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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Siak joins me

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Speaker 1: we talk free agency. As of showtime, the Cardinals have

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Speaker 1: signed fifteen players, including six new faces. A lot of

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Speaker 1: the moves have been centered along the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: which is smart. None of the moves, though, have grabbed

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Speaker 1: the headlines, but that was to be expected. It's Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode six forty one, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. Who to Baker? What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What print? This guy's unbelievable. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. Yes in again,

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Speaker 1: So for Harry Magic. WHOA. Here's Craig Griolou. So, how

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Speaker 1: are you at a serene question? We know you are

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Speaker 1: phenomenal at asking the question, but what about answering questions?

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous as to why you're asking me that, specifically

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Speaker 1: fan questions. I'm still nervous as to why you're asking

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Speaker 1: me this. Craig, all right, this week's mailbag that our

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Speaker 1: colleague Darren Urban does each and every week. There was

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Speaker 1: a question asked that caught my attention and it should

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Speaker 1: catch yours after I relay it here on Cardinals cover two.

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Speaker 1: All right, Quincy Gray asked five different questions rapid fire

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Speaker 1: the third question, so I'm pretty confident that where we

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Speaker 1: rank that it was the third question of five. All right.

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Speaker 1: This was the question to Darren, when are you going

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Speaker 1: on vacation? And are you going to have a guest

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Speaker 1: mailbagger for that week? Those are always fun. Darren's response,

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Speaker 1: potentially we will have a guest mailbagger, maybe Craig Reelu,

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Speaker 1: Danny Serek. We'll have to see. I saw that as

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Speaker 1: he used to ask us if we'd be in exactly.

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Speaker 1: We were just volunteered for something that maybe we're not

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Speaker 1: comfortable or just I don't know. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to take this. Well, you sit on the third floor

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Speaker 1: with nar and you're gonna have to have a word

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Speaker 1: with him. I mean, is this part of my job duty?

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Speaker 1: Is this part of my other description as far as

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Speaker 1: other duties as a sign taking orders from dar and

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Speaker 1: I sure hope not so, I don't know, but if

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Speaker 1: we have to, we'll fill in. Maybe we'll tag team there,

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Speaker 1: maybe a tag team, all right, we could help out

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Speaker 1: because we're like, we're more the asking of the questions, yes,

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Speaker 1: not answering. I will say I feel I did see

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Speaker 1: the mail bag. I just didn't know that's where you

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Speaker 1: were going. I was nervous about what kind of questions

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Speaker 1: you were going to ask me. Remember, I know. I

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Speaker 1: feel good now though. All right, speaking of questions, people

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Speaker 1: ie fans and some media questioning the Cardinals approach to

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Speaker 1: free agency, to which I respond, Danny, why why? Thank you? Craig.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way. But let's hear you first,

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Speaker 1: all right, because I went back and I remember what

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Speaker 1: Monnie Austin Ford said at his introductory press conference. Because

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Speaker 1: while we have not specifically been told what the plan

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Speaker 1: when Monti was introduced, quote, we're trying to build a

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Speaker 1: sustainable program here. This is not a short term fix.

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Speaker 1: Then he added this, we're building this for the extended

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Speaker 1: championship teams as we move forward. That to me tells well,

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Speaker 1: should tell everyone what the plan is this free agency period.

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Speaker 1: There are so many areas that need to be addressed.

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Speaker 1: I understand why fans want the flashy signings. They want

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Speaker 1: to see more of those JJ Watt free agency news.

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Speaker 1: I get that, but the Cardinals have so many needs

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Speaker 1: to me, bring in bringing in those pieces that might

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Speaker 1: Free agency is about plugging holes that you have on

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Speaker 1: this team needed a reset, whether it was GM, head, coach, roster,

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Speaker 1: they wanted a rebuild, if you will. But I'll use

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Speaker 1: it to your point, Danny, when free agency begins, everyone

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Speaker 1: looks for that headline grabbing move, the splash move. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: So while I understand the sentiment again of feeling frustrated

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Speaker 1: is already doing. The Zach Allen and Bayern Murphy moves elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: I kind of quit it, and I'm going to date

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Speaker 1: myself here, Danny. But video games. Back in the day

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Speaker 1: Now you hope that this reset is a quick one.

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Speaker 1: It took the Philadelphi Eagles two years from their four

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Speaker 1: your rest of the NFC Web, the NFC, the entire NFL,

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Speaker 1: away from contending. Now. You hope things surprise you here

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Speaker 1: talking about all these quarterbacks and Anthony Richardson and Will

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Speaker 1: Levis have Pro days coming up. But you have thoughts

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Speaker 1: on pro days how important throwing against air when you're

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Speaker 1: not in full uniform, not wearing any pads, you're not

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Speaker 1: facing the rush. Because to me, pro days can only

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Speaker 1: hurt you. They can't really help you a ton, but

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Speaker 1: they can hurt you a lot. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: I recently had a birthday. Maybe I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: getting old because I'm paying these posts. Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, Danny, that's not old. Thanks. I'm seeing and

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Speaker 1: I get it you have to post things from these

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Speaker 1: big player pro days. But like seeing videos of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: making these great throws, but it's like threw it on

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Speaker 1: a dime. Well yeah, because he had no pass rush,

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Speaker 1: Like there was no defender on his receiver running the

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Speaker 1: route like you would hope. You wouldn't expect anything less

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Speaker 1: in those perfect scenarios. So it's I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me, like I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: a need for both a combine and pro days. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand why players might have a preference, or if

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Speaker 1: you weighed in at one, why you wouldn't weigh in

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Speaker 1: at the other. Or if you did this droll at one,

451
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't do in the other because you don't want

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Speaker 1: to do anything to hurt your stock value. But like,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, it is

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Speaker 1: it really that great that we're seeing, like you obviously

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Speaker 1: part parts. You can see their skill and you can

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Speaker 1: see their speed and their strength, and I understand that

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Speaker 1: for different positions, but I'm kind of at the point

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Speaker 1: where I'm seeing these videos of these quarterbacks making these

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Speaker 1: throws or these wide receivers running these routes right, and

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00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: it's like or even running back, I'm like, well, yeah,

461
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: like it should have looked that good because it's perfect conditions,

462
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Speaker 1: there's nothing getting in their way. It's great programming, and

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Speaker 1: it's great. It's a networking I didn't want want to

464
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Speaker 1: say networking, but these teams that are getting a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk with these players, there's obviously pros to it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It gives you material and it helps

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Speaker 1: field the void until you get to the draft, right,

468
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Speaker 1: another another chance to see and speak with these players.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you brought up offensive line, let's briefly

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Speaker 1: touch on what the Cardinals have done as far as

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Speaker 1: we talked about bringing back Will Hernandez and Kelvin Beacham,

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Speaker 1: but the two new names on the offensive line, Dennis

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Speaker 1: daley and yelled at Froholt again not huge moves even

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Speaker 1: returning Beacham and Hernandez, but trying to plug in where

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Speaker 1: are all these pieces going to play? And I know

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Speaker 1: Dennis Daly's news of his signing got a lot of attention. Look,

477
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Speaker 1: he is going to be a starting tackle. If anything,

478
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: he provides depth at that position. But I could see

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Speaker 1: because of his connection with monti astin Ford, him getting

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Speaker 1: moved inside to either guard position, perhaps left guard. You know,

481
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Speaker 1: Will is going to play on the right side, but

482
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Speaker 1: there is a hole at left guard, and then there

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Speaker 1: is a hole at center. And you've got to figure

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Speaker 1: out what you're doing with Josh Jones, with Kelvin Beacham

485
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Speaker 1: on the right side, or DJ Humphries and those moving parts.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious what the Cardinals decided to do. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of having competition at right tackle

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Speaker 1: with Beacham and Jones, because if Jones doesn't beat Beach

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Speaker 1: him out again, Okay, he's on the last year of

490
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Speaker 1: his rookie contract, maybe maybe this coaching staff says, you

491
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Speaker 1: know what, it'll be time to move on. Josh Jones

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Speaker 1: has said himself he is more comfortable on the left side.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be your starting left tackle, that's

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Speaker 1: Dj Humphries. But maybe he could be your left guard

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Speaker 1: because Justin Pugh is a free agent coming off an

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Speaker 1: ACL injury. Maybe Josh Jones becomes your left card. What

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Speaker 1: are you at center? Is a Lucida Smith possibly ready?

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Speaker 1: Is a Marquis Hayes, possibly ready? I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: But there's just a lot of questions that need answers

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Speaker 1: because right now, while you are getting some depth pieces,

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Speaker 1: you still don't have you're starting oh line. I like

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Speaker 1: the Beecham signing. I like it from his play, his

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Speaker 1: durability and what we saw last year, which we've seen

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Speaker 1: every year. He's been a cardinal of fighting and playing

505
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Speaker 1: through injuries and really wanting to be out there and

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Speaker 1: being a leader through example. And I like the leadership

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. And I know that there was

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Speaker 1: a recent comment on a radio show, which if you

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Speaker 1: only saw the graphic online, you didn't really get to

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Speaker 1: hear the nuance of how he was saying it when

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Speaker 1: it came to Kyler Murray's leadership, because Beecham said that

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Speaker 1: Murray has a talent and he has the potential basically

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Speaker 1: too I'm paraphrasing, to be a good leader. He just

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Speaker 1: kind of needs to grow up in mature and people

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Speaker 1: really ran with that, which was interesting to me because

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Speaker 1: that's all the media has been saying about Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: for years, was that he was young, and he has

518
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Speaker 1: constantly been in successful situations, hasn't really faced a lot

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Speaker 1: of adversity, right, so now it could be a good

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Speaker 1: time for him to step up as a leader. But

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Speaker 1: suddenly when someone else says that, it's oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: where did that come from? That's so new to us,

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Speaker 1: that's wild because it's unnamed, it's actual and if I

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Speaker 1: obviously don't know the answer to this, but I would

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Speaker 1: imagine that something along those lines, that conversation has probably

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Speaker 1: been had in person from how I feel I know

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Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham as a person from my countless experiences and

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Speaker 1: time around him, and I also don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be as you. He's not going to say one thing

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Speaker 1: to your face and then go say another behind door.

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Speaker 1: He is a very stand up guy. He won the

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Speaker 1: good Guy wore because of how often and how honest

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Speaker 1: he was with the media last year, especially with offensive

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Speaker 1: line coach Sean Coogler in that situation when he was

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Speaker 1: let go, and it was Beecham who represented the offensive

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Speaker 1: line room, who spoke to the meeting when nobody else

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Speaker 1: wanted to. So I like having that leadership. I like

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Speaker 1: having a veteran in there who is going to hold

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Speaker 1: not only himself but others accountable, and we hear from JG.

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Speaker 1: High character. I would imagine that is Calvin Beecham embodied

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Speaker 1: two other high character players that the Cardinals have added

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00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: new faces in that locker room, one on defense, one

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Speaker 1: on offense, Kaiser White and Zach Pascal, both with connections

544
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Speaker 1: to JG in Philadelphia. I know you had a chance

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Speaker 1: to sit down with both in the brand new SIKI

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Speaker 1: studio to talk with them. But I also want to

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Speaker 1: direct fans also Daisy Cardinals dot Com and the stories

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Speaker 1: that Darren Urban wrote on both of those players, because

549
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Speaker 1: what you'll notice and you'll sit down with Zach is

550
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Speaker 1: what he was wearing. The T shirt that across the

551
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: front said bet on yourself. And here's someone who's been

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Speaker 1: in the league for five seasons but is two years

553
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: removed from a great season in Indianapolis last year. More

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Speaker 1: special teams. When you're behind an A. J. Brown and

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00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: a DeVante Smith, you're not going to get a lot

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Speaker 1: of the attention. But hearing your interview, reading the story

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Speaker 1: that Darren did on Zach, and then hearing Zach Pascual

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Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage. This is a wide receiver

559
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Speaker 1: by definition, but a football player by trade who goes

560
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: again goes back to do you love the game? And

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Speaker 1: you could hear it in his voice, see it in

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Speaker 1: his face. Zach Pascal loves the game of football. Whatever

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00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: you ask him to do, He's going to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's a great way to describe it. And I feel

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Speaker 1: like what's so interesting is not that he came off

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Speaker 1: as a different person, but I feel like Darren's article,

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Speaker 1: my interview in the studio, and Paul's interview on the

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, which you can find under the podcast

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Speaker 1: tab on asy Cardinals dot com, is that you basically

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Speaker 1: got a different piece and understanding not him as a person,

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Speaker 1: but also Pascal as a player with Darren the bet

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Speaker 1: on Yourself t shirt and how he got here, and

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Speaker 1: my interview, he talked a lot about basically that not

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Speaker 1: just being a wide receiver, but being a football player

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00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: and how that passion and desire to work hard and

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Speaker 1: that shows up in his game and his connection with

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Speaker 1: j G and the opportunities that being an Arizona Cardinal

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Speaker 1: not only playing with a quarterback like Kyler Murray, but

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Speaker 1: the rest of the wide receivers are and what that

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Speaker 1: presents to him. And because of the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years those reasons you mentioned, he has really been His

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Speaker 1: game has really been prevalent in terms of being a

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Speaker 1: blocker and on special teams. But his interview with Paul KLVC,

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00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: he talked about he can still be a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: His receiving ability is still good, and so I feel

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Speaker 1: like when you look at all those different pieces of content,

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00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: it was really great and it encapsulates him as a

588
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: whole through all those different pieces and where he fits

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Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room with or without a DeAndre Hopkins.

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00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: If you lose d hop then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: with Zach, you have that six foot frame six foot two. Specifically,

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00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: you have your Antoine Wesley. If Tweezy doesn't come back,

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Speaker 1: you have that wide receiver plus the ability to play

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Speaker 1: special teams. Longtime Cardinal fans will remember Trent Sherfield wide

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00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: receiver who was a demon on special teams. Because in order,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're not a top two or three

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00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I don't know where Zach would fall

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Speaker 1: on the pecking order behind Hollywood Brown and Rondel Moore

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Speaker 1: and Greg Dortch because once, first of all, you need

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Speaker 1: to be available, and a lot of those wide receivers

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Speaker 1: I have named, not named Greg Dorch haven't been available.

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Speaker 1: And Pascal has not missed a game in the last

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Speaker 1: or he's missed one game over the last five seasons,

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Speaker 1: so he is available. If you are dressed because of

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Speaker 1: your ability on special teams as a position player, then

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00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you are available for that offense

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Speaker 1: or defense in this case wide receiver. To where all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, if you don't play special teams, you're

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00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: not going to be dressed and you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be available. And Hollywood Brown doesn't play special teams. Rondel Moore,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gotten to the point where he is

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Speaker 1: available as a kick returner. But if he has utilized

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Speaker 1: more as an offensive player than those kick return duties,

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: playing return duties kind of get lessened a little bit.

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00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: So there is going to be a role for Zach Pascal,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he hopes that it's more as an

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00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: offensive player than just on special teams. And when you

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Speaker 1: talk about is height at six two, it's not just

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Speaker 1: the height that compares with someone like an Antoine Wesley.

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00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: Pascal has the size he in terms of he is.

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Speaker 1: He's not as slim as Tweezy. How about that he's

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Speaker 1: got some more muscle to him. And I like that

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Speaker 1: you talked about the durability. That's something that stands out

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: to me about newest linebacker Kaisier White as well. Somebody

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00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: who has been durable throughout his career. Somebody who understands

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00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: the scheme and the nuances and the language and the

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00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: expectations of a Nick Rawllis and a Jonathan Gannon, which

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00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: can be helpful as the rest of the team. The

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Speaker 1: rest of the defense learns all of that in their

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00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: new scheme, and Pascal and White are similar. Again, this

631
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Speaker 1: is this is without knowing either one of them, but

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Speaker 1: just going off of what we've read in the small

633
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: interactions that we've had. But they remind me of someone

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00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: already in that Cardinals locker room. M Wait, can I

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00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: have a guess? Can I go ahead give me a hint?

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00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: The two of the like personality wise. No, they're the

637
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: how they approached the game of football, their love of

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00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: the game, and the fact that they're always Can I

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00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: have a hint, like a position room? Well, if I

640
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: gave you the position room, you'd get it, gets it automatically.

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00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you the side of the ball defense. Someone

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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: who is one. Doesn't matter how I'm feeling, I'm going

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Speaker 1: And again goes back to your sit down with Kaiser

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Speaker 1: to their love for the game, their passion for the game,

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Speaker 1: nick rawlis they know exactly that Philadelphia mentality that perhaps

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Speaker 1: just constantly heard from Gannon in terms of what type

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Speaker 1: of player are you looking for? Especially if you don't

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Speaker 1: kind of player you're looking for? And all we've constantly heard,

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Speaker 1: is is not me, but how can I help the team.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what you're talking about now with those

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Speaker 1: Nothing no contract's been signed for more than two years.

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Speaker 1: So it's hope you catch lightning in the bottle guys

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Speaker 1: who are looking for an opportunity maybe two restarts reset

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's the some of the parts that is greater

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Speaker 1: Real quick, I do want to briefly talk about another

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Speaker 1: So right now your backup quarterbacks are cult McCoy and Blow,

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Speaker 1: So is the signing of Blow because that's going to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three season. Is signing Blow more so to

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Speaker 1: give you time so that you have a quarterback to

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Speaker 1: get you through some of these offseason workouts. If Colt

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Speaker 1: and then maybe you draft younger quarterback, or after the

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what is going to come from

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Speaker 1: but maybe there's also more to it. That was just

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Speaker 1: into it that Kyler Murray, while he is going to

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Speaker 1: a proven veteran starter, someone that many people had connected

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Speaker 1: the dots, Jacoby Brissett, because now with the Commanders, he

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Speaker 1: in that quarterback who's thinks they are a starter, but

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Speaker 1: they're only going to be guaranteed one game, two game,

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Speaker 1: four games. And then you also got a factor in

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Speaker 1: coming in to be the starter, but you already have

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Speaker 1: And then you connect the dots new assistant general manager

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Speaker 1: Dave Sears from the Detroit Lions. That's where David Blo

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Speaker 1: with Blao coming back after just two starts to end

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Speaker 1: last season. Yeah, I think we'll learn more, obviously in

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Speaker 1: not That doesn't mean I don't like it. It It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean I don't understand it. I just think there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of possibilities behind it. We have not heard from

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Speaker 1: Monte or JG since you're sit down at the scouting combine.

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Speaker 1: So all the questions that we have going back full

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Speaker 1: circle here questions because that's what we do here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, is ask the questions. Now, we just need

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Speaker 1: someone to answer the questions that we have, and there

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Speaker 1: are only two individuals I can answer those questions, and

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Speaker 1: that would be the general manager and head coach. Oh

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, Darren Urban answering our

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Speaker 1: question of whether or not we're doing the mail bag

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Speaker 1: for him, I have to go upstairs and ask which

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Speaker 1: if we are, give us good questions. You know what

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Speaker 1: ask us questions you want answers to about Darren Bingo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm liking this. Maybe I don't say anything to Darren.

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Speaker 1: We just solicit these questions when he's away and then

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Speaker 1: he has no set Yeah, although we know Darren on vacation,

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Speaker 1: he's still going to have his phone out and he's

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Speaker 1: still going to be checking his laptop and you just

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Speaker 1: can't kill from it. All right, good stuff. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we cleared everything up here as far as specifically the

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Speaker 1: mailbag first and foremost, but our thoughts on what the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have done so far and free agency always a

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Speaker 1: good conversation, appreciated, Danny. And on that note, we will

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals. Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, partner of the Arizona Cardinals has always

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Almahundro for Danny Siak,

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Riol Lou. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two,