, Reggie, you saved me again,
Speaker 1: and she hugs I mean, she gives him a big kiss.
Speaker 1: He's been led on one too many times, says, hold
Speaker 1: on a second, Dana. I know you say you just
Speaker 1: want to be friends, but I you know, I want
Speaker 1: to take this to the next level. And she goes, oh, Reggie,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to lead you on. I just want
Speaker 1: to be friends. I don't want to take it to
Speaker 1: the next level. Can we just stay friends? And Reggie
Speaker 1: looks here and he goes, you just want to be friends?
Speaker 1: She says yes, and he goes, all right friends. They
Speaker 1: shake hands and he rolls her up and he pens her.
Speaker 1: I died at that payoff. It was so good and
Speaker 1: Reggie was fantastic in this segment. I thought this was
Speaker 1: just They have so many segments that are like breatht
Speaker 1: of creativity. This one I did not see it coming,
Speaker 1: but when you watch it, it was like, well, of
Speaker 1: course he rolled her up and penders she just wants
Speaker 1: to be friend. I loved it. This segment was great.
Speaker 1: Becky Lynch contracts signing I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: This is just dumb. Becky's out there dressed like a
Speaker 1: homeless person. She hasn't changed her clothes, she hasn't slept,
Speaker 1: she hasn't showered, like she's not afraid to run to Rousey.
Speaker 1: But she's so devastated that Leta wants to challenge her
Speaker 1: for the title. It was like a clown show. It
Speaker 1: was like something you'd see in some Shakespeare. It was
Speaker 1: so bad. And anyway, there they're gonna have a match
Speaker 1: Rea Ripley Gauntlet. She they were doing the Gauntlet with women.
Speaker 1: The winner goes in last. Rear Ripley beats Nicky ash
Speaker 1: Nobody cared nothing but Rest holds. Rear Ripley beat Live Morrigan. More,
Speaker 1: Rest holds, then re Ripley faced do drop this match.
Speaker 1: They only got five minutes, but I thought they worked
Speaker 1: together great. I thought this was an excellent match. Reapins
Speaker 1: her with the rip tie. Now the crowds into the match,
Speaker 1: be bunk and then comes out for the final match
Speaker 1: of the Gauntlet. Rhea is in there a total of
Speaker 1: thirty two minutes. She's in the Gauntlet, So of course
Speaker 1: I knew she wasn't winning, because you know, I might
Speaker 1: get her over, but they go back and forth. Real
Speaker 1: good match. Bianca finally pins her. Bianca's going into the
Speaker 1: gauntlet match. I really liked this segment. I thought this
Speaker 1: was good stuff. We had one of those infuriatingly long segments.
Speaker 1: Chet Gable was really good, but he talked for about
Speaker 1: nine hours to get heat. And then they did Alpha
Speaker 1: Academy versus Ray and Dominic, non titled match. The whole
Speaker 1: point of that she had Gables promo was that he's
Speaker 1: not a cheater, he never is cheated in his life.
Speaker 1: And then of course he pins Dominic by pulling the
Speaker 1: tights because he's a hypocrite. I enjoyed this. And then
Speaker 1: finally the main bit of the show, seth Rawlins and
Speaker 1: Randy Jordan, two professional wrestlers having a professional wrestling match.
Speaker 1: If you like professional professional wrestling matches, if I got
Speaker 1: the match for you. They they did their deal, and
Speaker 1: then of course there was outside interference, distraction by Alpha
Speaker 1: Academy and Riddle. Randy Orton is distracted, he gets back
Speaker 1: in the ring, he gets stomped, he gets pinned, and
Speaker 1: so seth Rawlins laughing his way into the elimination Chamberie
Speaker 1: has to win the title and head to WrestleMania. Mike,
Speaker 1: any thoughts on this show very quickly? You know, not
Speaker 1: really kind of covered everything there except for really how
Speaker 1: bad that lead a segment was? It just kills me.
Speaker 1: Why isn't she piste off? Why isn't she piste off
Speaker 1: that Rhonda dismissed her as Rebecca and thought she was
Speaker 1: not only secondary, but I mean just completely somebody to
Speaker 1: dust off on the way to Charlotte. Now that she's back,
Speaker 1: and I mean now now Leeda comes back and she's
Speaker 1: inside her feelings, I mean, this whole thing with her
Speaker 1: was a tad, a layer to her heel character. Whatever
Speaker 1: it is, it's just it's so dumb. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: work and it's silly and it doesn't help her at all.
Speaker 1: The pluses, like you mentioned about seven bit montez Ford,
Speaker 1: there were some good things, but Austin theory was a joke.
Speaker 1: He was a geek. Someone give me a cameo, you know,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned before the break, this awesome theory. What
Speaker 1: a geek? And I know that all of you are
Speaker 1: listening right now, No a geek or two, And boy,
Speaker 1: have I got the cameo for you. If that's the case.
Speaker 1: F four W online or Brian Alvarez just go to
Speaker 1: that that cameo site and or app and for a
Speaker 1: low low price of thirty five dollars. Boy, will I
Speaker 1: let them know what a geek they are. I was
Speaker 1: actually amazed because today, right before we did the show, Um,
Speaker 1: I got my first cameo request that was not a
Speaker 1: burial of someone's friend. It's actually a nice cameo. I
Speaker 1: recorded it ten times. I couldn't get it right. I'm
Speaker 1: so used to bearing people. I couldn't do a nice cameo.
Speaker 1: So for the guy that had the nice cameo request,
Speaker 1: I'll get it done at some point. This one's been hard.
Speaker 1: I never realize how much people don't like their friends.
Speaker 1: That's what I've learned from having cameo. Everyone doesn't like
Speaker 1: their friends. They hate him thirty five dollars worth apparently,
Speaker 1: which is very very good. They hated him ten dollars worth. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well now they've really got to hate him. They're really
Speaker 1: going to be hating them for thirty five But uh,
Speaker 1: what would you say to filthy Tom Lawler as a
Speaker 1: cameo who's going to be here with me tomorrow doing
Speaker 1: this show as you're off to Hawaii. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: i'd i'd say that you better make sure you plug
Speaker 1: his new japan thing because that's the only reason he's
Speaker 1: coming on with you. Oh yeah, the meet and grade,
Speaker 1: the virtual signing, virtual signing tomorrow? Is that what you get?
Speaker 1: I call you a geek for longer I give it
Speaker 1: your money is worth. I was gonna say, you, are
Speaker 1: you giving back change on this? Oh no, no, no, no, no, Bro.
Speaker 1: You don't know how long I can go on calling
Speaker 1: folks the geeks. I can. I can go for hours.
Speaker 1: You got about four dollars and forty eight cents worth
Speaker 1: of content, don't you. I don't want to give away
Speaker 1: all my geeks for free on the air, though, you
Speaker 1: gotta pay for those. Hey, we're out of time. I'll
Speaker 1: see y'all when I'm in Hawaii here in a couple
Speaker 1: of days. Mike's taking over tomorrow. I'll be back on Thursday.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff coming up. Check it out. I'll
Speaker 1: talk to you next time. Wrestling Observer Live. You have
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