WEBVTT - Stone Cold Steve Returns/Brandi and Codi Rhodes Leave AEW 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:08.600 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:15.040 let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.200 here on or Wrestling Over Live. We are here every 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.959 day Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:27.080 six eastern. Well, you know what today is. It's Tuesday 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.560 here on the show, and you don't know what that means. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.560 Usually we know what that means. It's like ron everything 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.360 like that's like yesterday. I told y'all to buckle up, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.600 and I hope you buckled up because we've got two 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.440 gigantic stories to talk about here today, the departure of 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:50.640 Cody and Brandy Rhodes, founders of a W from a 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:56.320 E W, and the alleged return for nineteen years of 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.720 Stone Cold Steve Boston to have a wrestling match with 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.240 of An Owens at a WrestleMania. When talking about both 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.080 of those stories in the opening segment of the show, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.760 but I do want to start with best wishes of 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.600 the friends and family of former w W e W 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:16.000 c W E c W referee Mickey j passed away 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.720 at the age of fifty nine as a result of 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:25.720 complications from COVID pneumonia. So I mentioned a couple of 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.120 days ago. I mean for a lot of people, they 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.720 feel like this whole thing is over, but it's not over. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.120 And Mickey J passed away as a result of COVID 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.960 and fifty nine years old. As noted, he was trained 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:42.440 by Steve Kern and Mike Graham referees first match seven 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.800 Florida Championship Wrestling. Competed as an enhancement talent in ninety 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.720 two on Superstars and Wrestling Challenge Remember seeing him as 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:54.360 an enhancement talent w w E and began work with 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.640 w W ninety two. Did not come to w w 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.640 F after the company was bought in two thousand one, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.480 although they did bring him over in two thousand five. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.240 Were a cross SmackDown and e c W over four 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.560 years head official of both SmackDown and e c W 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.720 during his tenure and health issues beginning in two thousand 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.280 and eight, Pulled off the Road, released in two thousand nine. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.960 Honored by the Cauliflower Alley Club the Charlie Smith Referees 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.760 Award in twenty eighteen, So all the best of the 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.120 friends and family of Mickey J very sad story and 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:37.200 we shall return in a moment more Server Live Sometimes 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:45.119 Love back in the show. Bran Elba is here wrestling 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:49.400 Observer Alive and Mix and REVIVI also wrestling Observer dot com. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.400 Holy smokes. I made the mistake of going into the 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.440 YouTube chat. God bless you folks on YouTube. But some 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.080 of you in the chat, holy smokes. And do you 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.760 know that if you have a friend who is a geek, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.440 if I got the cameo for you, my own cameo 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:13.200 at four w online on cameo, I'll make it worth 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.280 your while as I have for the last straight hours. Now, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.640 I already had to raise the price, but still a 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.120 value at thirty five dollars. I promise you it's five. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.160 I promise you it's a value. If it were a 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.840 hundred dollars, I promise you it's a value. Because I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.280 don't go I don't go halfway with these cameos. Brother, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.880 I do not go halfway. So somebody sent me twenty bucks. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.800 I will cuss you out properly. Don't worry about what 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.440 Brian will not as well as I will. Now listen, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.880 let's talk about this, talk about this this cameo, I 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.520 mean this Cody Romes thing right here, not Cameo Roads, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.200 Cody Roads. All right, listen, this is mostly for you 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:58.080 blokes on YouTube that don't know. Can I say, asked, dum? 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.760 You don't know? You're asked from a hole in the ground. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.720 It's not a work, it's not a gimmick. Cody Rhodes 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.760 has left a w and if I had to make 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.800 a prediction, I would expect the un see Cody Rhodes 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.839 in w W E very very soon. Now here's the story. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.040 If you notice yesterday I didn't have my best show 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.320 yesterday because this Cody Rhodes. I'll give you as much 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.120 of the details as I can. Cody Rhodes his deal 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:33.760 was up and he was basically a free agent, and 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:38.159 the story was, well, you know, he was unavailable. He 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.800 actually had a personal issue and could not be in 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.240 an episode of of Dynamite or Rampage or whatever in 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.840 early January, and the story was, well, you know, that's 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.120 why he hasn't resigned yet, but he's gonna show up, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:50.600 you know, the next time he's there, he's gonna sign 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:55.920 this contract. Well, he didn't sign the contract, and they 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:02.320 have actually had lawyers involved for a week now. I 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.440 think it was last Wednesday the lawyers started to get 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.520 involved and they've been involved ever since. And uh So 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:14.080 yesterday yesterday, at some point in the morning, I was 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.360 I was given this this uh very I mean, this 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.200 is as vague as it gets. It was like big 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:24.440 story coming today. And uh I knew that this person 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.240 who had told me this, I knew there was a 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.200 big story coming. I didn't know what it was, and 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.400 uh I was not getting any answers whatsoever. So I 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.520 was like, man, you know, I didn't even get like 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.400 is it a W W E story or is it 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.200 in a w story? So anyway, like for you know, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.960 hours before Observer Lives started, I'm just trying to figure out, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.960 like do you have any idea about any of this? 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:52.480 And actually early in the morning I heard about Steve 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.800 Auston doing WrestleMania, but you know, nothing was official. And 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.760 then you know, I went and I said, is this 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.240 the story? And they were no. So I was like, God, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.240 what in the world is a story here today? So literally, 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:11.640 at exactly noon yesterday, I got a message from I 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:16.320 have no idea who. It was just phone number and 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.280 it just said Cody has gone from a W. I 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.440 was like, what, And I didn't want to talk about 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.600 here on the show because I didn't know who this was. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.479 I didn't know anything about it. So like for the 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.000 whole show, I'm trying to figure out, like, can anyone 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.000 confirm the Cody has gone from a W. Nobody can confirm. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.200 So I was like, you know, half half doing the show, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:38.680 half trying to figure out what the hell was going on. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.160 So then in the afternoon I start to, uh, now, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.280 I started getting answers from people, and as yesterday afternoon, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:53.600 he was not gone. Okay, he was gone, but the 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.719 pen had not been put to paper. But it was 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.000 pretty much, you know, he's gone by the end of 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.919 the day, was what I was told. So I was 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.760 just waiting and like, trust me, I was not the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.159 only person that knew at this point. People in a 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.960 W we're talking about it, People at RAW we're talking 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.160 about it. But the whole point was, you know, there's nothing, 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.200 there's no news yet because it's wrestling, and he very 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.280 easily could have you know, at five o'clock last night 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.600 gott an offer from a W, signed the deal and 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.960 we got no story. So I was just waiting. I 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.160 was waiting. I was waiting. I was waiting, and you know, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.240 Dave and I mentioned it a little bit last night 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.560 in in rather vague terms because again last night there 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.600 was nothing that was done. And then of course I 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.000 went to bed this morning my phones like this with 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:45.040 cameos and also the news that Cody Rhodes is is 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.080 gone from a W. So here's the deal. Cody is 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.680 obviously one of the founders, and they had been negotiating 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.800 for a long time as deal was up, and why 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.560 did he leave a W. I don't know why he left, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:04.120 But this guy is not an idiot at all. And 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.320 I don't know if you guys have been watching much 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.240 w W. I don't know if you have. I know 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:09.920 a lot of people on the chat here they don't. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.400 You don't watch a lot of of w W. E. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.480 But the Royal Rumble, we had a big match. It 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.080 was brock Lessner versus Bobby last Remember this match. Everybody 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.800 was so excited for this match. Why because this was 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:26.240 one of the only dream matches that they have left. Okay, 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.600 and we're gonna get another one at WrestleMania, likely Steve 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.400 Auston and Kevin Owens and they had to bring Steve 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.960 Aston out of retirement after nineteen years to try to 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.920 sell tickets for WrestleMania, which at this point they've sold 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.640 about forty seven thousand tickets both nights. I said, the 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.000 show is gonna do about fifty five thousand both nights, 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.440 and as it turns out, this saying ain't even near 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.200 fifty five thousand tickets right now. So now they're calling 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.520 stone Cold Steve Boston out of retirement after nineteen years 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.160 to try to get some people into these buildings because 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.320 you got a two night WrestleMania a giant building. That's 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:06.760 another story. Cody, all I've seen today is people going 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:11.240 two months, he's gonna be Stardust again. Let me tell 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:17.040 you something, bros. The only way this guy's start us 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.800 again is if he wants to be Stardust and he 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.360 strongly pushes to be Stardust and they agree to do 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.040 what he wants. But let me tell you something about this, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:32.040 this Cody Rhodes deal. All I heard today a lot 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.120 of people, a lot of people in a w I 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:41.439 mean shocked that Cody is gone. Um and uh, they 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.600 were like, dude, he had everything here. You know, he 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.800 was an e v P get a job from self 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.240 and his wife they were founders, could have a job 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.640 for the rest of his life. You know, he's still 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.640 gonna run the Nightmare Factory, by the way, but you 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.240 know he's always gonna be a push talent a w 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.920 Why would he leave? And you know those stories that 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.680 we'd heard for you know way back about all the 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.800 e vps aren't even talking that sort of thing. Well, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.520 I can tell you that the e vps were getting 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.800 along great for like the last year. There was no 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:15.360 issue with like Cody and the Bucks and Kenny. They 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.720 were getting along better I think than they probably ever had. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.679 It was the impression that I was given. So why 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.439 would he leave? Well, I don't know if you guys 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.160 have noticed or not, but everybody's going one way. All 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.040 these guys debuting in a w they're all guys that 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.640 were in w w E. It's all one way. Nobody 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:43.560 is going the other way. This company grossed a billion dollars. Okay, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.320 do you know how much money. I don't know how 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.560 much money Cody's making if he goes to w W E. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:54.280 But bro, we're talking I think easy three and a 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.200 half four million a year. They may even be given 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:01.080 this guy five million dollars a year. Five million dollars 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:06.520 a year for Cody Roads is a bargain for w 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.960 w E. Finally getting somebody to go from one place 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.560 to the other and not somebody like you know, no 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.920 disrespect to Swull, but you know Swoll's gone. I mean, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:21.760 this is an e v P founder of the company 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.080 the w w E can bring over that they couldn't 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:31.720 quote Raid, and they're gonna pay out the ass for Cody, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.120 and it will be a bargain to get an e 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.080 v P from You know, you don't do with a 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.120 guy that you're paying like four or five million. You 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.400 don't put him in the stardust costume and bury him 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.680 now down the road, down the road, okay, two, three, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.520 four years down the road, five years down the road 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.000 or whatever. Do I think that at some point, if 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.800 Vince is still around, he's gonna wanna in some way, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.600 you know, maybe, But bro, he ain't pay in four 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.080 or five million dollars to bury this guy. This guy 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.320 is gonna be a top star. He's gonna be a 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.920 push star. He's gonna be in big matches with the 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.280 biggest guys. He ain't gonna be losing and if you 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.839 think that, uh, he can't make it, there when we 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.920 can talk about that after the break and getting Mike's 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:32.439 thoughts as well, back in a moment of her life. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.840 We're not saying that we'll go to Mike here. So uh, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.400 a lot of people I just see it. He ain't 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:48.520 gonna make it. They're gonna bury him. Listen, First off, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:49.920 I don't even know if he's going to w w E, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.319 but I'm pretty confident he's gonna end up in w 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.800 w E. And as far as like you know, we'll 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.720 Cody make it or not? Oh well, look I always 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.720 used the last time, oh yeah, making huge money. I'm 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.560 sure as star dust compared to what he's gonna make. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.040 Is Cody Rhodes, former a w founder, coming in a 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:11.080 w w E. But you guys remember when when Cody 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.360 left w w E and he went to work the 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.920 indies and etcetera, etcetera, and all we heard was he 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:22.040 ain't ever gonna make it, He's never gonna make it. Well, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.880 he made it. Not only did he make it, but 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.280 he made it big and he made it all the 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:32.560 way to the very top, creating the first legitimate competition 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.240 for w w E since anyone the only one obviously, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.120 but he was. He was a key part of it. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:39.920 But the fact of the matter is like, if you 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.599 think that you know, this guy can't make it in 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.959 w w E, if you think that you know, it's 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.480 that this is the exact same thing. It's the exact 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.800 same thing that people said when he left w w E. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.360 So we'll wait and see. I mean, no one, no 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.360 one predicted Cody going to w w E in the 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.960 prediction contest this year. He didn't make the royal rumbelough. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.880 I want to throw that in there, but I think 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.240 that he might be making another very big de w 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.360 U show coming up soon. But we shall see. What 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.600 are your thoughts on this, Mike. Could he be the 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.200 Texan that Kevin Owens is talking about? We just talked 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:20.440 about that earlier, Steve Austin tex still amazes me. Well, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.000 maybe he'll just completely like you know, maybe he can 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.000 be dusty dust. Remember in gold Dust did that He 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.720 could be dusty dust, forget about stardust. That's what he 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.240 could be. And he could face off against Kevin Owens 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.120 for the pride of the state of Texas, even though 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.440 he's from the state of Georgia. I believe it is 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:44.480 his entire life. But hey, if this money is enough 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:50.120 where you are now, I would assume severing a relationship 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.480 with Turner. The Roads to the Top show was an 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.960 a W show, not a TNT show. There is to 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:01.480 go big show, so you do have that. But he's 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.920 not stupid that way. He obviously has been wanting and 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:10.480 has always been very aware of his surroundings and trying 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.720 to build something outside of wrestling. So is a move 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.280 to w w E beneficial to him because he'll have 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.720 the ability to have his show on Peacock? Is that 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.040 because that, to me, has got to be playing into this. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.560 I don't believe the Cody Rose looks at anything as 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.080 just pro wrestling. How does it benefit Cody Rhodes, How 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.880 does it benefit Brandy? How does it benefit generations of 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.960 his family? I honestly thinks he. I think he looks 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.680 at the wrestling business a lot like that as opposed 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.840 to what match can I have at what certain place? 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.800 So if he's going to w w E, okay, if 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.880 he's not, and I guess there's the possibility that he's not, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.240 then I guess so then what does he become? Is 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.480 this a ring of honor. Does he decide to play 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.600 the field because he feels so confident in his ability 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.240 to do things away from wrestling that he doesn't feel 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.720 the need to be tied down, or he feels that 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.760 it's too much trouble and not worth the headache. People 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.200 have reported in the past, and have I shouldn't say reported, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.880 certainly have presented in the past on podcasts in different 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.960 situations that Cody has had a rough relationships sometimes and 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.800 has been sandpapery with the rest of a w management. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.720 So I don't know exactly what's going on here, but 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.960 if he's going back to w w E, to me, 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.400 it's got to be somehow beneficial to him as far 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:46.040 as doing other projects related to but not directly associated 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.400 with wrestling, because I don't see why you would give 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:53.000 all of that up because you're having a headache with 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.440 a w or you're not really happy with the way 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.200 the fans are treating you. The fans are going to 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.120 treat you the same way no matter where you. Oh, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.680 you're not gonna walk into w w E, face off 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.919 against the MS and Maurice and be cheered by the 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.239 entire fan base. There's going to be people that are 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.200 naturally going to cheer miss and Maurice and boo you. So, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.320 I mean, I don't know what the end game actually 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.800 is here, but in his mind it's got to be 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.800 beneficial to him. I'll tell you the end game is. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:24.440 It's paddily obvious guy. This guy not even Cash, although cash, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.240 I'm sure it's a big part of it. But this 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:32.919 guy here has no shortage of belief in himself. Okay, 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.399 and listen, I would I have not talked to Cody 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.679 about this, but I would bet you dollars donnuts the 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.679 Cody Rose is looking at this situation and going, you 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:48.879 know what, I can be Maybe not the top guy, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.840 although I mean maybe Cody thinks he can be the 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.400 top guy, but at the very least like the guy 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.200 right underneath the Roman reigns, and maybe he thinks he 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:06.440 can be even above Roman reigns. Long time they have anybody, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.439 they are making any new stars, it's the same stuff 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.080 on top. He's I think thirty six years old, so 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.080 he's significantly younger than all their other main eventors. And 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.080 he probably believes I can walk in there. They're gonna 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.159 give me like five million dollars a year or whatever. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.040 I'm gonna be a top guy. Can I finish this? 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.560 I'm gonna be a top guy making the most money 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.600 I've ever made my career in you know, listen, Cody 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.720 was a big star, a huge star in a w 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.840 was he the top star in a W NO, And 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.159 they've got so many big names and they've got so 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.720 many guys coming up that he may well have thought, 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.320 you know what, I can actually be a bigger star 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.960 in w W E than I can ultimately be here 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.719 four more money right now, and I can prove a 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.360 lot of people wrong, and I can I can do this. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.600 He You don't think this guy's confident could have thought 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.439 something like that. I mean, just look at his career. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.240 That's the entire story of his career. When he left 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.960 w W E was dreaming big and there isn't one 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.840 fan the thought that he would achieve a level that 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.199 he didn't achieve a significantly higher level than that. Nobody 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.240 thought he was gonna leave and and create essentially helped 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.440 create a second major national Nobody thought that. Not one 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.200 single person thought he was gonna do that. He did it. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.840 So I mean, I'm not saying that he will do that, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:35.000 but if you don't think that that's his mindset. Think again, Hey, 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.639 he has played everything right so far from the time 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.679 that he was released and he had you know, the 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.800 picture of his hand there with the pen in the 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.080 list of people he was he was going to face, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.119 and the little ash tray there and everything, and you 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.480 know his side ventures with those cigars that he's played 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:57.360 into and obviously latching on. Some people say joining up with. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.679 Others would say the Young Bucks, what they did with 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.800 Ring of Honor, Kenny Omega, all that sort of stuff 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.720 into New Japan, got to punch open those doors, got 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.080 his wife involved in the business, got her to be 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.760 a regular fixture of things. Then they start that company 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.919 he's into. That gets his side prod. He loves to 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.760 workshop things, loves to workshop, is pro wrestling. Obviously that 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.840 comes from the fact that he wants to be an actor. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.920 He's tied in with different things. He gets to do 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.639 all of that sort of stuff. And now I guess 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.199 he's going to pay off for all that sort of 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.320 stuff and really cash out from w w E. But again, 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.040 I it is very difficult for me to believe that 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.679 there's not going to be some sort of benefit that 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.280 has got nothing to do for a wrestling and it's 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.239 going to be interesting for me to see what that 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.600 is if he goes to w w E. But with 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.320 that said, I may have made a joke about it 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.200 right there, but that whole thing about coming back after 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.600 all that nonsense with the throne and the sledge hammer 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.359 and all of the parallels and things that people have 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.959 pointed out and drawn lines between those two families and 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.920 those two couples for him to go back to w 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:18.640 w E. I'll say this, Cody Rhodes, he's got cajones 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.000 and his wife has got him too. He's got an 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.440 incredibly thick skin, and I love his hustle, and I'll 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.560 give him that be He's gonna go in there and 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.040 there's gonna be people. They're booing him. Now, there's gonna 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:34.080 be people relentlessly on Cody, whether they just be w 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.680 E fans or people that just love to ride. Now, 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.720 it's gonna be hey, And who knows that Maybe people 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:41.760 lose their minds for him, but I got I I 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.480 gotta give it to him. He does. If they're going 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.520 back there, he's got a set for sure. Hey, listen, 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:49.879 I don't know what they're gonna do. But you know 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.720 what I do know because I deal with him every day. 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.680 There's a lot of w w E die hards. There's 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.119 a lot of stand up for w w E blokes 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:02.119 out there, and you know what, somebody walking out of 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:07.040 the enemy to come and grace them with his presence. 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.920 They may go nuts for this guy. They may see 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.639 him as the greatest folk hero ever that he he 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:17.600 walked out of a w and came home the ballot 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.919 of Cody Rhodes. Yes, but I got a question for you. 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.200 Don't think that can't happen. Everybody got a question for you. Though, 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.280 there is money to be made as we go into 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.359 rustle Media weekend. Is this I made a joke on Twitter. 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.120 Is this Roads to the show Boat? Is this Rhads 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.760 to the Collective? Is this Rhodes to Rustlemania Weekend? Where 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.840 Cody Rhodes is here, there and everywhere, cashing in on 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.600 the fact that he is Cody Rhodes before he goes 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.080 back to w W A. I mean, he can do 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.160 whatever he wants. Dude, would you mean if you had 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.000 that option, would you how would you look at that? 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:51.760 Are you afraid of getting injured? Do you want to 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.600 take the big thing just says, what are you talking about? 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.800 Don't know his physical state is facing Effie and jeff 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:02.720 j in a three way So anyway, that's a Cody 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:07.320 Roads story everyone, And uh yeah, I mean falling into 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.439 the waystside. But it does look like, as noted earlier, 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.320 Steve Austin is coming back to wrestle Kevin Owens at 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:17.080 WrestleMania fifty seven year old stone cold Steve Austin because 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.360 they need to sell tickets for these two nights. Who 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.800 said that might be a problem with two straight knights 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.920